/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1650002]

What's more retro-accurate: Princess Toadstool or Peach?

[Anonymous No.1650010]

Technically, she was always Peach. It depends on what part of the world you live in.

I don't know anybody to this day who prefers the name Toadstool over Peach.

[Anonymous No.1650016]

As I remember of the date when SMB was launched, books/figure albums/cartoons always referred to her as Princes Toadstool

[Anonymous No.1650021]

>princess of the mushroom kingdom
>not a mushroom
>no parents
wut

[Anonymous No.1650024]

I call her Toadstool to piss off friends.
It's good fun.

On a side note:
Why are Goombas the only things relating to mushrooms at all? Toadstools aren't mushrooms, and Toads are definitely representing of toadstools.
Could the Toadstools have conquered the Mushroom empire? Deepest lore.

[Anonymous No.1650042]

>princess frogshit
lovely

[Anonymous No.1650051]

>>1650024
1) A toadstool is a part of a mushroom. It is a gilled fruiting-body cap that sits atop a stem, such as the top part of the common mushroom.
Alternately, it can also refer to mushrooms of this type.

Other analogous parts in other sorts of mushrooms include shelves, which are the gilled fruiting-body caps of mushrooms that lack obvious stems and grow on the sides of trees (see sulphur shelf mushroom and hen of the woods mushroom) and fronds, which are the fruiting-body parts of another type of mushroom (see snow mushroom and black jelly mushroom).

2) Clearly, Goombas are not the only things related to mushrooms in le Royaume Champignon.

3) https://translate.google.com/#hu/en/gomba

[Anonymous No.1650056]

What was the first western release to call her 'Peach'?

I tend to refer to older images of her with darker not-blonde hair as 'Toadstool.'

[Anonymous No.1650059]

>>1650002
Princess Peach Toadstool.

[Anonymous No.1650060]

>>1650056
I believe it was Super Mario 64.
Even in Super Mario Bros 3 and World she was referred to as Peach.

[Anonymous No.1650062]

>>1650060
>Even in Super Mario Bros 3 and World she was referred to as Peach.
>referred to as Peach
>Peach

I meant to type "Toadstool".
Please don't arrest me.

[Anonymous No.1650064]

>>1650021
>not a mushroom

I seriously considered her a fungus being of human form as a kid. I believed this up until she was called 'Peach.'

Even prepubescently I couldn't help but imagine what sex with the Princess' was like, so...

Pic related is a mushroom's reproductive structures and what I believed the inside of Princess Toadstool's vagina to be like. feelsgoodman.jpg

[Anonymous No.1650071]

>>1650064
>this is what's under her dress

[Anonymous No.1650093]

>>1650010
>I don't know anybody to this day who prefers the name Toadstool over Peach.
Tom Preston probably, since we all know he holds those shitty DiC cartoons in a pedestal.

[Anonymous No.1650102]

>>1650056
Super Mario 64 was at least the first one I remember calling her Peach.

I remember being really confused when I saw that for the first time. I didn't understand that Peach was her actual name, since I had only known her as Princess Toadstool.

[Anonymous No.1650104]

>>1650002
toadstool. as a kid in the late 80's i always remembered her as that. it wasn't til a few years back, when i came back to games, that i saw this peach name everywhere.

[Anonymous No.1650105]

>>1650056
>>1650060
It was actually Yoshi's Safari, but very few people played that since only six people owned a Super Scope.

[Anonymous No.1650130]

Her Royal Highness Peach, Princess of the Mushroom Kingdom, of the Royal House of Toadstool

[Anonymous No.1650140]

If we're being honest it could be both depending on your region

But if we're remaining honest only fags call her princess toadstool. For one, it's not a feminine name, and two it was dropped a long time ago for a reason. The only people that still use it now are either trying to sound oldschool and retro (read: 14-18 year olds), or people who genuinely grew up with toadstool and for some reason care when they shouldnt (read: autists)

[Anonymous No.1650172]

>>1650140
you're so cool

[Anonymous No.1650196]

>>1650140
>people who genuinely grew up with toadstool and for some reason care when they shouldnt (read: autists)
Much like the people who still insists that Dr. Eggman should be called Robotnik.

[Anonymous No.1650206]

IIRC, it was Matio 64 where she was first referred to as "Peach" so she was Princess Toadstool all through games like SMB2 and Mario Kart where she was a playable character. I remember the first time I saw that Mario 64 intro being a little surprised and feeling like "Peach" was some kind of an intimate pet name she had with Mario based on the tone of the note.

[Anonymous No.1650226]

>>1650206
Wasn't it SMB3? The same one where they changed "King Koopa" to "Bowser, King of the Koopas?" I remember thinking that much like the princess from SML, Peach was a new bitch in Mario's life until SM64 when she introduced herself to the player via letter as 'Princess Toadstool Peach.'
I only know of the lore via English-language media as Nintendo was never popular in my country until the GBC's release.

[Anonymous No.1650263]

>>1650226
Nope.

[Anonymous No.1650285]

>>1650042
Thank you, now i'm probably going to remember that and crack up the next time i watch the old Mario Bros cartoon.

[Anonymous No.1650290]

>>1650263

she will always be princess toadstool.

peach is far too informal.

[Anonymous No.1650294]

>>1650196
I wanted to fork this discussion in that direction but didn't think it was the time.

[Anonymous No.1650297]

>>1650226
Technically, Koopa has always been localized as Bowser even as far back as SMB 1's manual. Only the cartoons and the movie kept the Japanese name.

[Anonymous No.1650302]

>>1650196
I honestly don't care, but..
Technically speaking Sonic Adventure 2 (even in Japan) had the words 'Robotnik Empire' scrolling around behind Eggman during his televised Eclipse Canon demonstration.
In the same vein, Japan also adopted the American name of Peach when she was finally named Peach Toadstool in Super Mario 64.
They both later just focused on the Japanese name.

Fighting over it is silly.

>>1650206
Actually, she was first referred to as Peach in Yoshi's Safari.

[Anonymous No.1650381]

I say 'Doctor Robotnik' because I think it sounds cooler and more badass than 'Eggman', and for no other reason.

[Anonymous No.1650391]

Princess Toadstool
Dr. Robotnik

Fuck you, Japan. The first time I ever heard "Peach" was in SM64

[Anonymous No.1650405]

>>1650381
Same, but that's not going to stop me from liking stuff like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvERHiTfx9w

[Anonymous No.1650409]

>>1650302
>Technically speaking Sonic Adventure 2 (even in Japan) had the words 'Robotnik Empire' scrolling around behind Eggman during his televised Eclipse Canon demonstration.
>In the same vein, Japan also adopted the American name of Peach when she was finally named Peach Toadstool in Super Mario 64.
>They both later just focused on the Japanese name.
>
>Fighting over it is silly.

Especially since Mario himself was renamed by Nintendo of America after their landlord, from the original "Jumpman", and it transferred back to Japan.

[Anonymous No.1650413]

>>1650002
She will always be Princess Toadstool to me. From 1985 to I guess Mario 64 in 1996 she had the name, and that's 1/3 of my life so it's pretty well cemented in.

Calling her Peach makes me feel like a pervert ever since I learned peach is also slang or a euphemism for pussy.

[Anonymous No.1650506]

Warning, personal autismal headcanon:

Peach: First name Peach, last name Toadstool. Pretty straightforward, really.

Eggman: His name is Ivo Robotnik. "Eggman" was just a nickname that stuck.

Koopa: "Koopa" is the name of their entire race. Any time you see the name King Koopa, it's really just shorthand for "King of the Koopas."

[Anonymous No.1650521]

>>1650506
>autismal headcanon:
Those first two are exactly the way it is, though.

[Anonymous No.1650526]

A little off topic but still about her name,

ピーチ姫 Piichi Hime
ビッチ姫 Biichi Hime

Change the first letter and suddenly we have a Slutty Princess. This joke is why Japan sees her as a bimbo and draws her as such in most hentai.

[Anonymous No.1650527]

>>1650521
Only the Robotnik thing really is. I've never seen the name "Toadstool" appear in anything Mario related since Mario 64.

[Anonymous No.1650560]

>>1650526
>slutty princess
The best kind.

[Anonymous No.1650572]

>>1650526
>>1650560
Peach is also English language slang for pussy as someone already brought up. Like I said, when I saw it in Mario 64 I was a bit surprised! Of course I was an adult in 1996.

[Anonymous No.1650917]

>>1650010
You don't know Andrew Dobson?

[Anonymous No.1650927]

>>1650917
It's probably best he doesn't

[Anonymous No.1650929]

>>1650196
It's just that Eggman is a stupid sounding name.

[Anonymous No.1650934]

>>1650206
This is how I felt, too. Then she was Peach in Mario Kart 64, and I was super confused. I thought Nintendo was trying to force something weird without any explanation.

[Anonymous No.1650935]

>>1650929
For an equally stupid looking (and acting) villain who is pretty much a canon manchild. As much as I prefer Robotnik, Eggman is just as fitting, if not moreso. It is, after all, the name he was designed with.

[Anonymous No.1650937]

>>1650102
In that intro letter she addressed herself as "Princess Toadstool, Peach", so I figured Peach was her nickname.

[Anonymous No.1650962]

>>1650506
I've always considered Peach to be a nickname, rather than her first name, it's how I heard it in Mario 64. I guess it works either way though, I prefer Peach.

As for Robotnik / Eggman. I grew up with knowing him as Robotnik then didn't play another Sonic until I was a teenager and didn't know about his name change. I disliked it then and I dislike it now, just as I didn't see a reason for the chnage and yes, it sounds stupid.
>>1650935
Robotnik to me was never a stupid villain or manchild, he was pretty evil as things go. Hell even if we're going by a 3D game in SA2 he blew up half the moon. I just don't think Eggman suits him. But hey I also don't really like the Sonic series beyond 3&K

[Anonymous No.1650974]

>>1650391
>>1650263
Odd. I know like I know like I know that I'd heard of her name being Peach in game sometime before SM64. As neither I nor anyone I've ever known has ever owned a Super Scope, I'm sure it's not from that Safari game.
Where else could I have heard it?! The reason I'm 100% sure I knew of her namechange prior to SM64 was, as I said (>>1650226), I was pleased to learn that her name was Peach Toadstool because it cleared up my prior confusion that Peach was an entirely separate entity.
You know how you might not remember details very well, but you remember feelings quite vividly? I very clearly remember being confused by 'Peach' and thinking 'Okay, so this Mario dude's got the mushroom bitch, then he's got that Daisy bitch from Sarasaland and now some fruity Peach bitch?' then playing SM64 and feel relief that mushroom bitch and fruit bitch are the same bitch.
Where could I have seen that Peach and Toadstool are one and the same prior to SM64?

[Anonymous No.1650975]

>>1650105
>since only six people owned a Super Scope.

I guess they chose a name reflective of how many future owners it would have. Great marketing department.

[Anonymous No.1650986]

>>1650975
I will always remember my friend in primary school saying he had a real life size version of the Super Scope from Smash Bros. I completely refused to believe him as I thought he was making it up, didn't think such a thing existed. Thought it must have been huge and I'd have heard of it for sure.

I never did end up seeing his one, but I no doubt believe he definitely laid hands on one at some point. And how excited he would have been to say and then thought to be lying.

[Anonymous No.1651064]

>>1650975
Battle Clash/Metal Combat were pretty cool the music is fantastic for both
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI2h1wsVZAM

Yoshis Safari is epilepsy inducing nightmare fuel

Got ^ and the compilation game that comes with the gun in a bundle when it was still in shops

[Anonymous No.1651078]

>>1650974
>>1650263
>>1650391

If any of you had a Super Scope, she was called Peach in Yoshi's Safari back in 1993.

[Anonymous No.1651080]

>>1651078

Ignore this post. I responded to you guys without reading the rest of the thread.

[Anonymous No.1651089]

>>1651078
>>1651080
Why not just delete the post/s, then?

[Anonymous No.1651091]

>>1651078
Fuck no and as an aside why the hell did Sega and Nintendo decide to make their light guns battery powered in Gen 4? I get that since you need to aim at the screen anyway, you don't have to worry about people breaking their IR link but damn SIX batteries? I wasn't even a little kid anymore and holding that menacer up was too much of a bitch to be fun for real long term gaming. I guess that's why Nintendo opted to stick some of the weight on your shoulder but it made yo look like a tool especially since my arms were man length by then.

I had a Justifier for Genesis I dunno why I never got one for SNES. I guess because the Super Scope seemed so dumb to me.

[Anonymous No.1651096]

>>1650290

But it's her pet name. It's what she lets Mario call her. More "comfortable" than "informal."

[Anonymous No.1651101]

>>1651096
It's still sick.

[Anonymous No.1651114]

>>1651089
Because it takes less time to make a second post than it does to wait for 4chan's arbitrary "you can delete this post now" timer to tick down.

[Anonymous No.1651854]

>>1650010
Wait so, in glorious Nippon, she was known as Peach?

[Anonymous No.1651925]

>>1651854
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAvrPZRuKrU

In this, Bowser calls her Pichi-chan and this is pretty damn old. Up to you if you want to consider some old anime canon, but the name was definitely contrived and in use in Japan in the 90's. Also

> Embarrassing yourself to get a girl to laugh
> Thinking it will make her like you
> Calling her stupid and locking her up

Bowser is a fast learner

[Anonymous No.1651938]

>>1650572

I have also heard "peach" used to refer to a dick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aYrDx-QKmg

Do not try this joke ever

[Anonymous No.1652059]

>>1651925
Wow yeah I forgot about this. Super Mario Bros.: Peach-Hime Kyushutsu Dai Sakusen! (1986)

[Anonymous No.1652076]

>>1650302
>In the same vein, Japan also adopted the American name of Peach when she was finally named Peach Toadstool in Super Mario 64.

Actually, in Japan her letter only ever addresses her as Peach. As well, Peach in Mario 64 in the Japanese version has no voice acting: her signing the letter "Princess Toadstool -Peach" and the voice acting was a clever and smart bit of localization.

[Anonymous No.1652097]

Peach is the name I instinctively cry out when I fap to her so there you go.

[Anonymous No.1654590]

Peach since day 1 in Japan, Toadstool was America's choice because why would the Mushroom Kingdom Princess have a name that ISN'T mushrooms.

This is also why Mario RPG is one of the rare pre-N64 spots that unitentionally references it. When Belome eats her to make a clone, he remarks she tastes "Peachy!".

[Anonymous No.1655302]

>>1650975
The 6 actually referred to the number of games in the pack-in cartridge. The gun itself was just the Super Scope in the U.S.

[Anonymous No.1655313]

Peach a cute

A CUTE

[Anonymous No.1656723]

BEEP BEEP BEEP

[Anonymous No.1656757]

Princess Toadstool is the brunette version.

>>1652059
Holy shit, she's cute in this. Is it worth watching?

[Anonymous No.1656761]

>>1652076
Yeah, it was nice how they eased us into the glorious Nihongo name. They did the same thing in Sonic Adventure.

[Anonymous No.1656773]

>>1656761
Not as successfully though, I'd say. It helps that "Peach" sounds like a first name a whole lot more than "Toadstool", so it was really easy to accept as her "actual" name.

Meanwhile, Sonic had the unenviable task of turning Robotnik into "Eggman", playing it off as an insulting nickname Sonic made up... which he then chooses to call himself anyway?

Still, I'm glad that things happened the way, and that east and west canon merged so smoothly. Dobson nostalgia aside, I don't think I could stand to see DiC's concepts for Mario or Zelda pushed in the series. Well, "again", after the CDi games.

[Anonymous No.1656780]

>>1656773
>I don't think I could stand to see DiC's concepts for Mario or Zelda pushed in the series. Well, "again", after the CDi games.

I could be a fan of that. Ironically.

And maybe unironically if they used Sonic Archie Comics canon in the games. With the cyborg version of Robotnik that kills him and takes his place or whatever the fuck happened.

[Anonymous No.1657067]

>>1650010
I think Toadstool sounds better. It just makes more sense considering it's the Mushroom Kingdom. I don't insist on calling her that though because I'm not a faggot.

Not that it matters much anyway since her full name is Princess Peach Toadstool, so calling her either is fine.

[Anonymous No.1657080]

>>1656773
>DiC's concepts for Mario or Zelda pushed in the series.


Eh, I kinda liked DiC Mario,although the brothers' voices were grating and really out of place after a while.

DiC Zelda? Nope. It looked cool when I was a kid but I just can't imagine it as even a most alternate Zelda canon by now.


But at least both weren't the mass-rape of character and story that Captain N was. That shit made me rage so much even as an early elementary-schooler. Way to suck all the cool out of my favorite videogame characters and force that cool on some generic Poochy-type faggot.

Yeah I still mad

[Anonymous No.1657090]

Toadstool sounds weird, like she's in S&M relationship with Toad.

[Anonymous No.1657092]

>>1656773
>Meanwhile, Sonic had the unenviable task of turning Robotnik into "Eggman", playing it off as an insulting nickname Sonic made up... which he then chooses to call himself anyway?
Kinda like how American blacks got called 'nigger' disparagingly for the longest while then attached that appellation to themselves of their own accord.
Or gays with 'faggot' and feminine pronouns.

>gay1: Ew, look at /her/? Doesn't that faggot know that Diesel is last season?!
>gay2: Fuck you, bitch! I rock these jeans any season. ::sassy head motion::

[Anonymous No.1657108]

>>1657090
>fifty shades of "in another castle"

[Anonymous No.1657593]

>>1650002

Yay. Another pointless semantics war over arbitrary translation differences. No way this is trolling.

[Anonymous No.1657630]

>>1657593
>No way this is trolling.
It's not.
It's just a good discussion topic that most people have opinions on.