Good lord. Is there ANY torrent that contains a solid version of every NES ROM that DOESN'T package them all in individual fucking zip files? I can sort through it later and get the ones I want, but I DON'T want to tediously unzip a thousand fucking zips. Whose idea was this shit?

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Anonymous Tue Apr 22 15:25:20 2014 No.1564547 [Reply] [Original]

Good lord. Is there ANY torrent that contains a solid version of every NES ROM that DOESN'T package them all in individual fucking zip files? I can sort through it later and get the ones I want, but I DON'T want to tediously unzip a thousand fucking zips. Whose idea was this shit?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 15:27:42 2014 No.1564552 >CTRL+A >7zip->Extract here. Wow, that was so tedious and awful, it took the whole day. Maybe not being completely incompetent would help, OP.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 15:29:15 2014 No.1564558 >>1564552 I don't have 7zip nor do I want to install it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 15:30:11 2014 No.1564560 >>1564558 Better unzip that attitude.

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 15:30:51 2014 No.1564561

The 7zip format allows dozens of versions of the same ROM to be included in one archive without repeating the redundant 95% of the image over and over again. Most emulators will load ZIPs but for whatever reason they don't support 7zips, so I'm assuming that's where your problem lies.

There's a tool specifically to use on GoidMerged GoodSets called UnGoodMerge. Once you learn to use it, it will streamline the process of pulling the rom versions you want out of sets and organizing them to your liking.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 15:31:33 2014 No.1564563 File: 9 KB, 247x252, 1355900605901.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1564558 Then use literally any good archiving solution. Fucking every good piece of archiving software supports mass extraction in some form. >>1564560 10/10

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 15:35:23 2014 No.1564569 >>1564547 You can do it all with one single line, for fuck's sake.

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 15:41:37 2014 No.1564581

>>1564552
No, no, nonononoNO. OP is right.

Every blasted retard who puts zips or rars inside torrents is breaking the spirit of sharing them while you use them. The retard way, to use the torrent you can't just use the files in the torrent: you have to unzip them, use space on another directory, keep track of the duplication and then you can begin to see the real files while being compelled to pass the retardedness on or kill the torrent because it's so fucking stupid to strip .5 MB off 500 MB because it's zipped HURRDURR.

The way to share anything in a torrent is uncompressed all the way. We all have fast connections and big disks. Before you cry me a river about "I live in the countryside, connect through a 56K modem and use a 1984 386SX", realize that with a compressed torrent you'll end up with twice the torrent size on your disk before you can use it. Torrents must carry everything uncompressed unless something is significantly benefitting from compression, like 1:1,000,000 ratio but the typical idiot zipping an exe for .05% gain is ludicrous.

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 15:44:45 2014 No.1564585

>>1564581
You're fucking retarded. The reason rom packs (in particular goodsets, at least) are zipped is because each rom has like 20 duplicates. So not having them zipped results in a much larger increase than having to make a copy of all the zips.

Plus virtually every fucking emulator supports loading files from archives anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 15:48:29 2014 No.1564595 >>1564547 you can use rom-jacket to build your library from these torrents. it unzips/unrars/un7z's

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 15:49:19 2014 No.1564596

>>1564585
I know ROMs are zipped. OP seems to be complaining about an innecessary zipping on top of that, as also assumed from the proposed solutions of "unzip them all in one go, duh". My point is that torrents should be usable as they are. If it's ROMs, of course it must be zips but I've seen to many programs or PDFs or whatever zipped for little gain.

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 15:50:29 2014 No.1564597

>>1564596
>OP seems to be complaining about an innecessary zipping on top of that, as also assumed from the proposed solutions of "unzip them all in one go, duh"
I think you just lack reading comprehension, op complained about "thousands of individual zips" and the solution provided was for unzipping many zips at once.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 15:50:30 2014 No.1564598 If you used an OS with a decent terminal, and knew how to use it, you could unzip all of them in just a few keystrokes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 15:51:53 2014 No.1564603 >>1564598 Even if he's using Windows it's relatively easy to mass-extract from the command line.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 15:53:49 2014 No.1564607 Any NES emulator worth its salt plays roms zipped.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 15:53:59 2014 No.1564609 >>1564603 people with windows often look at the dosbox in confusion.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 15:56:08 2014 No.1564612 >>1564597 Fair enough, I assumed OP knew his/her way around emulators/roms and lashed out at the unnecessary zipping in many other torrents... it happens way too often.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 15:57:46 2014 No.1564614 Nearly every emulator that doesn't suck horse cock supports opening zipped roms. You aren't supposed to unzip them you mongoloid.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 16:01:45 2014 No.1564616 >>1564614 This, unzipping roms is just wasting space All of your ROMs should be zipped

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 16:02:45 2014 No.1564618 >>1564614 nah man. there's no good reason to keep archives of nes roms zipped up. you couldn't save a single gigabyte.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 16:02:53 2014 No.1564620 Are there emulators that can`t open zip files? Even my android phone emulators do that, it`s a charm for people with storage problems.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 16:04:34 2014 No.1564623 >>1564618 there's no good reason to unzip them either

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 16:05:25 2014 No.1564624 >>1564618 >you couldn't save a single gigabyte. You probably could if you had a complete goodset.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 16:06:02 2014 No.1564626 >>1564623 a roms extension differentiates it which is useful for categorically organizing them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 16:07:13 2014 No.1564627 >>1564626 >Storing all your roms in a single directory instead of having them sorted into per-system directories in the first place What the fuck is wrong with you?

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 16:11:48 2014 No.1564630

>>1564627
>storing in a single directory
is that what i'm doing?
>>1564624
even a complete goodset doesn't save you a gigabyte.

There is no good reason to compress games other than storing them for archival purposes. the added complexity and (for large games) loading times is not worth the disk space.

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 16:15:09 2014 No.1564638

>>1564626
>a roms extension differentiates it which is useful for categorically organizing them.
You know what else works? categorically organizing them using folders
>>1564630
>the added complexity and (for large games) loading times is not worth the disk space.
>loading times
you what. compressing is absolutely worth it especially for Gameboy and N64 games which take up a large amount of unused space

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 16:24:24 2014 No.1564643

>>1564638
>you can save space.
you choose your battles.
>you can organize them and identify them yourself.
the source of game x is in question. now what? Not everyone wants ALL the nes games. They only want mario, or only want sonic.

just because you CAN doesn't mean you should.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 16:32:06 2014 No.1564647 >>1564547 >he can't automate his labour laughinggirls.webm

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 16:39:08 2014 No.1564661 >>1564547 Things like PowerShell, AppleScript, and Bash were invented to deal with such situations. Learn any of them and you'll save a lot of time in the future.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 16:51:17 2014 No.1564674 >>1564661 powershell is not user friendly. even vbscript is easier.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 16:52:45 2014 No.1564676 why the fuck do you give a shit about unzipping roms? pretty sure any decent emulator supports zipped roms.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 16:53:56 2014 No.1564678 >>1564581 no he isn't OP is a faggot as always

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 17:03:38 2014 No.1564692 >>1564558 WinRAR supports 7zip

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 17:04:28 2014 No.1564695 >>1564692 >Not even reading the post he was replying to

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 17:07:14 2014 No.1564696

>>1564547
Most cartridge console emulators will run games directly from zips, but ONLY if they are zipped individually. All you have to do is select all of the files and then tell winrar - or whatever archiver you use - to unpack everything to the same folder. You can zip everything back up into individual zips by selecting everything and telling your archiver to zip them up, but make sure to tick "add each file to separate archive" or its equivalent.

I hate when they're NOT in separate zips, because I have to do it myself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 17:08:15 2014 No.1564698 >>1564676 This. I know for a fact you don't need to extract NES roms to play them. OP is a fool.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 17:09:51 2014 No.1564703 https://ia801709.us.archive.org/zipview.php?zip=/21/items/No-Intro-Collection_2013-06-14/No-Intro-Collection_2013-06-14.zip Download the zips you want, then run them in an emulator that's not from the Stone Age. Now don't ever fucking complain again

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 17:10:01 2014 No.1564704 >>1564558 Winrar also does that, just right click and extract here.

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 17:10:33 2014 No.1564705

all of this is bullshit.
you save a miniscule amount of space for almost no benefit. Double zipped roms are for fucking assholes hoarding shit for the end of the earth or whatever.
>>1564581
this guy gets it.
Some people don't download everything in a torrent, because, you see, they actually understand how torrents work.
>>1564698
extra cpu cycles and disk usage.
there are different compression algorithims for ZIP not all of which every emulator supports.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 17:11:51 2014 No.1564709 >>1564705 >there are different compression algorithims for ZIP not all of which every emulator supports. Nobody uses anything that isn't DEFLATE with zip archives.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 17:13:16 2014 No.1564713 >>1564703 I'm always a little bit surprised that archive.org hosts this kind of thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 17:42:32 2014 No.1564763 >>1564713 They got an exception due to the volatility of digital media. http://archive.org/about/dmca.php

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 17:50:26 2014 No.1564794 >>1564581 This. I downloaded Metroid Prim Trilogy and thank heavens it was splitted into 9 part .RARs. Only if it's a fuck huge file you may .ZIP it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 17:58:29 2014 No.1564813 >>1564558 >I refuse to use good software for no reason Do you use ZSNES by chance?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 18:00:52 2014 No.1564816 >>1564813 i don't understand the reference.

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 18:05:56 2014 No.1564820

>>1564581
Let me give an example of how I see you and your posts.
>14 gigabyte torrent
>compressed makes it 8 gigabytes
>xfinity, one of the most popular isps, introduced 200 gigabyte monthly limit due to rising traffic for those with normally unlimited bandwidth
>"just pay extra money every time you go over the limit so that you can share uncompressed illegal media over the internet for free!!" ~ You
Downloads without compression take significantly longer, waste bandwidth, and take up more space. Most emulators support .zip files, and most archival programs support mass unarchival. No one will conform to your high and mighty expectations if it doesn't benefit them one bit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 18:13:51 2014 No.1564841 >>1564820 >14gb torrent with 800 roms only want a few dozen. >now it's 8gb but i gotta download the whole thing. >isp has bandwidth cap this is not a valid reason.

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 18:20:16 2014 No.1564854

>>1564841
>only want a few dozen
Then why are you seeking fullsets in the first place?

>but I gotta download the whole thing
Except you do not. OP is talking about many individually zipped files, and the complications to unzip the files.

>this is not a valid reason
Just because you don't pay bills, doesn't mean that is isn't a valid reason to compress files. People do other things beside helping ungrateful faggots through convenient downloads.

See, I see what you are talking about, but if people don't make the whole torrent into a single .zip file, then no one will fucking seed, and the torrent will die. You said it yourself, you would cherry pick a few dozen files and wouldn't pass on the baton. Torrents aren't catered to leechers pal.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 18:23:38 2014 No.1564863 >>1564854 >seeking fullsets often there is only one viable torrent that contains what is being sought >just because.... this is bullshit because the artificial caps are bullshit. >nobody will seed. wrong.

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 18:36:24 2014 No.1564896

>>1564863
>often there is only one viable torrent that contains what is being sought
Or, you can compile them yourself from some of the many romhost websites. If you don't like it, then tough shit.

>this is bullshit because the artificial caps are bullshit.
Are you fucking stupid? Do you even know what an ISP is? I don't pay myself when I go over some fucking cap, I sure as hell wouldn't limit my internet willingly either. My ISP does this, and when I make torrents that no one fucking seeds, I get throttled because I am the only seeder in a swarm, and barely scrape out the fucking monthly cap Comcast gives me.

>wrong
Oh really? Would you seed? Would you seed those ten files you cherry picked out of thousands? Do you think that even if you did, you would help any? If the file was all one zip, people would have already downloaded the whole file and feel much more willing to seed the file if they already have it. The creator of the torrent is the only person that understands just how fucking much effort goes into creating it, you don't appreciate that, not many people do from my experience, so it makes plenty of sense to make it into one large file, as more people seeding means less strain on a single source for the files.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 18:41:05 2014 No.1564904 >>1564896 >compile them yourself. >my isp is gouging me. >who would seed? you excuse your shitty behavior and content by contributing to them. go die in a fire.

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 18:44:56 2014 No.1564917

>>1564904
You don't seem to understand how torrents work. Just know that no one cares that you feel that way. The way things are currently being done benefits the society more than an ungrateful and self centered individual, and will continue to be used by me and others. Git fukd fagit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 18:45:26 2014 No.1564919 File: 25 KB, 342x342, 1389470974061.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >There are people who don't have their ROMs zipped

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 18:48:01 2014 No.1564927 The advantage of having games unzipped is actually that you can just double-click on the game that you want to play instead of having to boot up the emulator and then search for whatever game it is you want to play.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 18:48:59 2014 No.1564934 >>1564927 >ROMS that end in .bin good luck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 18:50:07 2014 No.1564939 >>1564927 Then unzip them? What is the problem? Compression doesn't only benefit the host, but also the peer. It saves your bandwidth and time too.

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 18:51:36 2014 No.1564945

>>1564917
>don't understand torrents
sure. ok.
>the way things are currenlty being done
i remember reading the newz
>benefits to society
you are talking to an actual dev with an actual interest in how roms are distributed. YOU,... you can just go suck on your isps cock some more.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:00:21 2014 No.1564972 >>1564945 >actual dev >does not know how to batch unzip Somehow, I doubt this

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:02:44 2014 No.1564978 >>1564972 i'll unzip my batch in your mouth.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:03:41 2014 No.1564980 Zip is fine since plenty of emulators support opening zips Rar is fucking bullshit for the exact same reason, made me so mad when I got rar'd fullsets

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:04:41 2014 No.1564984

You're all god damned retarded.

Goodsets and other trash DO have 10+ variations of every ROM. What I want is, you know, not fucking that. Because that's retarded. It is literally for retards.

I just want one torrent with ONE COPY of every god damn game

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:06:28 2014 No.1564994 >>1564984 you want no-intro sets.

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:07:52 2014 No.1565001

>>1564994
Every download says that they will in all likelihood not be compatible with emulators because they don't have headers.
Also, I can't find a decent torrent.

Whatever, I found this and it's working now
http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/4664819/NES_COMPLETE_%28U%29_%5B_%5D_ROMSET

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:07:52 2014 No.1565002
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>>1564984
>Goodsets and other trash DO have 10+ variations of every ROM.
>I just want one torrent with ONE COPY of every god damn game
>Not knowing how goodsets work
You can not be this retarded

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:10:22 2014 No.1565013 >OP complaints about a minor inconvenience >20+ rush in and jump his ass I figured /vr/ was more laid back compared to all the /pol/ infested boards on 4chan, but I guess we're slowly losing this one too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:11:39 2014 No.1565016 >>1564984 It's called No-Intro. If you want the T+ENGs, you get Maybe-Intro. They're both pretty easy to find.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:11:54 2014 No.1565019 >>1565013 i blame the jews.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:16:33 2014 No.1565042 >>1565013 the only thing we're slowly losing is idiots who don't know how to do basic things

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:17:57 2014 No.1565049 File: 217 KB, 648x864, fc92675_Juden.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1565019

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:19:02 2014 No.1565052

>>1565013
>OP complaints about a minor inconvenience in the OP post
>20+ rush in and jump his ass
No shit. OP's post is what everyone sees first. It doesn't help that it is the most retarded complaint I have ever heard which doesn't deserve its own thread with the most simple solution there can be, one that is native to the computer platform that he is probably running.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:29:01 2014 No.1565079 >>1564934 What the fuck uses .bin as a ROM extension nowadays?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:35:37 2014 No.1565093 >>1565079 Sega Genesis general.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:40:30 2014 No.1565108 Then tell them to stop being retarded and rename their ROMs. No-Intro uses .md, there's also .gen and a couple of others, all much more specific.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:41:08 2014 No.1565114 >>1565079 PS1?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:43:38 2014 No.1565126 Damn, you people sure know how to complicate something I was doing when I was 12. I had no idea people even bothered to unzip ROMs. I only do that for things that absolutely require the folder to be unzipped.

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:46:39 2014 No.1565136

I feel OP's pain. I downloaded a GB/C fullset and I was real happy it was only about 500mb. I wanted to make a ROM library with all the games to load on emulators conveniently.

Then I realized, every rom is a .7zip. Now of course, I should just unzip everything.

But then you get like 10 versions of a single ROM and those 500mb, extracted, are like 10gbs of repeated ROMS. HOLY SHIT. Most of them are bad dumps too, what's the point? You have b1, b2 etc, why would I play a fucking beta/bad dump?

So I deleted everything and I have all of the .7zips sitting there... Whenever I want to play a game, I have to unzip it, then delete the bad dumps/japanese roms or whatever and get the one single ROM I want. SHIT FUCKING SUCKS

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:58:19 2014 No.1565171 >>1564547 You're a bit dim aren't you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 20:00:43 2014 No.1565179 >>1564558 >>>/b/ >>>/v/

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 20:04:42 2014 No.1565190 File: 1.73 MB, 320x180, 1394508569827.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'll never understand the logic of wanting to download entire romsets. That's hoarder mentality. Why don't you just download the games you want to play?

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 20:11:34 2014 No.1565215

>>1565190
Because, here's the thing. I own an NES. I have the majority of all the "must play" games. There's no point in me individually downloading games like SMB1 and Castlevania 3 when I can literally go into my living room and play them with no effort.

I want to emulate games I don't own, and if I don't own it, chances are good I've also never played it. I want a large amount of games I have never played so I can see which ones are worth further investing time into.

Obviously, once I have all the ROMs, I can delete ones I don't give a shit about, like Ching Chong Majong 3 or whatever the fuck. (Why would anyone want to dump or preserve this trash is beyond me.)

But there ARE lost gems in the library, like a game I just played called Conquest of the Crystal Palace. Never played or heard of it before, and were it not in my large list of every game ever, I would never have played it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 20:12:21 2014 No.1565219 >>1565190 >Why don't you just download the games you want to play? It's more time-efficient to just download everything in the background up front. If I hear about a new game, it's a single command away.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 20:13:35 2014 No.1565226 >>1565215 This pretty much. I'm a GameBoy fag and I have an entire romset so I can play/try every game ever and find hidden gems.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 20:14:45 2014 No.1565228 >>1565215 >Conquest of the Crystal Palace Holy shit this game is awesome. I'm looking at some videos. Does it allow co-op?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 20:16:45 2014 No.1565234 File: 93 KB, 171x278, HAHAH.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1564581 Holy shit 8/10 made my laugh

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 20:20:53 2014 No.1565242 >>1564547 I'm afraid not OP. There's never been anyone so retarded on the internet that there's been a need for this. Until now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 20:25:12 2014 No.1565253 >>1565215 >(Why would anyone want to dump or preserve this trash is beyond me.) >It is not worth preserving unless I play it

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 20:26:40 2014 No.1565257

>>1564560
10/10 I laughed out loud reading on my phone

I agree with OP though it compression has it's time and place and it is NOT the 90s where everyone has dialup and a 10gb hardrive anymore.

It's obvious someone downloading an entire COLLECTION ffs isn't really putting saving a few mb on top of their priorities.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 20:26:42 2014 No.1565258 >>1564945 >sure. ok. >newz >actual dev Are you some faggot 15 year old who's been raised on Garry's Mod or something? Fuck off you pseudo-intellectual shitstain Just go to CoolRom if you only want a few dozen roms

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 20:31:47 2014 No.1565283 >>1564813 hey I used ZSNES back then it was the sex screw you

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 20:32:36 2014 No.1565287 >>1564558 tough luck bra

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 20:35:42 2014 No.1565294 >>1564596 archives do integrity checks on their contents when you extract them (assuming you use software that's not braindead), people tend to be too lazy/clueless to use sigs on their own.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 21:08:12 2014 No.1565385 >>1565190 >hoarder mentality hey I don't tell you how to live your life I want entire libraries deal with it

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 21:10:48 2014 No.1565391 >>1565257 It's insanity to say everyone to handle a 580MB bundle instead of a 160MB one just because some twit can't handle a ROM extraction tool.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 21:12:49 2014 No.1565402 >>1565385 >responding to known shitbait Do not continue posting until you learn to control yourself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 21:41:47 2014 No.1565487 File: 147 KB, 391x517, 1395838869156.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >theres an archive with the entire nes library packaged anybody have that link? i've only ever downloaded the entire 2600 library

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 21:55:53 2014 No.1565520 >>1565402 I wasn't shitbaiting, I genuinely wanted to hear some reasons for this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 22:13:34 2014 No.1565576 >>1565215 >doesn't play Ching Chong Majong 3 there's a reason they made 3 of them. >>1565258 hey now. no need to be upset. please refrain from shilling these malware sites.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 22:37:00 2014 No.1565668 >>1565228 I have no idea, I only played it alone for like an hour. There's an implied dog partner character, but I can't figure out how to summon him. I haven't looked into it much. Plays wonderfully though, looks great, kickass music.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 00:29:35 2014 No.1565902 >>1564547 >not just downloading the ROMs you want, when you want them

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 00:38:51 2014 No.1565921 File: 16 KB, 400x291, 1264341678996.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1564560 Whoever said /vr/ doesn't have a sense of humor?

Anonymous Wed Apr 23 01:09:39 2014 No.1565958

>Whose idea was this shit?

Ten years ago, we were lucky if we could get a few hundred kb/sec down. Up was usually the speed of dial up, so about 56kb/sec.

When people began to collect the roms into torrents, they took this into account. They zipped them, because a few megabytes could make or break an afternoon.

On an unrelated tangent, this is also why the image culture of 4chan died. No one had to look at images to entertain themselves on the internet when they could watch videos.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 01:11:49 2014 No.1565963 >>1565958 >10 years ago >still using dial up What? World of Warcraft will be ten years old this year.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 01:20:22 2014 No.1565969 >>1565963 I said UP, as in uploading. Even with broadband back then, you couldn't get much better then 75kb/sec.

Anonymous Wed Apr 23 01:23:23 2014 No.1565974

some emulators can read roms inside zip files, and some emulators ONLY read roms inside zip files. MAME is a good example of that, though not the only one. I think my gameboy and snes emulators have the option of playing compressed roms, not sure which, but I know something I have does it [that isn't mame].

Anonymous Wed Apr 23 01:30:34 2014 No.1565989

>>1565974
>only read roms inside zips
wrong. it will read the actual roms inside directories with identified names.

the truth is that uncompressed roms are superior. some of these sites inject all kinds of crap into their roms like .nfos and .html files and even subdirectories. this can be problematic.
compressed roms do not show the actual extension which is often good for identifying the dump source.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 01:33:05 2014 No.1565992 >>1565989 I'm fairly certain there's at least one emulator out there that can only read compressed files. I dont know what it is, or why its like that, but someone had to be retarded enough to try that.

Anonymous Wed Apr 23 01:44:14 2014 No.1566013

Dear morons,

99% of emulators (ie everything but ootake and autismsnes) can play zipped ROMs directly, as long as there is only one ROM in the zip archive. This is the case with all No-Intro sets, which are the ones you want anyway. They do this because compressing the ROMs in separate archives saves a significant amount of space and bandwidth while being exactly as usable as uncompressed ROMs. Fucking try it, I guarantee you NEStopia will load your stupid ROMs on the first try.

As an aside, maybe if you would spend 10 seconds fucking GOOGLING IT, you could have figured this out without needing to bother all of us. Stop being so goddamned lazy, expecting us to solve your problems, and bitching about things you don't even understand like a twat.

Sincerely,
Anonymous.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 01:48:32 2014 No.1566021 On Mac or Linux: $ for i in *.zip; do unzip "$i" && rm "$i"; done On Windows: lol, Windows. Anyways, there's plenty of complete NES bundles that don't contain zips.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 01:48:48 2014 No.1566025 >>1566013 You have no useful information in your post and do not address the pertinent issues and concerns of people in this thread. we do not need your help and your input is not needed. please leave the thread and promptly kill yourself. thank you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 01:52:05 2014 No.1566030 >>1566013 >No-Intro sets, which are the ones you want anyway Except when they're not. I play a lot of translated and bugfixed ROMs for instance.

Anonymous Wed Apr 23 01:55:31 2014 No.1566041

>>1566025
You are a moron that cannot read and/or a troll. Please stop shitting up /vr/.

>>1566030
Please don't tell me you use Goodsets, the ones that include 50 versions of every ROM including fan translations into every language, romhacks, and every single incorrect dump made in the past 20 years of ROM dumping, all mixed into the same archive.

With No-Intro, it's
>download patch
>unzip the clean rom
>apply patch to rom
>play the game
wow that was fucking hard

or for regular games it's just
>open the fucking rom
i'm blowing my own mind here

If you use Goodsets you have no one to blame but yourself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 02:00:15 2014 No.1566060 >>1566041 did you request a script on the emugen thread requesting that all dups (roms w/o a [!] be deleted? Because I answered that post with a script.

Anonymous Wed Apr 23 02:05:50 2014 No.1566074

>>1566041
> Please don't tell me you use Goodsets, the ones that include 50 versions of every ROM including fan translations into every language, romhacks, and every single incorrect dump made in the past 20 years of ROM dumping, all mixed into the same archive.
You bet your sweet ass I do. Got versions for every country too.

>With No-Intro, it's
>>download patch
>>unzip the clean rom
>>apply patch to rom
>>play the game
>wow that was fucking hard

What, that sure does beat my method of
>point
>click

Your ingenuity is why they pay you the big bucks, innit?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 02:09:21 2014 No.1566082 Fuck torrenting packs of shit. Learn some quality control.

Anonymous Wed Apr 23 02:19:38 2014 No.1566110

>>1566060
No, I haven't used Goodsets for nearly a decade, because they're pointless. Why would I want to do that when I could just download a No-Intro set?

>>1566074
Because archiving the original games and archiving every stupid SMW romhack ever shat out are different goals. When I update my No-Intro sets once every few years, I get a small handful of new games and fixes. If you do the same with Goodsets, you get a whole bunch of superfluous shit that nobody cares about, and you have to redownload every other Game.zip now contains 10 extra rom hacks, or even worse, you're a fucking moron that repeatedly downloads Goodset.7z and you have to download the whole thing.

I think it's completely stupid that you'd use their shitty, outdated, bloated sets just because you're too lazy to occasionally download an IPS, but if that's what floats your boat, fine. If you'd rather rely on a central authority for getting new translations and have to deal with the lag between the release and the inclusion in the Goodset, whatever, be an idiot. Just don't come here and bitch about how much you hate zip archives when you're causing your own problem.

Anonymous Wed Apr 23 02:46:16 2014 No.1566161

>>1566013
The No-Intro I have is 7zip and has multiple ROMs per archive what are you talking about?

>>1566082
I assume you're talking about game quality? Because for dump quality the best sources are torrents, not ROM sites. That especially applies to CD-based systems and MAME.

Anonymous Wed Apr 23 02:56:53 2014 No.1566186

>>1566161
>The No-Intro I have is 7zip and has multiple ROMs per archive what are you talking about?
Wow what? Where did you get it from? They NEVER did that in the past, everyone agreed it was bad for usability. I'm a bit out of the loop since UG died. Do they embed all the ROMs in one 7z, or is it like Goodsets (ie one 7z for all the Super Mario Bros. versions)? I sincerely hope you just got a poorly repackaged set and this isn't the new standard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 03:23:21 2014 No.1566216 Am I to understand that there's a better emu for SNES than ZSNES? Aside from the derpy GUI wtf is wrong with it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 03:37:09 2014 No.1566230 File: 35 KB, 150x150, shirou.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1566216 Is this really the kind of person that browses /vr/? Jesus christ, even /v/ knows more about this shit than you do.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 03:49:44 2014 No.1566248 >>1566216 don't listen to them zsnes is still great and a lot of great romhacks were designed for it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 03:51:57 2014 No.1566251 >>1566230 Judging by your lack of an answer, it seems like I know more about it than you. I've been using ZSNES for years without a hitch.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 04:15:44 2014 No.1566279 >>1566216 >guaranteed replies: /vr/ edition

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 04:41:59 2014 No.1566306 >>1566186 I wasn't aware that No-Intro actually did ROM distribution, only a database. Regardless, it's the NES and SNES ones on TPB (FGC Super Nintendo Entertainment System ROMs) and it's organized like Goodsets. So what's the problem?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 05:22:01 2014 No.1566348 File: 15 KB, 374x250, 1313684588753.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1564560

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 05:51:24 2014 No.1566368 >>1566021 >>1566021 There are many ways to skin a cat but you don't have to use a dull knife. unzip "*.zip"

Anonymous Wed Apr 23 05:51:55 2014 No.1566369

>>1566306
Yeah, No-Intro is just a database, I was referring to the nebulous forces at work on UG back in the day preparing No-Intro compatible sets. If you got a No-Intro set with Goodset organization, either a different maintainer was responsible, or they've all gone full retard.

Anonymous Wed Apr 23 06:19:31 2014 No.1566392
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>>1566013
>Look at No-Intro collections for MAME through EmuParadise
>They're all hosted by websites that demand you to download the file with their special snowflake software instead of a direct link

Anonymous Wed Apr 23 06:22:10 2014 No.1566396

>People still complaining about not being to download individual roms from sets after >>1564703 was posted.
Some people here are just being deliberately obtuse. It has already been shown that you can perfectly download No-intro roms zipped from archive.org and play them straight away in any decent emulator and yet some retards here still have the gall to whine about it. If you don't want to take advice then hard shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 06:25:37 2014 No.1566401 >>1566392 PleasureDome has a complete No-Intro torrent. Every system.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 16:54:57 2014 No.1566747 >>1566396 that's nice but I'm really looking for something where I don't have to unzip. Like I can say to siri "play battle field for" and it will download the rom and emulate it on my iphone.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 17:13:46 2014 No.1566806 As far as Dump quality what are good sites, for obtaining ROMS? I usual go from CoolRom and Emuparadise, though I have gotten shitty roms from CR before.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 17:15:48 2014 No.1566817 >>1566806 Romhustler does the 7zip thing with every known dump of every region inside a single file. Try them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 17:16:04 2014 No.1566819 >>1566806 http://emu-russia.net

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 17:17:50 2014 No.1566827 >>1565136 Search "[u]" in the folder. Magic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 17:48:23 2014 No.1566928 >>1566030 Oh, then you want Maybe-Intro.

Anonymous Wed Apr 23 17:54:28 2014 No.1566950

>>1566161
>>1566369
All you have to do is extract everything to the same fiolder (i.e. select all > right clicjk > extract here) and then batch archive everything to its own folder (i.e. select all extracted ROMs > right click > add to archive > tick "add each file to separate archive")

Bam. You have one .zip for every ROM, and you can delete the .7zs.

Anonymous Wed Apr 23 17:59:47 2014 No.1566959

>>1566950
yeah...this is a bad idea.
don't compress your roms.
the case has been made here in the thread.
the miniscule amount of space saved is of no real benefit. It is better if you use "extract each archive to a separate folder" option from rightclick or use a tool like romjacket.

Anonymous Wed Apr 23 18:34:13 2014 No.1567039

>>1566959
...So you'd have to go through an extra folder every time you pick a game? (I'm talking per-console, by the way. All your SNES ROMs in a folder. Not all of your SNES, 2600, and Master System ROMs together in a folder.)

Some amount of space is saved by compressing the files. That is a real benefit. There is no real DOWNSIDE to zipping your ROMs. Just about every cartridge console emulator I've ever seen supports playing games from ZIPs with no negative consequences. If you zip up your ROMs to individual .zips, you get the same experience as having the ROMs unzipped, but you are also saving some amount of space. Why would you not do this? It is literally identical to playing them unzipped, but you are being more efficient with your hard drive space, not to mention lightening the load on the people sharing/downloading the set. I personally have a balls-slow satellite ISP that limits my daily usage to 375MB because they know I don't have any other options; any amount of data shaved off the file is helpful to me and anyone in a similar situation; it is the most efficient way to distribute the set, and it should totally be on the user to unzip the files if they prefer bloat on their hard drive.

If you have some weird personal compulsion to do things as inefficiently as possible, then by all means get a GOODset and extract each archive to separate folder, but there are ONLY benefits to zipping your cart ROMs in the way I described.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 18:42:25 2014 No.1567050 >>1567039 >cpu cycles >disk spin >unknown dump source >unsearchable as unique items from the operating system don't compress your roms people. >extra folder every time you pick a rom. a frontend will eliminate that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 18:44:05 2014 No.1567052 >>1567039 roms should be compressed for distribution, but individually compressed.

Anonymous Wed Apr 23 19:10:13 2014 No.1567127
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>>1567050
I don't have to worry about the dump source on my No-Intro set, the disk spin and CPU cycles are more negligible than the hard drive space on just about any computer from the last decade, and as per the post where I explained batch-compressing to separate archives, the zip file has the same name as the single ROM inside it, which makes it completely searchable in my OS.

I guess if you use a frontend, your folder structure is irrelevant, but I have yet to experience a need for a frontend over pic related, where I can just click a controller icon and immediately browse all of my zipped ROMs for that console. (With the exception of MAME, because MAME - unlike every other emulator I've ever used - has no convenient way to browse games on its own.) Does your frontend have trouble with zipped ROMs or something?

If you like to see the extensions or double click the ROM to start the emu or something, fine, but I just don't get why you would be insisting to other people that it's bad to do things efficiently.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 21:01:38 2014 No.1567159 >>1564558 Then it's your own fucking fault.

Anonymous Wed Apr 23 22:28:13 2014 No.1567407

>>1567127
the real issue i have is that using archived roms is adding complexity where it doesn't need to be; the amount of space saved is what is negligible.
The benefits of having roms with their extension visible and accessible have been stated and are of more value to more people than a few mb in 2014.
Compression is for distribution, not for usage and this is true for almost everything. the ability of emus to use zip files is a feature, not a preference.
If you actually use windows explorer as your fe, i feel bad for you.

Anonymous Thu Apr 24 05:39:17 2014 No.1568074

>>1566959
For distributors, smaller file size is really important. More bytes = more expensive to store and transmit, whether it be for file hosts, or for people seeding or downloading torrents. It's also not a miniscule difference, my previous example of a full NES set is 160MB to 580MB. It's even more important for big ROM sets like for the Playstation. Just Diablo (USA) is 653MB instead of 347MB.

>>	Corruption in Sweden Thu Apr 24 05:49:00 2014 No.1568085 File: 12 KB, 182x146, 73491.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hello theisozone theoldcomputer goodbye

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 05:54:15 2014 No.1568090 >>1568085 theisozone is a coolrom when it comes to ROM standards.

>>	Corruption in Sweden Thu Apr 24 06:08:23 2014 No.1568101 >>1568090 yeah, that's why i also listed theoldcomputer

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 07:07:01 2014 No.1568142 >>1568101 It looks like some shitty site that forces registration. What does it offer over archive.org?

>>	Corruption in Sweden Thu Apr 24 07:16:15 2014 No.1568152 File: 15 KB, 385x204, 1315796893158.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1568142 quit being a smartass and lrn2google username stoniey420 pass gonja420 now quit trying to start an argument and enjoy your 2K GB of free shit.

>>	Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco Thu Apr 24 07:53:03 2014 No.1568173 File: 192 KB, 365x359, 1396480308174.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Full Game Collection Every Single Game.torrent >Files: 1

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 12:22:56 2014 No.1568445 >>1566747 It's like you didn't read that post of all. That probably goes for most of the retards in this thread.

Anonymous Thu Apr 24 12:46:58 2014 No.1568472

>>1567407
>If you actually use windows explorer as your fe, i feel bad for you.

Why? I click an icon and a game/emu starts. I put command arguments in the shortcut if I need to use any. I have a really simple text-list MAME frontend because you literally have to use a frontend with MAME to browse a large collection.

>>1568074
THANK YOU for being the one to take the time to uncompress your ROMs. I knew there was a pretty significant difference, but I just did not want to wait for dozens of GB of ROMs to unzip just to make a point on the internet and delete them again. I remember when I first modded my PS2 and put a SNES emu on a disc for it, I didn't realize I could use .zips and unpacked everything. I had to delete a significant part of the ROMset to make it fit on a DVD, but when I realized that .zips worked, the whole ROMset went on the disc with room to spare.

Anonymous Thu Apr 24 13:21:58 2014 No.1568517
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Hi everyone! Thought you all might like to know about this free and opensource tool called RoM-Jacket (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/413403/index.html))
which will make life easier for a lot of you in this thread.

>>	Corruption in Sweden Thu Apr 24 20:57:51 2014 No.1569581 >>1568517 what does it do?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 21:13:12 2014 No.1569612 >>1568173 >games.exe legit,comrade!

Anonymous Thu Apr 24 21:57:42 2014 No.1569731

>>1569581
RoM-Jacket is a tool-kit for ROMs, emulators and fronends. It provides an interface that allows users to manage all aspects of their library on a per-game basis.

It's a drag'n drop interface to generate a functional mediacenter for games.
it's pretty freakin awesome.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 22:18:56 2014 No.1569794 >>1565013 What the hell does /pol/ have to do with this, anyway?

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