/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1516181]

ITT, weird game cliches and oddities.

>throw boomerang
>it always returns to the player even if the player moves

[Anonymous No.1516221]

>throw spear
>it doesn't return

[Anonymous No.1516227]

I threw a boomerang once and it didn't come back. I was really disappointed, then years later it occurred to me that I'm left-handed and it was probably designed to be thrown with the right.

[Anonymous No.1516229]

>Not weird that boomerang returns at all after hitting something

[Anonymous No.1516228]

>Shoot arrow
>It works exactly like a gun

[Anonymous No.1516236]

>Throw Sword
>It actually flies straight.

[Anonymous No.1516237]

>>1516229
In most games the boomerang is destroyed if it hits something. Zelda games seem to be the main exception to this rule.

[Anonymous No.1516241]

>>1516237
Name one game where the boomerang is destroyed if it hits something. Dragon Warrior, Castlevania, Popful Mail, none of those off the top of my head.

[Anonymous No.1516242]

Do you even magical boomerang, faggot?
And in Neutopia II, if the character moves out of the way, the player runs the risk of losing the boomerang.

[Anonymous No.1516247]

>>1516181
oh drop it faggot.
Seriously, you wanna get into pedantry? Because as soon as you start that shit, entire games start to fall apart because of suspension of disbelief failures.

>doom features a 9mm chaingun.
>marathon features aliens who are super advanced...but attack you with fucking spears.
>every jap game ever thinks that metrosexual teens qualify as super soldiers and that people's personal problems take precedence over strategic aims
>the entire premise of super mario brothers...if boomerangs bother you, what the fuck do walking mushroom people do?
>the hookshot...working at all
>pseudo medieval society of hyrule: slingshots, a technology requiring galvanised rubber, exist
>where is the hylian agricultural sector, and how does a single farm support every citizen and industry in hyrule?
>sonic the hedgehog runs faster than a real hedgehog.
>the zombies in resident evil literally work off of bullshit-explanation magics that violate the laws of thermodynamics to the extreme

WOO PEDANTRY! LETS ALL EAT DICK AND NITPICK ON FICTION SHIT!

[Anonymous No.1516256]

>>1516247
Calm down Dude we're just bullshitting.

[Anonymous No.1516296]

>>1516227

I had a crappy, probably ornamental boomerang way back around elementary or middle school. It took a good number of tries throwing the thing in the park before I could throw it hard enough to come back to me.

I can't remember if it actually hit me on its way back or if I was just super worried that it would and then ran out of the way. Either way, it broke either that afternoon or the next.

[Anonymous No.1516301]

>>1516247
>knuckles the echidna has knuckles that he uses to climb up walls
>Chrono trigger is about traveling through time, but time travel doesn't real
>wtf is a Triforce, everyone knows there is only one God, not three goddesses
>Ninjas can't really cling to walls

[Anonymous No.1516303]

>swing sword
>makes a woosh sound

Any real life sword would be too heavy to swing fast enough for it to make such a sound, especially if you're using it one-handed.

[A Technician No.1516305]

>>1516296
When I was a child I threw my plastic boomerang and it hit the neighbours roof and slid into their gutter. It was up there all summer (I lived in the suburbs so my backyard was small and I thought I could throw it over the fence and it would come back)

[Anonymous No.1516307]

>>1516303
Confirmed noodle arm

[Anonymous No.1516313]

>>1516247
>doom features a 9mm chaingun.
>mfw
I seriously never thought about that. Can't the pistol be a higher caliber one?

[Anonymous No.1516323]

>die
>come back to life

[Anonymous No.1516324]

>>1516247
>Tails and Knuckles run just as fast as Sonic, and can also Spindash

[Anonymous No.1516328]

>boomerang returns
>still depleted from ammo supply

[Anonymous No.1516334]

>has a sword
>throws it
>it fucking explodes
>just jk, still got it

[Anonymous No.1516339]

>>1516313
Don't get people started with that fucking pistol. Not only can its cartridge carry 200 bullets at one time, but it also never needs to reload.

[Anonymous No.1516342]

>>1516303

A European longsword only weighs around three pounds.

[Anonymous No.1516347]

>>1516305

Throwing shit onto your neighbors' property is one of the purest joys of childhood

[Anonymous No.1516348]

>>1516339
It has an extended maagazine. Doom edition only.

[Anonymous No.1516354]

>>1516339
>he can't carry 50 rockets at once

[Anonymous No.1516363]

>>1516354
You forgot the pic.

[Anonymous No.1516371]

Remember that game where you threw the fucking boomerang and it never came back?
It's called real life and if i wanted to do that I would buy a fucking boomerang that throw outside and i would never come back.

[Anonymous No.1516365]

>>1516348
>You are a fucking demon
>Ya heard it. A frigging huge demon
>This tiny lil human runs at you weilding the hugest gun you've seen.
It is long as hell, and its cartidge is like ten foots long.
>He changes weapons, and now is ussing a rocket launcher.
>The rocket launcher has a auto reloading system, and the cartridge is easily three times longer than the pistol cartridge
>He starts runing arround you while shooting
>Niggawatyoudoing
>Can't help but be paralysed in awe by the lenght if the cartridge.
>Die

[Anonymous No.1516380]

>>1516371

[Anonymous No.1516384]

>>1516328
>games where you throw a boomerang and it lowers the ammo count
>but you get the ammo count back if you catch it on the return flight

[Anonymous No.1516385]

>>1516328

Oh hi.

[Anonymous No.1516397]

> Romp around the world with 123,567,999 gold pieces in your pocket
> You don't sink to the center of the earth with all that weight concentrated on a single point.

[Anonymous No.1516406]

>>1516397
Not to mention the effect you would have on the global economy at large, considering that monsters are an infinite source of money and items.

[Anonymous No.1516416]

>>1516313
The doom pistol is a beretta m9, so no...it can't be a higher caliber.

[Anonymous No.1516420]

>>1516406
> Kill a random monster
> It explodes into 300 gold pieces
> You encounter the same monster 2 seconds later- well, no. This one is purple.
> OH SHIT! THIS ONE IS POISONOUS!

[Anonymous No.1516425]

>>1516247
>every jap game ever
Just like every western game ever is a homoerotic muscle romp, right?

[Anonymous No.1516426]

> You are about to die
> Eat a Pizza
> All of your injuries dissapear.

[Anonymous No.1516443]

>>1516181

The really annoying thing is that the returning boomerangs are made purely for sports, it's basically aboriginal kite flying. Boomerangs like pic related are the real hunting shit, and they're supposed to fly straight at the target.

If you're going to make something that hits the target and still comes back to the player, just make whatever projectile you want and put magic on it.

[Anonymous No.1516456]

>>1516334
>legend of link

blasphemy

[Anonymous No.1516475]

>platformer
>mfw I can never know if the enemies die by jumping on them like in mario or not

[Anonymous No.1516481]

>an ancient evil awakens

[Anonymous No.1516483]

>>1516426
if only real life worked like that...

[Anonymous No.1516526]

>>1516443
So when you throw it do you hold onto the large end or the small one?

[Anonymous No.1516536]

>>1516526
my uneducated guess is that you throw it kind of like an axe, by the long part.

[Anonymous No.1516538]

>>1516425
Yes, exactly. You're both right.

[Anonymous No.1516553]

>>1516365
Why has no one made a mod like this, replacing the sprites with Doomguy holding x gun with a giant fucking cartridge to the side?

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.1516649]

>>1516247
>using the word "jap"
>being this mad

[Anonymous No.1516653]

>>1516247
I think you're taking this thread a mite bit too seriously. Go outside and take some deep breaths or something.

[Anonymous No.1516678]

>>1516305
Well plastic boomerangs are kinda shitty anyway. They have to be heavy enough not to be slowed down by air resistance.

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.1516692]

>>1516334
Are brown and white stoats two different species?

Or are they one species whose fur changes color depending on the season?

[Anonymous No.1516701]

>>1516334
He's not throwing the sword. It's a beam coming out of the sword.

>>1516397
Maybe they're specks of gold dust, which has been used as currency IRL.

>>1516406
You could go around killing humans for money as long as you didn't get caught. There's no such consequence for killing monsters, provided you're strong enough.

>>1516425
If somebody actually did go around exploring dungeons and killing monsters and saving the world, would it surprise you if they happened to be somewhat muscular? Or would you expect them to look like a gay j-pop star with a hair straightener?

[Anonymous No.1516703]

>>1516241
The boomerang returning happens in some, although I wouldn't really call it the norm I can remember it happens in Mega Man 2 and X1.

[Anonymous No.1516719]

>>1516701
The manual says he throws his sword. Have I been rused?

[Anonymous No.1516721]

>>1516247

[Anonymous No.1516726]

>>1516649
You are not Japanese. Please stop being a shithead if you're going to trip, so people won't hate you on sight, okay?

>>1516553
>>1516365
A bullet is the projectile that leaves the gun. The casing, primer, and powder are what launches it. A cartridge is the whole shebang of the case, primer, powder, and bullet. YMMV depending on if you're dealing with caseless ammo, gyrojet, shotguns, or whatever.

[Anonymous No.1516765]

>>1516443
This. Besides, if you throw a returning boomerang too hard (i.e., you're trying to kill something with it), it won't hit the target, it'll just fly straight up and stall out like a paper airplane. You can't just throw it with all your might and it'll come whistling back to you; it's actually pretty difficult to throw a boomerang, and takes a lot of practice.

tl;dr: Fantasy settings, best not to overthink this stuff.

[Anonymous No.1516784]

>>1516692

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoat#Fur

The second.

[Anonymous No.1516789]

>>1516181
>Springs propell you high into the air when you step on them
Reality is disappointing

[Anonymous No.1516794]

All deserts have quicksand. However, Jungles do not.

[Anonymous No.1516796]

>>1516247
Except OP said "cliches," meaning things that are common or at least reoccurring. Most of your shit is about specific games.

tl;dr you are both dumb and mad, but mostly dumb

[Anonymous No.1516797]

>>1516789
>if you can speed up an elevator and jump as soon as it stops abruptly, you can really go flying like in games
>the bad thing os you're gonna get turned into a pile of pudding
Reality is a bitch.

[Anonymous No.1516809]

>>1516794
Huh. Quicksand in the desert is one that I never really thought about.

[Anonymous No.1516813]

>>1516726
Hey. Hey you. Listen.

clip

[Anonymous No.1516815]

Run, jump, crawl, and swim, all while holding pistols, shotguns, assault rifle, rocket launcher, 50 clips, 30 rounds, dozen magazines, ten rockets, and 40 grenades.

[Anonymous No.1516859]

>>1516384
Only one that immediately comes to mind is the first TMNT. Could use that ammo replenish thing to share the boomerangs with the other turtles, or break the ammo counter by going over 99.

[Anonymous No.1516913]

Just turn-based combat in general is weird if you thing about it.
Like you're playing roshambo

[Anonymous No.1516923]

>>1516815
omg is that a real tweh?

[Anonymous No.1516926]

>>1516913
>you will never live in a glorious civilization where kingdoms solve disputes with the ancient and noble art of trading licks

[Anonymous No.1516991]

>touching monsters results in getting hurt by them
>oh wait, this one's actually true, since many wild animals will instinctively bite you when they feel threatened from your getting too close & cornering them, from insects & spiders up through mammals

[Anonymous No.1517017]

>>1516726
>You are not Japanese.
You don't know that. Don't you know it's rude to flout your ethnicity anyway?

[Anonymous No.1517045]

>>1516991
But do their feet have the capacity to kill you if you touch it?

[Anonymous No.1517054]

>>1516247
>sonic the hedgehog runs faster than a real hedgehog.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man

[Anonymous No.1517073]

>>1516371
>>1516227

Guys look up videos of real boomerangs. They fly in an arc, and sorta come back in your direction. To get one to actually come directly back to you is rather difficult.

[Anonymous No.1517078]

>>1516247
>>the zombies in resident evil literally work off of bullshit-explanation magics that violate the laws of thermodynamics to the extreme

I don't think it's THAT impossible. RE zombies are still "alive" right?

The other monsters however, that simply add mass out of nowhere are impossible.

[Anonymous No.1517124]

>i can carry 892 items and 362 weapons with me and if I equip them they just grow out of my ass

[Anonymous No.1517128]

>>1516247
You totally missed the point of OP. OP is not complaining, we are mentioning cliches that happen to be odd, and yet they keep being used.

[Anonymous No.1517129]

>>1516719
Yes you have been. The manual is sadly wrong.

[Anonymous No.1517145]

>>1516923
Not yet...
http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/1ba4/

[Anonymous No.1517345]

Boomerangs don't even have to have that iconic shape; they can be shaped like anything, as long as they produce lift and can be spun. The spinning, of course, is what gives their trajectory the curve that enables them to return.

[Anonymous No.1517374]

For most RPGS:

>Water is either an impenetrable barrier, or you drown instantly upon contact with it.
>As long as you have the HP to endure, you can walk on lava and just take some damage.

[Anonymous No.1517384]

>>1517374
>Magical/chemical potions that were clearly made JUST for the purpose of recovering from wounds

>will eventually be outclassed at some point by more mundane regular items (such as eating a cheeseburger or drinking water)

[Anonymous No.1517386]

>>1517384
I don't think I've ever played a game that has both potions and food as the healing items. Usually it's one or the other.

[Anonymous No.1517418]

>>1517386
Not retro, but Zenonia has it,

[Anonymous No.1517453]

>applying real world logic to fictional games

[Anonymous No.1517461]

Final boss is the parent of one of the main characters

[Anonymous No.1517465]

>>1517461

[Anonymous No.1517473]

>>1517386
All of the Fable games had that mechanic, at least 1 and 2 did. Also Castlevania symphony of the night had potions and food. Fables isn't retro, though.

[Anonymous No.1517527]

>>1516789
Well I was pleased to know that you don't die instantly when you step onto water.

[Anonymous No.1517539]

>>1517453
>thinking anyone is being remotely serious and that this thread isn't for having a giggle

Why are you people always in such a rush to prove how "smart" you are? Why don't you try to relax and have fun? No one is using this thread as a place to vent for their "serious" issues.

[Anonymous No.1517572]

This probably doesn't fit the topic, but

>have depleted all special weapons
>use the M tank
>have to sit through two whole minutes of DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.1517578]

>>1517572
Oops! Forgot to mention, Megaman 5 is the game this can happens in.

[Anonymous No.1517591]

>>1516443
So a true boomerang is just a shitty wooden tomahawk?

[Anonymous No.1517605]

>>1516475
>not doing the "attack check"
You just check if the protagonist has some attack dedicated button, if it doesn't then you can jump on enemies' heads.

[Anonymous No.1517652]

>>1517453
Just because they are fictional doesnt mean they have to be panties on head retarded. Devs really could make games more realistic, but the average gamer retard doesn't like it realistic, they only like flashy and fast entertainment.

[Anonymous No.1517659]

>>1517652
>the average gamer retard doesn't like it realistic
Yeah, that's why Japanese games are so popular and those wacky western games never sell.

[Anonymous No.1517668]

we /v/ now

[Anonymous No.1517707]

>>1517659
Both sides sell pretty well. I dont know what you are talking about.
It's just that devs don't really care about logic or realism, because it could make the gameplay "less interesting" for a lot of people. If you really always would have to run behind the boomerang and collect it again and again, this would be too frustrating for many. I'd prefer more realism though, since it would make it easier for me to make the world really believable and would add a lot to the atmosphere.

[Anonymous No.1517956]

>>1516794
never considered this, would you even get quicksand in a desert environment? do they need water to become quicksand?

also i guess quicksand is just one of the few level dangers that works in a desert along with cacti and tornadoes, jungles tend to have hosts of dangerous fauna and flora in games from what ive seen and usually things like thorns would be level dangers

[Anonymous No.1517969]

>>1516303
>What is a rapier?

[Anonymous No.1518023]

>>1517956
You could MAYBE have a air bubble under the sand that was so delicate than it would act as quicksand at any given weight.
But that is almost imposible due to the natura of sand. Just as it is imposible to have a lot of the US presidents being killed by a thunder in the same day.

[Anonymous No.1518028]

>>1517969
>what is reading?

[Anonymous No.1518031]

>>1516303
Erm. I have a sword in my house. And I can asure you than it makes the woosh sound.
And that is a light sword. Heavier swords come with more momentum ya know.

[Anonymous No.1518037]

>>1518028
You mean the thread? I read it.

>implying a European longsword is a rapier.

Also there are epée, foil, sabre, scabbards, artillery swords, falchions, scimitars, etc etc

[Anonymous No.1518040]

>>1518037
I confused rapier for spear for no known reason.

[Anonymous No.1518047]

>>1518037
And that's just the western world!

>>1518040
LAWL

I wish there were more games, now or then, that featured more ancient weapons. Not just some magical sword, or ancient demon possessed katana.

But like... Old Shaolin weapons. Ancient Chinese farm tools that were weaponized. Bad ass. Where you're actually like... a farmer who just goes to market to sell some grain and a few farm animals, encounters something bad or whatever, loses his wares, and in an effort to seek what was taken from him, ends up saving the world with his fucking thresher, or something. Again. Bad. Ass.

[Anonymous No.1518060]

>>1518047
Are there any games that feature the flying gullotine?

[Anonymous No.1518075]

>>1518060
I guess the closest would be like... Rygar. But that's his shield. So no.

[Anonymous No.1518086]

>>1517591
yes. why do you think racists make fun of aboriginals by saying "oh ho ho, what did they invent other than a stick?"

It's literal 100% truth: the two most recognised artefacts of their culture (the boomerang and the digereedoo) are literally just sticks/logs.

[Anonymous No.1518096]

>>1516242
>Neutopia 2
<3

[Anonymous No.1518103]

>>1518096
I used to play the shit out of it back in the 90s because I kept trying to kill that octopus thing and not have Jezeta die. Le sigh.

[Anonymous No.1518117]

>>1516247

>OP makes thread dedicated to talking about how games are silly and we enjoy that
>this sperglord comes out and spews spaghetti on everything

Really, go the fuck away.

[Anonymous No.1518123]

>>1517078

Being alive after brain death is impossible.

Zombies are supernatural bullshit. I used to enjoy them before they were in everything.

[Anonymous No.1518131]

>>1518031

>I have a sword in my house

I just made all kinds of internet subculture-based assumptions about what you look like.

[Anonymous No.1518151]

>>1516181

>Where's the weak spot?
>Oh, it's oviously the one that's GLOWING

[Anonymous No.1518156]

>>1516313

9mm chainguns exist in real life. They are about the size of a VCR and you actually crank them with a little one-handed crank to fire it.

[Anonymous No.1518161]

>>1516313

Is that from the Junior Christian Science Hour?

[Anonymous No.1518176]

>>1518123
>I used to enjoy them before they were in everything.

Were you born before 1957?

I can't even call you a hipster because zombies were ALWAYS cool. It's not a recent trend.

[Anonymous No.1518202]

>>1518161
Have no idea.

[Anonymous No.1518226]

>>1518176

Born in 1985. While Zombies have been a thing in one form or another since at least the making of the film White Zombie, only in the past several decades have they become oversaturated to the point where I'm just fucking bored with them.

[Anonymous No.1518230]

>>1518226
>Born in 1985

Ironically, that's when zombies were at their all-time peak in popularity.

[Anonymous No.1519024]

>touching side of spike kills you

[Anonymous No.1519072]

>>1519024

Spikes are the most deadly thing EVER!
Full health and touching one very slightly from any direction--> insta-kill

[Anonymous No.1519202]

>survive having a blade slice completely through your body.

[Anonymous No.1519206]

>>1517539

better question why are you pretending to be a retard on the internet with your free time

[Anonymous No.1519209]

>>1517659

japanese hate western games more than we hate japanese games

[Anonymous No.1519253]

>Shoot something 5 times in the toenail
>It dies

[Anonymous No.1519282]

>>1519253
>Shoot an enemy's gun
>they die

[Anonymous No.1519310]

>>1519253
right up until which point, it experiences no loss in strength or ability

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.1519573]

>>1519253
>stab someone with a sword
>he explodes

[Anonymous No.1519637]

>>1519573
Fuck yeah, Shinobi

[Anonymous No.1519648]

>get slasshed, stabbed, sliced and diced
>walk normally

[Anonymous No.1519660]

>changing direction in mid-jump

[Anonymous No.1519679]

>>1516247
Celts had slingshots. Just saiyan.

[Anonymous No.1519706]

>>1519253
>Elderly out-of-shape CEO (or other feeble-but-important character)
>Can withstand 5 times as much damage as an elite mercenary clad in cutting-edge body armor

[Anonymous No.1519715]

>>1519706
>new party member is a towering commando with arms like motherfucking tree-trunks
>does less damage than the androgynous 95-pound main character

[Anonymous No.1520086]

>>1519679
slings or slingshots?

[Anonymous No.1520137]

>defeat a monster or a person
>steal their money just because
I like how in pokemon you can beat little trainers and get their money like a normal daily thing to do.

[Anonymous No.1520153]

>>1520137
I think it's a common thing for them to give you monry, like a bet. But I laughed.

[Anonymous No.1520175]

>>1516301
>Ninjas can't really cling to walls
Bullshit.

[Anonymous No.1521396]

>The monster always somehow carries gold.
I always explained it away by the fact that they might've taken it after killing something.

[Anonymous No.1521410]

>>1520137

>Kill a monster
>They then turn into money

I always found that funny for some reason

[Anonymous No.1521423]

>>1520137
On that pokemon note -

in the pokemon world, it's completely fine to trap and enslave the local wildlife and force them to fight one another

[Anonymous No.1521435]

>>1519715
>ordinary rank-and-file soldiers all wear simple practical uniforms
>high-ranking generals and admirals wear garish suits, lots of jewelry, bizarre hairstyles, and Lady Gaga makeup

[Anonymous No.1521534]

>>1519024
It's poisoned

The only one that always bothered me was that finding old hamburgers, cooked chickens, and hambones in thrash cans and even in dilapidated castle walls increased your health.

How long has that shit been there? Is it rotten? It's most definitely dirty and would probably make you sick

[Anonymous No.1521590]

>>1521410
> Kill a monster
> It becomes a super rare sword.

[Anonymous No.1521604]

>>1521534
Metro City might be overrun with crime, but at least no hobo ever starved under Haggar's time as mayor.

[Anonymous No.1521602]

> Fire maze
> Ice maze
> Rock maze
> Plant maze
> Underwater shrine
> Sky castle

[Anonymous No.1521615]

>>1516481

We could dedicate an entirely different thread to narrative cliche.

Pop quiz: how many games can you think of off-hand that, when you get right down to it, are just another telling of the monomyth?

[Anonymous No.1521634]

> Break into someone else's house
> Steal their valuable stuff
> You are the good guy

[Anonymous No.1522126]

>>1516181
Really? Has nobody mentioned THIS guy yet?!

[Anonymous No.1522151]

>>1516303

Do you even lift?

[Anonymous No.1522152]

>>1518086
>being less developed than native Americans and Africans
Are abbos even trying?

[Anonymous No.1522158]

>>1521410
I always wondered how the economy of a fantasy world would function given this. Presumably the local Jewry would enact legislation on the hunting of monsters, or they would hunt all the wild monsters and keep only caged specimens for breeding.

[Anonymous No.1522164]

Thanks /vr/. Suddenly I know some basic and competitive boomerang technique.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTMR_e8pbRQ

[Anonymous No.1522220]

>>1517045
If they're a jellyfish, most likely.

[Anonymous No.1522223]

>>1517572
Well no it doesn't. If I were carrying (or had built into me) a whole bunch of wacky weapons and I tried to reload them all, it would probably take me a few minutes to do so, especially if I wasn't that familiar with them (having only snagged them earlier that day).

[Anonymous No.1522409]

>>1522158

A lot of the times, I wonder about the reverse sides of things. If you have a setting where dragons come and plunder towns that have wealth, how come almost no town of wealth sufficient to attract a dragon has any sort of defenses against a dragon attack?

You'd think one would be more or less inevitable.

[Anonymous No.1522420]

>>1517652
False, actually. Modern average gamers THINK they like realistic, though for them, realism consists of any FPS game with a hunger system slapped on it, really.

[Anonymous No.1522427]

>>1522158
How about a game where rather than money, you just get the creature's dead, lifeless body as a reward? You can then sell it to a poacher in a town or learn to poach it yourself for its refined parts such as pelts, meat, bones/teeth etc (that sell for more money than the bodies themselves do). Lufia II did something like this IIRC. It's been a very, very long time since I've played Lufia II.
Either way, I've played games that did similar things to what I describe.

[Anonymous No.1522429]

>>1522409
Wild Arms had a town that had an invisible barrier that kept dangerous non-human creatures from entering. Presumably, towns in other games have similar wards about them to keep such creatures out.

[Anonymous No.1522428]

>>1522126
I still find it glorious that they made a game based on a character that's literally a walking Australian stereotype.

Decent game though.

[Anonymous No.1522470]

>rpg
>you can use items like potions or revives
>your enemies can't, specially damn revives
Most rpgs are like that, ffs.
>>1521634
Link is a very very bad boy

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>>1521634

One of my favorite RPGs ever, an indie thing called Falling Stars made out of the Blades of Exile scenario editor, actually does punish you for this.

Break into people's homes and a hidden reputation stat falls through the floor. And if your rep is low, people hide from you, don't give you quests, and stiff you if they do give you missions.

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>>1522427
Not retro, but this was the money making/also equipment obtaining method in final fantasy 12.
It also made me obsessively Steal from EVERYTHING.

[Anonymous No.1522490]

>>1522470
>enemies can revive themselves
There's a fine line between fun and tedious, and random encounters being able to draw themselves out crosses it quite soundly.

[Anonymous No.1522515]

>>1522490
In some bosses or mini-bosses with important enemies it should happen. If you can revive your partners, then some enemies should do the same with a limit obviously.

[Anonymous No.1522539]

Enemies getting revived does happen in RPGs. Right off the top of my head:

>Magus Sisters in FFIV
>Cure rabbits (I think that's what they're called) in FFV
>That thing you fight when you get Red XIII in FF7

It's why in some of these fights the strategy is to kill the healer first.

[Anonymous No.1522884]

>>1522427

Ever wonder how in a lot of older RPGs, if you killed some kind of animal, like a deer or a rabbit, it would often drop meat? Now think of where those rations you get when you cut up bandits are coming from.

Remember Avatar, cannibalism is the ninth virtue!

[Anonymous No.1522902]

>>1522223
>clip half-empty
>reload
>clip instantaneously full
>no loss of the bullets that had been remaining in clip, so it was obviously refilled, not changed out
>irl it takes a while to push cartridges one-by-one into spring-loaded magazine, notwithstanding additional equipment made for that specific purpose

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>>1522884
pardon my ignorance, but what are some of those games?

[Anonymous No.1522915]

> any shooter ever
> MC is able to comfortably carry with him a ridiculous arsenal of heavy weapons
> rocket launcher, gatling gun, pistol, two assault rifles, crossbow, etc
> amounting to roughly 100 kilos of metal
> runs and crouches and jumps without any difficulty
> actually would need something stuck to every limb, plus two bulky weapons strapped on back
> MC doesn't look loaded with weapons in external view, just a dude

[Anonymous No.1522924]

>>1522904

Nahlakh was an interesting example. If I remember right, you could get some meat by killing animals, or casting "create food".

Now once you get transported to Demon realm, and you cast create food, you get bones and "Unidentified meat"..

[Anonymous No.1522934]

>>1522904

Ultimas 6 and on (including underworlds), Exile 1-3, Dungeon Master 2, in general, western RPGs from about 1992 (getting complex enough to have mechanics like food and itemized monster drops) and 1998 or so, before BG ushered in a foodless CRPG. (I'm not necessarily saying BG was the casue, but it certainly became the norm and a shift away from a different paradig)


>>1522915

Why do you think DOOMGUY can't jump?

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>>1522934
>>1522924
Thank you, I am actually criminally ignorant of western RPGs pre-Oblivion & will check those out

[Anonymous No.1523021]

>>1517045
if it's a platypus then yes, or a member of the cat family, or a kangaroo

[Anonymous No.1523041]

>>1522934
>Why do you think DOOMGUY can't jump?
Because he doesn't need such a silly thing, darn bastard runs at 95km/60miles per hour without rest.

[Anonymous No.1523048]

> health is low
> player starts emitting high pitched beeping

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>>1516247

[Anonymous No.1523078]

Boomerang owner here.

I made my own. Works really well too. Returns like a charm.

Doesn't seem like a hunting tool though. More like a toy. I'll be right back with pics.

[Anonymous No.1523092]

>>1523078
Right here.

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>>1523092
ever kill a nigger with that thing??

[Anonymous No.1523114]

Would the boomerang be a fairly obscure instrument if it weren't for the Zelda games? I wonder how Miyamoto got the idea of it?

[Anonymous No.1523137]

>>1523109
Nah. Almost took down a telephone pole though.It'll give a pretty nasty wack though.

The larger the interior angle, the more power it takes to make it have a gyroscopic effect and longer distance, with lower rotations.

My boomerang, with a small interior angle, has a small arc but hurts like a bitch.

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>>1521423
I remember coming up with a headcanon to explain this but for fuck's sake I can't remember it now.

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>>1522126
Too bad the sequels were ass. I have shit tons of nostalgia for this game, and it proved that any platformer during the ps2 era was at least decent. This and Vexx.

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>>1523114
The first time you've seen a boomerang is in a Zelda game??

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>>1523157
Could it have been something as simple as "the Pokémon universe doesn't have an animal rights movement"?

Because enslaving wildlife and treating it like shit is pretty standard human behavior.

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>>1523137
>the monomyth

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>>1522427

The Etrian Odyssey series uses a system like this.

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>>1523203

>Mfw the first people of Pokemon Universe to ponder about animal rights are the villains of Black & White, and except for N and one faction of that group they didn't really care for those rights at all

[Anonymous No.1523927]

>>1516247
>if boomerangs bother you.....
this right here sums up his mistake, OP never said there was a PROBLEM with boomerangs defying physics.

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>>1522427
I've played a few games where monsters drop items that can be sold for money, and IMO it's kind of annoying. I'd rather just cut out the middleman and have the monsters drop money.

So I guess that's why enemies drop money in RPG's. They don't want to annoy you with the chore of having to sell the monster's parts, instead they just sort of imply it to be happening.

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>>1516227
>mfw I can throw a boomerang and it will always come back

People don't seem to realise that there's a technique to it. Polite sage for off-topic.

[Anonymous No.1525338]

>>1523114
I don't know about you, but I knew about boomerangs before Zelda.

[Anonymous No.1525351]

>>1523114
>Would the boomerang be a fairly obscure instrument if it weren't for the Zelda games?

No.

[Anonymous No.1525376]

>>1522904
The original Breath of Fire did that.

[Anonymous No.1525401]

>>1523114
Holy crap. Nintendo fans are THIS sheltered.

[Anonymous No.1525412]

>>1516397
In TES Daggerfall, money have weight. You have to go to a bank and change your gold for a letter of credit if you want to get rid of it. It's sad that small details like this are forgotten in old games.

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>>1525351

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>>1516181
Not in my Castlevania.

[Anonymous No.1527159]

In Megaman X if you jump and throw the boomerang at just the right height, it'll orbit around you forever (until you move obvs).

[Anonymous No.1527186]

>>1521410
that's a little easier than some things to believe. like if it's a humanoid creature then it might collect things it's found, or if it's large enough perhaps it ate a human(or other race with tools/monetary systems and all but the metal and word were digested, leaving them in it's stomach till you kill it and cut it open

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>>1525412
not retro but fallout3 and new Vegas are kind of like that. Monry doesn't add weight iirc, but nv has a mode where every single bullet you have adds weight. money might add weight in that mode but also it's not gold. if you have dozens of gold bricks in a back pack you should be fukt

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>>1525412
>You have to go to a bank and change your gold for a letter of credit if you want to get rid of it
It would be neat to play an RPG that did this, and halfway through shops start taking the promisory notes as payment instead of the gold. And then the bank goes insolvent from lending and collapses the in-game economy

[Anonymous No.1527254]

>uncover lost civilization, you're the first person to lay eyes on it in thousands of years
>all the chests have contemporary money and equipment in them

[Anonymous No.1527269]

>>1527254
Concerning money:
If it's a setting that uses gold coins for currency, then all coins are valued by weight. It doesn't actually matter what shape they're in, it just matters that they're made of gold.

Concerning equipment:
The ancients were so advanced that modern technology is only now catching up with them? idk

[Anonymous No.1527286]

>>1527269
>The ancients were so advanced that modern technology is only now catching up with them? idk

Let's be fair. If we had some sort of cataclysmic event where most of the world and its population was killed, and people are roaming the earth like nomads, uncovering old shit might end up being better than what you have.

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>>1527219
Ultima 7 Part 2 has four different currencies as well as a few goods that can be sold for cash.
http://wiki.ultimacodex.com/wiki/Serpent_Isle_Exchange_Rate

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>>1522902
>clip

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>>1527254
>>1527269
>>1527286

>exploring a temple of a lost civilization
>find a baseball bat with nails in it

>mfw.jpeg

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>>1527286
>some sort of cataclysmic event where most of the world and its population was killed
and every fucking setting has had one or more of these

[Anonymous No.1528156]

>>1528141
FF6 was unique in that it happened twice. The second time was DURING THE FUCKING GAME!

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>>1523198
>>1525338
Since I was born in 1984, I wasn't aware of very much before Zelda (1986). I didn't mean to imply that Zelda was the first place where *I* heard of the boomerang, but conceivably Zelda was the source/inspiration of all the other boomerang references that I picked up in my life, which is what I was curious about.

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>>1521534
>its poisoned
not to over think this, but even if this was true, the poison would still have to make contact with your blood stream.

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>>1528156
Futuristic post-apoc fantasy is the best.

[Anonymous No.1532493]

>humanoid animal for protagonist
>has one article of human clothing
it's been a cliche across adverts mediums for a very long time though,games weren't the first to do it

[Anonymous No.1532547]

>>1532493
Probably a carryover from cartoons. And the article of clothing is to help identify otherwise identically drawn characters.

[Anonymous No.1532558]

>>1532547
Not only that, but to actually create the character visually. Those 3 without their clothes are just some shitty ducks.

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>>1521410
>>1521590
>>1522158
>>1527186
I think that in Diablo or other similar game, in some part, some manual, I can't remember actualy... they try to explain that the magic that gets released once you slay a monster creates loot

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>>1516247
>sonic the hedgehog runs faster than a real hedgehog.

lold

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>>1516483
because you receive life threatening wounds on the daily.

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>>1516227
I found a dead cat once that was shaped like a boomerang. I threw it and it came back. It didn't end well.