Pinball General

[Anonymous No.1604804]

>Physical tables
http://pinside.com/pinball/map/where-to-play

>Vidya
>VP; 2D recrations
http://www.vpforums.org
>FP; 3D recreations
http://www.futurepinball.com
>TPA; 3D recreations
http://www.pinballarcade.com
>U3DP; 3D recreations
http://www.unit3dpinball.net

>discussion and blog posts
>>>/right here/

[Anonymous No.1604824]

>>1604804
>yesterday
>keep dropping multiball after metamorph
>up to 27 skillshot multi
103,916,510
>today
>get the billion, 5m, 50m <break> 5m, special <break> billion <break> and final billion
3,287,068,860
>minus big wheel
totally beat yesterdays score

[Anonymous No.1605589]

My brother and I had a pinball game for the SNES.

I think you could play as 1 of 3 people. One was a pirate and one was a clown. Not sure what the 3rd one was.

I could be totally off base. In fact the game might have just been entirely pirate themed.

Anyone have a clue what I'm talking about?

[Anonymous No.1606053]

didn't think I was going to get it, started recording right before the M was lit.

[Anonymous No.1606545]

>no Pro Pinball
Seriously?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjR1CPKZios

[Anonymous No.1607210]

>>1606545
>Pro Pinball
slipped my mind, haven't touched it yet but their lighting sim flashers make my screen tear.
>doesn't show up in recordings or screenshots
>TPA does the same thing when I launch a ball
>AMD/ATI

[Anonymous No.1607271]

>>1607210
hmmm I've forced Vsync and I don't believe I get screen tearing in the simulation now but I swear I can still see a little bit of it in TPA.

[Anonymous No.1607424]

>Craptus err Cactus Canyon
>able to catch ball going up the inlane
>gunfight
>can't catch ball from a lower starting free fall

>get 3/5 rank on ball 1
>get 4/5 from bounty reward
>miss 3 gun fights over 4 balls
I hate you gun fight, don't put the damn target on the same side as the ball.. jerk.

[Anonymous No.1607745]

>>1607424
CC is probably the most disappointing pin I've ever played. People hyped it up because it's rare, but the gameplay is so average and it feels like an incomplete game (because it is).

[Anonymous No.1607770]

Looking for the name of the pinball machine where they used 3 balls at the same time and had a horror circus theme (I think).

[Anonymous No.1608003]

>get to 4/5 rank, gun fight is lit and on my last ball
>the plunger reward is 'advance in rank'
>no goal text comes up
>complete the gun shot
>no text
>collected the bounty
>screenshot
>let the ball drain
>check the goals screen
no wizard goal for 'advance to marshall' fuck yall.

[Anonymous No.1608063]

Anyone here have a real machine?

Pic related.

[Anonymous No.1608187]

>>1608003
got it, at 13m, avoided the advance rank at 4/5.
>missed twiced but hit it as it was unlighting on the 3rd wack

>5/5 Wizard 10/46
>TOTAN
>Gorgar
>SS
>High Speed
>Funhouse
>Flight 2K
>Black Hole
>BoPB
>BK2K
>CC

[Anonymous No.1609521]

Am I the only one who loves this table? It was really good, actually.

[Anonymous No.1609913]

>>1608187
>add centaur to the list

>tfw losing balls and gaining balls at the same time
now this is podracing.jpg

[Anonymous No.1610278]

well at least it's better than only 650 on a single ball, it isn't 1000 but it's close.

any tips on this one? I nudged a bit to deaden the ball so it would fall on the top bumpers(?)

[Anonymous No.1610947]

>>1610278
>tried to bump up to the 30 point center but got tilt'd

[Anonymous No.1611021]

>>1608063
>pro

Worth 3k more to get rid of the face

[Anonymous No.1611035]

>>1610278
SixAxis learn to nudge get special. I've played 9 ball games.

[Anonymous No.1611341]

>>1611035
the goal where it's 1,000 points on one ball is what I'm going on about, and I'm finally past it.
>got 900ish twice
>got 800ish once
>got 700ish three times
>all that attention poured into a game with no inlanes and puny gimp flippers
Played some games with a bunch of good nudging action.. but they didn't score shit in the end.

[Anonymous No.1611416]

>make it to check point 4
one day ill get to space with my jalopy

[Anonymous No.1611430]

>>1611341

>manage to score more than 1000 on one ball
>manage to score more than 3000 points in one game
>but it was still in the game where I finished the regular challenges so it didn't count for the wizard challenges

Man, fuck Central Park. I can't nudge in video games for shit, it just doesn't feel natural to me.

[Anonymous No.1611452]

>6m first game
>20m second game
>70m and growing third game
man once you beat the table they just give you the adventures, back on air tactical now.

[Anonymous No.1611504]

>>1609521
God yes, I played the shit out of this one at hockey rink in my tiny little town. I've always been a massive mario fan, so this was a major treat for me to play. I also got to play the small one, mushroom world. That one was still good for how simple it was, plus you got tickets for a good score. Those were some good memories.

[Anonymous No.1611530]

>>1611452

62M and growing first game here.

[Anonymous No.1611537]

>third ball
>manage to time Window Shopping perfectly and lite the extra ball I need
>botch the sewer shot, ball goes down the outlane
>ball recycled
>botch the sewer shot again, ball goes down the outlane

Fuck. Really could have gone better.

[Anonymous No.1611591]

>>1611537
I'm still paused, called on for help.. hopefully I won't waste all the balls when I get back to it

[Anonymous No.1612503]

>fireworks 21
>defeated
>fireworks 26
>escaped
>fireworks 20
>defeated
man I went in trying to just get the super jackpot and never got it.

[Anonymous No.1612526]

>>1612503
>would be spot 49 atm
>next week be like 50,000th in all-time

[Anonymous No.1612713]

>>1612526

Those leaderboards are pretty weird. Sometimes I thought I got a pretty decent score (200 mil on Monster Bash) but it's like 20000th all-time, and sometimes I thought I got a pretty decent score (~600 mil on Champion Pub) and it's 59th all-time. I guess I just can't judge what a good score is.

[Anonymous No.1612737]

>>1611504
Yeah, it incorporates the theme surprisingly well, and the backglass is awesome.

The latter can't be said of the horrid Street Fighter one. Who approved this shit?

[Anonymous No.1612947]

>>1612713
the point scaling on modes like monster bash or monsters of rock can get you 600m by themselves if you're decent I guess.

>personally hate champions pub
>best game was 83m
sounds like a game worth watching

[Anonymous No.1613190]

>>1612503
got all the wizard goals for junk yard, doggie double was taking awhile.. it took so long that getting the hair dryer was the only item left to pick up so the DOG video mode had to award me it lol.

>trying to flip through the options with the left flipper
>miss the shot
>try to align it again

[Anonymous No.1613239]

>two sets of three-ball multiballs
>went fine
oh hey they fixed it!
>3rd set of three and it bugs
damn!

[Anonymous No.1613276]

>actually light all three lower left drop targets
game face.jpg
>get the extra ball
>no wizard goal
>ball three 2.2m...
Guess I'll go for the 2.5m

[Anonymous No.1613279]

[Anonymous No.1613285]

So Junkyard is out or something? Is Diner out yet?

[Anonymous No.1613294]

>>1613285
>TAceHigh
been in there forever, unreleased due to unpopularity
>TDiner
>THighRollerCasino
new table files on my HDD, we get to wait another month before a table comes out, during the livestreams they said it's a 1 a month deal now.
>they didn't confirm Diner was next
>streamer said his favorite table music was on a unreleased table they had been working on but said BK2Ks is the best out so far.

[Anonymous No.1613306]

>>1613294
>TLightsCameraAction
missed this one

[Anonymous No.1614148]

So those are just dummy files, or they have nothing but the ROMs in them and music or something? Or we're to believe that they're all ready to go and just waiting our money for them to pull the secret unlock key out?

[Anonymous No.1614289]

>>1614148
I could reinstall w/ 5 different patches and see what their pattern was but iirc they would announce/hint at the next table
>livestream they said they wouldn't announce it anymore
>wouldn't know after Diner
don't know what they mean by this when they put these files in with the patches going out.

[Anonymous No.1614353]

Is there a decent source for classic pinball music? Lots of 80s and 90s machines (Rollergames, for example) have really nice FM-synthesized music that I'd love to be able to play elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.1616534]

[Anonymous No.1616585]

>>1616534
Tap pass, cradle separation, live catch, and drop catch on Pinball Arcade would be more RNG.

[Anonymous No.1616642]

>>1616585
can we tap pass like on youtube? (not full range of motion) I've seen some players go one flipper to the other by cradling and hitting the bottom of the bumpers to pass it
>doesn't work on all tables though

[Anonymous No.1616772]

>>1616642
Tap pass should work on Centaur, I'm ready to try now that I can cradle separate with precision flipper pressing.

[Anonymous No.1616942]

http://papa.org/play/techniques/
i'll put this in the OP next time, I really haven't looked into techniques, just played and played and figured a few of those out myself.

[Anonymous No.1617416]

So what's the consensus here on The Pinball Arcade? How accurately do these tables play compared to the real thing?

I haven't purchased any of the table packs yet, but I have been playing ToTaN for a few weeks now. Managed to score a nice 250million a couple of days ago.

Also managed to discover a Pinball Museum around me in Asbury Park, NJ, looking forward to spending a day there on an upcoming weekend. I don't know if anyone here posting lives in that area or has any experience with the place.

But yeah, I've been pretty affected by the Pinball bug within the past few months.

[Anonymous No.1617610]

>>1605589

I can't believe no one could answer this. It's Super Pinball: Behind the Mask.

[Anonymous No.1617634]

>>1607770

Hmm... Cirqus Voltaire? I'm not sure about horror. The 3 balls is pretty common as after multi-ball was invented in like 1980 (I think Firepower was the first to do it?) every machine had it so that's not super helpful.

[Anonymous No.1617656]

>>1617416

I backed The Pinball Arcade very strongly for a long time, but they've disappointed me so many times now I've done a complete turn around. The machines play ok. The graphic reproductions are nowhere near the preservation quality they'd have you believe, usually they look pretty sloppy and are often outdone (graphics wise, at least) by VP tables. They are great at making promises and either not fulfilling/forgetting about them, or just taking forever to get to them, and they are great at spreading resources thin. They don't have a huge staff, but they are attempting to release on every platform and it has fucked them up. I will buy the packs the moment there is a cheap sale, because they are decent enough to play, just not sure I am comfortable throwing 100 bucks or so their way at the moment. I may have a change of heart once they introduce the new interface, and friend leaderboards. As far as closeness to the real pins, the only game I feel able to comment strongly on is BK2K and without boring you to death I'll say it's off, but not a total loss. The artwork doesn't look right as is sadly usually the case.

[Anonymous No.1617720]

>preservation quality
I play it to have fun, can't comment on their reproduction quality >>1617416

[Anonymous No.1617937]

>>1617656
The kickout on Twilight Zone is way weak / predictable. Only varies in direction during Powerball multiball.

[Anonymous No.1617938]

Does anyone remember the other, really sarcastic / deadpan version of this commercial? "It's Sonic...it's pinball...(spits with implied disgust toward the viewer) it's new Sonic Spinball (you worthless viewer)"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGk1Yqf5MII

[Anonymous No.1618121]

>>1617610

Aah, KAZe. Those guys did the two Digital Pinball games for the Saturn, as well as Akira Psycho Ball for the PS2. Nice games, all of them.

[Anonymous No.1618156]

>>1607770
Fun house?

[Anonymous No.1618202]

>>1607770
The Pinball Circus, only 2 machines were ever made.

[Anonymous No.1618256]

>>1613190
I got all of the wizard goals for JY on my first game. Which means they didn't count. I hate that shit.

[Anonymous No.1618992]

[Anonymous No.1619007]

>>1607745
"For anyone who hasn't played a CCC, it's a game changer. I think the added code makes the CCC a top 5 entry. Eric's code is just simply amazing. I owned an original CC and loved the theme and enjoyed the humor of the game. CCC supercharges the modes and adds even more humor."

-on Cactus Canyon Continued, completed fan software ROM release

[Anonymous No.1619143]

>>1614148
>>1614289
here's what I know

[Anonymous No.1619162]

>>1619143
I had also played 1.20.4 but no longer have the files for that and fish tales wasn't out yet so I'm guessing the PC port came out after season 2 was finished
http://www.pinballarcade.com/TablePacks/

[Anonymous No.1619197]

I hope they wait until the end of the season for HRC. W?D already gave us a casino theme this season, and I think it's way too soon for another.

[Anonymous No.1619273]

>>1619197
well steam says season 3 will only have 10 tables and we're at 6/10 atm, we know Diner is confirmed so 7/10.. if these two tables are any indication that they'll be added this season it's 9/10 for this season.

[Anonymous No.1619425]

>this time record my attempt
>extra ball doesn't lite on turn around
>still get an extra ball on left ramp
>no goal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O7gHG9gMYU
>google it
apparently 'the simulation' wants the upper play-field THEN the lower play-field

[Anonymous No.1619479]

Why is PA so expensive? Shouldn't the full season 3 cost less since there's so fewer tables this time?

[Anonymous No.1619510]

So for what might possibly the first time on the Internet somebody finally got some pics of the Zingy Bingy board after a prototype of it was recently shown off at a fundraiser for Python Anghelo's medical treatment.

Somewhat NSFW but hopefully it won't be too much of a problem to post.

[Anonymous No.1619550]

>>1619510
that's great. Got more pics?

[Anonymous No.1619635]

>>1619510
>no penis flippers
Fake

[Anonymous No.1619719]

>>1619635
There's one right on top of the guy's crotch, you didn't notice it?

[Anonymous No.1619952]

>>1619719
That's a standard B/W mini flipper broseph not a penis flipper. Have we been misinformed about penis flippers? Flipper representing a penis then.

[Anonymous No.1620178]

>>1619479
you can add 'pro menus' in your list of complaints
>cant scroll over the table without pro menus Table Exploration
>but browsing via instructions is fine

[Anonymous No.1620594]

120 millions on MM. I remember when I used to struggle just getting 50m.
I feel like I'm getting better. At this rate I think I can reach 500m and maybe even 1b... didn't even take me that long to get 120m, I remember when it used to take me half an hour just to get 50m doing lame safe strategies. But going for royale madness is really worth it.

[Anonymous No.1620742]

>>1620594
grats on the...
>tfw doubled your old score

[Anonymous No.1620753]

>>1620594
Nice.

God, MM is so good. I'm bad at it, but it's so fucking fun. So many multiball opportunities.

[Anonymous No.1621032]

>>1619550

only this one

[Anonymous No.1621338]

>>1620753
actually I believe there's three ways, the knights and the [collective] madness, you can repeat knights but I'm guessing you have to beat the table to repeat madness.

plus the one I haven't done yet which is Barnyard multiball, don't know how repeatable it is.

>tfw your ball comes back down the left ramp on MM

[Anonymous No.1621340]

>>1620594
>going for score on Madness and only taking out 3 castles

[Anonymous No.1621408]

>>1620594
so I went and did barnyard multiball since I hadn't done it yet and this is what it's like
http://youtu.be/GU1em8xHFHg

>had 5 castle hurry ups build to 12 million and a castle door open for almost half my initial score

[Anonymous No.1621418]

>>1621408
>paused recoding because food on the stove
sorry I didn't edit that out

[Anonymous No.1621435]

>>1621338
>slam machine hard to left, activate right flipper, give no fucks

[Anonymous No.1621553]

>>1621435
the ramp gives it a bunch of momentum, I've tried many times, on the ramp, on the way down, right between the flippers... once it goes up a certain point and back down I haven't had luck with stopping it.

[Anonymous No.1621646]

>>1621553
You need real analog motion control, I can't play on tablets anymore. Only allows violent left/right motions. You need to be able to push up on the machine too, and on the diagonals, and to slam left/right quickly like in the videos.

PS3 controller with invert nudge is the way...only problem is the drivers are cancer. Remap X360 left analog stick to SixAxis motion.

I nudge machines like a pro now in real life, the game's as good for learning rulesets as it is for building nudge muscle memory...but only if the muscle movements are keyed to slamming the controller itself.

[Anonymous No.1621679]

>>1621646
I've only got a original dualshock controller, I'll look into making the sticks nudge or something.

[Anonymous No.1621694]

>>1621646
>and to slam left/right quickly like in the videos.
that reminds me, watching some PAPA stuff and the table is basically being dragged left and right 'nudging'.

[Anonymous No.1621719]

>>1621679
You don't want sticks, you want the controller itself to nudge and input as an analog stick by means of invert nudging. When you slap the controller the intertia pushes the "stick" in the opposite direction.

Is there a Wii wireless classic controller with shoulder buttons + movement? Will it work with Pinball Arcade?

[Anonymous No.1621730]

>>1621694
I wish I had a rotating monitor that could stand like that, putting mine in an upright position is seriously hard. It never stays still.

[Anonymous No.1621735]

>>1621694
Josh Sharpe's save during competition in Congo was the craziest thing I've ever seen...full 90 degree rotation of the table followed by carefully lifting it back up during play to get it back under the cameras. Danger grace period like on Doctor Who.

[Anonymous No.1621740]

>>1621730
I lay mine down like a pinball table but it's a pain in the ass doing it every time

[Anonymous No.1621760]

>>1621735

Is there video of that? That sounds fucking insane.

[Anonymous No.1621764]

>>1621730
here's the stand I made before i bought that monitor

[Anonymous No.1621770]

>>1621730
oh and this rotating monitor.. I go back n forth during the week and it's like every two-three weeks the power cord wiggles out.
>not all sunshine and rainbows

[Anonymous No.1621904]

>>1605589
love this game there's a Japan only sequel and 2 games by the same dev on Saturn one called necromicron

[Anonymous No.1622468]

>>1621760
It's in the Papa Pinball YouTube channel but I'm not sure what event / which round.

[Anonymous No.1622612]

>>1611416
>>1611530
>>1611537
>>1612503
>>1613285
"Barry Oursler was just a screwdriver guy"

-Python Anghelo, 2014

[Anonymous No.1622614]

>>1618992
"Mark Ritchie didn't design pins, he stole every idea he ever used."

-Python Anghelo, 2014

[Anonymous No.1622625]

>>1622612
>>1622614
http://www.pinrepair.com/topcast/showget.php?id=42

[Anonymous No.1622787]

Nobody posted the windows xp pinball game yet?

[Anonymous No.1622825]

>>1622612
>>1622614
They couldn't write a half page essay, ok? They don't know kinetics...they don't even know the history of pinball.

[Anonymous No.1622828]

>>1619635
>>1619952
Is not a penis...is a fleeper

[Anonymous No.1622832]

Lawlor copy my head idea for Funhouse...he broke into my office with Larry DeMar...while I was fishing in Canada.

[Anonymous No.1622849]

And by the way, Addams Family is not Pat Lawlor's game...it is ours...it is Robert Sharpe's, do you hear me?

[Anonymous No.1622859]

Barracora / IPD No. 177 / September, 1981 / 4 Players

Roger Sharpe tells us that he and Steve Epstein designed this game and Barry Oursler built up the whitewood based on Roger's mylar layout.

>JJP's third game is doomed, Lawlor is a screwdriver and hammer guy

[Anonymous No.1622867]

I invent the talking fish Americans became obsessed with, Williams cheapskates too cheap to put on Fish Tales.

I invent Pinball 2000, Capcom cheapskates too cheap to put on Flipper Football.

[Anonymous No.1622869]

>>1617610
Damn, I have this game. It scared me as a kid, something about the box. I've never actually played it.

[Anonymous No.1622870]

I invent lower playfield with camera, Larry DeMar steal, now no one can do

[Anonymous No.1622879]

Larry DeMar was stealing shit at night and bringing it to Data East.

[Anonymous No.1622885]

Pat Lawlor, I don't wanna talk about that guy...evil man.

[Anonymous No.1622887]

>GN, HH, STTNG and Victory left for standard goals
>can't get past 80 seconds on GN
>gotta look up whats a bonus builder, got to 75K
>generally dislike playing STTNG
>gotta complete a few rounds of racing for the 10m

[Anonymous No.1622908]

>>1622887
Picard Maneuver, feel the speed. I broke 6 billion last night. Feels good. Picard Maneuver dude. Final Frontier. Plunge the wizard mode.

[Anonymous No.1622913]

I invent Hang On but on LaserDisc, Sega steal later.

[Anonymous No.1622929]

"Steve Ritchie would still be great like me if he sipped a little red wine and had oral sex from a beautiful woman"

[Anonymous No.1622938]

Williams had a PI spying on Capcom, he was dumpster diving and piecing our shit back together

[Anonymous No.1622946]

HEH holy shit...you think they had a plan to do a magic game before? And who did Theatre of Magic? John Popadiuk...the guy doesn't even feel about pinball...he will do anything, he is a chameleon, a lizard...and Python knows it because Python is the king of snakes...I eat Popadiuks for breakfast

[Anonymous No.1623028]

I have a movie script where Popeye builds a space cruiser and he’s fighting the oil companies and he decides that it’s bullsshit that he has to save the Earth by getting oil on other planets.

[Anonymous No.1623452]

>playing Twilight Zone on TPA
>ball goes into the bumpers
>goes out bad
>starts teetering on the rubber between inlane and outlane
>mfw I bumped my hands against the bottom of my laptop out of instinct

Well, that was embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.1623457]

Also, when I was got Fast Lock and managed to lock the ball, the camera was fixed on the shooter lane even though the balls were already coming out, and the camera wouldn't move even after I shot the ball. So then I had to play Fast Lock Multiball like this. Not conductive to good scoring, but a hell of an experience.

[Anonymous No.1623470]

>>1623457
I've had that happen myself on that table and AFM (rarely). No amount of camera changes/pausing helps

[Anonymous No.1623476]

OH SWEET JESUS IT'S DOING IT ON LITZ TOO SOMEBODY HELP ME MY NECK IS PERMANENTLY TILTED AND I MUST PLAY PINBALL

And then the game got completely FUBAR after LITZ, as it constantly gave me three balls in the shooter lane, but as soon as one of them dropped out, the ball was over. Seems there was some mistake in the cleanup routine, as the gumball machine wasn't properly refilled.

[Anonymous No.1623486]

>>1623476
No shit been like this for m!any versions useless software

[Anonymous No.1623590]

>>1623476
I got three billion on the first ball last night. Got to Lost in the Zone before Collecting Bonus from the camera and said SHIT because game was over.

800 million on Lost in the Zone, cool. Had 6 more balls to go after that and earned another midway, who cares. Game is over now after Lost in the Zone, I hate playing with multiple balls at a time / draining one / flippers go dead.

Fuck Twilight Zone, best game ever my ass.

[Anonymous No.1623596]

>>1623457
>>1623476
>plunge ball after Lost in the Zone
>flippers dead, try another
>repeat ten times
>plunge ball twelfth time
>activates slot machine
>spits two balls out
>play
>one ball ends up on Power Field
>flippers go dead
>other ball drains
>HAHA YOU LOSE YOUR BALL
>repeat

[Anonymous No.1623746]

>>1622887
>Gone Nuts and STTNG left for standard goals
I liked black holes lower level over haunted house
>tfw the level you entered gets double points but it drains right away

[Anonymous No.1623928]

>8 or more shuttle simulations in one game
>can only get 6 caverns deep
at least it's easier to get to than AFMs video mode.

[Anonymous No.1624207]

>>1623928
Left Left Right Right Left Left Right Left Any

[Anonymous No.1624468]

>>1624207
thank you mr data

[Anonymous No.1624539]

>>1623457
>>1623476
TZ is totally broken right now, dude. Don't bother playing until they fix it.

[Anonymous No.1624584]

>get to 113 seconds on the clock
>lose a ball
>get multiball back at 70
>only to lose it a second later
I'm goin' nuts

[Anonymous No.1624693]

From the internet:

"When I was about 11, I lived in Eastbumfuck LI. There was 1 general store and it had a pinball machine. The kids all played it endlessly and it payed out in extra games. There was a minister who lived in the area and had no arms, due to a birth defect. He could play that pinball machine like a violin and would rack up 20 or more free games and yell us kids to share them amongst us.

Now, that was a pinball wizard."

[Anonymous No.1624709]

>>1624693
you can watch therealhandy(?) on twitch, amputee playing vidya games every day like CS:GO, even has a webcam.

[Anonymous No.1624714]

>>1624709
The preacher was a thalidomide baby, he had normal hands sticking out the shoulders.

[Anonymous No.1624717]

>>1624709
Hes not an amputee, he was born with a birth defect.

[Anonymous No.1624724]

>>1624717
yeah my bad I didn't know the backstory, I was just gonna mention that's what I thought vs what it is.

[Anonymous No.1625106]

>why can't I hold all these balls

[Anonymous No.1625485]

Fucking finally.

I thought I was going to have a fucking heart attack before I managed to light the locks. It gets really hard on the third time around, when you have to light both targets first, then hit one and hit the other one within a few seconds or the first one gets unlit again, especially when you're on your last ball.

[Anonymous No.1625486]

Managed to score the traveling hazard twice on this game, made three multiballs (never with a triple jackpot, though), had some timely raft collections during 5x Playfield and some lucky extra balls coming in at the right time.

Now I just need to get that 5-way combo.

[Anonymous No.1625612]

>>1625485
>>1625486
grats, I've avoided white water myself because I find the boulder garden likes to pop that ball right down the middle.

[Anonymous No.1625712]

Red is related to Rudy, makes reference to his brother in a circus. - Pat Lawlor 2010

[Anonymous No.1625908]

>>1608063
Unfortunately not, but I'd love to have the Creature from the black lagoon machine one day.

[Anonymous No.1625985]

Just got 9.93 billion on Star Trek TNG. Almost Q Continuum. Two Final Frontiers and rip that juiced spinner.

[Anonymous No.1626085]

Well, I managed to succeed in the 5-way combo challenge on Whitewater, but not by actually doing the 5-way combo. Farsight's buggy code came to my aid for once - quickly executing two 3-way combos (in my case Spine Chiller -> Insanity Falls -> Disaster Drop twice did the trick) awarded me the goal just as well.

And that's a good thing, because seriously, the 5-way combo can go fuck itself. The way to do it is Spine Chiller -> Insanity Falls -> No Way Out -> Insanity Falls -> Disaster Drop, and the Insanity Falls -> No Way Out part is fucking impossible. I managed to do it like twice in about half an hour of concentrated trying, and those two times I was so surprised I either botched the next Insanity Falls shot (the first time) or barely didn't have enough power for Disaster Drop (the second time).

You've got a shot that gives you a quite variable amount of speed coming down, seemingly independent from exactly how you started it in Insanity Falls, and somehow you're supposed to do a backhand into No Way Out from that? Fuck that noise - that's lunacy.

You've got an insanely small window of opportunity to continue the combo, which means catching the ball, tipping the ball then catching it with the right flipper or tipping then one-timing it from the right one are all out of the question - you've got to backhand it to be able to make it in time.

Has anybody managed to do this? The entirety of the Wizard challenges for Scared Stiff and every other Whitewater challenge wasn't this dickish.

[Anonymous No.1627197]

>>1626085
Wait until Nordman rapes your ass IRL on Wheel of Fortune

[Anonymous No.1627248]

>>1625106
>beat 130 by 2 seconds
>got recording to look over
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfKnIk3IN6k
so how shit am I?

[Anonymous No.1628852]

Hobbit will have an interactive map on the apron and possibly a lower playfield underneath the main playfield, shown on the video screen.

[Anonymous No.1629458]

"I'm the King of Flow, that's what they say, isn't it...and they're right, those people." -- Steve Ritchie

[Anonymous No.1629469]

"There are no Stern whitewoods, we pull all the parts off them, throw them in a bin and build them again"

[Anonymous No.1631089]

[Anonymous No.1631146]

>>1631089
TNG did that to me after I did some weird ball locking during Romulan mode, only it was yet another Farsight error. Should call themselves Oversight.

[Anonymous No.1631443]

>>1631146
monster multiball does that on purpose after you complete the 6 objectives and fill the stiff o meter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywlDHlsd61M&t=15m04s
>wants the PS4 lighting so bad

[Anonymous No.1631503]

>>1631443
No shit try doing it 3 times in one game and see how far it makes you stand back from the table.

[Anonymous No.1631763]

>tfw you double your trillions

[Anonymous No.1632357]

>>1631763
I meant billions, using slots, so many commas I get excited.

[Anonymous No.1632905]

>get top weekly score in Elvira
>realize it's monday

fuck it, king for a day

[Anonymous No.1633320]

>>1632905
grats, I should probably register...

[Anonymous No.1633323]

>>1633320
boy am I tired of 'get these drop targets 6 7 8 times.. on one ball' goals.
>elvira & space shuttle

[Anonymous No.1633406]

>>1633320
virtually identical

I tend to do well by randomly picking a table and spazzing out for 5 minutes before going on a long run when I wasn't expecting it. I don't like to practice, I find myself fucking up horribly and getting easily frustrated.

I wonder if my pinball fx scores are still any good.

[Anonymous No.1633414]

>trying to get double slide
>got the jackpot
>two of the balls held
>third is in play but the score board isn't supposed to look like this
>waiting for music to end
>shoot third ball into party punch ramp
>nothings happening
just great, when I get to the jackpot stage its like NAW BRAH NAW

[Anonymous No.1633431]

>reset ball
>scoreboard doesn't change
>launch it
>drain it
>still nothing
>try to reset it again
Captain! I'm picking up large amounts of rage in this sector.

[Anonymous No.1633449]

>>1633431
I used to own an EATPM. Traded it for one of these.

[Anonymous No.1633495]

[Anonymous No.1633526]

>>1633414
yeah I think I had that problem too .Like you have to wait to hit the jackpot. I had all of the shots timed pretty well at one point so there were probably 2-3 jackpot shots that went for nothing

Elvira seems to require heavy nudging too to really get a high score but i'm awful at that outside of desperation when it's going down the outlanes

also i'm drunk

[Anonymous No.1633536]

>>1633323
didn't know this was a possibility, thanks RNG

[Anonymous No.1633586]

>>1633406
my profile.dat(high scores) isn't being accepted by FX2 after the new star wars heroes DLC, guess I gotta find another steam emulator that'll send my scores to steam so I can fetch them after the update
>first world pirate problems

[Anonymous No.1633587]

>>1633586
i paid for all of it therefore I am better at pinball

[Anonymous No.1633616]

>>1633587
your highscore doesn't count if your machine is set to free play.

[Anonymous No.1633729]

>>1633586
1) already lost the scores before
2) was only a re-leveled Epic Quest with epic equips
Guess I'll just suck it up and keep screenshots as mementos

[Anonymous No.1633779]

Hey /vr/, what 3D pinball program is best? Used Pinball Arcade for the longest time but I'm looking for something graphically as good playing as good.

[Anonymous No.1633806]

>>1633779
there's 'Pro Pinball', I personally haven't gotten a torrent of it to work (DirectX 3 era) luckily there's a remake in alpha currently. You could try a current game like Pinball FX2 (pic related)

[Anonymous No.1633834]

>>1633806

Thanks, but I was looking for stuff like Medieval Madness. Tried VP and had bad luck with it and sorting through Future Pinball has a whole shitload of mechanical tables before 1980. Sort of ironic for a game with the word future in the title to have so many old tables.

[Anonymous No.1633869]

>>1633806
That playfield looks like King of No

[Anonymous No.1634745]

Gary Stern refused to make a Harry Potter pinball machine, feeling it wasn't for a "broad enough audience" and was "kid's stuff". He therefore focused on themes like NASCAR, World Series of Poker, Elvis, and the prime time dramas 24 and CSI.

[Anonymous No.1635720]

>cut up both my hands today
>play anyway
yay double slide, Elvira done.
>15 of 47 5/5'd

[Anonymous No.1635776]

forgot what awards the second extra ball on this table >.< Taxi you're next on my list.

[Anonymous No.1636006]

>get the CAB extra ball
>get the score extra ball
>drain till 5th round
>use mouse to pull plunger all the way to always get 75~100K
whats with that shit, pressing enter [my controller] and not even holding it for long passes 75-100K.

[Anonymous No.1636094]

>>1636006
25 is the real pro shot

[Anonymous No.1636120]

>>1636094
I agree, fuck picking up pinbot

[Anonymous No.1637631]

>some how got the special when activating multiball
whatever guess I'll pull my hair out trying to do 7 sets of those drop targets

[Anonymous No.1638231]

>>1637631
>people say Pinball Arcade doesn't give you real skills
>plays the exact same ROMs as the machines
>go to arcade
>play Theater of Magic
>activate Digital Pinball
>nail it
>light outlanes
>multiball
>crazyballs
>drain eventually
>CRACK
>skills

[Anonymous No.1639437]

>>1638231

Yeah, I went back and played some Virtual Pinball and rocked at the same tables I did in Pinball Arcade. I didn't like Virtual Pinball that much though, something about it doesn't feel right.

However it did have one table I'd like to see in Pinball Arcade when they get around to making it.

[Anonymous No.1639757]

>playing whirlwind
>got all the doors lit and 5/6 multiball
>on last ball
>damn spinners play red rover across the playfield with it and angle it just so I lose it
you're going down whirlwind.

[Anonymous No.1639790]

>>1638231

I think what it does do either way is teach you the ruleset since you can play it again and again without having to put in money each time. For some games, knowing what to do is really all you need to know to keep the ball in play.

[Anonymous No.1639801]

I have never played a real pinball machine... until today. I had played a bunch of Pinball Arcade, but never the real thing. Attack From Mars is way cooler in person, but it's a much different experience. The one thing that struck me is that the balls seemed way bigger than I thought they'd be. Is that a variable thing?

In any case, I had a lot of fun.

[Anonymous No.1640420]

>>1639801

Yeah, ultimately pinball is a lot more fun in reality, when you can see and feel the table. Unfortunately the only table I was able to play was a table that wasn't made for new players so I drained all 3 balls within 2 minutes of play.

[Anonymous No.1640740]

>get 4 bonuses on the first two balls of big shot
>wind up with 68k points
>how is that even possible

>start off with two bonuses and 58k points after the first ball
>wind up with 72k

goddamn sometimes that table makes me want to die

[Anonymous No.1640745]

>got the mega door goal after having all the doors lit and missing on ball 3... 4 times
alright now I just gotta get lucky and have one of the multiballs fall over the special...

[Anonymous No.1640750]

I just downloaded a 900mb patch for pinball arcade on the ps4 (i'm australian) i was hoping it was a fix for the shitty sound, at the very least but no.. what the fuck did it do?

[Anonymous No.1640751]

>>1633495
titing would have been funnier.

[Anonymous No.1640756]

>>1640745
>gain two extra balls on ball 3
>multiball ends quickly
>eventually lose it down drain and special unlights
>next ball get quick multiball
>they drain at the same fucking time in each outlane
>launches last ball and it falls straight to the right outlane
FUARK man I had lock lit for ball 6 special, the one that doesn't go away after a drain

[Anonymous No.1640760]

>>1640756
>get most of this shit done before ball 3 this time

[Anonymous No.1640762]

>>>1640760
>even got the second special from the ball 6 lock and earned it

[Anonymous No.1640767]

>>1640740
big shot and central park make my blood boil, 250K and 42K bonus is what I got left on there
>two scores that break 100K, 145K & 111K
>ever

good luck

[Anonymous No.1640772]

>>1640767
I've hit 200k with Big Shot, but it seemed kinda fluky when I did it because it was the 4th and 5th ball where I got resets and did a lot of damage. This time I realized I could really put up a huge score and at one point just watched the ball go down the middle instead of bothering to nudge I was so frustrated.

[Anonymous No.1640796]

>>1640772
>tilt four times to get to 5th round
>usually some bullshit happens with 3 or less balls lit and have to restart
last round actually got a bunch and a special but no goal.. guess it's a 'get all drop targets on one ball on round 5'

[Anonymous No.1641852]

anyone shoot this reliably? I've been on and off this table and I can't seem to nail down the shot
>practice by reseting the game over and over
>perfect setup
>still don't make it
>rarely goes in the area during speed golf/cart attack
>rarer yet multiball for super jackpot

[Anonymous No.1641864]

>>1641852
bah wasn't recording.. need to review this shot

[Anonymous No.1641924]

here we go

[Anonymous No.1641954]

>>1641924
and in slow motion
If I knew how to pause frames and draw shit over it on an overlay I'd be all over that
>john madden.jpg

[Anonymous No.1642056]

>two balls locked
>get a hole in one to start multiball
>doesn't get the superjackpot that round
well at least watching when to shoot the flipper helped because I got it a couple games later.
>game before it, 3 balls right after each other chain missing the damn hole in one target

[Anonymous No.1642529]

>>1642056
Be more like Bowen and Keith...19 holes in one in one game? 1 billion + with extra balls...600 million + with none. Shoot the J

[Anonymous No.1642620]

I need to setup a front end.. so I don't see this table ever again. You can't remove the table file without the game not working q.q

[Anonymous No.1642848]

[Anonymous No.1642872]

>>1642848
that one was really 19K since I just nudge it to death the first four rounds

this one (pic) is only 112K, ended at 150K :(

[Anonymous No.1643941]

Twilight Zone is still broken yet the Kickstarter page where they made all their customers pay for the $87,000 license is still up.

[Anonymous No.1644993]

>shoot through the right ramp and off the table
>shoot the ball through the table from the top left flipper right into the outlane
I swear this table has a FUCK YER SHIT switch on the middle ramp when you're in multi ball, STDM NO PASS GO NO TRIPLE SCORING

[Anonymous No.1645086]

>>1609521
It's got a great design but to me there's a lot of better playing tables out there. It feels a little slow to me.

[Anonymous No.1645438]

>there will never be another PC pinball simulator as awesome as Timeshock!
I always wanted a real-life conversion of that table to exist, somehow.

[Anonymous No.1645553]

>got first extra ball on ball one
>2.48m w/ one ball left
>two blue/two red away from the other goal
didn't get the targets but ended up with 3.15m

[Anonymous No.1645568]

[Anonymous No.1645586]

TFW F-14 pinball in my front room and fully functioning

[Anonymous No.1645825]

>woke up from a nap
>no glasses
>beat new PR
>still needed 2 blues left for the last goal
I started recording at the point when I was in 2 ball multiball and shot up the right ramp.. through the table and I figured out LOL ONE BALL DOUBLE SCORE because they don't autolaunch it.

I got a new glitch I hadn't seen before too (perhaps) shooting through the upper playfield again, ill have a video up in 30m

[Anonymous No.1645938]

>1645825
http://youtu.be/bsIeiT73o-A

[Anonymous No.1646792]

>got robbed on ball 2 and 3
>didn't get goal

[Anonymous No.1646801]

[Anonymous No.1648967]

got a video encoding, a new glitch appears, some how one of the balls goes north of the bumper on the top playfield and stays there until I lost the ball I was playing and nudged it[stuck one] back into play.

another 'shot through the upper playfield' again, the right ramp into space didn't make an appearance but the ball not catching and calling attendant and one nudge didn't work.. so I had to UP/LEFT nudge and thankfully it didn't tilt me and continued on.

[Anonymous No.1649081]

>1648967
http://youtu.be/8bPYIF_Ptb4

[Anonymous No.1649124]

>>1617610
I'm 14 days late, but fuck yea. That's the game.

Thanks for helping.

[Anonymous No.1649174]

apparently they like to post on their FB before their news page, >>1619143
LCA is next.

[Anonymous No.1649261]

How are the emulation/physics from Pinball Arcade? How does it compare to, say, Visual/Future Pinball or Pro Pinball: Timeshock!? I never found the physics in VP/FP very compelling.

[Anonymous No.1649284]

>>1649261
'not perfect' iirc the issues are 'air balls' and 'no spin', while there's an animation that looks like spin.. it's for show. 'The bounce' is another issue for those that play real tables have to 'un-learn' from TPA. Personally I am not sure myself if it's just modeled after new rubbers or it's exaggerated.

I hope the unity3d pinball takes off, I haven't the GPU for it atm so I cant comment on their physics.

[Anonymous No.1649301]

there's some moves you may also be able to do on a real machine that aren't possible [at least from what I've tried] like the tap pass, which may or may not be an input sensitivity thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbyKhPE921w

[Anonymous No.1649337]

>>1649301
I can tap pass by shorting out control through a nudge glitch for approximately 1/60th of a second, cycling whatever flipper is being held down.

[Anonymous No.1649339]

>>1649284
Just heard Bowen say on a recent recording that the FarSight people choose not to emulate properly because then their customers will feel screwed over when a ball jumps over the flippers (like in real pinball).

[Anonymous No.1649469]

>>1649261
>>1649301
TPA flippers basically behave like they have oly two speeds, 0 and 100%, which makes practically all flipper techniques impossible. Bounce pass is the only one that works properly because it doesn't involve moving flippers. Post transfer works because they have specifically programmed it into the game, which means that it is either way easier than in real life (the time window is huge) or it doesn't work symmetrically / at all on some tables.

In Pro Pinball: Timeshock, you can do ALL the things in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlLjhoarx9c
The dropping speed of the flippers is faster than in the sequels (BRUSA and FJ) so it makes backhanding, cradle separation and post transfering much harder, but they are still completely doable.

[Anonymous No.1649478]

>>1649469
So 15 years later we still have shittier physics. Ahh, it's frustrating. Can't they just buy the ProPin engine from whoever they are able to and use it instead?

[Anonymous No.1649479]

real machines got problems too

[Anonymous No.1649487]

>>1649478
Oh lookie, turns out the original ProPin devs are making a remake of Timeshock: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz17Kw9eGwg

It's looking good.

[Anonymous No.1649519]

>>1649469
I can drop catch in Pinball Arcade, why can't you

[Anonymous No.1649621]

fack one set of drop targets left and I would have teh wizards

[Anonymous No.1650231]

>both of them drain before the last target drops

[Anonymous No.1651463]

Who's played the new Stern Star Trek game? Is it a "true sequel" to his earlier Star Trek: TNG? Seems to have the Picard Maneuver and quadrant-named ramps, and the central ship shot...and "timing out modes" for "Kobyashi Maru" aka Final Frontier.

[Anonymous No.1651743]

Boss

[Anonymous No.1653926]

Atlantis rules you

[Anonymous No.1654886]

>>1649124

You're welcome man.

>>1649174

Shit, I thought it was gonna be Diner. I want Diner more than anything right now.

[Anonymous No.1654903]

>pinball thread
>it's all fake pinball
Don't you people play real machines?

[Anonymous No.1654950]

>>1654903
Don't you read the OP?

[Anonymous No.1654960]

>>1654903
Since you're the fucking expert, compare the new Star Trek to TNG

[Anonymous No.1655006]

>>1621694
What's the name of that monitor stand? Is it still for sale anywhere?

[Anonymous No.1655195]

>>1655006
that's the stand it came with, It may not float around like an LCD arm but it isn't useless like those 21:9 monitors that cant rotate.
>>1654903
the real machines are in 3 locations, a personal museum not open to the public unless it's one day in September or two locations a couple towns over.

I don't think this thread would last a weekly visit

[Anonymous No.1655651]

Man, this TPA thing really looks like shit. They look 100% worse than fan-made VP or FP tables. I'll stick to VPinMame and Pro Pinball.

[Anonymous No.1655829]

>>1655651
And I'll stick to playing pins at the arcade down the road, as well as machines I personally own.

[Anonymous No.1655831]

>>1655829
I envy you. The only arcade in a 200km radius that had pinball machines closed down several years ago.

[Anonymous No.1656045]

Played a shitload of pin today but got horrible sleep last night and sucked. Played Embryon, Popeye Saves the Earth, Cirqus Voltaire, Fireball, Star Trek LE, Whirlwind, Black Knight 2K, The Party Zone, Superman, and more.

It's a lot easier to drop catch and live catch in real life. Guns 'n Roses had the new black rubbers and it was even better on that. But fuck, does the ball do some weird shit. Climbed over my girlfriend's flippers, and I hit the glass 100 times. Real life flippers can have some real variance in power and qualities.

[Anonymous No.1656073]

>>1655651
not to be an apologist but the PC port came after season 2, Nov '13, some tables had already been 'made' by farsight years before hand for consoles
>Pinball hall of fame Gottlieb/Williams collections
>2004, 2008
and they haven't updated the art since, but I'm sure it's been promised
>game dev promises
>laughingwhores.jpg

[Anonymous No.1656079]

>>1656073
forgot my comparison pick
>season 3 table vs season 1 table

[Anonymous No.1656084]

>>1656045
>>1656079
Oh yeah they'd just gotten the shiniest table I'd ever seen, a like-new Junkyard. Passed it by, gave no fucks...Oursler was just a screwdriver guy.

[Anonymous No.1656367]

I wanted to get into making webms, so I fired up Timeshock for some footage to play with and managed to get a nice drop catch on tape.

[Anonymous No.1656376]

Also, here's some fresh footage from the upcoming remake.

[Anonymous No.1656475]

>>1656084
Yet you played Popeye.

[Anonymous No.1656510]

I don't suppose you can do this on a real table then?

[Anonymous No.1656518]

[Anonymous No.1656540]

>drop catching in the wrong direction

[Anonymous No.1656592]

So what's the verdict on Wizard of Oz? I was at the German Pinball Open in Nürnberg last weekend and got my first opportunity to play one, and I was blown away. There was so much happening, it was a joy to try and figure out. Then again, I get a boner over overly complex rulesheets that take ages to work out, so maybe it's just me.

>>1656510

To a lesser degree, you can. It requires a good eye for the ball to quickly notice if it's going to go past the flipper or not, but you can at least increase your chances with a good bump.

[Anonymous No.1656703]

[Anonymous No.1656705]

[Anonymous No.1656804]

>>1656475
Designed by Python, oursler stole credit.

[Anonymous No.1657571]

>>1656367
Verrry nice. I can never do catches. You need to chill a bit though, ball was heading straight for the center pin there at the end.

>>1656376
The footage I'd seen was missing the arm. Have they been releasing newer alphas?

[Anonymous No.1657619]

>>1656804
>Python
You know, I liked the guy, but he really was full of himself. He did more artwork than he did game design.

[Anonymous No.1657654]

>>1657619
That's a common misconception. Anghelo designed the entire pinball game, from concept through art through layout.

The people who get credited as "designers" are usually project leaders etc. People like Roger Sharpe who actually laid out the design for Addams Family get zero credit...only gets credit for acquiring the license. Why? Money men, copy cats, rapist communists.

Here's a hint from the Barracora information page on IPDB: "Roger Sharpe tells us that he and Steve Epstein designed this game and Barry Oursler built up the whitewood based on Roger's mylar layout."

Just like he designed the others games, and as Python did. But were they screwdriver guys? Did they attach the slingshots to the playfield? Nope, they just told Oursler where to put them...he wanted the credit more.

You think Python cares for credit? He took 32,000 dollar paycut to go from Disney animator to work on Joust...does he get credit for designing Joust? Of course not, the copy cats do.

He takes 119,000 dollar paycut to leave Williams for Capcom. John Popadiuk steals his ideas even then.

Read the Fountainhead.

[Anonymous No.1657671]

>>1656540
You drop catch when it's coming to you from the other side, that angle requires live catch while Pinball Arcade's physics can't handle.

[Anonymous No.1657737]

Imma let you finish but John Borg is the best designer of ALL TIME

[Anonymous No.1657991]

>>1657737
Are you one of those Iron Man fans or one of those Metallica fans or just a Stern fan?

[Anonymous No.1658054]

>>1657571
No, just short preview videos of the new time machine and crystal renders.

[Anonymous No.1658060]

>>1658054
>ref(ra/le)ctions from the crystal on the back
Yummy. I hope they fix the bloom on the lights though. The labels are all mostly unreadable when they're lit on the preview and all videos I've seen.

[Anonymous No.1658130]

>>1658060
The lights can be adjusted (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXvXG7ZvIC0&t=3m3s).).
Also, a quote from the latest update:
>This video [new one of the arm] shows the typical state of an animation after the raw renders are processed, without any fixing and cleaning up. Most brightness issues can be fixed with adjustments but some of the frames are very bright and noisy and these need re-rendering. There are 81 animations for the arm.

[Anonymous No.1658495]

I have no idea what I'm doing

[Anonymous No.1658508]

>>1658495
Doesn't matter anymore, DS3Tool just took down my computer for the third time.

[Anonymous No.1658710]

>>1658508
I personally use JoyToKey for my USB2Playsation dual shock controller, does your system not recognize the controller without DS3Tool?

[Anonymous No.1658721]

>>1658710
Dual shock can't nudge using the built in accelerometer by remapping left thumbstick to sixaxis motion control then selecting invert nudging to allow for slaps and nudges.

Visual Pinball can't even map flippers to the trigger buttons, they're apparently for plunging the ball (genius).

[Anonymous No.1658725]

>>1658710
Microsoft Windows computers recognize the Sony Playstation SixAxis controller and then delete / overwrite / corrupt your DLLs to punish you for using their competitor's joysticks.

You can't even come close to using one on a Windows computer without MotionInJoy or hacked versions of it.

[Anonymous No.1658739]

>>1658725
What. No. PS3 controllers behave as completely normal USB joysticks except for one snag: they don't output anything until you sent a special non-standard USB packet to it (at which point it springs to life and works just like a regular gamepad.)

And don't use MotionInJoy, it's chinese malware shit. Use SCP Wrapper: http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-XInput-Wrapper-for-DS3-and-Play-com-USB-Dual-DS2-Controller

[Anonymous No.1658743]

Has anyone remade any Epic Pinball tables?

[Anonymous No.1658745]

>>1658739
SixAxis is DualShock3 not 2

[Anonymous No.1658748]

>>1658745
Yes, and?

[Anonymous No.1658756]

Back to Visual Pinball, how does this work? Is there something I should be doing to tell it to not zoom in 1000x on the center of the playfield?

How do people tell it how to display the table? I've got the Vpin, the vpinmame, the roms I need, the table, the fonts and the nvrams and the .vpts for the Tables folder...table boots up fine, the ROM works...but fuck if I can see what's going on, it's all zoomed up. Do I hardware accelerate instead of software? Carry the one? Cross a t somewhere?

[Anonymous No.1658831]

>>1658721
well with 360ce I can nudge with the left thumb stick but I don't seem to be able to use the Dpad or the stick to go through menus, weird.
>plunging with right stick isn't smooth at all either

[Anonymous No.1658967]

>>1658831
The Windows control panel deal can run a test on the inputs, my "left analog stick" is me tilting the controller and shows up as the crosshair in the window. X and Y correspond to the right analog trigger, while Z corresponds to the L and R shoulder triggers. Why is this and how do I use it to map my left trigger in Visual Pinball to the nudging?

Visual Pinball works, The Shadow table is just fucked apparently. The question is, how do I change the viewpoint? These are just vectors being rendered, how can I look down upon the tables with superiority or in portrait monitor mode?

[Anonymous No.1659152]

>1658831
>try 360ce with joytokey for shits and giggles
>unbind everything but analog sticks in 360ce
>go ingame
>flippers are always up
>but nudging softly/plunger still work
no idear what's holding up the works

[Anonymous No.1659163]

[Anonymous No.1659172]

>>1659163
well this worked
>>1621764 my controller

[Anonymous No.1659209]

These visual pinball tables are variable in quality and my 3d objects are all blotchy meshes

[Anonymous No.1661362]

>goals but no 5/5 on tables lately

>got lucky on super jackpot during a loose multiball

>get the 15m hurry up during multiball
>sweating at the 4th launch and actually make it
>5th launch zomg I did it
>6th launch hey this isn't so bad
>7th direct hit, I GOT THIS ON LOCK DOWN
same game I got up to 3m pmp but i dunno how to get to 5 since the ball bounced pretty erratically (thanks to the momentum)

[Anonymous No.1661394]

>grab a copy of timeshock sourced from gog
>it's the dosbox version
ancient obelivr

[Anonymous No.1661596]

>>1661362
>got a bunch of 3m pmps
>figured out it was Loop pass, stop with flipper and let it dead pass for another loop pass
so is this table like Pin*bot? just chase loop for 5m?
>3x jackpots are meh
>super jackpot was 50m

[Anonymous No.1661620]

went back at this and got it too tonight
>best ball 1 at 508K
>587K
>610K
>667K
>869K
thanks RNG for letting me have two good rounds.

[Anonymous No.1661673]

>still no luck getting that spinner to 7000

[Anonymous No.1662029]

>>1661394
GoG has the Windows version now. Also, if you pay them 1 pound on pro-pinball.com you also get the game for windows.

[Anonymous No.1662361]

>>1661596
You can't loop pass on pinball arcade see >>1656540

[Anonymous No.1662527]

>>1662029
grabbed a torrent, 1997 didn't have real TATE (portrait) mode... so I'll wait for the remake

>>1662361
>chase loop, leave flipper up and let it bounce up, it will eventually come back to the left flipper ready for another orbit before the timer is up

[Anonymous No.1662589]

>>1662361
kinda like so

[Anonymous No.1662907]

>>1662589
Loop pass is dropping the left flipper as the ball contacts it after a chase loop, thus passing to the right flipper by dead bouncing off the left.

Works in Visual Pinball, just sends your ball plummeting down the drain in Pinball Arcade.

[Anonymous No.1662969]

>>1662907
not calling you a liar but I did do it fairly quickly before the timer went off on my food so I don't know how reproducible it is.. only any given table.

[Anonymous No.1662973]

>1662969
>on any given table.

[Anonymous No.1663024]

>>1662969
Yeah totally superior

[Anonymous No.1663040]

>>1663024
there's no argument which looks good, sadly I cannot record at or above 60 fps to see how/when loop passes are successful or not. At 24fps the ball has already hit the flipper between frames

I could cheat and make dxtory sync video FPS at 24/30fps but the length of the recordings is doubled and the playback gets too fast when doubled.

I'd play VP too if it would work on my system.

[Anonymous No.1663047]

It's interesting how hobbyist software dating back to the 90's looks better than a commercial production from today.

[Anonymous No.1663049]

>4 fps

[Anonymous No.1663062]

>>1663047
sadly the commercial production catered to mobile devices and consoles before the PC.

Also the commercial aspects suck
>why fix bugs and update the graphical art if we can't sell it?

[Anonymous No.1663068]

>>1663040
>>1663049
>>1663047
I just ran high definition Tales from the Crypt in Fullscreen tah-tay and it was a good 600 fps. Fan software from the 90's > everything else, always. Just go into my MAME ROMs and boom, get the table.

Makes me wonder how Pinball Arcade devs can claim their tables require 100+ MB because of their music, yet the actual sound ROMs that Visual Pinball and real machines use are 1 MB or so usually.

[Anonymous No.1663071]

>>1663068
>tables require 100+ MB because of their music
Because they're going and just ripping an .ogg file or whatever and including that, instead of actually emulating the sound properly (or even just using tracked music). Incompetency, basically.

[Anonymous No.1663076]

>>1662969
Now show a live catch on any table in TPA. A nice dead-on-the-flipper one.

[Anonymous No.1663082]

Now posting Visual Pinball comparisons

[Anonymous No.1663085]

>>1663082
Woops

[Anonymous No.1663087]

>>1663068
pre-rendered 2D isn't as taxing?

Not sure about the file size of the tables, I haven't made one myself but tftc is 87.2MB for FP.

they claim to emulate the rom in a wrapper [kickstarter video] but with shit like who dunnit where they edited the reels.. who knows.

[Anonymous No.1663092]

[Anonymous No.1663097]

Someone in the last thread was looking to play this one...says it's for "1GB video cards"

[Anonymous No.1663135]

>>1663076
from what I'm seeing in slow motion vs the PAPA video... it's probably not possible with the table layout, the ball is hitting the middle of the flipper in TPA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdlZS-0SAaw

[Anonymous No.1663139]

>>1663135
It's a joke, Pinball Arcade physics can't live catch. Try Creature from the Black Lagoon, right flipper.

"This is the best machine to practice live catches on" -- Bowen Kerins, CFTBL Tutorial

[Anonymous No.1663140]

>>1663135
the only time I probably hit the ball as it was coming down [attempting a live catch] it just back handed it back through the orbit it came from.

[Anonymous No.1663141]

>>1663135
Also I've seen tournament players drain a ball by unexpectedly live catching on Madness and draining because they were expecting it to flip the ball. I've also live caught on a real Madness machine.

[Anonymous No.1663146]

>>1663135

[Anonymous No.1663153]

>>1663139
Yeah I tried T2 AFM WW STTNG CFTBL and MM.

[Anonymous No.1663164]

>>1663135
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYXTJNAJFy4

01:42 Bowen's first live catch on MM in part 1 of the tutorial.

[Anonymous No.1663183]

>>1663164
>>1663141
looks like live catching doesn't require the ball be behind the middle of the flipper. TPA would probably just back hand it where it came from like I said here >>1663140

[Anonymous No.1663187]

CFTBL is definitely good to practice live catches on because I scored 3 free games in a row on that sucker. I think the hologram was broken. Didn't nail any live catches that I remember.

[Anonymous No.1663213]

so whats the diff between a backhand shot and a live catch? just a smaller time window?
>seen PAPA events w/ the AFM locks done backhanded

[Anonymous No.1663231]

>>1663213
I guess there isn't much momentum when the ball is cradled so you can slap it backward.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmzsqZWhJbs
versus momentum cancellation of a live catch
>two moving objects against each other

[Anonymous No.1663236]

got a Jacks Open in the other room with a stuck 10s score reel & can't be bothered to tear it apart, so...

EM Gottliebs on Future Pinball tonight

[Anonymous No.1663282]

>>1663213
A backhand impacts the ball with the flipper as the flipper speeds toward its activated position.

A live catch impacts the ball with the flipper as the flipper hits its activated position, deadening the impact and causing the ball to stall where it is impacted

[Anonymous No.1663287]

[Anonymous No.1663613]

the pain continues >>1661673

[Anonymous No.1663628]

>>1663613
>>1661673
let the hatred flow through you

[Anonymous No.1663636]

>>1663628
Tables without center pins are the worst.

[Anonymous No.1663713]

>>1663636
you can raise the 'heat shield' for 12 seconds if you go through the middle.

but that doesn't matter anymore because my suffering is over
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlAnRlh413E

[Anonymous No.1665929]

bump

[Anonymous No.1666021]

[Anonymous No.1666231]

learning this table
>double 32m broadside goal
>muh anxiety
>did triple 32m broadside before I knew it was a goal

well at least I figured out you should go straight to multiball and do dem loops for sinking ships
>got two sets of ships this way
>5 should be cake when I git gud

[Anonymous No.1666269]

I remember playing the shit out of this one pinball game my family's old win95 computer. all i remember about it is that there was a woman in a very revealing outfit which changed colors and techno music.

[Anonymous No.1666289]

>>1666231
well that was quick.. and I can't read either all they want is a 32m shot but I didn't just aim for double broadside mode...
>broadside shot into instant multiball
>got a bunch of letters
>sunk a ship
>broadside shot again (2m) and got the replay [30?m]
>do the double broadside mode
>no interruptions because of the replay has already been earned
>only did one 32m shot and was confused why goal came up

[Anonymous No.1666402]

>>1666289
well I did collect 5 sets of letters by ball two but on ship 5 cannon loading.. I was cursed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8srmOCL6CBU

after watching it myself I should look into what all those 'extra ball' dialogs were all about, didn't earn any.

[Anonymous No.1666660]

>>1666402
and it's done
>amazing ball 1(s), 4 sunk on two [polly] with one [whirlpool] held
>two letters left to acquire
>next ball
>got the letters
>miss ship 5, 6 times over the next two balls

[Anonymous No.1667695]

What game has the best music, I want to Visualize it with Pinball

[Anonymous No.1668386]

only video mode left to do :\

[Anonymous No.1668478]

had a bit of fun after video mode [uncompleted]
>would only be #38 on the monthly board atm

[Anonymous No.1669393]

Melon's fullscreen Twilight Zone table isn't broken in Visual Pinball. Only problem is the realistic physics have plateaued my high score at the same level my real-life-machine score sits at. So long 4 billion.

[Anonymous No.1670917]

>>1668478
bah this video mode doesn't seem to have a pattern from the recordings I took of the dmd

[Anonymous No.1670931]

>1670917
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7prSY1MNTU
well shit I thought the extra ball was the end of video mode

[Anonymous No.1671414]

>>1670931

I remember when I first made it to the end of that video mode.

It was on Junk Yard. I was quite confused.

[Anonymous No.1672937]

Is standing on the stools for little kids tech? Then you can get switchable camera view in real life.

[Anonymous No.1673180]

>>1672937
You can get switchable camera view in real life by moving your damn head.

[Anonymous No.1673217]

>>1673180
>moving your damn head.
what this guy said.. you just need a webcam to track your face :3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89AnFISP7k4

[Anonymous No.1673220]

I'd like to know if I'd get more 'steps' with a real 360 controller.

[Anonymous No.1673229]

>>1673220
well crap maybe it's just my right analog stick that's fucked
>had controller since 98-99

[Anonymous No.1673249]

>>1673229
tried two other PS2 era controllers, same deal.. might be my software/driver doing limited steps on the right side by mistake

[Anonymous No.1673291]

>>1673217
>>1673180
Yeah I'll remember that when I want a top-down view and have grown to 10 feet in height. Faggot, play pinball once in your life you video game fuck.

[Anonymous No.1673298]

>>1673291
PAPA uses a webcam to get top down views for their displays... is it cheating to look at a TV?

[Anonymous No.1673305]

>>1673298
I should say camcorders, I think the E3 video was a webcam.

[Anonymous No.1673319]

>>1673291
I own four pinball machines. You don't need to look straight down on top of a machine.

[Anonymous No.1673334]

>>1673291
>play pinball once in your life you video game fuck.
I could but I got other priorities
>this thread wouldn't last a weekly visit on /vr/, 2hrs on /vg/ or 30 minutes on /v/
>stuck with us video game fucks

[Anonymous No.1673596]

that up nudgin while the ball is on the flipper certainly helps.. now if I could only shoot well.

[Anonymous No.1674153]

If an operator with 100+ pinball machines were to equip each with overhead camera, custom inputs, and a nudge mechanism that operated via inputs, would people pay to play REAL pinball games online?

[Anonymous No.1674157]

>>1673596
So glad I've moved onto Visual Pinball so I can just pulse the flipper when it's rolling off the tip.

[Anonymous No.1674462]

>>1674157
sounds like a good time.

[Anonymous No.1674923]

>>1673596
>double jackpot lit but no ramp shots
>double jackpot lit but no ramp shots
>multiple jackpots but no drop targets down
>double jackpot lit but no ramp shots
help me out duuuuuuude

[Anonymous No.1675025]

[Anonymous No.1675050]

[Anonymous No.1675078]

no new challenges or spare table files left in 1.27.2
so AceHigh Diner and HighRollerCasino still present >>1613294 >>1619143

[Anonymous No.1675141]

>>1675078
and here's the wizard goals
>saying no to drugs

[Anonymous No.1675164]

>66 drop targets
>over the whole game
it doesn't sound as bad as space shuttle but it is a Gottlieb table after all.

[Anonymous No.1675225]

>>1675164
It's a Premier table.

[Anonymous No.1675357]

>>1675225
leading the industry with the most boring and frustrating game play.

[Anonymous No.1675407]

>>1675357
And the cheapest license fees for FarSight to pay

[Anonymous No.1675418]

>>1675357
I disagree, there's quite a lot of Premiers that I like.

The point is that it is a "Gottleib" in name only. Premier bought the rights to the Gottlieb name in the mid 80s for brand recognition.

[Anonymous No.1675420]

damn, gotta stay in multiball.. preferably 3.

[Anonymous No.1675638]

not getting any further but I gotta admit the inlane roll over turns the kick back back on is.. very nice of them to include
>left target & T like to SDTM though

[Anonymous No.1675704]

oh and for those interested, these are the relevant things they edited since last patch so for those who play Twilight Zone speak up.

dunno whats diff about pinbot.

[Anonymous No.1675857]

>possible bug alert
if you get a letter of blockbuster then earn an extra ball from Draw you get the goal.

[Anonymous No.1676060]

>>1675704

Fast Lock / LITZ camera glitch status: Not fixed.

Game status: Still pointless to play.

[Anonymous No.1676849]

>>1676060
oh well, sorry for getting your hopes up.

[Anonymous No.1677172]

>my second game
>million plus
>super jackpot
>multiple ripoffs
>choke on the last ripoff redemption and not get the last super jackpot over 4 balls
it started off as an amazing game.. it ended at 83 million and my last score was 47? .. and I hit the flippers at the same time to get through the bonus... which went through the initial submission so it doesn't get recorded.

[Anonymous No.1677213]

>>1677172
>1 Ripley's letter
>allegedly playing for score

[Anonymous No.1677327]

>>1677213
my second game of the day and I didn't read all the rules, I was just going for the super jackpot.. got the million plus lit by chance and not going up the right ramp allowed me to do ripoff's so I got things done before ball 2
>was one super jackpot away from the frog one too
after going back to read what Atlantis requires.. yeah I'll have to git gud at all the little shots they want you to do.

the score just happened to be twice as much as my old PR

[Anonymous No.1677334]

>1677327
>got my first super jackpot only after it was lit for visiting all the continents
it started off lousy and I haven't read any guides to this table for scoring points

[Anonymous No.1677378]

>cant hold the left/ring flippers after ball drains
fuck you.

[Anonymous No.1677567]

You will never achieve Frog Frenzy

[Anonymous No.1677634]

>>1677567
honestly thought I had them all lit when I started recording
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFtQm9UM9kc
didn't notice the little 1m blinking when it was just 3 and 5 left.

[Anonymous No.1677764]

>ball 1
>double scoring and lite super jackpot
>get it
>fuck if I know what the hell happened
>ball 3
>2 ball multiball get three super jackpots and an add a ball
as long as I can get into multiball I can get them jackpots/super jackpots.

[Anonymous No.1677923]

>>1677764
Have you trod her antediluvian shores? There I've flipped with the other so-called gods of their society...the poet, the farmer, the magician...though gods they were. You will know...and hail

[Anonymous No.1678096]

>>1677567
>doing multiball
>the front bozo hole gets two balls
>only one comes out
>stay in jackpot mode with a single ball
>two super jackpots left
>eventually do get to frog frenzy and it goes fine
>lose the ball I'm playing with at 129M
>the table knows the ball is missing and TPA says the ball isn't stuck
>tilt it cuz I'm tired of waiting
>it just cycles over and over BALL MISSING
another score taken away from me but at least the goal is there

[Anonymous No.1678126]

>after reviewing the footage
>was 1 idol away from lighting ? too
is ? on the temple code, idol reward.. Atlantis?
>Game says only way to go to Atlantis is collecting R-I-P-L-E-Y-S

[Anonymous No.1678226]

>>1678126

No, just a random 7 digit score according to http://www.pinballnews.com/games/ripleys/index5.html

[Anonymous No.1678404]

>>1678096
Single ball multiball = DQ

[Anonymous No.1679482]

>>1678404
Disqualified? it's happened to me on Black Knight too going up the right ramp.
>this is probably why they don't do tourneys on PC
>they just wont admit all the bugs

[Anonymous No.1679937]

may i ask a question?, why are pinball games on the NES so damn bad?

[Anonymous No.1680080]

So I went for Atlantis and got it.. and kept playing for shits and giggles
>hit the left/right triggers
>goes to start screen like >>1677378
>hit start anyway
>it adds a player
>later on it adds another player
>still get to submit my score after player 2 and 3 drain
phew
>started recording after two trips around the world
>right after all the last super jackpot
>and my recording is still 90GB with 46m in length
I did it! lasted an hour on one table woo!

[Anonymous No.1680898]

>tfw I actually got to the sun special but I lose the ball and it isn't lit anymore

[Anonymous No.1681598]

>>1680898
>robbed of the sun special again
>so mad I reset the game I got the max bonus in and no longer have the goal

[Anonymous No.1681629]

>>1608063

The shooter spring is a bit weak, but other than that... mmmmm.

[Anonymous No.1681636]

>>1608063

I've got a Bally Revenge From Mars

[Anonymous No.1682657]

so whats left on here that you thought wasn't too bad?
>I hate big shot
>AFM video mode is bothersome
>I could 'cheat' lament in Bash but still need the special
>haven't tried the rest of these yet besides victory

[Anonymous No.1682818]

>>1682657

Out of those, I've done the following:

>White Water (tough one, took my full concentration in what must have been a 45 minute game)
>Cirqus (not too tough, but still hard)
>Monster Bash (getting MoR is tough as nails - also, I did it offline and it didn't fucking save god damnit shit fuck piss)
>Creature (man, FUCK Move Your Car, otherwise, not too tough)
>Theatre (just now did it, not too hard if you concentrate on the Grand Finale)

[Anonymous No.1683438]

>>1682818
well I'm sure if I stop zoning out during multiball I'll get that super jackpot, the first time I did move your car I got the 4th shot in and was like less than a second behind.. I didn't know it was started to begin with, second time I got it going had 5 seconds left
>those pop bumpers didn't want to let my ball go
I could see how irritating that could be

[Anonymous No.1683457]

>>1608063

Not a great pic, but I've got a few, with a Williams High Speed on the way.

[Anonymous No.1684156]

>>1682818
finished creature, I'll try Cirqus.. I've gotten to phase two of joining the circus a couple times before.

>doesn't like the outlane on cirqus or theater

[Anonymous No.1684162]

>>1683457
Hey, Prime. Sup.

[Anonymous No.1684328]

why Pinball games on the NES were all sucky?

[Anonymous No.1685805]

>>1656376
beautiful.

[Anonymous No.1685807]

>>1656510
Which table ?

[Anonymous No.1685850]

>>1685807
that was space shuttle
http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=2260

and I was concerned because the internet suggests the nudging is more like slamming when you're keyboard only. I see all these flipper tutorials and no tutorials on how to nudge and figured it wasn't possible

[Anonymous No.1685858]

>>1682818
well this seems easier to lite the special, I got mummy/drac lit and had werewolf started, went for the scoop and I guess multiple monsters going gets you a multiball mode [2 to 4 ball] (the monster mosh pit)

[Anonymous No.1685861]

>>1685858

No, shooting the center shot multiple times (six to be exact) lights Mosh Pit Multiball. It's great to have along and stack with Ball and Chain since multiballs stop timers.

[Anonymous No.1685929]

>>1685861
yeah I figured that out my next game. sadly my script isn't working for activating lament

[Anonymous No.1685949]

>>1685929

I thought I got the cheat to work on TPA. It was both flippers, left 11 times, right once, left 5 times, right once, left 6 times, right once AFAIK.

[Anonymous No.1685959]

>>1685929
>>1685949

Oh, right, it doesn't count if you use the cheat. Duh.

[Anonymous No.1685965]

>>1685949
I got the guy to say totally and the music to change ONCE but I've yet to hear it again.

I can do it manually if I shoot for the swamp man but it hasn't worked even then.

[Anonymous No.1685994]

[Anonymous No.1686000]

>>1685949
ah I didn't do both flippers

[Anonymous No.1686004]

>>1686000
still no goal but the forums say you do/dont get the goal after multiple attempts at it
>why can't I test all these platforms.jpg

[Anonymous No.1686014]

>>1686004
should have said still no lament/music change
>goes back to bed

[Anonymous No.1686253]

Well, that was a fucking game. Monsters of Rock accounted for like 50% of that score - that mode is ridiculous.

And I'm convinced the challenges are broken - I scored a Special like three times while I was playing, but it never registered that.

[Anonymous No.1686268]

>>1685850
Nice.
Playing it with Future Pinball ?

[Anonymous No.1686340]

>>1686253
I thought I've gotten it as well but I will admit that when I went after Pin*Bot I was going to get 2.5M and 1 million from the solar value at the same time...
>only get to 1.3m solar value before cashing in by accident
>you're allowed to build up to 5-5.9(?) from game to game like Black Roses jackpot
>no goal
>finish up game for 2.5m

[Anonymous No.1689134]

bump

[Anonymous No.1690514]

>>1674153
Network latency would probably kill playability there

[Anonymous No.1692187]

Got the controller working on Visual Pinball. Can't use those squishy shoulder buttons anymore but they were killing my shooting accuracy. Mushy response. Can't stage anymore though.

[Anonymous No.1693658]

>only got 9 patches
>waste lite next city on shit with less than miles to go
>AND miss the patch