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Anonymous Tue May 13 09:07:52 2014 No.1618683 [Reply] [Original]

Severely disappointed with the lack of Star Control in here.

Where are all the *HAPPY CAMPERS*?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 13:25:24 2014 No.1618985 God, this was such a good game. How's the Ur-Quan Masters version coming along?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 14:55:45 2014 No.1619154 I really wish ur-quan masters has mouse support

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:52:28 2014 No.1619465 File: 168 KB, 350x289, Not a happy camper.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Not enough happy campers here.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:55:19 2014 No.1619476 >>1619154 For what purpose, that wouldn't be to useful.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:14:16 2014 No.1619513 >>1618985 "Coming along?" As someone who has only played UQM I wasn't aware there was anything in the original that wasn't in UQM yet. Am I misunderstanding?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 17:58:43 2014 No.1619605 I've always wanted to play the 3DO version.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 18:05:35 2014 No.1619621 >>1619476 in battle it wouldn't, but navigating would be nice

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 18:06:52 2014 No.1619623 >>1619513 he's probably talking about the hd remake, which has been public beta for the last year with no changes

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 18:10:45 2014 No.1619631 >>1618683 silly old cows went to /modern retro/

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 18:55:39 2014 No.1619725 >>1619605 That's what the Ur-Quan Masters is. Get playing friend!

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 22:29:44 2014 No.1620206 Too bad It has really shitty ship controls.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 22:41:30 2014 No.1620226 >>1620206 this again. do tell me how you'd design the ship controls with 6 digital buttons.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 05:21:39 2014 No.1620882 >>1620226 I'd have the ships not float off and on screen.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 05:28:39 2014 No.1620885 File: 23 KB, 640x480, raiden-trad-04.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1620226 How about like any of the good shmups?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 05:56:11 2014 No.1620903 File: 59 KB, 500x500, imiwakaran.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1620882 I don't recall having the ship "float off and on screen".

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 05:57:38 2014 No.1620905 >>1620903 Has it been awhile since you played it?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 05:57:48 2014 No.1620907 File: 141 KB, 640x480, starconshmup.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1620885 and how would that even remotely work?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 06:00:39 2014 No.1620909 File: 14 KB, 640x480, sc2_melee2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1620905 tell me again, then

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 06:03:39 2014 No.1620912 >>1620909 >tell me again, then Couldn't you just reread the post?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 06:07:42 2014 No.1620919 >>1620907 >and how would that even remotely work? Like the boss fights in shmups but on a smaller scale.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 06:09:22 2014 No.1620921 >>1620912 I still couldn't see any ships "floating off and on screen" in that post.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 06:12:39 2014 No.1620925 >>1620206 git gud

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 06:17:05 2014 No.1620932 >>1620921 Look harder.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 06:18:59 2014 No.1620935 >>1620921 If you went pass the edges of the screen you would appear on the other side. Unless I'm thinking of a different game.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 06:20:25 2014 No.1620936 >>1620935 how would you fix that?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 06:23:56 2014 No.1620941 >>1620936 Have a border and maybe zoom in as you get closer to the enemy ship and zoom out as you get further away.

Anonymous Wed May 14 06:24:39 2014 No.1620942

>>1620882
The hell are you talking about, your ship is always shown, you're probably mixing it with a different game. Or you played Ilwrath and didn't understand alternate fire.

>>1620907
I don't know if he's just wanting left is left right is right up down arcade movement instead of rotate and thrust, but it will just make one aspect of the ship's strength/weakness void.

>>1620935
Ship's still "on screen" all the time though.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 06:31:30 2014 No.1620950 >>1620941 They already have the zooming feature. Border (insta death? bounce?) I think would severely affect game balance between ships, cornering and stuff. Not that the balance isn't already a mess, though.

Anonymous Wed May 14 06:33:12 2014 No.1620951

>>1620941
They already did the zooming in/out based on distance >>1620909, and what would be a good "border" related to the setting and what will it do, kill the ship on impact?

>>1620942
>I don't know if he's just wanting left is left right is right up down arcade movement instead of rotate and thrust, but it will just make one aspect of the ship's strength/weakness void.
"one"? You mean the whole damn game? There's inertia, gravity, and 360(/16) degrees of movement.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 06:38:04 2014 No.1620959 >>1620951 You could still have rotate with arcade controls. Just have a rotate button.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 12:36:29 2014 No.1621313 >>1620226 4 buttons for the cardinal directions, two more to shoot, easy peasy and intuitive.

Anonymous Wed May 14 12:38:49 2014 No.1621316

The game really isn't that good to be perfectly honest. I like the characters and the story and the exploration, but the problem is the major mechanics of the game are a mess. Looking for minerals is a pain in the ass and the combat isn't very good. It's a cool game for one or two playthroughs but once you remember all the dialogue and characters there really isn't much replay value.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 13:00:14 2014 No.1621349 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VogVAHlUKME

Anonymous Wed May 14 20:04:52 2014 No.1622243

>>1621313
>>1620942
>it will just make one aspect of the ship's strength/weakness void.
Also, try hitting another ship NNW from your location using 4-direction digital d-pad. It's a different case with analog control. Also, they already thought about one more thing I'm sure you haven't.

Anonymous Wed May 14 20:13:14 2014 No.1622268

>>1621313
>intuitive
you mean dumb fucking downed.
as been said, different ships have different rotation and thrust/acceleration speed parameters that makes them unique from one another. different strategies would be needed to tackle their mobility as well as utilizing gravity wells for slingshots. plus the ability to aim on 16 directions.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 20:32:13 2014 No.1622310 >>1622268 Well perhaps they should have done more to differentiate the ships then if turning speed is such an important stat. The controls are going to suck no matter what if that's the focus of maneuverability.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 21:01:05 2014 No.1622396 >>1621316 Solar Jetman got the controls right.

Anonymous Wed May 14 21:57:33 2014 No.1622542

>>1622396
Huh, I thought the controls are the same (for the probe, not the jetman).

>>1622268
You can also fire backwards while moving to the other direction.
Played properly the Cruiser is the ultimate bane of the Dreadnoughts. The Avatar still needs to get close to deal damage from which the Dreadnought can easily fire back, and once the Avatar's probes are gone the fighters will kill it easily.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 15 02:57:35 2014 No.1623000 >>1621316 Seconded. This game is far from perfect.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 15 04:30:26 2014 No.1623067 >>1622542 >Played properly the Cruiser is the ultimate bane of the Dreadnoughts Propelling yourself with gravity wells is the key, right?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 16 09:33:34 2014 No.1625406 >>1623067 Always the key with any ship really. A well done gravity slingshot can be the key to victory with practically most ships. I really want to do a tournament now. How many would be interested in that?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 16 12:04:55 2014 No.1625550 >>1625406 >I really want to do a tournament now. How many would be interested in that? I can only imagine myself getting owned by Zoq-Fot-Pik by someone who clearly knows what he's doing, by sounds good.

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