/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1719234]

How did the gaming world react to Aerith's death? I was only 8 at the time so I wouldn't know but it always made me wonder

[Anonymous No.1719273]

>>1719234
you didnt play 7 at 8 years old?

[Anonymous No.1719281]

>>1719234
I think I was 14 when I played through FF7. I don't really remember what I felt, I don't think I was that surprised.

[Anonymous No.1719292]

>>1719234

I played it way later than everyone else and so I knew well ahead of time what as going to happen, unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.1719328]

I was sad at losing a character in my party more so than losing Aerith.

[Anonymous No.1719335]

I didn't really pay attention to the cut scene, I thought Cloud was Swimming with Aerith and when I couldn't find her I thought my game glitched and I restarted the game

[Anonymous No.1719367]

>>1719292
Same. For years I never even used her in my party unless I had to, because I knew she was just going to die. Though I probably wouldn't have had any sort of emotional reaction to it had I played it when it first came out, since I was a dumb kid.

[Anonymous No.1719373]

most babbage's in my area held candlelight vigils

[Anonymous No.1719374]

>>1719234
Not OP but I played it for the first time this year spoiled beforehand.

When she got stabbed I felt nothing. People have built a self reinforcing fervor surrounding her death in part because of the game's (and in retrospect this scene itself) landmark status.

IMO it's quite well crafted. No overwrought final words and the sense of shock/loss doesn't kick in until you fight Jenova and go to your menu screen for the first time afterwards.

The part where you return to Midgar genuinely affected me.

[Anonymous No.1719382]

I was 17 when I finally played it in 2000 . The scene was beautiful and the music pretty awesome. But as for Aeris/Aerith herself, I didn't feel anything since she was never really in my party up until I actually had no choice.

[Anonymous No.1719443]

if it was tifa I actually would have cared

[Anonymous No.1719456]

I was right in the PSX's key demo, I think I was.. What, 19 or 20 when FF7 dropped. My friend played it at release but I had to find a used Playstation first so he was ahead of me. I remember that he was affected, and I was friends with the girl he was dating at the time who was copiloting his playthrough and she also was affected but they didn't tell me though I surmised that a main character died so I was a bit more braced for it.

But yeah, gamers were sobered by it at the time. It set a tone for the rest of the game, post-Midgar.

[Anonymous No.1719501]

>>1719292
I played it after beating VIII and IX, and now I honestly can't remember if I knew about already or not. Feels like so long ago.

[Anonymous No.1719586]

>then
"Holy shit, she...died? Is she actually gonna stay dead? Probably not. What, she's still dead? Well, shit...;_;"

>now
"lol I hated that stupid slut, I felt nothing, fucking slut I never used her since I knew it'd happen and Tifa is mai waifu!"

[Anonymous No.1719612]

The average FF7 fan will tell you that they cried when she bit the dust.

[Anonymous No.1719640]

I can distinctly remember wondering if I'm going to lose all her gear/materia when she died.

I'm fairly certain I lost an accessory with her death and I was highly fucking pissed.

[Anonymous No.1719651]

So many edgy posts ITT

[Anonymous No.1719657]

>>1719651
> ;_; why didn't you cry like a little bitch over a video game like me ;_;

>EDGY!

[Anonymous No.1719698]

>>1719657
Calm down there edgelord
Go take an autism pill

[Anonymous No.1719713]

>>1719698
You know a lot of buzzwords...
you must be an oldfag. my mistake my lord.

[Anonymous No.1720029]

you gotta remember that a lot of people played this game in their formative years, many of them antisocial emotional stunted losers

I'm just being frank, that's what I was at the time, too

but you shouldn't be surprised when a bunch of kids like that think this was some big emotional moment, video games were probably the most important thing in their lives at the time

[Anonymous No.1720056]

1) it was spoiled for me
2) I never liked aeris, she seemed like a slut. It was like she hardly said anything the whole intro. At least Tifa has known Cloud long enough to actually have some sort of relationship with him.

Did not really give a fuck, but I was expecting it.

[Anonymous No.1720070]

>>1719234
My first playthrough, on 56k modem days (no spoilers), I did not care when she died. As a kid I was all about Tifa and RedXIII

A puppy, boobs and this new fucking third dimension thing.

I was a happy kid, except the times where I was forced to use her and her low damage dealing ways and magic matched only by everyone fucking else.

[Anonymous No.1720102]

I thought it was pretty sad for a video game scene. Lufia 2/Terranigma/Illusion of Gaia had more of an emotional impact though.

It doesn't take a lot to bring me to tears, really. Sad movies are even worse for that.

[Anonymous No.1720109]

>>1719373
Wow, seriously? What's that about?

[Anonymous No.1720127]

I was 15 and I cried like a bitch and was depressed for months.

[Anonymous No.1720197]

Everyone was kinda jaw open amazed they killed her. In my memory, it was primarily because they expected to USE her. For some reason she was a pretty popular character. Just her character niche I think. Anyway, even today you can draw a line between people who love her and people who are sick of hearing about her and you'll kind of end up with a picture of who was shocked she died and who just raised an eyebrow and plowed on with Red XIII, Cloud, and Tifa.

>Prove me wrong, I'm a million years old

[Anonymous No.1720221]

When I got there as a 14 yo I already knew about it before hand and kinda forced myself to feel sad because I thought that was the appropriate reaction to have. Retarded, I know.
I actually didn't feel much of anything iirc, I was kinda bummed out because I liked her a bit but that was it.
I felt genuinely sad for Red's reunion with his father though.

[Anonymous No.1720223]

>>1720109
No. He's joking.

[Anonymous No.1720268]

I never really used Aeris, so I didn't especially care one way or the other.

THAT CHARACTER YOU DON'T EVER USE JUST GOT KILLED OFF, AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SAD ABOUT IT

Eh. Tifa and Cid for life.

[retal4 !mzul7cyvvE No.1720405]

>implying this wasn't the god tier video game death

[Anonymous No.1720409]

>>1719234
When I played it, as a badass-wannabe I was, I just used Cloud, Barrett (sub with Vincent when available), and Cid. No room for girlies in my gang. When she died? "Yo she just got SERVED". Honestly, looking back at it made me cringe.

[Anonymous No.1720416]

>>1720405
God Tier vidya game death occurs by a non-character in the first five minutes of Final Fantasy type-o.

Most realistic death scene ever.
Shows all the different stages..
denial, acceptance,hope,acceptance.

[Anonymous No.1720440]

I didn't cared, she was boring

[Anonymous No.1720479]

>>1719234
I played it in 1998 and even back then I had already had it spoiled thanks to articles in gaming magazines and some dude, who told a friend of mine not to grind her because she dies at the end of the first CD.

[Anonymous No.1720515]

>>1719234

Cried like a bitch.

[Anonymous No.1720532]

>>1719234


For me others spoiled it by telling me she dies.............but no one said WHEN


So when I played it for the first time I was kind of on edge thinking it could happen at any time, and when I finally got to the city of the ancients I could feel the tension in the game rising. It was kind of intense and more intense than if I had not known

[Anonymous No.1720596]

It wasn't really a surprise.

[Anonymous No.1720598]

>>1719234
Don't you mean Aeris?

[Anonymous No.1720602]

>>1719234
Considering FF7 is full of shallow one-dimensional characters, no one really cared.

[Anonymous No.1720610]

>>1720596


That's a load of shit. Everything she has on her except her weapon automatically revert back into inventory.

>that feel when you can't bring youself to sell her weapons you have in inventory

[Anonymous No.1720620]

>>1719234

The only thing that bothers me is when Cloud's carrying her, the water is shallow. Then the next shot with her body sinking the water is fuck-deep with no ledge where Cloud was standing.


If they ever remaster this shit, I hope they fix that.


Also fun fact: if you return on disc 3, on the bottom right side where that house is you'll see someone placed a cross next tot he tree.

Plus if you return to midgar on disc 2 as soon as you get the key, you'll see her ghost tending ehr flowers in the church in the slums. Just stand in the doorway because if you approach she'll disappear.

[Anonymous No.1720624]

>>1719234
>Aerith
Fuck off. Aeris sounds better.
Not even an FF7 fanboy, but it still pisses me off when people call her Aerith. People who call her that must have a case of the /lgbt/ lisp

[Anonymous No.1720627]

>>1720624


Weaboos.

Now you know why so many find them annoying.

[Anonymous No.1720635]

>>1719234

[Anonymous No.1720654]

>>1720627
It has nothing to do with weaboos. There's no 'th' sound in Japanese.

[Anonymous No.1720679]

>>1720654
My favolite palt of a stome is za sandaa ando rightoningu.

[Anonymous No.1720715]

I played it when it came out and it was pretty shocking. I didn't cry but it was emotional because I wasn't used to that in video games. I always liked the fact that they made you fight a boss immediately afterward, not even giving you a chance to let the death sink in.

[Anonymous No.1720789]

Gotta admit the music really was an effective tear-jerker. Seems pretty silly now though.

[Anonymous No.1720814]

I didnt cared
I prefer Tifa

[Anonymous No.1720816]

I was 12 years old , I used Aerith ALOT way more then Tifa. When she died I was shocked, I cried, and my mom got me bacon cheeseburgers from burger king to make me feel better.

[Anonymous No.1720858]

>>1719713
>being so butthurt you have to call for the janitors to delete that post that hurt your feelings

[Anonymous No.1720873]

I borrowed it from a cousin and he told me

"Don't use Aries. She dies and you lose all that exp."

So I never used her until like my 3rd or 4th play though because I wanted to see what her Limit Breaks did and this was pre-youtube. So I couldn't just look it up.

[Anonymous No.1720893]

>>1719657
Wow nice job janitor leaving shitposts up

[Anonymous No.1720904]

>>1720620

>Plus if you return to midgar on disc 2 as soon as you get the key, you'll see her ghost tending ehr flowers in the church in the slums. Just stand in the doorway because if you approach she'll disappear.

Also works on Disc 3

[Anonymous No.1720951]

It was a big deal back then. Not so much in retrospect.

I was way more affected by meeting Bianca again in Dragon Quest 5, and I played that a lot later.

[Anonymous No.1721026]

I don't think she had enough development in the game for me to get upset about it. Maybe if she died near the end of the game, which I assumed they planned to do, her death would have more of an impact.

[Anonymous No.1721332]

I played FF7 about 6 months after it came out and thankfully didn't have it spoiled for me.

I immediately took a liking to Aeris over Tifa, and made her my healer full time.

I was pretty shocked when she was killed, and yeah, I cried a little bit.

It really comes down to whether you get surprised by it or not. If you expect it to happen.. it probably loses a tremendous amount of power.

At the time.. this was the first "major character" death I'd experienced in a video game.

[Anonymous No.1721396]

I found Seto's scene much more moving

[Anonymous No.1721404]

Never used this bitch and i was a newfag to gaming back then until i stepped up in 2003, the only death that made me sad was when that one mercenary of resident evil 3 died in the train

[Anonymous No.1721432]

I was pisssd cause i wasted time leveling her up. Should have stuck with Tifa from the beginning. Now on my replays she rides the bench

[Anonymous No.1721482]

>>1719234
So, Aeris death is "our" "luke, I'm your father"?

[Anonymous No.1721518]

I was more troubled by papas's death.

Interestingly enough, did people cry simply because it was the first time they were exposed to a pro tags passing?

[Anonymous No.1721551]

>>1719234
Since I had played FF4 where main characters die like flies, I was more surprised that 6 didn't kill anyone than the fact that 7 did.

[Anonymous No.1721662]

I like to immerse my self in whatever media I am consuming, whether it's a book, game, music, or television show.

I was saddened by her death because I have this human trait called "empathy." Even if I personally wasn't invested in her (I was, I used her as my healer because that's what she's good for and I almost always have a dedicated healer in my parties, and she was the date for the Golden Saucer, I was also interested in why Shinra and Sephiroth was after her, plus her mysterious origin), I knew that my party was invested in her. It's evident that Cloud was in love with her.

It had an effect on me, even though I had experience with permanent party member death in other games such as Phantasy Star 2/4, Warsong, and Shining Force.

I think the main factor of whether or not it effected people was whether or not they used her in their party. You wouldn't feel much of a loss if you never used her because she wouldn't be around to say things, she wouldn't have any presence on your screen, and you wouldn't have invested time in making her stronger.

When Cloud was in a coma, I was sad, too. I don't think he should have recovered. That would have made the rest of the game so much more interesting.

[Anonymous No.1722383]

>>1721551
6 did (Shadow)

[Anonymous No.1722453]

One of my most favorite games (fuck you I was 13 it was my 1st rpg, and I was high on hormones and teen angst the whole time which put my feels into orbit. I haven't played it since and I remember it very fondly it's one of my fondest teen memories right up there with my first kiss. Soon after my first kiss I played the part in ice village or whatever it's called so yeah fuck you)

That said I took it pretty badly I was totaly blindsided by it, and they music and everything was too much and my mom was at chemo therapy becuase she had breast cancer so all these things combined led to a pretty good crying fit.... My big sister took me to Dairy Queen an I ate a large blizzard came home and kicked the shit out of jenova and cried some more.

[Anonymous No.1722454]

I followed the game online before it came out and knew there was a giant spoiler that happened at the end of disc 1, but didn't know what it was.

The FMV in FF7 was a bit shitty, if I remember rightly none of the FMV in the game had any sound effects or vocals at all. Any scene that was meant to be dramatic (like the one where Aeris dies) lost a lot of its impact because of that. Now that I think about it, I the game would have been better if Square told the important parts of the story entirely through in-game cutscenes, and kept the FMV just to action sequences and the like.

[Anonymous No.1722469]

>>1721662
>It's evident that Cloud was in love with her.

Did Cloud really love her or did it only seem that way because he thought he was Zack?

[Anonymous No.1722480]

>>1719234
If I remember right. FFVII introduced a whole lot of people, for the time at least, to the RPG genre.

And for a lot of it them Aerith's/Aeris' death was, and I hate to use this phrase, "baby's first character death"

[Anonymous No.1722493]

>>1722480
>I hate to use this phrase
It's exactly right, though.

The way some people reacted to Final Fantasy VII, you'd think it was the first JRPG ever made. And the way people reacted to Aeris's death, and how groundbreakingly TRAGIC and SERIOUS it was, you'd think it was the first video game in recorded history where a main character dies.

It was a great game, but people act like it was completely unprecedented.

[Anonymous No.1722523]

>>1722469
That question opens up a deep, endless, and ultimately unanswerable can of worms about what "real love" is, and also what "real" means. So I'll answer with Descarte and say "I think, therefore I am."

[Anonymous No.1722553]

>>1719234
first time playing
aeris dies dies didnt have any phoenix downs
oh thats why she did not revive
next play though purchase 99 phoenix downs
she still died no way to revive

[Anonymous No.1722559]

>>1722383
no when does he die

[Anonymous No.1722596]

>>1722469
I prefer to think that Zack and Cloud were such bros together, that they would have had near-identical taste in women and Cloud would have fallen in love with Aeris even if Cloud never met Zack.

I mean, Cloud and Zack were pretty much on the same wavelength. There's a REASON he was able to delude himself into believing he was Zack for so long.

[Anonymous No.1722602]

>>1722559
He dies on the floating continent if you don't wait for him. If you fly off in the airship too soon after Kefka triggers the end of the world, he gets trapped there with no way to escape and presumably dies.

Even if you do save him, he dies at the very end of the game when Kefka's tower collapses, he decides not to escape with everyone else, out of guilt over his old partner's death.

[Anonymous No.1722657]

>>1719234
I was 15 and was fucking mad as fuck. I literally went "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" like a little bitch.

tore through the rest of the game like a madman. I never want to feel like that again

[Anonymous No.1722659]

>>1720620
>Plus if you return to midgar on disc 2 as soon as you get the key, you'll see her ghost tending ehr flowers in the church in the slums. Just stand in the doorway because if you approach she'll disappear.

oh my god that so fucking sad. She was there man. Fuck this game

[Anonymous No.1722702]

>>1720610
>that feel when you can't bring youself to sell her weapons you have in inventory
Shit I thought I was the only one.

[Anonymous No.1722717]

>>1722702
>get her final limit break item
>after she's dead
>sigh every time you open your inventory

[Anonymous No.1722863]

That was already spoiled by the friend I borrowed the game by.

>"By the way, don't bother leveling up Aeris because she will die."

[Anonymous No.1722918]

>>1721662
>I was saddened by her death because I have this human trait called "empathy."
And you're not acting condescendingly about it at all, right. Fuck off.
FF7's characters have so comically misshapen dialogues and personalities that I find it really hard to imagine truly empathizing with them. The one time I truly got worried about a character getting wounded was Meryl in MGS and I'm not even a fanboy. FF doesn't come close.

[Anonymous No.1723076]

>>1720624

[Anonymous No.1723109]

I was pretty young when it came out and I didn't actually own it, but there was this guy I hung out with who was older than me. He wouldn't stop telling everyone how he cried over it.

Even at my age I had read about it in game magazines how it was a HEART WRENCHING TEAR JERKING SAD MOMENT and that gave me the impression he was full of shit and, well, buying into the propaganda. There is no way anyone would have "cried" let alone tell their mates if they weren't given that prompt from the magazines, shit was EVERYWHERE at the time and those proto-deepfags leveraged it for whatever reason.

[Anonymous No.1723905]

Man, I like grinding earlier in RPG even as a kid, when I got the game I leveled her much because she was primary healer.

Once I realized she died and gone forever, I restarted the game and stuck her on the sideline unless mandatory. fuck her for wasting my grinding time, and I always like Tifa more, soft bitch is never my type.

[Anonymous No.1724381]

>cant use phoenix down even when the corpse is almost intact
>can revive perfectly when the solar system exploding killed someone
Was it seriously that hard to switch dead with fainted status, or give any reason whatsoever to why she couldnt be revived, like desintegrating her body?

[Anonymous No.1724385]

>>1724381
In PS2, my gripe was that Nei couldn't be cloned after her death for some reason... even though I've cloned her several times before NeiFirst fucked her off.
Stupid shit.

[Anonymous No.1724389]

>>1724381
In most of the FF games, 0 HP = Knocked Out

I blame Japan's love of English and fast and loose play with mythology for the Phoenix Down name. This is all speculation, mind you.

[Anonymous No.1724395]

>tfw you spent months on shady gaming "tips" websites to try to find a way to bring her back
Those sites were as bad as all the old PokeGod rumor ones

[Anonymous No.1724519]

>>1719234
Wait, she fucking dies? What the fuck? I have been grinding this bitch so fucking much are you fucking serious?

[Anonymous No.1724536]

depending on the community at the time it was usually split 50/50 "i'm sad" and glad at the slut being gone

[Anonymous No.1724541]

>>1724381
Hilariously, Supernova can't even kill anyone. It deals percentage damage. In the Japanese version it dealt solid damage and could kill someone, but the animation was also different, less over the top, just some starry particles flying from space or something.

[Anonymous No.1724576]

>>1721662
>I was saddened by her death because I have this human trait called "empathy."
Sometime you just need a sentence to know someone is an autistic loser.

[Anonymous No.1724595]

i was more worried about all my healing magic i had attached to her but I was indifferent to her as a character

also this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPf6xttVsFU&feature=g-vrec

[Anonymous No.1724602]

>>1722596
didnt play crisis core

inb4 crisis core isnt canon

[Anonymous No.1724610]

>>1724576
What, like all these internet tough guys who brag about how they didn't cry, like that's an accomplishment worth crowing about? Clearly these people are the very model of social cunning.

[Anonymous No.1724631]

As a kid, I usually skipped large quantities of dialogue or missed cutscenes while only skimming briefly over a few paragraphs.

When this scene occurred, I joked to my brother that they're just going to up and drown her in this shallow pool for being a burden on the party, as I just thought she was unconscious.

[Anonymous No.1724778]

>>1724631

Are you still this stupid?

[Anonymous No.1724793]

>>1724778
Not at all. At least, I hope not. I just had a terrible sense of humour when I was young. Granted, I was seven at the time. It's just Final Fantasy VII was never a game that really captivated me until I came back to it a few years later.

[Anonymous No.1725323]

I found Zack's death a lot more depressing.

[Anonymous No.1725332]

>>1720029

yeah, you pretty much summed up my thoughts

>>1724576

not pointing any fingers, but yeah this thread is filled with too much information

[Anonymous No.1725354]

No one gave a fuck except some fags on a Final Fantasy Usenet group. It wasn't really a meme until people started looking back at the game.

[Anonymous No.1725383]

Was 12 or 13, and I cried a bit, yeah. I'm a little bitch.

Finished my third playthrough of the game earlier this year, at the age of 27. The event itself didn't really shake me, as the story and dialogues have become threadbare to me (kinda sucks to be this disillusioned). But FF7 is still masterful in how it evokes certain atmospheres, as wishy-washy as that sounds. The music, the world design, the charmingly trashy pre-rendered backgrounds, the art direction are just too good. I felt on edge as soon as I first spotted the city of the Ancient from up the cliff, even more so once entering it. I'm not sure why but I never once hit the X button to run, as I usually do. Too bad her death scene is extremely hamfisted. They were better world crafters than raconteurs over at Square.

[Anonymous No.1725407]

>>1719234
I went into this game blind a couple months ago, I'm really glad it wasn't spoiled for me.
She was a big member of my party, and I wasn't prepared for it at all. So it hit me pretty hard.

[Anonymous No.1725610]

>>1719273

8 year olds aren't a part of gaming culture.

[Anonymous No.1725998]

>>1725383

>FFVII at 12-13
>being a grizzled /vr/ veteran

Me too, bro. I'm not saying I'm the ultimate gamer or anything, but it's like I can't even get out of modern games the same thing as other people do.

[Anonymous No.1726026]

>Aerith

Who, you mean Aeris right?

[Anonymous No.1726640]

>>1720197
>Red XIII, Cloud, and Tifa.

>not Cloud, Barret, Cid

shit tier team.

[Anonymous No.1726647]

>>1719273
Not that guy but I played it starting when I was either 7 or 8.

>>1719234
I was pretty shocked. It made me really upset that the character was removed especially through that shitty first playthrough I was trying to figure out at the time.

[Anonymous No.1726652]

>>1726640
Who even used Red XIII anyway

[Anonymous No.1726662]

>>1726652
nobody. he can be replaced entirely. his only useful ability was the one that casted haste on the party.

[Anonymous No.1726676]

>>1726662
>his only useful ability was the one that casted haste on the party.

Certainly more useful than Cid's ability to level up Materia slightly faster.

[Anonymous No.1726737]

>>1726676
except for the fact there's materia/command spells that do that already, making him entirely useless.

[Anonymous No.1726762]

>cheesing Teenage Drama Rollercoaster VII

You're a big boy. How about letting the other kids play with their toys the way they want?

[Anonymous No.1726906]

>>1725383
>the music, the world design, the charmingly trashy pre-rendered backgrounds, the art direction are just too good
This guy gets it.

[Anonymous No.1726972]

I really felt more sorry for Cloud than Aeris because he wanted her to forgive him but then it was to late.

[Anonymous No.1726975]

>>1719234
She was the primary healer in my party, as I recall, so I was actually pretty pissed. Beyond that, anyone that has been playing Final Fantasy games for awhile kinda expects these things. We all had to deal with poor little Rydia getting eaten by Leviathan in FF2 and the cracking of the world in FF3. Losing Aerith really wasn't that surprising. FF games have always had a pretty substantial dark and sinister tinge to them, ever since FF1.

[Anonymous No.1726976]

>>1719234
I remember being shocked and saddened, but I was more sad at the Cosmo Canyon part.

[Anonymous No.1727032]

>>1726975
>Aerith
Who the fuck is Aerith?

[Anonymous No.1727037]

>>1727032
I never knew where people got that from? Is it in the American version or the manual or something?

[Anonymous No.1727041]

>>1727037
>I never knew where people got that from? Is it in the American version or the manual or something?
I have no clue. 4chan is the only place I've ever heard ppl call her Aerith. I am curious as well.

[Anonymous No.1727051]

>>1727037
She's called Aerith in everything she appeared in after FFVII, pretty much. Crisis Core, Advent Children, Kingdom Hearts, etc. I guess they decided that was the proper translation of her name, even if it sounds dumb.

[Anonymous No.1727052]

>>1727051
>She's called Aerith in everything she appeared in after FFVII, pretty much. Crisis Core, Advent Children, Kingdom Hearts, etc. I guess they decided that was the proper translation of her name, even if it sounds dumb.
Interdasting.

I still prefer to call her by the name that is used in the actual game.

[Anonymous No.1727056]

>>1727051
Well, I'm not calling her Aerith and FF7 should never have been a franchise of its own.

[Anonymous No.1727075]

>>1721482
Yep.

[Anonymous No.1727081]

>>1721482
I guess that's a way of putting it.

[Anonymous No.1727086]

>>1722523
I've never heard this explanation for that crap before. Nice work.

[Anonymous No.1727101]

>>1724602
..............gtfo.
Also
>not retro

[Anonymous No.1727107]

>>1722523
That doesn't bring up any kind of valid point and don't use Cogito Ergo Sum out of context.

[Anonymous No.1727131]

>>1727107
Here's a valid point: Aeris shook/ broke down Cloud's facade better than any character in the game during disc 1. Also cloud inadvertantly adapted his own interpretation of zack's ego and achievements... but his feelings from then on were still his own. (Though the degree to which cloud likes aeris is up to the player, so i only partially agree with the original point)

[Anonymous No.1727150]

>>1726652
I thought he was pretty cool honestly. I always rolled with him cloud, and vincent. I was never too fond of cid or barret aside from their constant cursing, and everyone else was shit without their final limit breaks and materia abuse. Using red actually made the game harder for me since he deals shitty damage and I always made vincent transform, god damn that fucking two headed dragon must have killed me like 50 times before vincent pulled through with a gigadunk.

[Anonymous No.1727153]

>>1719374
This, pretty much. Going back to midgar is where it sets in. I knew it was coming from having watched my brother play, but if anything affects you it's everything afterwords.

[Anonymous No.1727406]

>>1727150
Schizo was one of the few difficult bosses, and thats only if you go in not knowing what to expect.

[Anonymous No.1727417]

>>1727107
Ok, I'll break it down for you.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, thinks it's a duck, smells like a duck, and appears to be a duck in every way down to the quantum level, is it a duck?

If you think you are experiencing Emotion Y, you act like you're experiencing Emotion Y, and believe you're experiencing Emotion Y, then you're experiencing Emotion Y.

He thought he was Zack, he acted like he was Zack; as far as anything that matters is concerned, he was Zack. Except for the pedantic point that you're itching to make right now to derail the conversation that he was Cloud and not Zack.

If you STILL need more examples: phantom pain is still extant pain despite there being no limb.

[Anonymous No.1728162]

>>1727417
I already knew that. I just thouh it was a shitty answer.

[Anonymous No.1728179]

>>1725998
Err nah, playing a 1997 game at the age of 12 doesn't make me a retro veteran at all. But yeah, I'm still happy I got to play a game like FF7 before I grew up.

Also when I say I'm disillusioned, I don't mean it the way edgy kids might mean it. I have a degree in literature (>humanities), and I just can't stop approaching all forms of narrative media with academical scrutiny. FF7's dialogues are disappointingly basic and I can't help but notice it. But the world building elements are still so great they almost manage to completely make up for it.

[Anonymous No.1728283]

>>1728179
I think the fact that it's so basic is why so many people took it to heart.

[Anonymous No.1728623]

>>1728283
Yeah well, basic is one way to put it. You can also call it accessible.

[Anonymous No.1728678]

>>1723076

That image cracks me up every time.

Then again, the 's' was a translation error, wasn't it?

[Anonymous No.1728750]

>>1728678
According to Wikipedia:

>This was transliterated to "Aeris" in Final Fantasy VII and Final Fantasy Tactics, but in later products has been changed to "Aerith". Both transliterations have basis, as the Japanese "su" (ス) is used when transcribing "s" (/s/) and "th" (/θ/) to Japanese. However, official Japanese material uses the spelling "Aerith",[25][26][27] and developers have stated that "Aerith" is a near-anagram of "Earth".

So it's not exactly an error. Honestly I think Aeris sound better.

[Anonymous No.1728778]

>>1719234
>Aerith's
Who?

[Anonymous No.1728802]

Who cares about Aeris/Aerith, much worse is how they butchered FFVI's Tina, Stragus, Cayenne and Lock.

[Anonymous No.1728813]

>>1727037
It's a variation of "Earth", which fits her character.

>Naming origin
>Named as a writing variation of "Earth".

[Anonymous No.1728872]

>>1722717
>>1722702
>stores keep selling upgrades to her weapon after that
Fuck you game. It had me hoping for nothing

[Anonymous No.1728874]

I didn't feel anything. Sure it was sad, but it was more of a "whoa, really? well ok" kind of a thing.
As a kid, the deaths of Gremio and Pahn were far heavier for me, since I played Suikoden a bit before FF7 came out.

[Anonymous No.1729012]

>>1728802

In terms of Japanese pronunciation, Aeris/Aerith doesn't matter, and is the same name. They both sound like 'ay-dis'. It's not exactly a 'd', but there isn't really a way to transliterate how the Japanese deal with 'r's.

So it's pretty much the same either way. Use whichever spelling you like best.

[Anonymous No.1729016]

>>1729012
>but there isn't really a way to transliterate how the Japanese deal with 'r's.
They just say "r", you nut. Not the English-speakers' "wwww" kinda sound, but a real man's "r".

[Anonymous No.1729017]

>>1728813
Is there any connection to Terra?

[Anonymous No.1729025]

>>1729016
>Not the English-speakers' "wwww" kinda sound
What fuck kind of English do you speak?

[Anonymous No.1729062]

>>1729016

>they just say 'r'

Not the way English-speakers do. It's sort of a soft 'd', and involves lightly touching the roof of your mouth with your tongue.

[Anonymous No.1729075]

>>1729062
>Not the way English-speakers do. It's sort of a soft 'd',
The Japanese pronounce a proper "r". Some dialects say "l". English-speakers, meanwhile, say a muffled kinda "æ" instead of an actual "r".

[Anonymous No.1729098]

>>1729062
Alveolar tap

>>1729075
Alveolar approximant

[Anonymous No.1729129]

I remember people making a huge deal out of it, as if FF didn't pull that shit off way better with Galuf before. But I guess OLD PEOPLE DEATHS aren't as tragic.

I only worried about lost items.

[Anonymous No.1729164]

Got spoiled on it before I played 7

Played 7, was in mid teens or somewhere there. Went "huh" when it happened.

Namely 2 reasons:
-The CG just made it look awkward as hell. Don't care if it was 97, we had decent CG in games then. Even in the same game there were Scenes that looked less "what".
-It had no real reason to happen other than Aeris herself being a giant retard, and to give reasons to hate Seph. It was a giant plot device that didn't serve to build characterization. It had no real reason to happen until you lean it was one of those "just as planned" bullshit deals.

[Anonymous No.1729309]

>>1729129
FF7 was the first Final Fantasy game, or indeed, JRPG game, for a lot of people, though.

[Anonymous No.1729347]

>>1729129
Well, not all deaths are equal. The circumstances surrounding them can cause different emotional reactions. Aeris dying out of nowhere is quite a shock compared to Galuf going out like a champ. Then there's shit like FFIV where half the cast "dies" at some point. By the time your 4th party member heroically sacrifices themselves, it starts to become a bit ridiculous and the impact is lost.

[Anonymous No.1729473]

>>1729017
Terra was called Tina in the Japanese version. They changed it to Terra in the translation because Tina didn't sound very exotic.(which it does in Japanese)

[Anonymous No.1729487]

>>1729016
>>1729062
>>1729075
If you want the theory behind this: GA's and RP's phoneme inventory includes the (post-)alveolar approximant and the alveolar lateral. R and L, if you want. Japanese has neither. What they have, though, is the postalveolar flap which kinda sorta sounds like something between the GA/RP /r/ and /l/. Just enunciate both these sounds, then try to move the tip of your tongue to a position between the two you just had, and just quickly move it up towards the palate. That's your Japanese* postalveolor flap.

GA, as opposed to RP, has tapping for the alveolar approximant when it's situated between two vowels, more less. Stuff like rider and writer being exactly identical when enunciated. That's called alveolar flap, /ɾ/.

Furthermore, Japanese doesn't have the infamous dental fricative. They replace it with す or ス, which is basically [su]. So there's a good case to be made for Aeris and Aerith being virtually and functionally identical.

*and yeah, there's local variants and dialects and sociolects and shit

[Anonymous No.1729505]

>>1720405
Yeah, I sure care about the catgirl that got like three lines in the whole game.

The Phantasy Star games were shit.

[Anonymous No.1729926]

>>1729164
>It had no real reason to happen other than Aeris herself being a giant retard, and to give reasons to hate Seph.
Except that Aeris was going to a place with concentrated holy energy and was using it to save the planet from the meteor Sephiroth had summoned; and Sephiroth was there to stop that from happening. And it wasn't "just as planned". Aeris had no idea that she was going to take over the consciousness of the planet. She was just trying to activate some materia.

[Anonymous No.1729937]

>>1729505
I liked her naked thighs.

[Anonymous No.1729956]

>>1729129
>>1729347
also galuf is replace with krille with his exact same stats
its almost like he never left

[Anonymous No.1732921]

My friend had the game. He played it first before letting me borrow the game, and when he lent the game to me, he was just freaking out and telling me to not use Aeris. I kind of ignored that advise, I guess. I personally just thought the scene was well made, and that was pretty much it. I didn't really have anything else to compare with, FF7 was my first RPG of any kind.

[Anonymous No.1732943]

>>1729129
FFVII came out in the states before FFV did. I bet you feel silly.

[Anonymous No.1732950]

>>1719234

apology for poor english

i was sat at home staring ff7 when frank ring

‘aerith is kill’

‘no’

[Anonymous No.1732991]

>>1719234
THANKS FOR THE FUCKING SPOILER YOU FUCKING NIGGER TOE SUCKING SACK OF ROTTEN APPLE SHIT DUMPLING FART FUCKER

[Anonymous No.1732995]

>>1732991

I think the statute of limitation on this one is long behind us, though.

[Anonymous No.1733098]

I was sitting at home one summer night when my phone rang and the girl on the other end said she was Aeris and then I saw this thread

BUT WHO WAS PHONE

[Anonymous No.1733121]

>>1732995
I think he just wanted an excuse to post his gif.