/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1572425]

ITT the REAL hardest parts of a game

[Anonymous No.1572453]

I get nervous just looking at that pic.

[Anonymous No.1572460]

[Anonymous No.1572467]

And the Swamp one.

[Anonymous No.1572482]

fuck this

[Anonymous No.1572484]

>>1572425
Floor looks like Reeses Pieces.

[Anonymous No.1572490]

>>1572425
That part On the DS remake.

[Anonymous No.1572505]

>>1572490
The DS version is easier by far because the controls are easier for me than the original N64 controller

[Anonymous No.1572507]

>>1572484

Wow that's a cool observation, I won't see it in the same way again.

[Anonymous No.1572519]

>>1572505
I disagree, I found it easier to beat Mario 64 emulated, using a keyboard, than on the DS.

[Anonymous No.1572535]

>>1572519
>finishing Mario 64 100% with a keyboard that can't register too many buttons being pressed at the same time

[Anonymous No.1572540]

>>1572535
>using a keyboard that suffers from key rollover
>in twenty fucking fourteen

[Anonymous No.1572542]

>>1572540
Different guy, but I use the same keyboard I got in 1999.

I'M JUST SO FUCKING USED TO IT

YOU WOULDN'T ASK WILLIE NELSON TO GIVE UP TRIGGER, WOULD YOU

[Anonymous No.1572549]

>>1572542
Do you also still run Windows 2000?
Does your PC still use a Pentium 3 and a 3dfxGPU?

[Anonymous No.1572559]

>>1572549
>on /vr/
>not running Windows 95

[Anonymous No.1572560]

>>1572540
>shitty laptop from 2008
>expecting a good keyboard

Why would you think this was done on modern hardware?

[Anonymous No.1572565]

>>1572549
>comparing internal technical hardware and and OS to an input device.

You...you really just did that

[Anonymous No.1572579]

I actually think the hardest part of Mario 64 is getting 100 coins in Hazy Maze Cave. I don't know, I just really struggle with it. It's a large level and its pretty easy to fall in the boudler pit or get killed by them when you have to pass through them several times. You have to visit every single part of the level.

[Anonymous No.1572593]

>>1572579
getting the blue coin switch in the actual haze maze itself helps a lot

[Anonymous No.1572631]

>>1572579
Doesn't Hazy Maze Cave have loadsa coins? The hardest 100-coin star is actually probably in OP's example because there's so much area to traverse to get enough coins. Or maybe Rainbow Ride...

[Anonymous No.1572636]

>>1572631

Hardest is prob tick tock clock

IIRC LLL is actually not hard because you just ride the koopa shell to the whole level. Im not even sure you need to go in the volcano

[Anonymous No.1572639]

>>1572636
Nah I'm pretty sure the volcano is necessary. The thing about the koopa shell is if you crash, you tend to die.

[Anonymous No.1572643]

>>1572425
Just long jump.

[Anonymous No.1572663]

>>1572535
I am the person who made the "I am 30 and never played a FPS shooter thread"
I play emulated platformers on pc with a keyboard, I use the right hand on the arrows, and I use insert delete home end page up page down as buttons with the left hand.

I beat Mario 64 for the first time in 2008, on pc, with the keyboard, and I thought it was quite easy. Last year I finally bought a 3DS, bought a used Mario DS, and I had a harder time than in 2008 emulating it on the pc.

[Anonymous No.1573179]

Finding the Technodrome and actually beating the Technodrome in level 5 is a punch in a dick but surviving the last level inside the Technodrome especially that hallway of death full of those laser jetpack soldiers takes the cake.

in b4 kiddies start posting about the dam level because they saw AVGN bitching about it, it's NOT hard but only a minor annoyance.

[Anonymous No.1573471]

>>1573179
You need to almost sacrifice a turtle if you expect to pass the maze swiftly and without bullshit controller hiccups, but finding the fucking technodrome takes the cake cause it's fucking random. You could find it try one, or you could never fucking find it.

[Anonymous No.1573482]

It's either that, or the lvl 2 miniboss if you didn't steal the bow.
>>1572425
Easy as pie. 100 coins Rainbow Road is way, way more rage-inducing. Lethal Lava Land in general is pretty easy - very fast stars, even if you do die, you lose barely any time.

>>1572460
I... I've never beaten this.

[Anonymous No.1573519]

It's between Terra Tubes and the Clinger Winger level with this game, I'll go with the former as it's where most people (myself included) actually got stuck for years and before anyone says anything about Turbo Tunnel: Everyone and I do mean EVERYONE who actually played Battletoads when it came got past the Turbo Tunnel level and that includes people who weren't even that good with video games.

[Anonymous No.1573520]

>>1572482
That's an easy jump. Don't even bother killing the on the platform, just jump straight down, dodging hum, run forward, turn around and stab him.

[Anonymous No.1573545]

>>1572643
Or jump off the pole.
Just gave me a reason to make my first webm, oh boy (Is OBS good for local recording?)

[Anonymous No.1573550]

>>1572425
I played this just a couple days ago for the first time in about 9 years? Last time was on the DS. Forgot how brilliant the game is.

Rainbow Ride 100 coins is maddening though, and I hate Shifting Sand Land in general. The volcano was easy weirdly enough.

[Anonymous No.1573557]

>>1572505
I can't disagree more. The gimped touchscreen = analogue stick is bad.

[Anonymous No.1573573]

>>1572425
I swear to God, by the time I'm two thirds up the volcano I'm actually z-crawling on the floor to cross the platforms.

[i ain't tripfagging !!UCnc1JMdFaF No.1573574]

>>1573550
i'm going through the game stage by stage, only moving on if I need to get a cap (15 stars to get wing cap, then back to stage 1, etc.). I found lethal lava land to be simple. so far, the only bitch level has been Big Small island. fuck that level. I finished all the stars on it, and stopped there. I've yet to do the mushroom mountain stage or the snow stage on the second floor, or anything on the attic level.

I'll probably be continuing in a few minutes

[Anonymous No.1573576]

THIS
FUCKING
BATTLE

Luckily I had another save file outside the castle and i could grind before fighting this asshole again.
Then the game gets easier like cowaduty once you get Orlandu.

[Anonymous No.1573583]

>>1572460
I know this is the retro board and stuff, but that minigame is way more fun (and easy) on the 3DS remake, since you can use the motion sensor for aiming.

[Anonymous No.1573584]

>>1573574
Fuck me Tiny Huge Island I forgot about that already, that level can go fuck itself. Tall Tall Mountain and the snow level are pretty fun. Wet Dry World can be irritating but isn't too bad

[Anonymous No.1573585]

>>1573584
Getting the full coin count for that level is the real nut twister.

[Anonymous No.1573595]

>>1573585
I'm more than happy to pretend this doesn't exist and be happy with 120 stars.

While we're on it I never finished the DS version back in the day, are the extra 30 stars fun? I remember a lot more rabbits and that's about it.

[Anonymous No.1573605]

>>1573595
No; that game is a fucking irredeemable nightmare. It's beyond me how could Nintendo not realize that removing the analog control freaking BREAKS the game (and don't tell me somebody could actually play it through with the touch screen controls).

[Anonymous No.1573674]

>>1573605
What? The controls are definitely much worse, but it's not THAT bad by any means. The game is still certainly very playable, and I would say that aside from the controls it's an improvement over the original.

[Anonymous No.1573686]

>>1573674
The controls are half of the game in a platformer. That game is a complete travesty.

[Anonymous No.1573695]

>>1573686
The N64 version is much better entirely because of the controls, and I'm not denying that, I just think the DS remake is worth playing for all the differences and new content, and that it's not as bad as you make out.

[Anonymous No.1573696]

>>1573695

disagree, there's changes in art direction and physics that generally make it inferior to the original

the textures are more colorful and detailed but everything has this plastic look and doesn't feel as...organic as the original

most of the original content is lazy

[Anonymous No.1573697]

I want to cut off my own face.

>>1573482
GO FUCK YOURSELF WITH THAT LEVEL. STICK IT UP YOUR ASS SO I DONT HAVE TO KNOW IT'S THERE.

[Anonymous No.1573698]

and other small things like camera angles and such, the original game had better atmosphere and presentation

[Anonymous No.1573719]

A problem I have with the DS version is that it's too damn small. You don't get the same sense of immersion that you do playing on a big TV screen. Mario 64 wasn't made for a tiny handheld.

Oh yeah, and some of the "improved" character models don't mesh well with the environments and it looks unnatural.

[Anonymous No.1573736]

>>1573696
I think this image I just made sums up the difference pretty well.
64DS has better models and animations, much better effects made of 2D images like fire, textures are pixel-y rather than blurry, and textures tend to have much less contrast (probably because of the 64DS's low resolution, lack of blurring for textures, etc. which would make textures with high contrast 'shimmer' when somewhat far away) and as a result lighting probably had to be toned down to provide less contrast as well, so some stuff looks out of place.
I think it's what you'd call a mixed bag.
There are other changes, but they're more of a case by case thing. Dorrie is probably the best example of 64DS ruining the art-style.

[Anonymous No.1573746]

>>1572425

Fuck that star.

>>1572460

This only took me like 2 tries. I think I got lucky though.

>>1572482

6-3 made me quit this game.

>>1572540
>not using a Model M

[Anonymous No.1573748]

>>1573736
>still referring to texture filtering as 'blurring'

[Anonymous No.1573752]

>>1573748
Try and stop me.

[Anonymous No.1573754]

>>1573736
DS looks like shit and it controls like shit, so really it's just crap that shouldn't exist.

[Anonymous No.1573759]

>>1573754
Nah.

[Anonymous No.1573768]

>>1573736
>Dorrie
THE NIGHTMARES
THE NIGHTMAREEEES!

[Anonymous No.1573775]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNQjcfwNdXU

The n64 looks so much better.

[Anonymous No.1573782]

>>1573754

[Anonymous No.1573785]

I love Mario 64 and replay it all the time but the DS version is uncontrollable to me. It's impossible to just plain turn around and the acceleration is retarded. There's even a fucking flash game out there called super mario 63 or some shit that controls better.

[Anonymous No.1573810]

>mfw I started Mario 64 DS for the first time and you're forced to play as Yoshi for a while in the beginning

way to build excitement by playing as a lumbering yoshi

[Anonymous No.1573847]

>>1573810
Playing as the other characters is half the fun, brilliant way of reinventing the game. Then you realise Luigi is the best by far, those jumps almost break the game

Apparently it controls pretty well on the 3DS having an analogue stick back.

[Anonymous No.1573857]

Smartest part about the remake was ditching THIS FUCKING STUPID PALSY INDUCING FUCKERY GRRKRRRGH

[Anonymous No.1573872]

>>1573847
>Apparently it controls pretty well on the 3DS having an analogue stick back
I'm going to assume everyone is retarded and that's just a placebo effect, because it's the exact same digital controls, just with a circle pad instead of a d-pad. You can still only move in 8 directions, you still have to hold a button to run, and you still can't push the circle pad part way to careful control your speed.

[Anonymous No.1573873]

>>1573857
Not sure why they have to limit your watch laser ammo either. I've run out before and was forced to try to use my guns.

[Anonymous No.1573875]

>>1573872
Yeah it's just retards. If anything it controls worse because you have to contend with a vague deadzone before the digital input kicks in.

[Anonymous No.1573876]

>>1573857
Remake? There was no remake.

[Anonymous No.1573880]

>>1573576
That fight caused me to restart the game all over again

[Anonymous No.1573896]

>>1573857
>Remake
No such thing exists anon. stop lying to yourself

[Anonymous No.1573905]

>>1573880
Lemme guess. You only had one save file and saved while inside of the castle (point of no return)?

[Anonymous No.1573929]

>>1573857
>>1573876
>>1573896
There was this travesty

[Anonymous No.1573934]

>>1573929
PHOTOSHOPPED HABADASHERY.

[Anonymous No.1573969]

>>1573934
You can't hide from me forever /vr/

[Anonymous No.1573971]

>>1573929
That was hardly a remake.

[Anonymous No.1573975]

>>1573969
Still can't believe they shoved him in there just because he's the current Bond.

Anyway, it's still not a remake of the game--just a reinterpretation of the movie.

[Anonymous No.1573980]

>>1573971
That's why it was called a travesty. What really upset me about it was how it sold it's self by grabbing onto the origional and shouting "REMEMBER HOW MUCH FUN THIS WAS GUYS? guys?". Then it just turned into COD with Daniel Craig. Anyways I'm off topic.

One part of a game that really fucks me off is the claw boss from FFVII, just before you get the submarine (I can't remember his name so I couldn't find a screenshot). Picks up two of your party members then zaps the one that's left. fuck man.

[Anonymous No.1573992]

At least, when you're doing a 3-day run. Holy shit this part can be frustrating trying to get up quickly.

>>1572425
Red coins in Tall Tall Mountain were worse. If you miss jumping on those mushrooms you straight up die.

[Anonymous No.1573994]

>>1573605
playing mario 64ds on the 3ds allows you to play with analogue controls. some other games (rayman 2 i think is one) had this odd feature.

[Anonymous No.1573995]

>>1573994
No it doesn't. Please stop perpetuating this bullshit myth. The only analog is the awkward touchscreen control setup that's already available.

[Anonymous No.1573998]

>>1573995
You do realize that every 3DS has the circle pad right

[Anonymous No.1574001]

>>1573998
That doesn't transform the control into analog; it's still digital, except now you have to deal with a vague deadzone.

[Anonymous No.1574002]

>>1573998
That doesn't magically give the game analog controls.

[Anonymous No.1574006]

>>1572425
jumping three times/long-jumping sure is hard

jesus i'm not even good at vidya and have never had a problem with that

[Anonymous No.1574007]

>>1573857
Eh. While I did run out of laser ammo during my first time playing Train, I thought it actually fit really well. Time's running out, keep your cool and aim, or spray and die. That's exactly what an escape-from-explosion sequence should do.

No complaints.

[Anonymous No.1574152]

>>1573736
remember that emulator that can render DS graphics in HD?

why not render the Mario 64DS picture?.

[Anonymous No.1574156]

>>1574152
>emulator rendering handheld games in hd

You must be one of these faggots that stretches and saves .jpg pics as png thinking you're improving the quality.

[Anonymous No.1574205]

>>1574156
It's a fairly recent development, but you can render 3D stuff in DS games at a higher internal resolution.
http://imgur.com/a/0cKI2

[Anonymous No.1574218]

>>1573545
Nice.

[Anonymous No.1574227]

>>1574205
WHAT?
Oh man, you just made my year.

[Anonymous No.1574236]

>>1574205

which emulator?

[raquiel No.1574240]

>>1573880
>>1573905
Exact same thing happened to me.
Didn't start it again right away, lent the game to my friends, warning them about that part, and got really jealous when they beat the game before me

[Anonymous No.1574242]

>>1574156
Shut the fuck up idiot, there's a difference between up scaling an image and rendering in higher resolution.

[Anonymous No.1574245]

>>1574236
http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-Unofficial-Desmume-X432R-with-option-to-increase-internal-resolution

[Anonymous No.1574253]

>>1573576
I used the Holy glitch to get past him, the first time. Though, at the time, I didn't know it was a glitch. Strap on a Chameleon Robe and the Float ability, and Wiegraf can't use Lightning Stab or Earth Slash on you anymore.

[Anonymous No.1574256]

>>1574236
Try going to the link in his post dickless

[Anonymous No.1574262]

>>1574256

on your period?

[Anonymous No.1574526]

>>1573992
Snowhead...my least favourite place/dungeon in MM.

[Anonymous No.1574815]

>>1574001
>>1574002

These people are right, I beat Mario 64 DS for the first time on the 3DS and it controlls horrible, even with the analog.

[I ain't Tripfagging !!elPQYLc5BQA No.1576219]

>>1573585
how did you access this menu?

[Anonymous No.1576224]

>>1576219
file select screen under score IIRC

[Anonymous No.1576251]

>>1574156
>You must be one of these faggots that stretches and saves .jpg pics as png thinking you're improving the quality.
Actually, yes, you can improve fully 3D games by just upscaling the resolution. The 2D is what doesn't upscale at all.

If the game is completely real-time 3D, upscaling it (without going overboard, of course) does in fact improve the visuals in most cases.

[Anonymous No.1576253]

>>1573998
What these people are saying is, it still only detects 8 directions rather than the full range of real analog.

[Anonymous No.1576257]

>>1573736
The DS version is visually superior.

[Anonymous No.1576258]

>>1573585
Full coin count challenges, eh? Fuuuuuck, where were you when I was 12???

[Anonymous No.1576267]

>>1576257
Nope

[Anonymous No.1576308]

>>1576267
Your wrong.

You don't even have 3D coins.

Fucking ugly.

[Anonymous No.1576459]

>>1576267
this location is from a mod, right?

[Anonymous No.1576463]

>>1574205
Shit, I just finished Okamiden.

[Anonymous No.1576467]

>>1576267
>comparing a fanmade mod that probably won't work on a real console to an official game.

[Anonymous No.1576471]

>>1576267
>Nope

What are you on about?

[Anonymous No.1576474]

>>1576257
now view them both at their native resolutions on their respective consoles

[Anonymous No.1576492]

>>1573992
>Red coins in Tall Tall Mountain were worse

Tall Tall Mountain was a really shitty level though, Trying to Cannon shoot to the star on the far away mushroom was a retarded decision

nothing beats tick tock clock though. Hands down the worst level in SM64

[Anonymous No.1576497]

super mario world - wendy's castle

i didn't have much of a problem with the special or star worlds, but fuck that castle

[Anonymous No.1576586]

>>1576257
>comparing scaled up versions
The DS version's textures are pixellated as fuck.

[Anonymous No.1576605]

>>1576257
Go get your eyes checked, pal.

[Anonymous No.1576665]

I can beat Spyro 3 117% easy but this level is horrible. I finally learned a trick though: Go to a corner and just keep jabbing. He won't be close enough to hit back.

The yeti skateboard part is damning as well so I just use the super speed trick

[Anonymous No.1576870]

>>1576474
Okay.

[Anonymous No.1576873]

>>1576870

[Anonymous No.1576879]

>>1576873

[Anonymous No.1576884]

>>1576257
The DS has arguably clearer textures, but they look good in the distance such as the doors or wall decorations. Floor and close-uo textures look awfully pixelated. What the fuck, why do they have to use anti-aliasing for such simple, low color graphics? The 3D coins don't look good, but I'm also not a fan of the 2D ones, even if they look better.

[Anonymous No.1576915]

>>1576884
>Floor and close-uo textures look awfully pixelated.
This is
because the DS
has no
texture filtering.

When a
DS emulator
gets texture filtering
it will
look better.

[Anonymous No.1576921]

>>1576915

[Anonymous No.1576925]

I don't know how you were supposed to find this shit.

[Anonymous No.1576936]

>>1576873

The DS has better textures, but it looks blurrier as well. Why is this?

The N64 version just looks a lot sharper.

[Anonymous No.1576981]

>>1576925
Just played the game recently after forgetting 90% of it. I found it by luck, due to the crappy camera. I assume that's how everyone found it

[Anonymous No.1577284]

>The Skedar have taken hostages!
>Get up to the offices and save them!

[Anonymous No.1577578]

>>1576492

>Actually using the cannon

Just go to the top of the mountain and long jump, even if you miss there's that air there to catch you and bring you up.

[Anonymous No.1577610]

>>1576925
>>1576981
bob-ombs make a characteristic "twop-twop" walking sound when you're near them.

I found it by
>knowing I needed the cannon
>walking around the map listening for the sound of the walking bomb
>searching the area frantically once I hear it

[Anonymous No.1577658]

>>1577284
>Were outside, Joanna!
>Get the shields down and we can help you!

[Anonymous No.1580585]

>>1573857
>hold R
>aim with analog stick

gee that was hard

you babbys probably didn't use Solitaire control set up, which was the only way to play Goldeneye.

[Anonymous No.1580597]

>>1577658
>>1577284

My shit tops your shit. I don't have entire afternoons to figure this shit out anymore.

[Anonymous No.1580602]

>>1576870
>>1576873
>>1576879
>>1576915
>>1576921
i'll take the original version, thanks.

>inb4 opinions

[Anonymous No.1582147]

[Anonymous No.1582302]

>>1573179
Kaylei?

[Anonymous No.1582319]

[Anonymous No.1582339]

Fuck this.

[Anonymous No.1582365]

>>1582339
How casual do you have to be to find that hard?

[Anonymous No.1582368]

go ahead just open the door

[Anonymous No.1582374]

[Anonymous No.1582641]

>>1573583
The gyro worked better than I thought for aiming in OoT 3D.

Using the gyro in the not-retro Killzone Mercs is actually pretty effective as well.

>>1573595
I thought it was alright, but I hope you like holding down Y to run. Most of the new stars are distributed to existing stages, but they are usually either switch stars or a five silver stars hunt.

I do kind of miss how Mario could collect all the caps, as Luigi and Wario have them. At least you can use literally almost any power up anywhere provided there's a box and nearby caps, that and Luigi's broken as shit jumping abilities allow you to do all these crazy things you can't normally do in SM64, so it's easily more funner to dick around in. There's also an extra Dobson-like power up in Balloon Mario

The mini-games are fun as fuck at least. But you have to catch all the rabbits to get them all.

>>1577284
I thought trying to figure out where the auto-turrets were in Perfect Agent was harder especially with respawning enemies that hit fucking hard, but after a while it was mostly just trying to nail down a specific order while trying not to die

[Anonymous No.1583620]

>>1573975
I thought it had more to do with not being legally able to use Brosnan's likeness?

[Anonymous No.1583643]

>That's a nice magnet beam you got there, would be a shame if you ran out of energy...

[Anonymous No.1583660]

>>1573605
While it's definitely harder with no analog stick, you have to be a terrible player if it's that difficult for you. Even children can manage, christ

[Anonymous No.1583723]

>>1572484
i always liked the look of the floor texture but i could never really see it as molten rock or anything like that, it looks a bit like an autumn level texture (like the one in click clock woods in Banjo Kazooie IIRC)

i think some of the bee levels in mario galaxy had a similar looking floor that was actually leaves

[Anonymous No.1583738]

See, most of my friends cant get anywhere on this game on normal.

I play it and beat it on hard and ALWAYS lose 5+ continues at this part.

Im raging while i write this.

[Anonymous No.1583740]

>>1572425

If anyone says they beat this without at least 30 failed attempts, they're full of shit

[Anonymous No.1583743]

>>1572460
what? that's really easy though. all you have to do is get the timing down and you can hit the targets in the middle every time without barely having to aim (except for the targets on the turnarounds)

[Anonymous No.1583750]

how has nobody said this yet

[Anonymous No.1583775]

>>1583750
>tfw your mom beat this part when the game was new
>still have no clue how she did it

[Legion of Anon No.1583815]

>>1583740

Don't care if you think I'm full of shit or not, but did it without 30 failed attempts...by accident. Apparently, if you auto-pilot again immediately AFTER coming out of the initial auto-pilot, you're in a better position to save the captured Ralari. From there, it's cake.

[Anonymous No.1583885]

>>1583750
Apparently there's a trick, that Canary Mary will always beat your speed up until the last stretch or something so you're best saving your energy up until that point.

But even knowing that I've never beaten her, I tend to just leave her to rot in the cage in the mine.

[Anonymous No.1583913]

>>1582339

Is this podracing?

[Anonymous No.1583935]

Trouble with the trolley, eh?

[Anonymous No.1583948]

The hardest part of Mario 64 is that one part in Rainbow Ride, where you're riding the rug and you come across that spinning platform, and you have to jump over the planks. Im not explaining it well but its really difficult

[Anonymous No.1584284]

>>1583948
That carpet is slow as hell, did you play the whole game?

[Anonymous No.1584425]

Fucking Mario Party... if that counts.

[Anonymous No.1584448]

>>1573576
def hardest part, because everyone always saves right before and then you are stuck in the damn castle.

[Anonymous No.1584587]

[Anonymous No.1584964]

I wish I knew what Rubber Band AI was when I was a kid.

Fuck this thing.

[Anonymous No.1584998]

>>1583750
I don't remember ever having problems with her.

[Anonymous No.1585023]

>>1583740

>Owned the SNES version of this
>Could not beat it at all with the invulnerability glitch
>Always ended up getting downgraded to the 2nd class ship and a shitty ending without the code

I should play it again the normal way.

[Anonymous No.1585294]

>>1583738
This is the part of the game that always results in the end of my hard mode runs. There's just so much shit to dodge.

[Anonymous No.1585304]

>>1572425
>terry bogard in the land of reese's pieces.png

[Anonymous No.1585315]

>>1574205

What's up with the color in that picture? Why is it browner than the N64's colorful version?

I also prefer the original Bowser model rather than the one used on DS. It's probably not better, Bowser on the DS actually looks more like Bowser's classic design (although the modern version), but I like how iconic and characteristic the original 64 version is. I think he's creepier, too.
When I think of SM64, the first thing that comes to mind is the iconic Bowser boss fight, it was what was most advertised back in the day.

[Anonymous No.1585329]

>>1582319
Wasn't that part so hard they actually had to make it easier for the PS1 remake by making it so you didn't have to attack each individual orb?

[Anonymous No.1585363]

I think the main difference between n64 and ds is that the devs were absolutely fascinated and proud of the 3d environment in n64. Colors popped and enemies were large and bold to really emphasize their unique place within the overall structure. The DS mostly tones it down, simply because it's no longer new. A simple 3D platformer like sm64 isn't something to take much pride in today, even looking at it from the company's (as a whole) perspective

[Anonymous No.1585381]

>>1573905
I'm almost sure that's the first time muti-battle scenario in you find in the game.

The only point before where you're randomly asked to save your game is the switch from Chapter 1 to 2.

[Anonymous No.1585391]

>>1584587
>Not Soda Pop

[Anonymous No.1586636]

>>1585294

ive beaten it a few times on hard, and have SOMEHOW unlocked the red selene.

einhander is so hard its good.

[Anonymous No.1586654]

>>1583750
>i_put_my_controller_in_the_sewing_machine_to_beat_this.jpg

[Anonymous No.1586662]

>>1580597

Me and a friend made it to this boss, dicked around forever trying to figure it out. He died, left me to try to figure it out. Looked it up on the internet, said "That's not fun", and switched it off. Sometimes it just isn't worth it.

[Anonymous No.1586698]

>>1583750
Join the 12 Hz mashing master race.

[Anonymous No.1586705]

>>1583738
>>1585294
>>1586636

What about stage 5B (right before the times spaceship chase)? That shit is some bullet hell. Those barrels on platforms that flew upward spouting bullets everywhere were so infuriating.

[Anonymous No.1586761]

>>1586705

yeah, i agree that those platforms were a bitch, the water tunnels were more difficult.

and what about the BS secret in 5B? stupid python weapon? ugh

[Anonymous No.1586773]

>>1572484
DEEPEST LORE

[Anonymous No.1589074]

>>1576492
>nothing beats tick tock clock though. Hands down the worst level in SM64
You misspelled 'Best' (Tied with Lethal Lava Land), I think. Quick and exhilarating, difficult but not unfair. It's perfect.

[Anonymous No.1589127]

>>1576492
I'm not saying there is a bad level in SM64 but Tall Tall Mountain and Tick Tock Clock are less fun to me because of how relatively linear they are.

[Anonymous No.1589280]

>>1580597
Attack Ship was harder for me, in the first half you're starved for ammo and in the second it's so easy to fuck up and die instantly or accidentally shoot Elvis.

[Anonymous No.1589287]

>>1589280
Remember that you can knife or knock out the two Maians who aren't elvis and take their guns without repercussions.

[Anonymous No.1589290]

>>1589127

Hazy Maze Cave is pretty fuckin' bland and boring.

[Anonymous No.1589303]

>>1589290
Jolly Rogers Bay and Dire Dire Docks are up there for terribleness.

[Anonymous No.1589347]

>>1572425
I've been seeing this thread every time I've lurked around here. Why is this considered so hard? I found it easy...

[Anonymous No.1589474]

I remember one of the Mario Party games having a tug of war mini game. Shredded my palm on that joystick so many times.

[Limon !!4jXxw8NlrrU No.1589495]

>>1573482
It's not that hard.

[Anonymous No.1589951]

>>1584587
>>1585391
> Not when this asshole starts twisting around

[Anonymous No.1589958]

>>1573520
Actually, you can just jump off the platform and stab him him the air.

[Anonymous No.1589973]

>>1576492
Tick Tock Clock is one of the best worlds in the game you faget. Nothing but pure platforming, just the way Mario should be.

[Anonymous No.1590065]

>>1572631
It's not necessarily a difficult level but I believe Dire Dire Docks only has like 112 coins total, some of which you only have one chance to get from a blue coin switch.

[Anonymous No.1590078]

>>1573585

just getting the star, the water levels had the least total, i think 104 and 106

but fuck lethal lava land was the hardest, those fucking bullies in the volcano man

it's impossible to know where the coin will launch and it disappears on hitting the lava, i gave up

[Anonymous No.1590104]

[Anonymous No.1590146]

>>1572425
literally 100% artificial difficulty because of dysmal camera mechanics

[Anonymous No.1590159]

>>1590104

[Anonymous No.1590178]

[Anonymous No.1590191]

>>1590104

I seriously did not remember Whitney being so hard as a kid, and was always amused to hear so many people raging at her cow. Then a year ago I finally got around to playing SoulSilver and... Jesus, that demon just flinch-locked my Croconaw into oblivion. Again, and again DESPITE me having a 10 level advantage!!

I was to bewildered by such an outcome to even be mad...

[Anonymous No.1590195]

>>1583750

I swear all I had to do for this was mash, mash, and pause as soon as I got tired. Take a minute break, unpause and mash again. Repeat.

[Anonymous No.1590307]

>>1584425
the tug of war minigame never fucking works, all my controllers are properly functioning :(

[Anonymous No.1590310]

>>1590104
Sand Attack. If Rollout misses its counter gets reset.

[Anonymous No.1590320]

>>1576915
the water even looks better in the original though

[Anonymous No.1590448]

>>1590310
That or Dig, or paralysis/sleep/confusion, or a combination of those. Double Team isn't an option

>>1590191
Stomp is only 30% chance of flinch so you just got really unlucky. Her Miltank isn't that different in the remake except for a cure-status berry, and possibly better AI.

[Anonymous No.1590464]

>>1590104
>start off with Chikorita
>evolve it into Bayleef with the moves Poison Powder and Reflect

then you just wall it out with a bunch of potions

[Anonymous No.1590485]

>>1572425
>>1572460
>>1572467
>>1572482
>>1573519
>>1573992
>>1582147
>>1582339
>>1590178
I did these with an old keyboard just like >>1572535, so I disagree.

[Anonymous No.1590498]

>>1590485
you're so kaizo

[Anonymous No.1590540]

>>1590104
This was never hard and I never understood the obsession. Same with the train mission in GTA: San Andreas. I'm not even good at videogames either.

[Anonymous No.1590550]

>>1590540
>the train mission
I did it wrong all my life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2YWXMy9EE8

[Anonymous No.1590562]

naming the pokemon I catch

[Anonymous No.1590572]

There was one star in Mario 64 that always annoyed the shit out of me, and that was Pyramid Puzzle. Landing on those fucking tiny sqaures was a nightmare, and it's still the star I struggle with the most. Anyone have any tips to do that?

[Anonymous No.1590575]

>>1590065

Yeah but it's not really hard. You just have to get all the red coins so you do it on the same goal.

Also this thread is making me rage, everyone is saying how the levels are terrible when I think they're great. Different opinions I guess. But Jolly Roger and Hazy Maze are both god-tier.

[Kaminitro !nfThS9XpO6 No.1590617]

>>1583750
>>1583885
Well the trick is that she'll destroy you if you mash the button, it's better to take it slow at first, then around the end, mash like a motherfucker so her rubber banding average cant catch up to you.

[Anonymous No.1590691]

never understood the difficulty with 100 coins on rainbow ride. i think its rather easy. you dont even have to really ride the carpet at all, all the coins are in that back area with the platformers and triangles, and the red coin maze. i found the 100 coins for tick tock clock way more difficult

[Anonymous No.1590709]

>>1590146

How so? The camera is right behind you. I'm pretty sure you can use C-Left and C-Right to position it further, or press R to have it right behind you and you can even fix it in place. What would have made it any easier? Those platforms are intentionally made to be kind of tricky to cross over if you're not careful.

Honestly I don't think Mario 64's camera is as bad as people say. I can only recall maybe 3 instances where I actually felt it was a problem.

[Anonymous No.1590724]

>>1585391
soda pop is piss easy you just have no reflexes

the only hard punchout boss is mike

[Anonymous No.1591323]

>>1590709
>Honestly I don't think Mario 64's camera is as bad as people say. I can only recall maybe 3 instances where I actually felt it was a problem.
There's one instance where it's genuinely terrible - on the wooden ledge near the top of Tiny Huge Island. Everywhere else, it's fixed easily, and hardly a problem.

[Anonymous No.1591332]

>>1590724
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvzIb53Lcno&t=6m25s

It's all memorisation, even.

Except Mike.

[Anonymous No.1591367]

>>1591323
use the crawl, it ignores most steep slopes

[Anonymous No.1591393]

>>1591323

Huh? I don't remember that being a problem at all.
Here's where I remember it being problematic:

-Collecting red coins on tall tall mountain, that little maze next to the gophers. Pretty awkward angles.
-Some parts of Tick Tock Clock are bad because they require really precise jumps and some of the objects get in the way. In particular, to get 100 coins you pretty much have to stop time, which means you have to do a really precise wall jump to a higher platform.
-Maybe I'm wrong but jumping on the roof of Big Boo could be better, I dont remember if the R camera works in that instance. If it does it doesn't matter.
But even then this feels kind of negligible. Nothing is nearly as bad as that part in Mario Sunshine where you're behind the ferris wheel. I mean are there any parts in Mario 64 Im missing?

To be honest, I found the camera in Banjo Kazooie a lot worse. It doesn't seem to follow Banjo quite as well. I always found myself having to adjust the angle, far more than Mario 64.

[Anonymous No.1591410]

>>1591323
Replaying it recently the camera was a lot worse than I remember, at times it just wouldn't swing round to face the opposite direction for no reason. After a while I figured out its pretty free flowing and centres directly behind Mario. It swinging to do this while you're moving for precise jumps puts your own direction off causing you to fall.

I ended up using the close up camera for a lot of tighter situations, which is good so long as you don't want to turn.

[Anonymous No.1591669]

>>1591393
Doesn't BK have a button that sets the camera behind you?

[Anonymous No.1591678]

>>1591669
Yes

[Anonymous No.1591902]

Doing the medal on this level was always a huge pain in the ass.

Can't remember if I hated this one more, or Sector Z.

[Anonymous No.1592384]

>>1591902
I don't remember this level being too bad.

[Anonymous No.1593856]

GDI mission 8, in Slovakia. You can't see it from the picture, but to the southwest of the base, across the small bridge, is a civilian village, as well a hospital and Dr. Mobius, all of which need to be protected. If Dr. Mobius dies, or a certain number of civilians die or have their buildings destroyed, you fail. This is annoying enough with Nod constantly sending groups of light tanks and flamethrowers in helicopter transports to try and torch the village, but the real pisser is that there's a patch of Tiberium in the middle of the village, complete with a Blossom Tree so you cannot remove it permanently. What this means is that, because of the civilian AI, which will occasionally move a few spaces here and there in a random direction, you are always bound to lose because the civilians will constantly wander into the Tib field and die. You basically have to have godly micro and constantly have your units force fire on the Tiberium to keep it from spreading, while also defending the civilians, while also protecting your base, while also trying to destroy Nod's base.

The only relief is that this mission is option, as you can also select a different mission in place of this one (I believe the alternative has you repairing some damaged GDI base with no ConYard, and then destroying a Nod base, a much simpler objective).

The only real

[Anonymous No.1593859]

>>1593856
>The only real

whoops, weird posting mistake.

[Anonymous No.1595070]

>>1572425
>Not 100 coins Rainbow Ride

[Anonymous No.1595181]

>>1595070

I don't get why people find it so hard. What's so hard about it. Do you know you really don't need to ride the carpet at all? All the coins can be got in the red coin maze, on the spinning platforms, and the platforms in the back area near the triangles. It is very easy.

[Anonymous No.1595345]

>>1595181
>>1595070
Gah, that reminds me of Princess's Secret Slide, where you get another star if you beat it under 21 seconds. I completed the game when it came out, but only learned about the shortcut when I replayed the game five years ago.
I had tried for an hour without getting a better time than 21.7 or something. Not even close.
Then, I turned to youtube for an optimal path or whatever, and of course found a vid with the jump. To this day, I have no idea how I did that as a kid without the shortcut.

[Anonymous No.1595369]

>>1591902
>Sector Z
>suddenly everyone is useful and shooting enemies down
I remember spending a night or two trying to do that shit.

[Anonymous No.1595372]

>>1595345
You don't need the skip to do it fast enough. It's important to not bounce off the walls.

[Anonymous No.1595394]

>>1595372
Yeah, I never doubted that it's possible. it was more about how the fuck did I do this as a 10-year old when I don't come close at all now?

[Anonymous No.1595561]

>>1590485
If you used save states even once you are immediately disqualified.