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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDNYzQ_yMVc

>> No.1518463
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I expected it to be the thread official track, way to disappoint me with a shitty unboxing video.

Let me fix that for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKVmvVRXXCM

>> No.1518474

>>1518463
>.gif
>Does not move

>> No.1518475

Ninja Maids are the best enemies in the series.

Debate me.

>> No.1518480

Why is everyone so eager to mimic one of the things that nearly killed /v/?

>> No.1518483

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Py5xa_JuVk

midi is better than the redbook version

>> No.1518485

>>1518480
Castlevania discussion killed /v/?

>> No.1518487

>>1518480
Belmont killed the radio star

>> No.1518519
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>> No.1518523

Bloody Tears was the greatest contribution Castlemania ever gave us. God tier song, that one.

>> No.1518535 [DELETED] 

>>1518485
Just report him, he's the pedophile that keeps trying to direct all generals to /vg/.

>> No.1518585
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>>1518474

sorry

>> No.1518592

>>1518585
>Tumblr

>> No.1518594

>>1518585
>typical mode7 game.gif

>> No.1518601

>>1518463
Thank you. I'm giving you extra points for having the presence of mind to not post the first youtube result for Super Castlevania 4 music. Every time someone posts Constantlimit's shitty tv-recorded audio garbage, I die a little inside.

>> No.1518607

Nearly have Super Castlevania beat, but we're stuck on that part near the end with the 3 platforms that constantly spawn and move to the top right, where a curtain of deadly spikes waits for you.

We've had the console on for about two weeks, playing it whenever we get time and feel like it.

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I'm starting to get really pissed at Super Castlevania IV, and that's pretty weird, considering it's my favorite in the series - and that's pretty weird, considering I've never beat it. Furthest I've ever gotten was the stage with that giant fuck-off saw at the bottom that races with you, but usually I get frustrated and quit by the time I hit the treasury. Those fucking skeletons with their super-charged damage-dealing capabilities can go fuck themselves, especially the throwers.

Starting to get the feeling I might not be cut out for this and should stick to the DS Metroidvanias (all three of which I've actually beaten), but I'm not quite willing to give up just yet. It can't be THAT hard, can it? Just need some perseverance, right?

>mfw realizing that once I beat SCIV, I basically have to start playing the NES ones, which are even harder

>> No.1518697

>>1518689
>Simon's Quest
>Harder

>> No.1518705

>>1518697

CVIII more than makes up for it, I'd wager. If I'm going to do it, I should probably do it right.

>> No.1518709

It's weird that a game series with an overall excellent soundtrack had its best piece of music on the Game Boy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6mftPOyQX0

>> No.1518730

>>1518709
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHXdogIIwXw

>> No.1518731

>>1518709
HNNNNNNNNG
Absolutely Based

Someone needs to remix that...

>> No.1518735

>>1518709
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwOFkeCU7hQ

I had such high hopes...

>> No.1518750

>>1518735
>how to kill everything which is good about a track: the song

It seems the most fitting genre for Castlevania music really is rock music.

>> No.1518760

>>1518750
>Not goth music

>> No.1518769

>>1518760
>goth music
>techno for sad people

Nah.

>> No.1518772

>>1518769
Goth music originated from the British punk scene

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_rock

>> No.1518784

Visual kei faggotry aside, Mana has always made some very Castlevania-influenced music, he's a big Castlevania fanboy and even composed a ringtone for Harmony of Dissonance for japanese mobiles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEZjdIYEbzE

you'll have to stomach the vocals, and most of the songs aren't really all that great, but I always get a huge castlevania vibe when I listen to the harpsichord and organ synths.

Man, I haven't listened to this in 10 years.

There's also a Malice Mizer song titled Gekka no yasoukyoku (japanese title of SOTN), the bad thing is that Gackt is on vocals.

>> No.1518791

>>1518772

Still no, the music simply lacks in punch imo.

>>1518784

I found this pretty Castlevania-esque.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmqhnU7RGZE

>> No.1518793

>>1518760

Castlevania IV has some very goth rock-sounding tunes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQRMjAg2jN0

>these drums and dat bass

>> No.1518794

>>1518791
If your first thought about goth music is "techno music for sad people", you have been listening to the wrong kind of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVpyKxpsadg

>> No.1518802

>>1518784
I like Malice Mizer without the slightest hint of irony or shame, unlike most visual kei garbage, they kept changing their sound. They owed no shit to anyone; didn't steal riffs. Moi dix Mois is just garbage, though. Their songs are very alike

>> No.1518798

>>1518750

the music in judgement / hd was a mess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EHJf4E1Xl8

ps perfect selection dracula battle sucks

>> No.1518807

>>1518794
>techno music for sad people

It's simply what most goths listen to these days. Also, the piece you've posted pretty much proves the "not enough punch" stance. Castlevania is more like pseudo-baroque-rock, if something like that even exist.

>> No.1518809

>>1518807
prog rock

>> No.1518814

>>1518802

I agree, although Malice Mizer went to shit with gackt (still, great song writing, but I just can't watch Ju te veux performance with a straight face, although I'll admit it's a guilty pleasure, the song itself is catchy as fuck). Memoire is still one of the best goth rock albums I've heard in general, japan or not. Their Bara no seidou era is also good, but way too over the top and operatic, I prefer the more classicaly-inspired goth rock from their early days, also Tetsu was a great vocalist and lyricist.
And I agree about Moi dix Mois being garbage, but it has a somewhat good production, still shitty songwiritng, Kozi still makes cool music, Mana lost his shit.

>> No.1518817

>>1518807
What about this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fA_pTaXBT8

>> No.1518819

>>1518814
As much as I like Memoire, I would not call Tetsu a "great vocalist" by any stretch of the word. He over emotes his delivery and most people either hate his voice or jusr stand it.

>> No.1518820

>>1518817

Touché, that actually sounds kind of like Castlevania.

>> No.1518828

>>1518820
What about this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juD4ayBbHdY

>> No.1518836

>>1518819

You think so? He sounds just like a real goth rock vocalist, the guy is basically japanese Robert Smith, I think he's very fitting for the kind of sound MM had in Memoire.
But vocal style aside, I like Tetsu mainly for his lyrics, can't say the same about Gackt. And Mana's lyrics are the most boring and cliche thing ever "hurrrr THE DARKNESSSSS", bleh.

>> No.1518838

>>1518784

music is gayer than the pic

>> No.1518841

>>1518836
I think a Japanese Robert Smith would be more like Atsushi Sakurai from Buck-Tick, they used to have the same hair style

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON_rUAITnkM

>> No.1518842

>>1518828

Only the middle part, if at all. I don't really feel it. I guess it's just a difference in perception.

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>>1518841


But I mean Tetsu is japanese Robert Smith because of his voice and way of singing.

Man that song was the first ever Buck-Tick song I heard back in like 2001 or 2002. Good stuff.

Dem hairdos.

>> No.1518854

>>1518842
What about this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIelNIzII7Y

>> No.1518862

>>1518852
I don't hear the resemblance between Tetsu and Robert Smith

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>> No.1519073

So are we gonna talk video games or discuss goth music?

>> No.1519074

>>1519061
This remains one of my favorite pieces of video game concept art.

>> No.1519076

>>1519073

/mu/ hijacked the thread circljerking about bad music

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>>1519073
We are going to discuss goth video games

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg1VEV4QhtA

>> No.1519084

>>1519076
>Bad Music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NPgVESNjPg

>> No.1519087

>>1519084

the title is mind numbling stupid i'm not even going to try to listen to it

>> No.1519093

>>1519087
>Judging music by anything but music

>> No.1519279

>yfw you realized that the only good Metroidvanias, SotN and CotM, weren't made by Igarashi

>> No.1520029

>>1519279

Wasn't SOTN his first Castlevania?

>> No.1520041

>>1518709
Also the best version of bloody tears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB0B41q5BVc

>> No.1520127

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_nLixW7Mo4A
Minibosses anyone? They've created some rocking covers of 8-bit and 16-bit tunes. Don't quite know who these OC remix fags are, but they totally hijacked this track to sell their merch. For any Mass fags out there, these guys play at the Middle East in Cambridge when their in town. I have some bootlegs that I'd be happy to share.

>> No.1520132

Can we just talk about how Harmony Of Despair is the greatest CV OST of all time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y60MzSInSU

>> No.1520142

>>1519279
SotN had Igarashi as Co-Director and he was pretty damn influential.

>> No.1520143

>>1520132
Is the game itself with playing?

>> No.1520151

Recently finished Aria and Dawn of Sorrow.
It was fucking good. I'm really grateful that SotN paved the way for these games.

Next up: Portrait of Ruin.

Btw Julius mode is fucking great.

>> No.1520149

>>1520127
>their

I blew it gaise...

>> No.1520152

>>1520151
Keep it classy, keep it retro. I'm gunna be that guy

>> No.1520154

>>1520143
No, it sucks. But it's immortalized as the last Castlevania before they released Lord of Shittows, and arguably one of the best damn soundtracks ever for the series, if not THE best.

>> No.1520158

>>1520152
Yeah, I know and it's alright But since it's a CV general...
I just have nothing to add about SotN or Super C IV or any older CV game except that I already finished them.

>> No.1520162

>>1520154
Too bad... I actually like Mirror of Fate. First I played of the LoS series. Then I played the first... I was sorely disappointed. Dat stupid ending... I'm surprised they didn't try and remake AoS from there...

>> No.1520168

>>1520158
I was only kidding FYI. It's my personal opinion that if the franchise was born in retro era, it's ok for discussion since the retro iterations always come into play.

>> No.1520178

>>1520127
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ByddUPg4gWE

Castlevania III medley

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>>1520154
>>1520132
>mfw I just got the subtitle
>Castlevania HD

>> No.1520205

>>1520196
Hahaha, I just now got it. It doesn't mean high definition... Does it?!? Double meaning like Metag Gear Solid Ghost Babel?!

>> No.1520206

>>1519084
The Birthday Massacre can be pretty great. Doesn't really make me think of Castelvania though...

first thing I think of is ol' Yngwie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsIG1ZcVMuU&index=46

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jy_LpWpO8s

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>>1520143
From what little I've played of it, it seems to have some decent ideas wrapped in nonsensical level design and stiffer controls. I liked Aria of Sorrow a lot though.

>>1518990
Why so low-resolution you bastard.

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>>1520196
>Dawn of Sorrow
>Castlevania DS

>> No.1520218

>>1520209
Am I in the minority with being off put by AoS? They turned Alucard into Tuxedo Mask and it's set in presentish day setting.

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>>1520215
>mfw

>> No.1520584

>>1520218
>They turned Alucard into Tuxedo Mask and it's set in presentish day setting.

so what? Everything about it was a sensible choice. Do you think a 1000+ year old vampire (or whatever age he has) shouldn't go with the times for some weird ass reason? I found everything about AoS refreshing tbh.

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>>1520218
he looks dapper as fug

>> No.1520601

>>1520215
That didn't dawn on you in 2005? A ton of early DS games have those initials. Mr. Driller Drill Spirits, Advance Wars Dual Strike, Resident Evil Deadly Silence, Lunar Dragon Song, the list goes on.

>> No.1520610

>>1520029
>>1520142
No, he got brought in toward the very end after the rest of the game was finished and just balanced the game (which is why it's very easy- Iga stated that Castlevania games were always too hard for him, so he nerfed the difficulty and made other "tweaks" to Hagiharu's game). Most of the game was made by Toru Hagihara, who had previously made Belmont's Revenge and Rondo of Blood.

tl;dr Iga is a crazy, controlling hack and I'm glad he left Konami.

>> No.1520615

>>1520610
but he did what a producer is supposed to do. Make the game more marketable by making it more accessible for everybody.

Everybody was tired of the old castlevania formula.

>> No.1520649

>>1520610
Wait, so Igarashi didn't have much to do with Rondo of Blood?

>> No.1520675

>>1520649
Nothing at all. His first Konami game was Tokimeki Memorial, then he got transferred to the SotN project team.

>> No.1520708

>>1520675
Oh my. Well then I guess he is a giant fucking hack after all. I always thought he did Rondo of Blood for some reason.

>> No.1520818

>>1519279
SotN is unbalanced as fuck.

Aria of Sorrow is what SotN was supposed to be (and the best Metroidvania).

>> No.1520835

>>1520610
> Most of the game was made by Toru Hagihara, who had previously made Belmont's Revenge and Rondo of Blood.
> who had previously made Belmont's Revenge
> Belmont's Revenge

Well I guess that IGA saved SOTN.

>> No.1520837

>>1520818
The one that required the RNG to generate two souls in order to win the game? No thank you. SotN has its fair share of RNG bullshittery but forcing it for completion was an incredibly stupid decision.

>> No.1520840

>>1520835
>totally ignoring Rondo

>> No.1520851

>>1520837
> The one that required the RNG to generate two souls in order to win the game?
No, the one with an actual progression of difficulty and good boss fights, unlike SotN.

> tfw you had to explore a rehash of the castle to get the true ending in SotN

Lel.

>> No.1520858

>>1520837
"How can I speedrun this game?" isn't a criteria to judge a game's quality, anon.

>> No.1520857

I agree with anon. Rock, especially Metal, suits Castlevania. This just happens to be DEATH Metal.

Necrophagist - Fermented Offal Discharge

Best Castlevania music ever. Intro riff is badass. Money riff starts at 1:45 Solo starts at 3:01

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ7Y4SNj6u8

>> No.1520861

>>1520857

This is NOT Castlevania music. Obviously. But Muhammed Suiçmez, lead guitarist and founder of Necrophagist is a MASTER of what I like to call "Classical" metal solos.

>> No.1520865

>>1520840
Bloodlines is better.

>> No.1520864

>>1520858
I don't agree that it's an issue, but where did he say anything about speedrunning? Maybe he doesn't want to spend that time grinding for souls.

AoS is still my favorite CV game of all time, but I understand his point.

>> No.1520873

>>1520864
You don't need those souls to FINISH the game. You need to get the secret level and the best ending.

>> No.1520868

>>1520865
What's your point?

>> No.1520869

shitty butt metal ruined castlevania music

>> No.1520876

Lords of Shadows is good

>> No.1520894

>>1520876
It's a GoW clone. Actually I haven't played it, but from I see, the gameplay has got to be good. And for me, that's usually what counts.

>> No.1520895

>>1520864
>AoS is still my favorite CV game of all time, but I understand his point.
I don't. It's an issue but not a big one. You can get these souls in 3 minutes each. Not a game breaking problem.

Better than the second castle of SotN. At this point of the game Alucard is so powerful that everything is a cakewalk.

>> No.1520898

>>1520894
>It's a GoW clone.
This is why it's good.

>> No.1520909

>>1520898
>yougotthepoint.avi

>> No.1520921

>>1520894
Everything can be considered a clone of something these days.

>> No.1520930

>>1520921
which is why its a good way to describe the game

instead of saying 'mediocre 3d beat em up with minor puzzles, tomb raider style platofrming, tons of qtes' we say 'gow'

instead of saying 'fast paced auto aiming fps with a complex map, emphasis on fighting many enemies at once' we say doom clone

>> No.1520961

>>1520835
>shitting on BR
It was the only good portable Classicvania, and a massive leap in quality over The Adventure, fagget.

>> No.1520987

>>1520961
huehuehuehue

>> No.1521092

>>1520857
Not saying these guys aren't talented... But this music is truly garbage.

>> No.1521103

>>1521092
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGF7bJdn6zI

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>>1520857
>>1520861
>>1521103
>metal
i knew castlevania was fedoracore

>> No.1521127

>>1521126
>Emilie Autumn
>Metal

>> No.1521169

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWw8amK4g0I&list=PLUe96l7iRZPdLLMVW_dtzeP9jOW6YDTa3&index=2

check out my maria mode SOTN speedrun, /vr/

>> No.1521175

>>1521169
>Viral

>> No.1521180

>>1521127
Emilie Autumn sucks. Half her songs are about sexism and rape, she's like tumblr in music form.

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>>1520601
>That didn't dawn on you

>> No.1521187

>>1521180
I thought she was mall goth

>> No.1521307

>>1521103
Is this supposed to be better than that god awful metal crap? Or was this supposed to be ironic, as in since I don't like metal I must like this crappy girly music?

Try this on for size:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWRtJz6dt9o

The man has about an hour of recorded music, but all popular music from 1950-2014 has been influenced by him in one way or another. If I were stuck on a desert island and had to pick one album, this would probably be it.

>> No.1521320

>>1521307
Is this better?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F143kJea2tw

>> No.1521329

>>1521307
One man. One guitar. One microphone

>> No.1521338

>>1521320
R u gay? Fedoravania is forever lost ...

>> No.1521341

>>1521338
Is this fedoracore?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HB6Xj5fZSI

>> No.1521343

>>1519076
>bad music
>joy division Itt
>Lolz.jpeg

>> No.1521351

>>1521343
>angsty teen division
>good

>> No.1521356

>>1521351
You haven't heard angst if you think Joy Division is for angsty teenagers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5NP2xUzIvU

>> No.1521624

>>1521356
I like this band. Clear Hearts Grey Flowers was the first CD I ever burned.

And you know, self-injury is a serious issue. If you dismiss it as "hurr teen angst" you're part of the problem.

>> No.1521630

>>1521624
Self injury is a serious issue but much like other issues, if you write a dumb song about it instead of treating it with respect, it comes off as angsty

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>>1521624
>And you know, self-injury is a serious issue.

man sitting at home on my computer in my temperature controlled house is such a terrible way to live

#suffering4life

>> No.1521661

>>1518585
Is the wall spinning, or is the platform spinning?

>> No.1521667

>>1521648
And here we have someone who has never been oppressed or punished every time he expresses himself, and thus has never had to turn to harming others or self harm in order to control his emotions.

>> No.1521673

>>1521624
>>1521630
>>1521648
>>1521667
It's a fucking Castlevania general. Talk about the series for fuck's sake.

>>1521661
I always assumed it was the room spinning while the platform stayed stable. There's another room where the room spins around you, I just assumed this is like that but from another angle.

>> No.1521683

God Tier:
Super Castlevania IV

High Tier:
Bloodlines
Rondo of Blood

Mid Tier:
Dracula's Curse
Adventure ReBirth
X68000 Castlevania
NES Castlevania
Belmont's Revenge

Low Tier:
Simon's Quest
Legends

Shit Tier:
The Adventure

Beyond Shit Tier:
Every 3D game

Metroid Tier
Symphony of the Night
Circle of the Moon
Harmony of Dissonance
Aria of Sorrow
Dawn of Sorrow
Portrait of Ruin
Order of Ecclesia
Harmony of Despair

>> No.1521689

>>1521683
You honestly think Legacy of Darkness is worse than the likes of Adventure and Legends?

>> No.1521829

>>1521683
Gonna assume the Metroid tier is in no particular order, because Ecclesia is better than everything there except Aria and Symphony.

Other than that replace Rebirth with the NES Castlevania and your list is solid.

>> No.1521871

>>1520894
>the gameplay has got to be good.

it's garbage. enjoy your QTEs and your tutorial game and your shitty cutscene garbage.

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>>1521683
>every 3D game

fuck you. Curse of Darkness is a solid fucking game and the plot was good compared to a few certain other entries. The voice acting and normal acting was very theatrical but fitting for a game like that.

I enjoy devil forging. It's a good effort that SotN introduced familiars like Mini Devil or having a bat accompanying you.

>> No.1521919

>>1520895
>Better than the second castle of SotN.

true but the problem is that AoS should have been on consoles to begin with. Maybe then it would have had more content and better sound.

I believe it was a bit shorter than SotN. But I'm not mad since we also got Dawn of Sorrow afterwards. They could have expanded Dawn by making a mirror-castle that you enter with the Paranoia soul and Aria could have been expanded by having a bigger chaos realm.

The soul grinding didn't bother me much.

>> No.1521928

>>1518475
you mean Persephone? yeah, I like her. I like especially the ones with the vacuum cleaner.

>> No.1522023

For people who havn't played every single game in the genre

Rondo of blood is a hidden gem in the classic era. Its absolutely gorgeous and the level design is damn near perfect. Its arguably the best castlevania ever made

lament of innosence is actually a good game once you unlock its hard mode which turns the game into an absolute knightmare, all the trash mobs are replaced by stronger ones and there are roughly 4 times as many enemies on screen

>> No.1522036

>>1521896
if it wern't for the great visuals curse of darkness would be no matter game than lord of shadows.

the combat is absolute shit, enemies are far too passive and fucntion as nothing more than glorified punching bags (a common flaw in 3d beat em ups) and it lacked the constant enviromental hazards that made lament interesting.

>> No.1522047

>>1522036
I disagree with everything you say but it's your opinion and I don't care enough to change it.

>> No.1522078

Is this Castlevania-esque?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ7JyfEuNFE

>> No.1522097

>>1522023
>knightmare
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knightmare_(1986_video_game)

huehue Konami

>> No.1522098

y'all small time, here's some real castlevaniacore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q52UyJoYIFY

>> No.1522103

>>1522078
>calls Christians "a plague of idiots blinded by their faith"
>is a Wiccan

Can someone dial 911 for me? I think I actually severed my optic nerves by rolling my eyes too hard.

>> No.1522157
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>>1520873
They're required to finish the game properly. Easiest solution would be to significantly up or guarantee their drop rate before you get it once, indeed I suspect they already have better odds than many souls. Alternatively, make them an out-of-the-way boss fight like SotN did.

>>1520851
You have to explore a rehash of the castle to beat Aria of Sorrow as well. Admittedly not as lazy but still.

>>1521919
If that's all you wanted another generation of handhelds was enough. Case in point: DXC's SotN port, and Dawn of Sorrow.

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Geez, is there a trick to this attack? It does like 1/3 of your life on Hard and comes out really fast, too fast to dodge it seems, and I don't think misdirecting it works. Also why is the first boss in the hardest in the game, second maybe to Cornell's final boss?

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>>1522157
>Easiest solution would be to significantly up or guarantee their drop rate before you get it once

there is a souls ring that increases soul dropping and I did it without. I just kept re-entering the segment with flame demon and succubus. The giant bat soul doesn't even count since you get that one regardless. so you only need two souls. Doesn't sound like shitty game design to me. Boohoo gotta collect two entire souls. It's a cakewalk, dude.

>> No.1522523

>>1522435
you most likely have to dodge it. twitch jumping. if that doesn't work, you found the equivalent of a retro dark souls game. congratulations and have fun dying.

>> No.1522529
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I'm playing PoR. All I can say is I want more egyptian-based levels. Astarte fight is hilarious.

>> No.1522559

>>1522529

PoR is the best Metroid like Castlevania after SOTN.CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN! CHARLOTTE! JOHNATAN!

>> No.1522572

>>1522559

Not him but I like it too. I never understood why most people say it sucks compared to DoS and OoE.

>> No.1522574

>>1522518

having to backtrack a lot at all and replay areas is shitty game design so the last two DS games win by default, aria of sorrow is shit

>> No.1522576

no joke backtracking is the laziest padding to exist

>> No.1522579

Get the fuck back to /v/ if you can't keep discussion retro.

>> No.1522597

>>1522572
It had a few game-crashing bugs and there were loads of empty rooms, and the enemies were really spread out and the difficulty from room to room was unbalanced.

>> No.1522625

>>1522559
>>1522572
I think its problem is that the castle doesn't feel interesting. The painting worlds are cool, but it's like they blew their whole set piece budget on those, and then had nothing for the hub world.

The fact that there's two versions of all the portrait worlds doesn't really help either. :P

>> No.1522651

>>1522523
OK I just figured it out. He sorta loosely leads the target and attacks at a fixed rate, so you can predict him enough to be out of the way when he fires. However I don't think it's possible to dodge if he fires while aimed at you. So it's still one of the hardest bosses in the game, but at least it's not luck-based. Also at least on Normal the fight is manageable even if you don't figure that out.

>>1522518
Good design would be putting the required tools in specific parts of the castle, not requiring grinding to beat the game. But as I said I think they did account for that by having a reasonable chance to drop those souls, but I'd have to replay the game to test that.

>> No.1522660

>>1522625

>The fact that there's two versions of all the portrait worlds doesn't really help either

But then why nobody complained about this in OoE?

Tymeo Mountains was a recolor Tristis Pass

Somnus Reef was like Kalidus Channel

Oblivion Ridge was like Misty Forest Road

>> No.1522676

Lords of Shadow is good, fite me.

Also the soundtrack while not as good has some amazing (and very memorable for me) orchestral pieces.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4sEbX1HhVc

>that fucking "Castlevania" in lyrics near the end

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>>1522676
>>1522660
>>1522651
>>1522625
>>1522597
>>1522574
>>1522572
>>1522559
>>1522529
>>1522518
>>1522157
>>1522036
>>1522047
>>1522023
>>1521928
>>1521919
>>1521896
>>1521829
>>1521689
>>1521683
>>1520876
>>1520895
>>1520864
>>>/v/

>> No.1522698

>>1522694
>YOU CAN'T DISCUSS NEWER GAMES OF A RETRO SERIES
Fuck off.
It's secondary which is allowed.
If you made a thread dedicated to God of War, now that would be against the rules.

>> No.1522704

How do I get into Castlevania?

>> No.1522708

>>1522704
draw bridge usually

>> No.1522719

>>1522708
this nigga

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>>1522694

Good, at least you know where you should return.

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So i'm pretty unfamiliar with the Castlevania series in general. I've gotten around to playing through 1 and 3 recently, and been looking at other releases. I'm thinking of playing IV next, but i'm curious about some of the other releases. Are Rondo of Blood and Bloodlines worth playing as well?

>> No.1522759

>>1522748
yes they are

very much so

>> No.1522764

>>1522698
That's right, fuck the hell off back to /v/ if you can't keep discussion to ACTUAL RETRO GAMES. There's no such thing as a "retro series" if it has a ton of games in it that aren't retro. There is zero point in making a thread here on /vr/ as opposed to /v/ when you just make the conversation completely identical anyway. The Castlevania series is a topic for /v/. Retro Castlevania games are a topic for /vr/. Don't like it then return to /v/. /vr/ is not your special little "good edition" of /v/, it has a theme.

>> No.1522768 [DELETED] 

>>1522764
You seem awfully butthurt, kid :^)

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>>1522625
that's the point though. the castle area is supposed to be like that and it's fine that the painting worlds make up for that. But whatever, you may disagree if you want to.

>>1522572
I never thought it sucked. it improved a few things from DoS and reintroduced older enemies from SotN like Spittle Bone and so forth. The painting worlds are really authentic and creepy (jesus, Nation of Fools is a fucking depressing place to me but it has a nice impact that way if a level can meake you feel like that; well done.). Also, the enemies were a lot more about slapstick like Zacchino and Persephone (who sucks Charlotte's panties with the vaccuum cleaner if you let her. hilarious).

I've yet to get through OoE. can't say much about it yet.

>> No.1522816

>>1522814
but which one?

>> No.1522814

>>1522708
kek'd at this.

>>1522704
play a CV game. bam, you're into it.

>> No.1522821

>>1522816
1, 3, IV, Bloodlines, Rondo, SotN

>> No.1522823

>>1522574
you can't really call it backtracking if the damn game has warp rooms all over the place. jesus, look at you being a complete faggot.

>> No.1522825

>>1522821
yeah, but WHICH one?

>> No.1522832

>>1522825
start with whatever seems pleasing to you the most.

>> No.1522836

>>1522825
ALL OF THEM AT ONCE. FINAL DESTINATION

>> No.1522841

>>1522825
1

play 1

>> No.1522843

>>1522841
what if it's too hard?

>> No.1522848

>>1522843
if any CV game is too hard, you might as well play Symphony straight away

>> No.1522847

>>1522843
then play it harder

>> No.1522853

>>1522651
>Good design would be putting the required tools in specific parts of the castle, not requiring grinding to beat the game.

guess what? they did. you need to find three ancient books that tell you exactly what kind of souls you need to become Dracula.

>> No.1522908

>>1522853
The complaint is about having to farm specific enemies for their souls, not determining which ones are required for the true ending, that was handled well enough.

>> No.1522916

>>1522908
but it's only two of them. I get your point and I think doing it like SotN managed to do it is also fine but if these souls would be dropped straight away it would give away the solution anyway. you grind for merely 5 minutes if anything. Both souls. Dawn of Sorrow is much more about grinding. You need to grind souls for weapon upgrades if you want to get a really good weapon and you need Killer Clown, Ukoback and Axe Armor souls to get straight through so you can fight Paranoia or else you can't get to the true ending either. Aria is really tame compared to that.

>> No.1522926

>>1522843
cv1 is easy until death fight which is totally RNG and requires you to have a good sub and preferably a III tile

if you want a hard but balanced castlevania play 3 or rondo

>> No.1523102

>>1522916
The books already hint enough, and this type of puzzle only works once. Probably the worst part is that once you know the secret the books become worthless. Anyway it is a minor complaint. Also DoS sounds bad.

>> No.1523116

>>1523102
>Also DoS sounds bad.

not at all, it's a great game on its own. It's just that you have to see the soul grinding as a factor of getting challenged by the game is a certain way which I personally don't mind as much. You might mind and that's fine, you don't have to like it. Regardless, it doesn't take up too much time in DoS either to grind those souls but it's tenfold compared to AoS.

>> No.1523120

>>1521829
SotN > PoR > AoS > CotM > OoE > DoS > HoDis > HoDes

>> No.1523129

>>1523120
>CotM

I don't see why /v/ has such a boner over this game. It was really short in my opinion and a bit dull.

>> No.1523134

>>1523129

it's fast paced, most people here have adhd

>> No.1523139

>>1523134
>most people here have adhd

I knew it!

>> No.1523152

>>1523134

No, I'm pretty sure it's normal to dislike slow and uninteresting games. CotM is the best deal with it.

>> No.1523308

Why's that Aria of Sorrow is so widely liked? I loved SotN but AoS was really mediocre. I know it's a GBA game so I can't expect as much vartiery of enemies and locations. But it was really meh for me. Soma is shit, bat transformation eats up ridiculous amounts of mana, also the whole mana system is pretty unbalanced. It basically became a chore to play it halfway through, thankfully it was so short.

>> No.1523314

>>1523134
No we

>> No.1523682 [DELETED] 

>>1522764
>implying /vr/ has even ever been "good"
maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad

>> No.1523712

>>1523682
I surely did not imply that sir. I'm describing the kind of attitude used to justify blatant off-topic shitposting such as that featured in this thread.

>> No.1524379

>>1523308
>I know it's a GBA game so I can't expect as much vartiery of enemies and locations.

the hell you're talking about? AoS had fuckloads of different monsters and locations.

>Soma is shit

talk about weird ass opinions almost nobody has.

>> No.1524871

>>1524379
>the hell you're talking about? AoS had fuckloads of different monsters and locations.
100% this.

>> No.1524927

On the note of Gackt and Castlevania.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swbZuP55hkY

I have never beaten a Classic CV game. I just suck at them. All the Metroidvanias I've beaten except for Order of Ecclesia.

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Games like this make me miss sprites.

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>>1525029

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>>1525034

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>>1523308
>>1524379
I went into AoS with no expectations whatsoever, because i had never played a metriodvania game before.
I loved everything about it, the ammount of monsters, the size of the castle, the secrets (I still go back and search for more secrets, hell I found a super jump ability today), the ammount of items. The controls are very responsive and it's really fun to play.
I do agree that some of the weapons and souls are unbalanced, but i'd suggest you to give it a 2nd chance and see if you have some fun with it.

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>>1525038
>>1525034
>>1525029
It's little wonder they reuse monster art so often. You can't improve on perfection.

>> No.1525117

>>1521683
>Dracula's Curse not High Tier
>Dracula X not even on the list

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>there will never be another Castlevania as amazing as this

>> No.1525196

>>1525117
Nor is Dracula X Chronicles. But as they're both inferior versions of Rondo of Blood or Symphony of the Night it's not a big loss.

>> No.1525339

>>1525196

Inferior versions?

>> No.1525379

>>1525196
Dracula X is not a "version" of Rondo of Blood, it's a very different game.

>> No.1525413

cannot believe noone mentioned this guy
http://www.youtube.com/user/monjakure

>> No.1525419

>>1525413
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&list=UUpZUWCWQrNjHk0CaYgUMmyQ&v=LWG9XYOC6eo#t=190
related, my favorite

>> No.1525562

>>1525379
I though Dracula X was just Japanese for Rondo of Blood.

>> No.1525586

>>1525379
Rondo of Blood is usually referred to as Dracula X or Chi no Rondo in Japan, while the SNES game we know as Dracula X is known there as Dracula XX.(it's Japanese title)

Also, Symphony of the Night was known as Akumajō Dracula X: Gekka no Yasōkyoku in Japan to tie it in with Rondo of Blood.

>> No.1525593

>>1525413
Is there anything in the world sadder than all these metal covers? Holy crap.

>> No.1525604

>>1525196
>>1525379
>>1525562
You both seem confused.

"Akumajo Dracula X: Rondo of Blood" is a PCE game.
"Akumajo Dracula X: Moonlight Nocturne" is SotN.
"Akumajo Dracula XX" is the SNES version of Rondo of Blood, an almost entirely different game indeed.

Dracula X Chronicles is the name of the Western remake of Chinorondo for the PSP (also contained an enhanced port of SotN).

>> No.1525609

>>1525604

western remake? I thought it was made by Iga.

>> No.1525614

>>1525609
Nothing was ever made by Igarashi as he's jsut a programmer that's become a producer (and never an actual designer, writer or director - except for helping write the story for the Castlevania with the worst story in the whole series - the Curse of Darkness on PS2), but of course it's Konami-made. What I meant is "Western release of the remake", i.e. the Western name for it.

>> No.1525632

>>1525586
>>1525604
I'm not confused at all, I'm just not a weeaboo.

>> No.1525637

>>1525632
You're a cockaboo.

>> No.1525952

>>1524927

Eh... yeah, he's basically cosplaying Alucard there, but the music isn't really Castlevania-like.

Mizer is where it's at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8F7xwM7a58

>> No.1525975
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1525975

just beat castlevania

castlevania 3 or super castlevania 4 next?
skipping Simon's Quest

>> No.1525979

>>1525975
Did you find it easy? CV3
Did you struggled a bit? Super CV4

>> No.1526005

>>1525979
struggled alot with Dracula, barely defeated his 2nd form in like 20th attempt

castlevania iv it is then

>> No.1526104

>>1526005
>in like 20th attempt

You are lucky. It took me literally more than 20 years to beat the fucker. I always died with him being down on 1 or 2 life blocks. Really frustrating but also probably the most satisfying moment after he was finally down.

>> No.1526349

Not exactly /vr/ but I wish they would put Curse Of Darkness on PSN. Rough around the edges, but still enjoyable today. There isn't a lot of love out there for that one.

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>>1518798
>ps perfect selection dracula battle sucks

NO U!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF0o6NLqNos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKplG0hgFV8

>> No.1526554

Why did AVGN only spend like 5 minutes on Bloodlines and not even cover Rondo in his Castlevania videos?

>> No.1526573

>>1526554
Does he tend to skew towards Nintendo systems? He was originally The Angry Nintendo Nerd, after all.

>> No.1526775

>>1525975
Play Simon's Quest faggot.

>> No.1526882

>>1526573
Well, he spent a decent amount of time reviewing SotN, so I don't see why he couldn't have given the same treatment for other good entries in the franchise.

>> No.1527041

>>1526554
It's possible he didn't own the Rondo disc at the time of making his Castlevania videos, as he only showed the PSP version.

He barely covered the Turbografx at all in any of his videos save for Fighting Street. I don't think he owns many games for the system.

>> No.1527043

>>1526554
>Rondo
Because it was about the Castlevanias he played as he grew up.

>> No.1527047

What the fuck, man? Fucking Dracula is fucking impossible to beat in 1! I mean, Death was hard, sure, but fucking Dracula is outright unfair. I just can't avoid those fucking fireballs, or hit them all and hit the motherfucker in the face at the same time. And he throws them upwards too, so you can't even jump them safely most of the time! This is bullshit! I haven't even gotten to his fatty form!

>> No.1527141

>>1526882
There's not much more he could've said about it that wasn't already said by Dracula X or Bloodlines.

>> No.1527679

>>1526554
he usually reviews shitty games so the good ones get barely mentioned. That is why there was a whole episode on CV II. It's such a fad though. Jontron and other retards copy him way too hard so only shitty games get reviewed because "lol so funny and insightful" and "damn ain't dat teh truth xD hurrdurr".

>> No.1527687

>>1525975
Why are you skipping Simon's Quest?

>> No.1527691

>>1525604
>Chinorondo

Chi no Rondo

>> No.1527690

>>1527679
Castlevania II is one of the games that inspired him to create the show, along with Turtles and Doctor Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Its a game that pissed him the hell of when he was a kid. That's the point of the show.

He also doesn't cover Bloodlines much because he never played it much, he said as much. I guess despite owning a Genesis, he never knew about it.

>> No.1527692

>>1527679
Praising good games is boring. Laughing at shitty games is where it's at.

>> No.1527714

>>1527692
yeah I know. But since anon asked previously why Rondo and Bloodlines barely get mentioned, this is the answer.

It was pretty retarded of him to show Mischief Makers in one of his intros and received a fuckton of messages saying "but AVGN, this game is good, you know?"

>> No.1527724

>>1527714
Mischief Makers is so underrated it hurts.

>> No.1527726

>>1527724
>Treasure
>Underrated

>> No.1527737

>>1527726
Treasure isn't, but Mischief Makers sure is.

>> No.1527734

>>1527726
they are. do you see many people talking about Light Crusader or Silhouette Mirage? I don't.

Everybody knows MM, Ikaruga and Radiant SG though.

>> No.1527751

>>1527734
>Silhouette Mirage
I didn't even know that existed. But it looks fun, I'll go play it, thanks!

>> No.1527768

>>1527751
sure, have fun. Personally, I'm not too fond of the protag witch character herself or the artwork but this sidescroller is definitely fun. It's a mix between MM and Ikaruga (because you change colors to hurt certain enemies).

>> No.1528363

>>1527768

You also switch colors/characters to fire up different kind of bullets in Bangai-O

Speaking of Treasure, Castlevania IV had some guys that later went on to form Treasure working on it, right?

>> No.1528391

>>1528363
>Speaking of Treasure, Castlevania IV had some guys that later went on to form Treasure working on it, right?

never heard of that but it would be neat history if they were part of the team.

>> No.1528486 [DELETED] 

>>1528391

Well, I believe at least one or some of the guys who later went on to Treasure worked on IV. Same with other Konami games of the time.
Treasure's founder was the guy behind Castlevania Legends though.

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>>1528391

Searching around I found this, the guy who implemented the whip mechanic to SCV IV was Mitsuru Yaida, who later joined Treasure, and worked on Gunstar Heroes.

Found this really awesome interview with Masahiro Ueno (director of Super Castlevania IV)

http://rapidshare.com/files/131335375/CV4scans.zip

>> No.1529101

>>1522676
LOS2 pisses me off though. Fucking Enric.

>> No.1529630

>>1528538
thank you for finding this.
This is indeed a nice piece of retro game history.

>> No.1529642

>>1521683
Why isn't Castlevania Chronicles there? It includes both the original X68000 Castlevania and Arrange Mode which is a rebalanced version of that game with new sprite work and rearranged music.

>> No.1530084

I recently beat the first Castlevania, making it the first NES game ive ever completed. I'm planning on completing most of the other Castlevania games

any entries I should steer clear of?

>> No.1530090

>>1530084

ok never mind this. just saw that list.

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>>1529630

Yeah, it's great to read interviews like that.

The guy also did the NES port of Metal Gear, which he isn't proud of, but that was because Konami only gave him 3 months to do it.
This little interview is also very interesting
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/metalgear/masahiroueno.htm

I wasn't aware Snake's Revenge was made by the CV III team, now I'll have to play it.

Saddens me that Ueno isn't making his talent shine now, worked at EA after Konami, and I think he's now working at some american casual game company for phones and tablets... wish he would just join Treasure, then again Treasure are very small and I think most of its members do freelance jobs for other companies as well.

>> No.1531796

>>1530503
Unfortunately, that's how most 3rd/4th gen veterans ended up. I wonder how they feel about it, but I guess many of them are just happy to have a job at all.

>> No.1531807

>>1521683
Literal proof that people who think Super Castlevania IV is the best game in the series have shit taste.

>> No.1531815

>>1530503
Great article. Nice to see somebody speak positively about the NES version of Metal Gear for a change. He brought up a lot of strengths about the game that I had never considered. It was my favorite game as a kid. On a personal note, having grown up in a household without a computer, reverse-engineering Metal Gear's password system was my intro to hacking and thus the first step towards my career as a programmer, so you could say it literally changed my life.

>> No.1531834

Are there any doujin arrangement albums made for Castlevania?

>> No.1532034

>>1522651
>not requiring grinding to beat the game
You don't. The game has two endings (plus a bad ending and an alternative best ending).

> but I'd have to replay the game to test that.
You can get the souls in 2 minutes each. It's easy as fuck.

Such a minor problem in the best Metroidvania. SOTN was much worse problems, the worst of all is the total lack of a "progression of difficulty". This problem doesn't plague the game for 4 minutes (like AoS), but for hours.

You can't even enjoy the bosses of SOTN because Alucard is so overpowered.

>> No.1532040

>Start playing Simon's Quest
>Heavy Grinding needed right off the bat.
Well, this sucks.

>> No.1532483

>>1531807
>proof
>opinions
Literal proof that people who think SCIV isn't the best in the series are faggots who need to play Binky's Facts and Opinions to learn what the difference is.

>> No.1532612

>>1521683
Super Castlevania IV is a great game, but it is hardly deserving of God-tier status.

>> No.1532636

>>1532483

Binky's Facts and Opinions is a better game than any Castlevania.

Fact.

>> No.1532650

>>1527714
He mentioned that in his FAQ and apologized. He explained the reason he showed Mischief Makers at all was because some of his fans told him it was bad and he probably just needed a random game to angrily stare at for 2 seconds.

So you can blame an idiotic minority of his fans for that.

>> No.1533343

>>1532034
I already covered that just getting the bad ending is not completing the game any more than killing Richter in SotN, and that it was a minor problem. Also I'm well aware of SotN's issues, but I'm allowed to cite it when it does something right. The issue with the bosses though, is not that you're overpowered, it's that many of them are simple even if you aren't OP.

>> No.1533512
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1533512

Finally bought Castlevania I, II, and III off eBay.

Got it today and finished Castlevania I for the first time ever. It took 4 hours. Defeated Death with the boomerang and got Dracula with the holy water.

Feels damn good, man.

>> No.1533548

>>1532612

To me, IV, Rondo, Bloodlines or CV III all are good enough to be god-tier.

it just depends on subjective, personal taste, but IV is pretty damn good and a lot of people consider it the best. My personal favorite is Rondo, but IV comes close 2nd.

>> No.1533854

>>1533512
Dracula was hards as balls for me, since I've got no patience. The monster form was a ton easier since you can just cross spam him to death.