/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1629132]

Do you prefer aesthetics, or functionality?

[Anonymous No.1629140]

I prefer Sega

[Anonymous No.1629146]

>>1629132
Functionality.

[Anonymous No.1629153]

>>1629132
I like both. That's why I have an AV modded Toploader and I'm going to RGB mod my AV Famicom.

[Anonymous No.1629158]

Both look terrible so the choice should be easy

[Anonymous No.1629160]

>>1629153
I think he means the look of the console.

[Anonymous No.1629171]

>>1629160
Well, I like the aesthetics of the Toploader and AV Famicom over the Toaster and the Old Famicom.

[Anonymous No.1629180]

>>1629140
>>1629158
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.1629187]

Functionality but if I particularly dislike a design of a model I'll go for a different one solely due to the aesthetics. For example I'd never use a genesis model 3 over a model 1 or 2 (which both look nice in my opinion) or for a less /vr/ related one both PS2's would be nice and the first two versions of a PS3 are good but I'd never touch that weird super-slim thing.

[Anonymous No.1629208]

it's not a clearcut dichotomy with standard NES VS toploader, since the toploader is superior in how it holds the cart. with it av modded, it wins the functionality contest hands down, especially when you note the dogbone controller.
I prefer the aesthetic of the classic NES, personally, which I suspect puts me in the minority.

[Anonymous No.1629216]

>>1629180
nintendrone detected

[Anonymous No.1629218]

>>1629140

[Anonymous No.1629226]

>>1629208
I think most of the people here like the aesthetics of the classic NES better. I like the Toploader better, but after getting a hold of a dogbone controller after all this time I can definitely say I prefer the original controllers better. The dogbone controllers felt good when I was a kid, but they feel too small in my hands as an adult now.

[Anonymous No.1629232]

Functionality
but it's hard for me not to choose aesthetics with newer consoles

[Anonymous No.1629238]

Both. Give me an AV Famicom because the NES has neither and the NES 2 costs almost as much.

[Anonymous No.1629249]

>>1629218
Fuck off with this shit

[Anonymous No.1629252]

>>1629249
You're the one shitposted something that had nothing to do with the OP.

Also, where does the SNES 2 fall in this? Is it better aesthetically than the original? Is it like the top loader NES which guarantees a game to work every time? Does the lack of an eject button hurt it?

[Anonymous No.1629256]

Functionality.
I like the Famicom/PAL SNES design, but I imported a SNES Mini because it's all-around better.

[Anonymous No.1629331]

>>1629252
>Is it better aesthetically than the original

What the fuck do you think? No seriously, it's all a matter of opinion.

It's smaller, it's lighter, it has superior video quality but can't output RGB natively, it has no eject button, it has no LED light, it won't turn yellow over time. Those are the only differences. Overall it's better.

[Anonymous No.1629364]

>>1629331
>it has superior video quality but can't output RGB natively
1CHIP SNES's have just as good of video and have RGB onboard, and they have better audio quality. You can also get 1CHIP SNES in Japanese, North American, and PAL variants, so if you hate the North American version's aesthetics you can always get the Japanese one for NTSC.

Also, all SNES's have the vertical line issue in dark games like Super Metroid. 1CHIP and SNES 2's both still have this problem to a minor degree. Only early Japanese consoles don't have this issue.

>it won't turn yellow over time
All SNES's yellow because all of them have flame retardant in the plastic. Later original SNES's, 1CHIP SNES's, and SNES 2's were made after they fixed the flame retardant mixture so they don't yellow as quickly as the earliest SNES's.

[Anonymous No.1629369]

>>1629140
My fucking nigger.

>dat sms ninja gaiden

Best Ninja Gaiden I've ever played to this day.

[Anonymous No.1629372]

>>1629364
>1CHIP SNES's have just as good of video

They don't, actually. A lot of times you'll see bad vertical bars in the picture, particularly with FF6. The Mini doesn't have this problem, and the colors are better too.

>they have better audio quality
The audio is identical. I have no idea where you're getting this.

[Anonymous No.1629373]

I have both NESes

The toploader doesn't have AV input, so I use the toaster.

I would actually be greatly interested in a modded toploader or some other mod that would play the games 100% of the time

[Anonymous No.1629405]

>>1629372
I've had my 1CHIP SNES and my friend's RGB modded SNES 2 and tested them out on my PVM monitor. There is no video quality difference in any of the games we tried on them, including FF6. Both of them have the vertical line issue. My early Super Famicom is the only system I've tried that doesn't have that problem.

[Anonymous No.1629417]

>>1629405
That's really weird. Because I have a Mini and don't see any vertical bars at all.

[Anonymous No.1629420]

>>1629417
http://retrorgb.com/snesverticalline.html

[Anonymous No.1629430]

>>1629420
Yeah well this guy thinks the Mini has better video quality than the 1CHIP and I honestly don't see a difference.

[Anonymous No.1629440]

>>1629430
>I honestly don't see a difference
That's the point I was making about the video quality between the 1CHIP and SNES 2, and that you don't have to mod a 1CHIP for RGB. I supposed that doesn't matter if you just want composite video.

[Anonymous No.1629448]

>>1629405
>>1629420
>>1629440
http://retrorgb.com/1chiprgb.html
http://retrorgb.com/snesminirgb.html

He bypassed the RGB amp on both the Mini and 1CHIP, apparently destroying the vertical line issue. That being said modding it like this is a royal pain in the ass and not worth it at all.

Someone will eventually make an RGB board like they did for NES and N64, surely.

[Anonymous No.1629454]

>>1629226

I like the Toploader aesthetics more because I can see the full label of the game in the console.

[Anonymous No.1629459]

>>1629448
>modding it like this is a royal pain in the ass
Really?
Doesn't look very difficult overall. Hardest part would probably be soldering the amplifier chip

>>1629440
Finding a 1CHIP SNES is the hard part. You can never really tell without opening the thing up.
Probably better to just buy a SNES Mini, because you can at least be sure it'll output RGB with a little modding.

[Anonymous No.1629480]

It's hard to say. The first model of the Genesis is the best, and that's what I own...but what if I want to get a Sega CD? Supposedly the Model 2 not only has less moving parts so it's less likely to break over time, but the load times are a bit shorter.

But come the fuck on, LOOK AT THIS. Model 1 GEN with a Model 2 SCD looks weird, but this...THIS.

[Anonymous No.1629482]

>>1629480
As opposed to this, which is just...ehhhhhh.

[Anonymous No.1629491]

>>1629364
>and they have better audio quality.

...Really? Not even RetroRGB mentions this.

[Anonymous No.1629495]

>>1629448
>modding it like this is a royal pain in the ass and not worth it at all.
Agreed. The issue isn't that annoying and I only really notice it when I'm looking for it. I'm honestly dreading when I finally do RGB mods for my AV Famicom and PC Engine Super CD-ROM2.

>>1629459
Well, all SNES1's have RGB. It's just the early ones don't have as good of video as 1CHIP and SNES 2's do.

And finding a 1CHIP isn't that hard. You can eliminate the earlier CPU-01, GPM-01, and GPM-02 models by looking at the model number, the eject lever, and the insides of the cartridge slot without opening it. You'll have to open it up though to tell the difference between the RGB-01, RGB-02, and and 1CHIP, though.

http://retrorgb.com/1chipsnes.html
http://kyorune.com/modding/article.php?id=13
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=33450&hilit=xrgb+mini+power+supply&start=780

I'm lucky in that the SNES I bought back in 1997 was a 1CHIP

>>1629491
I've been trying to find the site where I read that the audio was best on 1CHIP's, but I can't seem to find it. In any case, I know it's not a drastic difference like the various Mega Drive/Genesis revisions.

[Anonymous No.1629512]

>>1629252

i like this version better.

[Anonymous No.1630098]

>>1629440
I don't see a difference in the pic. What am I looking for?

[Anonymous No.1630513]

>>1630098
What I see on the SNES 2 is that the bright areas are a bit brighter and they tend to bleed a bit more?

I don't know, supposedly the SNES 2 has a better PPU for RGB output, but like anon said
>>1629440
It doesn't matter if you just want composite.

I don't think it matters even if you do care about RGB

[Anonymous No.1630539]

>>1629132
>/vr/
>preferring anything but functionality
git rekt /v/ stop trying to trick us.

[Anonymous No.1630872]

>>1629132
Both obviously

>being so pleb you can't work around any of the weaknesses

[Anonymous No.1630914]

>>1629512
I wonder why we didn't get this version here in the US? I mean, I can understand losing the four-color buttons to keep from looking "kiddie", but the shape of the console is pretty nice.

[Anonymous No.1630936]

>>1630914
The logic at the time was that it looked more similar to the original NES, and to make it look more affordable.

[Anonymous No.1630956]

>>1629512
Why would you want it? It looks so forlorn.

[Anonymous No.1630968]

>>1630956
He's sad because he needs a PAL.

[Anonymous No.1630973]

>>1630968
Getting real tired of your shit, Carlos.

REAL fucking tired.

[Anonymous No.1631028]

>>1630968
What did you do with Ultros fuckface?

[Anonymous No.1631787]

>>1629495
AFAIK the audio is the exact same for both.

[Anonymous No.1632208]

>>1629482
Doesn't the background music on the Model 2 not stop playing after you get to the menu.

[Anonymous No.1632238]

>>1630968
>(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

[Anonymous No.1632251]

Both. Thankfully my Toaster provides both. It runs every cart I put in it. First time, every time.

I still own a CIB toploader anwyays, but it's a horrid piece of shit in comparison to a -REAL- NES.

[Anonymous No.1632257]

I prefer Famicom.