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Doom thread (Last thread >>1699607)
(other retro FPS games also welcome, chances are we played 'em too)

FAQ/Pastebin, still updated semi-frequently
http://pastebin.com/AfQkPem3

======WEBSITE======
http://vrdoom.weebly.com/

===COMMUNITY===
##Our WADs can be found here!##
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS

Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vrDOOM

IRC (The password is in the FAQ.)
irc.zandronum.com
Channel: #vr

===TUTORIALS AND UTILITIES===

Wanna learn how to...

Create maps?
http://www.doombuilder.com/index.php?p=tutorials

Open/Edit WAD/PK3/etc for mod compatibility?
http://slade.mancubus.net/index.php?page=downloads (download 3.0.2)
http://zdoom.org/wiki

Load multiple WADS and mods at the same time? - ZDL (v3.2.2.2)
http://www.mediafire.com/?eq4zyb6k8c0o6nc

===WADS===
/idgames torrent (as of Nov.25, 2013; 12 GBs of wads, 18 years worth of user-made content!)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13513277/idgames.torrent

Vanilla/Boom related projects can be found here
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/

ZDoom mods/projects can be found here
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19

>> No.1703229

****************************
NEWS
****************************

-Doom 4 Trailer here. It's damn true. http://youtu.be/0C4F1h-HSXU. Further details will be shown at Quakecon.

-Doom 2: In Name Only represents everyone's wishes of playing the Doom 2 maps in a more literal way. It just got an /idgames link now! Check the dev. thread here. http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1124737

-Metroid Dreadnought IS OUT! GO GET DEM TUUUBES - http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4561&pid=61847#pid61847

-DoomRL Arsenal got updated too - http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=37044

-Also The Space Pirate got an update! Check the latest ver. here! https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxbbtKR5bll_anFPaVhUQVZqcnM/edit?usp=sharing And be sure to check this tutorial http://youtu.be/mrFF8LCZw5Y

-Some anons are doing a 200 min. speedmapping challenge; vanilla compatible (Doom 2 format), no custom textures and MUST be done in 200 mins and have an exit; ask in the thread f/details!

-John Romero was present at GDC and a kind anon set him up a LAN in Zandronum (yes, you read that right). These are some of the matches! http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXkipPv0b4KMKE7z3WwlYYUCDLACNoYfE. He was also present at the NYU Game Center to discuss, along with Rand Miller (MYST) about their games, their legacies, and the current status of game developing. You can rewatch said event here http://vimeo.com/92838909

-ALSO, don't forget to watch this year's Summer Games Done Quick, as it's going to feature Doom 64 and an Ultimate Doom race! Check the schedule here https://gamesdonequick.com/schedule. The past AGDQ featured Plutonia (Go 2 It included) and a Doom 2 race. To rewatch said speedruns, go follow this link http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQcxg3SUqlYBoSYrpNJVu58GsoCXMREa1.

-HDoom has its 5th techdemo! happy now? http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=m12-hdoom-techdemo5.pk3

ATTENTION! If you know about something news-worthy, PLEASE reply to this post so everyone can see it

>> No.1703237

>>1703229
I think Hideous Destructor got an update a few days ago.
>>1703232
Knew about that too. Actually beat UD on UV with only the keyboard.

>> No.1703247 [DELETED] 

It's sad how Doom is one of the best games ever made and yet the general here is circle jerking tripfags.

>> No.1703251
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>>1703247

>> No.1703261

>>1703247
What made you feel so excluded?

>> No.1703265
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1703265

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1279043

>zomg it tiles!.png

>> No.1703269

>>1703247
I don't see much of that at all in doom threads; do you have some sort of reverse-tripfag filter???

>> No.1703271

>>1703247
Kinda hard to not have a circle-jerk when it's the same people posting in the same threads every day.

What do you propose as an alternative?

>> No.1703289

>>1703271
If only there was some sort of way we could all be anonymous so it would be impossible to know who posted what and we would have to take each post on it's own merit. Man that would be a sweet forum!

>> No.1703295

>>1703289
Send an email to moot so he can know how much it makes you cry.

>> No.1703296

>>1703247
For the most part I think people only tripfag if they have new content to show. Unless they are that one asshole.

>> No.1703298

>>1703227

What are the best vanilla style improvement mods? I want the vanilla style with some minor tweaks/enhancements.

Why do we say "vanilla" anyways? I'm going to stop using it. Vanilla has a distinct taste, it's not "bland" or unchanged.

>> No.1703304

>>1703289
I got the perfect board for you.

>>>/b/

>> No.1703343

>>1703296
Even people like terminus, ijon, mike12, sarcose, scroton, and a couple other guys that create content don't trip

I don't know what that guy was talking about. IMX just uses the trip to make threads basically.

>> No.1703352

>>1702345
"Sodomizing" wasn't literal.

You see, it was smashing him against the floor, and then it threw him to me. Somehow with me exploing upon impact.

I dont have webm of that. I don't take record of anything I do. I don't know how to do it either i use a mac

>> No.1703421

>giving /v/irgins attention

>> No.1703480

>>1703229
>-Doom 2: In Name Only represents everyone's wishes of playing the Doom 2 maps in a more literal way. It just got an /idgames link now! Check the dev. thread here. http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1124737

But original Doom 2 is better.

>> No.1703508

>>1703480
Yeah I tried that.
Dropped.

>> No.1703517

>>1703480

I got to the crusher and got my ass handed to me, do I just suck ass or is there a bit of a difficulty jump there?

>> No.1703528

Fuck, Scythe 1 is so much better than its sequel.

just like doom

>> No.1703542

Does anyone know the name of the song (and/or name of midi) of the boss map of Doom's episode 1?

Thanks

>> No.1703545

>>1703542
Sign of Evil.

>> No.1703546

>>1703542
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYVX6b9svuE

>> No.1703562

so I'm planning to include lots of Dante's inferno elements, including the implication of demons having once been known historical figures, who do you think should be what?

>> No.1703563

I don't get it, gzdoom crashes if I try to play anything other than Doom 2, tried unloved, project MSX, and brutal doom. they all just crash. does anyone know how to fix this?

>> No.1703571

>>1703563
Are you using an up-to-date version of GZDoom? You can get the most recent version here: http://devbuilds.drdteam.org/gzdoom/

>> No.1703584

>>1703542

http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Doom_music

A lot of these things can be found on the doom wiki.

>> No.1703589

>>1703571
Nope, doesn't work. I don't know what's up. Maybe my PC's too weak to run them.

>> No.1703602

potato computer

>> No.1703613

I can't do it /doom/.
I can't bet Thy Flesh Consumed.
I got to E4M6, but I'm just not gud enough to get through it with what little health and ammo I have left.
I tried, but I just can't go on.

>> No.1703626

>>1703613
Try to conserve your ammo. Make monsters fight with each other.

>> No.1703630

>>1703613

Get good.

Thy Flesh Consumed is the hardest set of levels in Doom really.

>> No.1703684

>>1703613
If you don't have the HP then you need to pistol start it.

Also, was Eriguns ever updated with the Autoshotgun? I remember seeing the sprite and loving it a lot but I'm inept at DECORATE to have made it myself.

>> No.1703706

>>1703613
Is that the one with the one room that ambushes you with three barons the moment you get a plasma rifle? I kinda cheated, BD let's you kick them in the nuts to stun them, giving you a windo of escape

>> No.1703714

>>1703706
No, that was E4M2.

E4M6 is the one with the castle looking building in the center of a lava moat.

>> No.1703715

>>1703706
i think that's e4m2. in vanilla i also "cheat" by grabbing the BFG early through the wall.

shameless self promotion >>1702962 >>1702963 >>1702965 >>1702980

>> No.1703726

>>1703714
E4M6, the Lisa Simpson's Hair map

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>>1703726
That's a good one, anon. I'll have to remember that.

>> No.1703756

Copy and pasting from IRC.

I apologize for anybody that I may have kept waiting, I have been busy this past week, and will be busy today at 8 PM as well, so I will just start the DTWID server in a little bit.

That said, the server is now up. Server name is "DTWID coop", password is "vidya". We are on episode 2 mission 6 now, as that is how far we had gotten day one. Show up if you like.

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OC

>> No.1703784

>>1703756
Servers back up.

>> No.1703793

>>1703227

>if someone were to make the ultimate Doom mod that completely updates the look, sound, gameplay and everything about the game, ID would file a cease and dissist notice

>> No.1703797

>>1703793
Good thing that will never happen!

>> No.1703798

http://strawpoll.me/1882660

>> No.1703814

>>1703797

Thing is, strictly speaking some mod and fangame stuff exists in a grey area. If someone were to remake Doom and make it look better than Doom 4, ID could file a c&d. They could claim that it's so good people could confuse it for an actual ID game and that it therefore fringes on their copyright.

>> No.1703818

>>1703814

Good thing that will never happen!

>> No.1703824

>>1703613
Not uncommon, E4 is very unfair and unforgiving.

>> No.1703828
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>>1703814
>>1703793

Nobody can even agree on what updated weapon graphics/behavior would entail.
Nobody's even finished an updated sprite pack for the monsters.

The chances of this actually happening are so astronomically low.
I'd be more worried about something like Nintendo sending metrood a C&D.

>> No.1703840

>>1703828
>metrood

Damn, those particle effects look cool.

>> No.1703848

>>1703814
Probably not very likely to happen, though if it did, I'm sure Carmack would go ape and fire a rocket with a chemical warhead at Bethesda or neo-Id, and then end up in a shootout with the police at some later date, being only heard saying MMMM.

>> No.1703852

>>1703848
Carmack doesn't care about Doom.
It was Romero that cared about Doom.

Carmack was the Quake guy.

>> No.1703863

>>1703852
It's more the freedom thing, he was always very freedom oriented.

>> No.1703894

Stopping by to say I made a substantial update to my launcher for Doom RPG. Fixed all the bugs ever and added some useful stuff. If you're using it, you should update it ASAP.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2321290/Doom%20RPG%20Launcher.zip

Also, pray for my soul, because I'm currently writing a very convoluted password system for character transfers which will likely destroy my sanity.

>> No.1703909

>>1703852
To my understanding Romero is very supportive of the modding community, and I remember him saying he couldn't finish Doom 3, saying it got predictable, and by extension, boring

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>>1703894
>Also, pray for my soul, because I'm currently writing a very convoluted password system for character transfers which will likely destroy my sanity.

DON'T DO IT YOU FOOL
IT'S NOT WORTH IT
NOTHING IS WORTH THAT AMOUNT OF PAIN AND SUFFERING

>> No.1703916

>>1703894
>Also, pray for my soul, because I'm currently writing a very convoluted password system for character transfers which will likely destroy my sanity.
Man just tell people to fucking deal with it and start over if they play a new level set.

>> No.1703921

>>1703894
oh god
rip kyle
he died as he lived
full of skeletons

>> No.1703945

>>1703916
Haha, I actually do. I'm moreso doing it for the learning experience as opposed to people getting all mad that they have to start fresh when loading a new level set.

>>1703915
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Also, to anyone who tries it, do NOT think that saving in the Outpost, swapping wads, and going back to the first map will work, because believe me, it'll rip the space-time continuum apart horribly.

>> No.1703948

>>1703852
i don't think carmack cares about any of the games once the engine's finished

>> No.1703951

>>1703948
Heh, I thought I was the only one who thought this. I always got the impression that all he cared about was the tech, not the actual games it was being made for.

>> No.1703969

>>1703784
Server is back up, again, DWTID coop, pass is vidya, episode 3 mission 5.

>> No.1703991

>>1703517
>>1703480

Yeah, the general consensus of MAP06 is that it completely broke the pace of the WAD. And oh boy, if it wasn't for that map, D2INO's Dead Simple would've taken his place quickly

>> No.1703996

>>1703613
>E4M6

Don't worry, it's normal, in fact it's arguably harder than E4M2 (Perfect Hatred isn't THAT much of a hard map, it's just that it relies on you doing trial and error.)

>> No.1704002

>>1703793
>dissist

*desist.

>captcha: fome plyint

>> No.1704005

>>1703852
>>1703948

Carmack doesn't even care about what he did yesterday.

>> No.1704016

>>1703948
He really didn't, which is why Romero and Carmack made the perfect team, Romero pushed the fucker to his limits creating all these coolio ideas, and Carmack created the technology to his ideas. Once Romero buggered off, Carmack was only really there for the engine, which ended up going horribly because the rest of id didn't know what the fuck they were doing compared to him.

>> No.1704020

EUTeam status

[ ]Not BTFO
[X]BTFO

>> No.1704021

>>1703996
i disagree, i think e4m6 is easier. if you're doing e4 contiguously you get to take all your excess resources from e4m3-5. even if pistol-starting, it's a lot easier once you know it.

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I have been thinking;what is harder,plutonia or thy flesh consumed?

>> No.1704062

>>1704016
Romero is the game creator, Carmack is the engine genius.

I'd give a lot of stuff to see them back together, honestly.

>> No.1704063

>>1704062
But Romero married Carmack

>> No.1704076

>>1704060
Plutonia.

Thy Flesh Consumed just has a couple of real challenging levels. The rest is relatively easy due to the enemy types Doom 1 offers.
Plutonia has a lot more annoying design due to consistently more dangerous enemies(Revenants and Chaingunners) and there's 32 of them.

>> No.1704078

>>1704062
People used to create fucking companies with two people. We should start a kickstarter, to raise money and bribe those two fuckers into creating a new company, then making a fast as fuck, and easy to make mods for game. Opensource is secondary. I wouldn't mind a 2.5d or low poly fps so long as those two would be working on it.

>> No.1704086

Why don't modern FPS games have a live view of the player character's face? That was a nice touch in my opinion.

>> No.1704091

>>1704078
While I wouldn't mind low poly/2.5d, there's no reason for that to happen.

A simple shooter with an open platform/source and a reasonable price (think Serious Sam, but done by oldschool Id, with genuinely open source) would rock.

>or just get them both to work for/with Tripwire
>Killing Floor 2 just got that much better
>my dick

>>1704086
None that I can think of

>> No.1704095

>>1703227

>HOW TO YOU FEEL TODAY?

D-Doomed?

>> No.1704103

>>1704086
>Why don't modern FPS games have a live view of the player character's face? That was a nice touch in my opinion.

I like the Doom marine's expressions. He's an avatar for the player, so he reacts to things like the player would, not as a realistic marine on mars would react. It's a nice touch. Something lacking in many games.

>> No.1704106

>HOW DO YOU FEEL TODAY?
Agitated

>> No.1704107

>>1704078
They fucking should.
Draft in Tom Hall too, and maybe Adrian if he's had the chance to calm down.

Would be fun to see them just make something, the four of them, again.

>> No.1704113

>>1704091
There is a reason to make it low poly/2.5d, to make it easy to create mods for. That is a big reason that Doom is so popular today. The better the graphics, the more work it takes to create maps for the game.

>> No.1704116

>>1704113
Still doesn't justify it. Add 2.5d compat or if it's 3d you can make whatever poly count you want.

I'm more in favor of improving mod tools than dumbing down the game for ease of modding.

>> No.1704124

>>1704116
There is absolutely no reason to sacrifice performance in a game that needs it most for eyecandy you would be speeding past too fast to enjoy. The moment focus is put on graphics is the moment the focus is taken away from game design.

>> No.1704127

>>1703298
Because vanilla is most often used as a base for sundaes, banana splits, etc. and other things that are created by adding toppings. It's not vanilla vs. chocolate vs. strawberry, it's vanilla vs. vanilla w/ fudge, or whipped cream, or a cherry.

>> No.1704131

>>1704060
Plutonia is much harder. E4 really only has one hard level, some of the others can be tough if you don't use midlevel saves, but Plutonia is full of nasty "gotcha!" traps the whole way through.

>> No.1704132

>Plutonia
>Evilution
>64

Which order should I play?

>> No.1704134

>>1704132
Skip evilution
64
Plutonia

>> No.1704135

>>1704134
But Evilution is good.

>> No.1704136

>>1704132
Evilution
64
Plutonia

Plutonia is just so fucking shitty, they just spam the most difficult enemies, feels like a thirteen year old made the map set.

>> No.1704141

>>1704132

Nobody can agree whether Plutonia or Evilution was good, bad, stupid, or somewhere in between. Save those for last.
64 is almost unanimously heralded to be the true Doom 3, so go with that first.

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>>1704134
>skip evilution
He should give it a tumble, if not for the music alone.

Death's Bells
AimShootKill
Smells Like Burning Corpse
More
Infinite
Cold Subtleness
Let's Kill At Will
Legion Of The Lost

The music is excellent and does a great job of building the atmosphere on the maps, the gameplay may not always be the best, but the feeling of TNT: Evilution is unique.

>> No.1704156

>>1704134
>>1704136
tl;dr play only 64

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>>1704136
>Plutonia
>difficult
Git gud, it's pretty fucking easy compared to classic Megawads like Hell Revealed or Alien Vendetta.

>> No.1704161

>>1704157
Is only one of those sprites damageable?

>> No.1704164

WOOP WOOP ALERT ALERT

BE IS UPGRADING TO 1.2.1

WOOP WOOP ALERT ALERT

>> No.1704168

>>1704161
None of those sprites are damageable :^)

it's a TNT1 A actor that spawns its frames in separate actors.

However, this isn't how it will behave in the final rendition. This is one of my concept tests that I thought looked funny.

>> No.1704170

>>1704164
about fucking time

>> No.1704171

>>1704164
finally, jesus

>> No.1704172

>>1704168
>>1704161
http://youtu.be/pH45FJ4G-Io

Here's a more feature-complete idea of what they will do.

Dakkamons is getting another feature: cvar called dakkamons_monstername_fuckyou, and this will be the revenant's fuckyou mode. Each monster will have a separate, individually toggleable fuckyou mode that will act as a mutator on top of its behavior - so its getrekt or normal behavior will be augmented, not replaced, by it. I got the idea from giving the lost souls their own separate cvar called "skullsexplode", which makes them rocketsplosion on impact with something.

>> No.1704180

>>1704172

So monsters have getrekt behavior as well as fuckyou behavior?

Welp, guess it's confirmed, taking too much work in a short time. This will never be finished.

>> No.1704185

>>1704160
I never said it was difficult, it is fucking tedious. I never liked fighting one fucking archvile, 1/3rd of this megawad consists of fucking archviles.

>> No.1704187

>>1704132

I've never been able to beat any of them. I just get so bored of them rather fast.

Doom 1 is my favorite, followed by 2. I tend not to really get much into many other map packs after that.

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>>1704180
getrekt is just about finished and fuckyou will just be a little bit more <__________<

>> No.1704202

>>1704191
>pic
fragged

>> No.1704204

>>1704202
Do you have 200/1 vision?

>> No.1704216

>>1704204
just a way to say died man

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Absolutely fucking disgusting.

>> No.1704264

>>1704231
What am I looking for?

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>>1704185
Tedious? Sure, sometimes, but all you really need to do is adapt to it's gameplay, and it becomes really fun.

>> No.1704270

>>1704264
The fact that it's sealed in a plastic casing for no reason? Why buy a game just to look at it?

>> No.1704280

>>1704265
what a horribly misleading ad

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>>1704280
>new music
>new textures (graphics)
>all new levels
>was the final commercial level set for Doom at the time
>the later Doom 3 had very little relation to it and it's predecessors aside from concepts and themes

Can't say that it's very misleading.

>> No.1704291

>>1704016
doom is one of those lifetime things, pretty much every decision during its development was astonishingly astute

>>1703991
maybe i'm missing something, but i thought D2INO's Dead Simple was waaaaaaaay too hard. The Crusher was hard but definitely finishable if you tried, but dead simple is like a nuts.wad level of difficulty

>> No.1704292

>>1704286

It's an expansion pack. It makes it sound like more than that. "New graphics" would mean more than a few new textures. New enemies, new levels, etc.

>> No.1704302 [DELETED] 

>>1704270
autism

>> No.1704307

>>1704292
It's pretty obvious it's an expansion pack, yes, and it does have new graphics, new wall textures, new floor textures, new sky textures, those are graphics, and these are all used in ways that are quite distinct from Doom and Doom II, don't tell me that Plutonia doesn't have a unique look to it's levels.

>> No.1704308

>>1704124
It's 2014, not 2004. There's no need to "Focus" on graphics to not be eye-vomit.

I'm not saying Crysis 4.0, I'm saying "not low poly required, not sprite-based". Fucks sake, my phone can run Unreal at an acceptable framerate.

>> No.1704312

>>1704132
64
64 on Watch Me Die!
64 again
Plutonia
maybe TNT, wasn't a huge fan of it, but it's a good mapset. Think it's just that I couldn't install it and Plutonia at the same time as a kid so I have no nostalgia goggles for TNT. (poverty toaster at the time)

>> No.1704315

>>1704312
64 isn't that good. It's atmospheric, sure, but when I try to remember completing it (which I did a couple of months ago), first thing that I remember is open door - hell knight - blast it with SSG 3 times - repeat. It's not all like that, but it does feel a bit too repetitive in the middle.

>> No.1704317

>>1704124
>forgetting that doom was the most graphically advanced pc game of the era.

>> No.1704319

Why don't people like Evilution? I always preferred it to all the "fuck you" traps and shit in Plutionia

>> No.1704320

>>1704317
It was also one of the faster ones.
But his point is still moot, there's no reason to make a level pretty if it doesn't detract from gameplay.

You need a supreme excess of detail to make a modern or even a couple of years old computer to slow down when playing Doom.

>> No.1704321

>>1704319

Because it's shit.

>> No.1704323

>>1704302
>>>/v/

>> No.1704330

>>1704307

Yeah, but the ad is "technically true" but it implies it's a lot more than it is. It makes it sound like it's a true sequel, with a lot more original content than a few textures. And the "stories" are just fan fiction tier and you only get a couple of text screens. It's not like its Star craft vs. Starcraft Bloodwar.

>> No.1704349

>>1704270
>The fact that it's sealed in a plastic casing for no reason?

Collectability

>Why buy a game just to look at it?

Very joke, many laughs.

>> No.1704352

>>1704330
>Yeah, but the ad is "technically true" but

Okay, thanks for complaining about nothing.

>> No.1704365

>>1704352

The ad is still deceptive and overselling it.

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>>1704365
I agree
I like Final Doom as an expansion pack (way more than Master Levels)
but the ad is pretty deceptive

>> No.1704379

>>1704330
I disagree.

>>1704321
>Yeah, but the ad is "technically true" but it implies it's a lot more than it is.
Does it really? It's 64 new levels, with some brand new textures and done by people with a different mindset than the original ones, it's the same game engine, but it's quite different.

>It makes it sound like it's a true sequel
Ueh, not much more than ever other Pwad and megawad out there that's set after Doom 2.

>with a lot more original content than a few textures
The textures are used differently, and the levels are vastly different in theme and concept and execution than the original games.

>And the "stories" are just fan fiction tier and you only get a couple of text screens
And the original text screens and stories are not? They're about on the same level.
Doom was never famous for it's compelling plot and story. It's baseline, boilerplate, it's a regular, but adequate setup for the game.

>> No.1704381

>>1704365
Welcome to advertising.
Specifically 1990's advertising.
Shit, there were commercial third-party wads that told bigger lies to you in those same times, I want to remember the backside of some CD-case that had pre-rendered screenshots, implicating that it had those "hot new gfx bro", with a tiny little disclaimer somewhere explaining that they were just "artistic representations".

Do you also complain that the Big Mac doesn't look like it does in the ad?

>> No.1704383

>>1704265
>flesh eating mutants
>blood thirsty mutant zombies
I hate this shit. The Doom movie did the same thing.
THEY ARE FUCKING DEMONS FROM HELL

>> No.1704384

>>1704383
That could be construed to the zombies and one or two of the monsters being demonic mutations.

Imagine if the imp or maybe mancubus was initially human at some point.

>> No.1704386

>>1704383
One of the text screens in Doom 2 mentions canibbal mutants. Probably the hitscanners.

>> No.1704389

>>1704270
Money. I've seen those things sell for fuck tons.
"After grading, the comics are placed in an inner well - a sealed sleeve of Barex, a highly gas-impermeable plastic polymer.[7] Then, the comics are sonically sealed in a hard plastic, tamper-evident holder. This process is often referred to in comics jargon "slabbing". A label is affixed at the top indicating the title, date, grade, page quality, and any notes, such as notable creators."
From the Comics Guaranty wiki, pretty much the exact same process.

>> No.1704394

>>1704386
it also said aliens

>> No.1704395

Pick a villain from any other franchise
he is now in hell, what sort of demon does he become?

>> No.1704398

>>1704389
>"After grading, the comics are placed in an inner well - a sealed sleeve of Barex, a highly gas-impermeable plastic polymer.[7] Then, the comics are sonically sealed in a hard plastic, tamper-evident holder. This process is often referred to in comics jargon "slabbing". A label is affixed at the top indicating the title, date, grade, page quality, and any notes, such as notable creators."

A considerable amount of those were "collectible first issues" of particularly worthless things such as "Spirits of Vengeance" or "Mr. T".
The Comics Prospector Bubble was a pretty depressing and retarded age.

There must be so many "Youngbloods" in plastic pockets all over America after that.

>> No.1704404

>>1704320
I... what.

Nobody's saying make some eyecandy bullshit that crawls on a mid-tier computer.

Just saying, sprites are far outdated, if you wanna keep using sprites, Doom is one of the best mediums you could possibly wish for, stick with Doom.

Wanna make a mod-friendly modern game? Then do that, and I support it.

>> No.1704410

>>1704394
They are, technically.

>> No.1704416

>>1704395
wizard of yendor
teleporting archvile that summons packs of monsters, steals your shit and resurrects itself till you beat the level

>> No.1704425
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1704425

Fuck you too, game.

>> No.1704430

>>1704270
It's in fucking unopened perfect condition.
Do you have any inkling of an idea how much new cartridge games sell for?

>> No.1704432

>>1703894
Hey Mr Doom RPG or anyone who can help
I've been trying to play your mod, but no matter what I play keys(at least red ones) refuse to work. is there some kind of fix for this?

>> No.1704447

>>1704432
Who me? :P

Anyway, simple fix, go grab the latest revision of GZDoom. This happens because I use a fairly new feature added recently by a feature requests which allows keys to use the Species properties of actors so that the lock definitions don't need to directly be modified to change simple things on keys anymore.

You can grab the latest revision here:
http://devbuilds.drdteam.org/gzdoom/

>> No.1704454

>>1704395
>Big Boss
He's already a demon, but I see in hell, a cyberdemon with bits of metal gear integrated in, with a missing eye and one horn on its right side, and a red left hand, slun under its cannon is aset of drums that look like the infinity sign

>> No.1704456

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtH-L5CZFA0
TIME TO AGITATE

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>>1704447
you are wonderful
is this payment enough?

>> No.1704458

>>1704416
You better get on this for the Lordvile, Yholl.

>> No.1704463

>>1703945
That's what I did before, though, and it worked fine.

Did you b-break it? T.T

>> No.1704487

>>1704447
Doom RPG is a mod right

You don't mean that turn-based mobile game?

>> No.1704495

>>1704487
Doom RPG is my mod yes, no relation to the mobile games.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=33292

>> No.1704498

>>1704463
I changed the way my script code is compiled. It will now get much more angry about doing that sort of thing. Unintentional side-effect of moving to a single library file from the multiple linked together.

>> No.1704507

Why do ZDoom imp fireballs looks different than PrBoom+'s?

>> No.1704510

>>1704507

RenderStyle Add
Alpha 1

http://zdoom.org/wiki/DoomImpBall

>> No.1704516

>>1704425
Should've just noclipped in. I mean, the map maker didn't think that some mod would ever replace whatever was there with a monster that dropped things, so you're not cheating.

>> No.1704519

>>1704510
So how exactly do I deactivate it?

>> No.1704524

>>1704519

Try something like this

ACTOR NewImpBall : DoomImpBall
{
Renderstyle Normal
}

Then replace A_TroopAttack with A_CustomMissile("NewImpBall")

>> No.1704525

>>1704524
yeah fuck it i'll just use prboom+

>> No.1704527

>>1704524

Oh and you'd probably have to replace the imp too so...

ACTOR NewImp : DoomImp
{
States
{
Missile:
yada yada
}
}

DoomImp's code is here for reference http://zdoom.org/wiki/DoomImp

>> No.1704554

>>1704456
Revenant.
Strippers.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.1704561

>>1704554
That gets me wondering, what's the revenant going to look like in hdoom?

>> No.1704568

>>1704561
They posted a gif a while ago. Looked like a tall meaty chick, wasn't that well received.

Apparently now it's going to be thin and tall as it should

>> No.1704592

>>1704568
>Apparently now it's going to be

When did they ever post about changing it?
As far as I know, nobody said anything about it being changed.

>> No.1704597

>>1704568
>Gakunants

>> No.1704610
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wFiRLMf0is

I feel like a complete retard. I finally sorta understand Inferno's ending.

That weird building behind Daisy are supposed to be skyscrapers. It's just done from a weird perspective, so I thought it was some weird pyramid or something.

Does anyone know why they included the dead rabbit thing? Was it just for shock? Censors wouldn't allow them a dead person?

This also means that Thy Flesh consumed seems to take place on earth. Where exactly I dunno.

>> No.1704614

>>1704568
I would like to see this.

If they are getting redesigned I sure hope they ain't anorexic.

>> No.1704626

>>1704610
>Does anyone know why they included the dead rabbit thing?
It's your rabbit, according to the end text in Episode 4.

>> No.1704629

>>1704610
I guess the reason why they included the dead rabbit was because they wanted to make the story go something like "Not only did the demons invade earth, but they also killed your pet rabbit, your only friend." At least that's what I think it's meant to be.

>> No.1704642

>>1704383
The former humans were probably either possessed or driven insane and homicidal.

>> No.1704645

>>1704610
Thy Flesh Consumed takes place in Hell, watch the ending, it explains the rabbit too.
I think Thy Flesh Consumed is supposed to be some sort of tunnel between Hell and Earth.

>> No.1704650

>>1704645

in my head canon Ep4 is actually Purgatory

as soon as I git gud at mapping I'm going to recreate Episode 4 around that; still a LONG way to go lmao

>> No.1704651

>>1704454
>He's already a demon
I get that reference

>> No.1704654

Any mods with automatic shotguns that isn't Doom RLA?

>> No.1704656

>>1704395
>Mother Brain
Shit, I dunno, she's already really demonesque.

>> No.1704658

>>1704654
FKER has one I think. Might be semiauto

>> No.1704662

>>1704654
Project MSX

it kind of sucks though (the autoshotgun, not the mod)

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>>1704395

This asshole.

He keeps his dick-ass projectile dodging abilities, except now he can move in full three dimensions, and his fireballs now explode like rockets, and his swooping bodycheck not only does a lot of damage, but sends you flying.

>> No.1704681
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Rejected mock-up for missile animation.

>> No.1704685

http://youtu.be/98hUmVTY9WM

Are you guys ready to be aggravated?

>> No.1704686

>>1704685

What am I looking at? A whole bunch of ACS errors?

>> No.1704687

>>1704654
Eriguns if it was ever updated.

>> No.1704690

>>1704686
The ACS errors are not pertinent. They are involved with unreleased dakka functionality that I did not dummy out. This version of dakkamons won't be released until that dakka version is.

>> No.1704692

>>1704685
Looks kind of glitchy.

Is that many projectiles really necessary?

>> No.1704704

>>1704692
It's a combination of two optional cvars, both of which are intended to make the difficulty vastly unfair toward the player, in different ways.

The glitchy look is intended. See:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pH45FJ4G-Io

[spoilers]dakkamons' optional cvars are in no way intended to be winnable or survivable. Combine them with soul-drop modifiers to give yourself more health to survive them, though. "getrekt" is basically 2hu mode. "fuckyou" is an option that can be toggled per-monster that is meant to make each one individually exponentially more annoying.[/spoilers]

>> No.1704705

Why does the Doom 64 mancubus look like a bear

>> No.1704706

>>1704704
>spoilers

Er. Why did I pluralize it? I don't know. I'm tired. I've been staring at fading revenant afterimages all day and it has wreaked havoc on my brain.

>> No.1704708

>>1704705
>Why does the Doom 64 mancubus look like a bear

Doom 64 has shitty looking monsters. I dislike the weapons too since you can't see his hands. Guns just kinda float.

If you're using the Doom 64 EX you can replace the monsters presumably by just copy pasting. I have not triedthis though.

>> No.1704710

>>1704704
Oh okay, that makes sense then.

I was getting a bit of a headache watching those Revenants blinking everywhere. Not sure why.

>> No.1704713

>>1704708
I really wish Doom 64 had sprited hands for the shotguns.
I would have loved to see those two used like the Doom 1 and 2 counterparts.

I would also use those Doom 64 sprites all the time if it was like that too.

>> No.1704714

>>1704710
Hah, sorry. I am probably going to tone it back down. I'm coming up with a balance for it.

>> No.1704715

>>1704714
you don't want to do what fd did and make it too hard to be fun

>> No.1704717

>>1704713
Smooth Doom has the D64 shotgun, reloading animation and all. Looks way better than vanilla's imo. Dat sexy blueness.

>> No.1704719

So hey, /vr/. I hang around here a lot. THE single most common question I see posted here is, "I just installed Doom for the first time, what's the best enhancement mod to make everything pretty while keeping vanilla gameplay?"

Now, beyond a few hard and fast rules (very few of us like high-res textures and 4x sprites with a shitty filter on top) there seems to be a lot of disagreement. The most common replies seem to be Smooth Doom, Polished Skull, etc.

Why don't we just...make our own? I'm talented with DECORATE and can at least edit graphics (don't tell me to make anything from scratch though) and I have an eye for details.

What would your enhancement mod be like? My first thing would be Smooth Doom but removing some of the "features" of it or at least making them optional (some of the alternate deaths are shitty for example) and starting over on the weapons.

What's your ideas?

>> No.1704724

>>1704715
There are lots of cvars that allow you to tweak your power and survivability. You can increase or decrease monster health from its base, you can change the value of health each of the dropped souls give, how long they last, how many drop, the SPREAD of how many souls drop, and the max they can give you. You can enable and disable individually each monsters' "FUCKYOU" mode, and getrekt is a difficulty mode that I designed specifically for ijon (probably) because everyone else seems satisfied with vanilla dakkamons.

The vanilla game is actually quite fun and I feel I've balanced it well. What I am working on are the intentionally imbalanced "you gonna die" features.

>> No.1704726

>>1704719
use d64 weapon sprites with actual animations and i will love you

>> No.1704729

>>1704724
that's smart, cvars are great and allow you to keep everyone happy

>> No.1704732

>>1704719

Smooth Doom animations needs to be sped up x2 in some cases. They double the frames, but don't speed them up, so many times they look like slo mo.

>> No.1704736

>>1704719
>Why don't we just...make our own?

Because nobody can agree what the best enhancements would be.
Some people like Perkristian's hi-res sounds, for example. Others hate that the higher bitrate kind of messes with their beefiness.

>> No.1704739

>>1704729
Once I get some more shit done I want to make some 'presets' that you can input. Right now you can use dakkamons_allmonsters_fuckyou -1 and 1 to unset and set every monster's fuckyou modifier. Keep in mind that 'fuckyou' and 'getrekt', for the most part, are only detected by monsters on spawn. There are some, like the imp and zombies, that detect getrekt dynamically, thanks to how their getrekt modes work, but I don't intend to make that a dominant part of the featureset - it's really meant to be played from mapstart (and one reason is I want to cut down on the number of acs calls I make per tic for every monster).

>> No.1704740

>>1704717
Does it have a proper Doom 64 Super Shotgun reload sequence too?

It would feel out of place if the shotgun is sexy but the SSG is not Doom64 sexy.

>> No.1704743

>>1704740
sadly, no

>> No.1704748

>>1703265
what's that reptilian looking face?

oh, and whoever made the BDSE voxel pack (voxelbro?), thank you so much it's just a shame that you forgot the broken lamppost...

>> No.1704752

Question, is there a limit of size of maps?
Would be cool if someone made a map that is a huge city.

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http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?file=combos/america.zip

>> No.1704763

>>1704425
>Marine
>Demon armor combo
>hig power B-rifle and possible more rapid fire weapons
You should cry that you dont have a napalm launcher

>> No.1704791

Are there any situations or even entire maps where you'd ever feel compelled to switch from Super Shotgun to a regular Shotgun?

No real reason to ask, I just hate neglecting the latter, it's so cool.

>> No.1704792

>>1704726
Not vanilla. Besides, they're not that hard to do and they're steadily filling out.

>> No.1704796

>>1704732
A lot of that has started to get fixed in the last few updates; don't go by the video he posted, actually download it and play it, it's gotten a lot better. But it's not perfect, yet.

>>1704736
Of course not everybody will always agree. I've never seen anyone complain about Perk's sounds the way you have though. (It'd be very easy to reintroduce that "beefiness" anyway.)

>> No.1704810

>>1704791
All the time. Recently I figured out something: Zombiemen (and even imps in more difficult levels) are shell sponges

Now I know, you're like, "No shit," but hear me out, it's more complex than you realize. The player can only hold at any given point, 100 shells maximum--if they found a backpack, if not then it's only 50. The SSG takes two shells per shot; this means that without finding any new ammo you can only shoot 50 times, whereas if you use the regular shotgun you can get twice that. The average player is unlikely to think about this often though, and is going to run around with the SSG thinking they have 100 shots to play with, and will probably use it on everything they see. If you're casually running around, you're not going to stop and think about how much ammo you're actually wasting on these Zombiemen, you're just going to blast them and move on, except Zombiemen don't replenish your shells at all. It's tricky.

Usually if my shells dip below 25 (if I don't have a backpack) or 50 (if I do) I'll switch to the regular shotgun until I max out my ammo again. This avoids me running out of shells as often as I used to.

>> No.1704812

>>1704791
ammo conservation, ssg is wasteful against enemies that would usually die in one shell. also it's better at medium range where the ssg spread takes all the power out of the weapon.

>> No.1704813

>>1704791
yeah, i always use the simple shotgun for mid/mid-long shots even more when i'm playing vanilla, so that it has a purely horizontal spread
SSG is only good at close range

>> No.1704826

>>1704792
make like smooth doom and make it optional

>> No.1704827

>>1704752
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/61701-planisphere-2/

I'd recommend trying it in PrBoom+ as it's quite large and zdoom (or pretty much any sourceport that isn't PrBoom+, even chocolate doom) might lag a bit.

>> No.1704837

>>1704810
I have not ran out of shells in a long time.

When there's lots of zombies and Imps I use the chaingun.

I haven't used the standard SG in a long time unless I'm playing Doom 1 or forced to due to no SSG.

>> No.1704842

>>1704827
planisphere 2 in chocolate doom? pretty sure it would crash instantly

>> No.1704851

>>1704842
True, i was mostly just comparing sourceports without necessarily thinking about compatibility.

Even on vanilla maps PrBoom+ gives better performance than chocolate doom, I guess was my point.

>> No.1704852

Do you guys ever play local co-op? Is it possible with a source port?

>> No.1704853

>>1704837
This. I have I rarely ever run out of shells when using the SSG, and if I do I usually have enough ammo to sub in the chaingun until I've replenished my shotgun shells, despite imps and zombiemen being bullet sponges.

>> No.1704854

>>1704852
Local coop on a LAN is possibly on every single sourceport available. It was possible in the very first release version of Doom.

>> No.1704858

>>1704854

I remember it being possible back at release. I should've asked what the best port for local co-op is. Is it tough to set up via ZDoom?

>> No.1704859

>>1704827
Nice.
Tried here, would be cool playing co-op with a bunch of people in this huge map.

>> No.1704860

>>1704858
Honestly unless you need ZDoom features Zandro doesn't have yet, I would just run it on LAN with Zandronum. Chances are good that if it's not designed to work on Zandro anyway, it's not going to work in MP period.

>> No.1704861

>>1704860

Cool, I'll check out Zandronum. Thanks.

>> No.1704872

>>1704827
is there any more huge maps?

>> No.1704876

>>1704872
I don't know of city maps that are huge but try
ZDCMP
ZDCMP2
Eternal Doom

>> No.1704902

>>1704872
Deus Vult Map 05

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>>1703613
let's play e4m6.

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>>1704904

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>>1704906

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>>1704909

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>>1704913

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>>1704916

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>>1704919

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>>1704920

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>>1704924

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I spent some time creating informative ccmds

>> No.1704961

>>1704947
Todo List:

Arachnotron getrekt (concept in mind, haven't gotten it done yet)

Everything but the revenant and lost soul's FUCKYOU

>> No.1704996

Is there a list of assemblies for DoomRL Arsenal?

>> No.1705002

Hey Marty, are you gonna expand on that robed Archvile thing from Spriting Carnival any time soon? I might give it a go myself if you aren't.

>> No.1705003

>>1704996
http://pastebin.com/mG7F9ktg

>> No.1705009

Hey I was wondering, has anybody ever made non cyber-variation of cyber ennemies ?

Like a non-cyberdemon
a pre-flamethrowers Mancubus
Arachnot-trons

They could make some nice variants for RL monsters I guess,

like the (cyber)demon could have less life but shoot fireballs that do absurd amounts of damage, the arachno brains could potentially be floating things and maybe they could shoot like, psychic blasts that go through armor...

>> No.1705021

>>1705009
yeah, check the r667 beastiary

>> No.1705025

>>1705009
>Arachnot-trons
i think there's something like that in FKER

Mancubi could just charge you instead of shooting, and the big demon could shoot electric(stunning and draining) noble-like fireballs

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1705039

>>1705002
Reminds me of this concept I made. I bet the one you're referring to looks better :P

>> No.1705042

>>1705009
Eriance is basically doing that for all the tech enemies because E2 of Demon Eclipse is actually in Hell and thus doesn't have any tech at all

All the weapons are demon weapons with fucking skulls and energy and shit

He's already done the Mancubus and Arachnotron and just started working on the Revenant like two days ago

>> No.1705053

>>1705042
I always figured hell just happened to also have lots of high tech

>> No.1705056

>>1705003
>>1704996
Not either of these posters, but DRL related...

Let's say I've played the shit out of the game, and I really don't feel like fucking with it 'til it drops, but I wanna see how (insert unique weapon here) acts? How would I get it?

Or maybe a better way to phrase it...

>give (whatgoeshere)

For example, Grammaton Cleric pistols, or maybe Quad shotgun?

>> No.1705062

>>1705056
Look in the DECORATE.

>> No.1705065

>>1705062
Oh, well, no shit. Good call.

Maybe I'll make a pastebin with all the gun names and such for lazy people like me.

brb SLADE3

>> No.1705067

Okay so I'm playing through Doom 2 for the first time and Tricks and Traps has defeated me. I have the BFG, shitloads of Plasma Rifle Ammo, nearly sixty rockets and Health and Shield just under maximum and nothing can defeat the fucking hordes of Hell Knights in that one room. And if I ever DO get them all killed by cheesing the through the doorway I have to contend with the goddamn Cyberdemon inside and making a run for the Health sphere is suicide.

Am I doing it wrong? I feel like there has to be a Secret or a gimmick in the level for killing these guys, there's no way they intended you to just pour all of your ammo into a twenty foot space and hope for the best.

>> No.1705070

>>1705067
Go into that room and dont shoot anything, wait for the cybderdemon to shoot at you and upon doing so will hit the Barons of hell.
Dont wait for the door to close before doing this or else you'll get locked in.

>> No.1705071

>>1705070
Okay but then how do I deal with the Cyberdemon itself in such a confined space?
Also, a few of the Hell Knights walk/teleport out of the room and into the central hub, where I can hardly strafe out of the way of their attacks and where splash damage would just fuck me.

>> No.1705074

>>1705071

The short of the matter is that the room is, as per the map name, a trick.
Open the door, come in, let the Cyberdemon shoot at the barons and provoke a ton of infighting.

Then just fuck off to another section of the map and do whatever. After a while either the Cyber will die or the barons will be finished. After you're done fucking off, come back and mop up everything with the BFG.

>> No.1705076

>>1705074
Alright I'll try that. Thanks for the help. This is a really brutal way to introduce Cyberdemons to the player to be honest.

>> No.1705084

>>1705074
>Then just fuck off to another section of the map and do whatever

None of the other sections of the level have anything of value.

It is literally Cyberdemon room > Yellow Key room > Red Key room > Finish.

>> No.1705103

>>1705084
are you suggesting he sit there and wait in the room rather than getting to safety

>> No.1705104

>>1705103
All other rooms are dangerous so.. Yeah.

>> No.1705106

>Plasma Rifle MK.2 isn't affected by Marine Passive

Aw. I thought I had something cool for a second. Back to the High Power, I guess.

>> No.1705112

>>1705106
I want to like the HP Plasma, but the giant, view obscuring projectiles put me off it. Unless those changed in the current build, I haven't tried v7 yet.

Plasma Shotgun will still be my cellfu, because dat reload animation.

>> No.1705120

Plasmatic Shrapnal Assault Shotgun +1 Power/Revenant's Bane/My Shellfu

>> No.1705123
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1705123

>I wonder how accessories to murder is doing
>doo doo doo downloadin
>load up
>THOSE FUCKING MONSTER SPRITES
>VOMIT INTENSIFIES

>> No.1705126

>>1705123
>Kill one
[Fart noises intensify]

>> No.1705134

dooooooooooooooooooooom

>> No.1705135

i've been making some doom 2 maps but i'm getting sick of the default textures. are there some texture packs out there that i can download and use?

>> No.1705138

>>1705112
I could always reduce the projectile's scale slightly for you.

And yeah, that reload is just magnificent, Sgt. Shivers really did an amazing job with making that.

>> No.1705141

>>1705138
I would love to see more of the weapons getting some reload animations. A lot of them have some nice ones, while others just drop off the screen for 2 seconds.

>> No.1705145

>>1705141
Mmm, that'd be nice. Every now and then, Sgt. Shivers goes crazy and belts out a full weapon reload in 10 minutes flat or something ridiculous. His sprite-fu is strong.

He's the only person making them, so it's reliant on him being possessed by reload-mania for more to appear.

>> No.1705152
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1705152

>>1705145
>His sprite-fu is strong.

You're fucking telling me.
Previously, Samus' sprites were these extremely lackluster...things. They were edited from an edit of the Heretic golem, and it showed. We nicknamed them "Shoulderman" and didn't really like them, but couldn't really do much because there weren't a lot of Samus sprites out there.

Then Shivers comes in, says "Meh, doesn't make my dick hard enough", and fucking belted out an entire Samus sheet in a week.

>> No.1705158

>>1704060
Plutonia is generally harder.

TFC was only hard on Romero's maps, IMO.

>> No.1705170
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>>1704791
Play some wads by russian doomer Shadowman. His maps are usually brutal towards ammo count and require you to conserve it as much as you can. Also, try pistol-starting Equinox.

>> No.1705179

>>1705145
>>1705152

I can agree with Shivers' quality handiwork, he's responsible for the bitchin power up animation for Blaz's arm cannon

>> No.1705180
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1705180

Oh, awesome. I thought this was lost to time.

>> No.1705183
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1705183

>>1705180

Wow, that's a lot of extra shit in one pk3.

>> No.1705187
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1705187

>>1705183

Loading is three minutes straight of error messages.
Not exaggerating. There's so goddamn many, I've never even seen this amount of...pure, utter nonsense before.

>> No.1705190
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1705190

>>1705187

Well this doesn't look too bad. Just two recolored marine guys.

>> No.1705192
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>>1705190

NOT EVEN FIVE SECONDS IN AND I AM FUCKING SWARMED WITH THESE FUCKING ALIEN FACEHUGGER SHITTHINGS THAT TAKE FIFTY GODDAMN BULLETS TO KILL AND MOVE LIKE THAT FUCKING MEXICAN LOONEY TUNES RODENT

ANDELE ANDELE FUCKY FUCKY

AND THEY TURN INTO XENOMORPHS WHEN IDLE AFTER A WHOLE TEN SECONDS

>> No.1705193

>>1705002
Go for it! I don't know when I'd be able to get around to it to be honest, and who knows, you might make it better.

>> No.1705194
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1705194

>>1705192

WHY ARE HEALTH BONUSES REPLACED WITH ENEMY SPAWNERS

>> No.1705201 [DELETED] 

>>1705194

Ugh. This is fucking stupid. I'm out of ammo and I haven't even gotten through map01 yet.
Fuck it, I'm almost dead and I'm too lazy to wait on regeneration, so I'm cheating. I'm summoning a medkit.

>> No.1705203
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1705203

>>1705194

whoops forgot picture
Ugh, this is fucking stupid. Through map01 and I'm already almost dead.
Fuck it, I'm not waiting for the regeneration to patch me up, I'm cheating. Brb summoning medikits.

>> No.1705204
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1705204

>>1705203

Uh, hello. You're not a medikit.

>> No.1705205
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1705205

>>1705204

FUCKING HELL IT SHOOTS OUT CHAINGUNNERS

WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS
WHY

>> No.1705206
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1705206

>>1705205

I JUST FUCKING STARTED MAP02
LIKE NOT EVEN FIVE SECONDS ON THE MAP
AND ALREADY AN ARCHVILE SPAWNED RIGHT ON MY FUCKING TITS

>> No.1705223

>>1705206
What
Why is this mod doing these things?

>> No.1705224

>>1705223
Revenge.

>> No.1705227

>>1705206
nonetheless you are obviously surviving somehow

>> No.1705232

>>1705227

I couldn't get past that room. I gave up.
The 250 health cap and insane regeneration still wasn't enough.

>> No.1705236

>Suss gun is in DoomRL
>even the biker voice is in

Nice. The function of the weapon seems a bit different and gimped compared to the original though.

>> No.1705258

Why is the Assault rifle in DoomRL a really slow semi-auto gun? Assembling it from the Battle Rifle seems like a downgrade.

Is it supposed to be the rifle the common zombiemen use?

>> No.1705261

>>1705258
Assault is a fancy mod name for single fire weaponry.

It's not good for any weapon type.

>> No.1705264

>>1705258
Yeah, I never really liked the assault assembly.

>> No.1705265

>>1705258
Assembling it from anything seems like a downgrade.

>> No.1705294

>>1705261
>>1705265
>>1705264

Wow, it sounds like the assembly should be renamed to "Marksman" and given a large increase to damage or target piercing or something.

>> No.1705303

There's nothing in the Assemblies pasta about this Plasma Redirection Cannon, is it new? Has anyone else fooled around with it? Seems pretty awesome, it fires bigass balls of plasma that bounce in the direction of baddies and causes no self-damage.It's pretty hard on ammo though, holds 50 cells and eats 10 per shot, all 5 shots can be gone in around a second. Don't know what mods to slap on it yet.

>> No.1705312
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1705312

>>1704610
>Censors wouldn't allow them a dead person?
Not only was this before the ESRB (not that the game wasn't rated R when it did come around), the game is chock full of dead people, left and right, hanging dead bodies, impaled bodies, bodies nailed to walls.

Furthermore, pic related.

>> No.1705314

Oh, it occurs to me something missing from DRLA is a way to empty a gun, for example when I have ammo trapped in my plasma rifle that I want to use with my BFG without losing the plasma rifle. Or when I pick up a gun I'm going to scrap for a mod pack but I'd also like the ammo from.

>> No.1705319

>>1705265
>>1705264
>>1705261

I take it the "Burst Cannon" assembly is similarly useless for many weapons?

>> No.1705320

>>1705294

Assault assemblies do have a large increase in damage and accuracy. It's a good upgrade unless you're playing as marine in which case the burst assembly is a better choice.

>> No.1705324

>>1705319
Seems less useless than Assault. Very fast 3-shot burst but the delay between bursts is annoying. Marine passive means 1 ammo per burst which is nice.

>> No.1705326

>>1705319
Instead of one shot it's three shots.

The only things to bother with is High Powered and the more unique stuff.

>> No.1705336

>>1705326

I prefer burst over HP because it increases magazine capacity instead of cutting it down, and burst also increases damage.

>> No.1705340

>>1705303
Sniper makes it bounce thrice instead of once, nano makes it recharge your shields when idle and firestorm makes the balls explode in a swarm of smaller balls on contact

>> No.1705341

>>1705340
>recharge your shields
I mean it repair forcefield type armors, like the Fireshield and the Energy Shielded Vest

>> No.1705342

>>1705319
>>1705258
>>1705261
>>1705264
>>1705265
>>1705294
Assault weapons deal triple damage and have an accuracy bonus
Burst weapons deal double damage and actually have an accuracy penalty

>> No.1705348

>>1705258
>>1705261
>>1705264
>>1705265

Assault gives a significant improvement to accuracy and power at the cost of fire rate. DPS is usually lower, but when ammo is scarce, it can take you places.

Assault laser rifle +P does 20-140 damage per shot for just one measly cell ammo.

>> No.1705350

So asthetically my project is going to have nudity in it, but not the sexy kind like hdoom for the most part, feedback?

>> No.1705351

>>1705350
I say go for it

>> No.1705352

>>1705350
What, like HR Giger? mite b cool.

>> No.1705362

>>1704568
>>1704592

Though there is a possibility of a redesign when we actually get to the revenant, it was actually fairly well received when it was first shown (months before Hdoom's first build), and none of us ever said anything about it being changed.

>> No.1705365
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1705365

>>1705180
>>1705183
>>1705187
>>1705190
>>1705192
>>1705194
>>1705203
>>1705204
>>1705205
>>1705206
>>1705204
>Uh, hello. You're not a medikit.
>FUCKING HELL IT SHOOTS OUT CHAINGUNNERS
This is golden. What is this clusterfuck shitwad?

>> No.1705368
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1705368

>>1705342
>>1705261
>>1705258
>Assault rifle
>semi-auto only
>assault weapon
>assault WEAPON

>> No.1705371

>>1705368
Get out /k/, you're drunk again.

>> No.1705375

>tfw you find an amazing gun but all you can think about is how much better it would be if you were any other class
Rolling Technician is suffering.

>>1705368
/k/ pls.

>> No.1705390
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1705390

Anybody knows what does it mean by "corruption"? Maybe a yet unimplemented gameplay feature

>> No.1705392

>>1705352
Gigereske horror is actually exactly what it will be like, some will be sexy but others just wrong

>> No.1705393

>>1705350
Look, all that matters is

1) Are there shotguns
2) Are the shotguns good
3) Are you going to have obnoxious stupid sounds

1 and 2 have to be a yes.
3 has to be a no.

Nothing worse than "jokewads".

>> No.1705416

>>1705393
That's your opinion.

>> No.1705419

>>1705416
Jokewads tend to be obnoxious instead of actually funny.

The only one that tried to have actual humor in it was Turbocharged Arcade.

>> No.1705420

>>1705390
It's the spider overmind's special attack.

>> No.1705452

>>1705419
The creator of unhinged considers it a sort of jokey/nonserious thing, and it's equal parts creepy and hilarious.

>> No.1705453

>>1705390
That armor looks like something Wonder Woman would wear

>> No.1705478

>>1705352
>like HRGiger
>not sexy kind
what the fuck are you talking about m8

>> No.1705485 [DELETED] 

gunmod sucks dick

>> No.1705486

>>1705365
the picture in the first post you quoted contains the name i believe

>> No.1705490

QUESTION
is there a way to mix smooth doom with brutal doom EE?

>> No.1705503

>>1705490
No unless you do it yourself I think.
What do you want to combine anyways? The smoother enemy animations?

>> No.1705506

>>1705503
>The smoother enemy animations?
yes just that

>> No.1705513

>>1705478
He probably means, dick trains and vagina tunnels are not "sexy", every sexual imagery (and image) or implication does not have to be sexy.

...but then again most of Gigers stuff is probably somebodies fetish already, so... yeah.

>> No.1705527

Do you guys recommend Doom for your children?

>> No.1705532
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>>1705527
Of course!

>> No.1705534
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>>1705527
Sure, if they're old enough.
Hell, I first played Doom when I was 6 years old, and I turned out fin-

Fine-ish.

>> No.1705540

>>1705527
I recommend it to everyone.

I am pretty much in the same boat as >>1705534

I didn't turn out so fine but it sure as fuck wasn't because of Doom.

>> No.1705564

>>1705527
>>1705534
I first played doom when I was three or four. I'd sit in dad's lap and shoot with the spacebar while he moved around.

>> No.1705628 [DELETED] 
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1705628

So is everybody here a zandronum faggot or do we have some people who play decent ports?

>> No.1705645 [DELETED] 

>>1705628
controversial...

>> No.1705649

>>1705527
My neice likes to watch me play, she gets creeped out by pain elementials

>> No.1705653

>>1705649
>Getting creeped out by cute flying meatballs
When I was little I always wanted a pet Cacodemon and Pain Elemental.

I was never able to fill that void in my heart until recently with the plushies.

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1705659

>>1705649
What scared me as a kid was more being ambushed in the dark, especially by Arch-Viles, those still scare the fuck out of me.

Cacodemons could startle me when I wasn't expecting them, as their hiss is quite shrill and loud.

>> No.1705662

>>1705653
She's weird, nemesis, aliens, zombies, blood and gore does nothing to faze her, scares in kids shows like mlp make her yelp

>> No.1705664 [DELETED] 

>>1705628
I play ZDOOM

>> No.1705668 [DELETED] 

>>1705664

Do not reply to him.

>> No.1705674
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1705674

Has anyone ever commissioned art to have sprites for a custom enemy done?
Does anyone know what the rates would be like?

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1705680

So are all of you Zandronum faggots or does anybody play a decent port?

Reposting because my last post was just ratted our then removed. I suspect most of you are zandronum faggots then. Well I guess I shouldn't have gotten my hopes up.

>> No.1705684 [DELETED] 

>>1705668
>OMG he disagrees with the majority of us, he should be silenced and all his posts removed.

>> No.1705689 [DELETED] 

>>1705645
>>1705664
Shitposters and the people who respond to them are one and the same.

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>>1705680
I wonder who's behind this post

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>you will never be able to ride on a critter and have it eat shit for you

>> No.1705712
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1705712

[WHOOPS], I forgot my post, sorry

So I was wondering if it is okay to implement something that I've been hearing on /v/ for quite a bit of time

>get killed
>enemies still keep attacking you

y/n?

>> No.1705716

>>1705712

Go for it. Might be cool.
Brutal Dumb attempted this with varying degrees of success.

>> No.1705717 [DELETED] 
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1705717

Come play some real doom on zdaemon or odamex.

4chan confirmed for all zandronum faggots. Zandronum is a shit community. Unless you enjoy 14 year olds, furrfags, gook cartoons, mario party doom, over mod'd abominations of WADS, trannys (nope not kidding), and.. wait a second. 4chan fits right into the zand community perfectly.

Carry on..

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>>1705717
>odamex
Yeah, real quality community there.

>> No.1705727

does anyone have the "so you want to play some fucking doom" image

>> No.1705731

>>1705039
>Heresiarch+arch-vile
HOLY FUCK,HOLY SHIT,HOLY CRAP

>> No.1705735
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1705735

>>1705716

ah snap, no no no, not in that kind of way.

I mean something like this

>player dies (no deathcam)
>pinky(ies) approach
>he does his melee animation near the enemy with optional crunch noises

or

>player dies (no deathcam)
>revenant approaches
>screams and just stands there.

I assume I would have to put something that spawns when the player dies and then that thing checks for enemies, when it sees one, it sort of "attacks" him and the monster reacts, or I dunno

>> No.1705736

>>1705039

Heresiarchvile seems like a natural name.

>> No.1705737

>>1705112
Overcharged Plasma shotgun+1 bulk and 1 power is god tier with renegade thanks to his perk

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1705748

>>1705674
superior

>> No.1705752

>>1705748
>ugly as shit hybrids

yeah nah

>> No.1705754

>>1705717
I like how that guy is looking like he's eating brains of the other guy.

>> No.1705757
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1705757

>>1705754

It's a great piece. Very raw, tons of emotion.

>> No.1705775

>>1705365
Hardcore DOOM Wars?
Whatever the fuck it is, WE NEED TO HOST A SERVER WITH IT

>> No.1705790

I just though of something, what if mancubus hellfire screamed?

>> No.1705791 [DELETED] 

>>1705754
Do not respond to the shitposter.

>> No.1705802
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1705802

Post some screenshots of your adventures and battles!

Pic related is Jenesis, played with Accessories To Murder, the mapset is a bit slow and droll in the beginning, but it really picks up speed just before the midway mark, map 31 was particularly enjoyable.

>> No.1705806

>>1705757
So did he just killl him and is suddenly realizing what he did?

>> No.1705808
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1705808

>>1705802
Found a fun bug in DRLA while playing it with Wonderful Doom. The downside is that supply crates are constantly dropping jetpacks now and there's nothing I can do about it, since I abandoned my antigrav boots in Episode 3.

>> No.1705813

>>1705717
no, you should boycott zdaemon on principle until it becomes open source. a closed source doom engine is an insult to the goodwill of the original developers and the rest of the source port development community.

>> No.1705817
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>>1705802
Just screwing around trying to pick which mod packs to use, which to carry around, and which to dump.

Question for other folks playing DRLA: What are you playing it with?

I'm trying to find more well-balanced wads that work well with DRLA. I'm currently playing Doom 2 Reloaded which is working well. I've noticed some mappers don't like Invisibility, which DRLA replaces with the wonderful supply crates. Others make maps with very little ammo, and I think the big ammo box spawns are where you find mod packs, so it's annoying when there aren't many.

>> No.1705818

Hmm I'm trying to get accross that the succubi running the circle of lust are geniuses, what's the best way design wise both sprite and environment

>> No.1705823

>>1705818
What?

>> No.1705829

>>1705420
what does it do?

>> No.1705834

>>1705717
Fuck I know how you feel.

Fuck these megaman games and whodunnit bullshit. I just want some pub CTF and FFA like the good old days.

>> No.1705836

>>1705823
Its for a large scale project I'm trying to start up, I did a heap of lore building and established that the succubi are hells scientists, all the encounters mortal have recorded, them gathering samples (fear not it grows back) so I was trying to work out the best way to make this come accross visually

>> No.1705850

>>1705817
I am working on DRL Chests just for that reason. Don't play with the latest one around though. Next one soon (as in a couple of hours).

>> No.1705852 [DELETED] 

>>1705717
>>1705726
>These two posts haven't been deleted?

Are you seriously gonna let this slip, mods?

>> No.1705875 [DELETED] 

>>1705852
Maybe they're letting them up just to let everyone else laugh at them.

>> No.1705891

I'm trying to make an enemie that fights with long tentacles, how do I do this with sprites?

>> No.1705923

>>1705891
Will it be immobile? Do you want the tentacles to physically swipe and grab/throw the player or just kinda whip him?

>> No.1705929

>>1705923
The enemie is mobile with doc ock style tentacles ending in needles that stab at the player

>> No.1705932

>>1705135
I think there's the Community Chest texture packs for you to use

>> No.1705938

So I see lots of material on classic doom remade in Doom 3, what about doom 3 levels remade in classic? Add some enemies that attack in force an it would be pretty cool

>> No.1705948
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>>1704685
>0:47

>> No.1705949

>>1705829
It's just an alternative attack it does when you're too far away/hiding behind enemies. Drains your health rapidly (Ignores armor) until you get behind solid cover.

If you get killed by it, it leaves behind a zombie based on your class.

>> No.1705952

>>1705929
Then you "just" have model the thing in 3d and convert to sprites for every angle and frame of motion.

>> No.1705964
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>>1705806

Basically, yes. Ivan the Terrible was known to lapse into coherent, psychotic rages.
One day, he goes into such a violent rage that he kills his son. He realizes what he's done, comes to, and desperately tries to keep the blood from gushing out of his son's head while begging him to stay with him.

Classic art didn't fuck around.

>> No.1706036

>>1705834
/vr/ plays ctf and ffa pretty regularly, more than WDI, which people got tired of a while ago and way more than MM8BDM which I think had one single server in the entire history of /vr/.

My favorite is probably Samsara CTF; it's not vanilla but it has a very vanilla feel and is more varied than vanilla CTF.

>> No.1706051

>>1706036
>which I think had one single server in the entire history of /vr/.

and it wasn't even /doom/'s, it was just a bunch of random /vr/oopers who were comprehensively unaware of the current state of the mod and how it devolved.

with that being said, if you ever want something to be played, well, DIY!

>> No.1706061 [DELETED] 

>>1706051
>if you ever want something to be played, well, DIY!

not everyone has the time to brown nose in irc to be able to be allowed to start servers on best ever dude...

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>>1705802
I decided to play DoomRL Arsenal on Whitemare. I spawn in MAP01, turn to the left for the chainsaw spawn and -- oh shit.

>> No.1706068

>>1706061
>brown nose in irc to be able to be allowed to start servers on best ever

Hah hah hah oh wow
Get a load of this fucking guy

>> No.1706073 [DELETED] 

>>1706068
what? I don't have a good pc to host and don't feel like sitting in a circlejerk for months to be given the privilege of creating servers

is that really so unbelievable?

>> No.1706075

>>1706061

Well, my deepest apologies, but tough shit. Complaining about what gets played on Zandro without doing something about it it's like complaining because the water in the ocean is too wet.

At this pace IDL won't change their minds for a bit.

>> No.1706085

>>1705952
Thanks

>> No.1706092

>>1705834
You do know that post was bait, right?

>> No.1706094

>>1704060
>play thy flesh consumed
>ambush doors full of imps
>multiple accurate shotgunners that pelts you from distance
>baron of hells in enclosed spaces
>baron of hells at distance with cacodemons
A few maps only possess real challenge, once you know the triggers and traps before it's easy. If you wanna pass somewhere safely savescumming is easy.

>play plutonia
>reach the 5th map
>2 baron welcomes you
>multiple chaingunners and revenants in open area with literally no where to cover
>fucking spider mastermind protecting the red key
>kill it and grab the key
>game tosses you more chain gunners on the way back with more revenants
>6th map
>clusterfuck of a fight at the exit room
>you have to fight cyberdemon at the end
>2 buttons that opens the exit doors across the room and they only appear when you use another trigger button
>7th map welcomes you with mancubi and barons
>and so on...
Less traps but more challenge and slaughterfest maps, you have to explore every secret and grab any health you can. Even when you savescum it may require you to take several tries and a plan to get out alive or mediocre conditions.

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>>1706073
>and don't feel like sitting in a circlejerk for months to be given the privilege of creating servers

OH FUCK ME YOU LEGITIMATELY BELIEVE THIS AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.1706118

>>1706061
>>1706073
You don't have to be given permission to make a server, you dense motherfucker.
Anyone can host, even if nobody knows or cares who the fuck they are.

>> No.1706137 [DELETED] 

>>1706118
>>1706114
I still have to go on irc and ask some admin to add me, correct?

then that still counts as asking permission even if they let anyone do it

and what if the admin isn't on? how long do I have to wait?

>> No.1706142

>>1706137
>I still have to go on irc and ask some admin to add me, correct?
no

>> No.1706146

>>1706137
Hey, next time, before you ask the stupidest fucking questions, READ THE DAMN FAQ

>> No.1706148

>>1706137
No, you don't. You make an account with NickServ and an account on Best-Ever's site. No admin activation needed.

>> No.1706149

>>1706137
>I still have to go on irc and ask some admin to add me, correct?
Go on IRC, yes. Make an account, yes (which is generally a good idea for anons anyway since it masks your IP and keeps others from tracking where you're from)
Ask an admin, no. The process is entirely automated.

Why in the world did you think there was any admin "permission" involved?

>> No.1706172

>>1706061
>>1706073
>>1706137
Why did these posts get deleted?

>> No.1706198

>>1706172
when the mods do it they usually delete replies so I can only assume that anon deleted his own posts out of shame after learning how wrong he was

>> No.1706206

>>1706198
>shame
>he's literally anonymous
>nobody would ever know it was him anyway
If that's the case he must be pretty thick.

>> No.1706221

>>1706206
Well, he did think that he needed admin permission that took "months of brown nosing" to get to be allowed to host servers, so he might be that thick. Hopefully he just assumed and never visited the Best Ever website because if he did and still thought that he is straight up retarded.

If he does end up creating servers I hope he waits a day or two so it isn't awkward when xXx_new_irc_user_xXx creates ":: [BE] New York :: /vr/ Dwango5 Vanilla DM" in an hour.

>> No.1706224

>>1705527
I was scared to play the first-person level in Toy Story, Doom probably would've given me a heart attack.

>> No.1706225

>>1706172
>>1706198

The mods have been known to leave helpful/contributive posts even if it's a shitposter.

For example, see >>1705754
and >>1705757

>> No.1706232

>>1706225
If it was mods they probably woulda deleted
>>1706068
>>1706114

>> No.1706314
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>Playing hellbound
>So far so good
>Reach Gates of Hell
>Loose all of my weapons
>Again
>For the third time already
>Shrug it and keep going, get the plasma rifle
>A ciberdemon
>A fucking ciber demon
>I have enough ammo to kill him alone if I don't waste a single bullet
>And a shit ton of monsters spawned with him
>Mfw

>> No.1706315
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1706315

So today I've been working on all kinds of stuff, like fixing up the stat randomizer so that it actually works and re-working how monster level/progression is handled. After I was done I decided to generate an OBLIGE mapset and go to town to test all the new changes. Welcome to MAP29, where I met this guy, who immediately wrecked my shit ten-fold and one-shotted me instantly for about 3800 damage.

Mission Complete.

>> No.1706319

>>1706315
So it'll be updated today or tomorrow then? Also, what gun? Looks like modification of an uzi.

>> No.1706330

>>1706319
Updated right now. You can check my Github page to see my updates, which I make a lot of btw. If you're using the launcher, simply hitting the update button will grab the very latest version.

https://github.com/Kyle873/DoomRPG

Also, it's a Plasma Uzi

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>>1706225
I agree, and I think it's good that the mods/janitors leave genuine quality posts like:

>>1705757
>>1705964

This was something I've never read about and it makes a powerful painting such as that even more interesting (and sorrowful).
Mods are good to /vr/.

>> No.1706358

>>1706314
>>And a shit ton of monsters spawned with him
Can you make them fight?

>> No.1706371
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1706371

Will fix drops or any other serious bugs but I guess I am done with it. Haven't tested this throughly so let me know what's broken.
Sometime in future will change graphix for powerup chests (and disappear effects) and maybe make bosses drop chests.

DoomRL Chests
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bx-OZG3OqlkwU0NJY0pNNWNSNDA/edit?usp=sharing
DoomRL Chests adds Chests to the game! What rougelike is complete without chests? None. So I took it upon myself to add chests.
There is quite a selection of chests which replace pickups on the map. Most chests drop what they replace. Mostly.
New items;
-Spent Ammo: From half dead batteries to magazines with 3 bullets.
-Fast/Good Food: Heals up to 50/100
-Armor Bits/Tools: Repair armor up to 25/75
-Junk: Makes you wonder why do they even exist

Chests!
Their sizes and contents vary, shoddier the chest looks, worse will be the drops. You have to approach chests and use them.
Health Bonus became a set of urns which need breaking, armor bonus are more likely to appear but could be a mod chest instead.

All large ammo pickups have a chance to be replaced with chests, with the rocket chest being huegest so it can provide some cover as well.
These chests will either drop large ammo (x1.5) or the ammo they replaced with something extra (weapon/recipe).

All guns (except chainsaw, shotgun and chaingun) replaced with weapon chests, which have a wider variety and drop some ammo to go with the gun.
So don't be shocked when some monsters from monsters addon start dropping chests.

All armor pickups replaced with Armor chests, both green and blue armor drops got a bump up in rarity. Chests will drop both armor and boots.

All powerups (except Blur and Backpack, which are already chests) come in a rather spiffy UAC crate now, drops rare stuff on top of powerup it replaces.

As usual take whatever you want from the archive.
took a ton of stuff from internets but forgot write credits down... so yeah. Thanks.

>> No.1706384

>>1706371
actually it should be "DoomRL Arsenal Chests"...

yeah just load the pk3 after DoomRL Arsenal and you... probably should be fine. I think.

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>>1705205

>> No.1706392

>>1704685
I don't get this. I read the FAQ but didn't find anything.

What's this mod supposed to do? Agitating a revenant in all directions in a buggy manner, and make it shoot unrelentlessly?
The buggy look is intentional or is it an actual bug?

Why? How is this even playable? I-I just dont get it.

>> No.1706395

>>1706392
The cvar that enables it is dakkamons_revenant_fuckyou.

That alone should give you an idea of what you're in for.

>> No.1706402

>>1706392

I don't know either, man, this just seems really stupid.

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>>1706315
Not bad, I'd personally do those torch indentations a little bit different though just so the textures line up a bit better. Probably something like this

>> No.1706412

>>1705836
Advanced AI, multiphasic encounters, communication, putting them in "intelligent" ambush spots.... I dunno.

>> No.1706413

>>1706402
>>1706395


Dakka is a mod for zandronum that makes all the guns more shootier.

Dakkamons is an addon to dakka that makes all the monsters more powerfullyer.

getrekt is a mode that makes the monsters unreasonably unfair to fight against
fuckyou is a mode each individual monster has that modifies their abilities to make them even crazier.

Dakkamons has a bevy of cvars that enables you to tweak the amount of health you gain from killing monsters, and the monsters' hp itself (you can set it so every monster starts with 1 hp), to offset the increased difficulty of getrekt and fuckyou modes.

>> No.1706414

>>1706407
Wait what? This was an OBLIGE generated level, I didn't actually create the level myself.

>> No.1706417

>>1706414
Ah, nevermind then

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>>1705180
>>1705183
>>1705187
>>1705190
>>1705192
>>1705194
>>1705203
>>1705204
>>1705205
>>1705206
Can someone give me a download link for this?

>> No.1706425

>>1706417
Although maybe that says something about the new versions of OBLIGE if people actually glance the level and think it was user-made.

>> No.1706427

>>1706414
Just linking your post because you're relevant.

Anyone else bothered by the fact a game that's old enough to drink, modded by a few people for free (DRPG, DRLA, DRLM, OBLIGE) makes a more compelling, fun, and replayable experience than any retail product in recent memory?

Don't get me wrong, it's awesome, but, what the fuck, game industry?

>> No.1706439

>>1706413

Thank you anon. I really wasn't getting anything.

This dakka mod documentation is hard to find googling didn't work[/spoilers]

>> No.1706446

>>1706427
>game industry

Industry is the keyword. Nobody has any of the pressures come with the "industry" over here.

>> No.1706447

What would you guys recommend for some sounds for the arm cannon's power up animation? I was thinking the pistons and clanking sounds from the Metal Slug tank, but they're kinda grainy.

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>>1706439
[goofing intensifies]

>> No.1706454

>>1706446
I understand that, but with the raw income many of them get I'm not sure that's an excuse anymore.

Like, why not make something that gamers are thrilled to throw money at indefinitely? If say (just spitballing) Borderlands was given the kind of time and attention these Doom mods were, I'd *happily* buy up all their endless DLC, and I think I'm not alone.

And imagine the passion and inventiveness of what we see here applied to modern games, dude. Gives me a semi just thinking about it.

>> No.1706458

>>1706371
I think the mod's broken.

Execution could not continue.

Script error, "DoomRL Chests.pk3:trashloot.txt" line 292:
Unexpected 'Picked up an armor piece.' in definition of 'TrashArmor1'

>> No.1706460

>>1706439
Dakka and Dakkamons don't have much information officially "out there" yet. ijon is waiting to finish this current build he's working on, and i think he'll release some info. Once he does, I'll have dakkamons ready to release with it.

I know Dakkamons looks really ridiculous and unplayable, but I'm specifically showing off the unplayable parts. But I understand that's not fun, so I included those cvars, and I'll be putting in cvar presets, to make it a bit easier to cope with those difficulty levels.

>> No.1706463

>>1706454
It's almost as if making a modern game is a hugely complicated thing that takes tens of thousands of man hours and millions of dollars and can not be compared to something people can do in their spare time or something.

>> No.1706468

>>1706463
It's almost as if so much time is spent on flashy tech toys, and overpowering marketing blitzes, that raw gameplay and interesting mechanics often fall by the wayside.

>> No.1706469

>>1706468
>It's almost as if so much time is spent on flashy tech toys, and overpowering marketing blitzes

Hey you just described every AAA ubisoft title in the past 8 years!

>> No.1706471

>>1706454
The sad thing is, I've spent the last 8 years of my life learning how to program and working on all kinds of different projects in the hopes that I'll get into the video game industry some day. But now, looking at the clusterfuck it has become, I'm suddenly wondering if that's really what I want to do anymore.

>> No.1706473

>>1706463
That's a good point though. I'm drunk, so forgive me if I don't make sense, but let's analyze that:

Modern games: lots of effort to enslave an existing engine or create a whole new engine, create all new content, create all new concepts, new story, market the shit, do things that justify the expenses of producing the thing in the first place.

Doom/Quake/Whatever mods: dudes who take a game which the manpower is already spent on and just improve on it.

So I guess we can look at it like:

modern game: the time it takes to produce it and the staff involved in the development.
mod : the time it takes to produce the base game + the time it takes to produce the mod. The original development team + the years of community resources and knowledge. Constantly improving, patching as a hobby, etc. etc..

I think the modding scene of video games in general isn't given enough credit. It really is logically the best place to go for quality gameplay. By its very nature, it will produce games that are more engaging and entertaining and just FUN than the latest commercial whatevers.

>> No.1706479

>>1706469
Ubisoft is master of the bait and switch.

God, the e3 shots of Farcry 3 were fucking GORGEOUS. Game? Meh. Watch_Dogs? Same deal.

Also UPlay can die in a fire, if I MUST have DRM, my DRM of choice is Steam. Origin isn't as obnoxious as UPlay, I just don't want 10 different programs on my computer. UPlay can die die die die DIE.

>>1706471
Fuck them, do exactly that, go indie with a few people like yourself. If you put something out like the mods I've seen from you, I can't imagine it not at least being a successful indie community game, ala Dwarf Fortress kinda shit.

I just don't see how a really good game crafted with lots of giveafuck and passion wouldn't be commercially successful (provided it, y'know, worked. Which I think is part of the giveafuck aspect).

>>1706473
Given that the industry in general is beholden, hell, damn near enslaved by consoles, I don't see the cost/benefit advantage of creating new engines for every game. It's not like we're allowed to push tech far, on the other side of the coin, not like we need to push the tech anywhere to make a compelling experience.

>> No.1706480

>>1706471
I think as the industry currently is, maybe you should consider just finding some job or occupation that you think is just interesting and giving enough, and then spend free time with modding vidya.

>> No.1706483

>>1706479
>Given that the industry in general is beholden, hell, damn near enslaved by consoles, I don't see the cost/benefit advantage of creating new engines for every game. It's not like we're allowed to push tech far, on the other side of the coin, not like we need to push the tech anywhere to make a compelling experience.

Yeah, we have a lot of great engines out there right now, and a lot of newer games are actually using them. We're entering into an era where amateur gamedevs can get ahold of high quality engines for cheap or free. So I guess my point about building new engines might be moot - we might be evolving past that, no?

>> No.1706487

>>1706483
One would hope. I'm a low tier amateur at this point (at best), but Unity seems pretty flexible/powerful, and that's free, Unreal suite is pretty strong, same deal there, and I've been dabbling around and dicking with others, and even not knowing what I'm doing I've accomplished a little.

>> No.1706496

>>1706458
Huh works fine with just DoomRL 7.1 and Hud...
What else did you load with it?

>> No.1706497

>>1703227
pirate doom got updated
added some new stuff
most important change is that chaingunners now have peg legs

>> No.1706505

>>1706496
It works fine with 7.3, is it DoomRPG?

>> No.1706509

Heads up that the DoomRL Arsenal Chests mod probably won't play nice with Doom RPG because they both fight over replacing of specific items.

>> No.1706519

>>1706509
I don't thin you can even launch Chests in Gzdoom...

>> No.1706524

>>1706519
You can. I originally did to test it out.

>> No.1706528

>>1706524
To be honest the best way to play it would be if either you or Yholl absorbs it into either one of the bigger wads.

>> No.1706529

>Playing Scyth, map 23
>Do the arch-vile jump trick
>Speedrun map 24 like a complete lunatic, I only kill the cyberdemon, the spider mastermind, and the arch-vile at the end.
>Get to map 25, start to feel bad about it

I wanna go back but goddamn 23 and 24 are completely ridiculous

>> No.1706531

>>1706528

The chances of that happening are quite low, almost nil.

>> No.1706532

>>1706496
I'm using 7.3 and HUD.

>> No.1706554

So, was thinkin bout hdoom, and the imp recolors that fill thr roles of the zombies so nicely, what sort of colors will the chaingunner replacments be?

>> No.1706559

>>1706371
Fantastic. This makes me appreciate engineer more, which I could never quite git gud with. It's funny how much chest placement fucks enemies over though.

>> No.1706563

Nuts.wad + bdcoop2 + doomrpg + doom RLA/RLM + gzdoom = my modern gaming computer falling to it's knees begging for mercy

odd part is, my CPU GPU and RAM utilization aren't even closed to maxed out, so it's odd that it's choking like this

>> No.1706568

>>1706563
>speaking of, relevant to my shitblogposting

Any semi-slaughtermaps for fucking around with doomRPG? Maybe Scythe?

>> No.1706570

>>1706563
ZDoom thing.
>>1706568
Sunder, maybe? Or Hell revealed 2, Memento Mori 2, etc.
Scythe levels are a wee bit too small for me, but dunno.

>> No.1706589

>>1706563
Doom RPG is extremely script intensive, anything past 1000 monsters may start to choke up.

>> No.1706625

>>1706531
To be honest it is just design decision about what gets replaced or not and copy pasting... a lot of copy pasting.

>> No.1706632

So am I the only one who feels like the middle part of Doom 2 is just kinda tedious? I mean after you get the BFG and have all the other weapons the game just sorta goes into this extended gauntlet of just plastering a million enemies everywhere with no real point and the level design just goes to crap.

If I understand correctly it picks back up around the last 3rd when it goes to the cities and then Hell, correct?

>> No.1706635

>>1706632
Actually it gets worse in the last third.

Much worse.
You get to deal with the Chasm, Mines and Bloodfalls.

>> No.1706638

>>1706635
Really? Fuck me. The quality just TANKED at The Pit and I'm seriously looking forward to the more open exploration levels. Are they seriously shitty? Are there any mods or megawads with good maps that aren't insanely difficult? I fucking love this game but some of the map design is just meh.

>> No.1706639

>>1706635
Not him but I just beat the level that opens with you having to pit the mastermind vs the cyberdemon, amI in the bad part of the game?

>> No.1706648

>>1706570
>Sunder, HR
How did I not think of these. Noted.

And yeah, Scythe is a little cramped a couple times.

>>1706589
Well, I have a beast rig, but it really starts to eat shit at 10,000 monsters all tightly packed like that.

>unrelated
why is 4chan/4chanx double-linking posts all the god damn time? Is it just me?

>> No.1706667

>>1706648
>why is 4chan/4chanx double-linking posts all the god damn time? Is it just me?
Doesn't happen to me. Using mayhem's.

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>>1706371
Oy, when I was playing the new version, I found an box that gave me a box. When I tried to open this new box, a box came out. Is this a glitch or an intentional joke?

>> No.1706709

>>1706639
Gotcha! is the last good level.
It's all downhill from here.

>> No.1706710

>>1706528

Making a mod just to try and ask the others to put it in their bigger mod?
Not cool, dude.

>>1706554

Chaingunners are in.

>> No.1706712

>>1706638
Scythe 1 and 2.
Has a moderate challenge and ramps up progressively.

Scythe 2 ramps up considerably faster once you hit the vine levels though.

Try map 20 for Doom 2 before you call it quits. That's a fairly nice level.

>> No.1706716

>>1706712
I assume there's a console command to put me at whatever map I want?

I love the idea of the city levels being really spread out and letting you just explore, and even Underhalls and Dead Simple were pretty cool just for having parts where you have to fight tons of shit but you have room to maneuver.

I'll check out Scythe as well thanks

>> No.1706721

>>1706716
Changemap Map20
Idclev20

If you want city levels then Hellbound has pretty much a full stock of them.
Also check out Whitemare 2.

>> No.1706726

>>1706721
Hellbound also looks stunning and has great atmoshpere.

>> No.1706728

Why is the fall of man difficulty hidden? I only just discovered it.

>> No.1706729

>>1706709
The living end isn't good? I really liked that one.

>> No.1706730

>>1706729
Somehow I always forget that one.

That one is pretty good, my bad.

But everything between Gotcha and that? No thank you.

>>1706716
So check out Map29 as well.

>> No.1706731

>>1706716
get After the Holocaust and Neighborhood of Hell. Two large and open city maps full of shit to explore made by the guy who made Brutal Doom.

>> No.1706732

>>1706728
Technically, it isn't finished yet.

Also, for anybody who's familiar with doing hyper-luck runs of Symphony of the Night (Starting with super max luck, zip in all other stats), boy do I have a treat for you.

https://github.com/Kyle873/DoomRPG/commit/943fb9d0420fbc09ce12b3c47381cff0c72179bb

Have fun getting wrecked. :)

>> No.1706734

>>1706728
It's supposed to have its own unique set of enemies. I don't think any of them are done yet, so it's hidden.

>> No.1706740

>>1706734
Another whole new set of enemies? Holy shit I am excited. I'm more excited about that than any other new games.

>> No.1706749

is the latest version of RPG doom compatible with the latest version of doom RLA and RLA monster pack?

>> No.1706752

>>1706749
You betcha. Me and Yholl work together for maximum compatibility.

And to yell at each other on Skype all the time, can't forget that.

Oh, also, don't forget, when running Doom RPG with DoomRL Arsenal, there's an extra option in the Doom RPG options menu for full compatibility that needs to be turned on. A lot of people seem to miss this so I figured I better point it out.

>> No.1706759

>>1706731
>made by the guy who made Brutal Doom
Sounds fucking sick, since Brutal Doom is what I'm playing on right now. Thanks for the suggestions guys. I'm a little relieved I'm not the only one bothered by the maps, usually if you have anything negative to say about a classic game on 4chan you get shit on by everyone.

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>>1706752
I try to use the RPG launcher to launch it with RLA and RLA monster pack, but it just gives me picks related
also when I look in the RPG-master folder with all the extras I only found .txt files in the RLA and monster folders so I put the WADs in the folders but it still didnt work
I love both of your mods but I could never get them to work together.

>> No.1706765

>>1706759
>usually if you have anything negative to say about a classic game on 4chan you get shit on by everyone.
nah, it's a pretty commonly held opinion that doom 2 level design was all over the place, and that e1 of doom 1 was the best design wise

>> No.1706769

>>1706759
Different guy but I'm looking at the sperglord edition and I gotta say I'm liking the refinements being mad, my plan is to wait until after V20 is out and see what the SL edition does with it

>> No.1706779

>>1706759
Doom 2's maps were p. bad honestly
Even the most avid Doom fanboys will tell you that.

>> No.1706782

>>1706764
Ah, simple problem. You've got old vars lingering in your INI file. Go in there and delete every line starting with "drpg_" and try re-launching to let it generate the var list again.

>> No.1706795

>>1706782
I realized I am a massive retard and I actually had to put RLA wads in the WAD/pk3 path of the launcher so im just now catching up on the fun

>> No.1706797

>>1706765
E1 of Doom was pretty great, I've played through to about halfway through Ep2 and it's starting to feel like mazes for the point of Mazes again. E1 had cool maps though

>> No.1706820

>>1706797
e1, e4, most of plutonia, first third of doom 2, and a few other spots are my favorites

>> No.1706857
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/l64r54fsobxj3ch/Samsara_DPS_Sheet.pdf

God damn Corvus and Security Officer fucking wreck shit up.

>> No.1706880

So I just finished DOOM 2, what's next? Any good WADs to try specifically afterwards? I'm really not sure where to start, I suppose a setting change would be interesting.

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>>1705350
Like Duke Nukem 3D's pod girls? Creepy with a tinge of kinky?

>> No.1706887

>>1706880
Plutonia/Final Doom

>> No.1706890

what are some good assemblies for the plasma rifle in RLA?

>> No.1706891

>>1706880
Both Final Doom IWADs followed by Doom64EX

>> No.1706892

>>1706890
ATT is hyperblaster. It looks neat.

>> No.1706894

>>1706696
No,you just got the inception RNG

>> No.1706902

>>1706886
Most likely

>> No.1706908

>>1706890
I like the High Power plasma rifl (PB).

>> No.1706912

>>1706890
can't go wrong with nanomachic

>> No.1706914

>>1706890
Personally I go high power (BP) then firestorm on the HP version, no idea if that's even close to optimal.

Oh, wait, I'm talking laser, and I usually save up and buy a minigun to do that to before.

>> No.1706917

>>1706890
>High Power
>PB
Good for pretty much anything, even better if you're marine to offset the smaller magazine.
>Hyperblaster
>ATT
Also a good choice, takes away the delay when you stop firing, not sure exactly what else is different from plasma rifle. Also has an awesome sprite with a glowy thing.
>Plasma Rifle MKII
>BBT
Slower autofire, 2 ammo per shot, great damage. No benefit from Marine passive, so consider something else if you are one.
>Burst
>PBB
Mostly just fun. Fires 3 very fast shots per click, reduced accuracy. Marines consume 1 ammo per burst.
>Plasma Refractor
>PPPS
Strange one, only made it once. Fires a shot that explodes when it impacts something, sending miniplasma bits in a radial pattern. Neat for room clearing I guess.

>> No.1706925

So I decided that two stats for monsters wasn't enough, and I'm in the process of re-writing monster stats to use the same set of stats as the players do. That means they'll be more randomized, and MUCH more deadly. A max level Shadow enemy by default has about 10x damage, 90% damage resistance, 8x health, the ability to increase it's own stats, massive health regen, super ninja speed, etc.

If you kill the fucker though, they'll turn into lootsplosion central and give you all kinds of good stuff.

Also, in general, enemies with auras will be much rarer in the beginning, as whether an enemy has an aura or not is determined by randomization which heavily takes into account their Energy stat.

also inb4 I am an evil bastard

>> No.1706930

>>1703227
What kind of hairstyle does Doomguy even have?

From the front it looks like he has an overgrown crew cut that strangely gets longer the more hurt he is, but from the side it looks like its combed to the side.

>> No.1706932

>>1703814
If something is non profit how the fuck can it be illegal?

>Streets of Rage Remake will never be finished

>> No.1706935

>>1706932
Isn't SORR v5 already "Complete"? It felt like it had everything it needed.

>> No.1706938

>>1703814
That's why Interceptor's Duke3D remake got canned, right?

>> No.1706945

>>1706930
>Chocolate starfish

>> No.1706956

>>1706908
>>1706917
just got a nuclear plasma rifle so i'll use that instead
what good assemblies are there for the nuclear plasma rifle?

>> No.1706968

>>1706956
According to the pasta,
http://pastebin.com/mG7F9ktg
the only options are HP, Burst, and Assault. HP is probably the way to go, assuming you're a marine. If you can find a Nuclear BFG, having both gives a faster charge rate passive.

>> No.1706969

>>1706968
Actually, pretty sure last time I tried to HP the Nuclear Plasma Rifle it basically became the alt-fire from DoomRL. So you might not want that.

>> No.1706973

>>1706969
I think you're thinking of the High-Power Nuclear BFG, which needs Bulk mods to function as expected and explodes violently otherwise.

>> No.1706983

>>1706425
oblige is why i gave up mapping, it would take me weeks in yadex to do what oblige can do in seconds. i want to make my own layout and have oblige detail it

>> No.1706984

>>1706632
this is why you play from pistol starts. carrying weapons forward trivialises the following maps.

>> No.1706985

>>1706984
How is a pistol start supposed to help when the problem is purposefully obtuse layout and hordes of enemies just for the sake of hordes of enemies?

>> No.1706994

>>1706938
yes.. but Interceptor's Duke3D remake could never be confused with a Gearbox game due to how much higher quality it would be

>> No.1706995

>>1706968
>having both gives a faster charge rate passive
not anymore, now you need a specific armor.

>> No.1706997

>>1706985
shrug, you complained of tedium, i attributed that to you having resources that trivialise all the battles. if you want trivially solvable map layouts i don't know what to tell you.

>> No.1707000

>>1706997
I'd rather have large explorable maps, not mazes where you just walk around clicking every wall to advance while two thousand Imps spawn behind you when you do

>> No.1707001

>>1706994
I look at what became of Forever and at Duke as a character, and think they got the theme all wrong, they kept trying to update it, and the game often makes jabs at Duke being a relic, giving the impression that its supposed to be "see, duke can keep up, he's still got it" but this is terrible, aside from everything else it implies that Duke is the one needing to keep up with the world, Classic Duke is timeless, he doesn't need ti keep up, the world needs to keep up with him, the game should have pitteted him initially against modern gaming style enemies but with Duke using all his classic shooter methowds and winning, then the enemies get smarter and better as the game would go on

>> No.1707003

>>1706997
>i attributed that to you having resources that trivialise all the battles.

This is like attributing someone's migraine to an alligator gnawing on their foot.

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>>1706995
Aww damn.

>> No.1707009

>>1707001

The problem is that in Forever Duke's abilities are treated as completely 100% serious, who is legitimately the most badass man on the planet who can do everything and succeeds at everything and does it with style and flair.
This is not only not what Duke is, it is also a boring fucking character archetype.

>> No.1707013

>>1707000
large explorable maps. hmm, such as refuelling base, the factory, downtown, the inmost dens, industrial zone, tenements, the citadel...

the only "two thousand imps spawn behind you" map is suburbs. circle of death and gotcha are more like setpieces, although both are also quite large, and, er, explorable.

>>1707003
your analogy is like being shot into space on the back of a giant banana.

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lets play tricks and traps

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>Unfortunately, I no longer require the dedicated server that runs BE, and paying $150/month for something that I don't need eventually does add up. Unless I somehow run into a sudden influx of cash, I'll officially shut down the service on June 29th, 2014. I might eventually re-host it to a lesser extent (maybe), but it's not looking very likely at the moment. Since the project is open source, anyone can feel free to clone the repository and host their own version using their own resources.

Best Ever is kill.

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>>1707015

>> No.1707020

>>1707009
Not him, but I've been thinking of looking into Duke 3D, but have been intimidated by Forever being awful, can you quickly spell out to me what Duke as a character is and isn't?

>> No.1707023

>>1707019
>tfw first killed the Cyberdemon by spamming rockets through the door for ten minutes because didn't realize those were invulnerability pickups

>> No.1707025

>>1707020
Duke 3D is goddamn amazing, and nothing like what Forever was. It was basically the pinnacle of FPS' back in '96 since it had both a great engine, great gameplay, and Duke as a character is (was?) a total fucking badass.

>> No.1707028

>>1707025
I just headcanon that Duke is in space having space adventures with space babes, the one in forever is a defective clone

>> No.1707029

How can I make Steam launch chocolate doom instead of running it's built-in dosbox? Editing the batch files that everywhere seems to point to isn't actually working.

>> No.1707031
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>>1707020

Duke is: A pastiche of 80s/90s action/anti-heroes.
Duke is not: A parody of 80s/90s action/anti-heroes.
Duke is: A man who run and guns, who snarls, speaks in gravely voices, and has a one-liner for every situation.
Duke is not: A walking god in a red tanktop and blue jeans who succeeds at everything he does with flying colors.
Duke is: A badass who, despite his massive ego, is still a good guy willing to fight the good fight for the lesser people.
Duke is not: A self-obsessed douchebag who only cares about people if they have tits and aren't stuffed with alien goo.
Duke is: An ordinary man pushed to unthinkable deeds by sheer force of will alone.
Duke is not: A fucking genetically-altered military super-soldier experiment.
Duke is: Fond of women. Likes strong/badass women. Has said being a sub is "My kind of party".
Duke is not: Abusive to women. Obsessed with blonde tee-hee giggling anime schoolgirls. Oozing pheromes that makes all of them drop to their knees begging for a taste of his dick.
Duke is: Kind of an idiot, but doesn't matter because you don't need to solve calculus in order to wreck shit.
Duke is not: An awe-inspiring god figure immune to mistakes and wrong answers.
Duke is: King of the world, baby.
Duke is not: Literally the king of the world.

>> No.1707034

>>1707023
heh. i can't remember the first time i did t&t. but i do remember the first time i did the courtyard, i went around carefully setting off one trap at a time.

>> No.1707038

>>1707031
>Has said being a sub is "My kind of party".
really, when?

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>>1707020
Check this out

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>>1703227
anyone wanna play DOOM multiplayer?
I can't find anyone to play with

>> No.1707041

>>1707038
In 3D Atomic Edition there's a BDSM club with a woman who calls him "dog" and tells him "on your knees".
Duke responds "My kind of party. Wish I had time".

>> No.1707043

>>1707031
On the likes badass women thing, that reminds me of one of the build forever had, it was going to give him a co op partner, her name was Bombshell, I don't know much but I know that she wasn't vapid or stupid

>> No.1707045

>>1707031
This. What the fuck was up with him acting like a psychopath in Forever?

>finds his two girlfriends raped and about to die

>laughs and blows their brains out

>> No.1707047

>>1707031
Douk is the wit of Bruce Campbell, the masculinity of Arnold Schwarzzenegger and the voice of Clint Eastwood combined.

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>>1707017
Oh god damn it.
I just got back into Doom a month ago.

>> No.1707049

>>1707045
He didn't laugh. He actually sounded sad and I think he even said he was sorry that he had to kill them.

The only laughing in the Hive level (which was my favorite in the game) was when you used the wall titties

>> No.1707052

>>1707045
Now to be absolutly fair, that's a freaking mercy killing, and he is pissed that the aliens would to that to "our babes", the joke though does make him seem like a collossal ass though, even worse is that the player idnt told to shoort them, and some plays I saw just have him watch as they pop like zits into alien spawn

>> No.1707056

>>1706480
yeah this is what I'm doing, my job sucks but reading up on the crunch period of games makes it look like a fucking cakewalk. Who actually wants to work 12 hour days 7 days a week? especially since nowadays it's fairly common to just fire a bunch of poor fuckers once the product's shipped.

>> No.1707057

BE is going the fuck down, with VERY little notice as well. I'm shocked and saddened. It truly was the best ever.

>> No.1707062

>>1707045
Ill be honest, I kinda hated the twins, and had hoped they'd die, but not like that, that was... that was just evil

>> No.1707067

>>1707057
wow i thought >>1707017 was a troll and reported it. oops, sorry.

>> No.1707070

>>1707056
They took a process that warrents individual craft, and turned it into a factory line, its like demanding davinci to paint 50 monalisas in a day every day

>> No.1707075

>>1707067

Nope. Check the website.
http://best-ever.org/

>> No.1707078

>>1707070
Yeah, but I take some comfort in knowing that I'll always have good FPS to play because of Duke and Doom modding even if the industry does crash and burn. I mostly ignore the AAA industry, the only games I can name off the top of my head I care about are KF2 and The Phantom Pain.

>> No.1707081

>>1707075
hmm, it might not be entirely true after all. apparently the server is moving somewhere else.

http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=713&page=8#pid66513

>> No.1707086

HOLY FUCK THE HIGH POWERED MINIGUN IN RLA IS SO GODDAMN STRONG
but even as a marine it uses up a shit ton of ammo, is there any way to counteract this with modpacks?

>> No.1707089

>>1707086
Put power mods on it for even better damage at the same ammo cost.

>> No.1707090 [DELETED] 

>>1707043
she has her own game now and is a tumblr drag queen feminazi

>> No.1707095

>>1707041
Not a BDSM club, a porn studio. He says it when you stumble on set and find 3 girls. 2 on the bed and a third off to the side with a riding crop.

>> No.1707101 [DELETED] 

>>1707095
>>1707041

>> No.1707103

>>1707031
>>1707038

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AECJvfPUgbg

>> No.1707106

Man heretic is fun as fuck

>> No.1707114

>>1707103
from this video it appears he is describing the whole scene as his kind of party, not specifically being a sub. i think >>1707031 is a misrepresentation.

>> No.1707123

I've been curious about Blood.
Should I give it a pirate?

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>>1707123
Yes, its fun. But there's still no proper source port avaiable because the source code has not been revealed yet.
And prepare to die a few dozens times playing the first time, Blood is quite difficult if you're new to it.

Might as well give ZBlood a try. Boy, it kinda sucks...

>> No.1707134

>>1707129
Alrighty! I'll just look up a GOG torrent and get on it. Heard Caleb is a pretty cool dude.

>> No.1707163

>>1707134
More than anything, blood has really cool level design. It's odd really, level design is one thing that hasn't improved at since the early 2000's. With some exceptions like MInerva: metastasis.

>> No.1707184

>>1707134
Blood is fantastic.

Unless you have Arachnophobia, that shit has terrifying spiders.
Second only to Dark Messiah.

>> No.1707249

>>1706710
>Making a mod just to try and ask the others to put it in their bigger mod?
>Not cool, dude.

For DoomRpg compatibility since it is a mod for DoomRL Arsenal, not RPG. I guess I misworded, if either of RL or RPG dudes want compatible chests, they can use code/gfx as they want. As a matter of fact anyone can use them for whatever they want.

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>>1707184
I have arachnophobia, but I managed by just not letting them get at me, always staying running when they're around, tommygun was good for them. Never once got them to latch onto my face.

Game was balls to the wall hard though, even on low settings.

GOG DosBox setup works well enough I found.

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Doomguy said he wants to be a plane.

So he became A-10 Warthog.
the moment I started playing with this set you should be able to touch my sides.

>> No.1707436

Making new thread

>> No.1707446

And here

>>1707443
>>1707443
>>1707443

>> No.1708613

Guys, I'm a casual.

I love the way weapons feel in Doom, and shooting enemies is satisfying. But I don't like the maze gameplay of Doom. I'm too impatient, and the payoff doesn't seem that great - I get to go to another level and get lost on that one instead, or skip ahead a few levels.

Even with a map and a source port, I'd rather not have to deal with all these fucking mazes.

Maybe if the map had a casual-approved objective marker, like all the modern FPSs that you probably hate?

In before absolutely disgusting

>> No.1708626

>>1708613

So play Invasion.

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