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Doom thread, (Last thread >>1721339)
(other retro FPS games also welcome, chances are we played 'em too)

FAQ/Pastebin, still updated semi-frequently
http://pastebin.com/AfQkPem3

======WEBSITE======
http://vrdoom.weebly.com/

===COMMUNITY===
##Our WADs can be found here!##
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS

Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vrDOOM

IRC (The password is in the FAQ.)
irc.zandronum.com
Channel: #vr

===TUTORIALS AND UTILITIES===

Wanna learn...

More about Doom? Check the OFFICIAL Doom Wiki!
http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Entryway

To create maps?
http://www.doombuilder.com/index.php?p=tutorials

To open/Edit WADs/PK3/etc for mod compatibility?
http://slade.mancubus.net/index.php?page=downloads (download 3.1.0)
http://zdoom.org/wiki

How to load multiple WADS and mods at the same time? - ZDL (v3.2.2.2)
http://www.mediafire.com/?eq4zyb6k8c0o6nc

===WADS===
/idgames torrent (as of Nov.25, 2013; 12 GBs of wads, 18 years worth of user-made content!)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13513277/idgames.torrent

Vanilla/Boom related projects can be found here
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/

ZDoom mods/projects can be found here
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19

>> No.1727338

****************************
NEWS
****************************

-Doom 4 Trailer here. It's damn true. http://youtu.be/0C4F1h-HSXU. Further details will be shown at Quakecon.

-Don't forget to (re)watch this year's Summer Games Done Quick, as it featured Doom 64 and an Ultimate Doom race! Ask in the thread for links! The past AGDQ featured Plutonia (Go 2 It included) and a Doom 2 race. To rewatch said games, see this link http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQcxg3SUqlYBoSYrpNJVu58GsoCXMREa1.

-Doom 2: In Name Only represents everyone's wishes of playing the Doom 2 maps in a more literal way. It just got an /idgames link now! Check the thread here. http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1124737

-Metroid Dreadnought IS OUT! GO GET DEM TUUUBES - http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4561&pid=61847#pid61847

-Also The Space Pirate got an update! Check the latest ver. here! https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxbbtKR5bll_anFPaVhUQVZqcnM/edit?usp=sharing And be sure to check this tutorial http://youtu.be/mrFF8LCZw5Y

-Some anons are doing a 200 min. speedmapping challenge; vanilla compatible (Doom 2 format), no custom textures and MUST be done in 200 mins and have an exit; ask in the thread f/details!

-Wanna see John Romero deathmatching in 2014? This happened at GDC http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXkipPv0b4KMKE7z3WwlYYUCDLACNoYfE.

-HDoom has its 5th techdemo! happy now? http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=m12-hdoom-techdemo5.pk3

Mods that also got updated (these links include their respective download links for each mod, by the way)

Hideous Destructor - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=12973
Pirate Doom - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=32674
DoomRL Arsenal - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=37044


ATTENTION! If you know about something news-worthy, PLEASE reply to this post so everyone can see it

>> No.1727354
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1727354

>>1727336
I helped with that image! :D

>> No.1727360

so i got this plasmatic shrapnel thing in doomrla but its not in my inventory or anything so how do i use it?

>> No.1727369

>>1727338
>Youtube: Video not found

Anyways, I tried to upload a .webm but it says "file embedded". Is there a 4chan approved .webm encoder that is portable (no need to install)?

>> No.1727370

>>1727354
looks like a curse of monkey island/doom crossover

>> No.1727382

Where would you look for Doom textures? Is there a respository? I'm looking for bushes.

>> No.1727386

>>1727382
realm667 probably

>> No.1727387

>>1727382
http://realm667.com/index.php/repository/texture-stock-mainmenu-152
guh

>> No.1727394

>>1727382

>I'm looking for bushes.

Go check any 70's Playboy; lame jokes aside, check these sites

>>1727387
http://www.doomworld.com/afterglow/textures.shtml

>> No.1727401

>>1727360
pls help

>> No.1727407

>>1727354
He worked at UAC institute
Just another marine in a green jumpsuit
He did a good job ripping up the place
But his bosses got possessed and they shot him into spaaaace!

>> No.1727408

>>1727382
for bushes, try a blood texture pack, i'm pretty sure blood had a hedgemaze level

>> No.1727413

>>1727359
It should be possible, but I don't know enough of the limitations of ACS and decorate to say exactly how you'd do it.
Obvious answer is to create an actor where the bullet hits the wall, compute the angle to where the shot was fired from, and fire a shot in the proper direction to serve as the bounce. Only question is if you can do that in an elegant manner.

>> No.1727419

>>1727401
oh wait it was just a map guide i get it now

>> No.1727431

>>1727407
We'll send him hordes of demons
The worst we can find (la la la)
He'll have to shoot and kill them all
And we'll monitor his mind

>> No.1727445

>>1727336
YOU'LL PAY FOR THIS SERGEANT DOOMGUY!

>> No.1727460

>>1727431
If you're wondering about the gravity,
Or how godmode eyes can glow (la la la)
Just repeat to yourself 'it's just a game'
I should really just reload...

>> No.1727465

>>1727460
oops. missed a verse.

srry.

>> No.1727491

>>1727445
COBRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.1727496 [SPOILER] 
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>>1727241
I figure they would just enslave/mutate a whole bunch of them for easy cannon fodder and psychological warfare, you'd still have the actual demons doing legwork.

And, I would picture the smart zombies issuing commands and orders to the dumb ones (with varying results).

>>1727491
pic related

>> No.1727506

Oh sweet mercifule crap, Brutal Baphomet is just impossible, I'm only playing on Harsh and this thing is just obliterating me

>> No.1727508

>>1727496
>Revenant unleashing the power of the God Hand.gif

>> No.1727509
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1727509

>>1727460
1000 hours in photoshop

>> No.1727518

>>1727509
What does that make Gypsy? Also has Rifftrax done that movie?

>> No.1727523

Why are DoomRL Shotgun builds so based?

Also fuck Hell's Armory I aint need none of this shit and it doesn't have any health pickups and it keeps giving me tech mods when I want agility and my feet are hot and it stinks in Hell and I want to go home.

>> No.1727530

>>1727518
Gypsy is obviously a Cacodemon (huge mouth, one eye)

>> No.1727536

>>1727530
Naw man, pain elemental. For maximum annoyance

>> No.1727540

>>1727509
how the fuck would the spiderdemon even fit into a theater

>> No.1727541

>>1727518
>>1727530
The mads are Doom 3 monsters like Kelly/Sabaoth and Betruger/Maledict

>> No.1727553

Thanks Mark, your uber Icon gave me a massive Migrane, Then again that might be more the headphones then the stress

>> No.1727572

>>1727369
bumpin

>> No.1727575

> "What are the best Doom wads?"
> "Just read the Cacowards"
> read them
> almost entirely single levels, ZDoom bullshit, or shit I've already played
> entire sections for joke wads and shitty maps, but not vanilla compatible stuff

What are the best vanilla or Boom-compatible megawads, particularly released BEFORE 2004 when the Cacowards started? I know we have some oldfags who fart around here

>> No.1727581

>>1727575
10 years of Doom

stuff on idgames


onemandoom blogspot

>> No.1727597

Doom
Doom II
Master Levels
TNT: Evilution
The Plutonia Experiment
Doom64

Rank them.

>> No.1727609

>>1727509
Should've mirrored the sprites. Being used to see them that way makes it look like they're looking away from the screen.

>> No.1727612
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>>1727354
>>1727509
one million hours in mspaint

Helmet shamelessly (mostly) stolen from the gausswerks speedpaint

>> No.1727615

>>1727597
Doom
Plutonia
Doom 64

Could really take or leave the rest. Doom II gets a mention for introducing new enemies and the SSG.

>> No.1727618

>>1727597
1. Plutonia
2. Doom and Doom II
3. Doom 64
4. TNT
5. Master Levels

>> No.1727619

>>1727615
Doom
Doom 2
Doom 64
TNT
Plutonia
Haven't played master levels actually. Not sure if it's worth it.

>> No.1727629

>>1727609
They are mirrored, except the Doomguy who I forgot. Just pretend he's actually left handed.

>> No.1727634

>>1727609
Also, then it resembles how Crow always looks like he's looking away from the screen, because of the shape of his head.

>> No.1727635

>>1727629
Yeah it's the Doomguy that caught my eye. Isn't Doomguy pretty ambidextrous anyways when looking at first person weapon sprites?

>> No.1727643

>>1727634
I always made it flip back and forth in my head...

>> No.1727653

>>1727115
>The clothing could also be black/red camo style.
"the revenant wears pants"

also the map that screenshot is from is really quite nasty

>> No.1727658

>>1727540
Very carefully.

>> No.1727665

>>1727635
I actually have a theory that all the weapon sprites focus on the left hand because they were using the right hand to take pictures. It's easier (in theory) to hold a camera steady with your dominant hand, and I believe Kevin Cloud (who was the "hand model" for all the Doom hands as well as DN3D's hands) is right handed

>> No.1727708

Shouldnt Doomguy punch with his right hand?
We barely see his right hand, but the left one is clearly gloved. He would need to remove his glove and equip a knuckle every time he wanted to punch something. Would make more sense to just have the knuckle all the time on his trigger hand.

>> No.1727712

>>1727708
Why the hell would you wear brass knuckles on your TRIGGER hand?

>> No.1727717

>>1727712
Maybe if you had lost your way.

>> No.1727724

>>1727712
So you dont pump / hold the weight / aim with the knuckle?
Its a retarded idea either way, but its more confortable on the trigger hand for everything except the pistol, which he uses the left anyway.

>> No.1727725

>>1727597
>Doom
Balanced
Best level design
Excellent pacing
>Doom 2
Cool new content
Maps are cool[except The pit,The chasm and anything between 26-30]
Wolfenstein levels were a cool easter egg back in the day,shame that in Map32 you dont fight Grosse
>Master levels
N/A,i need to play them[link pls}
>TNT:Evilution
Awesome as fuck Music
Cool yet forgetable level design
Again,awesome as fuck music
>Plutonia
AAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAA
>Doom64
The real Doom 3

>> No.1727728

>>1727725
Forgot to rank them

1.Doom
2.Doom64
3.Plutonia
4.Doom 2
5.Evilution
N/A.Master levels

>> No.1727732

>>1727725
>>Master levels
>N/A,i need to play them[link pls}

Check the FAQ in the OP, the Master Levels WADs are in the IWAD download.

>> No.1727740
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1727740

Whatever happened to the guy making an image of the "Icon of Lust" based off the Icon of Sin?

Anybody got the image? Haven't seen it in a while.

>> No.1727751

You know,after playing doom for a damn while i realized[after 20 years] that Doom was excellent in all sides excluding boss fights

Bruiser Brothers are child's play with or without secrets because in E1M5-7 you get rocket launcher+ammo and that's all you need
Circle strafing the Cyberdemon becomes quite boring and he dies fast with the plasma rifle
Spider Mastermind is super easy,it only takes 2 BFG shots
Icon of Sin is easier than Mastermind

Custom Made stuff have better boss fights than the vanilla bosses,im not saying that the bosses are bad because they are still threatening,specially if the author is an enemy placer mastermind[fuck going down,even the normal soldier wreck your ass]

My point here is that Cyberdemon and Spider Mastermind are not boss fights,yet they are big fuckers

>> No.1727757

>>1727751

>not pistol starting every single map

Do you even doom?

>> No.1727760

>>1727751
They're tools. ANY enemy solo is a cakewalk. Give me a pistol, enough ammo, and a bit of cover for fighting a hitscanner/archvile and I'll kill anything. Hell, don't even need the pistol for half the enemies.
Cyberdemons and Spiderminds are powerful tools because they demand attention, and thus serve as massive threat multipliers for the small fry in the area. Just having to keep an eye on a spidermind makes everything else deadlier because you HAVE to take cover. Just having a cyberdemon around means you can't cutback without checking to make sure there's no rocket flying towards where you were. A good boss fight in DOOM is about the boss providing threat while you clear out the small fry to set up the opportunity to focus on the boss.

>> No.1727793

>>1727751
The Cyberdemon "boss" fight is meant to be taken with RL only, so the lost souls can easily get you killed and it takes ages to take him down.

If you want external equips then
>Icon of Sin easier than Mastermind
is blatantly wrong.
It takes literally no skill to beat the mastermind as long as you have some armor and full health. Just run towards it holding ctrl with the BFG and you win. Icon of sin at least takes a kind of accuracy that you are not used to, while random spawns can get out of hand VERY fast.

But you're right, Doom has no proper boss fights. I recommend you go fight D'sparil on "nightmare".

>> No.1727818
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1727818

i generated an endoom lump from the title screen. it might look like the latter. but then again it might look like nothing on earth.

>> No.1727823

>>1727818
ascii what you did there

I'm sorry though, I'm a little stupid. What's an endoom lump?

>> No.1727827

>>1727823
the screen you get when you quit the game in DOS. most modern engines try to emulate it.

>> No.1727828

>>1727793
>holding ctrl
This man is correct, regardless of earlier post content.

I kid but he's still right.

>>1727823
http://doomwiki.org/wiki/ENDOOM

>> No.1727829

>>1727823
It's the screen that's shown after the game is exited in vanilla. Most ports disable it by default.

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>>1727827
>>1727828
>>1727829
Ah. Of course. Neat.

>> No.1727875
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1727875

Enjoy having violent seizures?

Enjoy losing the cornflakes you had for breakfast?

Enjoy feeling like you're having a savage stroke?

Pick all three.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRlK7zlyp2U

>> No.1727885

>>1727875
I think I could play through doom like that... What the hell is the deal here anyway?

>> No.1727894

>>1727818
looks like a zzt title screen

>> No.1727912

>>1727875
But why

>> No.1727917

>>1727885

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?file=combos/seizure.zip

Knock yourself out anon

>> No.1727927

>>1727875
Is this supposed to hurt my eyes pleb?

Go play lamedoom.wad and see some real seizure inducing shit.

>> No.1727928

>>1727751
You should play Cold as Hell. The boss fights aren't *that* hard, but they're entertaining as fucking hell and you probably won't succeed on the first try.

>> No.1727935

>>1727927

Already played that, friend.

>> No.1727978

>>1727612
>>1727509
I love you guys for making these.

>> No.1728007

How do you guys feel about the par times of the official levels?

>> No.1728024

>>1728007
I should feel something?
As soon as I saw par times of freaking :30, I knew they were meant as a reference for speedruns and ignored them.

>> No.1728042

>>1727757
I never understood the logic with this.
Why would the doomguy toss all his shit between maps?

Don't make no sense dawg.

>> No.1728049

>>1728042
>vanilla had no autosave
>dying meant manual load from last save or start over from the current level with only pistol
>levels were built to be beatable with a pistol start for this very reason
>therefore starting with 200 hp/armor and a BFG means you just killed the challenge in several "slow" levels, as they were not built with that kind of firepower in mind

Now go suck a dawg's dick and bring back pics.

>> No.1728053

>>1728049
>Implying anyone doesnt immediately load a save after dying

>> No.1728054

>>1728049
Oh boy here we go again.

The levels were tested from pistol start but by release they were "intended" to be played from one level to another. The goddamn manual says "save often, otherwise if you start the level again with nothing but a pistol" or some variation thereof.

What is intended with pwads is a different story, and varies from wad to wad greatly.

>> No.1728057

>>1727540
Doomguy would have to help lift him past the vent.

>> No.1728059
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1728059

>>1728042
It doesn't make sense. Not with ingame logic.

The deal is, the level designers generally tested their maps all from a pistol start, due to the prospect of dying without having saved. Y'know, them ironman or new players I guess. In hindsight, they've said they feel the game was too easy because of this.

Either way, a general rule among mapmakers is to be possible to beat a given map from a pistol start.

Another reason is because ______________________it's a fun challenge

>> No.1728061

>>1728049
http://www.classicdoom.com/doominfo.htm

>Below is a copy of the README.TXT file that was included with PC shareware Doom version 1.8.

>LOADING AND SAVING YOUR GAME (F2 and F3)
Games can be saved or loaded at any time during the gameplay. To save a game, move the skull cursor to an empty slot (or one you don't mind writing over), and press the Enter key. This option is only available if you are currently in a game. To load a game, simply select the appropriate game from the Load Game menu.

>QUICKSAVE: Pressing the function key F6 allows you to Save a game without leaving the action. The first time QUICKSAVE is used in a given game, the standard Save menu appears. Select a slot. From then on, pressing F6 automatically saves the game to that slot without interrupting the fun of smackin' baddies around. Pressing F9 loads in the last QUICKSAVE game after prompting you.

>TIP: Save your game and save it often. When you die, you're back to the beginning of the level, toting that little pistol again. That ain't good, especially after you progress to some of the tougher levels.

>> No.1728064

>>1727875
jesus fuck my brain started hurting 2 seconds in. Thanks anon, now I have epilepsy

>> No.1728070

>>1727875
There's an animated Doom 64 weapon mod?
May I have a link?

>> No.1728071
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1728071

>>1728054
Yes, they intended for you to have 15 BFG shots and a billion rockets at any given level, yet you can still plow through with just a pistol. That advantage totally wont be overkill in some levels, right?

>>1728061
I said no AUTOsave, not quicksave. Thank you for your post.

>TIP : Always play on "I'm too young to die", that way you will easily progress through the non-existant tougher levels.

>> No.1728073

>>1728071
>your pic
>>dead imp

I don't get it

>> No.1728074

>>1728071
whatever dude

>> No.1728075

>>1728073
IMP lying.

>> No.1728076

>>1728073
Imp lying dead.

Green text.

>> No.1728082

>>1728071
>>TIP : Always play on "I'm too young to die", that way you will easily progress through the non-existant tougher levels.

I can't find this in the document, what section are you quoting?

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1728091

>>1728076
>>1728075
Oh.

God damn I'm retarded

>> No.1728098

>>1728082
I am quoting the part that says tips are exactly what says on the tin : A TIP.
Just because saving regularly helps, it doesnt mean the game expects you to reload a save file from 30s ago every time you die.
Doom would be insanely harder if all levels were balanced expecting a full inventory.

I really dont know what is the issue here.
One anon said pistol start didnt make any sense, I explained why pistol start is a thing.

The fact that you WANT to make your levels easier, to find secret areas that reward you an amazing rocker launcher at map20+ that adds nothing besides +1 rocket to your collection, etc is your problem.
You're also free to play on whatever difficulty you're confortable and quicksave every 3 seconds if thats your thing. You dont have to pistol start every level on Nightmare dude, most dont.

Wont change the fact that every level was balanced to be beatable with no starting gear, therefore blazing through with 600 cells can ruin many challenging encounters.

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1728101

I didn't know Doom had friendly fire and retaliation for enemies.

>> No.1728103

>>1728101
you didn't? That's, like, a huge thing in Doom

>> No.1728117

>>1728064

I warned you mang.

>> No.1728119

>>1728101
Many maps are actually based on using that to win some encounters.

>> No.1728149

>>1727917
How do I play this in chocolate doom?

chocolate-doom.exe -file Seizure2.wad doesn't work

>> No.1728158

>>1728091
But you realize you're retarded, therefore you're less retarded than 99% of people.

Still retarded, but welcome to the 1% brother

>> No.1728160

>>1728149
>seizure2.wad
>trying to play a joke wad in chocolate doom
really? that'd be the case?

>> No.1728169

>>1728160
>>1728149

What gets me going is that a person who has ChocoDoom as his default port for Doom -and knows how the classic loading format goes- is attempting to play a wad made by such person

>Doomguy2000
>ever using vanilla ports for his stuff

With that being said, he's one of the FEW peeps in the community that ACTUALLY got his act together; kind of unrelated, but I just got reminded about how back when a certain person got banned, he was one of the few people who went and told him the fuck out for being a dumb shit. It was unreal

>> No.1728181

>>1728160
I'm new. And I thought the readme would say if you needed a specific port.

>> No.1728193
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1728193

>>1728181

Well, it showed me a secret if anything. It would be much harder if the enemy sprites also also switched.

>> No.1728204

Question:

What was the last time a Doom wad/mod had ITS OWN website, aside from the usual project thread? The TWID projects are the most recent example, aren't they? Any other ones?

>> No.1728209

>>1728204
Most of the really old Megawads (< 2000) had websites (Star Wars, Icarus, Sailor Moon, some Santa Doom, Zombie Doom with zombie sprites etc.).

Nowadays, most developers choose to post their stuff on Zandronum / ZDoom itself. There's maybe a small amount of doomers who have their own websites.

>> No.1728314

So what's the opinion of Brutal Dooms revamped Icon of Sin, I couldn't beat it last night and don't have the opportunity to try again

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1728319

>>1727665
Not implausible.

I know that the Winchester shotgun they used for Duke Nukem 3D was mirrored, seemingly intentionally, so that you could get a good view of the ejection port.

Why they couldn't just have him bring the gun to the other side of the screen for pumping it to show off the ejection port, I don't quite know, but it does actually look good, so I can't really complain.

Some day, I want to get a Winchester 1300 Defender, and kit it out with cheap TacStar parts, and have an engraver put the radiation sign on it, to recreate the actual Duke Nukem shotgun.

>> No.1728325

DRLA/DRPG - Best general purpose weapon for the marine, cheating not an option, grinding, scavenging, luck manipulation is an option.

Discuss.

also what's best all around (tech) and scout and renegade, just for talking points for people who don't play nofunallowedspamarino class

>> No.1728328

>>1728325
>Best general purpose weapon for the marine
Minigun Chaingun Battle Rifle.

>> No.1728330

>>1728328
While I agree and appreciate the input, I was looking more for specific mod pack end game items. Like, what I'm currently using, high power minigun + firestorm, for example.

Also, melee renegade build has some weaknesses, but god is it fun

>> No.1728331

>>1728330
>Specific mod pack end game items
High powered versions of any of those listed.
Or Demolition Minigun.
Oh and a Plasma rifle.

That's about it for Marine, it's very straightforward.

>> No.1728334

>>1728330
>>1728325
High power Minigun/Chaingun/BattleRifle/Plasma Rifle

It's pretty easy to get a good general-purpose weapon for Marine Endgame.

>> No.1728335

>>1728331
Cool, that's what I'd roughly arrived at, just wondering if I was missing something or if one of you veterans had some insight.

>>1728334
Yeah, even without anything fancy, a HP Battlerifle was serving me pretty well in really hard maps.

>> No.1728341

>>1728335
Best marine weapon is high-power minigun with 2 extra damage mods. It just erases everything in the general direction it's fired at.

>> No.1728343

>>1728209
>Santa Doom
link?

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I think that Heretic is better than Hexen... Are there any good gameplay mods of Heretic?

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>>1728042
>>1728054
>>1728061
Whenever this issue comes up I think people get rubbed the wrong way by overly zealous comments that they take as trying to force you to play that way or something. Obviously you can do whatever you want, but the impact on how you experience the level is worth considering.

Pistol starting is what made me appreciate Doom and fall in love with it again. You end up noticing so many more things about the level designer's attention to monster/item placement and ammo/health balance. A simple green armor secret will feel like a well-earned reward that gives you some breathing room instead of a checkbox to tick on your way to 100%.

The simple fact of having to find a shotgun at the beginning of a map makes many level starts more frantic and exciting--E3M3 and E3M4 come to mind. The mapper knows you need that stuff so it becomes bait and another tool for tricky setups instead of keycard and switch ambushes all the time.

So yeah, don't think of it in terms of being "hardcore" or bragging rights or whatever, just don't dismiss the impact on level design and playing.

>> No.1728363

>>1728348
More so, think of it in terms of it making the game fun in a different way.

It makes the game really fun in a totally different manner and helps you appreciate the map design.

>> No.1728446

>>1728059
>Another reason is because it's a fun challenge
The only good answer.

>>1728049
>>1728071
>Sounds very aggressive and condescending that people don't play Pistol Start.

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We didn't bother with this debate.

Mandatory weaponless start on each level.

BAM. Deal with it.
http://www.moddb.com/mods/duke-hard

>> No.1728463

>>1728456
That just reminds me, the guy heading forever delayed so much because he was trying so hard to keep Duke in character, what do you think made him fuck up? Was it his interpritation?

>> No.1728471

>>1728463
I'm sorry but I have no idea what you mean

>> No.1728484

>>1728463
Do you mean Duke Forever?

I think the problem is that :
- Quake came out soon after Duke3D; and technically speaking, it was 'superior' (full 3D with level design making full use of that, 3Dmodels etc)
- Technical side of games matter a lot (TOO MUCH) to devs, publishers, reviewers, and sadly even players; to a point where it often becomes more important that fun itself
- so Broussard kept changing engine to try to make sure the game is as technically impressive as possible when coming out. Except that every time that happened, that meant redoing most things from scartch; so constant delaying

In the end, I liked DNF a lot. Duke was definitly in character for the most part. DNF is to modern FPS what Duke3D is to Doom-like FPS. Most of the flaws of DNF are the typical flaws of modern FPS of that era.

>> No.1728518

>>1727609
>>1727509
i took it like doomguy and company are leaving from that awful movie

>> No.1728520

>>1728070

https://www.mediafire.com/?xp94v69002x9a1j

Some anon was posting about here before, it's still WIP, not sure what happened to it though.

>> No.1728535

>>1728204
Action Doom, Foreverhood, that one invasion wad, and I think mm8bdm

>> No.1728536

>>1728330
I personally use a burst laser rifle with a sniper mod. It mows down small fry with a single click, has perfect precision, and chews up larger targets quickly.

>> No.1728550

>>1728484
But duke 3D was innovative and imaginative while forerver was cookie-cutter and derivative.

>> No.1728560

>>1728484
>Technical side of games matter a lot (TOO MUCH) to devs, publishers, reviewers, and sadly even players
ugh yeah

>> No.1728569

>>1728325
High Power Battle Rifle +PP
>great accuracy
>crazy damage
>no spin up or down

>> No.1728615

Doom comics anyone?

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>>1728615

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>> No.1728636

For the curious, the Doom episode of "Did you know gaming?" came out recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCPJGt3m_v8

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>> No.1728642

How does one get double uzis in DoomRLA?

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>> No.1728648

>>1728642
It's the Storm assembly. BBT.

>> No.1728650

>>1728636
Shit I forgot about Terminal Velocity. Game was the tits.

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>>1728636
Eh, nothing that interesting

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>> No.1728728

>>1728695

To be fair, I'm sure a lot of that stuff was interesting to people who didn't know shit about Doom.

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>>1728728
Maybe, also I'm gonna let these auto dump when I go to work. Anyone know of some good wads that add additional monsters that are the same style as Doom characters? There should be things taken from the doom cover, like an Imp with a machine gun hand, and not just a cyberdemon or something.

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>> No.1728759

>>1728739
icarus map25 the comic

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>>1728736
I don't feel like we should be dumping images on this board... How many are there?

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>> No.1728809

>>1728769
when I first saw this I didn't scroll all the way down to see the last panel and I thought "man it needs a last panel with just a dust cloud being left behind" and then BAM it was already there, just perfect

>> No.1728835

>>1728803

KILL THE HEALER FIRST

>> No.1728838

>>1728835
>Pillar opens up
>4 Archviles pop out

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>>1728642
>double Uzi's
I miss Immoral Combat.
Someone should port the Edge version to GZDoom.

>> No.1728857

>>1728849

Last I heard Someone at ZDF was porting the Edge version of ICD.

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>>1728775
>Plutonia would make you pick up a rocketlauncher to make you auto-switch your weapon, tricking you into firing a rocket in close quarters

>> No.1728868

>>1728098
See, that's fine, but you were implying earlier that pistol starting is the "correct" way to play Doom when there isn't a "correct" way to play it.

Also the pistol start difficulty thing is only valid for the iwads, for pwads it's much different and there are many that are expecting the player to play levels through without restarting each level.

>> No.1728878

>>1728743
>sheild bar looks like a dick

>> No.1728881

>>1728704
I'm actually working on a redesign for the fatties, need to preserve the hit box but make them a bit more intimidating

>> No.1728882

>>1728775
but that's wrong

>> No.1728893

>>1728838
Hey at leats they aren't Diabolists

>> No.1728924

So I'm here right now in Doom 2. Finally getting myself to finish the official doom stuff.

As a noob, I'm enjoying some levels better than Doom's. They seem bigger and push the engine a bit further. Some cool stuff and tricks I was not expecting.

Is Doom64 worth finding my Gamepad?

>> No.1728936

>>1728924
If you like Doom 2 you'd love Doom 64.

>> No.1728941

>>1728924

Doom 64 is good, and is now playable on pc thanks to doom64ex.

Check it out

>> No.1728943

>>1727336

What's the best way to play Doom + Doom II online if I just want to play the default maps? I've got Zandronum but nobody ever just plays the maps that come with the game. It's also hard to find a regular deathmatch. It's mostly wacky zombie game types and stuff

>> No.1728945

>>1728941
How close is Doom64EX compared to the original? What differences are there?

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>>1728775
Thats wrong you fatso n of a bitch.
The rocket launcher has an additional flag that prevents the player from autofiring it when switching weapons.

>> No.1728965

>>1728945

It's a reverse engineering of the entire engine, so it's pretty damn close.

Main difference is high res, keyboard controls and all the good stuff.

>> No.1728969

>>1728760

What's going on here?

>> No.1729001

>>1728969
Straferunning

>> No.1729008

Got my first nanomod in rpg/rla. Playing marine. Do I build a mother in law, a nano shrapnel shotgun, or what?

>> No.1729010

>>1728945
Doom64EX is basically perfect emulation. I'm sure Kaiser or someone could say why it's not 100% accurate in some tiny detail here and there, but being an owner of the N64 cart, I think if you turn on the frame limiter and play with a controller in original res it's identical.

(Not that I suggest that. 60fps + WASD is delicious.)

>> No.1729014

>>1729008
I would go for the Mother in Law.

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Cheesewheel, if you are out there: did you do this map (which we've named "The Overhalls") as well as 200 minutes of hell/tech? if so do you want crediting for it? the mapping style is similar enough to make me wonder.

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catching up with 200 minute webm. Archives (map09) 1/3

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Why was Icon Of Sin's brain exposed?

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>>1729079
this was admittedly a half-arsed take-the-first-exit-you-got-in-the-session recording

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>>1729083
if only it were just a few second shorter it would have split in two!

>> No.1729086

>>1727336
http://www.mediafire.com/download/e6ft1xc7o44zvdl/GoldenSouls_Beta1.6.pk3
new Golden Souls beta!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKk9QbH5mqA

>> No.1729089

>>1728319
>Why they couldn't just have him bring the gun to the other side of the screen for pumping it to show off the ejection port, I don't quite know, but it does actually look good, so I can't really complain.
Duke's weapons were all angled from the right, so moving the sprite entirely across the screen would both be pretty excessive visually and probably look like crap; on top of that, it'd block a huge section of the screen real estate

>> No.1729094

>>1728518
> MST3K
> leaving a movie

Have you not watched the show or

>> No.1729095

>>1729080
so that the player could win the game
It had something to do with it teleporting in and something ended up grabbing a hold of it's head while teleporting in if I remember correctly.

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Frequently Given Advice in 3:24 (1/2)

>> No.1729102

>>1729071
Yeah I did, it was the first map I submitted and I thought it would be my only one so I didn't bother putting a name on it. If it's not any trouble go ahead and credit me, thanks.

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>>1729101
i comically run out of plasma right at the end.

>> No.1729107

>>1729104
>Rockets hitting the stairs instead of the baron
God I hate it when that happens.

>> No.1729109

>>1729080
So it could fire demon cubes out of its brain, obviously.

>> No.1729110

>>1729094

They exit every so often for little skits in between movie portions.
Have YOU watched the show?

>> No.1729113

>>1728943
>What's the best way to play Doom + Doom II online if I just want to play the default maps? I've got Zandronum but nobody ever just plays the maps that come with the game.

Start a server on Best-Ever that does what you want. Be the solution.

If you want to just run through Doom 1 or 2 on co-op or DM, set up a server to do that, and sit in it and wait for someone to show up. Make an announcement here and/or in the Zandro IRC and see if anyone shows up. Generally if you have at least 2-3 people, more people will be inclined to join.

>> No.1729135

>>1729010
I might anyway. Can't find a Doom64 cart that's expensive around here.

Always hoping for a deal

>> No.1729139

>>1729085
Any plans to change the titlescreen demos for the wad? You know, with a "general idea of the game, but with a shitty playthrough so as not to reveal the whole level" style?

>> No.1729142

>>1729086
Gotta say I really dig the overunder. I should get one irl...

>> No.1729151

>>1729086
is this for z& or gzdoom? Gzdoom boots an error.

>> No.1729157

>>1729080
There's something that I can just vaguely remember about some demon being born out of the hole in someones head, possibly from the Bible or some other religious text.

That's all I can remember right now.
It's almost like I have a hole in my head.

>> No.1729161

>>1729157
>>1729080
it's a reference to how Lucifer birthed his Daughter Sin in paradise lost which itself was inspired by Zeus birthing Athena from his head

>> No.1729173

>>1729157
Could be a sly reference to the NiN song "head like a hole" too. Since we know the guy(s?) were fans.

>> No.1729175

Did anyone ever make a hi res hud for zdoom?

>> No.1729183

>>1729175
Not styled after the original as far as I know. There are many cool custom huds though.

>> No.1729190

>>1729086
I fucking love Golden Souls, GIMME!

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>>1729197

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>>1729207

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>>1729207
>>1729210
oh ffs

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>>1729215

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>>1729139
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66496479/DEMO1-3.zip
Playing shitty by intention is hard for me.
>>1729197
I think it could've been faster if you've rushed for SSG right from the beginning.

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>> No.1729240

>>1729151
update gzdoom, that solves most problems i've had

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>>1729113
Friendly word: players online generally know most of the stock maps. If you wanna just have a good time with some buddies instead of having some people come in and make it a speedrunning contest, I suggest consider having a password on the server.

Come around on IRC if you want.

>> No.1729325

>>1728643
but this is wrong, rockets phase through whatever fired them so that they don't generate inside the hitbox

>> No.1729342

>>1729079
>>1729083
>>1729085

Oh man, I hadn't even considered someone would use the secret to go around and fight the monsters in the wall, that's pretty cool. I still think the fight at the start is the best part about that map. Even as the one who made it, it feels tense to get cornered, though I tried to open up the area a little at the same time with the lowering floors. I hope you liked the map; it's neat to see others playing what you put together.

>> No.1729345

>>1729325
I think it's supposed to be that the rocket is hitting a wall, since the wall line is only in that last panel, but the perspective is off.

>> No.1729356

>>1729342
Can someone give me details on this 200 minute thing? I've never done a speedmap before but I'd love to try.

Does Vanilla Compat mean Limits too? I.E. no maxflats errors or other programming mistakes tripped?

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Well this is pretty much done, I feel bad that I have to make the artist wait for three days before I can pay her, but it's going to be money well spent.

>> No.1729373

>>1729356
Mostly the only thing you have to worry about with vanilla compat is visplanes. But yes, so far everyone has stuck to those limits (I even had to redo a room in my first map to make it not crash) so yeah

I think as of right now we have all the maps though? I think there was contention on just one of them but other than that it was cool

>> No.1729414

>>1727978
Oh, go on... :3

>> No.1729486

>>1728314

Crouch at it until it dies

>>1728535
>Action Doom
>MM8BDM

Pretty sure you meant to say Action Doom 2; still, pretty much it was time ago, even if we take into account the TWID projects and Reelism itself

>>1728695
>>1728728

Pretty much covers what they've wrote in their tumblr images so far; and they did the respective research for the stuff they mentioned, so it's okay for me.

>>1728860
>>1728775

House of Pain pulled stuff like that too.

>>1729278

>Friendly word: players online generally know most of the stock maps. If you wanna just have a good time with some buddies instead of having some people come in and make it a speedrunning contest, I suggest consider having a password on the server.
>Come around on IRC if you want.

Why was this deleted? Anyway, turning on "Killing all monsters to exit" solves all problems regarding asshats jumping in MAP07, for example

>> No.1729513 [SPOILER] 
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You don't know shit 'bout agitation, bro.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=770144#p770144

>> No.1729518

>>1728345
Shadowcaster is an heretic mod

And i recommend playing WoC+Hexercise mod with heretic using the Hunter

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>>1729513

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>>1729513

>> No.1729568

>>1729367
What a jolly fellow.

I really hope Blaz has a good day.

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>>1729367
>that visor
Reminds me to this

>> No.1729583

>>1729513
>the Tech-vile has a fat son
>the Tech-vile
HOLY SHIT,POST PICS[because i can't find him]

>> No.1729584

>>1729513
Imagine if this thing released revenants instead of mechanical lost souls.

>> No.1729585

>>1729584
calm down, satan

>> No.1729603

>>1729568

I picture Blaz being overly hammy and treating the whole "Being teleported into his great great etc. grandson's timeline" thing as one big adventure.

>>1729570

That's a cool as fuck design, is that from a game?

>> No.1729616

>>1728325
Storm Nuclear Plasma Pistol is pretty much top tier, I'd say for any class, but especially marine with ammochain which gives it 4 times the mag size.

>> No.1729621

Is it me, or are enemies in DooMRL weapons/armor .wad too easy? I kind of want to replicate the "die a hell of a lot" feel of DRL, and despite using OBLIGE and having thousands of enemies thrown at me, I never get as much damage as I would in DRL.

>> No.1729642

>>1729616
You mean blaster, right? I havent seen a nuclear pistol yet but like 20 rifles/bfgs.

>> No.1729657

>>1729642
No, I do mean nuclear plasma pistol. It might be a bit rare to find although with RPG you can eventually buy one. And with that chests addon that one guy made you can even find modified weapons.

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Found this. Pretty cool. It was part of a design tutorial youtube series, and is a paintover of that one screenshot of e3m8 we've all seen.

>> No.1729684

>>1729621
Up the difficulty. If you're not having issues on FALL OF MAN, then there's something going wrong.

>> No.1729691

>>1729682
not sure I have
care to post it?
cool pic

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>>1729691

This one. He made it as if it were a pitch painting for the look of a hypothetical reboot.

>> No.1729708

>>1729684
That's the problem, the only time I take any actual serious damage is Nightmare!.

>> No.1729714

>>1729708
Then play Nightmare!. Or dip the cursor to the difficulty selection one below the bottom one and play the HIDDEN SUPER DIFFICULTY, and prepare to get your ass handed to you in ten seconds flat.

>> No.1729717

>>1729682
Not sure how I feel about Mastermind 2.0's crotch barrel leaking out things.

Cacodemons are baller though.

>> No.1729721

>>1729708
I had the same experience first time I got stacked with items on a lower difficulty than Nightmare. Until I ran into a crazy shadow heavy revenant with like 70k hp, instakill missiles, and lightning fast movement and fire rate.

>> No.1729725

>>1729703
oh, that one, yes
i thought the repainting was an arachnotron at first because the weapon looks more like a plasma thing than a bullets thing
>>1729717
agreed, cacos look awesome

>> No.1729726

So one of my friends (TheZombieKiller) is gonna port Zandronum's netcode to GZDoom, no guarantees at this point. (quote from him for proof "So far progress is going well, Doom and Heretic related code is mostly complete.")

>> No.1729740

>>1729717
>>1729725

During the video he said the gun came out "kind of phallic" by chance, so he decided to run with it to make it more unsettling and gross. He had this concept of (in a hypothetical remake) going for an extremely atmoshperic and unwelcoming game world, focusing more on dynamic weather/fog/etc conditions than excessive detail.

>>1729726
How old is that guy anyway? His forum profile says like 14, but he's quite ingenious at coding from what I've seen.

>> No.1729747 [DELETED] 

I could be going crazy.. but I think I saw something about a DoomRL test map.. does anyone have it? Where can I get it?

>> No.1729750

>>1729740
I wouldn't mind a post apocalyptic game where you have to survive Hell's terrible monsters.

Could be like STALKER but with Doom.
Or Metro with Doom. Hopefully not so linear though.

I really want STALKER or Metro weapons for Doom

>> No.1729758 [DELETED] 

>>1729740 #
I am indeed only 14, I've been screwing with games, computers and programming since around age 4

>> No.1729760

>>1729750
>post apocalyptic doom
I'd prefer apocalyptic of over post-such. The really hard part no matter the setting will be making levels that neither feel too abstract, linear, or "battlefield-esque". I sure hope the doom 4 team know what they're doing.

Yeah, he specifically mentioned the looks and atmosphere of Metro, especially the surface parts.

>> No.1729773 [DELETED] 

>>1729758
Rule 2, son.

>> No.1729776 [DELETED] 

>>1729758
Well color me impressed. I didn't even start getting my shit together and become good at anything before age 21. If you keep at it you'll go really fucking far with that talent/discipline.

>> No.1729780

>>1729760
Metro's surface parts are some of my favorite parts.

It really puts STALKER to shame in terms of visuals, but unfortunately Metro is linear as hell so that takes away some of the magic.

>> No.1729801 [DELETED] 

>>1729758
I'm impressed man.
But you probably gonna get banned.

>> No.1729836

My neglect to read the 4chan rules properly aside, if anyone wants to test it out once it's ready (provided that it reaches that point), hit me up on ZDoom's private messaging system

>> No.1729837

Our of every map in Doom 1 and 2, what is you guys' favorite?

>> No.1729843

>>1729837

E1M7
MAP11 or MAP29

>> No.1729846

>>1729836
Get in IRC, ya dope

>> No.1729852

>>1729846
From what I've heard of them, I'd like to avoid the ZDoom\Zandronum irc channels, I'll give it a shot though

>> No.1729856

>>1729726
>>1729836

Oh fuck yes. ZDoom's mod support with Zandronum's superior netplay?
Ednerd and Graf are gonna throw a shitfit but it would be so fucking worth it that it's not even funny.

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>>1729856

>Zdoom mod support
>Zandronum netplay
>GMOTA co-op would be a thing without needing to port it over

Jesus christ I had no idea I wanted this to be a thing til just now.

>> No.1729864

>>1729852
Dont worry, we have our own channel. Check the FAQ at the top of the page

>> No.1729867

>>1729846

What's the best IRC client for a beginner?

>> No.1729868

>>1729862
>64-player Hideous Destructor co-op
my diiiiiiiiiiiick

>> No.1729872

>>1729867
Hexchat seems to be a pretty common choice.

>> No.1729873

Try not to get TOO excited guys, it's still heavily WIP and there's no guarantee it'll be finished yet

However, I'd say that if I keep a steady pace, I should have a semi-working build in a week or 2

>> No.1729874

>>1729867
Most irc clients are easy to understand, just make sure you get one that's free (as in free beer) and avoid webclients or clients that require you to pay, unless you actually feel like paying up

>> No.1729876

>>1729872
>>1729874

Thanks, I appreciate it.

>> No.1729880

>>1729873

It's exciting all the same. This is a step in the right direction.

>> No.1729881

>>1729837
E1 maps are the most classic to me, but to avoid having a boring pick: E3M3, Pandemonium. I think this is Sandy's best map and a pretty good attempt at doing hellish visuals in Doom, especially considering his maps aren't known for being pretty. It's clear he wanted to make a surreal, freaky environment with stuff like water on the ceiling, scrolling walls, ceilings open to the sky with floating pillars, and I love that "upstairs" little flesh maze. It's not a very difficult map, but because you have a choice of routes, you have to do some exploration so you don't run out of ammo. Sandy hides goodies in places that are not exactly hidden or hard to get to, but are non-obvious.

>> No.1729917

>>1729837
E1m2 is overall the best designed one, but I really like o of destruction because it's fun, and e2m2 because it's so complex, varied, and exciting.

>> No.1729920

>>1729868
Hey,hey,hey
>64 player Project MSX bro-op on chillax
Just imagine it

>> No.1729928

>>1729873
You're doing God's work.

>> No.1729929

>>1729920
God that would be so laggy, and awesome.
>>1729868
Vs would be cool too.

>> No.1729973

Hey, I'm new to Doom modding and stuff, could you guys recommend some gameplay mods? I've already grabbed Brutal Doom, Cyberrunner, and Space Pirate, they're all pretty fun, but I'd like to see some others. Maybe some more melee emphasis like Space Pirate at least?

>> No.1729979

>>1729973
GMOTA is pretty cool, and the creator posts here fairly regularly (or at least he used to :()

>> No.1729983

>>1729979
He still does, who do you think posted >>1729367

>> No.1729989

>>1729983
a skeleton

>> No.1729991

>>1729983
Hm. I just kind of skimmed through this thread, guess I didn't notice, good to see he's still around

>> No.1730003

>>1729973

Metrood doesn't have any melee emphasis but it's a damn fun mod.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDqYZEERuas

>> No.1730006

>>1729973
TSP is pretty much the only real melee focused mod.

The rest don't even try to do anything with melee.
Hell most don't even a decent melee weapon.

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>>1729979
>>1729983
>>1729991

I'm still here!

and I just might have something for you guys in like. 10 minutes or so.

>>1729989

Don't blow my cover.

>> No.1730017

>>1730006
Well from what I played Brutal DOom had some alright melee focus.

ALbeit it was so fucking brutal that it was really dumb to go in melee ablazing.

>> No.1730020

>>1730006
speaking of which

update when?

I know it gets tiresome for me to keep asking this when the topic pops up but I like to let MK know people are still waiting with baited breath, I'll stop if you guys want me to though

>> No.1730027
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GMOTA V0.9.1 (AKA I'M NOT DEAD GOD DAMN IT)

>changelog

+Added three new subweapons, plus one secret one.
+added music randomizer
+added item crashes, subweapons get special attacks when using the power sword
+completely revamped Blaz's secondary weapon, the ruby wand has been replaced in favor of the powerful arm cannon, complete with a new utility function: A short range ball and chain attack

=Sword has been retooled, now only strikes once but harder
=changed how the grappler behaves, now it's a returning ripper projectile
-nerfed range of standard sword wave
-some subweapons now do less damage
-removed power sword's beam
-removed several of Blaz's spells and retooled the others, now only has three to choose from, all are pretty crunchy now

There might some other shit I've forgotten to mention, but there's a lot to play with now. Tell me what you think

www.best-ever.org/download?file=gmota_v0.9.1.pk3

>> No.1730032

>>1728484
This, I dont know why people hate DNF so much it's WAAAAAAAY more fun than halo and you don't move so slowly and the graphics weren't too bad either. It also was pretty creative at times especially when you became small and had to hide behind pickle jars and stuff.

>> No.1730039

>>1730027
Sweet, I'll load this up in a few minutes

>> No.1730041

>>1730032
It's a game that tries to be modern on the Unreal 2 engine of all fucking things, repeatedly rips on modern titles at the same time while USING several features from modern titles (Two weapons, small pool of rapidly regenerating health, melee is just a button, etc), and is made by probably the fourth or fifth biggest joke in the video game industry: GearBox.

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>>1730027
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
IT'S HAPPENING

>> No.1730062

>>1730032
>it's WAAAAAAAY more fun than halo and you don't move so slowly

Talk about damning with faint praise.

>> No.1730068

>>1730062
i know its cool to hate halo but god how can you even pretend that dnf is better

>> No.1730070

>>1730027
Thanks a lot asshole now my dick put a hole in my roof.

>> No.1730072

>>1729726
holy shit i got my wish about playing multiplayer doom rla last thread

>> No.1730083

>>1730072
>multiplayer doom rla
we're gonna need more slaughterwads, quick

>> No.1730085

>>1730027
This is so good it hurts holy shit.

Needs a button to lock subweapon though. Losing the shield while bashing everything in Nightmare pretty much dooms you instantly. No pun intended.

>> No.1730086

>>1730068
Because it's duke, also the lore isn't total bullshit.

>> No.1730089

>>1730068
depends of which Halo we are talking about. DNF is superior to Reach and ODST, but not to CE and 2.

>> No.1730091

>>1730086
>a game's mc and lore make it good

>> No.1730094

>>1730085

I was thinking about that too, some kinda way to lock out picking up other subweapons/spells. I'll look into it for future versions.

>> No.1730095

>>1730027
>Single slash on sword
>Power sword has a large ass wave
>That gauntlet animation when powering up
UNF

>> No.1730101

>>1730089
no its not. those arent particularly good games but dnf is a complete mess.

>> No.1730107

>>1730089
Are you planning on updating ketchup? Because the fact the the Caco's blood isn't blue is irritanting. Someone tried to fix that but the blood didn't attach to the ceiling and it looked like shit.

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>>1730027

Also you guys may want to redownload this, I dun goofed with the gauntlet's code and when you select the powered arm cannon, it uses the spike staff's sprite while raising

>> No.1730120

>>1730101
At least DNF can make you laugh, and the mothership level can make some people shocked, and the soundtrack is amazing, while the only two emotions that ODST and Reach can cause on player are boredom and sleepiness.

>>1730107
Yes. I also want to update ketchup with the new crisper blood splats, and the new gibs, that removes Blood's stuff completely.

>> No.1730123

>>1730117
I was just about to write about that bug.

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>>1729837
I really fucking dig E2M2, it's just fucking great.
The atmosphere is excellent.
E2M4 is also good at places.
Oh, and E2M7, that shit is real fun.

>> No.1730126

>>1730120
and when you weren't laughing you were crying that this piece of shit was in development for like 15 years

>> No.1730128

>>1730027
>>1730095
>Ys 3 Illburn's Ruins music starts playing
Oh shit son

>> No.1730132

>>1730128

The power of ROCK is strong with Ys, I'd be fucking crazy to not use tracks from the series.

Also how's the arm cannon fellas? Specifically the unpowered form's primary fire?

>> No.1730142

>>1730132
I like that it has a bit of an autofire before charging.

Got to get used to not tapping it though.
Charge shots aren't supposed to give red bar, right?

>> No.1730143

>>1730132
Eh, the burst feels like it goes on for too long.

>> No.1730148

>>1730142

Right. You trade red mana generating shots for something with a little more oomph. Fully charged shots also have splash damage

>>1730143

I could always make the initial burst faster.

>> No.1730156

>>1730148
Also a strange coincidence but the music randomizer has been 5 for 5 on music matching the levels of Epic 2.

>> No.1730159

>>1730027
you might already know about this, but when i switch back to the gauntlet in its super-mode, it still has the super-wands graphic for a second

>> No.1730161

Earthshaker Bomb Shot is fucking amazing.

>> No.1730165

>>1730159

Yeah, redownload the mod, I dun goofed, should be fixed now.

>> No.1730167

>>1730020
Honestly I'm so busy this summer I have no clue when. Movies and real life and all that fun stuff. But hey! It'll be sooner than last time! Scroton is doing some stuff right now, maybe right at this moment!
Never stop.

>> No.1730186

anyone got any good metrood webms?

>> No.1730208

>>1730148
Just removing one or two projectiles from the burst would be perfect in my opnion.

I also feel the standard sword wave is way too weak now. It can take up to 6 waves to kill an imp, might as well not exist if its going to eat 1/3 of your stamina bar for this.

>> No.1730221

>>1730208

the wave's more focused on making monsters flinch now as opposed a killing tool. Though I'll consider fucking with it further.

I'll shorten the number of shots needed to start the charge up right now though

>> No.1730232

>>1730208
I found sword waves to be useful in flinching and slashing.

It is also good for approaching with a sword.

>> No.1730262

>>1728314
>It will spawn an arch-vile at health thresholds and add one more different attack to its arsenal everytime.
>for scream attack and direct hit attacks hide behind the short pillars at sides. Right one requires you to crouch behind it.
>Aiming at head helps, use plasma and rockets to hit its head and you'll double your damage output.
>if you're really courageous, grab the megasphere at the right side on top of pillars by the end of fight, again if there's an Arch-Vile it will rekt you out from top.
>when you decide you have to deal more damage jump over the altar and drop at the water, then spam BFG with all your might
>for taking cover for every kind of attack (lightning, one hit KO meteor, flame spread and misille rain.) you can use the small gate under the altar. But you have to kill Arch-Vile before doing that.
You have to fend the small gate under the altar with
>Super Shotgun and Plasmagun if you need nice firepower
>quick kicks (berserker power-up'd, jump kicks have higher damage gets rid of pests quicker, bind a key if you didn't from controls),
>Fatality mode fists (berserker power-up needed again, execution imps and demons for extra hp)
>Minigun (for small cruelty bonuses when you overkill, because of a bug try to stand on a solid surface when trying to gain cruelty bonus)

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>>1729367
Lord Blaz is the baddest ass

>> No.1730274

>>1730027
That arm-cannon is a thing of beauty, also really diggin' the punch and torch subweapons.

>> No.1730279

>>1730269

Holy shit.

>>1730274

Thank you, those are my favorite subweapons too. My only personal gripe with the arm cannon right now is that slightly awkward translation from firing pellets to charging. I might change the charging animation and keep his arm lifted

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Yet more proof for me that doom metal fits in Doom. People are going to have a hard time showing me otherwise this time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9pzkzzxzwY
https://www.dropbox.com/s/obf6ydhh9oi4jv9/my_dying_bride__a_doomed_lover.mid

>> No.1730290

>>1730027
Powered throwing axe is OP as fuck.
Costs almost no mana and 2 of them were more than enough to kill a mastermind.

>> No.1730295

>>1730290

Yeah, I'll probably adjust damage and axe lifespan

>> No.1730306

>>1730279
I dunno, I found the cannon's animation to all be pretty good, also the torch is really cool when powered

>> No.1730318

>>1730306

Well I'm referring to that slightly awkward pause from firing to charging, plus I myself get annoyed when I mean to only rattle off a few weak shots and wind up firing a mid-charge shot too.

>> No.1730330

>>1730318
Ohh right, sorry, I thought you meant the firing animation itself. And yes, that can get a bit frustrating

The following also was a nice touch, nothing fancy, but I liked it
>Dost Thou Quit?

>> No.1730337

>>1730330

I'm planning on adding more little quit messages too, as a few of the defaults are still popping up, so if you or anyone else can think of a good one that'd be relevant, lemme know.

>> No.1730347

>>1730186
metrood?

>> No.1730350
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Streaming a test run of ultimate doom now with a customized perk's smooth weapon animations pack.

http://www dot twitch dot tv/chronohunter45

>> No.1730354

>>1730337
If I think of any I will. Anyways, nice to see an update, it was a pretty damn good one.

>> No.1730356

>>1730347

Term's Metroid mod: Metroid Dreadnaught. It's pretty gr8

>> No.1730359

>>1730347
>metrood?
Metroid Dreadnaught mod, I guess.
>>1730350
Too late for me to watch it but good luck anyways.

>> No.1730383

Anyone got a webm of Blaz's arm cannon transforming?

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>>1730383

allow me

You have no idea how hard I had to resist dropping a skeleton in this

>> No.1730418

>>1730395
Thank you very much, wanted to show it to a friend.

>> No.1730420

>>1730418
Also
>Get to Epic 2's Dead Simple-alike
>FF Mystic Quest's battle theme for the level
This is exactly what I wanted.

>> No.1730424

I was playing WoC+Hexercise mod with Slaughterfest 2012 and man,now i see why there was a Chillax server using said mod,this mod makes you over powered as shit
>Quietus+sword mastery at level 10+Lich skull on accessories+krater of might selected
I reached level 60 before map 08,if this was chillax i could have been level 100 since Map 03

>> No.1730450

is there a simple way to get multiplayer going on gzdoom? cant seem to get a connection going even with zdoom launcher im very distressed

>> No.1730456

>>1730450

Nope.
You're fucked.

No, seriously, multiplayer on GZDoom is anything but "simple". If that method doesn't work for you, nothing else you can do except wait for the netcode dev to get his head out of his ass.

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>>1730456
hm basically we just want controller support otherwise we would use Zdaemon. hows skulltag??

>> No.1730478

>>1730474
>skulltag

Dead. For a loooong time.
Use Zandronum.

>> No.1730484

>>1730232
The spearhook outclasses it in every way though.
WAY more flinching and range, doesnt eat stamina, besides being better for closing distances for obvious reasons.

For anything that should take more than a couple slashes to kill, you can use a little red mana with the transformed cannon's scattershot, which freezes even arch-viles in pain state for like 10 seconds. Its even AoE.

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>>1730484

You might have a point here.

I really should give the powered cannon a different utility though, those caltrops are great but holy shit they're wildly unbalanced.

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>>1729367
that's cool

>> No.1730540

>>1730535
oops forgot the source
http://crabwithglasses.tumblr.com/tagged/Doom

>> No.1730547

>>1730535
>>1730540

Yeah, I'm going to be commissioning her more in the future, I love her animation style.

>> No.1730552

>>1730474
holy fuck where is that in Barkley?

>> No.1730554

>>1729881
e3m3 is mostly by tom hall and was retextured

>> No.1730587
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>>1730547
I think her animations were the coolest stuff I saw flipping through her tumblr. The cyberdemon and caco were pretty rad too. Overall pretty good stuff...

>> No.1730601
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Seeing as how the chainsaw and super shotty were inspired by evil dead, a fair few wads revolving around it were made (so I've heard). Are there any that stand out or is it pretty much a crapshoot?

>> No.1730626

>>1730395
This
is
bonerrific

Makes me want a Doom mod that replaces some of the standard weapons with Cyberdemonic tech.

>> No.1730627

>>1730601
http://www.doomworld.com/10years/bestwads/1996.php

>In the grand tradition of making Doom into stuff not originally intended comes Army of Darkness Doom. Based on the cult classic movie of the same name (part three of the Evil Dead trilogy), AOD Doom puts you in the boots of Ash, the loveable hero, and dedicated S-Mart employee of the AOD movie. The maps, while nothing great by today's standards (which is often the case with old maps anyway) are still quite nice, and all of them present a pretty good challenge. You'll also notice some familiar situations such as your meeting with Evil Ash, the pit, the windmill (complete with moving blades) and even S-Mart makes an appearance. While the graphics may not all be great (most are borrowed from Hexen) the TC is a good deal of fun, and a must have any for AOD fans (which are probably also the majority of Doom fans) out there. (Cyb)

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?file=themes/aod/aoddoom1.zip

Never played it, but it earned a spot on the 100 best wads of all time portion of 10 years of Doom.

>> No.1730645

[Player Name] has connected.
[Player Name] joined the game.
[Player Name] was bruised by a Baron of Hell.
client [Player Name] disconnected.

>> No.1730657 [DELETED] 

>>1730540
friendly reminder this person has an MLP Doomguy OC

>> No.1730667 [DELETED] 

>>1730657
with how big the mlp fandom is, does this even surprise you?

>> No.1730680 [DELETED] 

>>1730657
no need to reject talent as long as they get results, what they do elsewhere has no impact

>> No.1730683
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Okay fellow doomers: Let's say you were tasked with redesigning the doom monsters for a modern remake. What are some changes you'd do?

I'd have the imps be somewhere between the classic and the d3 style. They'd walk on either four or two limbs like a monkey, but less agile than in d3. And they'd be intensely hot on the inside: when throwing fireballs their mouth, nostrils and eyes would would smolder and when shot at there'd be jets of flame shooting out of their bodies along with steam from boiling blood, and they'd violently combust into a charred husk when they die.

>> No.1730684

>>1730683
Mancubi would be less strait fatties and more distended bellies but more built features above that

>> No.1730689

>>1730683
More cybernetics and sci-fi in general; the Cyberdemon and Revenant are already the best designs. I like the concept art of cyberCacodemons. Maybe cyber enemies apear to replace weaker versions when you get to Hell.

Arachnotrons would go from armored walking tanks to creepy as shit cyberspiders because the realistic graphics would allow for more creepiness and I like that.

Imps, Demons and Hell Knights would need reworking, not sure what I'd do there but they're very bland. I don't want to turn them into dumb animals like D3 did but I'm not sure.

The Arch-Vile could stay the way he is circa D2, a creepy tall disjointed guy who screams and shoots fire in your face.

All the former humans would get designs that made them somewhat similar to Bioshock's Big Daddies, faceless barely-sentient murder machines with animalistic instincts and not generic zombies. Helmet/armor design would make that easier.

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here's a 100% kills run of 200 minutes of going down, in 5:33, in three parts. just to show that the map is possible to max now

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>>1730703

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>>1730710

>> No.1730718

>>1730552
http://lparchive.org/Barkleys-Shut-Up-And-Jam-Gaiden/Update%2025/
I didn't know this existed either.

>> No.1730723

>>1730683
>>1730689
Different warring factions in hell, with their own looks for their demon, in hell you get shades instead of zombies, allowing for more character in the enemies, some based on historical figures too

>> No.1730739

>>1730723
>some based on historical figures too
>in an universe where demons are heavily cybernetic
>you kill Mecha Hitler again

>> No.1730740

>>1730723
>some based on historical figures too

I don't like the idea of human based demons. Demons in Doom should be like an alien race.

>> No.1730751

>>1730739
and thus the Wolfenstine levels become cannon

>>1730740
most of it would just be flavor for the shades and stuff

>> No.1730752

>>1729139
yes i had planned to but evidently forgot about it!

>>1729220
thank you, but i didn't use these in the end. i think they look unnatural; it seems too obvious you're playing badly.

(also i think one went out of sync. not your fault, of course.)

>> No.1730756 [DELETED] 

>>1730657

So what?

>> No.1730798 [DELETED] 

>>1730657
type anything or anygame into DA and count how many pics you get till you reach a MLP one.

yeah it's dumb but it's so ubiquitous there's no point getting mad about it. just let them have their fun (the only time it gets me legitimately mad is when someone shopped a MLP into a Vietnam war pic and a bunch of retards said it improved the pic, now THAT is worth getting angry about)

>> No.1730802

>>1730627
Nice. Thanks.

>> No.1730812

>>1730684
I think mancubi should struggle and drag with their launchers and have big bulky tubes on their back.
>>1730689
Yeah, they have huge potential for creepyness. I'm thinking they should have a big exposed slimey brain protected by some kind of shield (which is only visible when shot at) or something. The d3 concept art for the arachnotron was cool though.

>>1730723
I thought about making a map like that. There'd be classical baron/knight satanic hell with gothic marble buildings and stuff, and the biomechanical weird hell with mancubi and spiderdemons and shit. Cacos, demons, imps and such could be controlled and exploited by both factions.

>> No.1730815

>check Duke forums
>somebody new asking a question about sourceports
>is misinformed about something
>self-proclaimed 'community leader' appears and calls him a retard
>similar stuff goes on at the Zdoom forums

it's a weird weird world when a 4chan general is far more friendlier in general compared to the actual forums for these games

>> No.1730817

>>1730723
I think the Shades as a shoutout to the SS in Wolfenstein could work as an easter egg.

Warring factions would be great too, one of the few things Halo really brought to the table was the dynamic campaign and your enemies being different. Could definitely start out with the player assisted by other Marines, then the Marines are corrupted by Demons a ways in and you have to fight them, stuff like that.

Not sure how the warring factors would work. Original demons versus cybernetic demons using modifications based on technology taken from Earth maybe?

>> No.1730819

>>1730683
Mostly graphical changes, and maybe make some things a little more mobile. Actually I planned on making an animation of a cyberdemon running fast enough to skid and lose his balance in his fervor.

So in short, physical redesigns, and faster/more logical movement. I'd try to keep them as having roles though. Like demons are blockers, mancubi/arachnotrons are bullet hells... Probably add a few new monsters too.

>> No.1730823

>>1730815

4chan is just an imageboard. Ignore all that "worst place on the internet filled with psychotic sociopaths who rape children".

>> No.1730824

>>1730815
The zdoom forums are generally quite ok in my experience.

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>>1730812
Arachnotron designs should be like Armagohma from TP. Big realistic spiders with extremely offsetting 'facial' features that are huge and scurry like actual spiders and just generally make me want to smash my tv.

>> No.1730838

>>1730823
Of course, I've seen the boards at their brighest but this place does have it's reputation for a reason (there's a german pedo game going around and there's an actual /vg/ for it so no matter how great this section is, it's always going to be tainted by things like that)

>>1730824
Sometimes, but I've seen the dogpile happen on a few new modders several times. Many of the older guys love to post huge lists of 'grieviences' at newer mods because it makes them feel important I guess.

>> No.1730841

>>1730838
>(there's a german pedo game going around and there's an actual /vg/ for it so no matter how great this section is, it's always going to be tainted by things like that)

That's a Krautchan creation. They're way worse than us. That game features characters based on real little girls, and that's really in poor taste.

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Wellllp /vr/ servers sprouting up on zdaemon now. They will run 24/7 dedicated, got some redundancy.

Search UNIX or /vr/

Been playing with some people from /vr/ earlier. Taking wad recommendations. Will run basically whatever. So far somebody wanted HR2 so it's running..

>> No.1730850

>>1730842
BTW I normally run fastmonsters 3 lives UV survival. So let me know if you want something other then that.

>> No.1730852

>>1730838
>Many of the older guys love to post huge lists of 'grieviences' at newer mods because it makes them feel important I guess
I might be wrong, but isn't that even worse over at doomworld?

>> No.1730854

>>1730841
Well fuck that game and anybody who plays it, but the general is gone by the looks of it so at least the mods are doing their jobs.

>> No.1730859

>>1730854
>>1730841
>>1730838
source please?

>> No.1730860

>>1730852
I don't actually visit Doomworld that much, the boardtheme just feels really claustrophobic. Dark colours on a forum suck and make the place feel cramped and miserable. I don't doubt you're right though.

>> No.1730861
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http://vectorpoem.com/news/?p=68

>> No.1730865

>>1730842
If that is really you l1t, it's Nook. I won't be able to play until tomorrow night.

>> No.1730879

>>1730852
not really, there's a few groups of people who really hate each other, but mostly it's polite.

>> No.1730881

Whats your favorite monster combo? I'm a big fan of fighting hell knights and shotgunners.

>> No.1730883

>>1730881
revenants and archviles

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>>1730865
Alright. BTW do you duel and or DM?
Also do you map at all? I'm working on some survival maps and fixing textures on my old map to be compatible with zdaemon.

>> No.1730890

>>1730881
Arch-vile with chaingunner
>both hitscan enemies which deal high damage slowly[the former charges a big attack when the latter does little but fast damage]
>One revives the other
>if the player is surrounded by said enemies and there is little to no cover
Plutonia invented this

>> No.1730894

>>1730881

I love former humans. They just look so cool. Then demons.

>> No.1730901

>>1730881
Armed with weaker weapons, zombiemen and shotgunguys combined with cacos, barons, knights, imps.

With stronger weapons, full touhou mode engage with anything that isn't a hitscanner, including pinkies and archviles if their purpose isn't only to be frustrating.

>> No.1730909

>>1730894
You'd love GoingDown,it makes zombie soldiers,sergeants and imps threat level high

>> No.1730915

>>1730861
remaking Bioshock 1 in Doom? Definitely would play

>> No.1730918

So this is where UACUltra map 06 music came,it's cool

>> No.1730919

>>1730918
forgot link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeEIvIQqIVk

>> No.1730925

>>1730889
No mapper but I'll occasionally 1v1 and DM on Brit10.

>> No.1730929

>>1730915
It was the actual bioshock level designer who redid arcadia in doom.

>> No.1730930

Just beat Doom for the first time, what should I play next if I were to work my way through notable old school fps games?

>> No.1730934

>>1730930
Duke 3d. It's an excellent game. Or possibly blood if you prefer the horror theme. It's hard as shit and has extremely good level design.

>> No.1730936

>>1730842
i'm still completely opposed to promoting zdaemon here or anywhere else until they get their act together and learn to co-operate.

>> No.1730938

>>1730930

There's Doom 2 and the expansion packs:

>Master Levels for Doom
>Plutonia
>TNT

>> No.1730946

>>1730823
vr is pretty tame but 4chan is kind of a hivemind for degeneracy

>> No.1730947

>playing shottyhead build in DoomRL
>tactical armor, shottyman, intuition 2
>whopping ZERO armor
>killed in Military Base by an elite Shotgun Guy 2 tiles out of my line of sight because I dared to move more than 3 spaces at a time
Perfectly calm

>> No.1730950

>>1730929
His essay on Doom's mechanics is also worth reading: http://vectorpoem.com/news/?p=74.

>> No.1730954

>>1730946

Higher than average rate for neets, weirdos, but most of us are just lonely and harmless. Not really serious sickos. Most of it is only "degeneracy" if you're some stuck up soccor mom.

>> No.1730959

>>1730954
no, some of its degeneracy if youre a normal person. i mean i understand why considering this place is anonymous and there's usually no consequence for posting whatever you want unless its spam/shitposting but really this place shouldnt be defended

>> No.1730967

>>1730947
don't scout with your eyes, scout with your shotgun

>> No.1730968

>>1730950
Great read but I had to stop myself from reading the comments, rage-inducing stupidity

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>>1730959

>normalfag morality
>2014

>> No.1730975

>>1730967
>shotgun drops off damage less than 5 tiles outside of Intuition area
>cannot be fired around corners decently unlike everything else
I'm just gonna roll Army of the Dead, same setup but more tanky.

Or maybe I'll run Fireangel since I never end up using full Whizkid or bulk mods. Dump those into a Tactical Launcher and hop my way around the map.

>> No.1730976
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There are so many badass possibilities for chainsaws, too bad most of the detail would be lost by being in first person.

>> No.1730978

>>1730976

Metrood's chinsaw is really awesome.

>> No.1730981

>>1730972
see? just the fact that normalfag even exists as a term here kinda proves my point. i'm not even saying that posting about your dirty thoughts on 4chan is morally wrong cause i understand why people would want to do that here, i'm just saying there's no point in defending an anonymous collective.

>> No.1730994

>>1730975
>cannot be fired around corners decently
The hell it can't. Shotgun corner shooting can get you through Hell's Arena UV with barely a scratch. And it's a superb scouting tool--I don't think it can actually miss.

>> No.1731002

>>1730936
What are you ranting about? Cooperate with whom?

>> No.1731010

>>1730936

Well, so fucking what?

>> No.1731018

>>1731002
the rest of the community, a closed source doom engine is an insult to id's goodwill in releasing the code in the first place, not to mention everyone else who gives their time to develop doom engines and share their code with each other.

>>1731010
all i ask is that you think about it from a moral and ethical standpoint. otherwise, i won't mention it again if no one else feels the same way.

>> No.1731037 [DELETED] 

>>1730657
Wait, the one that reblogs the porn?

>> No.1731056

>>1729010
And don't forget the ability to turn off that bilinear filter!

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>>1731018
Judging by what you said we probably share a lot of the same views.. But.. Who's morals? Not my morals. Everyone has their own agenda. Besides we are all hypocrites one way or another and throughout life constantly contradict our beliefs. You probably praise open source and hate closed source/advertising software yet you most likely own a disgusting cellphone and use a lot of the products in my picture.

Unfortunately zandronum is garbage (IMO) due to the type of wads everyone flocks to day in day out and the large amounts of annoying people in the community. Very little people like the older style of survival, dm. The dueling is nice.

Superior odamex is dead. This leaves zdaemon unfortunately.

>> No.1731078

>>1731062
>10

>> No.1731079

>>1731062
>Unfortunately zandronum is garbage (IMO) due to the type of wads everyone flocks to day in day out and the large amounts of annoying people in the community. Very little people like the older style of survival, dm.

Not the guy you're replying to, but why not just play in Zand and have vanilla or vanilla ish games?

It allows you to play a lot of the vanillaish mods out there that introduce fun stuff.

>> No.1731082

>>1731062
(Not the guy you're replying to but...)

Even aside from the closed source, the graphics always seem way too bright and washed out (like the gamma's been forcibly turned up?), it doesn't support a lot of mods, the whole community's made up of failing-grade high schoolers, and the whole global banning thing doesn't help a lot.

They have an awful history too, so I wouldn't doubt people would slowly find more problems.

If you're going to say Zandronum's not good because of the WADs hosted, then host your own. Best-ever is a thing.

It is still a shame Odamex is ded.

(You're making me want to pull out that "50 things wrong with Zandronum" list I found on Pastebin the other day. That thing was pure festering bull honkey.)

>> No.1731084

>>1731079
very little people play them on zand. When I jump in one of my servers i'll have 2 or three people right quick. On zdaemon I like being able to look at the list of servers with players in them and having 100% of them relevant to my interests. This is all opinions. No arguing what's better or worse. Different ports seem to fit different peoples needs. In terms of creating I don't plan on working on the engine because I don't give a fuck. I do enjoy making oldstyle maps though.

>> No.1731086

>>1731082
> the whole community's made up of failing-grade high schoolers
but that's wrong.

>> No.1731094

>>1731086
I've met some ZDaemon players in real life.

You don't even know, man.

>> No.1731096

>>1731084
The only reason those servers exist on ZDaemon is because ZDaemon can't support any other styles of gameplay.

>> No.1731101

>>1730890
I doubt it invented it. In the official wads maybe.

>> No.1731102

>>1731084
I was about to say just play both but then I realized I misremembered vavoom's icon as ZDaemon's icon in Doomseeker, and searching reveals the reason that they don't show up on Doomseeker is because the ZDaemon devs "don't like" Doomseeker. Not sure how reliable that info is though.

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>>1731096
Probably true. It's probably by design.

Maybe one day I will evolve into a better more interesting flamboyant individual and like the new type of games. I started playing doom 3 or 4 years ago and never grew up with it. Maybe I just have not gotten bored of the vanilla-ish gameplay yet? Either way it's the type of gameplay I like.

>>1731094
You have my interest now..

>> No.1731112

>>1730752
>yes i had planned to but evidently forgot about it!
These things happen

Not him, but it's hard to play unnaturally bad. I've never been able to "hide my powerlevel" and it makes gaming with friends super hard...

>> No.1731113

>Talkin bout ZDaemon devs and forum admins

oh boy oh boy

http://master.zdaemon.org/bans/
http://twitter.com/kilgorequotes
http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=1035
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doomworld-news/61326-zdaemon-1-09-released/
http://www.altdeath.com/fluxbb/viewtopic.php?id=492
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doomworld-news/56234-zdaemon-turns-109-today/

>> No.1731117

>>1731113
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/36270-zdaemon-security-issue-and-possible-gpl-violation/

>> No.1731121

apologies to all for off-topic.i should not feel the need to self-justify but i couldnt let it lie

>>1731062
>yet you most likely own a disgusting cellphone

as it happens i don't :) and if ever i did i have this bookmarked: http://lwn.net/Articles/602521/

>and use a lot of the products in my picture.

i have ebay/paypal accounts, not used either in 7 or 8 years, i removed flash a few months ago and never missed it (except for bbc/itv only streaming the world cup, but oh well). nothing else on that list, unless google reverse image searches count... damn. i suppose i am condemned.

>> No.1731127

>>1731113
>>1731117
i find it mystifying that doomworld even allows zdaemon to advertise on its front page

>> No.1731146

>>1731121
Well at least you're trying kiddo.

And I hope you think about the closed source products on or off that page you lied about before you spout your moral and ethics opinions next time.

>> No.1731154

>>1731146
true. i can't prove i'm not lying.

>> No.1731158 [DELETED] 

>muh freedums

>>>/g/

>> No.1731161

is it possible to make a doom mod that takes stats for things you did like certain enemies killed, shots fired, and items picked up, than saves it to a separate file like a .txt?

>> No.1731162

>>1731161
you'd probably have to patch the engine

>> No.1731163

>>1730861
>revenants that can teleport behind you
oh god how can they get any more agitating

>> No.1731164

>>1730540
>browse that
>see this
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/092/7/4/popipo_doom_by_vaneetra-d7csqti.swf
Oh lawdy.

>>1730975
>cannot be fired around corners decently unlike everything else
I think it's actually one of the better options, since it doesn't roll to hit (which means it doesn't take penalties for blind-firing, only range). As long as you don't give it an assembly that changes the damage type to something that can eat through walls it should stay useful all the way to the end.

>> No.1731167 [DELETED] 

>>1730091
>a game's 9 mcs make it good

>> No.1731170

>>1731161
No, mods can't read or write files.

>> No.1731171

>>1731162
>>1731170
so is it impossible or just so hard that theres no point in doing it

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>>1731164

>that flash

god damn it she's too good at being cute

>> No.1731178

>>1731171
Sorry, I misspoke. .WADs playing in any of the popular source ports can't read or write files. If you compile and distribute your own Doom source port you can make it do whatever the hell you want.

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>>1729583
plz tech-vile

tech-vile no

tech-vile stahp

"Yholl was not prepared for the Tech-Vile."

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>>1731182

>being stuck in a tight-ass hallway with one of those

>> No.1731194

>>1731182
Don't believe I met one of these yet. The Nightmare Arch-Vile's instant death volcano was bad enough, what do these get up to?

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>>1731062
>foobar2000

What did I miss?

>> No.1731201

>>1731194
It'll come out with Monsterpack 5, along with a whole bunch of new friends.

It's tougher, but much weaker than the Nightmare Vile, and it loves to debuff you if you have advanced techy armor. Fires a series of moderately damaging, slightly homing pulses at you from it's chest.
It also does super ultra horrible things if played with DoomRPG. That'll be fun.

>> No.1731207

>>1727336
What's a good wad that has both good level design and good custom weapons?

>> No.1731212

>>1731207
Winter's Fury
Xen Dynamics
Temple of the Lizard Men series
Pirate Doom

>> No.1731215
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1731215

Hey, /doom/. I'm playing Duke Nukem 3D for the first time, on 'Come Get Some' difficulty, and I keep getting my ass obliterated.

My main problem is that I keep running out of ammo REALLY fast, even though I manage to find most of the secrets/stashes.

Can anyone give me some tips on what I'm doing wrong? Am I just really bad at this game? ;_;

>> No.1731219

>>1731212
I thought Winter Fury was just resprited vanilla weapons.

>>1731207
Golden Souls is kinda fun.

>>1731215
Pistol for troopers, shotgun for pigs and Enforcers.
Eventually you get so much ammo you can just kind of steamroll all the episodes.

Explosives are really powerful.

>> No.1731221

>>1731215

Duke is really fragile, mate.
Just remember everything you learned while playing him in Samsara (sans explosive shotgun) and you'll be good.

>> No.1731225

>>1731215
>>1731219 again

Mighty Boot is also your friend when using the pistol.

You get two damage streams going on if you are using the pistol.

Don't do this with Pigs or Enforcers though, they don't usually flinch when shot so they get shots in.

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I know this is a touchy topic, but anyone else think Eric Harris is hot?

>> No.1731243

>>1731215
Strafing in circle will help you avoid most hitscans.

If you're facing a single pigcop; don't use 2 shotgun shells. Use one shotgun shell; and then switch to pistol and only about 2-3 bullets will finish him.
For a single octobrain, 2 shotgun hits + a few bullets; rather than 3 shotgun hits

don't waste your ammo to kill slimers and eggs; use your foot (or at worst, your pistol). I've seen people use shotgun shells to kill EMPTY EGGS.

Starting episode 2, you'll have the shrinker. It's overpowered, keep it for the aliens which have the most hp (commanders, octobrains; maybe even enforcers)

and yeah; save explosives for groups of several.

>> No.1731246

>>1731239
Actually looks like a kid that would be a complete loser in high school

3/10 can't blame dudes who bullied him

>> No.1731247

>>1731246
He wasn't bullied at all though, quit watching Faux News. Eric Harris and Dylan Kobold were both popular kids who went to prom and stuff. They just had a lot of psychological issues caused by the medication they took.

>> No.1731250

>>1731247
Well then, 3/10 would have bullied him

>> No.1731254

>>1731243
One thing to add, Octabrains will die in one hit from the devestator, for some reason.

>> No.1731259

>>1731247
There's fucking video proof in the documentary you nimrod.

>> No.1731261

>>1731254
It's because they're programmed to die from one hit from a rocket. The damage types for the RPG and Devastator missiles are the same though, so therefore the Octabrains die from one devastator projectile

>> No.1731263

>>1731259
No there isn't.

>> No.1731264

>tracked relentlessly by a Heavy Revenant
dad gammit

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>>1731219
>>1731221
>>1731225
>>1731243
>>1731254

Much obliged.

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>>1731247
Hearing about that shit in the late 90's was why I stopped trusting the mainstream news. It's all sensationalism and blatant lies.

>> No.1731274

>>1731250
lol, innernet tuff guy

You do know he was a narcissistic sociopath with anger issues and basically no concept of fear, right? He probably would've kicked your ass.

>> No.1731275

>>1731270
That picture accelerated my HIV into AIDS.

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>>1731270
Quit posting that shitty edit, this is the real version.

>> No.1731279

>>1731274
>the joke
>your head

>> No.1731282

>>1731279
Or maybe it was just a bad joke? I don't know, I'm not a professional critic.

>> No.1731284

>>1731239
They both were. I had a dream once where I was Eric Harris's girlfriend and we broke out of prison together.

>> No.1731286 [DELETED] 

>>1731239
>but anyone else think Eric Harris is hot?

>>>/tumblr/

And let's put a stop at this

>> No.1731298

Could you guys recommend a hi rez weapon pack for gzdoom? All I can find is disorganised dead links from Google.

>> No.1731301

>>1731196
If it's popular, it's botnet.

>> No.1731303

>>1727407
Ok i give up. What are you versioning?

>> No.1731308

>>1730627
It's pretty hokey, but the levels are really fucking fun for the most part.

>> No.1731310
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>>1731062
>Odamex
>superior

>> No.1731313

>>1731278
>pikachu and slornax
>hard
I dont know why all these people thing this casual game is hard at all

>> No.1731314

>>1731239
Almost as sexy as James Holmes

>> No.1731316

>>1731247
>caused by the medication they took
No, those kids were already pretty fucked up, severe delusions of grandeur, narcissism, etc.

>> No.1731319

>>1731243
I got the Octobrains wrong. It's 3 shotgun hits + then finish him with a few pistol bullets (or chaingun); that's if the 3 hits didn' tkill him, cause at close range they can.

>>1731261
Hmm no, they don't die from one rocket, they die from two. The thing is, one dev hit = 2 rockets. But it CAN happen that you only have 1 rocket left (very rare) or that only one rocket hit them out of the two, in which case they won't die.

Once you're done with the original game, check out the add-ons "Caribbean Life" and "Duke It Out In DC" (especially caribbean life).

You can also check this out >>1728456

>> No.1731320

Enough with the criminal praising already

http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?random

Doom, let's talk about it

>> No.1731340 [DELETED] 

> People are still playing brutal
> People are still playing samsara
> People are still playing rga2
> People are still playing jumpmaze
> People are still playing complex doom
> People are still playing whodunit

>> No.1731345

>>1731340

because nobody else wants to host another thing; and when being suggested, they make tons of excuses to not create a different server to spice some variety

>> No.1731348

>>1731345

*to spice some variety instead of complaining all day about what gets played on Z&

I hit the Submit button too soon

>> No.1731349

>>1731313
My friend can't even get to past a single Lance knight. People nowadays suck at games.

>> No.1731350

>>1728101
That chocolate doom or something?

>> No.1731380

>try to learn to speedrun UV
>get e1m1 and e1m2 down perfectly
>know the tricks for later maps in episode 1
>doesn't matter because my runs always die on E1M3
Is it just me or is that map ridiculously hard?
How do speedrunners go about not only playing through UV but doing it quickly?

Also anyone have any tips on the maze skip in E1M4? I can't seem to get it consistent.

>> No.1731383 [DELETED] 

>>1731340
>people are still playing samsara

How is this a bad thing
Go on, tell me
I'll wait

>> No.1731385 [DELETED] 

>>1731340
>stop liking what I don't like
what exactly is the problem here anon? what's wrong with playing those mods?

>> No.1731386 [DELETED] 

>>1731383
It's simply a terrible mod. It's fun for about 3 minutes and then afterwards it's nothing but a disgrace and detracts from what would otherwise be fun levels.

>> No.1731389 [DELETED] 

>>1731386

But how

>> No.1731391 [DELETED] 

>>1731389
How what?

>> No.1731396 [DELETED] 

>>1731391

How is it a disgrace that detracts from levels
And be very specific

>> No.1731405 [DELETED] 

>>1731396
Because it's a mere gimmick. "Hey guys play those levels but with these classes!". These classes are fuckin' garbage. This wad is no less of a shitty gimmick than RGA2 or brutaldoom was (or apparently is, fags are STILL playing that trash too).

It's as if you were playing with a wad that replaced all the sounds with some guy's voice. It might be fun for a few minutes but then the gimmick wears off and you want to unload the wad and continue playing without that garbage.

That's it specifically. If that's not "specific" enough for you, I'll just have to jam my cock right into the very depths of your asshole. Samsara is fundamentally bad, there are no specific changes you could make to it to make it not suck shit.

>> No.1731410 [DELETED] 

>>1731405

Oh so you don't have anything specific and hate it just because
Cool, glad we cleared that up

>> No.1731412 [DELETED] 

>>1731405
>playing as different classes is on the same level as a soundwad
sure okay m8

>> No.1731413

>younger me terrified by DOOM 3
>now realize it all jump scares and very predictable
>still fear it for some reason
I think I've just been conditioned to be scared to even play DOOM 3 even if the jump scares don't get me anymore
I have no idea what's wrong with me.

>> No.1731418 [DELETED] 

>>1731410
> Oh so you don't have anything specific and hate it just because
How comical! How comical! I can see you're deathly afraid of the absolute truth I'm exerting from my cheeks.

>>1731412
Class mods and sound mods are both gameplay mods. Gameplay mods are all poor gimmicks and provide very brief entertainment. That's why putting any serious development effort into them is a waste of time.

>> No.1731420 [DELETED] 

>>1731405
call the feds, amygdala hijack in progress

>> No.1731421

>>1731413
git flashlight mod
or git chainsaw, so that you're gud, because you have no fears

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>>1731405
>That's it specifically. If that's not "specific" enough for you, I'll just have to jam my cock right into the very depths of your asshole

>> No.1731435

>>1731418
how do you feel about gameplay mods that have new levels to go with them?

>> No.1731436 [DELETED] 

Pretty sure he's the same person from earlier who whined about a person partaking in a certain fandom and who claimed to find Eric Harris hot, both posts of which people inexplicably responded to as they are doing now.

Don't let him fucking get away with this.

>> No.1731441

>>1731319
just tested it ingame in Zoo.map, all the octabrains died from a single devastator rocket.

>> No.1731448 [DELETED] 

>>1730865
>If that is really you l1t

The same l1t that threw a shitfit on the Zandronum forums about Unix being dabest and that "you are a peasant of the I.T. world if you think otherwise", then cried in the IRC when mods split/locked his sper/g/fest?

>> No.1731452

>>1731413
strong emotional responses learned at a young age stick with you the rest of your life, because that part of your brain can override the rational part that knows it is all bullshit

>> No.1731456
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Can someone PLEASE explain to me how the hell do I get DoomRPG to work.

I downloaded the required gzdoom version, I extracted the DoomRPG zip into the gzdoom folder, renamed it to 'DoomRPG' like the installation guide told me to.

What next? I have no .wad nor .pk3 in the DoomRPG folder. I use the Launcher, but it only launches the core game.

>> No.1731460

>>1731448
lets not import drama shall we

>> No.1731461

>>1731418
>I can see you're deathly afraid of the absolute truth I'm exerting from my cheeks.
The only absolute truth is that we're posting in the thread that is past bumplimit and it isn't coming from your cheeks. I guess you can accept that.
There's something wrong with you and other annoying people who think their opinion >>>>> anyone else's opinion and can't just accept that people like and play stuff said people don't like. Also, I guess you should play games from which characters in Samsara come from to (probably) get the point of the whole mod.

>> No.1731464

>>1731460

You're right, sorry. I'll delete that post.
Just suddenly, everything makes sense.

>> No.1731469

>>1731461
>that is past bumplimit
that is a very good point, why am i reporting all these posts in a dead thread. i must have nothing better to do

>> No.1731489 [DELETED] 

Deleting my posts, huh? Looks like that janitor is deathly afraid of me. Afraid of my power. Afraid of my correctness. Why would this be? It's because he knows, deep within the very fiber of his being, that I am 100% correctness this minuteness with absolutely zero failness. I bet he's a dirty little samsara player, or even a dirty little samsara developer! The only reason anyone plays samsara or any other gameplay mods is clear: they're dirty little addicts and can't stop playing UACMN, and this nonstop playing is destroying their health. Playing mods such as samsara is merely a distraction from UACMN so they can survive. How comical! How comical!

Of course, there's another reason the janitor is deleting my posts. What is it? It's that he's angry that he's not as great a being as myself! What a worthless piece of garbage he is! Vanish! Vanish immediately!

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>>1731456
Please? Anyone?

>> No.1731501

>>1731492
>>1731456
Basically, you can use gzduum shortcut and use command line -file to make it work. You have to write paths to >>folders themselves<< to make it work. If you want to play plain DoomRPG, then you should add "-file DoomRPG\DoomRPG". If you want to play it with extras, then you should add "-file DoomRPG\DoomRPG DoomRPG\DoomRPG-Extras" and so on for necessary stuff. If you want to play, let's say, DoomRPG on Alien Vendetta, then you should add "-file av.wad DoomRPG\DoomRPG". I guess this should be simple.
I've never used this launcher so I can't help you with it.

>> No.1731502

>>1731441
oh you're right. I could swear I saw an octobrain survive a one dev rocket attack recently; i must be mixing up

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>>1731501
This is the error I get.

>> No.1731519

>>1731516
update gzdoom

http://devbuilds.drdteam.org/gzdoom/

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>>1731516
Your GZDoom is more than 1 year old. Get newer one from here: http://devbuilds.drdteam.org/gzdoom/.

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>>1731519
>>1731525
Whoops, that was my mistake. I accidentally pointed the game to an older version of GZDoom I have on my computer.

I thought this would be the end of the problem. But, the thing is, now I get this while trying to launch with the newer version of GZDoom I downloaded.

>> No.1731531

>>1731526
Go into your INI, search for "drpg_", delete ever CVar that comes up.

>> No.1731534

>>1731526
Go into your ini, delete that cvar, save, and re-run.

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>>1731531
>>1731534
Which ini?

Sorry, I'm terrible with source ports.

>> No.1731539

>>1731537
gzdoom-<username>.ini

It's in the same folder as GZDoom.

>> No.1731545

>>1731539
In this specific case, what exactly am I looking for?

Ctrl + F "drpg" gives no results.

>> No.1731559

>>1731545
well that ain't right since otherwise gzdoom wouldn't be complaining

are there any other INI files in gzdoom's folder?

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>>1731559
This is all I have.

>> No.1731567

>>1731563
right there at the bottom. That's the .ini file.

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>>1731567
I know, but it's not giving me any results when I type in "drpg".

>> No.1731579

>>1731574
post the whole file on pastebin

>> No.1731585
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Fuck, TNT is pretty good.

>> No.1731587

>>1731579

Here it is.

pastebin.com/8X7Y878i

>> No.1731593

>>1730817
more like hell has multiple fiefdoms in it run by different masterminds, cyberdemons and maledicts, the largest run by Sin, who deposed Lucifer herself a while ago

>> No.1731603

>>1731526
Try to get rid of second DoomRPG\DoomRPG in command line or launcher. You load it twice for whatever reason.

>> No.1731608

>>1731585
what is TNT's plot?

>> No.1731619

>>1731603
It doesn't help. Nothing really changes.

>> No.1731632

>>1731619
/r/ command line. For unknown reason you've been loading DoomRPG twice and it caused a crash at first. Also check gzdoom.ini file from older gzdoom version.

>> No.1731637

>>1731608
http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/TNT:_Evilution#Story

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>>1731603
I removed the second \DoomRPG\ from the 'DoomRPG Folder Location' and suddenly it works!

Thanks to everyone who helped me out.

>> No.1731648

>>1731637
that's actually neat, it displays both sides learning from previous mistakes, the ending seems odd though

>> No.1731668

Any of you guys have any suggestions for maps that go nicely with Brutal Doom?

>> No.1731672

>>1731668
do-it.wad

>> No.1731678

>>1731668

Anything non-slaughter, I guess.
Mark's own maps seem to be designed with Brutal Doom in mind.

>> No.1731680

>>1731668
Regular Day

>> No.1731681

>>1731668
Swan Fox

>> No.1731682

>>1731668
>>1731680
Try it, I could only imagine trying to run those two messes of code at the same time

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>>1731681

rip swan fox
too whoops for this sinful earth

>> No.1731691

>>1731298
No, get used to pixels faggot

>> No.1731692
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ooooooh shit

>> No.1731694

>>1731303
MST3K theme song. Have you not seen the show? A bunch of it's on Netflix.

>> No.1731697

>>1731380
It's that intro part that gets you, right? Open the door and shoot once (preferably with pistol). Then duck back along the wall and wait for the enemies to come to you.

Also, sacrifice some of your time to get the chaingun secret in E1M2. Maybe the chainsaw too since it's basically on the way to the exit. Chaingun will help immensely.

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>>1731692
just another day in the doom office

>> No.1731714

>>1731697
>Maybe the chainsaw too since it's basically on the way to the exit.
no you have to traverse the computer maze for the chainsaw. you're thinking of that little lift that gives you a glimpse of it.

>> No.1731725

>>1731714
Yeah, you do, but it's not that far out of the way. Especially once you learn the maze (not that difficult, stay along the right)

>> No.1731747

>>1731668
nuts.wad

>> No.1731750

>>1731725
well all i'm saying is i didn't bother... in fact i didn't get a chaingun until e1m5.
http://archive.foolz.us/vr/thread/1712327/#1714981
(/vr/ was speedrunning e1 last week.)

>> No.1731751

>>1731668
The ones that are designed for Broodal Doom and none others

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>>1730703
>>1730710
>>1730713
done this again after reverting some of my changes, but request of the author. again, sorry about that.

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>>1731770
>but request of the author
*by* request of the author.

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>>1731775
amazingly, the final time was exactly the same - 5:33.

>> No.1731814

so the chainsaw and fists always gets me killed. are they just novelty?

>> No.1731820

>>1731814
no
for the chainsaw only use it on enemies that have a high enough pain chance that it stun locks them
for the fists, run in, hit, then run back out again quickly, it's all about timing

>> No.1731824

>>1731340
>> People are still playing samsara
>> People are still playing rga2
>> People are still playing jumpmaze
>> People are still playing complex doom
>> People are still playing whodunit

I've never played any of these.

>> No.1731835

>>1731820 (me)
>high enough pain chance
...and a small enough radius that you can actually hit the thing you're trying to saw.

>>1731814
also it may interest (or horrify) you to know that there exists such a thing as a tyson demo (fists/pistol/chainsaw-only UVmax) of E2M8.

>> No.1731841

>>1731814
Is it that time again?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJcf0aOwmiA

>> No.1731853

>>1731380
Basically there's not much strategy involved, 99% of E1M3 is luck with damage rolls because shotgunners everywhere. The fastest way will be "just" charging through while blasting everyone in next order: monsters that block your movement go down first, then shotgunners, then anyone else.
About E1M4 jumps: the one across the gap straight to exit door requires perfect angle for StrafeRun50-jump which is hard to pick while rushing everything. The other one, to yellow key, is easier and requires only SR40. Do 5-6 consecutive successful jumps to "feel" the angle you should be running at.

>> No.1731887

>>1731814
I just closed out of it but I literally just killed the Spider Mastermind by jamming a chainsaw in its face nonstop

I have never been so fucking pleased by a weapon

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Well, if the quality stays like this then I will say that TNT is way better than Doom. This map is jam packed with awesome secrets and has a great track.

Plutonia keep this up?

>> No.1731937

>>1731923
From what I gathered over time from the others, its basically 32 level megawad version of Thy Flesh Consumed.
The soundtrack is everything you've already heard in Ultimate Doom, unless someone has made a custom soundtrack for it.

>> No.1731940

>>1731937
>TNT: Evilution contains a new soundtrack, while The Plutonia Experiment uses music from Doom and Doom II: Hell on Earth.

http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Doom

>> No.1731941

so im playing through alien vendetta with doomrla and am 11 maps in. its tough but pretty fun so far and i'm just wondering if there's a point where its going to get impossible

>> No.1731953

>>1731940
..yes, I was talking about Plutonia Experiment.

>> No.1731959

So I download the Ashley Carr music remix off Doomworld and it looks like it was packaged for Doomsday back when it was jDoom. ZDoom loads it fine yet Doomsday doesn't.

I wish the top ports would come together and agree on some all encompassing package standard for all addons.

Also, Doomsday's wiki is shit.

Also, what is your favourite soundfont to use with the game?

>> No.1731963

>>1731959
WeedsGM3 is the one I use

>> No.1731969

>>1731953
oh.

well, I found a remix, finally
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-p4PALFpZc

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anachronism1.3 in 16:06

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>>1731973

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>>1731981

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>>1731984

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>>1731992

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>>1731993

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>>1731996

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>>1732002

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>>1732005

>> No.1732057

I was having fun with Scythe.
Then I got to Run from It.

>> No.1732074

>>1732057
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TZye_pF-0U

You can do it anon!

>> No.1732075

>>1732074
I did it.
It was my least favourite level, but I did it.

On an unrelated note, why is PrBoom+ max volume so low? Music is fine but I can barely hear my shots.

>> No.1732083

>>1731345
>>1731348

So I just got back from being idle, and predictably enough, no cheese for the wine. Not even dessert; what is this shit.

>>1731668

Plutonia
The Eye
Going Down

>> No.1732085

>>1732006
Neat.

>> No.1732089

Making new thread, unfortunately I....

NO WAIT, NEVERMIND, I have the perfect pic right now; oops

>> No.1732093
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>>1731814
Use them on the pinky demons.

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Minigun +4p with 8x damage boost is kind of cool on marine.

Sorry about the gamma, I forgot again.

>> No.1732107

Whoops sorry I'm awake
>>1731106
>You have my interest now..
If you wanted a story it's not a very interesting one. I was doing IT tech at the tech school supplement thing for our local high school and struck up a conversation about Doom.

Those assholes sickened me.

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>>1732075
Okay I can't deal with this anymore.
Switching to ZDoom, hope there isn't a level with too many monsters.

>> No.1732120

NEW THREAD

>>1732118
>>1732118
>>1732118

>> No.1733226

one thing is having brutalkiddies in our threads; at least, at some extent, they actually play doom. but another thing is having...well, the kind of "people" that posted early in the morning about stuff that had nothing to do with the game; or videogames at all. glad it didn't devolved into anything else.

by the powers that be, let it be the last time this happens.

>> No.1733618

>>1731456
>>1731492
Get doom RPG launcher. Despite having great ideas, gameplay, and concepts, it's one of the worst god damn mods from a good group I've ever had to deal with.

Gotten better, recently though.

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