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Has anyone here ever made or bought an all-in-one AC adapter that will power a Genesis, Sega CD, and 32x all at the same time?

I love having all three consoles hooked up at once, as it gives me a lot of choices on a given night, but I'm sick of having to unplug all my other consoles every time I want to play a Sega game. I've seen a couple people online selling homemade cables that power all three, but they look kind of shady and/or expensive. I suppose I should just invest in a Sega CDX, but those are expensive as shit, and you still need another AC adapter for the 32x.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

>> No.1575037

Just get some of the 1' cord extensions and lay the warts on the floor... That's what I do. All my consoles are plugged in and I use a power distro box to toggle stuff when I want to play

>> No.1575036

Some powerbars are like 2 powerbars in 1, with a big separation in the middle and the sockets can rotate. Get that

>> No.1575045

>>1575036

I bought a power strip with sideways plugs that are widely spaced, and there STILL isn't enough room to fit two of these things in adjacent plugs. I have to sacrifice one in the middle. And there's no way I can fit all three of them on there.

>> No.1575048

Check this out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f__C_wDMmSw

>> No.1575056

>>1575048

Looks beyond my capabilities.

>> No.1575076

Found a site that claims to sell them.

http://retrogamecave.com/#/shop/4577155957/SEGA-TRIO-PRE-ORDER-SHIPS-IN-MAY-2014/5885731

$29 and it's only a pre-order.

>> No.1575089

>>1575076

Here's a review.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ6fOp7mouY

Seems legit.

>> No.1575294
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1575294

Those multi-system power bricks can screw up your consoles.
Besides, its a hell of a lot cheaper to just buy a second power strip, you can even daisy chain them.
Personally I've got an extension cord with three plugs on it (two on one side, one on the other) with three power strips. one's got all my sega consoles, one's got all my nintendo consoles, and the other powers everything else.
I am kinda worried about my wall looking like that scene in "a Christmas story" so pretty soon here I'll be picking up one of those swtich box things like you can use for a/v cables, except for power instead.

>> No.1575301

>>1575294

>Can screw up your consoles

Elaborate? Not disbelieving, just interested

>> No.1575315

>>1575301
Not him but it seems pretty straight forward to me that running your consoles on a jimmy-rigged PSU is far more likely to cause issues than using their normal power supply.

>> No.1575321

>>1575301
99% of all the generic power bricks for the SNES give it too much or too little power, causing distorted images on screen and potential damage in extreme instances.
Aka, your shits gonna look bad but it probably won't kill it. Still not a good idea though.
And its still cheaper to just buy a second power strip. I mean its not like its drawing any extra power. Well, as long as you're not leaving all your consoles on at the same time that is.

>> No.1575374

>>1575294
>advocating daisy-chaining

DON'T DO THAT.

>> No.1575406

>>1575374
why, unless the system is on its not drawing any power.

>> No.1575407

>>1575374
Daisy Chaining is fine so long as you do not use all the ports, at the same time, no?

>> No.1575419

Do NOT plug a Sega CD and a Genesis into the same DC adapter. That's how I blew up my model 1 Sega CD in 1997.

>> No.1575426

>>1575419

What? How did you manage to do that?

>> No.1575429

>>1575426
It was a power adapter that had multiple tips

>> No.1575437

>>1575406

That's not necessarily true.

>>1575407

And you know how your house is wired? You know exactly how much load you're drawing from that outlet? You're certain that the outlet isn't itself daisy-chained to another part of the system? If the answer to all of these questions is anything other than "Yes, of course, I know what I'm doing," then fucking DON'T plug a second extension in.

Jesus Christ, I thought they taught kids not to plug extension cords into other extension cords in elementary school.

>> No.1575439

Two adapters: one for CDX and one for 32X. To make it easier on your walls and power strips, buy (or make; surprisingly easy to do) short extension cords. This way, the huge plugs don't block up a metric fucktonne of space on the wall or strip or block other outlets.

>> No.1575445

You can get a digital multimeter for a couple dollars online. Even the cheapest ones are fine for checking the voltage on an AC adapter.

>> No.1575446

>>1575429

Well that was dumb of you. OP is talking about AC adapters that are purpose-built for handing all three consoles.

>> No.1575448

http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-PS4816-Outlet-Vertical/dp/B000051174/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1398565996&sr=8-10&keywords=tripp+lite

Buy it. Love it.

>> No.1575452

>>1575446
Yes, it was one of those. They're not meant for handling them all simultaneously and take it from me, Sega CDs are extremely sensitive to bad power sources.

>> No.1575458

>>1575452

Perhaps things have improved since 1997, friend.

>> No.1575459

>>1575448

>$43

Nah

>> No.1575468

>>1575458
You can risk your Sega CD if you want, but I have very serious doubts that a single inverter is capable of delivering consistent clean power to multiple DC devices simulraneously. You can try plugging it into the Genesis and the 32x at the same time then putting a multimeter on the third tip. I'm willing to bet there's a significant fluctuation in the amperage at least when the systems come on or go off.

>> No.1575469

>>1575448
When my family asked me what I needed for christmas, I asked for one of those.

I said I needed it in the garage. For garage things.

>> No.1575492

>>1575468

You could easily hack one together from a suitable high amperage switching mode power supply without any issues - provided the psu can actually output what it is rated for. I think someone posted a youtube link that details exactly that.

>> No.1575501

I just get conductive wire, jam it into my consoles power ports, and run them unshielded to my lightning rod.

One bolt of lightning is enough to keep them powered for 8 months.

>> No.1575528

>>1575492
Yeah why not use a 150 watt power supply to run 5 watts worth of hardware? Certainly not because a PSU is considerably larger than the three inverters it would be replacing combined.

>> No.1575538

>>1575437
>And you know how your house is wired
yes
>You know exactly how much load you're drawing from that outlet?
yes
>You're certain that the outlet isn't itself daisy-chained to another part of the system?
it is, all outlets are somehow daisy chained to another outlet, this goes for just about every house in the US.
> I thought they taught kids not to plug extension cords into other extension cords in elementary school.
No, because thats retarded.
If you've got three power strips hooked up with all the spots taken, then as long as not everything attached to the is turned on then it should be fine. Yes electronics constantly pull electricity. However the amount being taken when turned off is negligible in most instances.
If you're really worried about it, then you can have 1 power strip with multiple other strips coming off of it. If your genesis is on power strip #1, then you turn that strip on (via the switch on the strip itself), and all the others off. You're still drawing the same amount of power from that setup as you would from a single strip, since that's the only one receiving any power. How much electricity do you think a video game console and a TV use anyways?

>> No.1576021

if you are an adult, get a power conditioner. it'll have a ton of sockets and keep your voltage constant.

surge protectors can prevent damage from voltage spikes but running constant low voltage can cause buzzing, low processor speed, insufficient power to components and permanent damage to hardware.

a dim or flickering LED is usually a pretty good sign of low voltage or if you live in a place where the lights dim when you run the microwave

>> No.1576052

>>1575538
>No, because thats retarded.
Every lab I've worked in tells you "no daisy-chaining" on the first day.

>> No.1576063

>>1575076
Not too bad, considering the cheapest 9V 3A AC/DC wall brick at Digi-Key is $20 and then you need to wire the barrel jacks yourself.

>> No.1576071

>>1576052
Depending upon what you're doing, it can be a bad idea. Like if you're powering a whole bunch of shit at once
However for the average dedicated /vr/ setup, its fine.

>> No.1576073

>>1576063
>>1575076
This assumes that the "Trio" is actually capable of supplying 3A, as the specifications would indicate is required.

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1576078

>>1575025
This really happened.

>> No.1576089
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1576089

I advise against 3rd party adapters, especially for the Sega CD. There are many that will not supply enough power for the drive to spin.

A much better solution is to get cable extensions to plug into your surge protector, or to get a surge protector like the one pictured, they're actually fairly common nowadays.

>> No.1576183

I know a guy who has a modded Genesis with the 32X built in (only requires one AC adapter). Looks pretty neat, and means he only has to have one extra power cable for his Sega CD.

>> No.1576194

>>1576078
That thing is probably a collector's item by now.

>> No.1576232

Little known fact: don't turn on a Genesis if there are any unpowered addons attached. The addons will attempt and fail to power themselves through the base system, adding to a whole lot of power strain damaging everything slightly over time.

>> No.1576235

>>1576089
I find the sad faces hilarious.

>> No.1576248

If you live in Canada, click on this link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-bORJrMafo

I have this power strip. I didn't get it for $10 like this guy, but I got it for $20 a few months earlier (I don't mind paying the extra $10 if it means owning what I want sooner than later). I'm sure it's a safe bet that Canadian Tire puts these on sale periodically, so keep an eye on the flyers every week.

Sorry for shilling so hard, but this product is a godsend for anyone with too many consoles in their life.

>> No.1576272

>>1576248
Not the dude, but I have a powerstrip thing thats like 1.5m long with 12 outlets on it. I think its meant for like contractors or some shit, but its fucking excellent, I put it behind my entertainment unit, its never seen, and I can plug tons of shit into it NP.

>> No.1576298

>>1575294
These older PC switch boxes are perfect. It is what I use. Switched off, I've noticed zero power leak into other sockets, using a multimeter.
I literally just finished wiring my basement and the guy mentioning un-daisy-chained outlets is a lot misinformed about home electrical... My consoles are the second outlet on the breaker...in a long line of at least 10 more on a 20 amp fuse.
I also work in a laboratory, professionally. Lots of daisy chaining on certain equipment. CAP accredited. OSHA accredited.

>> No.1576413

Being somebody that has dealt with these sodding power bricks over the years I am glad that Nintendo had the common sense to have the brick part of it in the middle.

Some US power strips have rotatable sockets, UK ones don't so thanks to these bloody bricks I have yet to have the full Mega CD32 set up

I have to avoid daisy chaining at various events not due to possible power surge problems, but because it looks bad.

>> No.1576429
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1576429

>>1576413
You could always get something similar to this. It has sideways plugs, specifically made for someone who would have to use a lot of power bricks.

>> No.1576718
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1576718

I use one of these giant power strips meant for setups like pic related. It has 12 outputs, spaced out with ridiculous power bricks in mind, and they're all in use. It works really well for me.

>> No.1576732

>>1576718

that's a good idea never thought to use something like that. how's the surge protection? I'm assuming it's gotta be on par w/ a strip for media devices since that's obviously for industrial use.

>> No.1576762

>>1576194
I've been looking for years and never seen one for sale any where.

>> No.1578253

>>1576762

They hit eBay from time to time, generally a bit more expensive than they should be, though.

I don't know if I'd trust one to actually power my consoles at this point, but I'd love to find one someday.

>> No.1578591

>>1575025
I built an adapter that runs my MD+MGD+Floppy off any DC adapter that supplies enough power. It also works with the MD+CD. I don't have a 32X but it should handle all three. The adapter is made of ~$2 in parts and the 3A DC adapter I use with it cost me $7.
Also, there are so many kids ITT who don't know what they're talking about. Do some research of your own before taking urban legends and old wives tales as fact.

>> No.1580145

>>1576232
little known because it's totally wrong

the sega cd can be powered by the genesis only by internal modification. trust me, my dad works at nintendo

>> No.1580151

>>1576232
>The addons will attempt and fail to power themselves through the base system
No, they won't. Have a look at the schematics - the add-ons have switching transistors triggered by the Genesis, but won't actually draw power from it.

>>1576089
The Genesis and Sega CD each use an adapter rated for 10V 1.2A. So, a modern switched-mode supply rated for 10V 3A or something should handle it easily.

>>1580145
You can perform this modification, but you'll need an adapter powerful enough to run both consoles anyway. Might as well just modify a brick to have two plugs rather than fucking with your Sega CD.

>> No.1580158

Mark my words, if you send weird power into your Sega CD you'll be sorry!

>> No.1580163
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1580163

>>1580158
>weird power
It's 10V DC at like 1A, there's not much you can fuck up. I've got 3 Sega CD consoles (two Model 1 that I fixed and a Model 2 that always worked) and they're all fine with whatever spare supply I dig out of the bin.

>> No.1580172

>>1580163
You'll be fixing them again soon. I hope you can replace surface mount capacitors.

>> No.1580178

>>1580172
>You'll be fixing them again soon.
Why?

>I hope you can replace surface mount capacitors.
I can, but most of the capacitors in the power circuitry are just regular old cans. Leaky cans, at that - cap kits are essential.

>> No.1581089

I'd buy the hell out of like, 50 extension cords that are just 3 or 4 inches long

not the extending anything, just for a way to get the wall tumors that block 5 outlets out of the way

>> No.1581398

I just use a industrial16 plug powerstrip for mine.
Works really great especially since some systems wouldn't reach all the way to a smaller strip.

>> No.1581808

>>1575045
get an octopus cable.

>> No.1581839

I seem to recall reading that the 32X and CDX combo is prone to overheating and can create an electrical shock hazard.

>> No.1581867

>>1575076
Saw this thread in the catalog and came to see if anyone had posted this site. I just got an order in the mail I had placed for a TG16 ac adapter, AV cable, and an AC for my AES. Shipped quickly and haven't had any problems with them, will have to order a Trio when I pick up a CD and 32X someday.

>> No.1581870

>>1581867

Hm, thanks for the info. $29 seems a bit steep, though.

>> No.1581886

>>1581870
I think his prices are pretty fair if you don't already have the cords in the first place, a lot of people like to charge high prices on ebay for OEM power supplies for some of the more harder to find consoles

>> No.1583868

>>1581808
>octopus cable.
They aren't very conductive. Use a copper cable instead.

>> No.1584393

I'll say it again.
1ft extension cords. There are tons on amazon and eBay. Most on amazon are sold in sets of 5 or so. 12 gauge wire, ground plug. If you're using a power strip its perfect to get the warts onto the floor, neatly.

>> No.1584752

>>1584393

That doesn't help if you don't have enough space to plug them all in.

>> No.1585461

>>1584752
I've seen how to's online for internal modding a model 1 genesis to power the CD add-on. No 32x but it'll whittle you down to 2 wallywarts.

>> No.1585542

>>1581808
>>1583868
he meant power squid

which is more conductive than octopus cable, less suction cups too

>> No.1587494
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1587494

The solution to literally all of your problems.

>> No.1587582

squids all the way. never look back

>> No.1587645

Big black metal industrial power strips. Ten to twelve outlets, 4" apart. Chuck it back in the crevasse and let it do it's thang.

Add an uninterruptible power supply and you got it made.