/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1554547]

Pick a game, and then post the single hardest part from the game. Can include sidequests as well

Starting off with an easy one

[Anonymous No.1554553]

>>1554547
How is Death Mountain harder than The Great Palace? Even the mountain path to it with the random enemies is harder.

[Anonymous No.1554556]

[Anonymous No.1554571]

Im trying to think of the hardest part for Mario 64 but nothing is really coming to mind. Maybe the 100 coin star in Tick Tock Clock, but for some reason the 100 coin in HMC also comes to mind.

[Anonymous No.1554580]

>>1554571
Wing Mario Over the Rainbow is kind of a pain in the ass, but more annoying than hard.

This isn't terribly difficult, but it's rather jarring, since the rest of the game is a piece of cake.

[Anonymous No.1554589]

>>1554553
This. I think a lot of people played up to that part then gave up, unknowing that there's a far more difficult area nearer the game's end.

[Anonymous No.1554604]

hey rebels...we hurd u like missiles.

[Anonymous No.1554621]

Catching the Hylian Loach is the hardest. There's hardly anything in OoT that's hard at all, that is, not much that really requires skill with the controller. The Loach is a bit more of a challenge than anything else. I can't think of anything in the game that's difficult.

[Anonymous No.1554626]

Seriously, how the FUCK is ANYONE supposed to beat this level?

>Captcha: sorrows painumm
See? even captcha knows.

[Anonymous No.1554634]

This boss was an absolute fucking nightmare for me. Castle Crush (I think that's the name) also took me forever to beat. And also Web Woods.

[Anonymous No.1554643]

>>1554547
>Death Mountain
>harder that the Fucking Thunderbird Maze Palace

[Anonymous No.1554647]

>>1554553
I think a lot of it hinges on the variability your luck of guessing your way through the right path, but assuming you know what you're doing in either part of the game I'd still say Death Mountain is harder if you put aside the final bosses in the Great Palace. It's also pretty jolting for how early in the game it is.

You can just use fairy to get past the worst of the lava cave areas in the mountain path, and even then once you get to the end you can restart at the palace freely. Death Mountain is a slog that goes on forever while wearing you down and then finishes with a mini-dungeon full of the worst enemies in the game up to that point.

[Anonymous No.1554649]

>>1554626
How different is that from the bike level in the NES game? That was really fun when you got the hang of it.

[Anonymous No.1554652]

>>1554634
>Screwing up on getting the DK coin at the end of Web Woods

[Anonymous No.1554678]

Street Fighter 2010, final stage. The timer on that stage is your true worst enemy.

[Anonymous No.1554689]

>>1554547
>You think you can reach the top without taking damage? That's cute.

[Anonymous No.1554696]

>>1554634
>>1554652
Animal.
Antics.

[Anonymous No.1554702]

Possibly the hardest final boss from the X series

[Anonymous No.1554704]

>>1554696
I honestly found fiery furnace harder

[Anonymous No.1554703]

>>1554689
Huh. Batman's sprite looks kind of dumpy, but the backgrounds are really nice.

[Anonymous No.1554708]

>>1554696
I never found that too hard. Just take your time and be careful. There's no time limit.

[Anonymous No.1554715]

[Anonymous No.1554723]

>>1554696
>Not Klobber Karnage

[Anonymous No.1554814]

>>1554547

HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE!!

I don't like it.

The part in Level 6 where you have to wait for the ogre to be away from the ladder is more annoying than difficult, really.

[Anonymous No.1554857]

SO YOU THINK YOU CAN BEAT THRACIA 776 WITH ALL UNITS, EH?

Fuck 24x.

[Anonymous No.1554976]

>>1554556

The hardest part of MM by far was, in my opinion, the Goht dungeon on the moon. Getting that fucking Heart Piece was a goddamn nightmare, the controls for that shit took so long to get used to. Your precision needed to be virtually perfect.

It might be the single hardest thing in a 3D Zelda in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.1555106]

Somewhere on this level was a jump that took up the majority of my every playthrough of this game.

[Anonymous No.1555236]

Back when you could get most NES games for $1, I decided to collect StarTropics because it's my favorite all-time game. I purchased about 20 copies over a few years, and never once did I find a save file beyond chapter 3. When I loaded the games, every single one was stuck at the graveyard dungeon.

[Anonymous No.1555242]

Why IREM, why?

[Anonymous No.1555250]

>>1554556
I honestly don't understand how people have so much trouble with this race. When I'm doing minimalist or three-day challenges there are much easier and more frustrating things to fuck up, such as Gyorg, Twinmold, or rolling up Snowhead quickly without accidents in order to get the powder keg before the first night. Goron race is easy by comparison.

[Anonymous No.1555254]

Golem Plague is absolutely fiendish on smaller party playthroughs, and it's mostly because of these assholes right here.

[Anonymous No.1555272]

>>1555236
>When I loaded the games, every single one was stuck at the graveyard dungeon.
That's fucking beautiful. I just beat that chapter a week or so ago. Gotta go back and violate that moai one of these days

[Anonymous No.1555284]

The god damned worm room. This sensor is suppose to help you but all it does is beeping long enough to leave you at the middle of the room, blind as a bat. Fucking annoying bleeping too. Damn it.

[Anonymous No.1555289]

>>1555242

>not using the Kacho's method

[Anonymous No.1555303]

>>1555284
I gave up at that exact spot when I was kid. I've been wanting to replay this but I've put it off as I haven't found any //gs emulators with decent joystick support, and I'm not putting up with the mangled Genesis soundtrack.

[Anonymous No.1555310]

>>1555289
I seriously doubt Japanese Youtube Attention Whore faggot beat that part. Unless he was playing the severely difficulty-reduced PC Engine version.

[Anonymous No.1555309]

Posting a serious contestant for "hardest level of all time". Not a hyperbole. I've only seen this stage passed via TAS (for the 2nd loop specifically.)

[Anonymous No.1555313]

>>1555309
...but what game is this?

[Anonymous No.1555314]

>>1555309
One time I sat down for a few hours and spammed save states until I finally managed a decent method of tackling the whole thing.

[Anonymous No.1555316]

>>1555313
Image Fight

[Anonymous No.1555325]

>>1554647
The bosses in the Great Palace are easier than the Palace itself.
Shadow Link is a fucking joke and Thunderbird you just jump and hit.

[Anonymous No.1555328]

>>1555310
yowza, that's an awfully strong opinion about some guy who plays games on a japanese TV show

[Anonymous No.1555393]

>>1555106

Oh jeez, I suddenly remember everything about that level. The tight jump you have to make to get the frog, the sync of the fire, those evil spores, those evil spores, those evil spores, and the rocking music.

>>1555328
Anon is right about one thing, though, Kacho was playing on the PC Engine.

However, he just implied a Japanese comedian and family man working for a show with an actual budget and under someone's direction is on the same level as any YouTuber with a webcam, and therefore we must call him a fucking idiot, a little faggot and a bad person.

[Anonymous No.1555480]

>>1554553
main problem
You dont have the downward slash by the time

[Anonymous No.1555482]

>>1554626
NES bike level is more brutal

[Anonymous No.1555489]

>>1554604

I was stuck on that fucking level for months.

Then one day, I put the game in, started playing and finished it on my first go, went on to beat the game a few hours later.

Don't know how the fuck.

[Anonymous No.1555492]

>>1554689
Both of us know that if you tap A or hold A for some microseconds before reaching the highest jump height will make that part a cakewalk

[Anonymous No.1555503]

>>1555303
Try the Amiga version. UAE has good joystick support.

[Anonymous No.1555521]

Ultimate Doom E4M1, after releasing the barons from the blue key room. You can skip this part, unless you're going for 100% kills. Otherwise it's pretty brutal for an episode intro level...

[Anonymous No.1555567]

Backtostart.exe

[Anonymous No.1555598]

>>1555567
the Wiegraf/Belias fight was so memorable and challenging, it might be my fave from FFT.
The game warns you about multiple save games, so blame yourself.

[Anonymous No.1555612]

>>1555598
...or God.

[Anonymous No.1555649]

Fuck this level.

[Anonymous No.1555680]

>>1555612
You have no god.

[Anonymous No.1555686]

The rest is cake

[Anonymous No.1555729]

[Anonymous No.1555739]

Fuck this bullshit (excuse the screenshot for ants)

[Anonymous No.1555823]

>>1554702
Are you kidding? X4's Sigma is a fucking joke, each form only has one attack and they're easy as shit to dodge.

X3 Sigma was much worse.

[Anonymous No.1555838]

>>1555823
agreed on X3 Sigma.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EpdCBDsk_o

[Anonymous No.1555839]

Getting the jiggy in the engine room is probably the most difficult part of Banjo Kazooie.

The most annoying part is getting all notes in Click Clock Wood. If you miss one somewhere you have to search 4 big areas for it.

[Anonymous No.1555891]

The Showdown taught me a very important lesson on difficulty curves in video games.

Namely, don't FUCKING SPIKE THE GODDAMN CURVE ON THE VERY LAST LEVEL, THAT SHIT IS FUCKING RIDICULOUS.

[Anonymous No.1555901]

>>1555250

I think its definitely the hardest part of MM. The gorons in the race always seem to home in on you for no reason

It makes sense if you're doing a minimalist challenge that other things are harder, but in a "normal" playthrough I think its definitely the hardest

[Anonymous No.1555986]

>>1555901
I still disagree, it's uncommon that I have to attempt the race more than once and never more than twice.

[Anonymous No.1555990]

>>1555393
I'm sorry, it's the truth. He's just as unfunny and unskilled as any other Let's Play shitlord on Youtube, the only difference is he's Japanese and is on television. The only redeeming part of that show is when they get developer interviews.

[Anonymous No.1555991]

I wanted to end it as soon as I saw his final transformation. Fuck this guy.

[Anonymous No.1556014]

>>1554580

To me if something is "annoying" its probably hard as well. Unless you mean tedious. But if its annoying because its hard to hit the right angles I would call that hard.

Still, what is the hardest star from 64? I don't know. I didnt find Rainbow Ride as hard as most people. I actually had a ton of trouble with that star in SSl where you have to reveal the 5 secrets, because you need to jump on extremely small platforms.

[Anonymous No.1556026]

>>1555254
What game is this?

[Anonymous No.1556365]

>>1555990

I'll agree with ya on the unskilled part. Then again, he beat Super Ghouls n Ghosts and I can't do that for the life of me.

But he's not like shitlords. Compare and contrast DSP gaming (I know, going kinda low here).

Arino's not as loud as YouTuber LPers, doesn't rely on vulgarity as much (when he does I find it hilarious, though), and when something doesn't go his way, he doesn't blame the game. Also, he has been shown to play and get along quite well with kids, and that just puts a smile on my face.

If you don't like the show that's fine, but saying it's YT LP tier is kinda harsh.

[Anonymous No.1556370]

>>1555236
That's exactly where I'm stuck at

[Anonymous No.1556421]

>>1554553
It can't help that many people seemed to get lost often in the mountains. It's pretty easy though, you just have to go right every time.

[Anonymous No.1556424]

>>1554580
Wario's Castle is purposely difficult I think. They wanted you to get a game over, have to go back and get all the golden coins again, and also have to grind for coins to play the slots and get enough extra lives to not game over at Wario and have to do it all again. Basically getting some extra length out of the very short game.

[Anonymous No.1556425]

>>1555254
My god damn nigga.

[Anonymous No.1556426]

>>1554621
Descending Ganon's Tower with 3 hearts, hover boots and megaton hammer only, no shielding, was a fucking bitch for me. It took me maybe 10 hours, mostly because of Stalfos. The part where you fight two of them was a pain in the ass, since one hit = dead and you basically had to get lucky about their attack patterns.

[Anonymous No.1556427]

>>1556026
Exile 3.

[Anonymous No.1556430]

>>1554715
What's the deal with those enemies?

[Anonymous No.1556434]

>>1556426
>hover boots
Sheesh, you know there's a challenge and then there's just making a game unfun.

>since one hit = dead
Also what? I've done a super bare-bones run myself and they don't kill you in one hit. It's Ganon and Ganondorf that do that (every attack except his ground pound thing).

[Anonymous No.1556438]

>>1556430
Anti Guys hit really hard, and the first one you run into is essentially an optional boss. Then you fight them for real at the end.

[Anonymous No.1556453]

>>1556434
I could easily avoid the slashes, but the boots made it very difficult to dodge their lunges which were one-hit kills.

At the same time, if you played it on 3DS Master Quest then all of their attacks would be 1-hits. The only way I managed to beat them on the ferry in the Shadow Temple was by going to a certain spot and waiting, where they'd try to circle around me and end up walking off of the ferry.

I used hover boots because I've played OoT too many times, and the game was too easy otherwise. The descent stalfos was all that was hard for me. Now Link Between Worlds, 3HR on Hero Mode is pleasantly hard.

>>1556438
Ah. Sounds like a fun destroyer of worlds. Don't people do low-HP runs of Paper Mario though? I wonder how anti guys are for that.

[Anonymous No.1556458]

>>1554647
>I think a lot of it hinges on the variability your luck of guessing your way through the right path

You mean just like The Great Palace?

[Anonymous No.1556474]

>>1556458
The great palace was more difficult when finding the right way. It was very easy to get lost, especially if you didn't make a map. I finally traced the right path to the boss and it was easier, but the road to that knowledge was tough.

The real hardest part of the game is getting to the great palace, I think. It takes a lot of skill to get through, as well as most of your extra lives. I'd argue that there's a reason that the Great Palace is the only point of the game where continuing your game doesn't start you at north palace.

[Anonymous No.1556478]

>>1555567
I could only legit beat this motherfucker once. I had to cheat my way around him in replays

[Anonymous No.1557137]

>>1556365
>Beat SG&G
>sucks

I don't really know anything about the guy, but that puts him in (easily) the top 10% unless he cheated like mad to get there

[Anonymous No.1557193]

>>1554702
X is a joke, it is a bit tricky with Zero though but by no means hard.

[Anonymous No.1557198]

>>1557193
Man, I always felt it was the other way around. I had a hard time finishing the game with X, but it was cake with Zero, because he deals so much damage, and has several multi-hit moves.

[Anonymous No.1557705]

Stage 7-3 has all of my rage. the jump at the beginning is ridiculous

[Anonymous No.1557715]

>>1555649
Mah nigga.

[Anonymous No.1557752]

>>1554604
This level's so much fun with the TIE Interceptor. GOTTA GO FAST!!!!

[Anonymous No.1559361]

obligatory

[Anonymous No.1560956]

>>1556424
I remember getting the 99 1UPs in the slot machine, best thing ever.

[Anonymous No.1560962]

[Anonymous No.1560973]

Grey blocks are indestructible. You are the green guy. Your job is to open the book in the middle of the room. The book doesn't open unless you fulfill an extremely obscure condition never hinted at anywhere in the game.

Also, you don't get to keep your magic weapons on this stage. It's you and a block-breaking wand against all this shit.

[Anonymous No.1560980]

>>1559361
Water Temple isn't hard; it's just aggressively annoying.

[Anonymous No.1560983]

>>1554689
its possible.. just very difficult

the fact that there is an item farm right at the end though kinda eases the pain

[Anonymous No.1561008]

This should have been an optional minigame, not something you're forced to do every few levels.

[Anonymous No.1561018]

Still one of my favorite games

[Anonymous No.1561020]

>>1554553

By the time you get to the Grand Palace you are versed in the game and you have all the spells/tools necessary to overcome the challenges.

Grand Palace is long, but as far as difficulty is concerned, Death Mountain is a cockblock.

If you can beat DM, you can beat the game.

[Anonymous No.1561026]

>>1561018
The single hardest part of Metroid is the beginning?

[Anonymous No.1561032]

>>1555567
Jeez, I loved and hated that part.
It's just ramza running like a bitch away from him. What job was using your ramza?

Mine was a niinja with double wielding so I managed to kill him in two turns, somehow.
Not easy, tho. My ramza was on verge of Death and was brutally raped after he killed Wiegraf.

[Anonymous No.1561034]

>>1555686

I always figured this fight was the game's way of checking that you got the Fire Dagger from the Camu's room (and maybe picked up the Camu Jewel if you were a lucky fuck).

[Anonymous No.1561049]

>>1555686
>Thinking ancient cave is cake

cmon anon.

[Anonymous No.1561081]

>>1555823

X3 Sigma is cake compared to X4, I don't even know how you can make your distinction. What about X3 Sigma is difficult?

Form one: Hug the wall till fireballs are gone, when he jumps up hit him and dash.
Form two: Hit boxes are a pain, but it is the same 2 patterns over and over. Missles from the back, lasers in the front.

X4:

Form one: Joke
Form two: This is trial and error, the form has two different attack patterns (not one), and the 'easy' pattern takes using the lightning web to dodge.
Form Three: Biggest fuck you in all of the X series. Gun Sigma is easy, but Big Head can literally shut you out so you can never damage him as X. If he does the wind push, you can damage him. If he does the rocks, you can't without taking damage.

Between each you have to deal with the colored heads, and both Yellow and Red take some learning to avoid damage.

[Anonymous No.1561086]

>>1555838

Awful play, just standing there and eating the fireballs.

Hug the wall till the 1st flame reaches you at the top of the wall.
Jump off the wall and up-dash the moment you are level with his head.
Hit him with a charge shot when he jumps and dash to the other side.
No damage ez-mode.

[Anonymous No.1561109]

>>1556478

really? that hardly makes any sense, in replays you know he is coming, so absolutely worse-case scenario you just grind a little extra JP before the fight and use auto potion or something.

in fact, after my 2nd playthrough i think auto potion was the first thing i started forcing myself not to use, because its the easiest skill to get/use to trivialize the entire game.

[Anonymous No.1561115]

>>1561109

>Get auto-potion
>sell all your old potions for hi potions
>randomly find a potion due to walk -> find item
>auto-potion for 30 HP when you need the hi potion
>GRAAAAH

[Anonymous No.1561321]

>>1560962
What game? Looks fun.

[Anonymous No.1561334]

>>1561321

Secret of Mana. SNES.

It is fun.

[Anonymous No.1561486]

>>1555393
>However, he just implied a Japanese comedian and family man working for a show with an actual budget and under someone's direction is on the same level as any YouTuber with a webcam
Good goy. Entertainers are only worth watching if they're affiliated with a corporation!

Youtubers are just bums who need to get a real job. And by "real job" I mean NBC, CNN, ABC, Fox, FNN, BBC, etc.!

[Anonymous No.1561520]

>>1554976
I used to think the same thing, and then I realized you can just hold up the entire time and you automatically turn the corners. I felt so stupid.

[Anonymous No.1561528]

>>1554696
>>1554704
>>1554708
>>1554723
Toxic Tower doesn't get any lov- hate?

[Anonymous No.1561585]

Why the hell is Snow Barrel Blast not mentioned yet? Platform Perils or Tanked Up Trouble are pretty bad too.

>>1556438
>>1556453
Both encounters are optional. First one can be fought for a good item or convinced away from it with a special type of food item and the three in that picture are only fought if you mess up a quiz.

[Anonymous No.1561847]

>>1554976
Oh my god.
I just revisited this not too long ago, and my controllers all had so much slop in the joysticks that it was almost impossible. Fuck.

[Anonymous No.1561863]

[Anonymous No.1562113]

>>1561486
>Entertainers are only worth watching if they're affiliated with a corporation!

The other way around. If the corporation wants them it's because they are worth watching. Most of the time, anyways.

Arino is a comedian after all. Not some "game journalist", "reviewer" or god forbid "ex-professional player". Comedian. If they hired him was for a reason.

He stars in a show that airs in Japan. Not a webcast or stream or something. A TV show that somehow became known all the way here. If that isn't noteworthy I don't know what is.

[Anonymous No.1562126]

GTA Vice City: a toy helicopter mission.
I haven't played the game in nearly 10 years, so maybe I wouldn't find it too hard nowadays. I'm about to start replaying soon.

[Anonymous No.1562768]

>>1561863
>not control on 00agent

[Anonymous No.1562793]

>>1561863
Natalya reaaaaally took her time getting out and away from that train.

[Anonymous No.1562795]

>>1562126
Am I the only one who has never had any problems with that mission? Sure, the toy heli is a bit wonky to control but I have never failed that mission once nor had any trouble with it whatsoever. Also is it just me or does someone say in a strange voice "MUST KILL THE MALICE" or something during that mission?

[Anonymous No.1562812]

First boss of Shining Force 1. He does not fuck around. Freeze Lv3, 100+ MP, bullshit evasion.

[Anonymous No.1562829]

>>1562126
PS2 games are not retro

[Anonymous No.1563075]

>>1559361
For some reason, when I see that screenshot, I hear the area transition sound effect from Dark Souls in my head.