/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1619813]

Tell me your favorite SNES rpgs
1. Chrono Trigger
2. Lufia 2
3. Super Mario rpg
4. Final Fantasy 3 or 6
5. A link to the past
6. Soul Blazer
7. Final Fantasy 2
8. Earthbound
9. secret of evermore
10. Illusion of Gaia

[Anonymous No.1619838]

>>1619813
There's like 30 of them at best, pretty hard to name the best and have variations. How about a JRPG Golden Age thread instead ?

Anyway :

Chrono Trigger
FF6
Super Mario RPG ( it would probably have been higher on that list if I knew italian )
Secret of Mana, even though I'm still incredibly bad at the game, I always get a nice mood when playing it
Illusion of Gaia, still not finished though
I remember a JRPG in which your house was burned and you had to go cross the world with someone accompanying you. What game was that ?
Lufia 2, still not finished either
Earthbound, though it really feels downright morbid at times.

[Anonymous No.1619945]

>>1619813
I'll give you my top 5
1. earthbound
2. chrono trigger
3. final fantasy 6
4. link to the past
5. illusion of gaia

[Anonymous No.1619948]

Earthbound and Chrono Trigger :^)

[Anonymous No.1619973]

>>1619813

None of them, honestly. Console RPGs were mostly Japanese developed and poorly localized. The only RPGs from that generation I could really get into were computer RPGs, and maybe the occasional computer RPG that saw a console port. Even then, Nintendo was enforcing such strict censorship at the time that console ports were basically slaughtered. Look at what happened to Ultima VII.

As far as SNES goes, I can get into some of the more difficult platformers like Super GnG, but that's it. If I want to play something for its story or convincing characterization, SNES definitely won't be my first choice.

[Anonymous No.1619995]

>>1619838
What do you find morbid about Earthbound?

[Anonymous No.1620092]

>>1619995
Not him, but Giygas looks like an aborted fetus.

[Anonymous No.1620102]

>>1619813
1.) Super Mario RPG
2.) Chrono Trigger
3.) Final Fantasy II
4.) Final Fantasy III
5.) Earthbound

[Anonymous No.1620108]

1. Seiken Densetsu 3
2. Live A Live
3. Treasure Hunter G (who I guarantee nobody else here has bothered to play)

[Anonymous No.1620116]

>>1620108

oh and 4. Terranignog

[Anonymous No.1620229]

Brain Lord is pretty sweet

[Anonymous No.1622048]

>>1619813
1 FFVI
2 Chrono Trigger
3 Lufia 2
4 Secret of Mana
5 FFIV
6 Illusion of Gaia
7 Earthbound
8 Harvest Moon
9 Secret of Evermore
10 That dragonball card rpg that i emulated in moon and somehow finished anyway

[Anonymous No.1622062]

Star Ocean
Seiken Densetsu 3
Final Fantasy V

[Anonymous No.1622068]

I am going to add the Shin Megami Tensei game. It is the only one I played. The sound effects were really good.

[Anonymous No.1622069]

>>1619813
chrono trigger
dragon quest 3
earthboliivd

[Anonymous No.1622073]

>1. Chrono Trigger

[Anonymous No.1622083]

>>1622073
>8. Earthbound

[Anonymous No.1622110]

>>1622062
Only thing worse than a hipster is a weebster.

[Anonymous No.1622120]

>>1620108
>who I guarantee nobody else here has bothered to play
Another weebster.

[Anonymous No.1622124]

>>1622110
you have inferior taste, sir.
*tips samurai helm*

[Anonymous No.1622169]

>>1622124
*bows honorably*

[Anonymous No.1622212]

1. Secret of Mana (dat multiplayer)
2. Chrono Trigger
3. Breath of Fire II
4. Earthbound
5. Terranigma
6. Illusion of Gaia
7. Final Fantasy VI
8. Link to the Past
9. Mario RPG
10. Final Fantasy IV

[Anonymous No.1622221]

1. Der Langrisser
2. Final Fantasy 6
3. Chrono Trigger
4. Lufia 2
4. Earthbound
5. Bahamut Lagoon
6. Seiken Dentetsu 3
7. Final Fantasy 5
8. Tales of Phantasia
9. Final Fantasy 4
10. Illusion of Gaia

[Anonymous No.1622272]

Chrono Trigger
Earthbound
Live A Live
Final Fantasy V
Seiken Densetsu 3

[Anonymous No.1622292]

1) Final Fantasy V
2) Live A Live
3) Breath of Fire
4) Treasure of the Rudras
5) Final Fantasy VI
6) Romancing SaGa 3
7) SMRPG
8) Bahamut Lagoon

inb4
>weebster LOL he doesn't even play our SUPER OBSCURE HIDDEN GEMS like Earthbound or Chrono Trigger xD

[Anonymous No.1622374]

>>1622272
>>1622221
>>1622062
how could you play FFV in snes? are you chinks? i played it on psx

[Anonymous No.1622439]

>>1622120
Are you this much of a cunt to everyone, boy? Dont see you proving me wrong either. The fuck outta here, check it out.

[Anonymous No.1622467]

>>1619813
>people still call zelda games other then 2 RPGs
Theres not even RPG elements you dumbfucker

[Anonymous No.1622480]

>>1622292
>weebster LOL he doesn't even play our SUPER OBSCURE HIDDEN GEMS like Earthbound or Chrono Trigger xD

you want a cookie?

[Anonymous No.1622502]

>>1622467

Zelda's mechanics are similar to RPGs, even though Zelda typically isn't classified as such.

Link's health is represented through a value similar to HP, even though it's displayed visually in hearts. Each heart container represents a certain value. I would calculate a heart is something like 4 units of health in most cases.

Link's weapons all inflict different damage values, and enemies have specific amounts of health. Link's defense power can also sometimes be upgraded.

The only thing missing is an experience level system. It can be thought that requiring the player to go around collecting upgrades individually is still a similar procedure. You aren't stuck with the same statistical abilities throughout the entire game. If you collect upgrades, your HP (hearts) or your attack power (sword upgrades) are being increased to meet the demand of exponentially difficult enemies just like in an RPG.

[Anonymous No.1622506]

>>1622502
just like demon's crest and super metroid

[Anonymous No.1622510]

>>1622506

Yes, I guess that's a good comparison. To be honest, I'm not sure exactly where the line is drawn. If these games represented their figures with terms like HP, Attack, Defense, etc. even though they involved the same procedures for upgrading them, would they be classified as RPGs then?

[Anonymous No.1622515]

>>1622502
so bayonnetta and devil may cry are now rpgs?

[Anonymous No.1622517]

>>1619813
1.FFVI
2.Earthbound
3. Chrono Trigger
4. SMRPG
5. Act Raiser (more RPG elements)
6. Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War
7. Secret Of Mana
8. Breath Of Fire 2
9. Secret of evermore
10. Tales Of Phantasia

[Anonymous No.1622525]

>>1622515
Well Dante was in SMT3

[Anonymous No.1622526]

Earthbound
Terranigma
Dragon Quest V
Seiken Densetsu 3
Live a Live
Lufia 2
Shiren the Wanderer
Shin Megami Tensei 2
Metal Max 2
Super Mario RPG

[Anonymous No.1622530]

>>1622515

I didn't say Zelda was an RPG; I said it had features in common with an RPG. Zelda is strictly an action-adventure game, except for Zelda II, which I guess is classifies as an action RPG.

I suppose RPGs are more strictly defined by rules systems, like leveling up, having character statistics similar to D&D, etc. The problem is how some games blur the line between action-adventure and RPG because they have so many elements from both.

[Anonymous No.1622534]

>>1622510
here's the answer.

All video games every made contain stats.
Even pong has paddle width, paddle height, paddle move speed, bounce velocity.

If you pong had you get to raise 1 of those stats every time you scored a point it would not suddenly become an rpg.

Stats actually have nothing to do with rpgs at all. You could 'role play' with 2 people where one person plays a cop and the other plays a suspect. The suspects goal is to convince the cop he is innocent. No stats of any kind are involved. This is role-playing and it can't actually be done in a video game because a video game gives you (at best) a dozen things you can say at any time. The presence of dialogue options does not make an rpg (unless you want to argue contra hardcorps is an rpg), only the absolute control of a character's entire spectrum, impossible when interacting with a computer, is role playing.

What people call 'rpgs' are just strategy games that have a heavy emphasis on exploration.

For more detail read this
http://insomnia.ac/commentary/the_rpg_conundrum/

imb4 alex is the devil

[Anonymous No.1622541]

>>1622530
Look, games that have leveling up, stats and the standard rpg fare are RPGs but besides asthetics Zelda as a whole besides 2 isn't an RPG.

It bugs me because back in the day thats what everybody called it and I was the wrong one even though I was correct.

[Anonymous No.1622547]

>>1622534
>seriously linking that dumbfuck's site
Icy pls.

[Anonymous No.1622551]

>>1622374
it's still an SNES rpg numbnuts

[Anonymous No.1622554]

>>1622530

Let me further expand on this. I would consider Tomb Raider a true action-adventure game. You have the adventure elements such as solving puzzles and finding items or keys that allow you to progress through the story. No sense of leveling up occurs throughout the game. Aside from finding new weapons, Lara's abilities are the same from the beginning to the end of the game. She can't gradually increase her maximum health, for instance.

Now, Zelda is obviously different. Link undergoes permanent growth throughout the game. He can increase his maximum health, magic points, attack power and occasionally defense power.

[Anonymous No.1622565]

>>1622554

Let's look at a game similar to Zelda, but one that's classified as an RPG nonetheless: Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles for GameCube. Characters don't gain any experience points and don't level up. Just like in Zelda, character health is represented in the form of hearts, and these can be increased by finding items. In fact, finding items is the only way to increase character power or add new skills, just like in Zelda.

Movement, attacking, defending and general progression are also similar. Enemies can't evade your attacks unless they actually move away from your weapon as you're trying to hit them. Damage figures aren't random, and the damage inflicted by your attacks against enemies isn't even indicated.

[Anonymous No.1622647]

>>1619813
1.-Earthbound
2.-Secret of Mana
3.- FFVI
4.- Illusion of Gaia
5.- Super Mario rpg
6.- Chrono Trigger
7.-Shining Force II
8.- Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War
9.- SMT II
10.-FF V

[Anonymous No.1622739]

>>1619838
>Super Mario RPG ( it would probably have been higher on that list if I knew italian )

I don't remember that being released in any capacity in Europe

[Anonymous No.1622740]

>>1619838
>I remember a JRPG in which your house was burned and you had to go cross the world with someone accompanying you. What game was that ?

Breath of Fire ?

[Anonymous No.1622745]

Zelda: A Link to the Past

[Anonymous No.1622750]

>>1620116
>Terranignog

[Anonymous No.1622797]

>>1619813
How's the fan translation of Mother 1 and 2?

[Anonymous No.1622965]

1. Tecmo Secret of the Stars

[Anonymous No.1622989]

>>1619813

Chrono Trigger #1

[Anonymous No.1622995]

>>1622515
That's like Saying Grand Theft Auto 3 is a driving game

[Anonymous No.1623049]

>>1622797
if you're referring to the GBA fan translation of mother 1, it's great. But don't play Mother 2 (Earthbound) on it, it's shit compared to the original SNES game

[Anonymous No.1623490]

>>1622965
ugh i remember playing that abortion. I hated that game even as a kid.

[Anonymous No.1623515]

>>1622965
>>1623490
lmao what game is that?

[Anonymous No.1623518]

>>1623515
Okay I'm an idiot and didn't read the first post, sorry.

[Anonymous No.1623529]

>>1623518
if i remember correctly there were some shockingly bad translation errors. Also, names for bad guys like "badbad" and healing items were called "yumyums" or something awful like that. Wasnt tecmo a company that made sports games? That might explain why it wasnt so great.