/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1710743]

Why is this front-end exclusive to Mac? Why hasn't anyone tried to make a Windows version?

It looks so fucking good but I don't want to use a terrible OS just to get at it. Surely someone could use Microsoft Frameworks or something to make something like it, right?

It really pains me not being able to computer.

[Anonymous No.1710752]

There's someone doing a frontend in this style for RetroArch. Should amount to roughly the same thing.

[Anonymous No.1710756]

>>1710743
Why do you believe Mac OS is a terrible OS?

[Anonymous No.1710768]

>>1710756
No games.

[Anonymous No.1710778]

>>1710743

I don't think Mac has a terrible OS by any means. Only reason I don't use it is because I'm not too keen on dropping the kind of money they want for the machine it runs on.

[Anonymous No.1710779]

>>1710768
I don't mean to tread into /v/ territory here, but not nowadays anymore.

Almost all games in the /vr/ can be run through various means, and past that nearly the only things that don't port to Mac are your mainstream AAA CoD.

It's easy to play games on OSX.

[Anonymous No.1710784]

>>1710779
Well, that could be true, but holy shit this

>>1710778

€1600 just for a nice front-end? Seems a bit much.

[Anonymous No.1710790]

>>1710743
Hu ? Just use windows, and put a shortcut of your games with Retroarch. Like this retroarch.exe -file sonic.md
for instance

[Anonymous No.1710795]

>>1710790
Yeah but game covers and shit

[Anonymous No.1710812]

Okay. Just wanted to know why tis is a terrible OS but as it turns out, it's not about the OS but about the games.

Actually, there are a few kick-ass retro games that were only available on Mac OS.

>Marathon anyone?

[Anonymous No.1710824]

>>1710812
also on pc though.

[Anonymous No.1710825]

>>1710756
He's either ignorant or its bait.

[Anonymous No.1710840]

>>1710824
Not at the time it came out. It's on PC now thanks to an open source project called Aleph One.

[Anonymous No.1710845]

>>1710825
Why am I ignorant?

Explain what makes Mac OS a terrible OS.

[Anonymous No.1710846]

>>1710840
And Doom was DOS only when it came out.`

[Anonymous No.1710847]

>>1710840
>Not at the time it came out.
yeah, but it has been time now. I know we are on vr, but we are still in 2014.

[Anonymous No.1710848]

>>1710743
My OpenEMU looks like shit. No game covers, and all the games are named as their shitty file names. I don't feel like going through 900+ games, changing AdvLolo to "The Adventures of Lolo."

I have a softmodded Wii anyway, so it's not like I have much use for the program.

[Anonymous No.1710853]

>>1710848
pic

[Anonymous No.1710856]

>>1710847
Yeah. I'm saying this because we are on /vr/

Apart from that, there's no reason to get a 20 year old Mac if you want to play Marathon, unless you want to have the genuine feel.

[Anonymous No.1710860]

>>1710848
>>1710853
wtf

[Anonymous No.1710861]

>>1710743
>Castelvania
>Clasics
>Of with capital O
>Brothers instead of Bros.
every time.

[Anonymous No.1710868]

this whole thread...

my sides

[Anonymous No.1710873]

>>1710868
What's so funny about it bro

[Anonymous No.1710875]

>>1710778
Have you used it? I was pretty neutral on it until I had to work with OSX. No right click, very limited programs when compared to Windows, no customization at all, terrible interface. It seemed to want to do everything for me, and often that screwed things up for what I was doing. It looks nice, but that's about it. Maybe I'm just too used to Windows, but it's no contest for me at all.

On-topic though, are there good standalone emulators for mac?

[Anonymous No.1710878]

>>1710861
Yeah and who gives "Castelvania" three stars out of five?

[Anonymous No.1710895]

>>1710875
>No right clicks

Have you even tried right-clicking

>Very limited programs

Even if true, what's that got to do with the OS?

>seemed to want to do everything for me

like what? clean up your desktop? actaully, that's what I feel like when I work with windows

Anyway: there are good standalone mulators for Macs, but only for the older RISC-based and the even older 68k-based machines.
Look for Sheepshaver.

[Anonymous No.1710912]

>>1710895
>Even if true, what's that got to do with the OS?
well...

[Anonymous No.1710923]

>>1710795
Just like this.

[Anonymous No.1710924]

>>1710912
well... it's bullshit. Right?

[Anonymous No.1710926]

>>1710924
Apple shoul blame themselves for that.
Anyway, it's not a thread about them.

[Anonymous No.1710932]

>>1710926
Yeah, this is getting pretty stupid imho

[Anonymous No.1710945]

>>1710878

Maybe it's the emulation status?

[Anonymous No.1710951]

>>1710923
>genesis covers mixed with megadrive

You disgust me. Also how?

[Anonymous No.1710960]

>>1710923
>desktop in francais is caled bureau

ahahahahahahah

Just when I started to forget you guys called the Pc ordinateur.

[Anonymous No.1710976]

>>1710960
>Just when I started to forget you guys called the Pc ordinateur.

Damn you, godless saxon!

[Anonymous No.1710983]

>Why is this front-end exclusive to Mac?
this is the only good thing OS X has exclusively for emulation. And it kind of sucks. It's pretty, but too simplified: there's no integer scaling option, for example. The cover-art download doesn't work as well (I think they switched providers or something) as you'd think.
It'll probably get better someday, and then OS X will finally have a decent collection of emulators. Right now though, you're probably better off hooking up RetroArch to Frontspin or something.

[Anonymous No.1710986]

>>1710923
how is that burning force game? im interested but i've never heard a thing about it. is it good? is it comparable in quality to namco's phelios?

[Anonymous No.1710994]

>>1710951
No seriously how do you do that or is it just a mockup? I NEED TO KNOW

[Anonymous No.1711001]

>>1710994
What ? Just use 256x256 icon
and do the shortcut like that.
That's it.

[Anonymous No.1711002]

>>1710951
I like some american cover more, and some european one more.

[Anonymous No.1711006]

>>1710960
>>1710976
samefag

[Anonymous No.1711014]

>>1711001
Oh my fucking god thank you so much

[Anonymous No.1711017]

>>1710976

Wrong nation, I shit closer to the pope than you'll ever will, deal with it.

[Anonymous No.1711029]

>suddenly, applefag and int

[Anonymous No.1711046]

>>1710875
>No right click
this is bullshit, even mighty mouses can right click, and even if you are stuck with a stone-age one-button mouse for whatever reason ctrl+click is the same thing
just use a damn windows mouse or actually learn how to use the trackpad

>very limited programs when compared to Windows
this isn't true unless you're working in some specialized industry or a niche hobbyist. OS X applications are generally better than Windows in appearance and functionality. the only problem is that they often cost money in places where a windows program might be free and then they're usually expensive, which isn't an issue if you crack everything

>no customization at all
this is straight up bullshit, I'll tell you now I can do more "customization" in OS X than in Windows.

>It seemed to want to do everything for me, and often that screwed things up for what I was doing.
that's such a general statement that it's a waste of text

[Anonymous No.1711051]

>>1711046
No but seriously OSX is shit. I use it sometime at work, and
>this isn't true unless you're working in some specialized industry or a niche hobbyist.
is such a denial it's not funny.

>reason ctrl+click
it's retarded. And >trackpad

>this is straight up bullshit, I'll tell you now I can do more "customization" in OS X than in Windows.
Keep dreamind, OSX is closed as fuck, it's really like you were on a console.

[Anonymous No.1711054]

>>1711046
>Free software ? OSX have them too, you just have to pirate them!

[Anonymous No.1711095]

>>1711051
>is such a denial it's not funny.
okay then shithead what do you need that you can't use on OS X
>it's retarded. And >trackpad
I'm not psychic I don't know what you're using I'm just covering that you're retarded whether you use a mouse or a trackpad because they're both usable and have been since forever
>Keep dreamind, OSX is closed as fuck, it's really like you were on a console.
if you're arguing that Windows is more open then you've already lost
>>1711054
>Free software
>>>/g/

[Anonymous No.1711102]

It's not retro but there's a front end like that for PCSX2, it's called PCSX2Bonus IIRC, and due to the way PCSX2 works it also lets you setup different setups and memory cards for any different game.

[Anonymous No.1711117]

>>1710743
RetroArch is what I use on Windows 8. OpenEmu is what I use on Mac. If you don't have a Mac, use RetroArch (which was extremely easy for me to use), no need to complain about the OS it runs on.

>>1710860
>>1710848
I don't have this problem. The covers and names even loaded for their regions.

>>1711051
>Keep dreamind, OSX is closed as fuck
It's more open than Windows without any need for 3rd party software, if Windows is what you're using as a comparison.

[Anonymous No.1711134]

I just wish you could use controllers with the interface. Otherwise it makes for a great emulated-games-on-TV solution.

No matter, a good library interface will make it's way to RetroArch eventually.

[Anonymous No.1711139]

>>1711117
>That cum-blasted shine on every game icon

[Anonymous No.1711140]

fun fact: MVB is one of the devs.

[Anonymous No.1711174]

emuControlCenter

[Anonymous No.1711268]

>not using openbsd
>mfw

[Anonymous No.1711453]

>>1710845
Not you. The one claiming OS X is a terrible OS is either ignorant or its bait.

[Anonymous No.1711476]

>>1711117
>without any need for 3rd party software
This is the biggest crock of shit. OS X users use more 3rd party software to augment the OS than anyone else, I learned this when I bought a mac 4-5 years ago and learned the hard way.

[Anonymous No.1711781]

>>1711476
Because some do doesn't mean you have to use 3rd party software.

Again, if you're comparing to Windows, then you can quit embarrassing yourself, because Windows isn't any closer to being "open" as you're making it out to be.

>>1711139
Some people just can't let the Jobs era go I guess. When Yosemite comes out, it's going to stick out like a sore thumb.

[Anonymous No.1711845]

The bash terminal alone makes OSX far more functional than Windows ever could be.

[Anonymous No.1711959]

>>1711845
the bash terminal's the only good part about osx

[Anonymous No.1712119]

>>1711095
>if you're arguing that Windows is more open then you've already lost
hu ? It's a given that Windows is more open than OSX.

[Anonymous No.1712127]

>>1711095
>okay then shithead what do you need that you can't use on OS X
games, emulator, not being stuck with my portable HDdrive because it's in ntfs, a real version of Artisteer and not a beta, Paintool Sai, Loopmaster, Krita gemini, Magix audio & Lab, RPG Maker, etc.

[Anonymous No.1712132]

>>1711095
bandicam.

[Anonymous No.1712134]

>>1710778
You can always hackintosh.

[Anonymous No.1712151]

>>1711174
Jesus, that thing is ugly as sin.

[Anonymous No.1712407]

How have you faggots not heard of LaunchBox?
http://www.launchbox-app.com/about

[Anonymous No.1712515]

>>1710873
well since some janitor/mod deleted my post I'll tell you why it's funny. I've been emulating on Mac for years and 99% of the time this argument is the exact opposite.

Try finding a good PC-98 emulator for Mac or Using Kega and finding out the mac version doesn't support mp3 and all the dumps of ISO's for sega cd you have are in mp3, so you have to edit the ISO, replace the mp3 with wav and edit the cue sheet... and unless you want to build your own version of Mame, you're also stuck with an older build that won't play games now marked as "working"

It's amusing to see someone actually say they want to emulate on a Mac cause "it looks nicer"

Functionality is what's most important and sadly windows has Mac beat on that when it comes to emulators. Hell half of the mac ones don't even support screenshots, recording avi's or wav's from the games.

[Anonymous No.1712625]

>>1712119
It really does sound stupid to defend Windows in being more open in comparison to OS X, or any nix OS.

>>1712127
>games
Seeing recent releases of great games on OS X, I'm starting to think developers are more at fault than Apple for this one. Sure, Apple was behind on what Windows had to offer, but that's not so true anymore.

>emulator
What thread are you posting in right now?

>ntfs
Get a new one for cheap or format it, not a big deal.

>Artiseer
Don't even know what that is.

>Loopmaster
Are these samples? Loops? There are tons of alternatives.

>Krita
No comment.

>Magix
There are so many alternatives to this it's not even funny.

>Paintool Sai
There are alternatives.

>RPG Maker
Drop it and use better software. One of the biggest pieces of shit I've ever used.

I'm not sure why you're complaining about an OS that you don't have to use if you don't want to. Stick with Windows or switch to Mac...or use both. Everyone has their preference and no one is forcing you to do anything.

[Anonymous No.1712637]

>>1710778
>no right click
I've been right clicking away on OS X without any problems.

>no customization
/g/ desktop threads will prove otherwise.

>standalone emulators
Any of the ones supported by OpenEmu are bound to be supported on Mac. So VisualBoyaAdvance, Higan, GenesisPlus (and the other Sega emulator that starts with a K that I can't remember the name of), Mednefen, PSXR, etc.

>>1712515
MAME is up-to-date on Mac without having to build it. The reason why they don't support the screenshots or recording is because OS X has software that's built in to do that, as well as free alternatives that do a better job than the emulator's would.

>It's amusing to see someone actually say they want to emulate on a Mac cause "it looks nicer"

What is "it"? The computer? The front-end? I don't think the point of the front-end was as much to look nice as it was to be convenient.

[Anonymous No.1712676]

>>1712625
Hu ? I'd rather use retroarch or any equivalent than OpenEmu.

[Anonymous No.1712679]

>>1712625
>Get a new one for cheap or format it, not a big deal.
yes it is.

>Don't even know what that is.
sorry if I do, me.

>There are alternatives.
Good, but I'm sued to Paintool SAI

>Drop it and use better software. One of the biggest pieces of shit I've ever used.
great argument.

[Anonymous No.1712686]

>>1712637
>MAME is up-to-date on Mac without having to build it.

For someone still running Leopard? I can't even run program in OP's picture because it's only for Mac OSX 10.7 or above. The 2 programs I use for Mame are both out of dev it seems.

>What is "it"? The computer? The front-end? I don't think the point of the front-end was as much to look nice as it was to be convenient.

The front end. The front end looking nicer (and having a more functional layout then others) However that's subjective to taste and debatable I suppose.

[Anonymous No.1712724]

>>1712679
>Good, but I'm sued to Paintool SAI
>yes it is.
>sorry if I do, me.
>great argument

And again, anon:
>I'm not sure why you're complaining about an OS that you don't have to use if you don't want to. Stick with Windows or switch to Mac...or use both. Everyone has their preference and no one is forcing you to do anything.

[Anonymous No.1712727]

>>1710743
>knowing asolutely nothing about Meedio or XBMC

[Anonymous No.1712735]

>>1712686
No, I guess not for Leopard.

>>1712676
Then use RetroArch.

>>1712679
I dealt with the NTFS hardrive thing when I got a Macbook as a gift and transferred everything fine. Not sure why this is an issue for you.

[Anonymous No.1712737]

>>1712735
>I dealt with the NTFS hardrive thing when I got a Macbook as a gift and transferred everything fine. Not sure why this is an issue for you.
Because we shouldn't have to deal with a such issue in the first place. Sure, I could copy my whole portable drive on the HD, but I haven't enough space. So, all I could do was to put everything on a pc. It just shouldn't be an issue in the first place. Why OSX have to be restrictive about a such thing ?

[Anonymous No.1712748]

>>1710743
Why can't I have this crappy front-end that doesn't even have coverflow?

love you, /vr/ but damn. This stuff is a Google-Fu search away

[Anonymous No.1712753]

>>1712748
>Using front end
there is no need. >>1710923

[Anonymous No.1712762]

>>1712727
Oh shit, is XBMC still around? Last build I ran was from 2006 or something.

[Anonymous No.1712792]

>>1712737
If you had done even a cursory search you would have found the NTFS-3G FUSE driver. Not sure what you are complaining about. Apple already ships a read-only NTFS driver with OS X. How many HFS+ drivers does Microsoft ship? Or any other filesystem other than FAT derivatives and NTFS, for that matter?

[Anonymous No.1712815]

>>1710743
Well, what the fuck is up with that rating system though? Who's rated the games on that screenshot?

[Anonymous No.1712836]

>>1712753
B-but OP asked for a front-end.

[Anonymous No.1712842]

>>1712762
They actually have builds for Mac and PC now. You don't have to use "a shitty OS", as you so eleqouentlly put it.

[Anonymous No.1712850]

>>1712836
Maybe but I think what he really wanted was those shiny icons.

[Anonymous No.1712857]

>>1710923
That is awful aesthetics. Even OP looked etter. And where is the simple controller interface?

[Anonymous No.1712875]

>>1712850
Yeah, pretty much. Well, I tried. I have an Xbox 360 wierless Autoscript that lets you turn off the controller with the home button, if anyone is interested. Just putting that out there.

[Anonymous No.1712913]

>>1710960
I saw a guy stream his desktop, and there was an open "chansons" folder.

[Anonymous No.1712917]

>>1712407
Holy shit this is so good. Why isn't it more well known?

[Anonymous No.1712923]

>>1712913
omg epic!!!!

[Anonymous No.1712929]

>>1712913
I seriously hope you called him a faggot.

[Anonymous No.1712942]

>>1712913
I used to stream d swith a prettycoolro on Livestream. His channel was call "GlitterandDeadKittens". They all loved it when I would link to my channel and stream absurd stuff like that NES LOZ:ALTTTP knockoff that I posted a while ack.

[Anonymous No.1712947]

>>1712913
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
OMG
incredible stuff right here.
HAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.1712950]

>>1712942
Apparently, my "B" utton isashit.

Anyways, are you still here, OP?

[Anonymous No.1712960]

>>1712950
yes, what do you think ? He stayed the whole day.

[Anonymous No.1712969]

I'm a Mac user and I was very disappointed with OpenEmu. It's like the old stereotype of Mac come true - looks pretty but works like shit.
What's wrong with SNES9X and the Bannister emus?

[Anonymous No.1713008]

>>1712950
>>1712960
>>1712969

Mac guys: As much as I despise OSX, I want you to be ale to enjoy retro, so if you guys don't use a dual-oot system or Parallels, here's your solution:

>Download Puupy Arcade or Angel Linux
>Install it to a Flash drive
>Boot into USB-mode whenever you want to strictly game

I much prefer using my HTPC and booting directly into >muh movies or >muh games, ut to each his own.

[Anonymous No.1713015]

>>1713008
Holy crap, I wasn't even lying. My "b" button istrulyashit.

[Anonymous No.1713029]

I don't get it - what Emulators are there for Windows that Mac doesn't have? OpenEmu is not some revolution. It's an incomplete shit with a shiny cover.
Snes9x or Bsnes for Snes
Yabause for Saturn
Pcsx(2) for Ps(2)
Dolphin for Wii/GC
Bannister's emus for everything else.

Avoid OpenEmu unless you value prettiness.

Fuck, even Mednafen has been around for ages. Why are people so excited about OpenEmu? !

[Anonymous No.1713034]

>>1713008
Is that all pre-installed? Damn.

[Anonymous No.1713041]

>>1713029
>muhfreedom reasons

As if Mac users give a shit aout open-source.

[Anonymous No.1713046]

>>1711453
Old Mac fag here, really old, like 1989 old. Quit the Mac last year. Why? When Apple moved from Snow Leopard to Lion they killed Rosetta. No more legacy OS X software. Want to run that game you love on your new Mac? Time to play with sheepshaver. (Good luck!) Or you can run the Windows version in Crossover, WINE, or just boot your Windows partition. Well if I'm going to spend most of my time running Windows on my Mac, why am I spending $2K for a Mac laptop with a graphics card, when I can get a Windows laptop with a better graphics card for half the price? Fuck that! I've spent the last year discovering all the games that never made it to the Mac. You're dead to me Apple!

[Anonymous No.1713068]

>>1713041
Do you? Most of us just want to play the fucking games, be the emus FOSS or not.
And if you care about Rosetta, you probably mourn over the PPC days too

[Anonymous No.1713093]

>>1713029
>incomplete shit
it's literally just a frontend for the things you listed below
>>1713041
https://github.com/OpenEmu

[Anonymous No.1713104]

>>1713068
EXACTLY.

I like the hsrdware but new OSXisashit.

Rememer Cedega?

[Anonymous No.1713106]

>>1713093
An incomplete frontend, that is.
Crashes often, not intuitive, can't map all controls. But well it sure is pretty

[Anonymous No.1713112]

>>1713068
Fuck you little boy. I live through the move from 68K to PPC to Intel. I survived the death of OS 9. I got pimples on my ass with more Mac gaming experience than you could dream about. I was first in my class at Navy SEALs school...

[Anonymous No.1713134]

>>1713093
Well, it's not quite just a frontend. Similar to RetroArch, it uses cores ported to its own internal API.

[Anonymous No.1713145]

>>1713112
>68k to ppc, ppc to intel.
As did I. The difference between me and you, though, is that I didn't whine like a baby and did like anyone with a brain; I adapted.

[Anonymous No.1713173]

>>1713112
All that told

Git 'em, vr/bro.

[Anonymous No.1713197]

>>1713029
Some "obscure" one, such as pc FX, PC 98, Visual Pinball, etc.

[Anonymous No.1713209]

>>1713134
That is a frontend in the development sense. GUI applications that just shell out to clis are not even worth mentioning.

[Anonymous No.1714009]

>>1713145
Yes, I too adapted, and moved on to Windows.

[Anonymous No.1714369]

>>1712737
Jesus christ what the fuck are you even talking about? It's "restrictive" because it's a fucking filesystem that the operating system doesn't even use. However, unlike Windows, OSX can actually read filesystems besides the one it's designed for, so formatting it is the most brainless thing possible, unless you're Helen Keller right after a lobotomy.

And yeah, there are drivers you can find pretty easily, several even come with the fucking hard drives themselves, that'll let you write to NTFS on a Mac. Now let's see you read an HFS+ or ext4 drive on Windows.

I don't even use OSX, I can't afford Macs. But everything you've typed is absolutely retarded. You shouldn't enter a discussion about computers when you obviously don't have the slightest clue how to use them.

[Anonymous No.1714423]

>>1714369
>lets see you read an HFS+ or ext4 drive on windows
http://www.diskinternals.com/linux-reader/
http://www.ext2fsd.com/

First result on google.
>shitting on windows for one of the things it does best.

[Anonymous No.1714503]

>>1712917
I just found out about it yesterday. I thought these retards would be all over it, but you're the only person who even noticed the post!

[Anonymous No.1714654]

Or you can just use Steam as a frontend and use this technic
>>1710994

[Anonymous No.1714657]

>>1714369
>You shouldn't enter a discussion about computers when you obviously don't have the slightest clue how to use them.
Thanks, but I have a pc and mac.

[Anonymous No.1714659]

Or you can just use Steam as a frontend and use this technic
>>1711001

[Anonymous No.1714667]

So almost this whole thread is OS X vs. Windows...

I can't believe there are people still doing the Mac vs. PC shit. So many people who are insecure about the OS they use that they resort to acting like children with people who don't agree.

[Anonymous No.1714835]

>>1710756
Paying for linux
top kek

[Anonymous No.1714841]

>>1714835
>paying for freebsd

[Anonymous No.1714843]

>>1713008
gxmame? wtf does that even work? mupen64? pcsx? why all these old dead versions?

[Anonymous No.1714912]

>>1711476
This is just untrue.

>>1711781
I've always considered the awful shine more of a Scott Forstall thing than a Steve Jobs thing. I'm glad he's gone (Scott that is)

>>1710923
looks awful sorry, especially the typeface

>>1711174
looks so bad I can't believe someone is actually using it out of choice

[Anonymous No.1714982]

>>1711476
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, and this comment made that clear.

[Anonymous No.1715180]

>>1714912
>Youre wrong!
>Youre wrong!
>it's shit!
>it's shit!

[Anonymous No.1715450]

>>1714912
>looks awful sorry, especially the typeface

Fashionista punk mothafuckah.