/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1539918]

Has there even been a RPG as shitty as this one ? Holy fuck it's bad, I mean, really fucking awful.

Look at it ! Even the box art is HIDEOUS

[Anonymous No.1539925]

>>1539918
that loli and valkyrie are making me uncomfortable

[Anonymous No.1539945]

I've been saying that since day one of /vr/ and have been repeating it fairly regularly as of late. Have you decided to play it because of one of my posts touting it as the very worst RPG ever made, ever? Fuck that game.

[Anonymous No.1539961]

>>1539945

No, I just remember it from my childhood. Retried it recently and it's even worse than I remembered

[Anonymous No.1539965]

brb downloading it now

[Anonymous No.1539974]

>>1539961
Ugh, you too? I'm sorry you had to deal with that. After playing it, I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

[Anonymous No.1539969]

[Anonymous No.1539971]

>>1539918
Didn't you make this thread already?

[Anonymous No.1539978]

Maka Maka, it's unfinished, buggy, and you can kill the last boss' final form in one hit. I wonder if that was intentional. Looks fun, at least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGXPy_HDz7Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmlS9Y0Mits

[Anonymous No.1540001]

>>1539965
Ugh, B opens the menu? And closes it, too? This feels weird already and I'm only two minutes in.

[Anonymous No.1540006]

>>1540001

Don't islands experience tsunamis, not earthquakes?

Anyways, sure thing mom, I WILL BE VERY CAREFUL!

[Anonymous No.1540010]

>>1540006
OK I'm already halfway ready to give up, right here.

[Anonymous No.1540015]

>>1539971
see >>1539945
It may have been me (>>1539945) you've seen and not OP.
It's a shitty, shitty game.

>>1540006
In my language, our word for 'tsunami' translates into English as 'sea quake.' I'm not entirely sure, but where I grew up, giant waves weren't uncommon and were caused by seismic activity offshore.

[Anonymous No.1540023]

>>1540010
Does...does this village only consist of my house? Maybe the combat will be ok...

[Anonymous No.1540026]

>>1540015
Just looked up the wiki article for our 'sea quake' and clicked on the English language link; it directs to the English article for tsunami, so yeah: they're the same thing. I wonder why English lacks a word for this concept and uses such a foreign language for it when several European languages have words for the same concept, mine among them?

[Anonymous No.1540028]

>>1540010

Wait till you see the combat

[Anonymous No.1540039]

>>1540023
Well, this is unfortunate, but not the game's fault.

Anyway, I am in a place called Likado. Just in case I had forgotten that, a helpful NPC reminded me about five seconds after the text saying "LIKADO" disappeared that I was, in face, in Likado.

[Anonymous No.1540048]

>>1540039
OH MY GOD, the guy who saves your game is called Uncle Save.

AAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.1540058]

>>1540048
I...what?

[Anonymous No.1540068]

>>1540058

I'm sure you will ragequit before you even leave the island.

[Anonymous No.1540069]

>>1540058
This menu feels overly cumbersome, and I feel overleveled for these encounters already.

Anyways, this island is fucking tiny, and I can't see any obvious entrances to that volcano that laughs evilly (according to some girl). Time to Talk to Every Single Person in Town!

[Anonymous No.1540080]

>>1540069

COMING IN 2015, THE NEW JEEP VOLCANO! IT GETS 5 MPG HIGHWAY AND RUNS ON PETRIFIED DINOSAUR SHIT!

[Anonymous No.1540092]

>>1540080
He wears a disguise to look like feline guys, but he's not a cat, he's a ca-at boo.

Fuck you, close enough. Who even remembers Animaniacs?

[Anonymous No.1540107]

>>1540092
What the hell was that all about, anyway?

I'm gonna have some dinner, does anyone want me to go on with this?

[Anonymous No.1540117]

>>1540107

Go ahead, im watching. Also, isnt Cat-Boo really fucking hard to beat ? I remember he does a shitton more damage than anything else at this point.

[Anonymous No.1540139]

>>1539918
>Has there even been a RPG as shitty as this one
Hold onto your butt, OP. You're not even fucking ready for this shit.

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/stargazer/stargazer.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deMyZuGbt9k

[Anonymous No.1540146]

>>1540092
Aunt Slappy is my waifu

[Anonymous No.1540303]

Fuck you guys. This game had some good aspects. Like if you do the (I think) optional shit to recruit various people to build that town and it gradually grows larger. And the whole separate party thing was kind of cool if you wanted to devote a lot of extra time to do the optional dungeons and whatnot. You're all making me want to play it again and actually beat it this time.

[Anonymous No.1540310]

>>1540146
do you even rita

Minerva was just entry level

[Anonymous No.1540323]

>>1540139
I can't believe someone actually that piece of shit. Tried on it emulator once and my eyes began to hurt.

[Anonymous No.1540326]

>>1540310
Rita is my second favorite, but I'm a lot like Aunt Slappy personality wise

[Anonymous No.1540337]

>>1540006
Islands can have both. See Japanese earthquake and tsunami of 2011.

[Anonymous No.1541589]

So... got off the island yet ?

[Anonymous No.1541671]

>>1540107
Uhh...yes? I really should rename my character.

[Anonymous No.1541683]

>>1541671
Keep going this is amusing

[Anonymous No.1541685]

>>1541671
Wow, that cave really WAS hidden. Oh well, through a series of checking every single tile on the island, I seem to have found the cave to the 2015 Jeep Volcano.

I'm currently level 3 and haven't bought any new gear so I expect I should probably get my ass handed to me.

[Anonymous No.1541702]

>>1541685
So the monsters here are just as easy. The only new ones I've seen are pigmen that run away from me half the time.

AND THEN THIS HAPPENED.

[Anonymous No.1541708]

>>1541702
After a series of rather amusing visual and sound effects, I apparently became pennon.

Pennon (noun) - a streamer attached to a lance, a small triangular flag, or a pinion or wing.

This game is slapping a diaper on my brain.

[Anonymous No.1541717]

>>1541708
So David joined me, told me I have to become a Saint Warrior, then he turned into a tent. Fantastic, also I can SWAP into him from the menu now.

[Anonymous No.1541728]

>>1541717
Alright, found ANOTHER hidden cave that contained some old dude who said something about 2 colours and then laughed like Santa Clause.

So here I am at the Jeep Volcano. I still haven't upgraded my gear, so I should almost certainly be killed here, yes? Wish I had talked to my Uncle Save recently.

[Anonymous No.1541732]

>>1541728
Forgot pic, sorry.

[Anonymous No.1541731]

>Uncle Save
>I apparently became pennon.
>he turned into a tent.
this game sounds amazing when you describe it

[Anonymous No.1541743]

>>1540048
>Uncle Save

[Anonymous No.1541753]

>>1541743
>Hey Uncle Save, I wanna continue now
"Shorry kid, Unchle Saev got a bits tipsy and forgetted it all"

Where did Uncle Save touch you in your sleep?

[Anonymous No.1541772]

>>1540139
>the unmodified version uses passwords that do not save your character's level or position - anytime you punch one in, you start back at the beginning of the game at level 0

This alone is already enough. I don't even want to imagine actually playing a game with that.

[Anonymous No.1541794]

>Ctrl+F Lagoon
>0 Results

[Anonymous No.1541807]

That box art is epically shitty. Who would've thought that at one time in history faggot alt-art hugboxers would have had a chance at a small illustrator career.

[Anonymous No.1541870]

>>1541732
Goddamn, these earthquakes are getting annoying. And these enemies are still pushovers.

[Anonymous No.1541885]

>>1541870
Getting pretty deep into this volcano. However, I'm out of Plum-Plums and Antidotes. I'm probably about to find out what happens when you get KO'd, I think.

[Anonymous No.1541889]

>>1541885
CAT BOO! WE MEET AGAIN!

[Anonymous No.1541901]

>>1541889
Cat Boo was much easier this time around. But THEN...

GUISE I FOUND A NOMALHAT! AND THEN I GOT IT!! I NEEDED TWO EXCLAMATION POINTS TO IMPRESS UPON YOU HOW HARD I GOT THAT NOMALHAT

But in all seriousness, some new gear is great.

[Anonymous No.1541906]

>>1541901

[Anonymous No.1541907]

>>1540048
If he is my uncle, why is he introducing himself to me? Don't I know my own uncle? Or is "Uncle" just his first name? Actually, wait, I think I know the answer. This game is probably translated from Japanese, right? Well in Japanese, the words for "uncle" and "middle-aged man" are the same word, so he's probably supposed to be called "Save Man" but they fucked it up and now he's called "Uncle Save".

[Anonymous No.1541913]

>>1541906
Wow, holy shit, that BONE is wrecking my shit. I think I'm done for, here.

[Anonymous No.1541917]

I loved that game so so so much as a child (although I was probably 4 years old back then) and the disappointment was massive when I replayed it much later.

[Anonymous No.1541919]

>>1541913
Welp, woke up outside my house surrounded by the strange men on my lawn. Half my gold is gone. I think these two things might be related.

Oh well, good place to stop for now. Back later, fellow /vr/ anons.

[Anonymous No.1541976]

>>1539918
What company was responsible for this RPG?

[Anonymous No.1542065]

>>1539918

Ever try "The Grinch"? (BoE scen)

I've not played the game in your OP, but I'm sure The Grinch is worse.

[Anonymous No.1542191]

>>1541919
Alright, motherfucker BONE, I'm coming for your ass now. 2 extra levels and some upgraded gear, plus I actually rested and have some MP to use now.

[Anonymous No.1542209]

>>1542191
WHOA, hydrocephalic twins ahoy. Was that mean? I'm only saying this because more than 50% of their total mass is made of head. How do they even close their mouths?

[Anonymous No.1542223]

>>1542209
So after a few more run-ins with CAT BOO I found this room.

[Anonymous No.1542232]

>>1542223
...you're gonna try to kill me after this monologue, aren't you, Dr. Gari.

[Anonymous No.1542245]

>>1542232
Whoa, ouch, doc. Another 60 blows like that and I might need to cast a heal spell or something.

Apparently this island is called HEART ISLAND, and he wants to destroy it for lord HOMNCRUSE. That eight-character limit is a real bitch to work with sometimes, I guess.

[Anonymous No.1542261]

>>1542245
Yowch, that did like 10 damage. OK maybe Dr. Gari isn't such a pantywaist.

I also now realise that HOMNCRUSE is nine letters long. Still a dumb name, though.

[Anonymous No.1542273]

>>1542261
Oh boy, I hope he gives a death speech that tells me exactly what I should do next while assuring me that I will fail utterly!

[Anonymous No.1542279]

>>1542273
Or yeah, that. The old "kill the boss and his lair explodes" routine is an well-worn hat, too, I guess. No chance I could just flip that off, then?

[Anonymous No.1542284]

>>1541976

Tecmo.

After this got panned they wouldn't try releasing another RPG for fifteen years (Nostalgia on the Nintendo DS).

[Anonymous No.1542290]

>>1542279
Yeah, I'm hip, daddy-o.

Also, where am I?

[Anonymous No.1542303]

>>1542290
In a biplane? I was rescued from the centre of an exploding volcano...by someone in a biplane?

No, sorry, that absolutely must be a MAGIC biplane, because otherwise that would make, like, zero sense.

[Anonymous No.1542312]

>>1542303
It sure is, Uncle Save!

{cue laughter}

NEXT TIME ON THE BIG BANG THEORY! SUP vr MUST GATHER THE 4 AQUTALLIONS AND 11 KUSTERAS TO BUILD A TOWN AND DEFEAT LORD HOMNCRUSE!

Probably done for the day on this, catch you later anons.

[Anonymous No.1542335]

>>1542312
we'll be waiting

[Anonymous No.1542390]

>>1542284
Why would tecmo make a game for the tecmo RPG series sold by tecmo about the tecmo secret of the stars.

This looks like a namco game to me.

[Anonymous No.1542486]

Come on, guys. It's not that bad.

[Anonymous No.1542495]

There's certainly worse RPG's out there.

Picture related is definitely one 'em, if not the worst ever.

[Anonymous No.1542503]

>>1539925
The pink-haired girl is making a ">she sees your penis" face.

[Anonymous No.1542514]

>>1542503
They're all making "I see your penis" faces.

[Anonymous No.1542787]

I actually enjoyed this trainwreck enough to beat it. I have the cart still. lol
It is garbage, though, but y'know...nostalgia

[Anonymous No.1542834]

Is this the RPG where you switch between two parties?

I remember there being one like that I played back in theday.. but I remember actually liking it

[Anonymous No.1542965]

I dunno.

The first Lufia was pretty bad.

[Anonymous No.1542974]

>>1541772
I watched a guy on Nico Nico Douga play through the entire game on a cart. Took him about 2 months.

There are 3 endings. It doesn't matter what you do throughout the game -- the ending is determined by the question that you are asked at the very end. In fact, the difference between endings is only about 3-4 lines of text. The graphics are all the same.

[Anonymous No.1543378]

Homina, homina, homina, Croooooooooooooooze!

Yeah, this game blows, and I couldn't get past the opening sequence.

[Anonymous No.1543526]

Tecmo was so proud of this turd that they put their company name in the title. You think they regret that decision?

[Anonymous No.1543547]

>>1542965
Not really, the way they made all recovery items and tools you find in the dungeons useful to reward exploring felt a lot like how rpgs should be.
And the dialog is really pleasing and well translated. I've seen far worse.

[Anonymous No.1546084]

>>1539918
For some reason, I remember liking the OST. Or maybe I'm just misremembering.

Either way, it's definitely up there with 7th Saga and LotR.

[A Technician No.1546151]

>>1543547
>move forward 3 steps
>random battle
>forget which way I was heading after so many random battles and what I was doing
>stop playing for a week
>feel the urge to play it and finish it.
>what the fuck was I doing?
>start over
rinse and repeat or just play the 2nd one because it's the best fucking game on the system

[Anonymous No.1546175]

>>1539969

There was a reason they only made one volume.

[Anonymous No.1546250]

>>1539969

christ. I think my blood pressure rose just from seeing that fucking box art

did you guys play the pc version of this and the two towers? now those were legit

[Anonymous No.1546652]

>>1539918
Wait until THIS happens.

[Anonymous No.1546654]

>>1546084
What makes the 7th Saga a bad game?

[Anonymous No.1546653]

>>1546652
The follow-up

[Anonymous No.1546660]

>>1539969
>go to the video store
>they don't have Super Mario RPG which I wanted to rent
>"This game is just like that, anon :)"
>mfw playing it

[Anonymous No.1546674]

>>1546653
>>1546652

[Anonymous No.1548087]

where the hell is playthru-anon? this was bringing back vibes of FFMQ and was moderately entertaining

[Anonymous No.1548097]

Virtual Hydlide, Hydlide, Two Worlds and Lunar: Dragon Song

[Anonymous No.1548101]

>>1546151
the ancient cave's randomly generated level idea should have been implemented into future games of all kinds. i had so much hope for the future of gaming then. but since then levels/areas/dungeons/whatever have turned into nothing but hallways save points or autosave every 5 minutes of gameplay.
pic related: if FFXV: The Phantom Game ends up being lame im done with video games

[Anonymous No.1548121]

>>1546654
Nothing. Anon just couldn't beat regular-ass everyday monsters once he got to Pandam/Padal/Dowaine cuz he didn't beat enough Brains on Eygus Island.

[Anonymous No.1548189]

>>1548087
thats more of an evolution of final fantasy than the entire genre

[Anonymous No.1548781]

>>1539969
How the fuck does this exist?

Pretty sure the SNES died out long before any of the movies were made.

[Anonymous No.1548792]

>>1548781
you got me

[Anonymous No.1548808]

I heard about your like of Aqutallion.

http://retrojrpg.thefannish.org/?p=208

[Anonymous No.1548809]

>>1548781
yeah, like those star wars games that where out years before episode 1

[Anonymous No.1548812]

This is actually from the jp game's manual!

[Anonymous No.1548817]

>>1548812
you can download its manual here

http://www.videogameden.com/sfc.htm?aqt

[Anonymous No.1549031]

>>1548781
This is either a clever troll or a terrifying social commentary on the death of literature in modern society and the crippling stupidity associated with it


Can never really tell around here....

[Anonymous No.1549049]

>>1548812
>That middle finger

THEY KNEW. THEY FUCKING KNEW. That artist is a smug fucker.

[Anonymous No.1549761]

Walked through a narrow mountain pass, found a LETHSUIT and a new town called WINDS. Oh yes, folks, it's that time again.

[Anonymous No.1549786]

>>1549761
And they say disco is dead.

[Anonymous No.1549794]

>>1549786
>buzzwords
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.1549801]

>>1539969
>that ever-hopeful 'volume 1'
They really felt they did good.

[Anonymous No.1549802]

>>1549794
That's ok, I'm goodgood and I know an edgy architect. I'm sure we'll fix your town.

[Anonymous No.1549808]

>>1549794
Forgot pic.

[Anonymous No.1549809]

>>1549031
Or a joke. You do know what jokes are, don't you, Anon?

[Anonymous No.1549825]

>>1549808
Well shit. I need to find that key. And some girl named Tina, according to an old man who urged me to hurry whilst talking my fucking ear off.

[Anonymous No.1549842]

>>1549825
It's at this moment I realize I actually don't know enough about the actual Bee Gees to make any kind of decent joke.

[Anonymous No.1549847]

>>1540139

God, I've never could think that a game could be worse than SotS, but this wins by far.

[Anonymous No.1549852]

>>1549842
This is the weapon shopkeeper. When I asked to see his wares, he instead decided to tell me his favourite youth rap star.

Then I noticed he was a dog, or something.

[Anonymous No.1549868]

>>1549852
In the centre of town, I spotted some BADMANs attacking who I presume to be TINA. Their ringleader asked who the heck I was, then told his BADMANs to "Get him?" like he wasn't entirely sure.

Maybe he was confused that I wasn't a dog, and has never seen a person before. Anyways, off to kick these BADMAN's asses.

[Anonymous No.1549884]

>>1549868
How exactly does that work? BADBAD just sounds like kind of a dumbdumb.

[Anonymous No.1549889]

>>1549884
Am I EVER going to get an explanation about what the FUCK that even means?

[Anonymous No.1550126]

>>1542974
Sounds similar to a game I've played...

[Anonymous No.1550175]

>>1548812
>>1548808
time, ms paint, ect

[Anonymous No.1550241]

>>1549884
>dog pill
lmao

[Anonymous No.1550249]

>>1549884
What is this, Axe Cop?

[Anonymous No.1550332]

>>1542312
i enjoyed it. It was 100x better than most lets plays on youtube right now.

[Anonymous No.1550338]

>>1550332
to be fair, so is a root canal

[Anonymous No.1550350]

>>1549884
>BADBAD CHANGED TOWNSPEOPLE INTO DOGS.

I'm dying of laughter over here.

[Anonymous No.1550354]

>>1548808
>PROTIPx6
>Graphics: 3.5
>Sound: 3.5
Why are the faces different for the same score? Control and FunFactor have the same face and score. So game "journalism" has always been shit. Good to know.

[Anonymous No.1550357]

>>1550354
For all the reasons to call game journalism shit, slipping up and putting the wrong image for a review scale is not one of them.

[Anonymous No.1550378]

>>1539969
I remeber liking this game.

It's somehow connected to the Rankin Bass films/Ralph Bachshi film.

It's not a awful adventure game, but it's too fucking
BIG
I MEAN FUCKING HUGE for its own good.

Also the combats pretty awful.

I enjoyed it when I was a kid. Now it's just some mediocre adventure game.

[Anonymous No.1551286]

>>1550354
It must be a hidden code for don't buy this shit.

[Anonymous No.1551338]

>>1539918
The character with the brown hair kinda looks like an anime Tig Notaro.

[Anonymous No.1551354]

Hoshi wo Miru Hito on NES and Burai - Hachigyoku no Yuushi Densetsu on SNES

The screenshot is from the SNES one.

[Anonymous No.1551364]

>>1551354
disgusting

[Anonymous No.1551371]

>>1551364

[Anonymous No.1551858]

>Not renaming Tina after the girl you currently like

[Anonymous No.1553204]

>>1548808
Game pro reviews....always selling games as better then they were. That's why I only ever owned a few copies. I have dozens on egm, game informer, psm, gamers republic/play...

Game pro sucked. I sniffed that out when I was a kid...
Now that kind of "journalism" Is about all you see. I can understand when someone finds a game over hyped that yell really loud at the lier ' s today.

[Anonymous No.1553239]

>>1546654
Unless patched the game's scaling and AI is intensely broken. The only way to beat the latter half is to grind yourself for near eternity and even then it is a crapshoot.

[Anonymous No.1553242]

Even as a kid reading Nintendo Power when they did their article on this game I thought it looked like cheap shit. I was still curious if it had any value to it but I knew at first glance that I wouldn't be asking for it at Christmas or anything.

[Anonymous No.1553313]

Secret of the stars wasn't great, and while every piece of dialogue sucked or was not accurate enough to be helpful, it at least did some neat things, like having two parties you could switch between, and an assload of people to recruit which was a neat little novelty at the time. Also the combo system for your main party. Really the worst thing was the part where you are forced to use the secondary party after probably not using them the entire game since you weren't required to before that point, and then you gotta grind forever.

[Anonymous No.1553426]

>>1550126
Me too...

[Anonymous No.1553484]

>>1540006
>>1540010
>>1540039
>>1540048
>>1540058
>>1540080
>>1540092
>>1541671
>>1541702
>>1541708
>>1541732
>>1541906
>>1541913
>>1542232
>>1542245
>>1542261
>>1542273
>>1542279
>>1542290
>>1542312
>>1546652
>>1546653
>>1549761
>>1549786
>>1549794
>>1549808
>>1549825
>>1549842
>>1549852
>>1549868
>>1549884
>>1549889
>EVERYTHING IN FUCKING CAPS
that's some shitty programming

[Anonymous No.1553560]

>>1553204
They think Secret of the Stars is better looking then Phantasy Star 4.

[Anonymous No.1553569]

>>1553313
Agreed. This game retranslated on the Japanese cart with a good font would probably be an enjoyable jrpg experience.

[Anonymous No.1553847]

>>1553560

[Anonymous No.1553849]

>>1553484
WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU. SPEAK UP

[Anonymous No.1553889]

Golden Sun, but that isn't retro.

[Anonymous No.1553906]

>>1553484
That's not really a programming issue as much as it probably only has the one font set in it, if I had a rom dumped I could confirm it one way or another, if it is just the one font then it's just them not giving a shit and wanting to get it over and done with and not setting up another font bed. Real basic level decision before they would have done translating the text.

[Anonymous No.1553918]

>>1553906
Playthru-anon here.

No, there's an entire lowercase alphabet ready to go, as should be apparent because my character's name is "SUP vr." The decision to go all caps remains a mystery.

[Anonymous No.1553920]

>>1553918
Delicious, crunchy proof.

[Anonymous No.1553928]

>>1553918
Have you defeated SOS and proved the dignity of your culture yet?

[Anonymous No.1553932]

>>1553889
But that's wrong. Unless you mean DD.

[Anonymous No.1553958]

beyond the beyond

[Anonymous No.1554019]

So, will we evr see who BADBAD is ? What will happen to all the people transformed into dogs ?!

[Anonymous No.1554036]

>>1541794

Lagoon has some big, obvious, stupid problems, but it's a functioning (i.e., not especially broken) action/maze game at heart, so it's never going to be on the same level of tedium as a really bad JRPG.

[Anonymous No.1554039]

>>1542261

they coulda done something like HOMENCRUZ, like at least get in a vowel between every pair of incompatible consonants... maybe the translator wasn't actually fluent in English though

[Anonymous No.1554043]

>>1548101

A fair number of games have used randomly generated levels since then... some of them are even good.

[Anonymous No.1554047]

>>1554036
I like Lagoon. I liked the staff/crystal system. It was nifty.

[Anonymous No.1554048]

[Anonymous No.1554053]

>>1548809

hahaha

[Anonymous No.1554074]

>>1553242

yeah I learned about it from Nintendo Power too, and although Nintendo Power made it sound basically fairly good like they did with most games, they still admitted that it was some kind of stripped-down version of a "real" RPG, and that made it obvious that there was no good reason to play it

[Anonymous No.1554086]

>>1554047

Yeah that was fairly cool. Although I think there were some big balance problems amongst the spells? Like, if you were on a screen with two or three dangerous enemies, you could either kill them pretty quickly, albeit one at a time, with your cheap projectile spells... or kill them slightly faster with some super-expensive full-screen spell that'd leave you crippled for lack of MP? I don't remember ever actually finding a use for the bigger, cooler spells....

I had fun with the game as a kid, anyway. And even if I played it now, I wouldn't like it nearly as much but I'd still have more fun than I would with a game like Secret of the Stars. Lagoon's weirdo tiny-sword challenge is much more interesting than some entry-level JRPG's nonexistent have-you-done-enough-grinding challenge.

[Anonymous No.1554090]

>>1554048
Oh no you didn't!

[Anonymous No.1554108]

Finally I have an excuse to post this.

[Anonymous No.1554126]

>>1549889

And what comes next?

[Anonymous No.1554132]

>>1554019
>So, will we evr see who BADBAD is ?

I think we all know the answer: MAAAAYYYYBE!

[Anonymous No.1554168]

>>1554086
SotS is total shit.

I enjoyed Lagoon as a tyke but I've not touched it in like 20 years. A friend of mine and I were working on a game using a magic system inspired by the staff/crystal system from Lagoon. It was meant to be some SRPG that utilised several magic systems for each of several character classes. One such class, Shamans, used a combination of fetishes, such as staffs, foci and crystals, to various in-game effects.

[Anonymous No.1554436]

>nintendo power

[Anonymous No.1554438]

>>1554436
2nd page

[Anonymous No.1554443]

>>1554438
3rd

[Anonymous No.1554448]

>>1554443
4th

[Anonymous No.1554452]

finally the nintendo power "review"

[Anonymous No.1554473]

>>1554452
>giving a shit about ROM size

Those were the days.

[Anonymous No.1554827]

>>1554473
Remember when Nintendo power boasted about the "Whooping 24 megabits" of Super Metroid?

Ah the days of over hyping the size when no one knew the hell bits and bytes meant, now people complain when a game is extremely fuck huge

[Anonymous No.1554836]

>>1554452
That makes me nostalgic, that NP layout.

>>1554827
Huge games are only a big deal when they're digital or otherwise require a large install to play. It's a bit different because then (in regards to console games), you just threw a cart into your system and turned it on instead of having to wait for a long download or install.

[Anonymous No.1554851]

>>1554827
Uncharted 3 is a 40GB download. That's worth complaining about, and doesn't even include any of the add-ons like multiplayer.

[Anonymous No.1554859]

>>1554851
Pretty much why I hate Storage on consoles and the like.

[Anonymous No.1554868]

>>1554851
>elder scrolls online requires 60 gigs for download/install

[Anonymous No.1554875]

We all know we wanted this as a kid

[Anonymous No.1554926]

>>1539918
It was pretty bad, but it's hardly the worst thing ever. There's no need to get dramatic about it, OP.

Technically speaking, it holds up okay. There are no major bugs, everything works the way it's "supposed" to, and it's more or less a workable RPG. It's just an extremely uninspired, by the numbers plot with hard-as-balls design and shit art direction.
I can't help but think that it would have been remembered more fondly if it had come out for the NES, around the time of Dragon Warrior IV. That's about the level it's at. But it came out on the SNES, and, well, fuck that bullshit.

When I was a kid, my neighbor rented it from the video store and I would come over to watch him and his mom play it; this was a frequent way for me to pass the time, since they were both pretty big on console games at the time.
Anyway, they managed to get up to around two thirds through the game, around the time the B-Party becomes mandatory and you have to start taking them through their dungeons. It took them three rentals to make it that far, in part due to the ridiculous difficulty curve, along with its tendency to not tell you what you were supposed to be doing. Because of those factors, they finally hit a wall around that point, and finally returned it to the store, swearing to never rent it again. I didn't see the endgame until I found a Let's Play almost twenty years later.
It's pretty bad.

But still, there are worse games.

[Anonymous No.1555385]

[Anonymous No.1555427]

>>1542261
>>1554039
I believe the intended name was "Homonculus."

[Anonymous No.1555437]

>>1555385
Mystic Quest is pretty awful, but at least it has some rockin' tunes. SotS has... well, it's not a deadly poison.

[Anonymous No.1555945]

>>1555385
How can that be the worst when I had fun playing it?

[Anonymous No.1556165]

>>1555945
Any RPG you can beat in less than 3 hours is not a good RPG.

[Anonymous No.1556169]

>>1556165
>Any RPG you can beat in less than 3 hours is not a good RPG.

wat

[Anonymous No.1556174]

>ctrl f
No mention of badbad

The hell is wrong with you OP, this game is the best thing to ever graze humanity.

It has a villain so bad, he's not bad, he's BAD BAD. and ontop of that? fuck evil lairs, this guy owns a HOUSE.

Whats badder then a dude who beats you in his own fucking house?

[Anonymous No.1556190]

>>1542965

Not Secret of the stars-bad but it is painfully generic, and the hit-a-blank-spot battle thing was annoying.

[Anonymous No.1556196]

>>1556165
Binding of Isaac called.

[Anonymous No.1556294]

>>1556174
It was mentioned though.

Multiple times.

You best fix your motherfucking search bar, Anon.

[Anonymous No.1557804]

>>1554836

So I'm not the only one; this was either the one that featured Kirby's Dreamland 2? Damn my habit of somehow winding up destroying my magazines back then, I'd check to make sure if I still had my old issues.

[Anonymous No.1558134]

I remember my friend used to rent this all the damn time. It seemed huge. you could switch between 2 parties at any time and theyd have their own adventure going on.

I remember i was playin his save file once and I had such a hard time accessing the menu. When i gave him back the controller he had 99999999999g Dont have a clue what I did and I was able to do it again with still having no friggin clue.

[Anonymous No.1558271]

>>1555385

Whoa there, fuck you if you think Mystic Quest is bad. It's charming as fuck and has god tier music

[Anonymous No.1558290]

>>1554836
I'm not good with this whole putting thoughts into words thing but
bigger cart size > better animations and music > more expensive production values

Remember how they had to cut a whole level off Super Turrican or something because the publisher decided to use smaller carts near the end of the development?

[Anonymous No.1558295]

>>1555385
Actually does the whole "using weapons to interact with the environment a-la zelda thing" better than Breath of Fire.

[Anonymous No.1558306]

>>1555385
While it was easy and very simple, you can't deny it has some of the best snes music.

[Anonymous No.1558307]

>>1558271
I never got into it, but I can see that. The Japanese logo that incorporates the American flag is also cool.

Square wanted this to be a major success in the US - a million-seller. (Later, it expected the same from a game about a boy and his dog.) Anyone know how it actually sold?

[Anonymous No.1558316]

>>1556165
Pokemon

[Anonymous No.1558326]

You've never played this turd.

[Anonymous No.1558337]

>>1558326
It ain't great to look at, but for the time it was released, PQ is a solid RPG. I like many of the innovations it tried to implement. The story was fairly simple and straightforward, but so was the story for PSIII:GoD and that game has a decent-sized following.
The problem both with PSIII:GoD and PQ is that they're a little too different from the norm, PSIII from the general PS body of work and universe and PQ from the console RPG. They're like the Zelda IIs of their peers.

They each tried something new to varying degrees of success but ultimately yielded games that were about 7/10 each. Not head-for-the-hills bad. everyone-should-play-at-least-once different nor this-is-enjoyable-and-recommended good.
It's so-so.

[Anonymous No.1558345]

>>1558337
>different from the norm
This game literally did nothing different except offer terrible art that made your eyes bleed. You think entirely too much of it.

[Anonymous No.1558359]

>>1558326
>see this lemon on the shelf at the rental store back in 94
>12 and retarded at the time
>I like paladins
>I like Enix
>this must be great!
what a waste of a weekend that was

[Anonymous No.1558403]

I still wonder about this game all about.

[Anonymous No.1558417]

>>1558345
Meh. I liked the way leveling up worked. I liked the way magic worked. I like the way adding party members worked. I like the way healing worked. And the way these things were done had not been done in console RPGs before then and done by very few console RPGs since. It had a lot of potential, as seen by the quality of its J-only sequel (which fulfilled that potential and made a very, very good game), but ultimately poor execution.

The graphics are bad and colours washed out in PQ, yes, and the music not very good, but the game itself is nowhere near as bad as SotS.
But hey, if you dislike it, that's fine, too. We're all friends here. :3

[Anonymous No.1558682]

>>1558326
I played the shit out of that. I've beaten it three times since its released in several playthroughs. Once I've even gotten the gomutai.

You ignorant.

[Anonymous No.1558683]

>>1558345
>no mp
>mercenaries

You ignorant. Aint played it but for 5 minutes.

[Anonymous No.1558810]

>>1553932
>Unless you mean DD.

No, I mean the entire series.

[Anonymous No.1559770]

>>1558682
Have you played the sequel, Lennus 2?

[Anonymous No.1560794]

>>1558326
That game is a fucking fever dream with it's dreary ass depressing town music and art style for the world. And let's not forget losing the trial for spirit magic displayed that creepy face.

It has a sequel which I think got fan-translation, Lennus 2?