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ITT: Games with bad graphics

>> No.1713251

Anything in Action 52.

>> No.1713260
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Where is Waldo indeed.

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>>1713260
I found waldo

>> No.1713301

anything on N64

>> No.1713303
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>> No.1713304

>>1713301
If we're going to go that route, I feel like you have to include the PS1 as well...

That being said, I think that there are tons of beautiful N64 and PS1 games.

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>>1713317
let me die

>> No.1713332

I'm already tired of the N64 vs PS1 going on on /vr/, it's like, yeah we get it, you grew up with either one or another, and are now 18, 20-ish and want to shitpost about your nostalgic console war.

Can't we get a containment board for the 90s kids? browsing /vr/ is so boring lately...

>> No.1713336

>>1713317
Jesus what a nightmare.

>> No.1713340

>>1713332
If you were 18-20 you would have "grown up" with PS2/Gamecube/Xbox.

>> No.1713342

>>1713332

It's just one single, very zealous anti N64 shitposter, you can see him shitposting in every gen 5 thread using the same words, phrases and posts.
Just ignore him and answer to the logical people.

>> No.1713345

>>1713340

I'm sure they'd also shitpost about PS2 vs GC if they were allowed here.

>> No.1713348

>>1713303
DKC had good graphics, at least for the time. The animations are very smooth.

>>1713332
I think the n64 had a slight upper hand on visuals, mainly because of the texture filtering. I grew up with PS1 so this isn't nostalgia talking.

>> No.1713370

>>1713348

The N64 is generally considered to look better, fog excluded

>> No.1713393

>>1713303
Did you misread "bad" as "fucking incredible"?

DKC has amazing visuals.

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>>1713317
that looks like an nes game after it glitched and froze because the contacts are dirty

>> No.1713641

>>1713317

It's probably intentional

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>> No.1713664

>>1713340
im 21. had genesis then n64

>> No.1713679

>>1713304
>I feel like you have to include the PS1 as well...

Yeah, I really dig the console. For me, it's still the best console in existence, but the graphics just aren't good. I mean, it was a revolutionary piece of hardware (the damn thing came out in 1994, ffs) but even back then it wasn't exactly beautiful.

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Shit game too.

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>>1713662
I remember getting my N64 and my tech illiterate father watching me play this. He was all like "Oh wow, it's just like watching TV!".

>> No.1713717
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Nowhere near as bad as OP of course but...

>> No.1713719

>>1713702
It's a pretty game, what's there not to like?

>> No.1713776 [DELETED] 

>>1713214
Not going to read the thread. I can already guess it is filled with spillovers from the in/v/asion posting their epic contrarian opinions about games that actually have good graphics but are popular. I'm guessing the thread will be filled with the DKC trilogy, Super Metroid, Star Fox, Sonic 3, Castlevania titles, Mega Man NES titles, and the entire N64 library. None of the discussion will relate to art style, color choices, detail, delivery etc, and almost none of the discussion will take into account the development context or the technological limits of the system. Too bad, it's a potentially very interesting topic but will inevitably go to shit very shortly. It is impossible to have a good "Name things that are bad" thread on 4chan.

Believe me when I say everyone really loves to hear about how edgy and unique you are for bashing SOTN and Rayman for using sprites, literally every SNES game that uses Mode 7, or MGS for having low res face textures. Happy shitposting, everyone.

>> No.1713781

>>1713776

You bring up a good point. No need to wonder why I never really visit here much.

>> No.1713801 [DELETED] 

>>1713776
>/v/ has gotten slower
>retains quality to shitposting ratio
>/vr/ becomes slightly faster
>decreases quality to shitposting ratio
Why?

>> No.1713806

Should I list the N64 library alphabetically, or chronologically?

>> No.1713831

>>1713393
No it doesnt

>> No.1713848

>>1713831
yes it does

>> No.1713938

>>1713848
no it really doesn't. the 3d models are too big and have too many colors for their sprite size and pallete so everything ends up looking really pixelated and muddy.

>> No.1713953

>>1713776
pointing it out is only going to make it more of a possibility you know.

>> No.1713965

>>1713703
now,my reaction when i saw a video game for the first time(SNES) was
>holy shit,is like a movie but you are the protagonist

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>>1713317

>> No.1713974

>>1713967
what even

also captcha

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>>1713974
forgot image... it was literally a space... I just had to press the spacebar once. It felt good.

>> No.1713989 [DELETED] 

Any game that isn't released this year has shit grafix XDDDDDDDDD

>> No.1714003

Final Fantasy VII had the McDonald's Toy Robot people that looked ridiculous even when the game came out.

>> No.1714085
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>>1713975
pass holder master race

>> No.1714095

NES games pre-Contra.

>> No.1714107

>>1713938
I agree that not only DKC but all games with prerendered CG sprites and backgrounds have aged terribly - but they were jaw-dropping impressive at their time.

Especially if like me you didn't realize concepts such as sprites and pre-render back then and used to think more or less that the SNES was basically rendering these graphics in real-time.

>> No.1714108

>>1713340
>implying everyone had the latest console

>> No.1714190

>>1713702
Do you have eyes?

Like, holy shit. If you think this game looks bad, either your eyes are fucked beyond belief or you have impossibly high standards.

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This piece of shit. No textures, it tries to be dark and brooding, and it has pixles up the arse.

>> No.1714247

What's with all the trolls on /vr/? This doesn't happen to often.

>> No.1714264
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Pic related.

Shame because the characters had great graphics (for the time) in-battle and in FMV scenes, but the way that all the characters and NPCs were blocky piles of crap during in map/towns was just fugly. It looks even worse against some of the nice environmental backgrounds. Makes me wonder why Square did that.

>> No.1714278

>>1714264
It was 3D SD. This was the first 3D Final Fantasy and they wanted the characters to look like they had in the other games up to that point. It didn't work out and from FF8 on they used regularly proportioned characters.

>> No.1714349

>>1714278
Surely anyone on that development team could have realized that the game looked retarded in the map/town world, right?

They should have used the battle renders of characters and NPCs.

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>>1713260
found him almost immediately. what the fuck is next to waldo is the better question

>> No.1714709

>>1713702
One of the best looking games on the Snes...

>>1714264
>Watch out for those pointy bits!

>> No.1714734
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>>1714264
I really, really like the overall look of FF7, especially the chibi look of the overworld models. But I'll never understand why people praise the FMV today like it's something special. It may have been an accomplishment when it was new, but it just doesn't look very good today while the rest of the game totally does to me. Pic related just gives me the creeps. The whole sequence does, really. And to me, that extra technical prowess doesn't amount to instant praise when it ultimately would have lasted better if it had been hand drawn or something. The 3D FMV sold damn well, and I know that's what they were going for, but it still bugs me.
Then again, people do mod in higher poly models for the overworld, which just looks awful to me. I guess I'm in the minority. Whatever.

>> No.1714758

>>1713717
if you're gonna say OoT was ugly at least post something ugly from it, like the Moblin models. OoT looks really good for most of the game, especially when it's in action

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>> No.1714797

>>1713260
more like what the fuck is waldo

>> No.1714850
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1714850

4-year old drew monster graphics in this game...

>> No.1714864

>>1714850
Graphics in pretty much all Moraff games bordered on bad.

>> No.1714883

>>1714787
that looks pretty cool in a tron way

>> No.1714889

>>1713702
Only shit graphics I see going on here is your filter. Turn off that 2xSal/Eagle/fucking whatever and stick to normal (or interpolated if smoothing is really that important to you)

>> No.1714907

>>1714883
Then watch it in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1FGK0FW2SQ

Admittedly though I was one of the odd people who liked Club Drive. It was pretty bad, but it let you roam around freely which is what I enjoyed.

>> No.1714913

>>1714907
hahaha, holy shit

why doesn't it have textures

>> No.1715490

>>1714907
if I see that fucking cat one more time

>> No.1715683

>>1714913
>Jaguar

Don't ask questions

>> No.1715692

>>1713717
the prerendered stuff looks pretty bad

>> No.1715745

>>1714850
>please copy and distribute

I refuse to do so.

>> No.1715752
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Donkey Kong Jr. on Intellivision. Could have been better, but it was made by Coleco who wanted to fuck Mattel over for better Colecovision sales.

>> No.1715757

>>1715752
everything on the intellivision looked like utter shit

>> No.1715764
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>>1715757
Not for the time. Their Pac-Man looked a lot better than the Atari 2600 version.

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>>1715752
"say that again motherfucker"

>> No.1715783
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>> No.1715786

>>1713967
what is even happening

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>>1713717
Ocarina of Time looks good though.

>> No.1716001

>>1714758
Yeah, it was much better looking than Fanboy Faggotry 7 when both games were new.

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>>1713301
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czY3JDaEpRA

>> No.1716262

>>1714095
They were a product of their time and a lot of them still look pleasing to the eye

>> No.1716272

>>1713303
You are a fucking idiotic faggot.

>> No.1716435

>>1713342
yes, he acts like a fucking cunt.

>> No.1716439

>>1716001
are you trying

>> No.1716464

>>1713703
Oh fuck I had these

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>>1714907
>That music

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>>1713702

>> No.1717031

>>1713301
#shotsfired

>> No.1717085

>>1715783
WTF at least post the saturn version

>> No.1717204

>>1714734

Opposite for me. The in game graphics are decent but the chibi style is not done terribly well

>> No.1717206

What's with all the trolls in here today? I bet it's one pissed off fanboy

>> No.1717209

Ah, glad to see this board has gone full >>/v/ retarded level.

>> No.1717225

>>1717209
We all thought we'd be immune to the summer, but it just wasn't meant to be.

>> No.1717250

>>1714349
the other problem there was the PS wasn't powerful enough to handle very many detailed models on-screen like that. There's a reason that they switched the game to have only three characters in the battle at once.

>> No.1717259

>>1715764
That is good. It's funny how Alien on the 2600 is a much better Pac-Man than the official Atari Pac-Man. Talk about a bum port.

>> No.1717263

>>1715783
If what >>1717085 says is true and this is the Genny version, then I'm damn impressed.

The Saturn version of VF2 really impressed me too. The models were at least as good as N64, and the textures were practically PS level.

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>>1716528
It's like I'm listening to some terrible midis of the Ohio Players piped through a cardboard tube.
No, Club Drive, I don't want want to ride your Love Rollercoaster.

>> No.1718953

>>1717263
uh dude what thats the arcade version. Im saying the arcade version looks okay but the saturn version looks like shit. lol if you think the genesis could do that

>> No.1718970
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I love this game, but the graphics were pretty bad.

>> No.1719962

>>1713938
spoken like a 12-year-old dweeb who has never played 16-bit consoles on an actual television. Don't judge a game by its ROM, sonny boy

>> No.1719978

>>1715683
Jaguar was capable of a lot more than that.

>> No.1721830

>>1714629
Not as simple as it might seem. I played it just a few minutes ago, clicked that same sprite, and it docked me some time because of it.

Turns out, you had to click his pants. Waldo is on Waldo's pants.

>> No.1721837

>>1714907
dat hot ass beat clap

dem samples

>> No.1721842

>>1714907
DAT CAT

>> No.1721885

>>1715764
I'd rather stare at a steaming bowl of shit than look at the injustice of the Atari 2600 Pac-Man. I remember the first time I played it and feeling bad for the people that probably bought this on day of release thinking they were going to get something close to the arcade experience.

>> No.1721892

>>1713260

hahaha

>> No.1721901

>>1721830

Or whose pants is Waldo into?

>> No.1722838

>>1713702
Oh hey. It's you again.
How's the fishing business going?
Using lots of bait, I see.

>> No.1723281

>>1713303
i never liked dkc country graphics, even as a kid, to me it looked like a bunch of badly cut photos overlayered

>> No.1723826

>>1713214
Don't be dissin' Bubsy boy

>> No.1723829

>>1713317
Is this what Hell looks like?

>> No.1723861

>>1714264
I agree 100%

These characters models break my hearth.

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>>1713301
Lier

>> No.1725371

>>1723281
It was the reason why I never played the games in the first place. It just looked so weird to me.

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>> No.1725385

>>1713301
That's just so wrong I can't even begin to explain things. My head hurts. I think I need to lay down.

>> No.1725387

>>1723281
protip: it was. They made the sprites by rendering mo-capped figurines, coloring/detailing them at each different frame of movement, then slapping them together into animations. Like Mortal Kombat but more intricate.

>> No.1725410

>>1715764
>Looks better than LITERAL ALPH4A CODE.

>> No.1725414

>>1716257
i don't see nothing wrong with the graphics... it's quite charming, actually

>> No.1725443

>>1713340

I'm only 23 you stupid fuck, and I grew up playing the Nes, Snes and genesis

Faggot

>> No.1726125

>>1715953
I think he's talking about the wolves specifically.

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>>1713214

>> No.1727302

>>1714907

this honestly looks fun

>> No.1727308

>>1714907
This is the next step in indie gaming, I'm calling it.

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>>1725387
>mo-capped figurines

>> No.1728915

>>1725443

Hand me downs. You're an exception not the rule

>> No.1728918

>>1728915
Him being 23 now doesn't make those hand me downs...

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>> No.1730439

>>1721885
Go to bed Mr. Rolfe

>> No.1731562

>>1713975
>>1714085
You do know you can type whatever you want into half of the captcha, right?

so if you have [blurry text] and then "cat" clear to read, you can type "nintendo" instead of "cat"

>> No.1731595 [DELETED] 

>>1713332
If you were alive in the 90s, you would ahve known, that there was no console war past 1995. Sony had an absolutely clear victory. Nothing else was even remotely close. Same happened in the 6th generation with PS2, which outsold everything by far.

The next console war after SNES vs. MegaDrive was the PS3 vs. Threeshitty. That was a real console war, even if they were actually fighting for the second place. The new generation will probably be a clear Sony victory too, because the Bone was such a fuck up, what with the ever-watching internet-enabled Microsoft camera you weren't allowed to switch off, that even Microsoft with all its budgeting had trouble marketing it for a while.

But PS1 vs. N64 vs. Saturn was not a console war. It was the PlayStation generation with two random secondary platforms for fanboys.

>> No.1731598

>>1723281
Which is was.

>> No.1731615

>>1715783
For some reason I love the way old 3D games like that look.

>> No.1731630

>>1731595

Nah, there was Xbox vs PS2 and N64 vs PS1. Even if Sony was winning in sales there was the question which was the 'superior' system.

>> No.1731683

>>1731615
"Low poly art" is the phrase you want to search.

>> No.1731730

>>1731595
>there was no console war
>asserts PS1 was superior to the N64 and Saturn in every way

Looks like you're still fighting in it, anon.

>> No.1731757

>>1731595
I still think "console wars" are better than "clear victories" simply because two companies, that are about equal, are in an arms race to produce the best games. Too bad Nintendo will never be in such a position ever again.

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>>1716257
>N64 can't even do 2D sprite based games at 60 FPS

>> No.1731781

>>1731630
>Xbox vs PS2
What happened to Gamecube? The difference in sales between it and the Xbox were marginal at best.

>> No.1731794

>>1731781
It was shunned and mocked by most of the industry.

>> No.1731850
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Im sure we all remeber this gem.. The arcade version was fine for the time but this...

>> No.1731891

>>1731781
The difference was like 3 or 4 million.

Really though, if you combined Xbox, Gamecube, AND Dreamcast into one "team", PS2 still won easily.

>> No.1731939

>>1718953
He probably meant with the 32X attachment.

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>>1713301
#notrekt
#notevenmad
#ThisIsNot/v/WeDon'tGetMadThatEasily

>> No.1731947

>>1731939
32X isn't just an attachment, it's essentially a whole new console.

>> No.1731950

>>1731947
Yeah, but you attach it to the Genesis.

>> No.1731957

>>1731947
32x only had about 48 games, they even in a desperate attempt to make it NOT look like a piece of shit, let you play your 16-bit genesis games on it. It's not an attachment or a console. It's life support. Life support to increase the life of the aging Sega Genesis.

>> No.1731961

>>1731943
>one of a handful of64 games that doesn't either look or run like shit
>came out in fucking 2001

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>>1713304
>>1713679
ps1 has a lot of really nice looking games on it despite it's weak-ass hardware because

>pre-rendered backgrounds
>way more people made games for it, letting people who would put in a lot more work into their artstyle make games

You start out with battle arena toshinden "everything is a half textured polygon" bullshit and end up with games like this that look pretty close to an early ps2 game

I mean jesus, just compare ff7 with ff8/9, shit still holds up

>> No.1731976

>>1731957
I'm talking in terms of hardware.

>> No.1732013

>>1713342
add me, n64 was a puke.

>> No.1732020

>>1713332
we already have a containment board for 90s flamewar shitposting, its called >>>/reddit/, the problem is, we don't ban people who break the yet to be made rule.

>> No.1732040

>>1731850
no, you are too old.

>> No.1732041 [DELETED] 

>>1732020
stop using "we" word u lonely cunt.

>> No.1732060

>>1713214
>ITT: Games with bad graphics
What is: Everything on /vr/

>> No.1732061

>>1714241
Fuck you, the paddles are ultra-realistic, the dotted line is the little fence, and the sides are lines on tennis court. I remember seeing that for the first time,
>woah, it's like real tennis

>> No.1732064

>>1732060
no shit sherlock, we can only talk about games up till the year 1999, what did you honestly expect? OP means graphics bad even for the year it was released.

>> No.1732067

>>1732061
Are you 70?

>> No.1732068

Artstyle > Graphics
no one ITT seems to get this and just posts anyhting like OoT or mario

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>>1732068
A lot of the posts in this thread are bait posts.

>> No.1732071

>>1732064
I thought I was being incredibly obvious that I was joking.

>> No.1732078

>>1732069
a lot of the posters reply to anyhting

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http://odysseyreborn.com/

>> No.1732468

>>1732040
underage b&

>> No.1732627

>>1714907
>that fucking glorious soundtrack

>> No.1732638
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>>1725414
It's a counter point to inform the public that the N64 was capable of things other than jagged polygons with low res textures. WPJ2 is adorable and I love it.

>> No.1732669

>>1728920

Tfw still never finished it. It hurts to live

>> No.1733569

>>1731595
>The next console war after SNES vs. MegaDrive was the PS3 vs. Threeshitty. That was a real console war, even if they were actually fighting for the second place.

I don't even know how people managed to fight over those. At least the SNES and Genesis were like polar opposites with each other but the 360 and PS3 were nearly the same systems with very few exclusives to each worth mentioning.

>> No.1733572

>>1728915
They were still making Genesis consoles and games up until like 97. It's not unlikely for him to grow up with them, hell my local video store used to have Genesis and SNES games to rent until like 2003.

>> No.1733584

>>1731943
God damn that game has better reflection in that puddle than most games that came out this gen.

>> No.1734676

>>1727308
Backgrounds actually look good though.

>> No.1734695

>>1714907
>drive into the fireplace to find the castle in Scotland

this checks out.

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>>1713303

>> No.1734961

All the games you like

>> No.1734963

Ff7

>> No.1734964

>>1731943
>20 frames per second

>> No.1734973

>>1715953
Problem with OoT is that they were focused too much on making it look good, instead of actually making a fun game.

It's just a virtual tour through an interactive theme park, where you ooh and aah at pretty lights and colors.

>> No.1734974

>>1734961
reft

>> No.1734978

>>1719962
>it looks good if you obscure it with faulty hardware, and squint your eyes and ignore how awful it looks

Oh, okay.

>> No.1734982

>>1734973
no it isn't. oot is actually kinda ugly sometimes, its the gameplay and dungeon design that make it good.

>> No.1734991

>>1719962
i was talking based on an actual crt. i owned both dkc and dkc 2 as a kid and never thought they were that good looking. the forest and snow levels look nice though iirc. and goddamn seriously fuck vr's stuckup attitude where if you dont like a part of a game youre immediately an ignorant 12 year old.

>> No.1734994

>>1734982
>OoT dungeon design
>good

Oh wow I can't wait to push more blocks along tracks, and hit switches with my bow and arrow! What gripping, engaging gameplay!

>> No.1735003

>>1734994
go away egoraptor. there was like two of those giant block pushing puzzles and god forbid the game take advantage of being 3d by making you look around a room sometimes for a switch.

>> No.1735007
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>>1715692
>prerendered stuff

>OoT

u wut mate?

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>>1713702
>>1713303
>>1713717
>>1714264

>> No.1735029

>>1735026
the only one there thats objectively wrong is the yoshi's island one

>> No.1735040

>>1735007
>What is Castle Town and several houses?

>> No.1735057

>>1734982
>gameplay

what gameplay, the running through an empty field, the constant waiting for enemies to show their vulnerable animation while you fight them, or is it the mundane tasks that you are forced to complete before you can actually go do what you want to be doing?

>> No.1735063

>>1735003
>making you look around sometimes
it was all the time multiple times every dungeon. I'm not the guy you are arguing with but he has a point.

>> No.1735078

>>1735057
>recycling egoraptor's shitty opinions
>what is epona/ocarina warping
>wah wah why cant i button mash to kill the enemies i'm too adhd for strategy
>literally getting a letter the game explicitly tells you to get which doesn't even take that long and is important to the story and the game anyway considering its the point where you get zelda's lullaby

all your points are retarded. quit being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.

>> No.1735080

>>1735057
>>1735063
So tell me.... What DOES Egoraptor's dick taste like?

>> No.1735104

>>1735078
>>1735080
I wish this egoraptor guy would stop talking about games because he seems to descredit any legitimate point that is brought up by you retards HURRR DURR EGORAPTOR SAID ITS BAD SO THAT MEANS ITS GOOD.

>> No.1735112

>>1735078
>waiting
>strategy
nice try kid, so you are telling em the strategy for every enemy in the game is to wait for your oppurtunity, that isn't fucking strategy it's a test on patience. Waiting for stalfos to stop blocking is not a strategy you little faggot.

>> No.1735113

>>1735104
I'm more intrigued by these people who hate Egoraptor but know literally every thing he's ever said.

I don't watch any of his vids so I don't know his criticisms/praises for games. But apparently all these guys who hate his guts do. It's bizarre.

>> No.1735124

>>1735112
iirc the only enemies that were even like that were those lizard things and the stalfos and the lizard would jump around you and slash and the stalfos would do a jump attack so its more about avoding those then just waiting for an oppurtunity, and even then i think you can provoke the stalfos to attack by hitting his shield. but w/e youre probably just going to keep up with this underaged strawman /vr/ meme and recycle ego's arguments even more
>>1735113
i don't hate egoraptor and don't have a problem with his animations or his other sequelitis videos, i just don't like this new one he made and how his obnoxious fanboys are going to rehash his stupid, nitpicky arguments just because he said them.

>> No.1735125

>>1735104
I've watched only a few things of the guys and completely disagree with almost everything he says.

>> No.1735126

>>1735113
when you are a neckbeard neet you have nothing better to do I guess.

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>>1735126
>neckbeard accusations
>on /vr/

>> No.1735136

>>1735125
why? are you letting "muh emotions" get involved

>> No.1735137

>>1735124
>nitpicky arguments just because he said them.

But how do you know they got the opinions from him...?

Nigga's talking about 20 year old video games and you really think he's the first person to have thought the things he thought?

>> No.1735142

>>1735137
kinds funny that a day after it was released people just happen to be saying the exact same things he says in his video. especially considering theyre not even very good arguments against the game.

>> No.1735145

>>1735124
OoT is so rediculously easy though there is no actual dangerous situations. Like when you do fight those lizards you just block them sure you hear shields bang and swords clash and it sounds impressive but as long as you keep holding R there is no real danger. I wish the game would just throw more of those enemies at you so you are getting your ass handed to you if you don't move in the right patterens.

I hope egoraptor didn't say that so I am not discredited

>> No.1735147

>>1735142
That doesn't really mean anything, honestly.

Also, I'm still curious as to why you're so familiar with this content.

>> No.1735148

>>1735142
Okay fuck off right there, I have been saying how boring OoT is for months now, you only notice it now because some youtube whore you hated rustled your jimmies.

>> No.1735150

>>1735145
well yeah if youre just holding r like a boring faggot the combat is going to be boring. i'm not saying oot has the best combat but goddamn if its problems arent overstated.

>> No.1735153

>>1735147
i watched it fucking once for christ's sake, its not hard to remember his points when he drills it into your head for half an hour and if i did hate him the fact that i know about him would just give me more legitimate reasons to not like him so why are you acting like its hypocritical or something

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>> No.1735208

>egoraptor

playing the devils advocate here, what is objectively wrong about his statements? I know he exagerates and can be a bit of a retard sometimes but was there honestly anything he said that was objectively untrue or wrong?

>> No.1735258

>>1713662
Photosourced textures before they became a selling point. Love it.

>> No.1735269

>>1725384
shut the fuck up motherfucker jesus i am mad

>> No.1735316

>>1735208
Try his entire opinion on horror games for starters, or even the fact his obvious ADHD keeps him from assessing anything properly that isn't near the speed of Megaman X.

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>>1735136
Not who you're replying to but the guy doesn't know shit about what he's talking about. He nitpicks little things that he personally doesn't like and considers his opinions to be objective flaws. He puts his subjective perception and claims it's objective, when it's not. And you're a fucking sheep for consuming all his opinions and letting it mold your brain.

>> No.1735375
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D-Force for the SNES: Mode 7 abuse at its worst. Also one of the worst shmups for that system.

>> No.1735381

>>1735208
There's nothing objectively wrong with his statements because his statements are all subjective opinions. The only thing I consider wrong is him taking those opinions and stating them as objective flaws in the game.

>Z-Targeting creates a rift between exploration and fighting
Okay, maybe to you it does, but it never did to me nor anyone I know.
>There's so much waiting in OOT
No there isn't. Maybe sometimes the travel cutscenes are a bit tedious, but if you consider OOT to have a lot of waiting then you have mental problems.

>> No.1735382

>>1735375
Still screenshots do not do D-Force's ugliness justice. It has to be seen in motion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEN1WkuoXss

>> No.1735391

tekken

the cutscenes were even worse and those were just video files

>> No.1735431

>>1731562
Don't do this ever if you know what it is.

Recaptcha is made to help archive texts IIRC. If you type in that shit, you could be one of the millions of faggots that just put "trololo" in a very historically important document transcription.

Bascially Recaptcha is a method to turn freeloaders into a free OCR service.

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>>1735382
>That music

>> No.1735564

>>1731943
The problem I had with that game is most of the time everything that was rendered was either supposed to be shit or another dirty surface like dirt.
The only time the game really excelled in visuals was at the very end during the Matrix fight, when gameplay took a turn for the worse.

>> No.1735570

>>1735382
Jesus christ those sprites are mediocre at best, and at their worst...
>dat water
>that shading
>and everything has to zoom IN and OUT and FLIP ABOUT
Hold me I'm scared.

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>>1713214
I loved Metal Gear Solid, but I was very disappointed when I saw peoples faces. I remember going "oh my god it's Metal Gear Rex" and it was the fucking size of three CRT's combined. But I remember fighting Raven and his face was just dreadful, and not to forget snake's face. Yes his breath in the cold air was cool to see but his face just was not. That being said I did NOT like Twin Snakes.

>> No.1735694

>>1714850
I still loved this game though.

>> No.1735728
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Pretty much every 3D N64 game.
I love the system to death, but even the visually best games on the system look like ass due to the horrendous texture resolution.

Every game with large open areas makes me think I've forgotten to put my glasses on.

>> No.1735730

>>1713702
gr8 b8 m8

>> No.1735757

>>1735582
You know that bugged me at first but its kid of like the concept art style which is kind of freeflowing. It could be a little clearerer or animated but given it would probably look just as bad with a contemporary psone bitmap texture face, I kind of admire the way it is.

>> No.1735776

>>1734978
>cheap LCDs existed in the 90s, that's why they used them during development

>> No.1735782

>>1735136
>no reply
musta seen the new sequelitis, and shortly an heroed after the opening

>> No.1735817

>>1735776
As someone who played the original DKCs, no, they just look bad.

>> No.1735830

>>1735078
>>1735080
Egoraptor has nothing to do with it. I've been saying that shtuff for years. I even coined the term, "Ocarina of Wasting Time."

As in, it's a waste of time to go all the way to Kakariko Village, then realize you have to run halfway across the world to get permission to climb Death Mountain.

Let me guess, did Egoraptor say that too? Because it's a pretty obvious observation to make.

>> No.1735989

>>1735817
I'm just going to assume you have no clue what makes CRTs and LCDs different, picture wise. as someone who ALSO FUCKING OWNS A SNES YOU THICK FUCK, the image looks fine. no sharp edges.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIVwXBvMdNk

>> No.1736427

>>1735830
maybe you should stop being an adhd phaggot and go to hyrule castle like the game explicitly tells you to do

>> No.1736461

>>1736286

Graphx seems okay in this game.

>> No.1736478

>>1735728

That's the problem I had. It had twice the graphical capabilities over the Playstation, but practically everything looked mediocre. At least we got to see the capabilities when the DS was released. >>1731965 gives a good explanation as to why Playstation games looked consistently better than the N64s.

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This came out in 2001. Even then I thought it looked like shit.

>> No.1736515

>>1735142
>Availability heuristic
>Confirmation bias

There are probably others.

>> No.1736615
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Ugly sprites, ugly environments, ugly art style, ugly color palette. You can't see it, but ugly, over-produced CD music, too.

Crappy sequel to a great game that had graphics that looked very appealing, if slightly out of date.

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Even though the 3D graphics are bad, I think it's very impressive for early Mega Drive tech.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=yND5V85iPHc#t=193

>> No.1736918

>>1736478
The N64 had a RAM access bottleneck that forced compromises between things that normally don't affect each other; it had no separate video ram, instead it used unified system RAM which would have been bizarre even for simpler consoles a generation previous.

It's funny, the DS is a weaker machine overall so DS games have to load much smaller environments and fewer models, but DS textures blow N64's the fuck out by a huge margin. Which you couldn't reasonably be expected to SEE at 256x192 a lot of the time. When emulating, increasing internal resolution of 5th gen games almost always looks like garbage, but for DS games it shows detail that wasn't even visible! Fucking Nintendo.

>> No.1737258

>>1713702
Kill yourself.

>> No.1737271

>>1726704
is that prince of persia

>> No.1737279

>>1736286
The graphics are alright. The music however is fucking atrocious.

>> No.1737284
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http://youtu.be/whTfI-lK36c?t=1m7s

>> No.1737302

>>1737271
It looks like the SNES version

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>>1728915
>Hand me downs

>> No.1737330

>>1737302
No, that's not the SNES version. The SNES version looks great, that one looks like a travesty...

>> No.1737576

>>1728915
They're more like "Rule 2" rather than "Rule 1 Exception" at this point.
Lots of people grew up with the previous generation since they were cheaper.
They weren't hand-me-downs.

>> No.1737637

>>1737330
Yeah, it's probably a bootleg or a romhack.

>> No.1737939

>>1735830
>I even coined the term, "Ocarina of Wasting Time."
Damn, anon. You're clever.

>> No.1737947

>>1728915
I'm 25 and I grew up on the genesis and PSX, how retarded are you?

>> No.1737960

>>1737939
he's a really big deal on the internet

>> No.1737963

>>1735382
i love how the intro is a rip-off from DK94

>> No.1738084

>>1715764
Is it just me or does anyone else see depth in the bottom image? All the sprites are popping out at me so clearly...

>> No.1738305

>>1728915

Several folks on /vr/ are young but grew up on older consoles.
I am no exception.

>20 years old
>NES->GEN->SMS->PS1->SNES->N64

Got a "current generation" console in 2009.

>> No.1738319

Nearly every 3D retro game.

>> No.1738353

>>1725384
For some reason the Driver games still look more "realistic" to me than a current open world game. They're not overproduced and it's like a pointalist painting where all the chunky jagged pixels add up to a seemingly photorealistic image. Your mind basically fills in the missing info.

>> No.1739113

>>1738353
the ui tho

>> No.1741286

>>1731850
Is that some HARD DRIVING? 'Cause I know that game got me particularly hard.

>> No.1741305
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>>1738319
This still look amazing.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5pw0CdPYCE

>> No.1741319

>>1735382
it's like a crappy bootleg of space megaforce

>> No.1741325

>>1741315
The game LOOKS cool at least.

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>>1741315

>> No.1741441

>>1725387
except mortal kombat looked good, and also the doom sprites that were models, dkc looked bad because of all the jagged and poor cutted edges

>> No.1741490

>>1741315
This honestly doesn't look worse than any of the other 90's 3D prerendered stuff of the time. Have you played the original Myst?

I can certainly understand you disagreeing with the art style, but that is another matter.

>> No.1742276

>>1741441
It also had that early prerendered sin of everything looking like stitched together polished metal spheres.

>> No.1742487
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UEDW1SIcB0

>> No.1742992 [DELETED] 

>>1713301
3D PS1 games look way worse tho

>> No.1743021

>>1714787
thanks doc

>> No.1746613
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1746613

Not necessarily "bad" graphics, but something about the high saturation of color in old-school DOS platformers just doesn't sit well with me. Still great games, though.

>> No.1746643

>>1742487
i love the residents

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>> No.1749008

>>1735431
It can't be helped, I remember there was a lot people on here that went out of their way to to type nigger in their captcha so it would show up in transcriptions.

I personally just mash buttons, so you can partially blame me for when biblical transcriptions sound like

"Then God said, "Let there be niggers"; and there was niggers. God saw that the niggers was sedfgnwea"

>> No.1749020

>>1713303

IMO, DKC was trying too hard. It squeezed everything it could out of the SNES, but that just makes me wish it was on the PS1.

>> No.1749043

>>1746613
I thought the original duke nukem games had pretty good graphics for DOS.

>> No.1749205

>>1714247
/b/ is raiding it

>> No.1749229

>>1714907
that actually looks pretty fun

>> No.1749429

>>1737284
This game looks like a ton of fun. I'ma try it.

>> No.1749454

>>1713214
>ITT: Games with bad graphics
what is every retro game ever lol

>> No.1749459
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>>1715752

We did a Video Game House of Horrors one Halloween at school. 13 of the worst games with some of the worst graphics ever made. Once you went in you couldn't leave until you played all 13 games for 5 minutes each.

And honeslty Intellivision DK was probably one of the better games.

Pic? Oh, just the ugliest stain on PC gaming.

>> No.1749484

>>1737284
>http://youtu.be/whTfI-lK36c?t=1m7s
>16 laps left
fuuuck

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>>1713214
The original Tekken was pretty rough.

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>>1749616

>> No.1750000

>>1725384
it was good for the time, esp considering that it was an open world driving game on the psx

>> No.1750178
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1750178

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfYO04EA6Hs

>> No.1750213

>>1735382
lol holy shit it's like something i would slap together in rpg maker as a teen

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>>1716257
>Dat animation

I need to play this.

>> No.1750315

>>1749459

Game was totally current when it was new, looked as good as other pc games at the time, short draw distance, good art direction, varied environments, i liked it. Then again I also liked Ultima IX, game was beautiful, also had a huge world, beat the hell out of Elder Scrolls until morrowind came out, had a few bugs but whatever :p

>> No.1750337

>>1731850
>>1741286
Do you remember Stunts? How many car launchers did you build using the large hill level combined with ramps, elevated bridges, and loops? Ahhhh yes, the days of flying Formula 1.

>> No.1750340

>>1735382
Goddamn, Tiger Heli for the NES looks better than that shit--plays better too. Better music as well.

>> No.1750836

>>1713702
I agree

>> No.1750896
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>>1746613
Good remark.The EGA standard is the main culprit, as most of the 64 available colors, are saturated.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Graphics_Adapter

>> No.1751331

>>1750896
>Wolfenstein was going to be EGA
>This is why everything's blue and gross

>> No.1751336

>>1750896
Agreed. I really dislike EGA, and platforms with similar color schemes (Master System comes to mind).

>> No.1751372

>>1735382
>Hey this doesn't look so ba-
>It zooms in
>That dinosaur boss with a head at a different resolution than his body

Yikes.

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>>1715752
Atari version looked worse.

>> No.1751559
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45Z-Q5KVTyI

>> No.1752492

>>1716257
She's cute. Very, very cute.

>> No.1752572

>>1714907
Jaguar: Atari does what Nintendoesn't want to

>> No.1752595

>>1714247
the kids from /v/ finally noticed we exist.

if you guys arent going to fuck off at least pretend to be an adult while you are here

>> No.1752616

>>1742487
Other people remember this? Aw shit.

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