Underrated/Obscure Retro RPGs

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Underrated/Obscure Retro RPGs Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Sun Apr 20 17:34:25 2014 No.1559243 [DELETED]

I always wanted to make this thread. I want to make a list of underrated/obscure/interesting retro w/jRPGs. Sub-genres such as Action RPGs or Tactical RPGs are fine, too.

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#1 Platform games:
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#2 Shoot'em Ups:
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#3 Puzzle games:
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#4 Beat'em Ups:
http://pastebin.com/FT6L91uU
#5 Fighting games:
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#6 ROM Hacks:
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#7 Racing games:
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>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 20 18:12:27 2014 No.1559360 Terranigma is probably the most underrated game I know.

Anonymous Sun Apr 20 18:31:18 2014 No.1559409

>>1559243
Ok, so.....what, are you asking for the names of some?

If you use the catalog you will see loads of duplicate threads of people asking for retro rpg's to play.

Heres some for the snes: Treasure Hunter G, Bahamut lagoon, Tales of spike McFang. I have NEVER seen these talked about on /vr/ ergo, nobody's played them.

inb4 everyone starts mentioning seiken Densetsu 3, live-A-live and Illusion of Gaia as though they're obscure anymore.

Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Sun Apr 20 18:43:24 2014 No.1559447

>>1559409
>Ok, so.....what, are you asking for the names of some?
That's right.

>If you use the catalog you will see loads of duplicate threads of people asking for retro rpg's to play.

Yeah, I know that RPGs are common topic on /vr/, but people generally talk about more well-known ones.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 20 18:47:55 2014 No.1559457 >>1559409 Chaos Seed, record of lodoss war,silva saga 2, princess minerva,Feda emblem of justice, just breed, taloons great adventure, Ys'5, Adventures of Hourai High, Dark Law, Gunman´s Proof, Metal Max Returns, Sylvan Tale

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 20 18:50:36 2014 No.1559462 >>1559457 Impressive. Most impressive

>>	Dragon View Anonymous Sun Apr 20 18:51:39 2014 No.1559467 >>1559243 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66jVJzz1-o0

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 20 18:56:05 2014 No.1559473 >Mystic Ark >Sweet Home >Live-a-live

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 20 18:56:34 2014 No.1559476 File: 22 KB, 360x360, 572710_10719_front.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Brave Prove (PS) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q041oQblAy8

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 20 19:02:08 2014 No.1559491 >>1559473 >live-a-live Looks like my prophecy came true. Dull witted person

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 20 19:03:32 2014 No.1559493 >List of underrated fighting games >No Psychic Force 2012 I don't care if this isn't the right thread to be saying this, you have to add that shit in right now. It's easily the most innovative fighter from that era.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 20 19:11:05 2014 No.1559512 >>1559493 Feels like a prototype to senko no ronde.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 20 20:47:54 2014 No.1559749 >>1559476 Wow thanks!

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 20 20:50:01 2014 No.1559752 >>1559360 Well, it wasn't released in America, was it? At least here in Europe it's cherished as a great game.

Anonymous Sun Apr 20 21:16:24 2014 No.1559801

>>1559409
>>1559491
>I bet nobody has played [Japanese Squaresoft SNES RPG] but you fuckers better not mention [Japanese Squaresoft SNES RPG] since it's not obscure because I said so.
Don't be a twat. Anybody looking for ROMs who played FFVI and Chrono Trigger likely found out about the whole lot of fan-translated Square games within the last decade or more. That doesn't mean they're mainstream.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 20 21:25:46 2014 No.1559824 File: 99 KB, 640x696, 306702_front.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] great NES rpg, never heard any mention of it before.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 20 21:31:14 2014 No.1559832 >>1559752 It was actually but I don't remember hearing about it as a kid.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 20 22:18:33 2014 No.1559913 Chaos Seed Treasure Hunter G

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 20 22:34:23 2014 No.1559938 Rudra no Hihou. Mentioned occasionally on /vr/, but not too often. Pretty interesting because of the split routes and the craft your own spell system.

Anonymous Sun Apr 20 22:40:02 2014 No.1559949
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Hourai Gakuen no Bouken! Tenkousei Scramble

RPG that takes place in a Japanese high school. It has a job system and does not take itself seriously at all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 00:17:30 2014 No.1560206 >>1559476 Fucking SCEA and their no 2D games policy. We missed out on so many great games.

Anonymous Mon Apr 21 01:17:01 2014 No.1560382

All these DOS games...

Might & Magic 1-3 (everyone only talks about Xeen, Xeen, Xeen...)
The Keys to Maramon
The Magic Candle series
Tunnels & Trolls: Crusaders of Khazan
Dark Heart of UUkrul
Knights of Legend
Legacy of the Ancients
Sentinel Worlds I: Future Magic
Hard Nova
Wasteland

Anonymous Mon Apr 21 02:56:40 2014 No.1560542
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Destiny Of An Emperor definitely is an overlooked RPG on the NES and it's superior japan only sequel shouldn't be forgotten either.
I guess Sweet Home and Magic of Scheherazade also qualifies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 07:11:07 2014 No.1560836 >>1559476 >tfw no english translation

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 11:08:38 2014 No.1561105 >>1559243 Seiken Densetsu 3 Live-a-live Illusion of Gaia

Anonymous Mon Apr 21 11:43:37 2014 No.1561162

Could people stop mentioning games that aren't in English?

What's the point of saying "Hey, there's this cool RPG that features x and y that you should totally play and enjoy!" If only 2% of readers can enjoy it.

If it was never released in English and doesn't have a fan translation released or in the works, then keep it to yourself.

Anonymous Mon Apr 21 11:47:47 2014 No.1561176
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Ungra Walker on PS. It's an ARPG with local multiplayer coop.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15455456

Magicoal is another good ARPG with coop. I wont recommend the single player, the character swap controls suck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 14:26:25 2014 No.1561469 >>1561162 Too lazy to learn enough Japanese?

Anonymous Mon Apr 21 14:32:40 2014 No.1561480

>>1561162
>If it was never released in English and doesn't have a fan translation released or in the works, then keep it to yourself.

I don't read/speak a lick of Japanese, but this is silly. Some people on 4chan DO know the language and we shouldn't stifle the list just because you don't.

A better suggestion is to separate the list into "Translated" and "Not translated" lists.

Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Mon Apr 21 17:08:06 2014 No.1561909

>>1561162
My goal is to make a list that is useful to everyone, even those who know the moonrunes.

Thanks for all the contributions so far. Just as a little remainder: handheld games (that includes, GB, GBC, GG and original black-and-white WonderSwan) are fine, too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 17:10:34 2014 No.1561917 File: 4 KB, 256x224, sweethome.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1559243 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp-ICgFx5Hc

Anonymous Mon Apr 21 17:56:56 2014 No.1562056

I was going to make my own thread for this but I think I'll take advantage of this one instead.

Can anybody recommend a strategy RPG that features job-changing gameplay and the ability to form a full team from generic units?

Final Fantasy Tactics and Tactics Ogre are the trendsetters for this one but there must be more out there that I've just been missing.

I'd appreciate any recommendations you may have, if it happens to be non-retro I'd still like to hear about it and I'll resign to not discussing it further.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 18:00:57 2014 No.1562063 >>1559457 Recently I managed to play That Record of Lodoss Saga game for the SNES. If you want my honest opinion, you can prioritize looking other games before giving it a shot. It's bland, and the way the story is presented is not particularly clever.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 18:05:04 2014 No.1562082 There was one for the Snes named Demon Laplace, but dunno if it has been fully translated. Also, That Rayearth game for Gamegear, think some guy is translating it

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 18:09:13 2014 No.1562093 >>1562082 La Place no Ma and yes it's fully translated, but it has bugs. There are many versions of the game, but the Super Famicom version is the only one translated. http://www.romhacking.net/translations/308/

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 19:04:54 2014 No.1562239 What do y'all think of CASTLE QUEST [NES]?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 19:11:41 2014 No.1562243 >>1562056 Not retro but I really recommend the Disgaea series and more secifically the spin off Makai Kingdom on Playstation 2. Retro-wise, Yggdra Union, Advance Wars and Rebelstar all for GBA are kinda like that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 19:13:12 2014 No.1562251 >>1562243 PS: Makai Kingdom ONLY lets you use generic units which is why I'm recommending it. You could also check out Fire Emblem, Growlanser and Shining Force although there's no character creation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 19:19:32 2014 No.1562270 >>1562243 >>1562251 If it isn't retro, it doesn't belong in a thread in /vr/ asking posters for /vr/ content, now does it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 19:20:34 2014 No.1562273 >>1562239 Castle Quest is not an RPG

Anonymous Mon Apr 21 19:21:04 2014 No.1562275

>>1562243
>>1562251

Thanks for the info, I've actually played all of what you've mentioned, some were great, some not so much.

I'm really curious to hear about obscure games of this genre, it seems like all the ones I find that people don't talk about are the railroad SRPG's that strap you into a team of 6, pre-set units, I can't think of anything more boring in a tactics game to be honest.

I will say Makai Kingdom was incredible fun, as are all NIS SRPG's.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 19:21:58 2014 No.1562276 >>1562082 pearsehillock at blogspot shows recent updates

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 19:22:56 2014 No.1562278 >>1561162 To know what it felt/feels like to not read. To make errors.

Anonymous Mon Apr 21 19:24:22 2014 No.1562283

>>1562270

Literally go fuck yourself, in a corner, with the 2 other individuals who are willing to tolerate you. It's one person helping out another who just happens to be in a /vr/ thread.

When the entire thread gets derailed, or threads start popping up for 2000+ era games, then that's your cue Captain Justice.

Anonymous Mon Apr 21 19:25:50 2014 No.1562286

>>1562283
>Retro gaming means consoles, computer games, arcade games (including pinball) and any other forms of video games on platforms launched in 1999 and earlier. With the release of the 8th generation of consoles, the Sega Dreamcast will now be considered "retro", though the remainder of the sixth generation (Xbox, PS2, GameCube) will not.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 19:40:05 2014 No.1562331 Azure Dreams is a roguelike/monster RPG for the GBC and PS1 that doesn't get much talk. Princess Crown is a ARPG that was made by the guys who made Odin Sphere, and it's on the Saturn. Also, amazing sprite work.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 19:45:33 2014 No.1562350 >>1562286 I know bro, thing is, character creation wasn't a thing in jrpgs back then, I guess hardware limitations were partly to blame.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 19:49:19 2014 No.1562357 >>1562331 >Azure Dreams is a roguelike/monster RPG for the GBC and PS1 that doesn't get much talk. I would describe Azure Dreams as a Dungeon-crawling RPG with a dash of Pokémon. Pretty good game, I recommend it to everyone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 20:30:30 2014 No.1562479 >>1562357 It's also a dating sim and a town building game, This game has it all. Everyone should play it, it's THAT good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 20:36:43 2014 No.1562496 >>1562479 Oh man, I forgot about that. Time to go and play it. Also, did you play the PSX version? Is it any different?

Anonymous Mon Apr 21 20:54:30 2014 No.1562526

>>1562056
I've got the perfect one for you , you probably havent hear of. Really feels like a predecessor to ogre battle / FFT.

its got some crazy japanese name but has been translated. It's an extremely overlooked gem. BTW it is for SNES

give it a try you won't be dissapointed

http://www.romhacking.net/translations/907/

^translation

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 20:59:42 2014 No.1562536 Metal Max Robotrek

Anonymous Mon Apr 21 21:11:38 2014 No.1562576

Howsabout some Taiwanese RPGs? They never get discussed here because few have been translated to English. There are two that have been, though. One is called Brave Battle Saga, It is for the Mega Drive/Genesis. While a good game, it uses sprites from several other games, drawing heavily from BoF2 sprites, so it looks a little hackneyed but it is actually a decent RPG.
Another is The Legend of the Swordsman and the Faerie/Demon girl. I don't know how else to translate the name because the word 'hsia/xia' used in the title refers to anything otherworldly but is most often translated into English as "faerie" or "demon." The bitch in question is half snake, so make of it what you will. The original game (there are four or five games in the series now) was released on Windows PC in 1995 and Saturn in 1996.
LSF and BBS have both been translated into English (poorly), and are are fully playable and pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 21:13:25 2014 No.1562584 >>1562526 >Hiouden >Crazy Japanese name Wow, that is, like, 7 letters!

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 21 21:20:04 2014 No.1562604 >>1562526 It's being described as a real-time strategy. I'm pretty sure I'll hate it purely on that note, but I'm happy to give it a whirl. Thanks for the heads up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 05:15:06 2014 No.1563808 >>1562576 >One is called Brave Battle Saga, It is for the Mega Drive/Genesis. I guess I should give it a try then. Most bootleg RPGs are generally quite poor.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 05:21:20 2014 No.1563816 >>1559243 >>1559360 patch for the pal rom that plays the game at full speed rather than 4/5 speed http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/541/

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 05:32:43 2014 No.1563832 I'll throw my hat in the ring for Super Ninja Boy again. It didn't make the cut for Beat'em Ups, but it's at least an Action RPG. Marvelous on the SNES is also pretty dope. There's also Guardian's Crusade on the PS1.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 10:11:33 2014 No.1564106 Does anyone know good Genesis RPGs that aren't PS or SF?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 10:24:02 2014 No.1564123 >>1564106 It's not very obscure but check out Beyond Oasis if you haven't already. It's a fun little game that's pretty well put together.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 12:14:14 2014 No.1564245 >>1564106 Langrisser II, Beyond Oasis (like the anon above said), New Horizons, Beggar Prince, and Landstalker are good. Oh, and Monster World IV, if you count it as a ARPG. There's also the JP-only Surging Aura that's on par, if not better than PS4.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 12:20:46 2014 No.1564253 >>1559752 The ending was pretty disappointing though. You don't even shoot phoenixes at the final boss.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 12:25:18 2014 No.1564260 >>1559243 Haven't kept track of these threads much but I'd like to say thank you for all the work you've been putting into these lists.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 12:29:33 2014 No.1564263 >>1563808 It's on my backlog but IMO if it's good enough for a fan translation, you're probably looking at one of the best ones. I've seen some pretty surprising reviews about it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 12:32:35 2014 No.1564264 >>1564106 King Colossus Also Uncharted Waters got both an SNES and Genesis version.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 12:40:24 2014 No.1564269 File: 3.88 MB, 400x292, 472.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1559949 more people should play this, solid RPG, just wish their was a patch to reduce the fucking insane encounter rate

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 13:28:10 2014 No.1564336 >>1564106 Shinning in the Darkness Faery Tale Adventure There's a bunch of stuff for SegaCD too...

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 13:28:58 2014 No.1564339 >>1564336 >Shinning Ya blew it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 13:30:04 2014 No.1564342 File: 926 KB, 245x120, uq8xdxbTN1qmqh7go4_r1_250.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1564253 >The ending was pretty disappointing though,

Anonymous Tue Apr 22 18:12:19 2014 No.1564839

>>1562584
I was thinking of the full name:
"Hiōden: Mamono-tachi tono Chikai"

>>1562526
You can pause it and then send in your unit. I don't really like rts too much but I enjoyed this. Again it really feels like ogre battle / fft style. Alot of the people who worked on it went to work on those games

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 18:49:11 2014 No.1564936 >>1561469 Not all of us own a fucking hyperbolic time-chamber, bulma.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 22 19:55:50 2014 No.1565167 >>1564106 Crusader of Centy/Shin Souseiki Ragnacenty/Soleil

Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Wed Apr 23 06:03:06 2014 No.1566380

>>1563832
Oh yeah, I remember promising you that I'll add SNB to the RPG list. Don't worry, I will.

>>1564260
Not a problem, I hope you found these lists useful.

>>1564336
>Shinning in the Darkness
Isn't that more of straight-up dungeon crawler than a RPG?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 16:53:47 2014 No.1566743 bump

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 16:57:05 2014 No.1566754 >>1561469 >>1564936 DragonBurned.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 16:59:15 2014 No.1566767 Arabian Nights, Treasure of the Rudras, Shining Force Gaiden: Final Conflict, Cyber Knight, and the Metal Max games, off the top of my head. I also really like the Tenchi Muyo game on the SNES.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 21:11:02 2014 No.1567181 >>1562496 The PSX version is the one to for, the GBC one is really watered down and missing a lot of features.

Anonymous Wed Apr 23 21:27:22 2014 No.1567230
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Lagrange point is really cool. Sci-fi themed RPG's are few and far between, and this one's got a pretty cool sound chip that wasn't seen anywhere else.

Konami also made a couple really cool Mystical Ninja RPG's for the Famicom called Goemon Gaiden. I really wish all of those games were translated.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 21:49:30 2014 No.1567296 >>1566380 Dungeon crawlers are RPGs, tho.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 23:12:57 2014 No.1567491 >>1561162 OP should just make 2 parts on his list for RPGs then First and upper part are games that have English translations and the second those that do not

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 23 23:37:57 2014 No.1567554 File: 118 KB, 256x255, Kartia_-_The_Word_of_Fate_Coverart.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wouldn't really call this a great game, but it's fairly obscure as far as JRPGs go.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 01:07:09 2014 No.1567787 >>1562536 >Robotrek Came here for this. Wasn't disappointed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 01:54:01 2014 No.1567848 Moon: Remix RPG Adventure Linda3

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 01:57:20 2014 No.1567852 >>1567491 He should just note when there's a translation patch available like how he did to the platformer list. I mean, pretty please, it shouldn't take more than one quick google.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 02:19:35 2014 No.1567872 File: 99 KB, 570x816, 153669-La_Pucelle_-_Tactics_(Europe)-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1559243 I don't know if it's retro enough, but surely waaay underrated and with a plot and humor even as good as Disgaea 1

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 02:39:12 2014 No.1567903 File: 30 KB, 512x448, LennusII.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Lennus (Paladin's Quest) and Lennus 2

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 02:46:39 2014 No.1567908 >>1567872 Gee, I don't know. What year was the playstation 2 released? If only there was a sticky... it is better than disgaea though

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 03:10:30 2014 No.1567936 >>1567903 >Paladin's Quest Damn that was a crazy-ass game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 04:19:13 2014 No.1568003 >>1567903 >>1567936 I tried playing these games once and I got turned off after about 15 minutes of playing. I hated them. I'm thinking about giving them another chance now, but tell me; are they actually any good?

Anonymous Thu Apr 24 04:34:14 2014 No.1568013
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>>1559824
Picked this one up recently, a word of warning for anyone who decides to play it: the English patched version has a major bug. Once you get enough experience to level up, you will continue to get the stat gains for that level every time you hit an enemy for the duration of the battle. If you don't want to play with an overpowered army, save and reset the emulator after starting a new game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 04:40:00 2014 No.1568018 >>1568003 the second one is better than the first and there stories aren't connected to I'd try that one

Anonymous Thu Apr 24 06:49:04 2014 No.1568130

>>1567554

I wouldn't say that, I think it might have been the first SRPG for the PSX. It's pretty fun but the dolls you get aren't varied enough, the upgrades are just stronger rather than more interesting.

Also, it might have been because I played this when I was young but I remember the story being not terrible.

Anonymous Thu Apr 24 07:00:26 2014 No.1568139

>>1562526
>>1562584
>>1564839
Gave this a shot. I want to like it, but the characters blinking from tile to tile, the click-to-scroll (as opposed to mouse over), and the diagonal-only scrolling are a bit annoying. Also, it locks up at the beginning of the second map when using zsnesw & auto ips patching.

Anonymous Thu Apr 24 07:10:53 2014 No.1568146

>>1568139

I also found the controls to be clunky, the scrolling cursor is probably the worst part for me. I think there's a way to enable a mouse with Zsnes, I might try that later.

I didn't get the issue of locking up though, I'm using Zsnes 1.36 + the same linked patch. Rom was from emuparadise, I think.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 07:20:04 2014 No.1568156 >>1568146 Yeah, I was using the mouse, it works breddy gud, but everything's still a bit clunky.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 08:00:07 2014 No.1568176 I like rpgs in the vein of diablo1/2, the souls games, etc, what is something suitably dark I should play?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 08:53:02 2014 No.1568202 Any list like these for strategy games or the like?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 09:18:46 2014 No.1568221 >>1567848 Has Moon been translated yet? I've been waiting for a very long time. I want to know what the fuss is about.

Anonymous Thu Apr 24 10:33:29 2014 No.1568279
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>>1568176
King's Field and Shadow Tower, those are the games From made before that pretty much inspired the Souls series.

Also, Lodoss War on the Dreamcast is A LOT like Diablo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 10:37:55 2014 No.1568282 >>1568013 If you know the specifics, can you report this bug on the romhacking dot net forums? They love any person who finds bugs in patches

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Thu Apr 24 17:35:05 2014 No.1569135 >>1559457 Princess Minerva doesn't have an English translation, am I right? >>1567852 Don't worry, I'm going to do that. >>1568202 I was thinking about this, but to be honest, I don't know any good obscure retro strategy games.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 17:40:21 2014 No.1569149 >>1569135 I don't believe it does according to RHDN

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 17:49:24 2014 No.1569170 Dragon View.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 18:05:42 2014 No.1569216 >>1569149 I can honestly say that at least a third of translations available online are not on romhacking.net.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 19:19:08 2014 No.1569407 File: 65 KB, 640x447, brandish.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Grand Master and Radia Senki on the Famicom. Both Brandish games on the SNES.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 19:23:51 2014 No.1569417 >>1569216 Why not submit what they don't have? I submit whenever I find something that they don't have, but most of the time it was just German and Swedish translations that very few people like me ever use

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 19:39:15 2014 No.1569436 These are a wonderful thread series. I salute OP for this wonderful idea.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 19:40:35 2014 No.1569438 File: 20 KB, 441x304, shinsenden.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1569436 And now, my recomendation: Shinsenden.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 19:46:57 2014 No.1569449 File: 32 KB, 240x301, Telefang_Power.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1569438 Keitai Denju Telefang Power/Speed Version

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 19:48:16 2014 No.1569454 File: 101 KB, 658x650, saiyukipsx-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1569449 Saiyuki Journey West

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 19:49:48 2014 No.1569457 File: 23 KB, 256x256, Wildarmscase.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1569454 Wild Arms

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 19:53:21 2014 No.1569464 File: 38 KB, 420x292, Shadowrun.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1569457

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 24 20:45:52 2014 No.1569553 File: 277 KB, 300x380, frog.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] s'good stuff

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Fri Apr 25 08:34:13 2014 No.1570828 >>1569149 I found out that the team who did Chaos Seed fan translation is working on Princess Minerva right now. http://www.dynamic-designs.us/princessminerva.shtml >>1569436 No problem, glad you like them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 25 08:43:58 2014 No.1570856 I salute your efforts, OP, keep going!

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 25 13:18:57 2014 No.1571313 >>1569407 I just bought the first one. Convince me I won't regret it.

Anonymous Fri Apr 25 14:03:41 2014 No.1571425
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>>1569407
>Radia Senki

This reminds me that the english prototype (named Tower of Radia) got leaked recently.
I wonder how's the translation compared to the unofficial...

> Tower of Radia (USA) (Proto).nes

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Fri Apr 25 15:59:51 2014 No.1571616 >>1571425 Is it finished? That prototype, I mean.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 25 17:11:51 2014 No.1571808 File: 155 KB, 420x300, filena.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Eien no Filena http://www.romhacking.net/translations/761/

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 25 18:41:45 2014 No.1572169 >>1559360 I don't think it's underrated. Just unknown. People who are aware of it tend to rate it rather highly.

Anonymous Fri Apr 25 18:47:13 2014 No.1572196

>>1572169
I love Terranigma, but it tapers off really fucking hard once you finish chapter what... 2? When you ressurect HUMENS.

Idk, it just feels worse the second you enter that chapter. The first chapter? Going through the towers? Fucking excellent.

Going to a desolate world and bringing back plants, birds, wind, animals? That was fucking great too.

Bring back humans and you have to deal with a bunch of uninteresting garbage, stupid history references (that make no sense, IE: Christopher Columbus is in Europe, while a dude is building a fucking aeroplane in America), as well as gouging the shit out of enemy levels basically forcing you to grind or deal 1 damage to most bosses.

I like Terranigma a lot, but it started super fucking strong, with a good premise, interesting gameplay and mechanics, but it tapers off really fucking hard and doesn't really ever expand on the core you start wtih, making it be boring.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 25 18:57:21 2014 No.1572238 Why dont we maje a /vr/ wiki?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 25 18:58:49 2014 No.1572247 >>1572238 >don't >make I hate smartphones for typing.

Anonymous Fri Apr 25 19:05:41 2014 No.1572271

>>1572196
I'd never claim the game isn't flawed, though I see the flaws elsewhere.

Combat is brilliant - only one weapon, but five different attacks, and two of those are on-the-move-without-slowing-down, which allowed for a very fluid gameplay, much more so than its competitors in the genre.

Grinding OTOH, is... Poorly done. Not that you've to grind all that much - you can finish the game in under five hours worth of playtime -, but it's easy to end up massively overpowered and one-shotting bosses.

The magic aspect was noticeably tacked-on and completely unnecessary. You can completely ignore the crystals and finish the game without ever noticing that you're missing something. Needless to say, this is bad. And the one time the healing magic would come in handy - the final boss -, magic no longer works. What the fuck?

Chapter 3 onwards was pretty nice I thought - yes, the chronology doesn't make any sense, but that didn't bother me. I loved the secondary game, building up the cities and just talking to people. Even betting on the chicken race. Though I do agree that the atmosphere no longer sucked you in like the start of the game - it's strange, to put the comfy part of the game in the middle rather than at the start.

The story itself, and Mei Lin's constant emo episodes... Eh. Weird, but I guess I take it over standard JRPG fare, though I much prefer Link's Awakening in this regard. I'd say Secret of Evermore as well, but that's just its inventive story. It doesn't exactly have any long term NPC interaction.

Anonymous Fri Apr 25 19:06:01 2014 No.1572274

>>1572196
I agree it tapers off. I disagree at what point it tapers off. It tapers off with the whole mad scientist spiel towards the end. At that point, I was so near to its conclusion that I figured 'meh, might as well finish it up' but when that element was introduced, it really jumped the shark.

Anonymous Fri Apr 25 19:07:37 2014 No.1572279

>>1572271
Yeah, the boss balance was fucking insane, I tack this up to 1 stat meaning way too much.

Seriously, 1 level is the difference between dealing 1-3 damage and dealing 5-10 damage on bosses, its not balanced well at all. Of course grinding 3+ levels ahead of the curve lets you decimate anything.

>>	raquiel Fri Apr 25 19:25:33 2014 No.1572340 >>1568279 >Lodoss War on the Dreamcast I was surprised at how good this game was, got it for real cheap back then not expecting anything.

>>	raquiel Fri Apr 25 19:29:01 2014 No.1572348 >>1572340 oh and if I remember correctly, it also has a NG+ mode, that gets harder every cycle, like the Soul series

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 04:01:49 2014 No.1573323 bump

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 04:12:41 2014 No.1573331 >>1568279 Aw shit yes, Record of the Lodoss War is what I wanted Diablo 1 to be.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 07:10:44 2014 No.1573581 While popular in Japan the SaGa series is very underrated in the west.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 07:15:14 2014 No.1573587 File: 2.07 MB, 200x149, 139732423527.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1559476 That game looks absolutely awesome.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 08:11:23 2014 No.1573625

>>1573581
Blame Unlimited for killing the franchise and for good reason: The Panel leveling system was fucked up. It took away everything we knew about the formula of actions reflecting stat growth.

It did not hold your damned hand at all, which for the most hardcore of gamers is a good thing, but for other fans of the series who liked the games up until that point were pissed as hell having to slog through the character's stories and having to deal with the nightmare known as the panel system.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:31:44 2014 No.1573723 >>1564245 >Beyond Oasis It looks pretty awesome.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:44:03 2014 No.1573731 >>1572238 1. We already have two in the sticky, one not made in /vr/ 2. /v/ already has one for general recs. 3. /vr/ doesn't even care enough to make rec sheets let alone a wiki.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 09:56:06 2014 No.1573740

>>1573723

Not that Anon, but it was fucking AWESOME.

Only took ~7 hours to beat, so there's that. Loved the beat-em-up combat though.

>>1571313

Anyone? Looked pretty cool in screenshots, but after I bought it I checked videos and that camera system seems weird as fuck. Is this game actually fun, or did I waste $30?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 10:52:51 2014 No.1573790 >>1573740 Have you been to the Brandish general? This post >>1566531 says it all.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 11:03:33 2014 No.1573802

>>1573625
Its not that the Panel leveling was an inherently bad idea, it was simply implemented horribly. You only got panel selection for finishing a mission, you fail or run out of turns you got nothing. The panels you could select from were semi-random. Finally, the killer, you had to replace a panel. Nothing sucked more than having a bunch of lvl4-5 panels and having to pick a level 3 (or lower) when you didn't want any of them to begin with.

Anonymous Sat Apr 26 12:09:40 2014 No.1573927
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>>1571425
>http://www.romhacking.net/translations/761/
I bought this as a reproduction cart when it was under the name Chronicles of the Radia War and it is awesome! The Battle System is like an early attempt at the Secret of Mana style battling. The music is really good too!

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Sat Apr 26 16:35:09 2014 No.1574492 >>1573740 >Loved the beat-em-up combat though. Really? Straight into my backlog, then.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 18:26:28 2014 No.1574813 >>1573927 Hell yeah! This game is great and the music is catchy as all get out. Never finished it, even though I got to the last dungeon. Need to give it another go.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 26 18:43:02 2014 No.1574856 File: 293 KB, 532x294, Smas_eng_00000.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Not sure if this counts, but I found it rather enjoyable. Though your mileage may vary: I think it's way too much on the easy side and appeases better to Sailor Moon fans.

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Sun Apr 27 02:52:42 2014 No.1576114 >>1574856 Isn't that a beat'em up?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 27 02:55:59 2014 No.1576119 >>1576114 No, Another Story is a JRPG. The other SNES Sailor Moon games are beatemups or 1-on-1 fighters.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 27 02:57:59 2014 No.1576123 >>1576114 No, Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon: Another Story is a very traditional rpg. There is a Sailor Moon beat 'em up, but it's a different game.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 27 10:45:28 2014 No.1576645 Fatal Labyrinth. It got me into rougelikes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 27 10:56:31 2014 No.1576670 The PS1 Summon Night games. People only know of the Swordscraft games outside of Japan

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Sun Apr 27 16:41:28 2014 No.1577764 >>1576119 >>1576123 I see, thanks for clarifying.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 27 19:55:33 2014 No.1578463 Mac RPGs: Odyssey: The Legend of Nemesis Citadel: Adventure of the Crystal Keep JauntTrooper - Mission: Thunderbolt JauntTrooper - Mission: Firestorm aGORA: Soul of the Oracle

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 28 00:59:49 2014 No.1579387 File: 51 KB, 640x480, 7th.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 7th Saga, snes

Anonymous Mon Apr 28 01:11:26 2014 No.1579407

>>1559409
>Tales of spike McFang
Came here to recommend this. Action RPG that is way too good for what it is

My parents rented that for me one time when I was sick, and I'd seen the cover before and thought "ugh", but I have never been more pleasantly surprised

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 28 09:02:32 2014 No.1579929 >>1569553 Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this a Zelda-style action adventure game rather than a RPG?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 28 09:08:23 2014 No.1579940 >>1579929 No, it's a simple rpg with turn automatic battles and streamlined equipment..

Anonymous Mon Apr 28 09:12:47 2014 No.1579945
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Is this obscure? I mean on the one hand it's Harry Potter, on the other hand I have the impression I'm the only person to have ever played it.

>expected a platformer or a minigame collection or some such licensed shit
>got a fairly fun, original and solid, if simple, turn-based RPG with a good soundtrack
>never beat the ridiculous potions class so just explored hogwarts and fought random battles until my Harry damn near maxed out
shit was so cash

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 28 09:22:15 2014 No.1579962 >>1579387 Actually this isn't really that obscure. Sure lesser known, but it's more known for it's difficulty. It's sequel, Mystic Ark, on the other hand...

Anonymous Mon Apr 28 09:30:49 2014 No.1579974

>>1579945
Yeah, I loved it. Beat it a few times, great game.
I remember that one of my faggot classmates had overwritten my almost complete save file, and on the second playthrough I had been stuck on that potion class quest for a long time.

ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS KILL SOME SNAKES, CJ

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 28 09:34:44 2014 No.1579980 >>1579945 >Flippendo Incendio was awesome too. I remember some mission with chickens that managed to kill me. I even played the second game. It´s the same shit, but with better minigames.

Anonymous Mon Apr 28 09:41:11 2014 No.1579991
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>>1579980
But chickens only dealt 1 damage all the time...though maybe I was just overleveled when playing through that mission when I've finally got my hands on a ROM and a walkthrough for that potions class

And yeah, the spell system was cool, though once you get Locomotor Wibbly and Mucus ad Nauseam those two spells basically break the game in half (and are, as far as I can tell, the only way to beat the final boss without overleveling). The only gripe I have with the battle system is that the card combinations served no purpose since everything except Voldemort was so simple to beat simply mashing Flipendo, and the cards were a nice little quirk that could be more useful.

Anonymous Mon Apr 28 09:47:54 2014 No.1579995

>>1579991
I don´t remember it well, but yeah, it was pretty pathetic. I was playing with my sister, and she mocked me for a whole month.

In the second, the cards unlock cool loot in chests after you complete a cathegory (alchemy, sports etc). Once again, it´s pretty useless, because the game is really easy.

Anonymous Mon Apr 28 11:40:25 2014 No.1580146
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The Legend of Xanadu on the PC Engine CD, which is another Dragon Slayer installment like Xanadu, Faxanadu, Legacy of the Wizard and Legend of Heroes, is kind of a strange mix between the normal overhead Ys games and Ys III.

It has ~12 multiple-hour long chapters which play a LOT like Ys,(bumping into enemies to kill them, complete with the same sound effects) but all end with an awesome platforming stage, like in pic related.

The very last chapter all takes place in a huge 32-floor tower, one of the most difficult dungeons in any video game.

Unfortunately, chances of this game getting translated are very slim. There just isn't a whole lot of interest in PC Engine translations. A translation for it's much shorter sequel is underway, but progress is very slow and there hasn't been an update for over a year.

Here is an old Laserdisc promo, which also contains some gameplay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je9ifAjUyLU

Anonymous Mon Apr 28 12:10:59 2014 No.1580202
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>>1580146
Also, there is a way to access the debug mode in the retail game. If you start a new game while holding the Select/Run buttons, you can access any part of the game instantly, which is great if you just want to play the sidescrolling sections which don't have a language barrier.

Anonymous Mon Apr 28 12:49:19 2014 No.1580302
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Still /vr/, although the means of playing it are not.

But it kills me how silent people have been when it came to this game, cause I personally find it to be on of the best SMT games ever made.

Cyberpunk setting. Awesome cast of characters who all find their time to shine, a excellent soundtrack, and maybe one of the fastest battle systems in the entire SMT line up.
It's really worth checking out if you're into the older SMT games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlAf4EE7sDQ

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 28 13:58:14 2014 No.1580426 File: 89 KB, 640x643, 36604_front[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1580302 That's not obscure at all. The 3DS port sold incredibly well. Now, if you were talking about this beauty...

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 28 16:48:13 2014 No.1580753 >>1580426 I meant in the terms of fan reaction. It's maybe one of the least talked about SMT localized games.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 28 17:02:26 2014 No.1580791 >>1559243 pretty much all Saturn RPGs. shame really.

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Mon Apr 28 18:18:22 2014 No.1580971 >>1580791 The thing with Saturn's library is that many of its game are considered to be either great classics or underrated gems. I remember people arguing if Radiant Silvergun should be on the shmup list or not.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 28 19:41:08 2014 No.1581165 >>1573581 I heard we almost didn't get the third SaGa Game Boy entry until there was enough fan interest

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 28 23:21:03 2014 No.1581745 >>1576670 If they are lucky. If they aren't, they'll know Twin Age too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 28 23:31:17 2014 No.1581774 Willow for NES.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 28 23:35:31 2014 No.1581789 >ctrl + f >no alundra I am disappointed /vg/ I know its not really a traditional RPG, but its kind of an Action RPG, its akin to Terranigma in a lot of ways. I think its worthy of the list.

Anonymous Mon Apr 28 23:56:37 2014 No.1581853

>>1579929
I am not sure how "Action Adventure" gets parsed out of every other video game. I mean, having action and adventure defined every game that was not a sports game or a hard core strategy.

I would put Zelda style games in with the RPGs because they focus on story and character development, collecting gear, and improving character stats.

looking at it that way, the original Zelda would not fit the definition, but A Link to the Past definitely would

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 29 00:00:10 2014 No.1581871 >>1580971 it sucks that almost none of those games are getting re-releases on new systems. I can only play Magic Knight Rayearth in my dreams ;_;

Anonymous Tue Apr 29 00:02:58 2014 No.1581879

>>1573625
I know this game got a ton of sequels, but how popular was it, really? Even all the hype whooped up for SaGa Frontier seemed to fall flat. its like Square brought them over because they brought everything over. Except Tobal No.2...

they all seemed like B-list games

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 29 00:07:51 2014 No.1581890 >>1581879 Japan used to love their SaGa games, so much so that the first one was updated and remade over and over for multiple systems.

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Tue Apr 29 09:09:43 2014 No.1582697 >>1581789 Is Alundra really that obscure, though? I see it being brought quite often.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 29 09:39:31 2014 No.1582730 >>1559243 Albion.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 29 09:40:37 2014 No.1582735 >>1559243

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 29 14:02:07 2014 No.1583176 bump

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 29 14:33:43 2014 No.1583252 >>1581789 Alundra got quite a lot of fame in it's time.

Anonymous Tue Apr 29 14:54:10 2014 No.1583302
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This game, Illusion of Gaia and Terranigma are considered as a loosely connected trilogy of action RPG games.

Soul Blazer is easily the least well known of the three. It's definitely the weakest one, but it's a solid game. I'd say it's still worth playing through it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 29 15:29:51 2014 No.1583370 >>1583302 Weird how people usually call those three a "trilogy" and completely ignore Granstream Saga, which has LOTS of recurring themes from Soul Blazer and Illusion of Gaia.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 29 19:54:25 2014 No.1583985 >>1580202 Thanks

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 29 19:56:58 2014 No.1583994 >>1583370 We'd like to forget it exists. Like black people with freckles and red hair. It's just better to not acknowledge that God has abandoned us and that these evils have been brought forth from the netherworlds.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 29 19:58:49 2014 No.1583998 >>1583994 Granstream Saga isn't that bad for an early PS1 ARPG. It looks blocky and par with Wild Arms

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 29 20:01:33 2014 No.1584006 >>1583998 There. Is. No. God. Or, at least, no loving one if God has allowed the creation of that disc-shaped torture device. It's simply bad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 29 20:03:26 2014 No.1584012 >>1584006 Whoa, not really, it's only annoying because fights are so slow and iirc there's no way to run from them. I actually love the fight system, feels like an early 3D fighter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 29 20:06:01 2014 No.1584019 >>1584012 I'll give it that: the battles weren't so awful but being unable to avoid them blew goats.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 30 02:29:55 2014 No.1585210 >>1559243 In regards to your platform list, Bomberman Hero was an underwhelming and generally disappointing game. Bomberman 64, however, was a god-tier puzzle/adventure game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 30 05:55:39 2014 No.1585435 >>1585210 >Bomberman Hero was an underwhelming and generally disappointing game. No.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 30 08:57:09 2014 No.1585565 File: 2.23 MB, 1500x1340, 1398862629722.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1559243 It's more like Spaghettinigma

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 30 17:16:33 2014 No.1586505 What are some good handheld RPGs?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 30 17:21:06 2014 No.1586513 >>1586505 Dragon Warrior III (GBC), Lufia - The Legend Returns (GBC), Final Fantasy Legend II (GB), Royal Stone (GG). That's all I can remember right now.

Anonymous Wed Apr 30 17:43:13 2014 No.1586554

>>1586505

GameBoy: Final Fantasy Legend / SaGa series, Final Fantasy Adventure / Seiken Densetsu / Mystic Quest, Dragon Warrior I & II bundle and Dragon Warrior III, Bomberman Quest, Ultima: Runes of Virtue series

Not really RPGs, but may be down your alley anyway: Battle of Olympus, Gargoyle's Quest, Kid Icarus: Of Myths and Monsters, handheld Zelda games

Game Gear: Dragon Crystal, Shining Force II: Sword of Hayja

That's all I can think of.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 30 19:59:09 2014 No.1586870 >>1585435 Yes. Especially considering how generic it was compared to the godly and unique Bomberman 64.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 1 06:05:10 2014 No.1588012 >>1586513 >>1586554 These games are great, but I'm searching for something more obscure.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 1 12:48:14 2014 No.1588421 >>1586870 They're two totally different types of games. BM64 is a BM game and BMH is like Crash. Crash with a sweet ass DnB soundtrack. Kind of like Super Magnetic Neo, but not painfully hard.

Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Thu May 1 18:04:10 2014 No.1589020

>>1585210
As you mentioned, Bomberman 64 is not really a platformer, it doesn't belong on the list. Speaking of platformer list, I think an update would be quite nice considering how small 32-bit/64-bit/arcade sections are. Anyone?

On the side note, I'm also thinking of making second ROM Hack thread/general since I think there's still some stuff that could be included.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 1 18:09:50 2014 No.1589035 >>1586554 Dragon Crystal isn't is not some RPG, you know. It's a dungeon crawler. There are no RPG elements besides equipping and unequipping various items. With all the dialogue boxes in it, Yoshi's Island is more an RPG than Dragon Crystal is.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 1 18:14:15 2014 No.1589049 >>1589035 >isn't is not Err... choose either "isn't" or "is not" here. Dunno what brain fart I was having to have typed both, apologies.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 1 18:19:40 2014 No.1589070 >>1589035 But isn't dungeon crawler/roguelike an RPG subgenre? It definitely counts.

Anonymous Thu May 1 18:27:52 2014 No.1589080

>>1589070
I wouldn't say so. Maybe others might. I'd say dungeon-crawling is not a subgenre of RPG but rather one of action/adventure.
It lacks the big important point of an RPG: a plot/story and dialogue. Neither exist in DC and I've owned that game on MS and GG both.

Anonymous Fri May 2 06:29:34 2014 No.1590445
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The Korean DOS RPG Mangguk Jeon'gi (망국전기), or Romance of The Forgotten Kingdom by Mirinae Software.

http://blog.hardcoregaming101.net/2011/11/romance-of-forgotten-kingdom-english.html

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Fri May 2 19:20:40 2014 No.1591618 >>1589070 >>1589080 And now, I have a problem: should I include dungeon crawlers/roguelikes? What do you think, guys?

Anonymous Fri May 2 21:51:04 2014 No.1591996

>>1589080
Dungeon-crawling/roguelike is RPG because you aren't actually fighting the enemies with your reflexes but by ordering your character(s) to attack with their stats. Action/adventure has you directly controlling the hero and killing the enemies

Although there are true hybrid games like the Seiken Densetsu series which can't be easily separated.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 3 06:36:23 2014 No.1592883 >>1590445 That's pretty neat. After having read the History of Korean Gaming article on HG101 I always wanted to try out some Korean RPGs.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 3 16:11:50 2014 No.1593838 Bump.

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Sun May 4 07:48:21 2014 No.1595621 Which translation is better: http://www.romhacking.net/translations/1429/ http://www.romhacking.net/translations/1428/

>>	Anonymous Sun May 4 07:57:10 2014 No.1595627 >>1595621 Aeon Genesis translation is incredibly literal, while Dynamic-Designs is a little more creative. It all comes down to personal preference.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 4 08:06:26 2014 No.1595637 File: 75 KB, 800x600, 1zqxzlj.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] has anyone compiled a list of co-op rpgs? i'm guessing it would be a significantly smaller list.

Anonymous Sun May 4 08:58:58 2014 No.1595686

>>1591996
No. RPG = Role Playing Game. If you want to use such a loose definition, then lets go a tad looser: nearly all games are RPGs because the player uses a player character in nearly all of them, so the player plays the role of Mario in the SMB series (making it an RPG), plays the role of Link in tLoZ (making it an RPG), plays the role of Samus in Metroid (making it an RPG) and plays the role of Pit in Kid Icarus (making it an RPG).
No. An RPG is a game where the plot, setting and story are central to the game experience. The plot, setting and story to Diablo, Rogue, Gauntlet and Dragon Crystal are entirely inconsequential. They are not RPGs.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 4 09:34:10 2014 No.1595759 File: 3 KB, 320x200, 2400-ad_7.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1560382 Another good one: 2400 A.D.

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Sun May 4 17:12:25 2014 No.1596772 >>1595627 D-D translation it is, then. I don't really like dry, literal translations.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 4 19:14:54 2014 No.1597069 Which is a better incarnation of FFV, GBA or PS1? (Ignoring loading times, which I don't care about.) I'm talking about if either one has glitches or anything negative/positive was added in either game.

Anonymous Sun May 4 19:17:53 2014 No.1597073

>>1597069
SFC with translation patch but barring that, as far as I understand, GBA is superior and introduces a few new jobs/classes and stuff.
I'm sure you can find /vr/others with opinions on either side of the fence so perhaps you should try all three and decide for yourself.

Anonymous Sun May 4 20:29:24 2014 No.1597232

>>1597069
GBA with sound restoration patch is you're best bet. Lots of errors with the snes translation (and one of the party members having their name changed randomly). Plus there's also extra content and an official translation.

the new ios version looks better in every way, except the character sprites/portraits (it's a love or hate thing)

>>	Anonymous Mon May 5 06:44:54 2014 No.1598323 Mystic Quest Legends is pretty amazing.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 5 06:52:41 2014 No.1598330 File: 39 KB, 220x400, ChouMakaiTaisenDorabocchanJPBoxShotSNES[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1579407 I'm hardly a weeaboo but this was the era when the US got shitty versions of the sweet original covers.

Anonymous Mon May 5 07:08:48 2014 No.1598350

>>1586505
Since this is /vr/ it'll be pretty much just GB/GBC.

Magi Nation, DQ3, SaGa 2, Azure Dreams, Revelations: The Demon Slayer, Dragon Quest Monsters, Pokemon obviously

>No. An RPG is a game where the plot, setting and story are central to the game experience.
So Monkey Island, Gone Home and Katawa Shoujo are RPGs now?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 5 18:32:00 2014 No.1599593 >>1598350 >DQM Is that obscure? I never see it being talked about.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 5 18:41:48 2014 No.1599614 >>1599593 Not that guy, but what about DWM2? I;ve never seen anyone talk about those games. I picked up the Tara version at a local shop and I really like it. I haven't played too far in because I've been stuck playing Contact.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 5 18:56:21 2014 No.1599646 >>1598350 Well, I should qualify with 'in addition to other gameplay mechanics,' but while I've never played or heard of those other two games you've mentioned, I've always thought of MI as belonging in the RPG category. Same with Snatcher.

Anonymous Mon May 5 19:22:27 2014 No.1599694

>>1599646
>I've always thought of MI as belonging in the RPG category. Same with Snatcher.
You've got it the wrong way buddy. Those are adventure games. You're right on the count that RPGs often incorporate adventure game elements in a liberal manner, but that's not their defining trait.

I've actually always thought of RPGs as being a hybrid genre of adventure and strategy (and sometimes, action). You've got the tacticizing and decision making from strategy games (and often even outright control multiple characters), but the whole game doesn't depend on isolated conflicts or "maps", but rather treats the battles as a small part of your whole conquest that also involves exploration and pretty much "storytelling", be it direct or created by the player's actions. In a game like Warcraft 3, how well you do on one map doesn't effect how you will do on another, only thing that matters is whether you won or not.

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Tue May 6 04:47:02 2014 No.1600906 >>1599614 I guess I can add them to the list. They are good games that deserve more recognition. Same with Mystic Quest Legend.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 6 09:50:47 2014 No.1601176 >>1559457 >Sylvan Tale Now that was an unexpectedly cool little game. It has this dark vibe of a dying world where there is no guarantee you will win and some good twists as you get near the end.

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Tue May 6 17:56:31 2014 No.1602301 >>1595637 As far as I know, no. Feel free to list them here, though.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 7 07:14:29 2014 No.1603809 >>1560542 Was its sequel ever translated into English?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 7 15:04:57 2014 No.1604609 I'm at work and I don't really have the time to open a new topic, and I figured this would be a good place to ask- how is The 7th Saga? I'm kind of interested in playing it.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 7 15:12:23 2014 No.1604619 >>1604609 Hard.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 7 18:27:25 2014 No.1605078 >>1604609 It's a nice RPG. Don't go in expecting Final Fantasy VI or Chrono Trigger tier quality, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 8 05:02:04 2014 No.1606501 bump

Anonymous Thu May 8 05:22:58 2014 No.1606510

>>1604609
Personally, I think it's crap. It's ambitious crap, but it's crap.

The US version is obscenely difficult. It was made harder, I don't know why, when the original game, a very grindy JRPG was already difficult enough. (It is entirely possible, if you choose a physically weak character, to struggle to get through your first few random encounters.)

Beyond that, it's just dull. There are some interesting monster designs here and there, but the overworld and dungeons are so monotonous and empty and plain. There's very little in terms of meaningful exploration, few secrets, and next to nothing in terms of atmosphere.

The ambitious part comes from the fact that there are seven characters all of which are in a Rat Race-style competition to control seven runestones MacGuffins. Late in the game, you'll need to hunt down and fight the other characters in order to collect all of them, and in some cases they'll appear to fight you.

All in all, it doesn't really offer any compelling reason to play. The combat is very dull, the story is lackluster (and includes a time loop plot device plucked straight out of Final Fantasy I), there's zero atmosphere...

... Lux Tizer is kinda cool, I guess. He's also one of the few characters who is almost fun to play as. His defense, being a big robot made of metal, is much better than everyone else's, and he has a few neat unique "spells" in the form of laser and electrical weaponry fired from his chest.

If you really want to play it, I think there's been a patch released that normalizes the difficulty level, but I have now become too lazy to Google that for you.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 8 18:16:32 2014 No.1607739 Crystalis.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 8 18:40:50 2014 No.1607784 >>1579387 Oooh I remember this game and it's one of my favourites! It's horribly complicated if you have to fight Esuna/Valsu/Olvan for the Rune. I hate the fact that they really overpower them if you level grind too much.

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Fri May 9 04:34:30 2014 No.1609065 >>1607739 Holy crap, I had no idea that it was ported to GBC. Shame it's a pretty bad port (especially the music).

>>	Anonymous Fri May 9 04:42:29 2014 No.1609075 >>1583302 Soulblazer's music was FUCKING AMAZING. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azA7YbrYn5k

>>	Anonymous Fri May 9 04:54:23 2014 No.1609095 >>1609075 >dat funky bass >dat trumpet Awwwwyiss.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 9 15:45:57 2014 No.1609897 So how close is the list to completion?

Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Fri May 9 16:29:37 2014 No.1610012 [DELETED]

>>1609897
That may sound funny, but I just started making it. I consider SNES, Mega Drive and DOS sections to be finished. I currently need more contributions from:

-NES
-SMS (Of course that is, if there are any RPGs on the system.)
-TG-16
-SEGA CD
-TG-CD
-PSX
-Saturn
-handhelds (GB, GG, WS)
-arcades?

There's also an issue of roguelikes/dungeon crawlers. I don't know if I should include them on the list or not.

Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Fri May 9 16:39:52 2014 No.1610027

That may sound funny, but I just started making it. I consider SNES, Mega Drive and DOS sections to be finished. I think this may be a good time for a short PSA

I need contributions from:

-NES
-SMS (Of course that is, if there are any RPGs on the system.)
-TG-16
-SEGA CD
-TG-CD
-PSX
-Saturn
-DC
-handhelds (GB, GG, WS)
-arcades?

Any help would be appreciated.

There's also an issue of roguelikes/dungeon crawlers, I don't know if I should include them on the list or not.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 9 16:40:12 2014 No.1610029 Lots of people talking about 7th saga here. I enjoyed the game, but I was never able to get into the semi-sequel "Mystic Ark" Has anyone here tried mystic ark, and if so how was it?

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Fri May 9 18:11:25 2014 No.1610169 >>1610029 >Mystic Ark I found it good.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 9 18:36:21 2014 No.1610210 File: 1.10 MB, 320x240, kid-dancing-o.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1609075 >mfw hearing this song

>>	Anonymous Fri May 9 20:41:48 2014 No.1610427 File: 82 KB, 391x293, shiren.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1610027 You definitely should include roguelikes. Stuff like Shiren the Wanderer and Azure Dreams are awesome.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 9 20:46:32 2014 No.1610429 File: 47 KB, 441x312, terranigma.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1609075 I really need to go back and finish the whole Quintet SNES trilogy. Those games were too good.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 9 23:38:32 2014 No.1610764 >>1610027 >There's also an issue of roguelikes/dungeon crawlers, I don't know if I should include them on the list or not. Depends: are there enough to make them a separate list?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 10 08:02:29 2014 No.1611335 Star Ocean

Anonymous Sat May 10 08:25:59 2014 No.1611356

After all this time, you guys are still saying that actraiser is a trilogy. It's a quadrilogy.

Actraiser
Soulblader
Gaia
Terranigma

Actraiser and Soulblazer are the only games in the series that have a narrative connection, and the same character is directly referenced. So if you're going to call it a 'trilogy' than the game you have to leave out is Terranigma, since it is the one that is least like the others.

There was also a fifth game called 'actraiser 2,' which has no connection to the series. If you enjoyed it, that's fine, but you can't argue that it retained the world-building theme, and thus you can't give a strong argument that it belongs in the series.

I'm seriously curious, where did you get this idea that there's a trilogy? There's obviously more than one of you that believes this. The overall most logical and normal way of saying it is that there are 5 games, some of which are more related than others.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 10 08:31:30 2014 No.1611365 Piling up entirely unrelated genres like JRPG, ARPG and SRPG is counterproductive. It's like making a somehow unified list of all action, horror and comedy films. Doesn't make much sense.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 10 09:55:56 2014 No.1611446 >>1611356 >I'm seriously curious, where did you get this idea that there's a trilogy? Calm down with the pedantry. It's one thing to clear up misconceptions, but another to be so obnoxious about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 10 09:58:15 2014 No.1611448 >>1611365 What do you think about inclusion of puzzle platformers and run n' guns on the platform list? It's pointless to create seperate lists for 10 or so games.

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Sat May 10 17:20:43 2014 No.1612319 >>1610764 Right now, I've got 5 of them.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 10 18:13:41 2014 No.1612438 I have a snes platformer to add it's called Ghost Sweeper Mikami - Joreishi wa Nice Body also another good snes platformer is Musya

Anonymous Sat May 10 18:25:30 2014 No.1612462
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Even though it was mentioned earlier in the thread, I will second Bahamut Lagoon for anyone who hasn't taken the dive yet.

Never has a game ever made me feel so justified in uttering the words "No. I hope you die. I hope we both die. The world can go to hell" at the end. It was a magical experience.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 10 18:49:58 2014 No.1612505 >>1610169 how so? could you comment more on why the game is good?

Anonymous Sat May 10 22:41:54 2014 No.1612893

You guys should totally play Glory of Heracles III. Of special note to /vr/, one of the writers for FFVII got his job because of his work on the plot for it. And yes there are some simularities in it. Fan Translation: http://www.romhacking.net/translations/967/

>>1612505
Not him, but it's interesting. It's easier than 7th Saga, isn't exactly related to it at all, and has this very interesting dreamlike setting to it. I'm surprised not many people actually talk about it due to the story, it's pretty out there in presentation.

Anonymous Sun May 11 02:57:04 2014 No.1613260

>>1612893
I was turned off by Mystic Ark very quickly.

I mean, the first scenario is so bland and empty, and I found myself needing to constantly grind. And then I got into a fight with two monsters that could heal each other and they just keep wailing on me and healing each other before I could finish off either. I didn't bother playing any further.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 11 02:58:28 2014 No.1613262 >>1612462 I tried playing it ages ago but never got into it because there wasnt a translation patch.

Anonymous Sun May 11 03:14:40 2014 No.1613273

>>1611356
The reason that Actraiser isn't usually included when people refer to a "Gaia Trilogy" is that it has very different play and presentation compared to the other three, all of which are top-down action RPGs with a fairly uniform manga aesthetic. Actraiser, while similar in theme, is a side-scrolling action game (well, when it isn't a sim) with a more "realistic" look. The "trilogy" is also far more character-driven, with the protagonist directly speaking to other characters rather than simply receiving messages from them.

As for Terranigma, it IS The Illusion of Gaia 2. This is confirmed when you access a secret area of the game and a character informs you that they will immortalize Ark in a game called "The Illusion of Gaia 2."

Moreover, there IS a direct connection between The Illusion of Gaia and Soul Blazer. If you collect all fifty red gems, you are brought to an area where you battle Solid Arm, who informs Will that he is stronger than the Soul Blazer.

Myself, I tend to think of SB, IoG, and Terranigma as a trilogy.

Anonymous Sun May 11 03:43:28 2014 No.1613297

>>1611356
>>1613273

They aren't a trilogy. They just share similar themes. You can argue the whole Red Gem thing in Illusion of Gaia, but that can be chalked up to an easter egg.

About the only thing in common is like resurecting the world and shit (which you don't really do in illusion of gaia, yet its regarded as the fucking keystone in the trilogy), then fighting "Dark Gaia" or in the case of Soul blazer/Actraiser some other named big bad.

I don't think of them as a trilogy. I think of them as independent games from the same developer who used similar themes. Usually a trilogy has some kind of link between the games, a recurring character, the same world, that kind of thing, but the games just don't do it.

You could think of it as a Zelda-timeline type thing, but fuck that.

Anonymous Sun May 11 04:19:45 2014 No.1613352
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>>1610027
Here are a few for TG-CD, this system had a lot of great JRPGs but unfortunately there aren't a whole lot of fan-translations for them.

Ys Book I & II
Not obscure, but this version of the game isn't talked about much anymore. It's release in the US was pretty revolutionary, being one of the very first games to have CD quality audio and excellent voice acting.

Ys IV: Dawn of Ys
One of the select few fan-translated games on this system. It's an entirely different game than Ys IV: Mask of the Sun on the SNES, and a lot better.

Far East of Eden: Tengai Makyou II Manjimaru(Untranslated)
This game was the most expensive game project back in 1992, and was extremely popular in Japan. Over 50 hours long even if you know Japanese.

Far East of Eden: Tengai Makyou Fuun Kabuki Den(Untranslated)
The character Kabuki from TMII was so popular he got his very own game. Shorter, but a lot more fast-paced and one of the very best looking games on this system.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 11 04:28:56 2014 No.1613368 >>1613273 Illusion of Gaia/Time 2? Only in English and Spanish. In Japanese, French, and German, it's the actual name of the game.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 11 06:37:52 2014 No.1613462 Alundra. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=_46V1hB07H4

>>	Anonymous Sun May 11 10:56:15 2014 No.1613774 File: 129 KB, 250x234, 250px-Time_Stalkers_Coverart.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun May 11 11:12:29 2014 No.1613797 >>1613774 The best thing about that game is the connections with Shining Force, Shining in the Darkness and Landstalker.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 11 11:16:41 2014 No.1613805 >>1613262 What are you talking about? It got translated around 2000, it's been translated for over a decade.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 11 11:21:01 2014 No.1613815 >>1564106 Immortal.

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Sun May 11 18:07:09 2014 No.1614631 >>1613352 >Far East of Eden These two look amazing, it's a shame they haven't been translated yet.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 11 19:51:36 2014 No.1614916 >>1613774 Was this game even any good?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 12 08:27:28 2014 No.1616184 What do you think of Ghost Lion for the NES?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 12 16:36:35 2014 No.1617028 >>1614916 From what I've heard it's shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 12 16:39:45 2014 No.1617036 >>1611356 This guy thinks Granstream Saga is part of them http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/quintet/quintet4.htm

>>	Anonymous Mon May 12 16:41:39 2014 No.1617043 >>1606510 http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/264/

>>	Anonymous Mon May 12 16:43:10 2014 No.1617048 >>1617036 What about Orphen for the PS2?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 12 16:43:57 2014 No.1617049 >>1617048 Not retro; I don't care

>>	Anonymous Mon May 12 16:51:53 2014 No.1617069 >>1617048 Not retro and fucking AWFUL.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 12 17:00:27 2014 No.1617093 >>1617049 >>1617069 I was making a joke. It's only tangentially related at best. And not retro.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 12 17:04:47 2014 No.1617105 >>1580302 working designs wanted to translate this game, though I think they wanted to release it for the PlayStation, but where laughed out of the room basically.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 12 17:09:12 2014 No.1617113 >>1580426 >tfw can't into moon

Anonymous Mon May 12 23:54:40 2014 No.1618046

Hey OP, if you're still around, mind maybe posting a placeholder link to the pastebin for this even if you're not entirely finished yet (assuming pastebins still retain the same URL even when edited; haven't used them myself so I'm not sure)? Unless you plan to add it to the rest of those pastebins if you make a thread like this for another genre. Just wouldn't want to see the thread die without having a link to it for future reference.

>>1595637
The main ones that come to mind for me (if you're actually asking for some ideas or something), as far as /vr/ related RPGs go, are the Mana series and Tales series (especially Eternia/Destiny II due to various refinements to the fluidity of combat that make co-oping the game a lot of fun), and even these days, decent co-op JRPGs are kind of rare even on more modern systems. I'm sure there's more than those out there though.

Anonymous Tue May 13 01:48:13 2014 No.1618228
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This thread has been really helpful. I'm getting stationed in Japan and my only piece of personal tech is going to be my Android tablet. I'm going through and loading it up with the ROMs that you guys are suggesting.

Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Tue May 13 11:42:49 2014 No.1618843

>>1618046
>mind maybe posting a placeholder link to the pastebin for this even if you're not entirely finished yet (assuming pastebins still retain the same URL even when edited; haven't used them myself so I'm not sure)?

Unfortunately, the URL changes every time you edit a paste.

>Unless you plan to add it to the rest of those pastebins if you make a thread like this for another genre. Just wouldn't want to see the thread die without having a link to it for future reference.

I want to make a second ROM hack thread as the list is a bit sparse. If I won't (which is unlikely) then you can always check The Foolz Archive or make a thread with a request. I remember there was a thread in which someone requested link to the beat'em up list. Needless to say, I was flattered.

Anonymous Tue May 13 12:57:58 2014 No.1618943
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Has anyone tried Energy Breaker yet? I've had it in my backlog for a while, and haven't heard much of it.

Also not related to the game, but any other RPGs where you make your own cast/party?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 13:25:05 2014 No.1618984 >>1618943 I played quite a bit of it ages ago before it was translated, it was OK. I've been meaning to play it now that it is but I keep putting it off.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 13:43:03 2014 No.1619012 >>1612893 >Glory of Heracles III Isn't this one of those games that is extremely popular in Japan but not here? That would most likely be because of the lack of translation up until now, but it's too bad this series was never ported over.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 14:43:22 2014 No.1619137 >>1619012 I think there's a DS one.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 14:53:14 2014 No.1619150 >>1614916 Great concept, terrible execution. I bought it because I saw that Nigel from Landstalker was in it.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 15:11:32 2014 No.1619193 >>1576645 The armor ring bug blew my tiny mind. I thought I was so clever.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 15:17:06 2014 No.1619210 >>1569454 Good taste, anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 15:46:48 2014 No.1619274 >>1579945 God I was addicted to that game as a kid.

Anonymous Tue May 13 16:06:38 2014 No.1619321

>>1569457

>pick this up for shits and giggles when i first upgraded to PSX
>dat opening

That shit right there made me want to learn to play guitar simply so I could strum that shit out anytime I wanted. Fuck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrDV6VksSRU

>>	Anonymous Tue May 13 16:14:03 2014 No.1619346 File: 198 KB, 512x445, 35399-Soul_Blazer_(USA)-3[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is Soul Blazer underrated? if so well..This.

Anonymous Tue May 13 18:13:13 2014 No.1619638

>>1618843
Cool. I'll keep that in mind.

>>1619012
There was a single Glory of Heracles game (the DS one) that got localized. It was made after Data East went under by a new team (Paon), but they still brought in the guy who wrote the scenarios for II, III, and IV to do the scenario for it.

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Wed May 14 07:24:56 2014 No.1620998 >>1619193 I still remember these white ninjas that could permanently reduce your stats.

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Wed May 14 18:24:31 2014 No.1622046 >>1616184 It's better than your usual Dragon Quest clone. I liked the setting, it is rather unique and charming.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 21:35:36 2014 No.1622482 bamp moddafocka

>>	Anonymous Wed May 14 23:44:20 2014 No.1622778 >>1617105 I heard that Atlus USA wanted to but Sony were really against it

>>	Anonymous Thu May 15 13:14:37 2014 No.1623546 no love for the suikoden series? the first 2 were incredible for thier time.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 15 13:46:02 2014 No.1623585 >>1623546 relatively speaking, they're neither underrated nor obscure (among RPG fans) like most of the games mentioned here.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 15 17:53:10 2014 No.1624048 What about the Secret of Evermore?

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Fri May 16 09:33:35 2014 No.1625407 >>1624048 Great game, but not really underrated in my opinion.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 16 09:49:01 2014 No.1625425 You know, it'd be cool if someone made a gauntlet with these lists.

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Fri May 16 18:09:18 2014 No.1626207 >>1625425 You know what, it is a pretty cool idea.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 17 06:09:34 2014 No.1627347 What about Faria,then?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 17 10:06:10 2014 No.1627548 >>1627347 Do you want to actually talk about these, or just keep tossing out names?

Anonymous Sat May 17 12:58:48 2014 No.1627769

>>1627347
Man, all I rememeber about Faria was it was a game that had a female protag in an RPG during a time when that wasn't common, and the first major quest of the game is to hunt down a princess they try to tell you they'll offer her hand in marriage if you rescue her but ultimately end up refusing, and give you an outdated photo of her to find her with.

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Sat May 17 17:04:03 2014 No.1628289 >>1627347 That's better. Is the the one where the queen is revealed to be a giant worm?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 17 18:14:43 2014 No.1628457 >>1628289 Sometimes people wonder why we have spoiler tags on the retro vidya board since the games are so old. They should wonder no more.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 18 04:40:53 2014 No.1629520 >>1627548 I just want to contribute to the list.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 18 10:00:56 2014 No.1629858 >>1628289 >That's better. Is the the one where the queen is revealed to be a giant worm? literally lmao at this

>>	Anonymous Sun May 18 10:39:04 2014 No.1629901 >>1566380 Dungeon crawlers are rpgs you fucking retard.

Anonymous Sun May 18 10:58:29 2014 No.1629914

>>1629901
I guess Gauntlet and Rogue are RPGs, then! So're Double Dungeons and Tower of Druaga! Yup! Cuz all that makes something an RPG is a game in which the player plays a role! That's right! Super Mario? RPG! You play the role of Mario! Metroid? RPG! You play the role of Samus! Kirby's Dreamland! Duh: it's an RPG! You play the role of Kirby!!

Yup. Everything is an RPG, despite the fact that plot and storytelling are integral to RPG gameplay and entirely unnecessary in most dungeon crawlers. Cuz you said. Uhuh. And the other guy's the fucking retard. Yes. Not you. Him. Mhmm. That's right.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 18 12:15:30 2014 No.1629991 >>1629914 Your autism is showing, and it's not pretty. Also dungeon crawlers are RPGs, Rogue is a goddamn RPG, but gauntlet is not. Should I replace those two names with Diablo and The Chaos Engine just to get across how fucking stupid you are?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 18 12:25:54 2014 No.1630012 >>1629991 >Diablo is an RPG Diablo is a Dungeon Crawler RPG. It's a hybrid game. Do you really not understand the difference? Do you think the original Legend of Zelda is an RPG, too?

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Mon May 19 04:05:07 2014 No.1631790 >>1628457 Oops, I didn't think about putting that in spoilers. Sorry. I'm looking for PSX RPGs now. Any recommendations?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 19 04:12:01 2014 No.1631797 File: 275 KB, 1000x1000, TobalNo1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tobal No.1 on PS. Quest mode outshines the rest of the game and has one of the best grappling systems ever.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 19 15:11:37 2014 No.1632486 >>1628457 >>1628289 >>1629858 I don't know, it sure makes me want to play it.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 19 15:31:56 2014 No.1632521 >>1631797 That game was shit

Anonymous Mon May 19 16:06:05 2014 No.1632565

>>1631790
Guardian's Crusade is alright, albeit really easy.

Thousand Arms is another decent one. Featured kind of a neat dating sim mechanic where your and your party members would get stronger from your relationships.

Beyond The Beyond was at least okay, if I remember correctly.

There's also Shadow Madness, which was a US attempt at making a game like FF7.

Anonymous Tue May 20 03:03:51 2014 No.1633838

>>1632565
>US attempt at making a game like FF7
Another was Septerra Core for Windows, which was a sort of fusion of Western CRPG, FF7, and Chrono Trigger.

Sony themselves did Legend of Dragoon as their own FF7 clone but that's not even close to obscure.

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Tue May 20 16:16:14 2014 No.1634792 I'm still working on the list, if anyone's wondering. I would like to see more contributions from handhelds, PSX and Saturn as these sections are in dire need of contributions.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 20 18:14:52 2014 No.1635008 >>1633838 >Sony themselves did Legend of Dragoon as their own FF7 clone but that's not even close to obscure. It's utterly shit though.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 20 20:12:41 2014 No.1635308 >>1632486 >I don't know, it sure makes me want to play it. I'm 1629858, and it absolutely made me want to play it.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 20 21:30:50 2014 No.1635492 >>1635008 Shadow Madness and Septerra Core weren't exactly masterpieces themselves.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 21 04:01:53 2014 No.1636170 Was Langare Point ever translated into English?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 21 04:29:37 2014 No.1636210 >>1636170 Lagrange Point? No, but Aeon Genesis confirmed last year that a translation patch is still being worked on.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 21 04:36:55 2014 No.1636221 >>1632565 Holy fuck, Someone else knows what Shadow Madness is, I'm actually so fucking happy right now

>>	Anonymous Wed May 21 19:03:45 2014 No.1637403 bump

>>	Anonymous Thu May 22 12:09:27 2014 No.1638878 Racketboy's hidden gems articles have some good games listed.

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Thu May 22 18:26:08 2014 No.1639654 >>1638878 I'll be sure to check that site out, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 23 04:01:34 2014 No.1640648 bump for interest

>>	Anonymous Fri May 23 05:36:08 2014 No.1640726 feda emblem of justice. surprisingly it's been mentioned already. Now you too can relive the glory of shining force quality rpg's you loved so much as a kid.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 23 11:33:34 2014 No.1641019 Is phantasy star 4 too main stream? 3 was literally unfinished trahs and 1 and 2 have problems but 4 is top tier

EdwardEmersonBarnard Fri May 23 16:06:17 2014 No.1641374

Is the Exile series (by Spiderweb Software) obscure/underrated enough? I don't know, but I don't see it mentioned in the thread, so here goes nothing. Mind you, I haven't actually played the Exile games itself: I know the series through the slightly more modern remake and extension series, Avernum. Huge, oh-so-detailed game world, consistent, interesting lore, smooth game mechanics and a very satisfying sense of progress throughout the game. I hear that Exile was much of the same, except for different combat and party mechanics.

But, man, anyone trying to talk about the Spiderweb Software games is in for a bad time. The Avernum and Geneforge series are probably too old and obscure for the main gaming boards, but too new for the retro one (as even the earliest Avernum game is from the year 2000).

>>	Anonymous Fri May 23 20:36:32 2014 No.1641915 >>1611356 LOL. You are a fool.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 24 03:58:33 2014 No.1642867 >>1611356 >quadrilogy This word is an abomination. I say this as someone who bought the Alien Quadrilogy DVD set when it was new, so yeah, I'm a retard. Anyway, the etymologically-consistent word is "tetralogy.'

>>	Anonymous Sat May 24 04:19:27 2014 No.1642883 >>1641374 RPGCodex loves Spiderweb.

>>	EdwardEmersonBarnard Sat May 24 05:10:29 2014 No.1642934 >>1642883 You tricked me into going there and checking. How could you?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 24 18:31:58 2014 No.1643949 bump

>>	Anonymous Sun May 25 05:23:06 2014 No.1644954 I have a question: Are there any good N64 RPGs besides Paper Mario and Ogre Battle?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 25 05:25:53 2014 No.1644957 >>1644954 Holy Magic Century is good.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 25 05:49:59 2014 No.1644985 File: 422 KB, 640x480, mah_bro.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1559457 >Someone else here has heard of FEDA: The Emblem of Justice

Anonymous Sun May 25 06:18:55 2014 No.1645006
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>>1559457
>FEDA: The Emblem of Justice
if you say this, you have to recommend Shining Force 1&2, since they preceed FEDA and share same talent in staff

>>1644985
I know that feel, bro.
>mfw there will never be another FEDA game, let alone one involving the REAL war on the main continent

>>	Anonymous Sun May 25 09:21:40 2014 No.1645146 >>1634792 Thanks, I thought this was already dropped.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 25 10:55:55 2014 No.1645247 >>1568279 >Record of Lodoss War That fucking elevator man. So many runs. Still, 9/10 would play again.

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Sun May 25 18:42:12 2014 No.1646120 >>1645146 No problem, I hate making empty promises.. University takes most of my free time, that's why it's taking so long.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 25 19:31:31 2014 No.1646239 >>1632521 I will fight you right now, anon.

Anonymous Sun May 25 19:54:04 2014 No.1646285
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This shit right here.

It barely had RPG elements in it, but it was an adventure, I got really immersed in this in my childhood, and the soundtrack is pretty amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mqVrKTFCwc&list=PL6BA97DBB16EB0193

Anonymous Mon May 26 02:57:31 2014 No.1647087

>>1634792

For PSX

Arc the Lad 1 (Tactical RPG)
Arc the Lad 2 (Tactical RPG)
Arc the Lad 3 (Tactical RPG)
Brave Fencer Musashi (Action RPG)
Deception: Invitation to Darkness (Strategy RPG)
Kagero: Deception II (Strategy RPG)
Deception III: Dark Delusion (Strategy RPG)
Dragon Valor (Action RPG)
Eternal Eyes (Tactical RPG)
Legend of Lagaia (RPG)
Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure (Tactical RPG)
Vandal Hearts (Tactical RPG)
Vandal Hearts II (Tactical RPG)

To be honest, I haven't played any of these games.

These are just a bunch of PSX RPGs I grabbed from Underground Gamer back in the day that I had planned to get around to playing some time.

I'm sure you'd prefer first hand experience with any of these, but since none of these were mentioned yet I figured I might as well throw them out there to see if they jog the memory of anyone else around here.

Anonymous Mon May 26 03:10:58 2014 No.1647117

>>1568279
Holy fuck, it's rare you see this game mentioned and I was just thinking about it not three minutes ago.

Record of Lodoss War, Xanadu Next, and Elemental Gimmick Gear are all excellent games that are somewhere between Diablo and Zelda, with the latter getting more like Zelda and the former more like Diablo.

Anonymous Mon May 26 08:08:16 2014 No.1647374

Dual Orb 2 for the SNES is a pretty obscure RPG, can't remember if it's very good though since it's been like 10+ years since I played it. The encounter rate was damn high though, I used a lot of fast forward.

I guess the first Dual Orb is even less known, never played that one though.

Also Tengai Makyou Zero (mostly known as Far East of Eden Zero in the west?), also for the SNES, is a very nice game, though this one has quite a lot of random battles too, and no translation patch available. It's got some pretty interesting usage of day/night cycles based on real time, and events available only on certain days of the week and even of the year. Very Japanese setting though, no wonder translators had so many problems with it. Also had really nice graphics and music.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 26 18:05:06 2014 No.1648504 >>1644957 Isn't that a Boulder Dash clone?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 00:03:48 2014 No.1649214 Has Vanguard Bandits been mentioned yet? Its FF Tactics with Mecha.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 00:53:25 2014 No.1649294 >>1649214 Oooo Vanguard Bandits. I remember enjoying this. Fairly solid game with diverging storylines. The soundtrack was good too.

Anonymous Tue May 27 07:15:27 2014 No.1649690
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>>1647087
>Arc the Lad 1 (Tactical RPG)
>Arc the Lad 2 (Tactical RPG)
>Arc the Lad 3 (Tactical RPG)

Oh yeah. I finished the Collection a couple days ago and was amazed at how good it was, especially ATL2. And all that content, dear god. How come it's not more popular?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 07:53:56 2014 No.1649714 You know what'd be cool If there were underrated game sets that you could actually download

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 14:22:18 2014 No.1650123 >>1635008 I loved it.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 22:13:27 2014 No.1651145 Been playing 100 World Story: The Tales on a Watery Wilderness. This thing is neat as shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 22:24:01 2014 No.1651170 >>1569457 About Wild Arms. Can I just finish the whole game playing as just one character or not ?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 22:41:22 2014 No.1651221 >>1651145 I've heard talk of games like that and Sugoro Quest. So it's basically like Mario Party except instead of mini games it's a full-fledged RPG with quests and all? Does it have Multiplayer?

Anonymous Tue May 27 22:55:31 2014 No.1651254

>>1649714
Someone on /v/ a few years back (before /vr/ was made) did a compilation pack of SNES rpgs for download, both popular and underrated ones, if that's what you mean. I think that it could probably be pretty easy for someone to make some, as long as they're for systems where the actual individual game file size winds up fairly small. Might be kind of hard to do for more advanced systems like the Playstation though.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 23:07:08 2014 No.1651278 >>1651170 If you mean how it starts out from each character's perspective and explaining their stake in going out into the world, not to my knowledge, since they all kind of meet up early on.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 27 23:08:42 2014 No.1651283 >>1567554 I found a copy of this with a strategy guide for $15 at some local comic shop. Was the happiest find.

Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Wed May 28 05:45:03 2014 No.1651851

>>1649714
Every one of these sets would be few gigabytes big. The racing game set alone would weigh around 30-40 GB. My upload speed is simply too slow for this kind of stuff. Plus, some of these games are available for purchase on VC/PSN/XBLA.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 17:57:24 2014 No.1652942 bump

>>	Anonymous Wed May 28 18:04:29 2014 No.1652965 >>1651221 100 World Story does, but SG doesn't. They also have different feels in combat and execution because they are definitely not the same game, so they're both worth playing.

Anonymous Thu May 29 03:45:45 2014 No.1654242
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Since I didn't see anyone mention it, Emerald Dragon on the SNES is a neat rpg. It's a little different in that you move characters to attack enemies by contact, but it's turn based and you can use spells. I have yet to see a combat system quite like it. Plus, the MC is a dragon.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 08:58:59 2014 No.1654530 >>1610027 >There's also an issue of roguelikes/dungeon crawlers, I don't know if I should include them on the list or not. You should probably include them, but maybe put them in their own separate section.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 10:16:52 2014 No.1654650 This.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydlide

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 10:20:27 2014 No.1654657 >>1654242 Ys series has similar combat

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 10:27:44 2014 No.1654665 >>1654650 Luner grp series Eternal Eyes

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 10:30:37 2014 No.1654670 >>1654650 Lunar rpg series Eternal Eyes

Anonymous Thu May 29 11:25:56 2014 No.1654738

I've been playing Metal Max Returns and I must say....DAMN, WHAT A GOOD GAME, any anon who hasn't played this yet is missing on some really good RPG.

I just hope that it doesn't have a "Best ending" that is extremely hard to get and doesn't give any hint to the players, like Harvest Moon on the SNES. Seriously, how can someone figure out by yourslef? Has anyone here managed to do that(or similar)?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 11:32:39 2014 No.1654743 >>1561917 kinda reminds me of Maniac Mansion.

Anonymous Thu May 29 12:02:17 2014 No.1654764

>>1654738
Haven't played it yet myself, but it does make me wish that Metal Max 2 was translated already, as I've heard a lot of good stuff about the series in general. Also shame that we didn't wind up seeing more of the games in the series in English, be they officially localized or fan translated.

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Thu May 29 18:24:10 2014 No.1655513 >>1654650 Isn't every game in this series, like, awful?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 29 18:49:14 2014 No.1655557 Parasite Eve isn't super under-rated but it kicks fucking ass.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 30 00:31:25 2014 No.1656202 >>1655513 But the soundtracks weren't..lol

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Fri May 30 17:58:04 2014 No.1657935 >>1652965 >100 World Story I was looking for that game! Thanks for mentioning it.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 08:45:53 2014 No.1659312 Bump

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Sat May 31 16:44:07 2014 No.1660025 >>1654530 I have a question: Are there enough obscure retro dungeon crawlers to make a full-fledged list? I haven't looked into that yet myself.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 31 17:58:59 2014 No.1660245 File: 17 KB, 256x224, monstania4[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1559457 Absolutely based. Thanks! My person recommendation is Monstania. You can probably complete it in an afternoon or two, and the combat is simple but fun.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 01:38:15 2014 No.1661206 The DemiKids games were pretty good on GBA.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 01:54:39 2014 No.1661237 >>1654242 Other games from Glodia use the same system.

Anonymous Sun Jun 1 01:57:17 2014 No.1661242

>>1654657
>>1661237
I didn't mean just bumping into enemies to attack, I meant the mixture of that plus turn based combat. Movement is limited in turns and actions cause the character to lose movement "points" until their next turn. I don't think Ys had quite that, and I've not heard of Glodia.

Anonymous Sun Jun 1 02:15:44 2014 No.1661285

>>1661242

Glodia is the original developer of Emerald Dragon, that was released originally on japanese computers in 1989. The PC Engine CD and Super Famicom versions are enhanced ports made by other companies, and have some changes here and there in the story and just a little bit in the gameplay in the Super Famicom version.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 13:18:15 2014 No.1662125 Brave Fencer Musashi should be on the list.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 15:48:16 2014 No.1662372 Dicing Knight for WS Color

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 16:09:49 2014 No.1662405 >>1559457 >silva saga 2 If you liked DQ3's system, it's prequels are worth playing as well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 1 17:29:25 2014 No.1662612 >>1561917 I just finished the game, it's awesome they came up with that in 1989

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 06:42:21 2014 No.1664012 >>1662612 Well, it was adapted from a horror movie of the same name. It wasn't an original concept.

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Mon Jun 2 18:01:55 2014 No.1665184 >>1569449 I've been playing this recently, and to be honest, it's pretty good. I expected it to be much worse.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 18:42:44 2014 No.1665326 http://www.codiekitty.com/File/SuitoHomu/index.htm What a coincidence, I was just reading this thing when I noticed this thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 23:45:21 2014 No.1666126 File: 655 KB, 1195x652, piersolar01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Question! Is this considered /vr/?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 23:49:23 2014 No.1666140 >>1666126 We just had a thread about it yesterday, look it up at the foolz archive. Most people didn't seem to care about that game at all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 2 23:50:10 2014 No.1666143 >>1666126 Homebrew and Romhacks are as far as I'm aware, so yes because it's still a member of the console library.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 14:38:58 2014 No.1667264 Are Lufia games obscure?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 15:42:34 2014 No.1667354 >>1667264 not really, imho

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 3 15:44:28 2014 No.1667358 >>1666126 1. No. 2. It's terrible and unnecessary.

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Wed Jun 4 05:44:15 2014 No.1668740 >>1666126 Is it any good? I remember that there was a lot of hype surrounding it back in the day.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 4 09:52:34 2014 No.1668987 >>1668740 It's not. Beggar Prince is way better.

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Wed Jun 4 18:30:20 2014 No.1670019 >>1668987 I see, so the only reason that SP got hyped was because it got a retail release.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 5 04:15:03 2014 No.1671196 >>1576670 >tfw nobody to talk about Summon Night games Also Black Matrix falls into the same category.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 5 06:44:51 2014 No.1671383 >>1559243 >terranigma will never get a sequel >terranigma will never be romhacked feels bad man

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 5 18:40:23 2014 No.1672587 bump

Anonymous Thu Jun 5 19:06:09 2014 No.1672649

Glad to see this thread is still alive, per recommendation from >>1562576 I'm playing Brave Battle Saga but I'm experimenting audio glitches, basically when I load the game sometimes I get sound effects during batle but sometimes I don't, and when I do get sound effects the audio quality is kinda scratchy, I wanted to see if I'm the only one? When I load the rom Fusion complains about a bad cheksum but afaik that's normal with fan translations so I dunno. I am using Fusion Version 3.64 btw.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 5 21:44:49 2014 No.1672983 >>1671383 It doesn't need either

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 5 21:49:06 2014 No.1672995 >>1672649 Never mind that, been unable to replicate it after rebooting my machine, whatever.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 6 15:32:01 2014 No.1674467 I just got Arcanum downloaded from GoG since I bought it from the insomniac sale. Anything I should do to it before playing? Like patches and mods?

Anonymous Fri Jun 6 15:50:57 2014 No.1674513
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>>1569170
Absolutely seconding this, shouldn't go unnoticed. It was actually called Super Drakken in Japan, but it's way less obtuse and weird than it's predecessor. Has a charming localization job too, kind of a pseudo Ted Woolsey / Working Designs dialogue.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 6 17:45:25 2014 No.1674750 Any games in this thread with actual character specialization every level (like an RPG) or are they just a bunch of shitty adventure games with numbers that go up?

Anonymous Fri Jun 6 17:53:13 2014 No.1674775

>>1674513
This game is fucking awesome, but at the same time its a buggy mess.

I remember once playing on my SNES and I walked through a door in some temple and it fucking took me to the credits after some wierd shit.

Then i tried on emulator a few years ago and got a similar thing.

Fun as fuck if it doesn't decide to end early for you though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 6 17:58:29 2014 No.1674795 >>1674775 last boss is a door

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Sat Jun 7 08:23:41 2014 No.1676090 OK, so the list is almost ready, I just need more Saturn and Dreamcast games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 7 11:28:52 2014 No.1676291 >>1672983 i disagree

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Sat Jun 7 18:14:07 2014 No.1677058 >>1676090 bump for that

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 8 00:06:42 2014 No.1677754 >>1660245 It also has a pretty awesome soundtrack. Nobuyuki Iwadare is a really good composer.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 8 02:55:09 2014 No.1677981 >>1647117 Xanadu Next was fucking awesome. The game that renewed my faith in the box pushing puzzle. Basically what if Ys was Diablo

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 8 03:21:29 2014 No.1678006 >>1583302 2d Dark Cloud is a great game

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 8 03:28:00 2014 No.1678016 >>1614631 There's a PS2 remake by Hudsonsoft apparently. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj2d5QaIs5U

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 8 16:17:07 2014 No.1679195 I'm playing Zelda II right now. Definitely not obscure, but everyone who likes it knows it's under-rated. I was playing with my bro-bro, today.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 8 19:00:38 2014 No.1679551 File: 28 KB, 329x484, LSF_cover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The Legend of Sword and Fairy is never talked about here. Shame that it is a good chinese rpg.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 8 19:14:40 2014 No.1679567 >>1679551 Talk about underrated, I've always felt painted Chinese manhua cover art never got any love in the West. Probably lack of translation and interest.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 8 19:55:44 2014 No.1679670 >>1679551 Well, the good news is that the first part got an official japanese release in Saturn, but that's the only game that was translated. You can look for the game as Senken Kigyouden.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 9 11:48:38 2014 No.1680575 Bump

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 9 17:52:41 2014 No.1681146 >>1678006 Care to elaborate? The only Dark Cloud game I can find is on PS2 and isn't 2D

Anonymous Mon Jun 9 18:50:57 2014 No.1681242

>>1681146
Soul Blazer, a 2D SNES ARPG, consists of a lot of diving into dungeons to collect sealed parts of a broken world, which are then restored to where they were outside. The only thing Soul Blazer doesn't have that Dark Cloud does, not counting the missing z axis, is customizability when restoring freed world parts.

Anonymous Tue Jun 10 12:49:42 2014 No.1682383
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>>1647087

Started and finished Arc the Lad 1, 2 and 3 between the time this was posted and now. It's been awhile since I had this much fun with a SRPG, especially with the second game. Too bad we never got the Wonderswan game, it takes place years after Arc3 and has a lot of returning characters.

Not retro, but are the PS2 games any good? And are they connected with earlier games?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 09:41:24 2014 No.1684138 >>1681242 Oh, now I feel stupid.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 17:29:17 2014 No.1684652 What's the progress on the list?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 17:36:51 2014 No.1684663 Second

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 11 17:37:54 2014 No.1684665 >>1684652 Second

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 12 03:49:19 2014 No.1685627 Shin Megami Tensei 1 & 2 for the SNES. You get to even kill the Abrahamic God at the end of 2.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 12 03:57:00 2014 No.1685631 File: 96 KB, 608x751, 1-romssaga3boxstuff[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Romancing saga 3 is in my opinion one of the most underrated RPGs ever, it has a great battle system and the music is extremely good.

Anonymous Thu Jun 12 07:34:14 2014 No.1685793

OP, if your list doesn't have SaGa Frontier on it, I'll kick your ass.

>Unique entry in the SaGa series
>Save at any point outside of battles/cutscenes
>Build your party from ~30 characters
>Heal after each battle, mitigates typical annoying RPG item juggling
>Flavorful and brilliant world
>Multiple converging storylines
>Unique battle system
>Sound track is 10/10

I hardly see threads for it, too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 12 14:03:17 2014 No.1686326 >>1679551 doesn't this have multiple television series based on it?

Anonymous Thu Jun 12 14:08:23 2014 No.1686334

>>1685631
It's a bit obscure in the West (pretty obscure if you're talking the "FF7 and CT are the only JRPGs" mainstream), but it's by no means underrated and is absolutely not "one of the most". If it's got a fantranslation it's not "one of the most obscure" anything.

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Fri Jun 13 05:34:08 2014 No.1687941 >>1684652 >>1684665 >>1676090 >>1685627 I wouldn't call Megami Tensei games obscure. The series has become a lot more known because of Persona 4.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 13 05:57:34 2014 No.1687965 >>1632521 I agree. Total ass. I regretted paying for that game as a child, but the FF7 demo disc was worth it.

Anonymous Fri Jun 13 16:47:40 2014 No.1688663
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>>1644954
Hybrid Heaven. The battle system is incredibly unique and hard to master. You have to chain combos together and has a grappling system that feels like something out of a wrestling game.

There's Aidyn Chronicles: The First Mage, but it's generally considered bad. I rented it as a kid, and got frustrated with it.
>>1648504

What? Hell no, Holy Magic Century is the European and Australian name for Quest 64.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 13 16:50:32 2014 No.1688670 >>1688663 Though, I probably need to add that i shouldn't have added Hybrid Heaven. I don't really think it's obscure at all, so I'm sorry for posting it. Never really had a conversation about the N64 without hearing about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 02:37:38 2014 No.1689721 >>1687941 A lot of Persona 4 fans don't even know about the main series, but I guess you're right.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 14 03:15:09 2014 No.1689768 File: 845 KB, 500x357, 1397618541459.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1646285 awww yea! mad props for you so hard to find but man is it good

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Sat Jun 14 18:12:44 2014 No.1690785 >>1688663 >What? Hell no, Holy Magic Century is the European and Australian name for Quest 64. What about this, then: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=008hmNXouQo

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 15 12:39:59 2014 No.1692115 >>1646285 I used to play this with a friend when I was a kid, such fond memories. I should replay it to reconsider wether is really worth being in this list or not.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 16 06:40:11 2014 No.1693920 Threads of Fate

Anonymous Mon Jun 16 20:15:54 2014 No.1695146

>>1682383
Twilight of the Spirits is...just okay. It's not connected to the other games at all, IIRC, or if it is it is extremely loosely. It's worth at least a playthrough, I found, but it is nowhere near as good as the first 3.

End of Darkness is a really shitty action game. Don't bother with it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 08:52:14 2014 No.1696278 >>1559243 not saying its omfg but for N64 aidyn chronicles was underrated as shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 09:33:34 2014 No.1696307 File: 26 KB, 250x305, 250px-CrusadersOfMightAndMagicBox.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] One of the best ARPG's i've ever played.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 10:50:29 2014 No.1696358 >>1686326 Yeah.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 20:00:55 2014 No.1697303 >>1609075 The quintet games really had the best music ever. Best snes jrpg trilogy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vqLjeeHxZM

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 20:10:02 2014 No.1697317 >>1611356 >After all this time, you guys are still saying that actraiser is a trilogy. It's a quadrilogy. Bullshit if anything the third actraiser was solo crisis for saturn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VngTphaNPZg

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 20:11:04 2014 No.1697321 >>1614916 Shitty game in all aspects

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 20:16:58 2014 No.1697330 File: 108 KB, 1054x1024, shadowmadness.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1632565 >Shadow Madness The eternal reminder that art direction and character design IS important when making a jrpg

Anonymous Tue Jun 17 20:20:57 2014 No.1697338

Most underrated JRPG of all time has to be mystic quest if any game deserves that title

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZOQ8sLO-vU

The game has a ballin soundtrack AND the gameplay is more complex than FFXIII, so we can officially say that the main criticism from back then has been rendered moot by final fantasy going down the shitter over the years

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 20:22:16 2014 No.1697345 File: 49 KB, 256x224, darkhalf7.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1697338 >Most underrated JRPG of all time has to be mystic quest if any game deserves that title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5uQFviNoIc

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 20:24:32 2014 No.1697354 >>1697338 Having a giggle there mate?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 20:29:07 2014 No.1697364 >>1647087 >Deception: Invitation to Darkness (Strategy RPG) >Kagero: Deception II (Strategy RPG) >Deception III: Dark Delusion (Strategy RPG) I wouldn't call the Deception games RPG by any stretch of the word

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 20:30:46 2014 No.1697370 >>1641019 It is an RPG series developed by a first party developer like Sega. What do you think?

Anonymous Tue Jun 17 20:44:18 2014 No.1697398

>>1572271

>you can finish the game in under five hours worth of playtime

Wat?

I mean technically you're correct, but speed runs for Terranigma run about 4 hours. That's a guy doing only the essential shit as quickly as he possibly can. In practice unless you're actively racing to the end, have a planned route and have practiced several times the game will take a lot longer than that, even if you've finished it several times before.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 20:59:48 2014 No.1697430 >>1647087 Rhapsody is incredible. It's a Disney movie and an NIS RPG rolled into one. Just avoid the DS version.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 21:31:59 2014 No.1697524 >>1697345 I actually played that with a terrible translation patch a long time ago, didn't get far

Anonymous Tue Jun 17 21:43:32 2014 No.1697548
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Ys 1
Ys 2
Actraiser
Soul Blazer
IoT/IoG
Terranigma
were all made by the same dude.
He never made a videogame after terranigma, so its unclear if hes even alive these days anymore

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 21:47:30 2014 No.1697557 >>1697548 According to japanese wikipedia he worked part time jobs afterwards and then founded a porn game company http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giga_%28company%29

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 17 21:59:24 2014 No.1697584 >>1697557 No, the companies he founded/worked on after Quintet were completely unrelated with the gaming industry. And his whereabout are unknown since some of those companies were involved in different types of frauds.

Anonymous Tue Jun 17 22:00:19 2014 No.1697586

>>1697584
>No, the companies he founded/worked on after Quintet were completely unrelated with the gaming industry. And his whereabout are unknown since some of those companies were involved in different types of frauds.
Where can I read up on that?
That's really bizzare.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 01:15:22 2014 No.1697936 Anyone want to compile a list of the recommendations in the thread, since OP is clearly a faggot.

Anonymous Wed Jun 18 01:27:04 2014 No.1697949

>>1697557
>>1697548
Oh! that old Japanese coming of age story.
>Express your most profound and spiritual inner workings in an interactive digital format that is widely distributed
>achieve a zen state and surpass your potential as a human being.
>start a porn company

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 07:18:43 2014 No.1698405 >>1697949 The same thing happened to masamune shirow

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 07:20:47 2014 No.1698410 >>1635008 >Legend of Dragoon >Utter shit Sorry try again

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 07:39:10 2014 No.1698431 >>1698410 It is a very divisive game. The GIA got so much hate mail for their negative review, that they had a page with all those http://archive.thegia.com/features/f010625b.html

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 07:41:56 2014 No.1698435 >>1697524 It is sad no one has attempted to translate the game proper. It is oddly enough, developed by Westone known for the Wonderboy games

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 07:43:59 2014 No.1698439 File: 2.76 MB, 1440x1472, Xanadu II 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1580146 Funny, I just added Legend of Xanadu II's OST to everything else in my Falcom pastebin: http://pastebin.com/PjQWr5Xr Check it out if you feel like it.

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Wed Jun 18 07:55:08 2014 No.1698465 >>1697936 I'm close to finishing it, honest. I just need some Dreamcast games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 08:21:12 2014 No.1698494 >>1698465 >I just need some Dreamcast games. El Dorado Gate The game where BASTION ripped the artstyle off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owbey2IY-OM

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 08:22:36 2014 No.1698497 >>1697586 http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%AE%AE%E5%B4%8E%E5%8F%8B%E5%A5%BD

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 08:38:21 2014 No.1698531 >>1698497 Thats really intradesting, but I cant read moon

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 09:09:15 2014 No.1698583 >>1698531 >intradesting *Interesting

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 09:12:47 2014 No.1698590 >>1690785 That's the GBC version.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 09:47:07 2014 No.1698619 >>1559243 >Rom Hack list doesn't have Rockman no Caonstancy or Rockman -Infinity Nope

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 09:50:07 2014 No.1698629 >>1698465 Grandia 2 That's it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 09:55:45 2014 No.1698640 >>1698629 Skies of Arcadia is also pretty good, only downside are terribad encounter rates

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 11:12:28 2014 No.1698759 >romhacks that are difficult to make up for the fact that they add nothing to the base game for what purpose

Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Wed Jun 18 19:07:15 2014 No.1699681

>>1698619
What the hell are you talking about?

>9) Mega Man 2 (EU,US)/Rock Man 2: Dr. Wily no Nazo (JP):
>- Rock Man no Constancy [http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/321/]

>11) Mega Man 4 (EU,US)/Rock Man 4: Aratanaru Yabou!! (JP):
>- Rock Man 4: Minus Infinity [http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/910/]

>>1698759
The only hack on the list that fits the bill is Kaizo Mario, in my opinion.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 19:26:59 2014 No.1699736 >>1559476 I remember this game from Gamefan. And I was like "No english release? Seriously?".

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 18 20:44:12 2014 No.1699954 >>1579945 Obscure maybe not, but definitely underrated. I played it a shit ton when I was younger. It's actually surprisingly competent.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 02:53:08 2014 No.1700678 >>1679567 The art for Storm Riders looks bad ass as fuck. Too bad I can't read them.

Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Thu Jun 19 05:20:21 2014 No.1700838
File: 25 KB, 512x448, Terranigma The End.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

http://pastebin.com/fYSte9rs

I'm just leaving this here. Big thanks to everyone who contributed! As for roguelikes, I decided to not include them in this list, as we couldn't come to an agreement on that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 19 12:04:25 2014 No.1701291 >>1700838 Wonderful. Thank you for your efforts, even if they took a while.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 20 00:51:07 2014 No.1702641 File: 103 KB, 1024x978, great-job-1024x978[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1700838

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 21 17:03:51 2014 No.1705974 >>1700838 Shall we do a thread for those next, then?

>>	Specter !!EIMQlVZ3gqv Sat Jun 21 17:17:18 2014 No.1706006 >>1705974 To be honest, I don't know if there are enough obscure roguelikes to make a full-fledged list.

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