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All this wasted potential.

>> No.1601174
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If only they had personalities...

>> No.1601198

>>1601168
If any game in history deserves a remake, this is high on the list. Very, very few games utilize multiple generations, and those that do don't do it too well. Only other ones I know that do it are Record of the Agarest War (which is average at best) and Romancing SaGa 2 (which remains in moonspeak).

It's very untapped.

>> No.1601258

>>1601198
Fire Emblem 4 does it and it's fantastic

>> No.1601263

>>1601198

There's also the not retro Venus & Braves (kind of) as well as the OreShika series. Neither have English translations though (yet)

>> No.1601574

>>1601198
>average at best
It's full on kusoge man

>> No.1601689

at least PS3 had good music and graphics

>> No.1601697

>>1601198
DQV does it too.

>> No.1601698

>>1601689
I have to disagree, the music was really bland and the monster designs (especially the animations) were absolute trash.

>>1601574
Eh, I liked the ideas it had but I didn't hate it.

>> No.1601706

>>1601689
>good music
I disagree.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7AbFYuOIaQ

>> No.1601716

Rhys kind of has a personality, as do a few of the waifus, especially the two brunettes. But otherwise, yeah, just a bunch of faces.

I really wanted to like the game, and ultimately, I think that if it were even fun to play, I would have. The half finished shit wouldn't even have bothered me if the dungeons were interesting, the bosses were challenging, and the ending good.

I liked it enough to play it, but not enough to play without a guide (I never used a guide for 2 or 4). The game actually has more cryptic bullshit than 2 does, as well.

>> No.1601720

Someone used to have a really long version of this on youtube. Unfortunately it was taken down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUr1syyYem0

Also, the "normal" battle music with the organ, that you will almost never, ever hear in the actual game, is good.

>> No.1601726

>>1601697
I was about to say that. When you get right down to it, DQ is pretty damn varied in its stories, more varied than given credit for.

>> No.1601738
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It's unbelievable the amount of artwork this game has, though. Is PS3 really that popular in Japan?
The Bastard! mangaka did like 75% of the whole charbook.

>> No.1601815

>>1601738
More like a handful of artists liked the game (it had waifu shit before it was cool to have that) and there's some fanart. Hardly "unbelievable" amounts of it.

>> No.1602254
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It still kind of blows my mind that the game technically has 7 protagonists. I only got Sean's ending.

>> No.1602261 [DELETED] 

>Final boss is just half a piece of artwork mirrored
>His fight animation is to wiggle his nose

Top quality production value.

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>>1602254
Best ending. Best protag.

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>Final boss is just half a piece of artwork mirrored
>His fight animation is to wiggle his nose

Top quality production value.

>> No.1602273
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>>1602261
PS3 battle animations are some hilarious shit. Static sprites would look far less embarrassing than this.

>> No.1602278

>>1601168
>the coolest looking characters have the worst stats

Every time.

>> No.1602283

>>1602269
Not to mention his badass overworld sprite

>> No.1602286

Wait what am I looking at here

>> No.1602291

>>1602283
Sean's sprite a shit.
Aron's sprite best sprite.

>> No.1602293

>>1602286
Ancient waifu game were waifus have less personality than girls from modern harem anime.

>> No.1602310

>>1601198
SaGa Frontier 2 has it's story stretch across three generations.

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>>1602273
Body-building, bro

>> No.1602331

>>1602268
Translation please?

>> No.1602341 [DELETED] 

>>1602331
Hong kong ching chong chink nip gook.

>> No.1603451

>giving two sisters the same name

>> No.1603471

I always hear PS3 get a lot of shit.
Is it worth a playthrough if you really liked the others?

>> No.1603475

>>1603471
Are you in that situation? Play it and find out for yourself. I'm going to bet that it becomes a chore quite quickly. There are far worse games out there, though. I should probably just copy-pasta my usual list of complaints, but to put it briefly: the game feels half-baked and unfinished. And it probably was, Sega put the B-team to work on it.

>> No.1603584

>>1603471
Every enemy poisons you, including the robots. All towns look identical with green grass and brown wood houses, even those in the arctic snowfields. The sheer laziness that went into this game is astounding, but thankfully it is not very long. Beat it once just to say you did the whole series.

>> No.1603692

>>1603584
>Every enemy poisons you
this is probably the biggest flaw and what makes the game so tedious. It wouldn't be so bad if anti would ever fucking work.

>> No.1603743

>>1603471
It's not a bad game. Just disappointing compared to the other games in the series. If you want an oldschool JRPG to play it's pretty fun. Awesome OST, good art, cool waifu marriage gimmick. Just make sure you have a stomach for frequent random battles.

>> No.1604269

Wasn't there a romhack version of this that fixed some of the broken features and made some items more useful?

I forget the details, but something tells me it exists.

>> No.1605008

It's too bad that character designer's site is no longer active because it had some stuff wasn't preserved by pscave.

>> No.1607509

>>1602254
Also his parents were second cousins.

>> No.1607541

>>1603692
It does work if you use the magic system to put "points" into it. Still tedious, but that is what you are supposed to do.

>> No.1607563

The game was a massive disappointment. On the third generation I had the guy with the black cape (I went with Lena just to be funny), went to Termina to grind a bit, did stuff, etc. The only useful magic was res and gires, everything else was unreliable. Melee hit harder anyway. I think the game tried pulling off too much that would have been better to save for current gen when they could have fleshed out better. Unfortunately, if they were to release a remake with 10x more content they'd probably make it a stupid handheld port.

>> No.1607575

>>1607541
Or buy a reasonable amount of antidotes so you don't have to. I usually had my healers stack gires or res, or if just one res since one guy could have been hit really hard before the mobs fell. Though at endgame you'll have a bunch anyway.

>> No.1607592

>>1607563
>melee hit harder
And never missed. They forgot to include a random number generator for misses.

>> No.1607597

>>1601168
Why do I have a feeling that Sean's scenario is canon?

>> No.1607614

>Melee always hits
>magic has a chance to fail, even curative magic
It's like I'm in topsy-turvy world

>> No.1607623
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>>1607597
I've read that Aron's ending might be the canon, since it's the only ending where Alisa 3 reaches Earth, and it's supposed to tie with PS2 most closely.

But I don't know, I'm not that familiar with PS3. Only played the game once and also went Sean.

>> No.1607667

>>1607623
Aron wouldn't make sense as canon (even though it's the best ending, I thought of it as Alisa III reaches Earth, informs them of Phantasy Star II events, they smarten up and PSII never happens) because it makes far more sense for Rhys to go with Maya. He was going to marry her and went on a quest to save her.

>> No.1607675

>>1607597
Because cutest gals.

>> No.1607705

>>1604269
Yes.

http://www.pscave.com/dow/hacks/

At the bottom, it;s called the Nial Edition.

>> No.1607720

>>1601168
I like how Crys looks more similar to Nial than Ayn. Makes sense since both Nial and Sari were Lena's children and protagonists seem to take after their mothers.

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>> No.1609486

>>1601168
As far as I'm concerned, there is no Phantasy Star 3. Sega skipped a number for some reason.

>> No.1611560

>tfw the only series who also used this system are terrible

Talking about Agarest here.

>> No.1612735

>>1602273
The sprites are well drawn, though. But drawing characters too detailed means they become impossible to animate properly.

Also, it may be that the game's sprites were drawn but the game was rushed out meaning proper animation went to shit.

Its sad given how brilliantly animated the original Phantasy Star was, and PSII had some neat animation even if there was no backgrounds.

>> No.1612741 [DELETED] 

>>1612735
>Its sad given how

*It's sad given how

>> No.1612749

>>1601168
I was going to play PS4, but now I might play them all starting from PS1 (I've heard it's tedious so I may skip it if it seems too bad)

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>>1609486
No they didn't.

>> No.1612757

>>1603584
Not to mention they put in a clause that outright tells you to reset the game if you get an escapipe and use it in the dungeon.

Instead of... you know, having whatshername show up in the town when you do that, giving you the items in the cell, and progressing the game? Fuck, I could do that in RPG Maker if I wanted and I'm shit at RPG Maker

>> No.1613413

So which ending did you get?