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Lets settle this /vr/, GENESIS vs SNES, which is better and why.

my vote goes for genesis

>> No.1547069

20 year old console wars shit is still console wars shit.

>> No.1547074

Genesis for hardcore games, SNES for "comfy" (aka casual) games.

>> No.1547091 [DELETED] 

MRGBONESECONSOLENWARS

THEERIDESNEVERIENDSS!

>> No.1547095

SNES if you dig into the wealth of Japanese only stuff as well

Otherwise even.

>> No.1547102

SNES in the long run.
genesis had more limitations but it's one strength was a big one.

>> No.1547107

Bad sound and controller on Genesis.
Bad prices and lack of blast processing on the SNES.

>> No.1547108

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuYFmIEtLLk

>> No.1547112

>>1547062
both. everybody wins

>> No.1547130

Super Nintendo had the best RPGs and fighting games. Overall, it had the best variety. I think Super NES wins, but the Genesis has a unique style and charm. I love both.

>> No.1547157

>>1547130
i agree that SNES was king of RPGs, but genesis had Earthworm Jim and a was the king of shmup bullet hell games with games like truxton and musha

>> No.1547181

>>1547112
Yep. Owned both, loved both. What a great era for gaming back then. It's sad that most of you kids didn't experience it directly and was probably weaned on crap like the N64.

>> No.1547227

>>1547062
both

>> No.1547238

You're still playing with those toys? Jaguar craps all over them. Its 64 bits.

>> No.1547245
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1547245

Do we really want console wars thread on /vr? Just play what you like and talk about it, no need to bring "My opinion is best opinion" into it.

>> No.1547393

>>1547245
As long as they're uncommon matchups they can be interesting. SNES vs Genesis and PS1 vs N64 have been discussed to death and back.

>> No.1547708

Why not both? Only children argue which one is better.

>> No.1547716

How many times can you "settle" a debate that hasn't been relevant since the 90s? There's no reason in the year 2014 that you can't like both.

>> No.1547725

In my opinion the genesis had better games and and I fucking love the sound chip but the SNES had such a nice controller and it had a more real sound chip.

Both were good but the genesis is my bae

>> No.1547743

SNES is for RPGs and long non-RPG games, genesis is generally for short action games.

I'm more into short games now, so Genesis for me.

>> No.1547761

There's good games on both, but honestly, SNES has more variety and also the very best games. Genesis did offer a more arcadey experience (including ports), which was neat at the time, though you're better off with a Saturn if that's what you're looking for. Meanwhile, some of the very best, and most influential, games of all time are on the SNES.

>> No.1547773

>>1547761
>Meanwhile, some of the very best, and most influential, games of all time are on [a lot of systems]

>> No.1547774

>>1547130
Mega Drive had Shining Force and the fighting games were just as good as on SNES. It even had a really good Samurai Shodown port.

SNES has the RPG crown, I give it that, but other than this, I personally like Mega Drive games more.
Like someone already said, SNES is just too casual for me, even though it even gave birth to cult games like R-Type III or Contra III.

>> No.1547775

>>1547062
>which is better and why.
>my vote goes for genesis

I honestly don't understand why people bother to participate in shitty console war threads, especially when the OP is this retarded.

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>>1547245
>>1547708
>>1547716
Get a load of all these nerds taking the high road because muh serious /vr/ discussions


Anyways, the SNES was better. The Genesis was only good for watered down arcade ports.

>> No.1547779

>I say genesis
Wrong answer pal. You lose.

>> No.1547780

SNES.

Better games, graphics, and sound.

>> No.1547791

>>1547761
>SNES has more variety
Where this? Mega Drive had awesome games in every genre. It even had awesome games which were very unusual like Ecco, or Kid Chameleon for example.

> the very best games
Complete bullshit. It merely was more popular, because it was for casuals, but apart from RPGs, it didn't have better games at all.

>> No.1547797

>>1547776
Okay what if I don't like RPGs? "Watered down" truxton (the definitive version you fuckin ignorant twat) is still a million times more appealing than ANYTHING on the SNES. Sorry bud but those watered down arcade games are way more fun than boring RPGs.

>> No.1547806

>>1547791
the ooze is another super unique one!

>>1547095
If you dig into japanese only stuff the mega drive still wins because you get a plethora of awesome shmups, what does the SNES give you some fucking anime licensed shovelware you casuals just go nuts for?

>> No.1547807

SNES.

Super Mario World
Super Metroid
Yoshi's Island
Super Mario RPG
Earthbound
Chrono Trigger
Super Punch-Out
Final Fantasy III
Link to the Past
Kirby Super Star
Tetris Attack

>> No.1547813

>>1547062
SuperFami

I can only say that though because of RPGs and Megaman really but also I don't think any Nintendo console since has had such a great balance of releases from its franchises - I don't even think a handheld has had a major Earthbound, Metroid, F-Zero, Star Fox and Fire Emblem title... Being a Nintendrone is suffering.

>> No.1547816

>>1547813

>A handheld doesn't have a major Fire Emblem title
What is the 3DS, and Awakening?

>> No.1547818
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>>1547797
>truxton

Mark, is that you?

>> No.1547819

>>1547806
>you casuals
[snickering intensifies]

Why do you people insist on fighting shitty console wars that have been over for 2 decades?

Being a console warrior is loserish enough on its own--it's even worse to be a console warrior for a system that's not even sold anymore. Especially considering you people are all (I'm assuming here) adults now with disposable income and all the games you could want via emulation.

>> No.1547823

>>1547816
But I thought that one wasn't very good.

>> No.1547826

>>1547807

Super Mario World - Sonic 2
Super Metroid - Mega Turrican
Yoshi's Island - Fuck that game its gay Ristar is better anyway, better mechanics and platforming.
Super Mario RPG - A non shitty RPG still not a very engaging game
Earthbound - Seriously RPGs suck faggot
Chrono Trigger - Another boring RPG I beat it and loved it but the gameplay isn't anything special you fag.
Super Punch-Out - Seriously? Punch-out is way better
Final Fantasy III - SNORE
Link to the Past - Finally an actual good game!
Kirby Super Star - Swap the character with anything else and you wouldnt give a fuck
Tetris Attack, You could have put warios woods its still just a puzzle game you can find on ANY CONSOLE.

Mega Drive has Battle Mania 2, nuff said.

>> No.1547827

>>1547816
I meant all on one console genius. Does the 3DS have major Earthbound, Metroid, F-Zero and Star Fox releases?

>> No.1547837

>>1547819
because I want these SNES plebs to admit RPGs suck and SHMUPs are the king of the 16 bit generation, seriously fuck jRPGs the gameplay is boring as fuck so simpletons with no reaction or reflexes actually think its more fun to play than a shmup.

I own both of them myself and grew up a nintendo pleb but to say final fantasy or CT has amazing gameplay is just being stupid. Super Mario RPG was pretty good cause it had some unique aspects to it.

>>1547818
No but Mark is right truxton is fucking amazing. its miniboss after miniboss after miniboss and it never lets up. If you have more fun playing final fantasy than that it's because you have brain damage.

>> No.1547839

>>1547837
>casual
>plebs
>needing to insult people to prove your point
>>>/out/

>> No.1547840

Starflight.

>> No.1547843

>>1547826

>Ristar is better than Yoshi's Island

Confirmed for shit taste.

>> No.1547845

>>1547837
>because I want these SNES plebs to admit RPGs suck and SHMUPs are the king of the 16 bit generation, seriously fuck jRPGs the gameplay is boring as fuck so simpletons with no reaction or reflexes actually think its more fun to play than a shmup.

lol

try more subtlety next time

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TurboGrafx-16

>> No.1547853

>>1547839
So tell me how much gaming skill and reflexes it takes to beat an RPG?

>>1547843
>Liking yoshi's island
confirmed for shit taste
HURRRRRRRR

>>1547845
Oi its the truth m8, rpgs are for morons who want to hit one button repeatedly. I like them myself but gameplay wise they are shit. Instead of just accusing me of trolling please explain how the gameplay in an RPG takes any sort of skill?

>> No.1547858

>>1547853
>Oi its the truth m8, rpgs are for morons who want to hit one button repeatedly. I like them myself but gameplay wise they are shit.

You were doing better a second before. Now you are making no sense.

>> No.1547861

>>1547858
What's so wrong about liking something while simultaneously acknowledging it's shit?

>> No.1547860

>>1547069
This. They're both fine consoles with tons of great games.

>> No.1547867

>>1547858

this dude >>1547861 is correct, I will love chrono trigger for its charming story and cute characters. Gameplay wise though it's a snore, it's better than most as you actually have to watch the bosses animations but still as a game it isn't engaging.

>> No.1547870

>>1547853
>So tell me how much gaming skill and reflexes it takes to beat an RPG?

not much usually, what's your point?

>> No.1547875
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>>1547062
Check and mate OP.

>> No.1547876

>>1547870

Well clearly you're talking to some ding dong who thinks that player skill is the only thing that comes into play when enjoying a video game.

Now, if that's what you want from your video games, that's fine, but trying to put your preferences above everyone else's? Pretending that there's only one reason people should play games? Naw, bruh, naw.

You're better off not going down this rabbit hole. Let him stay down there by himself.

>> No.1547882

>>1547157
>but genesis had Earthworm Jim
Isn't there a SNES version of that? Or is it shit?

>> No.1547879

>>1547875
>What Nintendon't
What's that? Suck?

>> No.1547883
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>>1547879
NINTENDON'T!!!
NINTENDON'T!!!
NINTENDON'T!!!
NINTENDON'T!!!

>> No.1547884 [DELETED] 

SNES.

Genesis is for niggers.

>> No.1547886
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>>1547884
>Genesis is for niggers.

Ya'll just jealous of my big fat black stack of games.

>> No.1547887

>>1547876
Games that require you to build skills to master them and their mechanics > games built on story and characters

>> No.1547889

SNES.

Genesis was for niggers.

>> No.1547885

>>1547876
>Let him stay down there by himself.
This.Some of these guys are like actual console war kiddies pulled from the past. Not worth any real thought.

>> No.1547891

>>1547882
Yeah EWJ is on SNES too, although it's a bit inferior.

>> No.1547896

>>1547887
Well that's a personal preference.

It's also working under the faulty idea that all RPGs are about story and characters. In fact, for a number of RPGs (especially older RPGs, given we're on /vr/), story is just there to give you an excuse to go inside dungeons to kill things.

But yeah, the important thing to take from this is that it's preferences and yours lie elsewhere from other people. And that's fine. But you are not correct by any definition. It's opinions. That's all it is and you really can't argue that.

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1547898

Gaze upon its glory.

>> No.1547903
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1547903

BOOM!

>> No.1547907
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1547907

GENESIS DOES WHAT NINTENDON'T!

>> No.1547909
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>> No.1547910

>>1547875
>so desperate

>> No.1547913
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1547913

THE TOWER OF POWER!!!

>> No.1547916

>>1547875
>>1547883
>>1547886
>>1547898
>>1547903
>>1547907
>>1547909
Never before has any marketer
TRIED
THIS
HARD

>> No.1547918

>>1547896
I like those but the super nintendo doesn't have any awesome dungeon crawlers, EoTB? Yeah so? That was on sega cd with a yuzo soundtrack! and it had shining in the darkness. I love RPGs with good mechanics like SaGa 2 is one of my favorite games ever, the ones people always mention FF3,CT, EB aren't that engrossing gameplay wise. I just seem to think most people over value them though just because they are longer a 15 minute blastfest like midnight resistance is worthy of being equally as awesome as a long rpg. I love them both but I'll post why I think mega drive is best in a sec.

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>>1547896

no no no no there are different types of games, but whether they succeed or fail at what they were trying to do is not a matter of opinion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3EkT-jUNAg

>> No.1547954

>>1547918
Midnight Resistance runs at 30fps, even on the arcade original, so it's not awesome.

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why mega drive is best, plz dont judge the condition I don't know what kind of sick faggot does that to their games but they are in good hands now. Also yanked the PCB out of musha to show its a pirate cart not a repro I am also a cheapass so mega drive is best. I have a pretty good SNES collection too but I just don't find myself playing it as often.

>> No.1547959

>>1547954
n64 games run at 2fps and people seem to enjoy those. I'm a mega drive supremacist but I still enjoy gradius 3 on the SNES. 30fps didn't make midnight resistance any less fun

>> No.1547990

>>1547959
>n64 games run at 2fps
Nintendo fans enjoy those, so it doesn't count.

Also F-Zero X and Mischief Makers run at 60fps.

>> No.1548508

Star Fox Megadrive version (without any extra chip):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuYFmIEtLLk

>> No.1548514

>>1547913
The thing is the Megadrive did not really need add-ons, as Batman & Robin, Thnderforce IV,Gunstar Heroes, and Contra and numerous games showed.

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>>1547791

Also, Herzog Zwei is fucking God Tier and a completely unique console game.

Thunderforce IV anally devastates any SNES sh'mup you can think of.

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1548531

>this thread

Both are great consoles, if you didn't grew up being an idort, ESPECIALLY during the SNES and MD days, you don't have the right to voice your opinions on video games.

>> No.1548557

Are you aware that the SNES has a much better library? And that overall the SNES had a more capable hardware?

>> No.1548568

>>1547853
>Oi its the truth m8, rpgs are for morons who want to hit one button repeatedly. I like them myself

>> No.1548607

>>1548557
>Are you aware that the SNES has a much better library?
A much better RPG library maybe.
>And that overall the SNES had a more capable hardware?
It's a shame that the area where the SNES is weaker was actually the most important area.

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1548617

Guys,
enough with these threads already

>> No.1548631

>>1547780
This.

>> No.1548639

Ignoring the library, Genesis is a complete turn off for me to collect. There's like three different versions of the system and each one has something wrong with it that may or may not require extensive hardware modifying. Some systems have start up screens while others don't, some have muddled audio, one model isn't even compatible with the millions of aborted add-ons for Genesis.

It's probably the most ratchet system ever, I've never bothered picking up a Genesis model for that reason.

>> No.1548642

>>1548639
Just get a first model High Definition Graphics edition.

See that wasn't so hard?

>> No.1548645

>>1548642
Some still have boot up screens while others don't. And there's still all of those terrible add-ons you need to play like, one or two good games.

>> No.1548649

>>1548645
>Some still have boot up screens while others don't
The model I suggested has no boot-up screen. This is a good thing because the boot-up screen is a piracy/region checker (but it makes little difference in practice).
>And there's still all of those terrible add-ons you need to play like, one or two good games.
This myth needs to die. The Sega CD was good, and had plenty of good games (yes, and it did have a lot of shitty FMV games too). The 32X was legitimately dire, but it wasn't totally without a couple of good games.

>> No.1548653

>>1548645
>Some still have boot up screens while others don't.
Do you seriously care about that 1-2 seconds screen?

Don't buy one then, better for us since the market is inflating.

>> No.1548658

>>1548649
>The model I suggested has no boot-up screen.

They still have boot-ups depending on the FCC ID label.

>> No.1548660

>>1548658
It really doesn't matter either way unless you are an autistic collector. This model has good sound.

>> No.1548663

Throwin in my vote for SNES, had a Genesis when I was younger but it broke early on. I got a lot of nostalgia for the SNES, my earliest gaming memories were from it, and it had a solid library to boot

>> No.1548665

>>1548660
Certain homebrew only work without the system copyright boot-up.

>> No.1548670

>>1548665
Maybe if you're using caveman homebrew instead of modern flash carts.

>> No.1548672

>>1548665
I have a model 2 and many pirate games, never had a problem with them.

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>>1547130
>best fighting games
As if SNES ever had any fighting game (apart from Street Fighter) as good as motherfucking Eternal Champions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv3P6Z6h4vE

>> No.1548701

Didn't have a SNES growing up, I spent much of my childhood on the genesis but even so I have to say the SNES. Literally every game had the potential to be really really fun. I've played some shit genesis games before but I always found a way to have fun on the SNES

>> No.1549181

Technically, I'll always prefer the SNES. Better graphics and sound, and it's best games trump the Genesis' best games easily. Sure, Genesis had Phantasy Star 4, but SNES had Final Fantasy 6 AND Chrono Trigger AND Earthbound, etc, etc, etc.

All that said, the Genesis itself has a very special appeal, especially if you're a big retrohead/otaku/"hardcore gamer"/general freak/whatever. I mean- I'm not a young dude. I've had the time to play most of the great games by Nintendo, Capcom, Konami, et al. For deep digging, I feel that the Genesis has the greatest wealth of obscure B and C grade games by minor publishers, aside from the NES (of course).

Also, the system has plenty of obscure weeaboo content (IE: shmups; armored bikinis). The retro fanbase for the Genesis also seems to overlap with the sorts of people who might dig ARTMIC/AIC OVAs...

>> No.1549184

SNES, but I grew up with it.
I didn't get a Genesis until later.

They're both great consoles, why would you start such a terrible thread, OP?

>> No.1549196

>>1548690
The Genesis version was shit. It was the Sega CD version that was good.

>> No.1549202

>>1549181
>best games trump the Genesis' best games easily
That depends ENTIRELY on the for of games you like.

I'm not into RPGs, so the games you mentioned mean nothing to me.

>> No.1549204

>>1549202
For should be type. Using my phone and lazy typing.

>> No.1549205

>best fighting games
can't even run hyper fighting at full speed.

no yu yu hukasho 4 player brawler

microscopic sprites on samurai shodown

snes does have super butouden 2 which is god tier vidya but its no yu yu hukasho

>> No.1549209

>>1549205

It's got that kickass Gundam Wing fighting game though.

And Killer Instinct, which is way better than Eternal Champions.

>> No.1549213

>>1549205

It's Hakusho

>> No.1549219

>>1549181
>and it's best games trump the Genesis' best games easily

I'm gonna have to disagree with that.

The best game on the Genesis, in my opinion, is Streets of Rage 2. I think it's better than any beat 'em up on the SNES and it ranks up there with some of the best games ever made.

The best beat 'em up on SNES would probably be Ninja Warriors Again, but that's just a different kinda game. One plane of movement, no multiplayer...so it likes the variety you'd see in SoR2 but gets by with a well-crafted single player experience. Even then, the depth in SoR2 is incredible and is difficult to match.

Genesis tends to do action games, shooters, and arcade games much better than the SNES thanks to its faster processor. Gunstar Heroes and Thunder Force IV, man.

>> No.1549224

>>1549181
>Better graphics and sound,

SNES graphics are indeed more advanced, but the Megadrive can move more graphics faster.

Better sound is completely subjective. It depends on whether you like muddy low-samplerate pcm synth tunes, or FM tunes that used had criminally awful default patches on most games.

>and it's best games trump the Genesis' best games easily.

The SNES has some absolute wonders, I give it that, but the Megadrive feels like having less shovelware crap, and higher quality arcade-type games. SNES had more RPGs.

I had both as a kid and never really considered one better than the other. Both had good games with great graphics and great music. Hating one over the other is really stupid - they shared the 16bit crown equally.

(if you want a 16bit machine that really sucked, look at the Lynx or the PC Engine)

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>>1549224

Don't talk shit about the PC Engine.

>> No.1549228

>>1549219
SoR2 in Mania mode had the best AI I've ever seen in any videogame until Halo CE.

>> No.1549234

>>1549224
The PC Engine was fucking amazing, you pleb. It had even more great arcade games than the Genesis did.

>> No.1549238

>>1549202
I'm just using RPGs as an example (they're not my cup of tea either). But other than like- shmups and sports games, what ENTIRE GENRE does Genesis really have over SNES?

>>1549219
Fair point that SoR2 is better than any beat em up on the SNES. SoR2 is probably the best console 3/4 beat em up of its entire generation in terms of balance and gameplay, even trumping Final Fight 3.

While I agree that Ninja Warriors Again is great (one of my favorites- I love Natsume), I don't think it should really be compared to 3/4 beat em ups like SoR. Like you said, it's a different kind of game. The SNES has some neat beat em ups- Final Fight 3, the Rushing Beat series, Shodai Nekketsu Kunio Kun, Gourmet Sentai Bara Yarou, etc, but yeah. SoR2. It's good. It's a shame that SoR3 wasn't good (and neither was the console Golden Axe 3, what's the deal?).

Anyway, the Genesis definitely has the upper hand in the arcade department (Sega was in the arcade business, and the system itself was sold on the strength of its arcade ports), and with shooters... but action games in general? No doubt, the Genesis has some sweet action games, but other than stuff like Rocket Knight and Gunstar Heroes (the former developed by a company who mostly developed for the SNES during this era, and the latter developed former employees of the same company), it doesn't have any titles that really stand up to the likes of Contra 3, Castlevania 4, or Megaman X.

>> No.1549240

>>1549224
>if you want a 16bit machine that really sucked, look at the Lynx or the PC Engine
Oh look, yet another guy judging the PC Engine without playing a significant portion of the library.

>> No.1549256

>>1549238
Hard Corps > Contra 3

>> No.1549280

>>1549240
I'm not the poster you're responding to, but I've played a chunk of the PC Engine library myself. It's definitely an interesting system, but in terms of quality, I don't know if it can stand up to the Genesis or SNES in terms of quality software. It has great, great games (the Bonks, the Zonks, Legendary Axe, Gunhed, Ninja Spirit, Parodius, Bloody Wolf, Rondo of Blood, etc), but, like the Genesis, it was released to compete with the NES, all the way back in 1987. The CD add on, released in 1988 at the peak of Japan's economic bubble, extended the system's lifespan considerably, allowing it to compete into the "true" 16-bit era (in Japan, at least) alongside the SNES and Genesis.

All that said, I feel it's difficult to delve deeply into the latter half of the PC Engine's library as a westerner. Many of the PC Engine's famous games are very Japanese intensive RPGs, and difficult to access as an English speaker. Additionally, it seems that nearly all the Japan-only quality games lacking a language barrier are shmups- the bulk of the PC Engine's library, barring what ended up coming out Stateside for the Turbografx, seems to consist mostly of mahjong and quiz games, anime tie-ins, and Portopia-style Japanese adventure games. While I enjoy a number of titles for the system, I can't help but doubt that there's too many more hidden gems waiting to be discovered.

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>>1549226
>>1549234
>>1549240
High five, bros. PC-Engine was a beast, there's a reason it was no. 2 in the console race in Japan. I just started collecting for it this year and I totally understand now. TurboGrafx was pretty sucktacular tho, the U.S. branch had no idea what the fuck they were doing.

>> No.1549310

>>1547791
>It merely was more popular
Funny how you say this completely unironically, but the Genesis was much more popular in europe and in the US until Sega just completely stopped supporting it in late 1995, whereas Nintendo still supported the SNES in all regions until 1998, and in Japan for five years after that.

>> No.1549314

I had both, trust me, they were equal, but i prefer Genesis

>> No.1549317

>>1547062
I prefer the Mega Drive but it's not for any technical reasons or even the games themselves. I just grew up with it and I never had a chance to even see an SNES in my time growing up.

>> No.1549343

Genesis: better control (official 6 button one), better processor for action games, better soundchip for rocking synthpop

SNES: better graphics (lower resolution almost never comes into play), more built in addon support (FX chips, bigger carts, etc), better soundchip for atmospheric tracks (ex: DKC).

Games is an opinion thing. I think Nintendo made better 1st party games than Sega, but not by a large margin. And the Genesis has more good arcade ports.

>> No.1549365

>>1549196
The CD was just better, but the original was still good too.
Not as good Street Fighter of course, but comparable to Mortal Kombat.

>> No.1549372

>>1549209
Killer Instinct is garbage. It had interesting graphix when it came out, but the gameplay was just horrible.

>> No.1549378

>>1547716
>There's no reason in the year 2014 that you can't like both

Agreed and it's not like emulation isn't out there but people seem to stick with and defend what they know and just plain don't like to try new things sometimes

>> No.1549381

>>1549343
>better processor for action games
Actually, the SNES was far more powerful in ever catagory but the processer which it was slightly better then SNES. In actuality, the Genesis was quite weak, there was nearly 5000X times less colours
>better soundchip for rocking synthpop
Actually, in ever sense the SNES had a way superior soundchip, the gensis used more rock and mechanical sounds because since it had a less powerful soundchip, electric sounds like electric gutiar are easier to render.

Lets put it this way, the SNES could easily run Sonic, or any game the genesis played, but a giant library of SNES game could run on the genesis.

sauce below
http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~dherring/cgt141/project1/comparison.html

>> No.1549384

>>1549238
>didn't have anything to stand up to the likes of...

I hate this way of thinking it's pure opinion. how is Megaman "objectively" better than truxton. I know that name gets dropped a lot but seriously it is fucking amazing. the snes doesn't have anything that stands up to toaplan shooters in my own opinion. I like both consoles a lot I just like the megadrive better because its got the best shmups and run n gun games. hardcorps, Gunstar heroes, the good Robocop vs terminator game, midnight resistance (awesome old school contra clone with great music and cool weapons system), alien soldier, mega turrican, Ghostbusters, and top down ones like mercs, and Rambo 3. just because snes games were more well known doesn't mean they are objectively better or anything.

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>>1549381
no the genesis didn't have a weaker sound chip the problem was you actually had to know how to program if you wanted to utilize its z80 which alone was the chip that allowed master system compatiblty. the only thing holding back either soundchip was cart space.


>>1549343
actually the lower resolution comes into play quiet often.

>> No.1549393

>>1549378

I seem to go back and forth regarding an opinion on KI's gameplay.

When I was a kid, I loved it.
As time went by, I thought the gameplayw as kind of stiff and not that good... but I played it recently again the other day with a friend, and I found it fun again, gameplay is definitely not like street fighter or KOF, but it has its own thing going on, pulling off combos feel really good.

I'd say it's at least decent. I mean, if we're going to say Eternal Champions was good, then KI definitely also deserves to be called a good game.

>> No.1549404

>>1549394
The Genesis does have a fairly weak soundchip. Compare it to similar FM on the PC-98 or in the Arcades (or FM soundcards on the PC) and the Genesis is noticeably weak in comparison.

But given that the SNES doesn't use similar technology, you can't really compare them other than to ask which sounds better. While the best on the Genesis is amazing, you must admit that the Genesis has far more games that simply rape your ears with what can only be described as "noise". The SNES on the other hand, sometimes sounds really embarrassing when its trying to rock out.

>> No.1549406

What I love about MD fans is that they're very passionate about their love for the system and its games, it's comparable to N64 fans (the ones that go beyond just Mario and Zelda). In the sense that, yeah, overal, SNES is more popular, but MD still is rocking and the die-hard fans know it, and they're very passionate and like to demonstrate their knowledge about it, while SNES fans mostly say things like "yeah it had better graphics and this, and this masterpiece of gaming", MD fans will actually provide actual information regarding hardware, or dig out obscure games that most people haven't played.

props for my MD niggas, never change.

>> No.1549408

>>1549238
Your beloved kiddie game called Megaman is garbage compared to Shinobi.

>> No.1549439

>>1549404
>Compare it to similar FM on the PC-98 or in the Arcades (or FM soundcards on the PC) and the Genesis is noticeably weak in comparison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lf8h4_TKMY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3YW3eiUyfM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL7eh908WVQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XepAAYXzsY

I think early genesis games didn't sound very good just because memory limitations.

>> No.1549457

>>1549238
Alien Soldier > megacasualshit

>> No.1549472

>>1549439
All of Falcoms games sound pretty much identical on PC88 and Genesis. Same with Popful Mail (the SCD version uses the Genesis for music).

In most cases, the synth on the Genesis has a really harsh tone to it that isn't there on the NEC computers.

>> No.1549504

>>1549472
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii5yWB9_Tgc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcZQEm6_Lgg

>> No.1549556

>>1549439
Some arcade games sounded better in the Genesis port, eg. Midnight Resistance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk1GOyNQZxk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7-AHModlMA

>> No.1550621

>>1547853
You use the term "HURRRRRRRR" about someones opinion and expect anybody to give a damn about your opinion, you are either actually 12 years old or you just never mentally aged past that point.

>> No.1550632

>>1549224
>PC Engine
fuck you too gaijin

>> No.1550649

>>1549408

shinobi 3 is the only good shinobi game

>> No.1550651

addendum: genesis fanboys on /vr/ are some of the most bitter and argumentative manchildren i have ever seen

>> No.1550653

>>1550649
>>1549457
>>1549408

>implying Shinobi, Alien Soldier and Megaman X aren't all excellent action games

Your fanboyism and brand loyalty make you stupid sometimes, /vr/, careful with that, you don't want to end up like /v/, do you?

>> No.1550661

>>1550653
Megaman is undeniably more casual because it allows farming/grinding (no time limit, infinitely respawning enemies, random drops, respawning items on stage restart). Anybody can complete Megaman games if they have enough patience.

>> No.1550667

>>1549343
>SNES: better graphics (lower resolution almost never comes into play)
Never comes into play? 99% of SNES games have a lower resolution than the average Genesis game.
People argue about how important resolution is in the Xbone/PS4 wars, so why is it suddenly not important here?
>>1549381
>Actually, the SNES was far more powerful in ever catagory but the processer which it was slightly better then SNES.
You got that the other way around. The SNES was slightly more powerful in every category except the process, which was a lot worse.
>In actuality, the Genesis was quite weak, there was nearly 5000X times less colours
64 vs 512, learn some maths

>> No.1550670

>>1550661

Ok hardcore boy, they're still great games.

>> No.1550672

>>1550667
It doesn't come into play because your average SNES game still looked better than your average Genesis game even with a lower resolution.

>> No.1550681

>>1547069
>>1547860

these

>> No.1550695

>>1550672
SNES games did look better in general, but they also were total casual games. Graphics is not everything.
Just compare Alien 3 on the MD/Genesis and pn the SNES for example...
SNES to me, were always nice and sweet, but at the same time they always were as if you play fucking nothing,
while playing Alien on Mega Drive was a real challenge were sometimes really just shit in your pants.

>> No.1550705

>>1550695

Man, you sure are a true hardcore gamer.

>> No.1550710

>>1550705
I wouldnt consider myself a hardcore gamer, I just don't like playing shallow games. To me a game must be challenging to make fun, especially when it comes to retro games.

>> No.1550738

>>1550710
>I wouldnt consider myself a hardcore gamer

You're also very humble, I see.

>> No.1550797

>>1549256
And I bet you're going to try to say the gensis castlevania was better than 4 right.

>> No.1550804

>>1550797
Not him, but actually it was, indeed.

>> No.1550805

>>1550797
not him either but OH dear god yes it's much better SCIV isnt even that good.

>> No.1550807

>>1550672
>your average SNES game still looked better than your average Genesis game even with a lower resolution.
In still images, perhaps.

>> No.1550814

>>1550797
>>1550804
>>1550805

>implying they're not both fantastic

I swear, you fanboys are huge faggots.

>> No.1550827

>>1550814
I was just joking on that one. Castlevania 4 has better graphics and sound, imo. The leve design also looks much better. However, on the Mega Drive the pacing is better and I think you have more moves. It's just faster and more agile. Both are quite good, but IV is still better, I think.

However, when it comes to Contra, Mega Drive is better. No doubt about it. The SNES version may be the original, but it just looks like a watered down Mega Drive version in the end.

>> No.1550838

>>1547062
why do people keep making THIS thread. tons of other, less heated, and more productive things to talk about.
>inb4 i don't like thing
I didn't even read the thread

>> No.1551087

>>1547875
I loved Bill Clinton Baseball
>Genesis does
>What Nintendon't
>like have shitty sound
>and usually shittier ports
>and fucks up fighting games
I have and use both, so meh.

>> No.1551092

>>1550827
>The SNES version may be the original, but it just looks like a watered down Mega Drive version in the end.

You're aware they're completely different games, right?

I like Hard Corps more, but Contra III is still a great Contra game except for the top down view levels

>> No.1551272

>>1551092

Not to mention that Hard Corps was released a full 2 years later.

Either way, both great games...

>> No.1551293

>>1551087

The Genesis tended to handle action ports better than SNES.

>> No.1551321

>>1551087

>fucks up fighting games

Like? Street Fighter 2 (except by SFX), Garou 1 and 2, Mortal Kombat series and Samurai Spirits did a pretty good job on Genesis, and in Garou and SS case they are way better in Genesis than SNES, IMO. The only superb fighting games I remember which doesn't have a port to Mega Drive are Power Rangers/Gundam Wing ED and Street Fighter Alpha Now Loading 2.

>> No.1551351

>>1551087
Most ports were better on the Genesis, son.

>> No.1551352

I vote NEO GEO

>> No.1551365

>>1547062
my vote goes to the Genesis. It had inferior specs, but it had the better games
>motherfuckin Gunstar Heroes and Vectorman
Sonic 1 really isn't worth its reputation though. more often than not just plain frustratingly slow levels for a game that sells speed as it's main feature.

>> No.1551384

SNES wins because it had more original lasting titles, while Genesis was heavily populated by forgettable clones. That said both systems had their share of must have titles and despite both systems limitations, they both were successful platforms. Though the Genesis was never popular in Japan and it's followup, the Saturn was never popular outside of Japan.

>> No.1551394

everyone posting in this thread (except for some of the more rational people) could do with watching this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnX36Qrc0WA

>> No.1551409

>>1547062

both

>> No.1551414

>brag about SHMUP
>on the platforms that butchers them compared to arcade

If you really cared about that copycat genre you'd play them on MAME.

>> No.1551419

>>1550651

Would you blame them?
Imagine being the kid on the block forced to play Altered Beast and Sonic at nauseam while the popular kids are playing Mario, Zelda, Super Metroid, Super Castlevania, Chrono Trigger, Donkey Kong Country, Mario Kart etc.etc.

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>>1551419
>Super Castlevania,

>> No.1551448

>>1551419
I think you're confused. No "cool kids" were playing SNES back in the day. They were ridiculed and mocked and more often than not hid the fact that they played Super Mario World

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>>1551419
>>1551448
>this "argument" is actually happening right now

>> No.1551475

>>1551419
>research actually showed SNES kids didn't want to admit to owning a SNES

>> No.1551749

>>1551092
Of course I am aware of this. I also never said that Contra III isnt a great game.
Just because a game is different, doesnt mean it cant be another version of another game.

>>1551272
If people compare Mega Drive to SNES here, why not compare Contra III to HC? Mega Drive also came out earlier.

>> No.1551762

>>1551448
snes was the shit from what i remember of elementary school

>> No.1551776

>>1551749
Alien 3 is also totally different on the MD than on the SNES, still its totally legitimate to call them MD or SNES versions.

The Contra games differ from each other of course, but they are still the two 16 bit Contra versions, while the SNES version is the original 16 bit version. However MDs version is better.

>> No.1551792

>>1551419
>it was more popular so its better
I bet you also think Justin Bieber is a great musician.

>> No.1551816

>>1551419
Nice kiddie games you listed there, but I rather prefer my Ecco, Shinobi and Jungle Strike.

Also who cares about Metroid if you can play your old Commodore 64 shooter named Turrican on Mega Drive?

>> No.1551864

>>1551792
we knew both system (and nowadays kids don't know old school musicians)

>> No.1551921

>>1551816
>Also who cares about Metroid if you can play your old Commodore 64 shooter named Turrican on Mega Drive?
Come on, the music in that port is fucking shit.

i would have loved a good porting of Turrican in md ;_;

>> No.1551942

Turbographix is still the best though.

>> No.1551945

>>1551942
TurboGrafx*

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>>1547847
gotta love those credit card sized games.

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>>1551964
the wallet does close btw.

>> No.1551973

>>1551942
RIP in piece, based Hudson.

>> No.1552008

for my tastes, I always preferred the mega drive, since I really like short, arcadey games where the goal is to beat a score etc.
that's not to say I haven't enjoyed a ton of games on the super nintendo, but I'm not really the biggest fan of JRPGs so that particular part of the library is completely impenetrable to me. never been able to get into either FF6 or chrono trigger, for example.

I think a lot of my preference is down to having a mega drive as a kid, though. so many memories of heading to swap shops and judging games solely on their (often awful) boxart.

>> No.1552023

>>1549209
>Killer Instinct
Oh boy, block and counter...the game.
Genesis was better.

>> No.1552041

>20 year old console war

nah, I'll play both.

>> No.1552045

>>1551419
I feel terrible for doing Guntar Heros and Bio-Hazard Battle co-op, woe is me. Life was such shit.

If you could encapsulate the 90's in console form you would get the Genesis.

>> No.1552467

>>1549404
>another GEMS victim

>> No.1552528

>>1551414
Are you refering to Gradius 3 and Super R-Type right? because i never had problems with my delicious Truxton and Fire Shark.

>> No.1552727

>>1551414
everybody point at this faggot and laugh

>> No.1552792

>>1552008
You and I are total opposites, anon. I played jrpgs exclusively as a kid, so snes was my preferred console. Nowadays as an older anon I'm getting into all the platformers I hated as a dumb kid. I own a genesis now and love many of its games. Playing Gunstar Heroes right now. We'd get along. Who says Americans and Europeans can't be friends? Not me.

>> No.1553659

>>1547791

I dare you to call the SNES "casual" after playing Umihara Kawase.

>> No.1553662

>>1547181
Haha even worse, prepare to be super disappointed in me... I was born in 1992 and yet my first console was a phone (at the height of the PS2 BTW) and I finally bought an Xbox when Halo 2 came out.

>> No.1553731

>>1551419
>he actually thinks the Super Nintendo was "cool" with anyone over the age of 10
Every kid that mocked the Super Nintendo for it's "kiddie games" and neutered Mortal Kombat says you are a retard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPV-wS6BcYg

>> No.1553732

the cool kids were playing neither genesis or snes and were actually doing things like hanging out with friends and playing sports. hth

>> No.1553739

>>1553732
I played sports. I played MD/Genesis. I played SNES. I hung about with friends. I went out. Not everyone has to choose one activity for the entirety of their childhood and teen years. Most of us aren't so autistic as to choose to do that. Rather, most of us did some mix. htfuckingh.

>> No.1553742

>>1553732
Speak for yourself son. Back in the day we played basketball, baseball, manhunt & a shit ton of video games.

>> No.1555771

>>1553731
Kids in my school thought playing video games was gay and dorkish, so it didn't matter if you played SNES or Genesis, you were a gay dork. Playing kick ball, basketball, going down the slide and climbing on the monkey bars was where it was at. My mom was real over protective, so I didn't get to go out and play a lot unless it was under strict supervision. Staying in and playing video games, up until I was about 12-13 was what she preferred.

>> No.1555802

>>1547062
Console war. Console war never changes.

>> No.1555804

>>1547062
IBM AT is the superior computer

>> No.1555814

Video games are for fags, calculators are where its at. You can 5318008, turn it upside down and it spells boobies!

>> No.1556113

>>1550661
>Anybody can complete Megaman games if they have enough patience
>Anybody can complete any game if they have enough patience.

>> No.1556184

>1550827
>Castlevania 4 had better graphics

It blows my mind that people actually say this, to me 4 is probably the ugliest out of main Castlevaniaa games and generally sup-par for SNES. I understand they were going for a darker feel but it just makes th3 graphics terribly aged. Some good monster sprites but it just looks muddy and bad, still turns me off.

Bloodlines had a grest graphical style that holds up easily.

>> No.1556263

>>1556184
B-but muh mode 7 fuckhead!

>> No.1556281

>>1556184
I agree although I find neither game fun to play. CV4 is a bit too slow and clunky for my tastes and I can't quite put my finger on why I dislike CVBL. CVBL is better to look at than SCVIV.

>> No.1556287

>>1556184
It's called an opinion, dude.

Just like how I prefer how Kojima draws CV characters to any other artist that's worked on the series.