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Sup /vr/, I'm looking for games in the "fast-paced action sidescroller/platformer" genre, like Ninja Gaiden, Shatterhand, Batman and Vice: Project Doom. NES is preferable but I'll accept Genesis and SNES games as well.

Do these kind of games have a specific genre name? Or are they ust "action platformers?"

>> No.1629243
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1629243

Shadow of the Ninja

It's made by the same group that did Shatterhand, and is a lot like Ninja Gaiden in some ways. In fact, when the company developed a gameboy version, Tecmo bought it and turned it into Ninja Gaiden Shadow. Challenging, but short.

>> No.1629245

We just had this thread.

Magical Pop'n.

>> No.1629251
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Rygar

Action adventure with metroid-like progression. While not as fast paced as the other games mentioned, it suits your other credentials. It also has light rpg elements. It's very difficult, and I'd recommend using savestates for a full playthrough, but don't abuse them.

>> No.1629261

Check Hagane and Ninja Warriors on SNES

>> No.1629269
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Getsufuu Maden

Action game made by Konami. There's an English translation out there, but you can play it just as easily without understanding Japanese. The combat kind of reminds me of the nes Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, but the control is a lot cleaner. Unless you have a pipeline for obtaining Famicom carts, you'll definitely need to emulate.

>> No.1629271

>>1629261
Hagane isn't really that fast-paced to be honest.

>> No.1629279 [DELETED] 

Street Fighter 2010
Strider (NES and Genesis)
Shinobi 3
Dragon Fighter
Kickmaster
Rocket Knight Adventures
Cybernator
Ranger X
Run Saber
Lone Ranger
Contra
X-men 2 Clone wars
Terminator
Zen Intergalactic Ninja
Blades of Vengeance
Rolling Thunder (1, 2 and 3)
Alien Soldier
El Viento
Adventures of Batman and Robin
Power Blade 1/2
Gunstar Heroes
Ghouls n Goblins (series)
Journey to Silius
Star Wars games for SNES

That's some of them, have fun OP.

>> No.1629289

>>1629269

Well. I thought I was the only person that played that game.

>> No.1629291 [DELETED] 

Street Fighter 2010
Strider (NES and Genesis)
Shinobi 3
Dragon Fighter
Kickmaster
Rocket Knight Adventures
Cybernator
Ranger X
Run Saber
Lone Ranger
Contra
X-men 2 Clone wars
Terminator
Zen Intergalactic Ninja
Blades of Vengeance
Rolling Thunder (1, 2 and 3)
Alien Soldier
El Viento
Adventures of Batman and Robin
Power Blade 1/2
Shadow Dancer
Eswat
El Viento
Valis 3
Gunstar Heroes
Ghouls n Goblins (series)
Journey to Silius
Star Wars games for SNES

That's some of them, have fun OP.

>> No.1629292

Street Fighter 2010
Strider (NES and Genesis)
Shinobi 3
Dragon Fighter
Kickmaster
Rocket Knight Adventures
Cybernator
Ranger X
Run Saber
Lone Ranger
Contra
X-men 2 Clone wars
Terminator
Zen Intergalactic Ninja
Blades of Vengeance
Rolling Thunder (1, 2 and 3)
Alien Soldier
Alisia Dragoon
Adventures of Batman and Robin
Power Blade 1/2
Shadow Dancer
Eswat
El Viento
Valis 3
Gunstar Heroes
Ghouls n Goblins (series)
Journey to Silius
Star Wars games for SNES

That's some of them, have fun OP.

>> No.1629304

Ninja Spirit

>> No.1629403 [DELETED] 

>>1629231
Oniken

>> No.1629541

>>1629271
Neither are Shatterhand, Batman, or Vice: Project Doom.

>>1629403
Not /vr/.

>> No.1630532

>>1629269
They used the same engine as Getsu Fuu Maden for the TMNT game

>> No.1630537
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>>1629251
>It's very difficult

>> No.1630543
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>>1629231
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DdCulJ5uc4

>> No.1630556

>>1629269
>There's an English translation out there
Off-topic, but the translation is awful. It has too many mistakes (the hero's family name is Getsu, not Fuma), to the point that you're better off playing it raw.

>> No.1630559

>>1630532
No they didn't. Fuma simply swings his sword the same way as Leonardo.

>> No.1630561

>>1630556
It was one of the very first NES translations on the internet, it did not excuse the quality, but it is the reason why it is not as polished

>> No.1630567

>>1629251
>I'd recommend using savestates
I'd recommend against using savestates, because it undermines the whole point of playing a challenging game.

The whole point of playing a challenging game is overcoming it's challenge. There's nothing else. Beating it is only an end in itself in cinematic experiences. Actual video games consist of an obstacle, a set of rules and tools, and overcoming the obstacle by following the rules and using the tools. If you simply remove the obstacle by arbitrarily augmenting rules, you're ridding yourself of the only meaningful aspect of the experience.

>> No.1630574

>>1630567
>I'd recommend against using savestates, because it undermines the whole point of playing a challenging game.
This. The only time using save states in a game is suitable is when the game uses some complicated passcode system.

>> No.1630590

>>1630574
Dragon's Lair SNES had the worst passwords

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_owDUBxm7w

>> No.1630616

Kabuki Quantum Fighter

It's ninja Gaiden but you use you fucking hair instead of a sword

>> No.1630649

>>1630567
But what if you don't want to play a challenging game?

>>1630590
Jesus Christ, that's horrifying.

>> No.1630709

>>1629292

Which Terminator game?

>> No.1630778
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>>1630649
>But what if you don't want to play a challenging game?
Play another game? Seriously... Are you guys retarded?

>> No.1630831

>>1630778
>you're having fun wrong

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>>1629231

Play Genpei Toumaden. So much crazy shit happening on-screen for a game of 1986

>> No.1630875

>>1630567
Right. The goal of challenging games is not to beat them, but to master them. Once you beat them, then you try to beat them without using a continue (aka one-credit), then if possible you one-life them, and then if possible you try for a no-hit run.

Why would you play an old NES game for the story? That's like wiping your ass after taking a piss..

>> No.1631603

>>1630567
my point was that there isn't much in the way of a continue system. I completely agree that savestating can ruin the experience. I did that with Zelda 2 first time through and had a completely different experience when I got it on my 3ds.

>> No.1631626

>>1630831
You don't read a book if you're hungry.

Some of you really are retarded.

>> No.1631632

>>1630709
I have played the Genesis and SNES version, i recommend the genesis one, but it's short as fuck. The SNES version is decent but repetitive.

I add Robocop vs Terminator in both consoles.

>> No.1631903

>>1631626
>call someone retarded
>use a senseless analogy that "proves" jack shit

>> No.1631926

>>1630567

Sure, just beat Rygar in one sitting...

Generally, what you said is correct but Rygar is long and does not allow any saving whatsoever.

I'd say use savestates in Rygar, but only when you stop playing and then pick up where you left off.

Same goes with e.g. the first MegaMan.

>> No.1632702

>>1629231
code name: viper (for nes)

>> No.1634394

>>1630567
>>1630574
>>1630875
>STOP ENJOYING THINGS A DIFFERENT WAY THAN I DO, YOU CASUAL HEATHEN SWINE

>> No.1634397

>>1634394

The use of savestates trivializes gameplay in the worst way. Why the fuck are you playing a video game when you despise putting any effort into playing it so much?

>> No.1634414

>>1634397
I actually agree with everyone I quoted. What I detest is the general attitude that there's no point in playing a game unless you play it the way it's meant to be played. You claim that the only other redeeming feature of an NES game (once you make the gameplay trivial) is the story. I argue that one can find plenty of enjoyment in the experience of playing through alone, and that difficult gameplay gets in the way of that.

If someone has fun and gains lots of enjoyment playing through this way, what's wrong with it? Seriously, I think that's what this argument boils down to: why do you hate freedom?

>> No.1634415

>>1634397
I hope you understand the irony in calling someone out for 'trivializing' a fucking VIDEO GAME.

But seriously though, who cares? Get a fucking life

>> No.1634417

>>1632702
You might as well add the entire Rolling Thunder trilogy. RT1 had an NES/FC port, while 2 and 3 were on the Genesis (3 was a console original).

>> No.1634420
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>>1629231
Motherfucking Contra.

>> No.1634431

>>1634415
Then why the fuck are you posting on a videogame forum?

>> No.1634689

>>1634397
Sometimes because the game is fun with savestates. Sometimes because some games are better with savestates.

Same thing with cheats (built-in) and hacked.

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>>1630875
>Why would you play an old NES game for the story?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp-ICgFx5Hc

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>>1629231
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr0RSz-HPIw

>> No.1635634

>>1634394
>>1634414
>>1634415

Justify this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt2uyDqbA-Q

Why even play video games if all you do is save/load state to undo all your mistakes? You're just lying to yourself. You might as well just watch an LP.

>> No.1635640

>>1634431

Shut up nerd. I do what I want when I want. I live by my own rules.

>> No.1636883

>>1635634
Nobody cares, elitist fag.

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>>1629231
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QWvek04ep0

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>>1629292

Fantastic list

>> No.1637970
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1637970

Don't forget Turrican! I played Amiga versions, but Sega Genesis has a couple games, and maybe other consoles too.

>> No.1638084

>>1635634
Good to see the Gaming Police is here to prevent those degenerates from having BadWrongFun!

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>>1629231
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kuc1E-QEA6U

>> No.1639875

>>1637778
uhg no. Dont do that to OP man its not worth it...

>> No.1639917

>>1634394
It's fine to do what you enjoy, but don't call it what it isn't. You're not "playing Rygar", you're "cheating at Rygar"

>> No.1639942

>>1639868
Good ol' Sorcerers and Soldiers.

>> No.1639954

>>1639917
nobody except you gives a flying fuck dumbass

>> No.1639967

>>1639954
You obviously care. You took time out of your day to shitpost in this thread

>> No.1639974

>>1639967
How was that a shitpost? I think he's right, because I sure as hell don't care how Anon #495251 is playing Rygar NES.

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Guy who posted Rygar here. First off, I now know that if I ever want to troll /vr/, I should bring up savestating.

My point was that Rygar doesn't have much in the way of a continue system. And unless you have the time to sit for several hours to complete the game, you should use savestates so you can tackle it a section at a time. I agree that abuse can ruin the experience, there seems to be some confusion between the difference of savestating vs. savescumming. If you're reloading after every hit you take you're not playing a game, you're having a tour.

Any NES game that takes longer than an hour to complete and has no continue or a poor password system can benefit from savestating. It all depends on how much time you can devote to it.

That said, continue arguing about it if it pleases you.