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Which is your favorite of the retro Pokemon games?

Playing Yellow right now for the first time since I was a kid.
Love it!

How about you?

>> No.1645627

Silver all the way nigga

>dat lugia

>> No.1645637
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>Every time.

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<--- Japanese flyer for Pocket Monsters Pikachu edition.

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>>1645663
And here's the back of the flyer.

>> No.1645672

Cool thread timing OP, this came in the mail yesterday. None of it's in very good condition but that's okay because the batteries were replaced recently.

Gen 1 is my favorite, although admittedly I haven't played Gen 2 before. Of the versions, I prefer red/blue to yellow because it gives you a choice of starter, and r/b are only missing pokemon from one other version of the game instead of two.

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>>1645672
forgot image

>> No.1645683

Favorite is Red, though I do wish there was a patch to give either Red/Blue the encounters of Japanese Blue.

I think it'd be fun to play through it that way at least once, after I've beaten Red/Blue twenty times before already.

>> No.1645705 [DELETED] 

A wild Yuffie appears!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0m9Dmrh91g

>> No.1645707

>>1645672
>>1645674
Very nice.

Ebay?

>> No.1645709
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>Pikachu
No thanks

>> No.1645723

>>1645683
I think there is one, look here:
http://hax.iimarck.us/topic/729/
I haven't played it yet myself but I checked the trades and they belong to Japanese Blue, according to the OP. Basically the only small differences are in the title screen, the rest should be 100% identical to JBlue.

>> No.1645742

I always hated how on the show the Pokemon would say their name.
Like, you would expect them to make animal sounds, like grows/grunts/whimpers/etc. -- which I guess they still do -- but the fact that they would basically talk by just saying whatever their name was always pissed me off.

I thought it was seriously retarded -- it really put me off the show as a kid.

But then when I played the games (RBY), I loved it, because they didn't do that stupid shit.
Likely due to the limitations of the GB/GBC's sound chip, but I didn't care.

The first one I played was Red.
But I liked Yellow better as a kid because I got to be "just like Ash! :D"

Christ -- one fad I'm glad to have grown out of lol
Still like the games though

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>>1645709
>Dat Raichu love

>> No.1645838

>>1645742
>Like, you would expect them to make animal sounds, like grows/grunts/whimpers/etc. -- which I guess they still do -- but the fact that they would basically talk by just saying whatever their name was always pissed me off.
They did that so that way it'd be easier to translate into other languages. Which is retarded.

>> No.1645851

>>1645814
Raichu is best chu.

It's a shame even Pichu gets more recognition.

>> No.1645857

Yellow was great because of the show tie-in and getting all three starters... Pikachu following you around was also pretty awesome. Damn shame that it's got Gen 1 mechanics.

Overall, I'd have to go with Crystal. I still think that the division of SP. into Special Attack and Special Defense was one of the most important mechanics changes in the game. The introduction of dark, and to a steel (to a lesser extent), went a long way to balancing the game. Gen 2 also included a shit-ton of other major changes that really opened up the game.

>> No.1645861

>>1645851
Yeah, I'd rather play as Raichu in smash than Pikachu.

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Posting some retro Pokemon ads and stuff.

Feel free to join in the fun. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbYOq-i82Ik

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>> No.1645879
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Blue.

I originally had Red, I also got Yellow, but I sold them, and got Blue in the end, which is still my favorite due to Meowth being my favorite, and he is only on Blue.

2nd gen I had Gold because most of my friends back then had Silver, but to be honest I barely remember much about G/S or the pokemon in it, and I never replayed it because the battery on the cart died.

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>> No.1645885

>>1645882
You don't have to bump the thread every three minutes.

/vr/ is a lot slower than other boards.

>> No.1645887

Silver was the one that I 'caught em all' in before my friends, so I remember that being my favourite. Lugia was cool as fuck as well.
I'm also replaying Yellow as I have some long coach journeys this summer so I'm going to catch them all and get a gb printer to make the little certificate

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And that's all I have for now.

May come back later with some.

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>in Viridian Forest
>trying to level up my Pokemans on some chumps
>Metapod, Metapod everywhere
>Harden
>Harden
>Harden
>Harden
>...String Shot
>Harden
>mfw

Christ this is tedious.

>> No.1646292

I got a pokemon gold along with my gameboy color. I still remember the day I fought against red for the first time shit was so cash.

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>>1646272
>Grinding in Viridian Forest
why

>> No.1646375

>>1646295
Because I need Mankey to beat Brock (Pikachu can't do shit against Rock Type)
and he doesn't learn Low Kick until LvL 9.

He's LvL 3 now. :(

>> No.1646392

I like the remakes of RBY the most, partially because of how easy they are to manipulate.

>Tinkering around in FireRed
>Put in fancy completely redone sprites from later games that aren't squished.
>Enabled running indoors.
>Made Mew obey, added in a capture event
>Combined the encounters of both versions and added in the rest of the GSC mons in the islands.
>Added shops for all berries and all TMs in the islands.
>Didn't alter anything else on purpose.

Only took me an hour at the very least. Fuck yeah ultimate version.

>> No.1646398

>>1646392
*very most
I can't type at all today.

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>>1646272
Metapod (and Kakuna) don't know any other moves besides 'harden' when encountered in the wild. They should know tackle, stringshot, and harden when they evolve.

>> No.1646413

>>1646375
I just went through this earlier this morning

Pikachu single-handidly reks Misty though which is a good feeling

>> No.1646432

>>1646413
I use the Bulbasaur you get on Misty to help level him up.

I'm real neurotic about my Pokemon leveling up "correctly."
i.e. at the same rate and proportionally to where I am in the game.
I like building a "Dream Team."

>>1646408
I thought that, too, but had some random faggot Bug Catcher's Metapod use String Shot and tackle on my poor lil' Mankey.
I thought maybe they knew these moves in Yellow but not in the others (R/B), but that's not the case.
I looked it up, and I guess what happened is that he must have had a Caterpie that knew those moves, who then evolved into Metapod.

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>>1645626
>Yellow
Good luck beating Brock

>> No.1646524

>>1646518
Nidoran, Mankey, or Butterfree can whop Brock's ass. Double kick, low kick, and confusion.

>> No.1646529

>>1646518
You realize that there are other pokemans around right?

>> No.1646623

>>1646392
I dunno, I've never liked the remakes because the charming atmosphere and tunes of RBY are kinda ruined by the GBA graphics, colors and shitty new renditions of the tunes, also the sprites looked so "flat" and they looked like a drawback from the animated sprites of GSC. I have the same problem with other GBA games and Ruby/Sapphire too. Different story for the DS though, I loved the GSC remakes and I hope they'll do a re-remake of RBY someday now that Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire have been announced, I'm sure I'd love them.

>> No.1646647

>>1646518
Mankey's Low Kick whooped Barak's ass.

And I made sure that Gary Dicks's Eevee will evolve into Vaporeon.

What now? :P

>> No.1646661

>>1645885
Still faster than /toy/.

>> No.1646798

>>1646413
>Pikachu single-handidly reks Misty though which is a good feeling
I have never managed to grind Pikachu up enough that he reks Misty.

He always gets murdered due to lack of resistance to bubblebeam and low as shit special.

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>>1646408
Even trainers have Metapod and Kakuna with only Harden though. Because the game generates wild Pokemon for all but the highest leveled Pokemon in the party (and usually only gets a custom moveset if it's a boss) due to lazy programming.

Reposting from an older thread about Stadium.

>> No.1646820 [DELETED] 

>>>/vp/

Theres a reason 4chan has a dedicated pokemon board

>> No.1646830
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...And then there's THESE faggots!

>> No.1646831

This thread makes me feel really old

>> No.1646841

>>1646820
Because /v/ can't handle people having fun.

Pokemon is not banned from any board.

>> No.1646857

>>1646831
I was 16 when the games were release outside of grolious Nippon and felt too old for them and never got into'em at all. Yet... a friend of mine who was 19-soon-to-be-20 at the time kept going on and on about how much of a tool/asshole Gary is in the game.
He's coming up to 36 this December, that friend. And he still plays Pokiemanz. I fear there is something dreadfully, dreadfully wrong with him. He also likes DBZ (though not DB at all nor DBGT very much) and Naruto.
I almost feel dirty associating with him, but I love the guy. ;_; He's a great friend, but his interests have started making it difficult to keep conversation.
And no: he's not autistic, aspie or anything like that.

>> No.1646859

>>1646820
>>1646841
also it seems like it's forbidden to talk about retro pokemon games on /vp/.

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>>1646831

>sitting on the couch playing Yellow on my laptop
>11 year old nephew sees me
>"What are you playing?"
>"Oh, it's one of the old Pokemon games."
>"You like Pokemon??"
>"Well, I did when I was your age."
>"Who was your favorite? Did you like [rattles off a bunch I never heard of]?"
>"Um.. I never heard of those.. When I lost interest there were only around 150 Pokemon."
>"LOL That's it?? There are like 650 now."
>"Yeah.. See, this is Pokemon Yellow -- it's the 'Pikachu' Version of the game that came out back on the old Game Boy Color."
>"Oh.. Why does it look so OLD, though?"
>"Well, it IS old, really. It's older than you -- it's like fifteen years old. This game came out like in 1999. It might be old by today's standards, but it was awesome at the time. Especially Yellow, mostly because your own little Pikachu to follow you around, and basically you got to play as Ash."
>"...Play as who?"
>mfw

>> No.1646864

so uh, never played anything pokemon,
if i were interested in doing such a thing, what play?
are any of them any good? or is it all rose colored glasses?

>> No.1646867

>>1646820
/vp/ only seems to focus on the non-retro, and anything retro either devolves into wars or is ignored. /vr/ ends up the better home for this.

>> No.1646869 [DELETED] 

>>1646864
I'd start with Gen 1 (Red, Blue, Yellow).
They're straight forward and easy for someone with no Pokemon experience.
Really it's up to you which one, they're basically identical.
Except for Yellow -- but the only difference is that it allows you to collect a broader variety of Pokemon and access ones you couldn't access if you'd chosen only Red or Yellow.
Really the differences are negligible.

And yes, they ARE actually good games -- it's not just nostalgia.
Look up some reviews if you want.

>> No.1646873

>>1646869
okay, so if i had to 'pick one'?

I don't know what anything you typed means., whats the difference between the colors? Different games or a gimmick to get kids to buy more?

>> No.1646874

>>1646861
How does he not know who Ash is, he's literally in the cartoon

>> No.1646883

>>1646864
How much do you like old JRPG grindfests?

Like, can you play Dragon Quest 1? Are you okay with how that works?

The first games have some problems with competitiveness and a handful of moves don't work as intended. They're...kind of primitive. But they are still enjoyable if you allow yourself to enjoy it. Of the originals, Yellow is probably the "best" because Red/Blue have some very...strange redrawn sprites, while Yellow tends to look like the cartoon the most.

After that, Gold/Silver are pretty cool. They're an entirely new "country" or region, and it adds 100 Pokemon, and the story is a little different but in the end, it's still the same game, just a little bit better looking and sounding. Once you beat the Gold/Silver country, you actually get to go back and beat all the Red/Blue country gym leaders again and explore those cities "3 years later," and some things have changed, so it's cool to see that, although you won't really appreciate the changes if you haven't played R/B/Y.

And that's where my knowledge ends, with the exception of FireRed and LeafGreen, which are GBA remakes of Red/Blue. If you just can't get past the original GB style graphics (and if you can't, why the fuck are you on /vr/) then start there.

>> No.1646892

>>1646874
I-I don't know, Anon. I really don't.

I guess there's a different main character in the new show, maybe?
Or maybe he's never seen it?
I have no clue.

But it was depressing.
I mean, seriously -- FIFTEEN years have gone by since Yellow came out???
Where the fuck did THAT time go?

>> No.1646912

>>1646873
Pretty much. They have varying pokemon in the wild. Some are exclusive to one version, some are rare in one but common in the other. Personally I'd recommend Blue over Red, because Blue has better Pokemon overall within the context of Gen I and the pokemon that are more common in Blue are generally better.

Butterfree > Beedrill
Persian > Primeape
Victreebel > Vileplume
Ninetales > Arcanine

If you're emulating them, you can just download the roms for both and change the save file's name to switch between versions. You can do this with Red/Blue, Gold/Silver, Ruby/Sapphire, Firered/Leafgreen, Diamond/Pearl, Heartgold/Soulsilver, Black/White, Black2/White2 and probably X/Y too. You'll still have to trade to evolve some Pokemon because that's just how it works, but you won't be blocked out of getting pokemon just because they aren't native to your version of the game.

That said, don't play Gen II. If you really want to play the actual games, play the DS remakes. It fixes almost all the problems with Gold/Silver/Crystal except the terrible level scaling, though it does attempt to fix it.

>> No.1646928

In a technical sense, Gen II is leagues better. I also adore a ton of the new Pokemon designs, like Ampharos, Tyranitar, Typhlosion, etc. But man, they are tedious to finish. The grind becomes an uphill battle in Kanto; you can breeze through the gyms, but Red is at such a high level and there's very little in the way of Pokemon to grind decent XP on. Wild pokemon levels rarely exceed 50. Grinding is insane.

The variety of Pokmon available to you after the third gym is what really makes RBY fun to replay. You can have the game's pseudo-legendary, Dratini, as early as before your fourth badge if you're lucky; meaning it can be a viable part of your team early one. where as, GSC's Larvitar is only available to you at the very end of the game. That's a huge problem, too, so many new Pokemon are only on Mt. silver, making them far less endearing if it's your first play through. The RBY world just feels very open, you can start going on legendary sidequests around halfway through the main game.

And Mt. silver just doesn't compare to how excitingCerulean cave was overall. fighting Red is, bar none, the best moment in the first II generations. However, the quality of Pokemon in Mt.silver is lacking. you have a ton of new Gen II guys who really should've been in the main body of Johto, and a handful of non-exciting Pokemon you encounter in other caves. What made Gen I's Cerulean cave so cool was the variety of Pokemon to be found there, all of which made a decent addition to a team. Anyone of those made for a decent quick addition to a team.

And honestly, I'm in the extreme minority here, but I prefer the RB international/Japanese Blue sprites over the later ones.I do like how the GSC sprite emulate the watercolor look of the art, sure. But I love how wild the Blue sprites looked like.

Heart gold/Soul silver fixes a lot of these problems, though, and may be the most comfy pokemon game.

>> No.1646935

>>1646874
The cartoon isnt as popular as it used to be

>> No.1646939

>>1646912
>You'll still have to trade to evolve some Pokemon because that's just how it works
If you're emulating, you can actually get ROMhacks that will replace the trade evolution Pokemon with regular level-up-to-evolve.

What's wrong with Gen2? I just played through Gold for the first time and loved it.

>> No.1646943

>>1646928
If HG/SS fixed that problem with the level scaling, they would've been perfect.

>> No.1646952

>>1646935
Terrible level curve and many new pokemon (particularly pokemon of new types) not being found until you reach Kanto, which makes no fucking sense because they weren't there in Gen I so why are they there now?

And level curve. Also the level curve. The game just really shits itself after Sudowoodo and this can't be understated enough. You don't see a major increase in wild pokemon levels for another 6 boss battles. 4 if you're only counting Gym Leaders. And even then, it's about 20 levels behind what RBY and other games would have you at at that level.

And the lack of Evolution stones is a pain in the ass. You won't realistically get them until Kanto either, so despite the game giving you pokemon that can evolve with them early, you're pretty much forced into using them unevolved until after the Elite four, unless you get stupid lucky with Mystery Gift. And even then you have to get lucky for the specific stone you want.

Game just really feels rushed. Which is stupid considering it got delayed like four times.

>> No.1646953

>>1646952
Fuck, meant to reply to >>1646939.

>> No.1646958

>>1646939
>I just played through Gold for the first time and loved it.

Ho far did you play through it? The main issues don't become as apparent until Kanto, and especially when going against Red.

>>1646952
You can also get evolution stones from trainers who call you, but it's such a rare occurrence I almost never encounter it on playthroughs.

>> No.1646964

>>1646952
the problem starts even before sudowoodo I noticed. At least after it you are free to explore every town in any order you wish without being blocked, they managed to succeed in that in RBY so they could have done the same with GSC.
I suppose it feels this way because the production was really troubled, originally they looked completely different to what they have now and there is a lot of alpha/beta content around and probably they were about to be cancelled too at some point.

>> No.1646965

>>1646958
>You can also get evolution stones from trainers who call you, but it's such a rare occurrence I almost never encounter it on playthroughs.
Also only happens in Crystal.

>> No.1647037

I have a love-hate relationship with these games.

On the one hand, they're really fun and enjoyable, and give me a lot of nostalgia.
However, on the other hand, I hate -- fucking *HATE* -- the grinding.

Spending HOURS upon fucking HOURS just doing repetitive battles,
walking in the grass -- back and forth, back and forth, back and forth --
over and over and over and over and over again,
just to gain a few extra levels so you don't get your ass kicked at the next gym or by your faggot rival.

I wish that leveling your Pokemon was easier,
it would make the games much, MUCH more enjoyable.

>> No.1647041

>>1647037
Play X/Y. They retooled the EXP share to work like it did in Gen I, but without the EXP reduction (any pokemon that battled gets full EXP, everyone else gets half) but without the slow as shit text crawls, you only even get a notification that pokemon gained EXP if they leveled up as a result of the battle.

>> No.1647073

>>1647037
Replaying the games a few months back, I found it was possible to get a full team in RB with minimal grinding, so long as you're just about set in your choice team by Celadon or so,or at least 4-5 Pokemon you've been set on using. You can still wiggle in a late game Pokemon or two, like a fossil or a Safari Zone pokemon. silph Co. and Cinnabar's burned mansion provide a great place to level up without the tedium of low level wild pokemon.

Of course, the big problem is that it still keeps you from playing around with your team options without having to grind, and customizability is the game's strong suit, theoretically.

>> No.1647084

I honestly can't believe that it ever lasted more than a year as a fad. By all rights should have died off with Tamigotchi.

I had (have, for that matter) Blue, and played through and enjoyed it, but I never got any other pokemans. They are so shallow and silly and dear god the cartoon was wretched.

>> No.1647090

>>1647073
I always throw Zapdos on my team at the end of a run because you don't have to worry about a good electric type and he's almost as good at being a physical attacker as Dodrio is (due to having Drill Peck and only 20 less attack), and Dodrio is the best flier in RBY, and he can take on Lorelei pretty much single handedly without any grinding.

>> No.1647096

>>1645627
Took the words outta my fucking mouth

>> No.1647103

>>1646518
>Implying it's not harder to play as Charmander with Rock/Ground AND Water being the first two gyms

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>>1647084
This.
I have no idea why it's still popular or even why it was so popular in the first place

>> No.1647125

>>1646864
Ruby/Sapphire were the best IMO. Nothing will ever beat that.

>> No.1647137

>>1645742
>But then when I played the games (RBY), I loved it, because they didn't do that stupid shit.
>Likely due to the limitations of the GB/GBC's sound chip, but I didn't care.
Yellow used full speech samples in place of Pikachu's typical cry, so it could be done.

There's an obvious pause every time a sample plays, though, so it must have been taxing on the GBC's processor, and more than likely chewed up a good amount of ROM space.

>> No.1647143

>>1646272
isn't every pokemon game tedious?

>> No.1647145

>>1645626

Pokemon X

>> No.1647167

>>1647073
Who's in your typical team?

I usually do:
>Pikachu (obv.)
>Bulbasaur
>Charmander
>Squirtyle
>Abra

I feel like this gives me a good amount of range,
and you get all of them early enough in the game to make it viable.

>>1647125
>>1647145
>ruby/sapphire
>X
>retro
Get out.

>> No.1647204

>>1646272
>Not getting a Caterpie then levelling him up so the Metapod has tackle
>>1646375
>Not letting the Metapod evolve into Butterfree getting confusion
It's super effective.

>> No.1647208

>>1646892
>Where did the time go?
You were playing Pokemon. Or more likely just regular video games

>> No.1647227

>>1646965
Yeah to get other evolution stones you have to show specific Pokémon talk to that guy in the second half of the game.

>>1645882
Blue + Glitches = 151 Pokémon.

>> No.1647345

>>1647227
The glitches are half the reason I love gen 1. Glitch pokemon are oddly creepy, and I don't know why.

>> No.1647442

>>1647227
>Yeah to get other evolution stones you have to show specific Pokémon talk to that guy in the second half of the game.
Yeah, I pointed that out in >>1646952.
>You won't realistically get them until Kanto either

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>>1647442
So you did. Well there's always trading, or the Celebi Egg Glitch, or plain cheating. I'm actually disappointed they never got a New Game+ or something that lets you inherit a starter from an older playthrough.

>>1647345
Maybe something like this?

>> No.1647472

>>1647465
If you're trading or cheating, then that invalidates the fact that you won't get pokemon like Houndour, Larvitar and Sneasel until Kanto, so when talking about this kind of stuff you just assume that there's no outside help aside from maybe trading to get trade evolutions.

That said, I did do a run in Crystal recently where I had a Houndour egg at the very beginning of the game. Shit was so awesome.

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1647537

Gold by far, gen 2 introduced my top 5 favorites, and in my opinion was a vast improvement over gen 1

Honestly, I like the remakes more, but that's not retro

>> No.1647549

>>1646864
Pokemon Crystal: Emu Edition

It's Crystal but with minimal improvements to allow actually catching them all. Definitive version.