/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1596580]

Do you get the urge to murder hoarding resellers sometimes when you see shit like this?

[Anonymous No.1596583]

>>1596580
No, because the game is overrated.

[Anonymous No.1596597]

>>1596580
Why? They make the games more available to you. They do the hunting job and just get you the games you want. I don't quite get some of the anons here that are so against reseller scum but are always available to drive 60+ miles to get a $5 deal. That shit costs time and money as well.

[Anonymous No.1596605]

Does the saturn even have copy protection?
Burning dreamcast and sega cd games are a joke.

[Anonymous No.1596607]

>>1596597
>They do the hunting job and just get you the games you want.

These are the same types of people who clean the shelves when you're looking for something at a store, and then mark them up on Ebay.

Yeah...they're doing us a *favor* by inconveniencing us and charging us more money.

[Anonymous No.1596609]

>>1596605
Yes, it does. You either need to use a swap trick or a mod chip.

[Anonymous No.1596612]

>>1596580
Yes, I see people do this with Earthbound too. People trade/buy reasonably priced copies of games like this, then hoard them for some number of months until the price skyrockets...8-10 copies of a game like this out of circulation is pretty huge compared to how many people want it/how many are actually up for sale.

[Anonymous No.1596630]

>>1596607
>clean the shelves

You mean flea markets and yard sales? They're more available than you, so they buy more than you. You're not entitled to anything, so you have to beat them if you care enough not to buy from them.

[Anonymous No.1596632]

Whoever collected those copies had to spend a fortune doing it, so I don't see any reason to be pissed because it's not like anyone is being deprived or ripped off in the process. Unlike most "rare" games PDS really was underproduced so it was virtually impossible to hoard at retail price. The EBs in my area received a combined total of 5 copies, all of which went to different people who pre-ordered. Nobody got multiples and many people didn't even get the copies they pre-ordered.

What I'm trying to say is if you weren't first in line to begin with, you were fucked from day one. There's literally no reason to be butt flustered about it now. Easy for me to say because my pre-order did get filled.

[Anonymous No.1596642]

>>1596612
The difference is that Earthbound was cheap and abundant for a decade until the price got inflated by assholes. Panzer Dragoon Saga was immediately a $200 game on eBay the day it launched. Cheap copies never existed. You don't just find Saga at a fleamarket or goodwill. The fact one dude has 8 copies of it doesn't affect the price.

[Anonymous No.1596643]

>>1596630
I'm talking about products being swept up in general at stores upon initial release. Scalpers do this all the time.

[Anonymous No.1596647]

>>1596632
Found 2 copies on clearance at a local TrU back in the day for $20 each. Your experiences don't = everyone's.

[Anonymous No.1596650]

>yfw the photographer merely printed out covers and put them in large, Saturn-style clamshells

[Anonymous No.1596652]

>>1596642
This.

Earthbound isn't even rare, yet the place is inflated so much that people are starting to make repro carts of it. It's honestly sickening.

[Anonymous No.1596661]

>>1596597
>They make the games more available to you.

No they aren't. They're jacking up the games' values. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with making a profit, but resellers tend to go way beyond that gap. It's like going to an auto shop and getting a 200 or 300% markup on the price of parts.

[Anonymous No.1596670]

>>1596643
That doesn't seem very plausible though. What new modern games are worth more after release?

[Anonymous No.1596676]

>>1596670
The new Jojo's Bizarre Adventure game. The only US physical copies were made available as a pre-order.

Expect them to show up on Ebay for a hefty markup soon.

[Anonymous No.1596681]

>>1596676
I wasn't even aware it was getting a physical release.

[Anonymous No.1596693]

>>1596681
Now you see why the price is going to skyrocket.

[Anonymous No.1596743]

No, but I'm not a serious collector or anything. I'm happy as long as I have a way to play the game, and emulation often saves me on that.

[Anonymous No.1596764]

shits not in plastic so op should be safe

[Anonymous No.1596792]

>>1596630
>You're not entitled to anything, so you have to beat them if you care enough not to buy from them.

How you can beat them mr sunshine, when they even cheat

>going to people's boots before they open and put their stuff.

[Anonymous No.1597137]

>>1596647
>Your experiences don't = everyone's

That's not the point. The key part here is that your bargain bin experience was not the majority one or PDS wouldn't be selling for $350 right now.

[Anonymous No.1597167]

>>1596792
Cheat as well. Surely they're humans like you. Do they have superpowers?

[Anonymous No.1597214]

>>1597137
>What I'm trying to say is if you weren't first in line to begin with, you were fucked from day one.

This was the only statement I was refuting. For the majority, yes. Not for all.

[Anonymous No.1597218]

>>1597137
>$350
It's going for $700 at the cheapest

[Anonymous No.1597220]

>>1596580
Lel no
Be more jealous you're like the gamer faggots on /g/ whining about people buying graphic cards

[Anonymous No.1597301]

>>1597218

wat

[Anonymous No.1597313]

>>1596580
No
I don't have OCD nor autism
If someone wants to hoard a product, if they have the money and if it doesn't interfere with the quality of life of someone else (eg: hoarding safe drinking water) then they can do what they want

[Anonymous No.1597319]

>>1596580
Good thing you don't act on that urge to murder or you'd be in some real trouble. I guess it's not that hard for someone who's been able to valiantly resist the urge to get off their ass and find games some place that's not ebay.

[Anonymous No.1597432]

>>1597167

It's like you have no ethics or anything. This is a Batman situation. You can't be better than your enemy if you stoop to their level. Besides, going to garage sales before they open their doors to ask for video games bothers those people and makes you look like an asshole

[Anonymous No.1597445]

>>1596597
It would be nice if they didn't price the games so high. I love Castlevania Bloodlines but I ain't paying $80 for it.

[Anonymous No.1597449]

>>1596580

No, because I'm not a butthurt little bitch.

Deal with it.

[Anonymous No.1597472]

>>1597445

I bought Castlevania Bloodlines on eBay for $22 less than a month ago. Stop exaggerating and fear mongering.

[Anonymous No.1597476]

>>1597472
Well then I got shit luck because whenever I look it up CIB all the listings are between 70-80.

[Anonymous No.1597493]

>>1597432

Life isn't so black and white. Sorry to say, the universe just doesn't give a shit how noble or ignoble your actions are. In the totality of existence, you're nothing more than an insignificant speck - a transient ripple from a drop of water lost in the ocean that is eternity. What is your contribution to this species, even? How long will anyone remember you after you die? You're just another random human being among billions more. Add to that, we're probably one of thousands - if not millions - of sapient species in the universe, spread across billions of observable galaxies. Civilizations and species will come, and they will fall; and in the end, all the matter and energy in the universe will have stretched out so far that there will be no more stars, no more planets - nothing capable of sustaining life. Only a state of complete heat death for all eternity.

No, sir. The universe doesn't care about your constructs of morality and justice. Now, what were you saying about Batman morality?

[Anonymous No.1597515]

>>1596609
Game shark work?

[Anonymous No.1597580]

>>1597476
>Resellers/collectors are scum. They don't buy games to play them like me.
>Loose cart? Dear God no! I need CIB.

[Anonymous No.1597652]

>>1597445
buyer's dictate the price, not the sellers. you don't like the current price?, don't pay it.

[Anonymous No.1597694]

>>1597652
And maybe spread the word about these things. Bitching about it here isn't going to do anything because most people here already know not to buy EB at 300 bucks or whatever.

[Anonymous No.1597742]

>>1597580
To be fair, it did come in a plastic case, which looks infinitely better than a cart sitting on a shelf.

[Anonymous No.1597770]

>>1597580
>Buying games CIB means you don't play them too

I do both you dingus. I just generally prefer my Genesis games to come in the clamshell case they were packaged in.

[Anonymous No.1597812]

>>1597770
>Making up things no one ever said to draw attention away from being a crypto collector
Classy, dingus.

[Anonymous No.1597816]

I just don't understand the "multiple copy" type of hoarding.

Like, maybe holding onto a game until you get one in better condition or getting international versions, but not the desire to want 5+ of the exact same thing.
Pic related.

[Anonymous No.1597828]

>>1596597
>They make the games more available to you.

LOL
Is this what resellers actually believe?

[Anonymous No.1597829]

ITT: we learn how speculation works and why it's cancerous.

[Anonymous No.1597843]

>>1597829
Is there any way we can use that to our advantage? I've been trying to think of ways we could fuck with Earthbound's price.

[Anonymous No.1597853]

>>1597843
The amount of copies you'd have to buy, then immediately release at a deficit price all at once is astronomical, it's extremely difficult to do with an item that can no longer be produced. The only thing that could negatively affect a game's price is if, say, several thousand copies were found somewhere and put into circulation.

[Anonymous No.1597867]

>>1597816
>Skylander hoarding
Truly we have found the bottom of the barrel

[Anonymous No.1597880]

>mfw I emulate and therefore could give a fuck less who has how many pieces of plastic that are worthless to me

[Anonymous No.1597883]

>>1597867
You think that's bad?

[Anonymous No.1597929]

[Anonymous No.1597952]

>>1597883
That's actually reasonable when you realize that each of those cards is worth hundreds of dollars each. Those, unlike most toys, would be an actual investment.

[Anonymous No.1597980]

>>1597952
The price doesn't matter, it's taking a huge amount of a rare, collectible, and sought-after item out of circulation. Magic: the Gathering prices are much more dynamic when you throw strategic value into the mix, whereas video games are intrinsically useless, but the concept remains the same.

[Anonymous No.1597994]

>>1597445
I have a game for sale.
person A: "I'll give you $30 for it."
person B: "I'll give you $80 for it."
I'll sell it to person A because I believe prices on desirable things should be kept low.

[Anonymous No.1598015]

>>1597816
Me too. I never understood the hoarding of multiple copies of small green pieces of paper with pictures of presidents on them. We should just give everyone one and they should be happy with it.

>>1597843
You can't even orchestrate getting out of bed on a weekend to visit a flea market. Don't waste your time trying to think about any scheme more complicated.

>>1597952
So what? If someone here wants one and can't afford it that makes having more than one evil. Do you even socialism?

[Anonymous No.1598016]

>>1597883
That's Magic, though, it's a card game, card games are collectible by definition

I can't fathom Skylander collecting being anything more than an 8 year olds wet dream

[Anonymous No.1598020]

>>1598015
>Do you even socialism?
No because it's ridiculous and no one sane does it at today's energy costs
Do you even finite resources?

[Anonymous No.1598043]

>>1598016
They're toys, which people (children and adults) collect.
And they work in a video game that encourages having said collection.
That's not so strange when you think of that.

[Anonymous No.1598058]

>>1598016
It's a working synthesis of /toy/ and /v/. I can understand the appeal, but it just doesn't do it for me.

[Anonymous No.1598076]

>>1596597
>They make the games more available to you. They do the hunting job and just get you the games you want.

Horse shit.

Garage sales and thrift stores are not burial sites or shipwrecks. Anyone can find and browse them easily, and if resellers didn't clean them out for their parasitic operation while reasonable people were out working real jobs, the players and collectors would find the games just the same without being bled by a leach.

[Anonymous No.1598105]

>paying Abraham Resellerstein for a game you can play for free

This is your fault for not having the good sense of us emulationfags. Do you really have to make us endure your bitching about it every single day?

[Anonymous No.1598123]

>>1598015
hahaha, you do a good impression of a reseller scum, but its sad to think that some people might actually think this. A reseller defending hoarding, its more likely then you think. I always hated resellers who horde shit, mostly because the moment those things lose value, they'll rather destroy them, then sell them at a loss.

[Anonymous No.1598194]

>>1596597
All reseller scum does is reduce the supply and drive up the prices, the only way they "make games more available" is when their vidya sits in ebay limbo never to be bought or played because of an exorbitant buy-it-now price.
We don't want people hunting for us, either

[Anonymous No.1598210]

This. >>1598194

I'm gonna buy up all the dozens of copies of a game in my area (out of the thousands/millions produced worldwide.) And instead of selling them immediately for a quick buck, I'm going to sit on them and wait for prices to tick up on eBay! It can't fail.

[Anonymous No.1598214]

>>1598123
>The thought of several pieces of vidya going up in flames, because of some depraved sense of "if I can't sell it for what I want, nobody can"
We must never let that happen...

[Anonymous No.1598221]

>>1598210
Now you're thinking like a true reseller

[Anonymous No.1598240]

>>1597493
Wow, why even argue when you could just tell people how insignificant they are. Maybe the universe doesn't care about that guys morality, but other humans do and our world is pretty fucking big for a human.

[Anonymous No.1598275]

>>1598194
>Everybody is the worst possible example!

You're just as bad as them.

[Anonymous No.1598281]

>>1598214
I guarantee that as soon as retro games are no longer the latest fad, college dumpsters everywhere, not to mention the trashcans of resellers, are going to be full of cartridges. That'll be thousands of games lost, in one fell swoop

You can't save them. Nobody can.

[Anonymous No.1598282]

>>1597828
>LOL
They don't? Tell me more about how a guy from Australia could buy a game that some dude in the US was selling on his yard sale without resellers.

[Anonymous No.1598303]

>Buy SNES today
>Check prices on earthbound
>$150 jesus christ what the fuck
>Buy 7 other games instead for the same price

[Anonymous No.1598317]

>>1598303
Congrats?

[Anonymous No.1598329]

>>1598317
You completely missed the point of his post, nice work

[Anonymous No.1598348]

>>1598329
I did? How?

[Anonymous No.1598385]

>>1596580
2baten5me

[Anonymous No.1598393]

>>1597816

Oh hai

[Anonymous No.1598397]

>>1597843
just go on forums and make good points as to why it is a bad game if enough people do this the price should drop

[Anonymous No.1598402]

>>1598397

> Thinking that will actually work

Kek

You guys are beyond pathetic.

[Anonymous No.1598403]

>>1598402
He was joking.
Scabs will always undermine any such efforts.

[Anonymous No.1598428]

>>1598275

That's how markets work unless they're regulated. If the worst possible examples (the extreme hawkers) have the biggest gain, then others will adapt their ways in order to stay competitive or go out of business. Have that continue for a while, and there's a hawker at every single flea market and yard sale you can find, buying things up two days before the sale was supposed to start.

The only option is to give up or to refuse to play, but not enough people educate themselves enough to figure out that these games wouldn't be sold for that much if they weren't so stupid, so the whole thing continues until it eventually crashes and burns.

[Anonymous No.1598773]

>>1598123
Resellers didn't bury all those Atari carts

>>1598393
loose cart collecting pleb detected

[Anonymous No.1598780]

>>1598773
>pleb

Get out of here with that shit. You know what pit that belongs in.

[Anonymous No.1598789]

Hoarders are the reason so many retro games cost retarded amounts of $. Especially Mega Man hoarders.

[Anonymous No.1598792]

No.
If you cared so much about the game, you would have owned it by now.

[Anonymous No.1598808]

>>1596580
No. If they wanted to spend all that money in the first place why should I care.

[Anonymous No.1598861]

>>1598789
No, people paying those prices makes games cost that much.

[Anonymous No.1598896]

>>1598861
Exactly. I have a quite the collection of FF7 for playstation and PC. It was worth a bit but now it's not. Had nothing to do with people hoarding.

[Anonymous No.1598902]

>>1598385
Whoa, I didn't even realize those games were worth anything.

I have both Baten Kaitos and Origins. Funny thing is, I didn't even buy them until like 2008. And that was just because I wanted to play them and my GC backup loader wouldn't read the ISOs.

And at that time I think they were only $20-30 a piece.

[Anonymous No.1598913]

>>1598385
>El Señor de los Anillos

Oh si si

[Anonymous No.1598923]

>>1598385
get the fuck out lamecube

[Anonymous No.1598934]

Resellers provide liquidity.

They are quick to buy up the old games you don't want and quick to sell you the new games you did want.

If the only people in the market were collectors than there wouldn't as much selling because everyone would horde.

[Anonymous No.1598948]

>>1597493
>I am very smart, just look at all these words.

You sound like every 15 year old BBT fan ever.

[Anonymous No.1598949]

>>1597493
I can smell your fucking fedora from here.

[Anonymous No.1599015]

>>1598402
Not more pathetic than people whining about resellers

Go play games you damn /v/irgin crossboarders, you remind me of this one guy at a college class talking about how he never uses a bank because they're stealing his money

>>1598948
What did you expect from someone taking "Batman morality" seriously?

[Anonymous No.1599251]

>>1598934
Please see >>1598194
We neither need nor want middlemen

[Anonymous No.1599292]

>>1599251
It's a niche collector's market with a limited amount of goods, middlemen will always exist.

[Anonymous No.1599297]

>>1599251
But I do need resellers. How the fuck am I gonna be able to buy the games if I have no easy access to them?

[Anonymous No.1599372]

[Anonymous No.1599385]

>>1599372
I just don't get it, why that game?

[Anonymous No.1599389]

>>1599372
> it was listed at $0.99 and the bidders raised it to over $1200.00. I can only imagine the collector who bought it being extremely rich, extremely overweight, and paying servants to hose him with liquid chocolate as he plays his games.

[Anonymous No.1599392]

>>1599297
Simple: just do what most of /vr/ does and put forth the effort to hunt.
Despite how it seems nowadays, the deals ARE still out there, reseller scum aren't paying eBay prices for their stock.

[Anonymous No.1599409]

It's what happens in a society where the only reason to live is to pursue moniez

[Anonymous No.1599413]

>>1599385
Autism.

[Anonymous No.1599418]

>>1599372
>still charging 4 dollars shipping
Such jew.

[Anonymous No.1599442]

I'm glad the Japanese version of panzer dragoon saga is still affordable. The fact that Radiant Silvergun is still expensive after being on Xbox live is annoying as hell. The game isn't even rare.

[Anonymous No.1599443]

>>1599297

No you don't. That's just what they want you to believe. You stand just as much a chance as finding these games for fair prices at flea markets, yard sells, Goodwill, etc. Check out some of the "deals" threads we get on /vr/ sometime. People post various finds from second-hand stores or yard sales, and it's often stuff that resellers would charge an insane amount for.

[Anonymous No.1599451]

>>1599442
>Japanese version

I import a lot for this reason. Japanese resellers are usually pretty fair about their prices, and that's even considering they're shipping internationally. A good bit of my library consists of imports at this point, and it helps that I can read rudimentary Japanese. Plus a lot of these older games don't even use kanji.

So, I'd much rather give my money to honest Japanese resellers than greedy American ones. Through Japanese resellers, I can get the same games much cheaper, even when American resellers want $100+ for them.

[Anonymous No.1599453]

>>1599392
I don't think you get it. I live in a country where the few flea markets that exist don't even have an electronics section.
I can only get stuff from places like the equivalent of craigslist and ebay. Although those CG-like websites carry some good deals sometimes, the offer is limited. So without reseller scum I would never have the chance to grab a substantial percentage of my current collection.

[Anonymous No.1599481]

>>1599453

Which country is that? We're not all based in the U.S. here at /vr/.

If English is your second language, maybe you should consider learning some rudimentary Japanese as well, and importing your games from Japan instead of getting the NTSC-U or PAL versions. I'm not sure which one you're buying. NTSC-J resellers tend to be a lot more honest when it comes to their pricing.

A little conversational Japanese + kana isn't hard at all. Kanji is the only thing that will bite you in the ass, but thankfully many retro games are strictly kana.

[Anonymous No.1599504]

Forget the hoarding and reselling for a moment.
Why would anyone pay hundreds of dollars for a single video game?

[Anonymous No.1599634]

>>1599504
Disparity in demand vs. supply.
If a whole bunch of collectors want a game, and there are only few surviving copies of that game; the price of that game is inflated.

But in the case of Earthbound it's about hipster cred. And hipsters are the ones paying thousands of their parents dollars for Apple products.
Which is a shame. Despite playing on an emulator, it was one of my childhood defining games and I'd love to own a physical copy, but I can't justify the $200 Buy it Now prices on eBay.

[Anonymous No.1599648]

>>1599392
>most of /vr/
>effort
Does it really take a lot of effort to search prices on ebay and then bitch about it?

[Anonymous No.1599664]

>>1599418
>ignoring the fact that the shillbidders jack'd up the price to 1240 USD
>Such Considerate guy for making games available

[Anonymous No.1599675]

>>1599634
Im a big CT fan and 50 is even too much for me

I have Chronicles for the PSX but Id like a cartridge some day

[Anonymous No.1599704]

>>1597952
>worth hundreds of dollars each
try at least $1000 each
also thats only about 0.002% of all black lotus cards printed

[Anonymous No.1599754]

>>1597812
>Making up things no one ever said

Reread the guy's post I was responding to. He clearly implies that if you prefer your games to be CIB then you're a collector who never plays them. I like to play them but also buy them CIB if I can.

[Anonymous No.1600285]

>>1599754
>implies
You must be new here

[Anonymous No.1600628]

Threads like this are why I refuse to sell online.

[Anonymous No.1600640]

>>1599504
WE ONLY LIVE ONCE

[Anonymous No.1600721]

>>1599504
Probably for whatever the reason people do the same for comic books, coins, stamps, sports cards, etc.

[Anonymous No.1600874]

Hoarding is just one of the combinations to the retarded prices. It takes new blood who want it now (more money than sense) to fuck things up.

Then we have resellerage adding onto this, encouraging it. The prices don't even make any sense or follow any patterns. At times, it can only take one person to fuck up the market on one specific game.

Case and point, at one time every copy of magical chase jp was being bought up, just couldn't compete with the guy. Funny store to read up on at pcenginefx.

you know its a problem when you look up complete in box games and see multiples copies listed by the same fagger (usually twobrotherstworesellers or his alter ego cjmarc, sosofan, or whatever person it is nowadays). I see the same fucking complete in box games I saw a year and a half ago on there. It is ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.1600885]

>>1596670
Gamestops were regularly being cleaned out of Xenoblades for the express purpose of sitting on them for reselling later

[Anonymous No.1600946]

>>1596650
im going to do this sometime in the future and pretend to be a reseller to ruse the shit out of /vr/

[Anonymous No.1601398]

>>1597929
>Yes, I said 360 copies of DW

[Anonymous No.1601442]

>>1597829
Trust me. I know. I've watched the steady increase in the costs of world trading in coffee because of speculators 'investing' in coffee futures. It's gotten out of hand. I can't get a decent cup of coffee out anywhere anymore without spending at least $4. For a small. Because I'm a cheap and indignant person of integrity, I refuse to be given the shake down for a decent cuppajoe. I've not bought a cup in three years and instead brew it at home (11¢/cup v $4/cup? Yes please!).
:-(
Fuck speculation and futures.

[Anonymous No.1601543]

>>1601442
You watched the steady increase in prices and didn't get in on it? No wonder people like you hate people who are smarter than them.

[Anonymous No.1601585]

It's free market capitalism and it's glorious

[Anonymous No.1601598]

>>1601543
Go to /b/ with your snide behavior. You are not contributing to anything but the perversion of /vr/

[Anonymous No.1601625]

>>1601543
No but it can create a bubble. It reminds me of when China couldn't get enough of Bordeaux wines. They caused the crash of that market.

[Anonymous No.1601672]

I just didn't want to compete with the hoarders and those nerds with compulsive buying behaviors anymore. The U.S used game market is fucked. It is 100% speculation, part of the issue is that we don't have a good second hand store network. In Japan they have a lot of second hand/ used good stores. These stores more or less set the price of used games, most of these places do not use ebay or other online markets as a way to set prices. They set the price more or less in a flat way. So lets say there is a wall of NES/famicom games. All those games on that wall are 220 yen, none of them have boxes. Also in japan the more popular the game is the less you get for it back when you trade it in at the second hand store.

[Anonymous No.1601765]

>>1601672

The only consistent used games shops we have in the US that people look to is GameStop, which is quite possibly the worst thing I can think in terms of service and overall business practices. Shame.

[Anonymous No.1601902]

>>1601585
There's a big difference between free-market capitalism and the methods/ethics of these "pseudo-businessmen" resellers.

[Anonymous No.1601916]

>>1601902
Prole vermin trying to make an easy buck at the expense of their fellows rather than getting a real job. I know a reseller (not video games specifically), and he's just as unpleasant as you'd expect.

[Anonymous No.1601985]

>>1601672
I don't know where you've been but that is unfortunately not true anymore, at least not in Akiba. Super Potato buys up supply and sets prices in line with eBay just like American used game shops.

[Anonymous No.1602020]

>>1600628
What's the correlation? Is the thread gonna steal your money?
It's fine bro.

[Anonymous No.1602238]

>>1601902
>Lansing
I might just go hang out with that dude

[Anonymous No.1602282]

>>1601543
No, I didn't get in on it for ethical reasons. I'm a non-theist Quaker. My Yearly Meeting championed the concept of socially responsible investment (SRI) back in the 1700s. Futures investment are in stark contrast to SRI and therefore at odds with various ideals I and many other Friends hold. That's the particular reason I included the word 'integrity' in that post. That's one of the four 'Testimonies' of the Religious Society of Friends: the Testimony of Integrity.

I don't piss and moan about futures or resellers, per se, but I do lament what it does to others. The housing crises in the US in the early 2000s and the current economical downturn world wide are each a direct result of non-SRI speculation and futures investment.

[Anonymous No.1602549]

>xenogears black label
$1099 and going up

>Xenogears millennium with a shit ton of extras
$199

[Anonymous No.1602601]

>>1602549
>1099$ and going up

BAHAHAHA

http://www.amazon.com/Xenogears-PlayStation/dp/B000038IFX/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1399422084&sr=1-1&keywords=xenogears

[Anonymous No.1602608]

>>1602549
>$1099 and going up

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

http://www.amazon.com/Xenogears-PlayStation/dp/B000038IFX

[Anonymous No.1602619]

>>1601902
Resellers = scum

[Anonymous No.1602625]

>>1602549
literally what are you smokin mate

[Anonymous No.1602645]

>>1602608
>>1602625
Sorry not going up, but here's the listing

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/151275471083?lpid=82

[Anonymous No.1602682]

>>1602645
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/151275471083?lpid=82

just another case of someone who seems to think inclosing your game in a plastic coffin and smacking a sticker with a rating on it somehow increases the value of said game.

[Anonymous No.1602696]

>>1601985
>I don't know where you've been
Probably the same places I have that apparently you haven't

[Anonymous No.1602716]

>>1602020
The people is the correlation.

I'm not interested in selling anything I've repaired to people with this type of attitude.

They can have their retro price apocalypse fantasy, I'll just refurbish this genesis and sell it to the guy down the street for $10.