/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1692260]

Is there a reason FF5 Four Job Fiesta threads keep getting deleted?

I'm just wondering if it's against the rules or something

[Anonymous No.1692290]

No clue, doesn't seem to me like it'd be against the rules.

Anyway, got Black Mage as my first job, which is pretty good I guess.

[Anonymous No.1692297]

i posted the twitter reg thing and i dunno what to do at this point

[Anonymous No.1692301]

>>1692297
I think the twitter bot is lagging.

Check http://fourjobfiesta.com/players.php for your job maybe

[Anonymous No.1692341]

>>1692260
They keep getting deleted because OP never fucking explains what it is.

[Anonymous No.1692350]

>>1692341

the last one that got deleted had links to the main site and a big infodump. I'd never even heard of it and I figured it out pretty easy.

[Anonymous No.1692368]

>>1692350
Never underestimate what mods consider not-retro when stuff like twitter gets involved, if you're seriously wondering why these threads are getting deleted.

See you in three days.

[Anonymous No.1692393]

> he does it for free

Mods are faggots

[Anonymous No.1692395]

>>1692260
And what the fuck is a four job fiesta?

[Anonymous No.1692421]

>>1692395
Its what I gave your mom last night

[Anonymous No.1692451]

>>1692395
Basically the jist of it is you start the game, and you get randomly assigned 1 job per crystal, and your characters can only be that job.

So once you unlock all 4 of your jobs 1 person has to be 1 of those jobs at any given time.

So lets say (I don't actually know what jobs are what off the top of my head)

You get assigned
>Monk
>Redmage
>Beastmaster
>Dragoon

All your dudes must be monks, then once you get Bluemage you have to use at least 1 monk and 1 bluemage, then once you get beastmaster you have to use at least 1 monk, 1 bluemage, and 1 beastmaster, then so on and so on.

You can mix abilities from your jobs freely, so if you had the above you could give all your Blue mages Martial Arts.

[Anonymous No.1692473]

Don't particularly want to get a twitter and register or anything but I love FFV and am positively addicted to challenge runs. Maybe I'll just roll up some jobs on my own or start a different challenge out of solidarity. I am just happy to see that so many people still have an interest in this amazing game and it is helping charity.

[Anonymous No.1692476]

>>1692473
Yeah I wish there was a non twitter registration thing. I don't use twitter and I hate making accounts on shit like twitter, tumblr, pinterest and all that garbage.

If they had some site where it was like
>Heres your unique ID
>Heres your job set
>Have fun, post a screen shot and your ID to whatever

I'd do it, but holy balls fuck twitter.

[Anonymous No.1692509]

>>1692476

If it's not on twitter then it's not trending, and if it isn't trending then they get far less donations and coverage.

I for one am happy they're trying to raise as much money as they can for charity. I never use twitter but I signed up last year expressly for this, once you turn off email notifications it really isn't a huge deal.

[Anonymous No.1692523]

I picked a random run and I just got my fire crystal job. I have Monk, Thief and... Berserker. This is going to be quite the challenge.

[Anonymous No.1692534]

This looks interesting. What's the difference in the different types of runs? What's team 750?

[Anonymous No.1692614]

Just registered. Got Blue Mage job for first. What a start! can't remember what I got last year but I remember nearly giving up very early

[Anonymous No.1692648]

>>1692614
Blue Mage is probably the single best job you can roll first honestly.

>Kinda weak physically, but can equip shields and have decent evade
>decent nukes
>decent heals and buffs
Only issue is learning shit you need to know when and where the mobs pop, and invest in !learning

>People bitching about Berserker
Berserker is actually fucking strong man. Its not "fantastic" but its a strong class if you're going to physically attack only anyways, especially once you get the gaia hammer and shit like that.

[Anonymous No.1693045]

>>1692648
Last year I got Blue Mage, Mystic Knight, Hunter and Samurai. That's 1 job away from the overall best dream team, and Samurai's aren't so bad either.

This year I start with Thief. Guess I used up my luck last year.

[Anonymous No.1693159]

I got
Black Mage
Red Mage
Bard
Dancer

How fucked am I for my run tomorrow /vr/?

[Anonymous No.1693172]

>>1693159
You got the fabulous party.

Black Mages early should be relatively easy, BM/RM would be kind of hard at some place I think, but you should be alright, I never used Bard so I wouldn't know and Dancer is Dancer. If you get some powerful daggers it should be fun.

If you play alright and plan ahead, you shouldn't have too much problems.

[Anonymous No.1693240]

>>1693172
Got it thanks, I have played before and I think Red Mage is better than it sounds because at least I have healing. Also check out this stream setup for when I stream it

[Anonymous No.1693264]

>>1692260

>let's make a simple game even simpler!

[Anonymous No.1693282]

>>1693264
>i love ff7 and cocks in my mouth so much

Go away.

[Anonymous No.1693290]

>>1693282
It's advertising.

Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.1693292]

>>1692341
> OP never fucking explains what it is.
www.google.com
>>1692395
>And what the fuck is a four job fiesta?
www.google.com

Do you think that asking in a post is easier than searching yourself, or are you being intentionally obtuse?

[Anonymous No.1693347]

>>1693292
>Not having precreated information ready when advertising something.

Yeah, I know what the 4JF is, but if I didn't, I would've probably scrolled right past the page, unless I had some really heavy interest in FF5. It's no surprise these threads are so slow when the community doesn't go out of their way to inform others what's up.

[Anonymous No.1693365]

Is there anything in the universe more funny than what you just said?

[Anonymous No.1693937]

>>1693159

You're only supposed to roll a job once you get to the crystal.

That way you can't ahead of time buy up a bunch of magic or stock up on rods because you know you'll get a rod breaker later.

[Anonymous No.1693943]

>>1692260

Probably holy knight reporting it because it interferes with his game that he will ban you from

[Anonymous No.1694014]

>>1693937
If you pre-registered like I did, you get your classes ahead of time

[Anonymous No.1694020]

>>1694014

I pre-registered, the only time you get all your jobs should be in the event of a classic run.

Normal\Random is crystal by crystal.

[Anonymous No.1694025]

>>1694020
Okay I confess, I got all my jobs before hand so I could make the stream display with all the jobs at the side, and not worry about changing it once the stream started.

Please forgive me anon.

[Anonymous No.1694080]

>>1693347
See >>1692350
>the last one that got deleted had links to the main site and a big infodump

[Anonymous No.1694086]

>>1694080

The one before that as well but it was pruned.

I don't have the dump to hand or I'd repost it for everyone.

[Anonymous No.1695286]

>>1693292
I was the OP for the last 2 threads, and this one. I provided links http://archive.foolz.us/vr/thread/1692195/#1692195 but they kept getting deleted, so I created this thread asking why it keeps getting deleted, and surprisingly it doesn't.

[Anonymous No.1695364]

>>1693347
Okay, so you just pretending to be an idiot, congrats.

This is a slow board, not /v/.

[Anonymous No.1695416]

Sorry, what is this?

[Anonymous No.1695436]

>>1695416
A challenge-run of FFV, where you're randomly allocated 4 out of the 20+ jobs FFV has. It's a really fun challenge, and not very difficult like most self-imposed challenges. It forces you to explore jobs that you may not have normally used, and you end up with some pretty quirky combinations that still allow you to beat the game without too much trouble

[Anonymous No.1695439]

>>1695436

Is it a patch that gives you the job from the start or do you just pick them yourself?

I just did the lvl1 challenege on IX so I'm looking for something new

[Anonymous No.1695442]

>>1695439
No patch required. You do need to get a twitter account, but you it's just for communicating with the admin-bot to get your randomly allocated jobs. Everyone's jobs are listed here: http://fourjobfiesta.com/players.php

It's fun cause people all around the world are tackling the same challenge as you, but with similar/different jobs!

[Anonymous No.1695695]

Now I'm up to Thief and Summoner. I might survive this yet.

[Anonymous No.1695764]

Can you level up other jobs for the passive shit?
Or are you just locked with the ones you get?

[Anonymous No.1695776]

>>1695764
Nope, just the ones you have. You can mix and match within your own 4 jobs.

[Anonymous No.1695794]

>>1695776
What about the order of the bosses?
Can I clear the game and then reload and kill Shinryu?
I really don't want to be the last faggot to end the challenge.

[Anonymous No.1696202]

>>1695794
Any order. I'm pretty sure I defeated Ex-Death before attempting the secret bosses last year

[Anonymous No.1696221]

I'm rolling for each class as I get the crystals. I'm up to Knight, Red Mage and Ninja so far. There is no challenge to this run and I'm thinking about just restarting.

[Anonymous No.1696406]

So I have a habit of savestating when I quit for the night as a failsafe against saves fucking up

This bit me in the ass when I accidentally loaded a savestate from the previous day, four hours of gametime into the past

Time to redo the steamship and ancient library, and also get all those blue mage powers again ;_;

[Anonymous No.1696524]

>>1692260
>>1692297
>>1692368
Methinks it's because of advertising. This one at least is being kept up though, probably because it doesn't look like an ad.

BTW, is only the SNES version applicable?

[Anonymous No.1696562]

>>1696524
Any version is fine.

[Anonymous No.1696758]

woo gilgamesh 3 on the third try gonna wreck that booty

[Anonymous No.1696787]

>>1696758
>chemist with !critt
what the hell are you doing?

[Anonymous No.1696798]

Thank god I got BM as my last job, thought I was going to end up going through the entire game with a completely physical party. Still, I feel like this is going to be a challenge.

[Anonymous No.1696904]

>>1696798
Have fun having no healing

[Anonymous No.1696909]

>>1696904
Real men don't need no healing.

[Anonymous No.1696982]

>>1693045
My team last year was Blue Mage, Mystic Knight, Ninja & Chemist. OP as fuck.

This year I'm starting with... Blue Mage. Even if I should get two Berserkers (because RISK), this should be a cakewalk.

Blue Mage ladies & gentlemen, jack of all trades, master of most of them.

[Anonymous No.1697216]

Does thief have any redeeming qualities?

[Anonymous No.1697231]

>>1697216
Well, you can steal stuff, obviously. You can get some pretty good shit earlier than normal for your other dudes by stealing. Mug is useful if you get the chicken knife, because it doesn't set off the flee command. I'm not entirely sure if that's in all versions of the game, but it probably is.

[Anonymous No.1697326]

would anyone be interested in watching a stream? i'm in the great forest of moore right now

[Anonymous No.1697572]

>>1696982
The nice part about Blue Mage is that he's easy-mode without being broken. And you earn your power since you have to go out and hunt for those skills.

[Anonymous No.1697575]

>>1696982
>blumage
don't forget to equip the excalipoor for maximum goblin punch

[Anonymous No.1697702]

Thief Summoner Geomancer fuck

[Anonymous No.1697737]

>>1697702
enjoy your side quests

[Anonymous No.1697776]

What's the shittiest possible group? Thief Berserker Something Something?

[Anonymous No.1697821]

>>1696904
With that party he can just equip gear that absorbs elements and use the black mage spells on the party.

>>1697776

You can technically get a thief and 3 berserkers. Most people will never experience this pain.

[Anonymous No.1697891]

>>1697737
I don't mind the side quests. Also my final line up is Thief Summoner Geomancer Dancer.

Fuck everything. Is there any hope left in man?

[Anonymous No.1697969]

JESUS FUCK
WHY ISN'T GHIDRA CASTING FUCKING GRAVITY LEVEL 4

I NEED BLUE MAGE POWERS DAMMIT

[Anonymous No.1698010]

>>1697969
And I just realized Death Claw paralyzes enemies

[Anonymous No.1698035]

What is Natural Crystals only? Does it mean that I cannot get 3 same jobs in a row?

[Anonymous No.1698047]

>>1698035
Natural means that each character has to use their crystal's respective job, ie Bartz has the Wind crystal job, Lenna the water, etc. Everyone is a freelancer until they get their crystal, and they stay that job for the rest of the game. Also you can't break rods if you have classes with the ability to do so.

I'm pretty sure the only way to end up with more than one of the same job is if you signed up with a Berserker risk.

[Anonymous No.1698051]

>>1698047
Thanks. I applied a couple of minutes ago and ended up with Blue Mage for my first job. Holy shit this will be a breeze.

[Anonymous No.1698057]

>>1692648
>decent heals and buffs
that are nigh impossible to get unless you can manage to confuse a monster
which won't be easy

[Anonymous No.1698061]

>>1693240
>iOS version
barf

[Anonymous No.1698084]

>>1697821
Thief is actually pretty useful, and would actually be good to have on such a team. You can steal higher grade healing items, not to mention Instant Death weapons long before they become available in shops.

The worst setup is probably a Knight with three Berserkers, though that also has its advantages. A friend of mine got that party during the first year with Berserker Risk. While he did finish the challenge he definitely had a hard time.

[Anonymous No.1698173]

just got the white mage
BLINDED BY THE LIGHT

[Anonymous No.1698180]

Already cleared my White Mage/Berserker/Ninja/Berserker run. Not too exciting with two Whites healing while berserkers dish out damage most of the time, with Throw providing extra AoE damage when needed.

[Anonymous No.1698234]

Can someone here tell me what stat blue magic is based on? Does it use both magic and strength, or only one of the two?

[Anonymous No.1698240]

>>1698234
They all use MagPwr, aside from Goblin Punch which is based on your weapons.

[Anonymous No.1698356]

>>1692648
Berserker is underrated, I usually have my characters learn Berserk then I put it on better physical classes and there you go pure Powerhouse and I'm too lazy to move the cursor to attack.

[Anonymous No.1698538]

>first job Black Mage
>reach Galufa
>get stomped without chipping more than 800HP each time
I don't want to resort to grinding, and the only other way to do it is to change jobs so I guess I have to be a filthy casual and grind some.
Everyone's lvl9 by the way.

[Anonymous No.1698551]

>>1698538
Haven't done Galura with 4 black mages, but 4 white mages had a pretty easy time without having to grind, despite the fight taking 15 minutes. Everyone's in the back row and you have enough potions to go around, right?

If you're having that much trouble, you could break the Ice Rod you got in the North Mountain town in a pinch, since you can buy more at Karnak right after.

[Anonymous No.1698562]

>>1698551
Well, this is going to be my 10th try and I've tried going balls to the wall, only using potions when low on health, having 1 guy dedicated to potions, having 2 dedicated to potions, and so far the one that worked the best was to just go all out and hope to do the most damage.
I'll try this one time again like this and the next one I'll have 3 guys throwing potions and one doing the damage.
What kills me is that after the third turn he starts doing 2-3 attacks and that's usually fatal if he targets only one of them.

[Anonymous No.1698576]

>>1698551
Also it blew my mind it's Galura and not Galufa.
Shit after all these years of saying it wrong, I must have looked stupid.

[Anonymous No.1698592]

I'm doing a Natural run, my Butz is a Thief now. So far he's doing alright, but I have a feeling that he will be a dead weight in the endgame

[Anonymous No.1698595]

>>1698551
The docks in Carwen have a hidden chest with an Ice Rod in it. Take it and break it on Garula to OHKO him.

[Anonymous No.1698626]

I finally did Garula by just throwin pots till the boss decided to only attack once and then let go of one spell.
It did take more than 12 minutes thought.
Anyway now I have Magic Knight as second job, if I don't recall that bad they were ok but had to lose a turn to actually start doing some damage.

[Anonymous No.1698717]

>>1698626
Mystic Knights are busted. You can one shot one part of Neo Exdeath with a break sword. Having to take a turn to do something is a minor, minor setback.

[Anonymous No.1698721]

>>1698717
I didn't know that, though, I never really used a Mystic Knight for too long.

[Anonymous No.1698726]

>>1698721
Understandable. MK is a fun class, really. You're going to abuse elemental weaknesses and have some physical oomph behind your attacks. Shit's going to be awesome.

[Anonymous No.1698742]

>>1698084
What affects the steal chance? Is it just pure RNG?

[Anonymous No.1698748]

>>1698742
The steal chance is 40%. Thief Glove increases that to 80%. A rare steal is ~6% (on a succesful steal). Nothing except the Thief Glove changes the odds.

[Anonymous No.1698762]

>>1698592
Just use Build Up with the chicken knife, the escape command should make it double easy to get.

[Anonymous No.1698769]

>>1698762
It's Natural, though, so no Build Up for the thief.

[Anonymous No.1698779]

>>1698769
Whoops, meant Mug. The steal and attack command, it shouldn't activate the chicken knife retreat

[Anonymous No.1698802]

>>1698748
My attempts to steal are failing way more than 60% of the time.

[Anonymous No.1698807]

>>1698802
one of the first things I did with my thief is try to steal a Potion from a Stray Cat. It took me about 20 tries

[Anonymous No.1698815]

>>1698802
>>1698807
That's most likely because you are stealing from a monster that only has a rare steal. For the Stray Cat:

NAME: Stray Cat
CODE: 00 03 BESTIARY: #007
LEVEL: 2 EXP: 15
HP: 20 GIL: 20
MP: 0 SPEED: 10
ATTACK: 5 MAGIC POWER: 0
ATT MULT: 2 MAGIC MULT: 4
EVADE%: 0 MAGIC EVADE%: 0
DEFENSE: 0 MAGIC DEFENSE: 5
DROP(ALWAYS): Nothing STEAL(COMMON): Nothing
DROP(RARE): Nothing STEAL(RARE): Potion
MOTION: None
CREATURE TYPE: Magic Beast
CAN'T EVADE: None
INITIAL STATUS: None
STATUS IMMUNITY: Mini
ELEMENTAL WEAKNESS: None
ELEMENTAL IMMUNITY: None
ELEMENTAL ABSORB: None
IMMUNITY: None
CONTROL: Attack, Specialty, Flee
RELEASE: (Strong)Attack
SPECIALTY: Tail
SPECIALTY EFFECT: 1.5*Damage
AI SCRIPT:
{Attack,Attack,Tail}

As you see it has no common steal, so when you steal from it you are looking at the 6% chance for the rare steal.

[Anonymous No.1698824]

>>1698815
Oh that figures. I've been trying to steal potions from generic overworld enemies and losing count at 40. Serves me right for assuming potions would be common.

[Anonymous No.1699070]

Awesome, got Galura on my first try. Playing Natural and having three Freelancers at the beginning is really usef-

>@juon2nd can now use the Water Job 'Berserker'. Haha.

God damn. I hope you guys are right and Berserkers aren't utterly horrible.

[Anonymous No.1699136]

>>1699070
They are pretty terrible, but if you're playing the SFC version you can abuse the Mag.Pwr underflow glitch with Thornlet (or Giant Armlet) to get respectable Quakes out of the Earth Hammer. With that, they can actually damage multi-target bosses like Neo-Exdeath. Still, since you have three characters that aren't Berserker, you should be fine even with a nearly dead-weight axe swinger around.

[Anonymous No.1699219]

>>1699070
How terrible a Berserker is really depends on the rest of your team. Having one and a competent party is not a big deal. Get a death sickle from the guys on Crescent Island and have them use that for most of the game. You would be surprised at how many things are susceptible to its instant death effect.

[Anonymous No.1699291]

>>1699070
Berserkers are not bad. They are stronk.

The only issue is that they can literally only attack in battle. Not taking orders makes some bosses more difficult. But they are good at what little they do.

Also, as previously stated, it's all about the rest of your team. If you have good support classes, it's not going to matter.

[Anonymous No.1699373]

>>1697891
enjoy your dancer being immune to everything

[Anonymous No.1699524]

>>1697891
>Thief Summoner Geomancer Dancer
I have the exact same lineup myself, in world 3 now and just got Lenna back

>Thief passive helps Summoner so they can get Golem and gets some great items through steal (Flame Ring, Mirage Vest, Wall Ring, Early HiPotions). Plus !Mug doesn't trigger Chicken Knife's Flee
>Summoner get some great summons, mostly noticeable is Golem, which help ofset the poor defenses of the group
>Geomancer is only really useful in world 1, they drop off within world 2 and is nearly useless in world 3. Use them as ElixirBot/Second Summoner
>Dancer has some great equipments (Ribbon) to help offset their terrible HP and defenses. Plus having Thief gets you an early Lamia's Tiara in the Earth Shrine, which doubles the Sword Dance chances.

[Anonymous No.1699558]

>Thief
>Red Mage

Mediocrity: the run

[Anonymous No.1699831]

Is it worth it to grind doublecast out of Red Mage? Even though its mediocre, the physical damage output isn't half bad.

[Anonymous No.1699932]

>>1699831
It's definitely worth it if you have the patience/emulator fast forward to do it, the class isn't half bad late-game with it. The Mag.Pwr isn't great, but two Cure2s makes it a decent healer even if it's no White Wind/Cure3, it can do some damage with rod-boosted dual level 2 elemental spells especially when hitting a weakness, and it can Dualcast Life to resurrect quickly in a crisis.

[Anonymous No.1699948]

>>1699831
If you have the patience it is, specially since you have to use one red mage.

[Anonymous No.1700150]

>>1699831
just grind ABP on the statues in the basement of castle bal in world 2 and just spam stona

[Anonymous No.1700152]

>>1699524
>Thief passive helps Summoner
Sorry, which passive?

[Anonymous No.1700159]

>>1700150
I think you mean spam lvl 5 doom.

[Anonymous No.1700168]

>>1700159
some people aren't as blessed by RNG to get blue mages

[Anonymous No.1700237]

>>1700159
>>1700168
Trying to farm ABP so i can swap my zerker and thief is taking so long i've already mastered zerker on bartz but god damn faris needs to stop dying so she can get ABP

[Anonymous No.1700258]

>>1700237
huehuehue

[Anonymous No.1700343]

Finally managed to pull this off. Took a shitload of grinding. Bartz is a Thief and Faris is Berserker.

[Anonymous No.1700359]

>>1700343

On an unrelated note, I just got killed by the Queen of Krarsk and my last save is right after the water crystal shatters.

[Anonymous No.1700371]

>>1700359
I mean Queen of Karnak.
What the fuck is Krarsk?

[Anonymous No.1700385]

took forever to farm these but by god i'm ready for those god damned tree crystals
>>1700371
do you mean the living flame?

[Anonymous No.1700395]

>>1700385
Yeah that one.

[Anonymous No.1700402]

>>1700395
took me a couple of times to kill it with my party too

[Anonymous No.1700414]

>>1700395
here's a hint: humanoid form gives a flamescroll upon defeat. the hand form gives a flame rod upon defeat, and the tornado form gives a flame bow

[Anonymous No.1700429]

So, I'm at the Titan fight, and I have a team of only Bard/Summoner/Dancer. And my HP isn't high enough to survive a single earth shaker.

Which he does upon death. Anything I can do besides grinding a bit?

[Anonymous No.1700440]

>>1700385
welp i cheesed the hell out of the tree crystal bosses. not really my way of doing things but after 15 tries of legitimately trying to kill them one by one
>>1700429
what's your fourth job?

[Anonymous No.1700447]

>>1700440
>what's your fourth job
White Mage, but I already have level 4 White Magic on my Dancer.

[Anonymous No.1700448]

>>1700414
I've already done it and now my next job is Ninja.

[Anonymous No.1700451]

>>1700447
>>1700429


Oh, just beat it via use of Hide. Remember, anons, sometimes the best way to solve your problems it to hide from them.

[Anonymous No.1700454]

>>1700447
well it looks like you're going to grind a bit. did you atleast get the ribbon from karnak castle?

[Anonymous No.1700462]

>>1700454
Ribbon got. All three world 1 songs also got.

Pretty sure all world 1 summons got as well.

[Anonymous No.1700501]

>>1700462
did you get the chocobo summon? that one is often missed

[Anonymous No.1700516]

>>1700168
>tfw blue mage, time mage, beastmaster, dragoon.
>able to get the earliest blue magic thanks to !Control.

1000 Needles is wrecking everything. Obtaining Lv 2. Old and Lv. 3 Flare is going to be tricky to get in Barrier Tower.

[Anonymous No.1700525]

>>1700516
>blue mage
>beast master
lucky bastard

[Anonymous No.1700532]

It'd be cool if there was a FF3 Fiesta. And instead of Beserker risk, it'd be Scholar for the NES version.

[Anonymous No.1700540]

>>1700532
Bravely Default Fiesta

[Anonymous No.1700565]

>>1700532
>>1700540

FF3 seems way too imbalanced to do that. Sometimes boss battles and dungeons are built entirely around certain classes.

Also, Bravely Default doles out the classes in such a weird way that it might not work, especially due to some of the final classes being damn near the end game. I suppose you might be able to work it with NG+, though.

[Anonymous No.1700581]

>>1700565
>FF3 seems way too imbalanced to do that. Sometimes boss battles and dungeons are built entirely around certain classes.
The only class i can think of is sch for heigen. I've done weird class combos in 3, very rarely do i even use a whm. The third crystal i think? been a while I've gone all the way to the next crystal with only a bard healer. Including garuda etc.

[Anonymous No.1700610]

>>1700581
Garuda would cause anyone without dragoons to quit the game, as well with Hein.

[Anonymous No.1700616]

>>1700610
I've done multiple playthroughs without drg last time i played i did garuda with monk/dark/geo/brd

[Anonymous No.1700621]

Also is anyone really going to want to do those split enemy dungeons without a Dark Knight (or whatever the hell that thing was called in FF3)?

[Anonymous No.1700649]

I just finished the Library of the Ancients and I'm only lvl13, isn't it kinda low? I remember when I played them back then I was in the middle twenties.

[Anonymous No.1700650]

>>1700649
keep going and see if you get rekt
that's the only way to know you're too low

[Anonymous No.1701036]

>>1700152
Agility Up/Artful Dodger which is the Level 7 ability of the Thief. It gives the thief's Agility to anyone who equips it. It's good for the Summoner so they can get Golem up or begin spamming Slydra/Odin/Bahamut

Another good thing on having a Thief is that it also prevent any back attack, which help offset the poor defenses of the group.

[Anonymous No.1701180]

>>1700621
I did the shadow temple without a dark knight. Although it was a pain in the ass to do so.

>>1700616
I don't think I've upped the courage to grind to kill Garuda without dragoons. I remember him using his thunderbolt attack and doing 3/4 of my damage, or even wiping out my team.

[Anonymous No.1701218]

>>1699070
and now I've got Beastmaster for Faris.
What is some awesome stuff I can do with her? The only thing I know about Beastmaster is that he can help you acquire Blue Magic, which I don't have

[Anonymous No.1701298]

>>1701218
>What is some awesome stuff I can do with her?
Become the pokemon master

[Anonymous No.1701307]

>>1700649

Thanks to the job system, the only way to know if you're too low is if you absolutely can't progress.

>>1701218

Anyone who has some questions about a class should consult this

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MrmmtZPyCJnRL8ecIp5LOwhDnb_9FLeFQNjOzyVI-R8/edit?pli=1

It is your bible. Love it and read it every day.

Also, Beastmaster is a fun class. You can control shield dragons in Kuzar castle and have them kill themselves. You can also do this during other encounters and breathe easier during randoms.

You can also catch Pokemon and release them to make boss battles easier. Get on that shit, bruh. Become the pokemon master like he said.

[Anonymous No.1701403]

>>1701218
Capture Goblins for Flare, Zu for Breath Wing to bring down bosses to low health, and eventually capture Sand Bears or Ironbacks in World 2 for 5000+ damage - which is amazing around that period.

Beastmasters are incredible.

[Anonymous No.1701404]

>>1700649
I'm level 23 in Barrier Tower, and i'm wrecking everything that comes in my way. Once you reach Ronka Ruins, you might want to grind, depending on your classes. Sol Cannon and Archaeoavis are hard as fuck.

[Anonymous No.1701440]

>>1701307
>Go cry since you got the worst earth job (patently false, dancer exists (Dancer is legit amazing, fuck you -- becomes even better if you got Ninja on Fire crystal too) (oh wow dancer gets good if you got a good class earlier, color me amazed) (“even better” and “just scraping good” are very different things) (Equip Ribbon is one of the best passives) (let’s agree to disagree, neither class is particularly great) (neither class is chemist)(truth)(to be fair, no other class is Chemist)(Hell, Chemist arguably isn’t Chemist until you learn !Mix.)(Let’s face it, you get anything other than chemist from the earth crystal you should just cry bitter tears or use the Job Fair to just buy it for $5. It’s worth it; Chemist is just that good)(Jesus Christ just fuck already)

[Anonymous No.1701461]

>>1701440
What the hell are you on about?

AP grinding at the stone statues is a blessing with Lv. 5 Death. Low exp, great gil and amazing AP distribution. Blue Mage literally makes the game too easy. Hopefully I get shit classes for my next play through.

[Anonymous No.1701462]

>>1701461
What the hell are you on about?

[Anonymous No.1701463]

>>1701461
I have absolutely no idea what the hell are you talking about.
I just quoted the dragoon description from the guide in that post.

[Anonymous No.1701472]

>>1701403
>>1701307
>>1701298
thanks for the advice.

My Page 256 Release of Comet did a whooping 210 damage to this cunt... followed by 4 casts Drain in a row.

Somehow, I still got him. The whip paralysis is pretty good

[Anonymous No.1701476]

>>1701462
>>1701463
No idea, I just ramble and don't think things through.

[Anonymous No.1701559]

So what are your favourite tracks from this game? FFV has such an underrated OST.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrtbAQ1ANYs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZNeE1f2gPg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdZKC7vz1xU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewCfUn6ljww

[Anonymous No.1701576]

Fourteen. Just saying.

[Anonymous No.1701587]

>>1701576
You should make a "why can't I talk about PS2" thread to counter all the retro threads.

[Anonymous No.1701589]

>>1701559
>underrated
It's just not that great overall, especially compared to the other SNES FFs.
Don't get me wrong; it's certainly not bad, and there's some stand-out tracks, but overall it falls a bit flat.

[Anonymous No.1701593]

>>1701576
i only see 3 FFV threads there i fail to see a problem.

[Anonymous No.1701603]

>>1701559
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CSexDiQ-NQ

Lik if u cri evritiem.

Also I absolutely love the boss theme. Not the popular Battle on the Big Bridge or the Exdeath one, but the standard Fierce Battle that plays countless times during every basic/filler boss battle. It's the real shit. It's also not popular at all, but I personally think it's one of the best boss themes out there. Really creates a feeling of urgency.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icEttAoWZm0

[Anonymous No.1701612]

>>1701593
There aren't dedicated Doom 2, Doom 64, TNT, Plutionia, Heretic, Hacx, Master Levels, and Strife threads. I didn't even pull up the other JRPG threads.

All I'm saying is that thirteen FF threads pushed out other discussions while a FF thread was active. We do have a catalog.

[Anonymous No.1701615]

>>1701559
it is kind of overshadowed by 4 and 6. Still very enjoyable overall.
I like the Opening, Main theme, Second World theme and Exdeath's themes a lot. Oh, and Gilgamesh's theme is a gigantic earworm.

[Anonymous No.1701618]

>>1701612
Since you are so good at looking at the catalog, did you notice the lack of "Final Fantasy General" or "RPG general"?

[Anonymous No.1701624]

>>1701612
btw when I first came to /vr/, I didn't know about the catalog and started a SECOND Doom thread without knowledge of the first, and every reply was full of bile. I thought I made my current point rather civilly.

[Anonymous No.1701627]

>>1701618
Since you are so good at logic and communication, had it occurred to you that discussion of a Final Fantasy game might possibly be relevant to a discussion of a Final Fantasy game?

[Anonymous No.1701635]

>>1701615
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8QJpNJT9qM

Exdeath's theme is amazing. An underrated and really great villain theme. I far prefer it to Kefka's Theme or Those Chosen By The Planet or what-have-you. When you hear that Psycho violin screech you just know shit's gonna go down and continents are going to burn.

[Anonymous No.1701636]

>>1701627
Do try to merge any two threads of the 14 you named.
Go ahead and read them all and see how it makes sense to have them all separated.
And, what's your problem with people talking about retro games in a retro board? It's not like it's 14 threads of shitposting that pushed aside the 14 most popular threads of /vr/.

[Anonymous No.1701638]

>>1701559
uematsu did state in an interview that the music from FF5 was his favourite

[Anonymous No.1701643]

I just realised I've been accidently doing a natural run this year and last year.
I'm gonna keep with it though. Fucking how do you break rods? I'm stuck on liquid flame and the motherfucker just refuses to die

[Anonymous No.1701648]

>>1701643
use them as an item.

[Anonymous No.1701650]

>>1701643
Equip the rod, then use it as an item.

[Anonymous No.1701651]

>>1701648
It doesn't work. Like it looks like the spells being cast but it does no damage

[Anonymous No.1701652]

>>1701643
You go into items hit up at double select the rod

[Anonymous No.1701656]

>>1701650
Tried this too. Does it just not work on the GBA version?

[Anonymous No.1701657]

>>1701651
The hand is immune to frost.

[Anonymous No.1701663]

>>1701657
I could have sworn I used it on the twister but ill try it again incase that is the case.

[Anonymous No.1701685]

>>1701618
Presumably you will find them on /vg/?

[Anonymous No.1701726]

>>1701656
It works on GBA. You put the rod in your hand during the battle (scroll all the way to the top of the menu and press up until you see your equipped items) then "double click" it to use it like any other item.

[Anonymous No.1701863]

So I started a Natural run, and so far I've got White Mage, Mystic Knight, and Geomancer. I don't think I've ever used a Geomancer. Are they good for anything?

[Anonymous No.1701873]

>>1701863
!Gaia is a decent skill. Ctrl + F "bible" in this thread and look at the guide it links to from there. The guide at gamefaqs has one that goes into detail about just how it works.

[Anonymous No.1701921]

So what are the rules for a normal run during that short period in which Galuf leaves the party, and you have to go around to all the meteors? Can you use any of the three classes? Do you have to use an earth crystal class?

[Anonymous No.1701929]

>>1701921
Use any class that you've unlocked. It doesn't matter what Galuf has because he's not with you for a bit.

Same thing when he breaks into the castle. You use whatever you've unlocked.

[Anonymous No.1701934]

>>1701929
Thank you

[Anonymous No.1701942]

>>1701934

Although I just realized if you're doing a natural run, you'd be stuck with the jobs.

If you're doing a normal run, ignore this post.

[Anonymous No.1701964]

>>1701559
>implying I don't listen to podcasts while playing games

[Anonymous No.1702024]

What's the best Earth crystal job?

[Anonymous No.1702059]

>>1701404
>Sol Cannon and Archaeoavis
6 broken Thunder rods later... this thing is obscene.

Funnily enough, Archaeoavis went down super easily.

[Anonymous No.1702071]

>>1701440
now I know what this wall of text is about. I'll be right back, I need to cry.

[Anonymous No.1702112]

lol Butz

[Anonymous No.1702116]

>>1702059
The turrets on the floating island were the first thing that made me have to switch jobs in FFV in my first playthrough. I was trying to tank them with a knight/mystic knight/monk/thief team and got creamed.

Then I switched the two knights to a summoner and a red mage and completely obliterated the cannons.

[Anonymous No.1702120]

>>1702071
Dragoon is a shit. At least with Thief, you can make him a dedicated healer, or an all out attacker. Beserk + Chicken Knife or Twin Lance. Beserkers are able to obtain a strong axe in Barrier Tower as well. Atmos is a road block boss, but can be hit hard with a Yellow Dragon capture, for up to 6k damage.

Other than that, grind and good luck.

[Anonymous No.1702141]

>>1702112
That's why I always rename him Bartz

[Anonymous No.1702172]

>>1702141
>21 years of age
>been playing game a good 10 years now
>still hillarious

[Anonymous No.1702205]

>>1702172
You too, eh? Cheers, mate!

[Anonymous No.1702410]

>>1701559
Final Fantasy has 2 key series themes. The crystal theme (the one you hear on the NES games at the beginning with the white text on blue screen), and the bridge theme (FF1 bridge scene). These recur in almost every game.

FF5 straight up combines these two and calls the track Final Fantasy. You can't beat that.

[Anonymous No.1702415]

>>1702410
>Forgetting the victory fanfare

Good God, mate. I can't be seen with you in public anymore. It's over between us.

[Anonymous No.1702572]

It'd be great if there was a prequel to FFV that takes place 1000 years prior of Exdeath, and with the Void being unsealed, Enuo, the Ancients, more airships, and the merged world as the setting.

[Anonymous No.1702650]

>>1702572
What if it's Bravely Default?

[Anonymous No.1702657]

>>1702415
That's a theme played at a specific portions of the game though, rather than a dramatic theme. Same reason we don't think aboyt the Chocobo track

[Anonymous No.1702968]

Exdeath gets so overlooked in the series but holy shit he is one of the best villains of it.

[Anonymous No.1702972]

>>1702968
Exdeath is a pretty lame villain, he gets overlooked for a reason

[Anonymous No.1702978]

>>1702972
>nonsensical time traveller
>David Bowie
>tits out of fucking nowhere
>big moonman out of fucking nowhere
>A humanoid vessel for the souls of thousands of the most evil beasts that have ever existed sealed inside one being. Also commands an army
>psycho clown
>Mommy issues
>dont even get me started
>Some death looking shit out of fucking nowhere
>Dad
>cant remember tbh
>Fabio
>A wheel with a sword inside it
>haven't played 14

[Anonymous No.1702983]

>>1702972
He really is the only entertaining villain in the whole goddamn series. Among central ones, that is.

[Anonymous No.1702984]

>>1702978
>David Bowie

[Anonymous No.1702993]

>>1702978
>spooky tree

[Anonymous No.1702995]

>>1702993
>implying thats now even more awesome than what I said

[Anonymous No.1703000]

>>1702978

[Anonymous No.1703003]

>>1702995
villain of the year all years right here

[Anonymous No.1703004]

>>1703000
>>1703003
Are we mind-linked, anon?

[Anonymous No.1703005]

>>1703003
Still a better design than half of them
>>1703000
Still a better desin than half of them

[Anonymous No.1703007]

>>1703005
I agree with you, but the idea of an evil tree is really funny.

[Anonymous No.1703009]

>>1703005
>thinking "design" is all that matters in a villain
Guess it's not a surprise that you like the least interesting, least emotionally engaging villain in any FF past the NES.

[Anonymous No.1703013]

>>1703007
Agreed
>>1703009
Do you think that's what I was saying? Are you seriously strawmanning in a discussion about Final Fantasy Villains?

[Anonymous No.1703019]

>>1703013
That's rich coming from the guy who posted a whole list of ridiculous oversimplifications

[Anonymous No.1703021]

>shitter

no thanks

[Anonymous No.1703028]

>>1703019
Holy shit man. If I really believed any of that why would I be posting in a Final Fantasy thread?
In case
>David Bowie
>Mommy issues
>Dad
and
>Fabio
Didn't tip you off I was joking.
Jesus fuck dude.

[Anonymous No.1703031]

>>1703028
So then why are you whining about strawmen in >>1703013
You post shit, you get shit

[Anonymous No.1703036]

>>1703031
You're actually a fucking moron aren't you?
I bet you fucking creamed yourself when you thought you found someone more stupid than you and now you're just really disappointed to find out I was joking.

[Anonymous No.1703037]

>>1703036
>I was just pretending to be retarded!
your jokes are almost as shitty as Exdeath

[Anonymous No.1703038]

>>1703037
I wasn't even pretending to be retarded. I was an extremely obvious joke. You're ability to detect sarcasm is shittier than Every other villain in the series bar Exdeath

[Anonymous No.1703040]

>>1703038
>I wasn't even pretending to be retarded.
Well that explains it!

[Anonymous No.1703042]

>>1703040
You're really trying to salvage any kind of mental compotence from this aren't you? You're not doing yourself any favours. Hear, I'll help you because I feel bad for you. My keyboard didn't register the "T" in "it" so it looks like I said I'm a joke. Just quote that and say "You got that right"
Simple
effective
works.
You're welcome

[Anonymous No.1703045]

>>1703037
>jokes are literally shitposting

/vr/

[Anonymous No.1703046]

>>1703042
okay
>I'm a joke
You got that right

[Anonymous No.1703048]

>>1703046
Damn, you got me!

[Anonymous No.1703052]

>>1703048
Glad that's settled, then.

[Anonymous No.1705997]

This was posted last year I believe, it's some guy's site where he chronicles single-character runs in FFV. Can be useful for figuring out boss strategies for specific jobs, as well as just an interesting read.

http://www.garath.net/Sullla/FF/finalfantasy.html

[Anonymous No.1706868]

>Finally killed Garula with 4 thiefs
I'm glad I bought about 50 potions, because I fucking needed them.
>can now use the Water Job 'Red Mage'.
Fan-fucking-tastic. Don't bother giving me a new job, just give me the same shitty one you gave me last year. Fucking Gilgabot.

[Anonymous No.1707372]

>>1702978
>>big moonman out of fucking nowhere

heh

[Anonymous No.1707404]

>>1706868
>fighting Garula with 4 thieves
>burn through all my potions
>go balls to the wall attacking every turn
>last guy standing kills it with <40 HP left

Is this what FJF is all about?

[Anonymous No.1707409]

>>1705997
This guy also did some.

http://www.dos486.com/ff/

[Anonymous No.1707852]

>>1706868
4 white mages is worse.

[Anonymous No.1707865]

I'm about done with World 1 with a party of

Blue Mage / Berserker / Bard / Dancer

I don't think I need Flame/Ice/Angel Rings, right? I have every Blue spell I could get my hands on including White Wind. Charm Song was a big help!

I could buy a couple extra elemental rods, as I remember World 2 Exdeath to be a bit of a pain.

Other than that, I don't think I missed anything. Played all the pianos. No stealing, no regular spells & no summons for my party.

[Anonymous No.1710246]

>>1707865
Got the Elf Cape in the basement of Walse Castle?

Got a Death Scythe for the Berserker?

And Flame Rings are really mostly used for the Crystal boss in the forest. Having a constant free healing from Firaga helps a lot.

Also for World 2 ExDeath, farming for Wall Rings inside the Barrier Tower can be very helpful. But Blue Mage does well against him. Level 3 Flare hits him, so does Level 2 Old, and, if you want to be very cheap, it's possible to Level 5 Death him with just the Blue Mage.

[Anonymous No.1710270]

Zeninage makes the game so trivial.
The crystals boss went down in 2 attacks and world 2 ExDeath went down in 4.

[Anonymous No.1710481]

I'm doing a No 750 run, and I've got Monk, Berserker, Ranger and Dragoon. How fucked am I?

[Anonymous No.1710482]

>>1710481
You shouldn't be playing the SNES version, other then that just stick Rapidfire on everything and go to town.

Hope you got lots of potions.

[Anonymous No.1711426]

>>1705997
>solo thief

That Atmos grind. holy hell.