>people liking Sonic Adventure 2 more The first Sonic Adventure had the best gameplay physics/controls of any Sonic game. Controlling Sonic in SA2 was a clunky experience and a huge step down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnNTj0zwMFU

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Anonymous Wed Apr 2 07:46:16 2014 No.1514716 [DELETED]

>people liking Sonic Adventure 2 more

The first Sonic Adventure had the best gameplay physics/controls of any Sonic game.
Controlling Sonic in SA2 was a clunky experience and a huge step down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnNTj0zwMFU

Anonymous Wed Apr 2 08:49:51 2014 No.1514762
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>The first Sonic Adventure had the best gameplay physics/controls/music of any 3D Sonic game.
I fixed your obvious mistakes and with these minor changes I can agree with you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 08:57:21 2014 No.1514765 >>1514762 Not retro, but sonic heroes is the superior 3d sonic IMO

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 09:01:51 2014 No.1514769 >>1514716 Shame both games sucked dick.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 09:06:21 2014 No.1514773 >>1514769 like both your parents.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 09:16:52 2014 No.1514780 >>1514773 >angry sonic fans Sammy pls

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 09:20:21 2014 No.1514785 >>1514716 The first Sonic Adventure had the best gameplay physics/controls of any Sonic game. Controlling Sonic in SA2 was a clunky experience and a huge step down What a terrible opinion.

Anonymous Wed Apr 2 10:06:51 2014 No.1514824

SA2 had really predictable and fun physics (when they worked) and it's the only game in the series to do a dark main plot with any degree of success (some of the subplots in Adventure and later games were okay too) and some of the nicest environments in the series, not to mention the music.

SA1 has meh controls and terrible terrible animations. The voicework is also worse. The hub worlds, secrets, and environments were nice though, and the story is a mixed bag (but 90% of it is soiled by bad dialogue/animations)

Sonic Heroes is not very good. A few levels were cool, but overall it was way too dependant on setpieces and puzzles. The environments didn't feel natural at all, especially with the giant oversaturated goofy-looking enemies and puzzle markers. It's entertaining in short bursts, but it's a weak game overall and I think most people like it solely for nostalgia.

Shadow the Hedgehog is leagues better than Heroes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 10:12:21 2014 No.1514832 >>1514785 It's true though. You had way more control over yur characters, and the gameplay was a lot smoother. SA2 seemed like a watered down version of the original.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 10:14:21 2014 No.1514835 >>1514824 >Shadow the Hedgehog is leagues better than Heroes. I was surprised to find it was true. That game was really fun actually, borrowed my pal's Gamecube and played that shit for weeks.

Anonymous Wed Apr 2 11:24:51 2014 No.1514931

I dunno, man, there are many things in Adventure that feel flawed that were revised and improved in Adventure 2.

For me, reducing the number of playstyles to 3 was actually a good idea. I mean, Amy's gameplay was OK in 1, but I don't think many people were really fond of her in the first place. Tails just played like a broken Sonic and Big the Cat was... Big the Cat.

I may like Gamma as a character way too much, but he had that stupid thing where if he started "running" he'd get on wheels, and sometimes that wouldn't allow him to go over ant-high ledges, had to jump to make him stand up again. Robotnik and Tail's Mech thingies don't do that, and it feels a bit less cumbersome.

The controls for Chao Garden in 1 were retarded. "Let me feed my Chao OH NO I KICKED IT IN THE FACE why is the computer talking to me?". I like how in 2 they improved that, they added the stats screen and included crystals so you could add stats without losing others. That is, if ou give a shit about the Chao Garden/

I also think the sidequests and everything in the hub in 1 was pointless padding. 2 had the decency of just making a map the level select.

That being said, I still prefer 1's music and characters. I may have said Tails played like a broken Sonic, but I liked it that way. And Gamma is Gamma, so there goes that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 11:45:03 2014 No.1514971 >>1514832 That's your opinion not a fact

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 11:46:03 2014 No.1514972 but SA2 was less cringeworthy and still way more effort and had more content than SA1. I'm glad they gave Sonic the makeover he deserved. the cutscenes suck in SA1. gameplay is fine.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 11:49:33 2014 No.1514973 SA2 had the best fucking soundtrack and is my favorite game of all time. Knuckles' stages especially music-wise and pretty fun. also, breast bouncing animation 10/10

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 12:08:03 2014 No.1515000 I've learned not to discuss this game with 4chan. Whether you like it or hate it, the discussion that follows always makes me unpleasant.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 12:11:03 2014 No.1515007 >>1515000 Why? What upsets you so much you can't discus a game?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 12:12:04 2014 No.1515013 >>1515007 It is the game that is viewed as the tipping point for all autistic babbies and that means all discussion of it will eventually break down into accusations of shit taste and being a furry.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 12:20:03 2014 No.1515027 >>1515013 Well thank you for posting something related to the game and contributing to the good health of this game and its discussion instead of complaining about some shit that hasn't happened. Personally my favorite thing about SA1 is the music.

Anonymous Wed Apr 2 12:27:03 2014 No.1515037

>>1515013

That would be /v/. Here we were actually discussing gameplay elements. Besides, whenever you see a shitstorm coming it's always easy to abandon the thread anyways.

>>1515027

Yeah, pretty much. I may like SA2's gameplay better, but 1's music had that extra "hmph!" to it, if you get what I mean. Hell, even Big's Theme screams big fun to me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 13:13:03 2014 No.1515129 Music from SA1 was just rehashes and stolen music. Sound familiar? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6Pfx_r0aeA

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 13:18:32 2014 No.1515143 >>1515129 That's been the case for Sonic since forever.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 13:20:32 2014 No.1515148 >>1515129 Inside Red Mountain. But this is probably no different to Sonic CD's (Not US) boss theme sampling.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 13:31:32 2014 No.1515175 >>1514971 It is a fact. Look at Sonic's reaction times in SA2. Have you played SA even? It's pretty noticeable.

Anonymous Wed Apr 2 13:35:33 2014 No.1515185
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sa2 has better sonic gameplay and less auto pilot hold forward to win content. some people have said that sa1 was just a dreamcast tech demo, and they're probably not wrong.

one thing sa1 did right though was basing the whole game around sonic stages. because of that they could cram in other character playstyles into the already fun stages.

Anonymous Wed Apr 2 14:47:49 2014 No.1515378

>>1515185
I felt the re-use of stages was pretty lazy and SA2's levels all being designed around the character they were for worked out better. I'd say both games are about equal for automated sections. Also you can expect tech demo-ness out of a launch title.

Anonymous Wed Apr 2 15:15:49 2014 No.1515449
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Shame it had the second-least coherent story (after '06), most pointless gameplay styles (FISHING), and worst gameplay mechanic that kept cropping up for some reason (Adventure Fields, which were re-used in '06 and Unleashed).

Anonymous Wed Apr 2 15:21:19 2014 No.1515461

>>1514716
I loved SA2 when I was around 12 maybe, possibly a bit older and 14. Never played the original. Went back to it last year and dear god it's a shittingly awful game, zero redeeming features.

Can someone genuinely explain what's to like about them, if they still do now?

Anonymous Wed Apr 2 15:30:49 2014 No.1515468
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>>1515461
SA1
>Sonic the Hedgehog IN 3D!
>Crush 40's debut
>Nostalgia
>Chao Garden
>Uh...

SA2
>Nixed SA1's clunkier aspects (Amy, Big, Tails, Adventure Fields)
>Improved the salvagable stuff (Sonic, Knuckles, E-102's gameplay, Chao Garden)
>Finally play as THE Dr. Eggman (and a couple of new chucklefucks that divided the fanbase for decades afterward)
>Unique levels for each character
>Optional missions for each level
>Even better Gamecube port

SA1 did it all first, but SA2 did it better, and added some more stuff of varying quality. Unfortunately, neither of them have aged well at all.

Anonymous Wed Apr 2 17:13:36 2014 No.1515624

>>1514716
>The first Sonic Adventure had the best gameplay physics/controls of any Sonic game.

>Play Sonic Adventure 1.
>Hit speed-up Ramp.
>come to a complete stop at an incline.
>Slowly walk up incline.
>Suddenly take off at full speed.

Tell me another.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 04:09:35 2014 No.1516972 SA1 and 2 threads are the worst kind of Sonic threads.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 17:36:55 2014 No.1518137 They both sucked -glitches everywhere -horrid camera angles -annoying characters -typical early video game Voice acting SA2 wins by default because it didn't have fishing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 20:43:58 2014 No.1518549 they're fun games but not particularly great and Colors/Generations have completely superseded them in every way

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 20:55:58 2014 No.1518576 >>1518549 Generations is overrated but still good. However I don't consider it better than the Adventure series.

Anonymous Sat Apr 5 03:53:14 2014 No.1522059

The adventure games are shit. SA was just there to show off the DC's power and exist as like a big demo disc of Sega games with each character. Big was Sega Bass Fishing, E102 was a shitty Panzer Dragon and the other characters were just shit.

Sonic levels consisted of holding forward then tapping A at predesignated a-tapping areas like the numbered pads or lines of homing attackable enemies. If you're not holding forward or tapping A mindlessly you're watching Sonic fly through rings via lightspeed dash. So much of Sonic's levels leave nothing for the player to do you can just put the controller down during some segments.

Any time Sonic is a board you can put the controller down and go get a drink while Sonic plays with himself. When Sonic is running down a building cinematically you can just put the controller down because slamming into shit means nothing.

Sonic Adventure needed the ranking system it had because there's no incentive for the player to replay some linear as fuck levels

>>	Smile Sat Apr 5 04:03:14 2014 No.1522068 sa2 is the only good 3d sonic and the 3rd best sonic overall

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 04:34:44 2014 No.1522094 >>1514972 >but SA2 was less cringeworthy This is so fucking wrong, you could practically feel the spaghetti coming from the TV. >every scene with a human in it

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 04:53:14 2014 No.1522112 >>1522094 >let's judge a sonic game with the cinematics.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 06:37:53 2014 No.1522187 You see? Do you see? You make a Sonic Adventure thread on 4chan and tell me to let my guard down and then that guy shows up who makes sweeping statements about people who enjoy it. Next we're going to attract the "Sonic was always mediocre" crowd...

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 07:02:23 2014 No.1522214 File: 67 KB, 640x480, 1396695727447.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] best sonic

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 07:36:24 2014 No.1522232 >>1514716 I say Sonic Jam was better but why didn't they finish it?

Anonymous Sat Apr 5 08:17:00 2014 No.1522254

Yeah. I actually agree with OP there that SA1 is better. It's called Sonic ADVENTURE. And with the first game, it truly was. You explored the hub world, talked to people, carried items around, found different items, activated doors, flew a plane, played pinball, drove a car, ran to the end of the stage, raced Sonic, went snowboarding, searched for pieces of the master emerald, blew shit up, went fishing, outran a robot, raised a chao, and finally became super sonic. And there were SEVEN endings! Now THAT is what I would call an adventure. Sonic Adventure 2 doesn't deserve to be called an adventure. They replaced half of the characters with clones, got rid of the hub world, got rid of the diverse levels, and you only get one ending! They should have called it "Sonic and Shadow" or something. And the camera sucked way worse in SA2, too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 08:39:00 2014 No.1522274 >wall physics my stomach hurts

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 08:59:00 2014 No.1522295 >>1518549 >Sonic Generations >run to win >clunky as fuck control mechanics, especially in modern Sonic >scripted like hell despite having so many different stages

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 09:01:30 2014 No.1522297 >>1522068 >Smile Opinion discarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 09:24:00 2014 No.1522318 >>1522254 Motherfucking this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 09:33:31 2014 No.1522327 >>1522187 It always was mediocre, though. There's a crowd because it's the truth.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 09:34:00 2014 No.1522332 >>1522295 There isn't a single stage in that game where you just run to win. If you can show me a vid of one, I'll gladly admit I was wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 09:36:30 2014 No.1522334 Sonic 1-3 and Sonic Adventure are the only Sonic games I like The only thing that was better in Adventure 2 was the Chao minigame

Anonymous Sat Apr 5 09:55:01 2014 No.1522343
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>>1522318
>You explored the hub world
Most of which was empty.
>talked to people
>carried items around
>activated doors
Yay, it's like an RPG, but without any actual RPG mechanics. But in Sonic's story, you can run faster. All the better to get to the actual stages instead of dilly-dallying.
>drove a car
"Why the hell am I in a car?" And that's why Sonic Drift sucks.
>raced Sonic
Following the same path as Sonic's stages, but with a time limit and painfully obvious shortcuts.
>went fishing
If you like that, then there's a whole GAME of fishing on the Dreamcast: Sega Bass Fishing. Now get the fuck out of my Sonic the Hedgehog game.
>searched for pieces of the master emerald
"This way!" WOOSH! Whoop-de-fucking-doo.
>raised a chao
It's like Tamagotchi, except it bogs down a game that is already bloated with "extra features".

OK, now for the good parts:
>flew a plane
Sonic 2
>played pinball
Sonic the Hedgehog, Sonic 2, Sonic CD
>ran to the end of the stage
Every single Sonic game ever
>went snowboarding
Sonic 3
>blew shit up
Every single Sonic game ever
>outran a robot
Sonic CD
>And there were SEVEN endings!
Sonic 3 and Knuckles did it better with only 3.
>finally became Super Sonic
Sonic 2, Sonic 3 and Knuckles (but you could do it in ANY stage)

tl;dr: Did you play ANY Sonic games before 1998?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 09:56:30 2014 No.1522345 >>1522332 >There isn't a single stage in that game where you just run to win. I don't recall doing anything other than running to the finish line overall. Did I play a different game?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 09:59:30 2014 No.1522351 >>1522343 Fuck off with your contrarian bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 10:00:00 2014 No.1522353 >>1522345 Apparently so. There's plenty of platforming in each level.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 10:02:00 2014 No.1522357 >>1522343 >If you like that, then there's a whole GAME of fishing on the Dreamcast: Sega Bass Fishing. Now get the fuck out of my Sonic the Hedgehog game. I bet you HATED Grand Theft Auto's taxi missions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 10:03:30 2014 No.1522358 >>1522353 Yeah. Must have missed it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 10:03:30 2014 No.1522359 >>1522351 >pointing out hat the games "new" aspects bogged what could have been a decent game down, and the actually good parts were in previous Sonic games, often done better My point Your head

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 10:05:00 2014 No.1522362 >>1522359 >your opinion >my opinion

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 10:05:00 2014 No.1522363 >>1522357 Why should I have to drive a goddamn taxi when I'm supposed to be running a crime ring? I know Grand Theft Auto isn't all "hurr durr blow shit up", but come on...a fucking taxi?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 10:07:30 2014 No.1522364 >>1522363 You have a very weird taste.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 10:10:30 2014 No.1522370 >>1522362 >My facts (large parts of the game were superfluous to the series' strongest point--high-speed platforming, and the good parts were done better in previous games) >Your opinion (fuck off)

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 10:13:00 2014 No.1522375 File: 30 KB, 413x395, laughing-alcoholic.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1514716 >The first Sonic Adventure had the best gameplay physics/controls of any Sonic game >any Sonic game >any

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 10:13:30 2014 No.1522373 >>1522370 >Your facts (Your opinions) >My Opinion (Fuck off with your opinions)

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 10:15:00 2014 No.1522379 >>1522363 Because it's an added activity to help make money. Also, fucking called it. Go find another game to cry about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 10:16:30 2014 No.1522380 File: 445 KB, 473x640, IMG_0140.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1522375 Finally, someone who gets it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 10:17:00 2014 No.1522384 >>1522343 I'm not sure how a completely optional extra can "bog down" a game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 10:18:00 2014 No.1522385 File: 55 KB, 450x600, 450px-Shadow_the_fomo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1522379 Why a taxi? Why not robbery? Why not paid assassinations? Why not drug dealing (more so than usual, anyway)?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 10:19:00 2014 No.1522389 >>1522385 You can already do shit like that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 10:19:30 2014 No.1522386 >>1522375 It's true. Even more so for games after that.

Anonymous Sat Apr 5 10:22:30 2014 No.1522392

>>1522384
>fishing
Has a whole story dedicated to it. If you want to play as Super Sonic and beat the game, you have to go fishing.
>drove a car
Mercifully brief, but still necessary.
>You explored the hub world
>talked to people
>carried items around
>activated doors
>optional
I'm beginning to think you never played this game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 10:25:30 2014 No.1522398 >>1522386 I don't remember falling through the level on any Sonic game before SA.

Anonymous Sat Apr 5 10:28:00 2014 No.1522407

>>1522392
I don lik fishin
I don lik talkin
I just lik runnin
Dis game a shit
Not enuff runnin

Actually in SA1 the stages felt like something more of a level to clear. You earned the right to play each stage because you had to explore the story and look for it yourself. In SA2 you picked a side and played whatever the computer threw at you. The levels were just there.

Anonymous Sat Apr 5 10:28:30 2014 No.1522406

>>1522392
I was talking about the Chao minigame, which was quoted as bogging the game down.

I notice how you conveniently left that out of your examples in your reply.

For the record, I have 3 version of SA (DC original, GC remake, and HD version on 360), so please don't give me this "you never played this game" bullshit.

Chao raising is entirely optional. Prove me wrong. It doesn't "bog down the game" in any way, unless you are purposely going out of your way to "bog it down" by playing the minigame.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 10:31:30 2014 No.1522410 >>1522398 I wasn't talking about that. I was referring to the gameplay mechanics, those are more like bugs of some sort, which yes SA1 had a bunch of.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 10:32:30 2014 No.1522412 >>1522407 *felt like something more Than a level to clear

Anonymous Sat Apr 5 10:41:30 2014 No.1522421
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>>1522412
If you want "more than a level to clear", play The Legend of Zelda or Final Fantasy or something like that. Those were designed with large-scale exploration in mind from the very beginning.

Sonic has always been about high-speed platforming; the proportion of high speed to platforming can change with each game (compare Sonic the Hedgehog's platforming-heavy gameplay to Sonic 2's speed), but the core mechanics must remain. Sonic Adventure, Sonic Adventure 2, and every Sonic game since then (with the debatable exception of Generations, which is beyond /vr/'s scope anyway) has deviated from this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 11:09:00 2014 No.1522468 >>1522421 >If you want "more than a level to clear", play The Legend of Zelda or Final Fantasy Or Sonic Adventure, which also offered that. Playing a SA level felt more rewarding than in SA2 to me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 11:14:30 2014 No.1522474 One game has City Escape, the other doesn't I think we all know deep down what the best one actually is

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 11:32:30 2014 No.1522506 >>1522474 >City Escape But White Jungle, Dry Lagoon and Pumkin Hill are also god tier.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 11:35:30 2014 No.1522510 >>1522468 but SA2 also has 6 different missions where you clear stuff. Boy, I fucking loved that when I had it on my GC. it was the first game I had and it was full of content. That was the best thing about SA2. Lots and lots of content.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 11:38:31 2014 No.1522517 >>1522506 Pumpkin Hill is shit in everything except the music. Its one of Knuckles worst levels.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 11:46:30 2014 No.1522530 >>1522517 Red Mountain is likely the best Knuckles level from both. Sky Deck was pretty fucking hard, but wasn't as enjoyable.

Anonymous Sat Apr 5 12:09:28 2014 No.1522565

SA1 was more adventure than 2. 1 for me had the right direction of what Sonics levels should be with more paths than being more linear like 2 was(except for Final Rush/Chase because players can be crazy). Story? Both are meh, but 1 had the thing about the chaos emeralds.
Everything else was better in 2, chao, gameplay, graphics, characters(except Gamma, but my Eggman in 2) and full of content and FREE DLC(kart racing I am looking at you). Soundtrack I liked both, one had up and down and all around, the other escape from da city.
Heroes had one of the best osts of any Sonic, but fuck that 3 gameplay or getting the special levels(get key, can't get hit or you will miss special stage). Some stages had the right direction with more than 2 paths like the first 2 levels, but others were argh... like that rail one. I don't mind a short rail, but long-ass levels with rails? No.
Shadow never played.
>>1522517
>>1522530
Aquatic Mine was pretty fun because my swimming while he shits and dives blablabla on the mines.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 12:14:15 2014 No.1522575 File: 21 KB, 340x340, sides.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1522410 >>1522386 >>1522380

Anonymous Sat Apr 5 12:17:14 2014 No.1522586

>>1514716
>Sonic Adventure had the best gameplay physics/controls

confirmed for trolling.

ALL the 3d sonic games suffered from collision errors, bad controls, and awful camera. Yes, even Generations had its share of issues. You run at 1000km/h at one point and then you halt to 0 speed instantly because you collide with a transparent part of a ground texture that halfway covers a ridge to the left of you. That's how practically all the 3d sonic games play as.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 12:20:14 2014 No.1522591 >>1522345 >I don't recall doing anything other than running to the finish line overall. Yeah, Sonic should be walking instead.

Anonymous Sat Apr 5 13:23:43 2014 No.1522723

C'mon guys, /vr/ has been more civil than /v/, so let's keep it that way, shall we?

Anyway, I've always really liked SA2, although I can't pinpoint the exact reason why. The closest thing I can think of is "charm." It's the same reason I like Dragon Warrior III so much.

I like how the Chao Garden and the main levels feed into each other: wanting to get your Chao to the next level of growth motivates you to learn the levels and complete them as efficiently and quickly as possible. Each level offers different animals to boost different kinds of growth, so if you want to raise all kinds of Chao, you have to learn all the levels. The Chao Garden also makes getting rings more meaningful than in later Sonic titles.

Anonymous Sat Apr 5 13:36:43 2014 No.1522750

3D Sonic, in my opinion:
>Generations
>Colors
>Unleashed day stages
>SA1

Everything else shouldn't even exist at this point, but for the sake of completing the list:

>Heroes
>Secret Rings
>Unleashed night stages
>Black Knight
>Lost World
>SA2
>Shadow
>Sonic 06

Anonymous Sat Apr 5 13:40:06 2014 No.1522758

>>1522723
>The Chao Garden also makes getting rings more meaningful than in later Sonic titles.
That was on the GC version. DC didn't had in-game Blackmarket, only online to get chao not obtainable in game that Sega would add from time to time, like new kart stuff, voice themes and 2player stuff. Still, I think you could use rings on Chao Adventure 2 but its been years so...

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 13:42:06 2014 No.1522763 >>1515468 >E-102's gameplay The Tails/Robotnik levels in SA2 were worse than the E-102 levels in SA1.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 13:54:06 2014 No.1522790 >>1522750 >Unleashed Why did you had to mention this? I still can't do the Eggmanland hotdog missions without dying because of that level being one of the hardest Sonic ever

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 14:28:36 2014 No.1522873 >>1522591 What a great response.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 14:50:40 2014 No.1522917 >>1522873 What a great complain.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 15:02:40 2014 No.1522935 >>1522917 Nice one!

Anonymous Sun Apr 6 06:45:52 2014 No.1524587
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>>1515468
Maybe I dont play enough current gen games cause I played SA2 for the first time recently and I thought that shit was gorgeous and legit fun and even addicting because of chao garden.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 6 06:46:52 2014 No.1524591 File: 24 KB, 300x300, 1273963380640.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1522343 >"This way!" WOOSH! Whoop-de-fucking-doo. >using hints for Knuckles stages Ultimate plebeian.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 6 09:10:35 2014 No.1524695 I'll give this thread one thing, it's legitimately the first time I've ever heard anyone on the internet or otherwise defend Big's terrible god forsaken fishing levels.

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>>1524695
>mfw at the time I enjoyed fishing as Big because it was the first time doing in a game specially 3d
It was hard fishing some fish but relaxing most of the times. Watching fish on water was nice too. But years later it was tedious and boring to me too.

Anonymous Sun Apr 6 10:39:07 2014 No.1524772

>>1514762
This.
>>1514765
That horrible game glitched on me with such alarming regularity that I can't fathom how it made it to store shelves.
>>1514824
>dark main plot with any degree of success
Define "success" because I thought the whole plotline was abysmal.
>music
I thought the character themes in SA2 were really bad compared to the ones in SA. Stage music was a mixed bag for both.
>>1514931
I felt Robotnik and Tails mechs were a lot more cumbersome than Gamma, and I hated their stages in SA2.
>>1514972
>less cringeworthy
>introduced Shadow
>ULTIMATE LIFEFORM
SA2's whole plot was made of cringe and predictable dumb shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 6 12:36:07 2014 No.1524925 >>1524695 Emerald Coast stage of big is the most chill playing experience I have ever had. You might not like diversity, and I agree Big's levels were hit and miss, but that level was fucking gorgeous and I could play it indefinitely.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 6 12:38:38 2014 No.1524929 >>1524772 This motherfucker knows what's up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 6 12:54:37 2014 No.1524974 >>1524925 I think it's a pretty big leap to assume I don't like diversity in games because I don't like bass fishing with a literal fat retard as my avatar.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 6 12:59:07 2014 No.1524981 >>1524974 It's also a big leap to call Big a literal retard. The fact you don't understand he's frog fishing ironically brings up your questionable level of intelligence in the matter.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 6 13:02:37 2014 No.1524987 >>1524974 Is Big not edgy enough?

Anonymous Sun Apr 6 13:08:41 2014 No.1525002

>>1524981
I used the term 'bass fishing' in reference to the game in which they borrowed the mechanic from pretty heavily.

>>1524987
Nice buzzword bro, yes clearly I need all my characters to be "edgy" if I don't love Big the Cat. The best of all of Sonic's shitty friends.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 6 13:11:11 2014 No.1525007 >>1525002 So calling him a literal retard is not a buzzword, but edgy is? Alright then. I apologize.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 6 13:13:41 2014 No.1525008 >>1525007 Is retard a buzzword? Sorry if I came off as a dick. It was unnecessarily harsh.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 6 13:21:12 2014 No.1525025 >>1525008 Any insult on 4chan is a buzzword. You should refrain from using them, especially on /vr/ which is a peaceful board.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 7 17:08:11 2014 No.1528171 >>1522407 It felt like it gave you freedom despite not actually being the case.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 7 17:21:11 2014 No.1528201 >>1524772 He didn't say SA2 wasn't cringe-worthy, just less cringe-worthy than SA1 which is true

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 7 17:24:11 2014 No.1528209 >>1528171 Exactly. SA1 took place in a world of some sort. Even it was small as fuck. SA2 was just a sequence of levels, you'd clear the character story just by pressing continue.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 7 17:27:42 2014 No.1528219 >>1524695 >>1524925 It just doesn't make since putting a mandatory fishing game in a franchise all about speed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 7 17:35:11 2014 No.1528236 >>1528219 So do you also discard Knuckles stages along with all the other characters who aren't Sonic?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 7 17:41:11 2014 No.1528246 >>1528236 At least the other games had speed as a factor >racing >time limit to take out target >chase except maybe the treasure hunting

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 7 17:51:11 2014 No.1528273 >>1528246 Well it seems then that this discussion is pointless, since we're arguing over taste and there's not much else to argue about.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 7 17:55:41 2014 No.1528286 >>1528273 The fact that those mini-games are speed based, fishing is not, and Sonic is a speed based franchise are kind of objective facts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 7 17:59:43 2014 No.1528297 >>1528286 Yes, but it's not an objective fact to say it's not a good or enjoyable game just because it has a fishing component.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 7 18:01:44 2014 No.1528304 >>1528297 It just doesn't make since putting a mandatory fishing game in a franchise all about speed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 7 18:02:13 2014 No.1528309 >>1528304 Goddamnit man.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 7 18:10:43 2014 No.1528342 >>1514716 >Sonic Adventure had the best gameplay physics/controls of any Sonic game. come now

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 7 18:30:13 2014 No.1528407 >>1514716 >The first Sonic Adventure had the best gameplay physics/controls of any Sonic game. LOL!

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 7 18:32:43 2014 No.1528410 >>1528342 >>1528407 If you actually read the thread a little you wouldn't have posted this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 12:34:34 2014 No.1530093 >that Amy hammer mini-game on SA1 Don't deny it. You like it.

Anonymous Tue Apr 8 12:51:35 2014 No.1530120
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Don't know if it was mentioned before but let me throw in my two cents.

Sonic Adventure 1 is the most playable game due to it's level design. It has some bigger areas to play around in, and while it's not like "a huge 3D environment" to explore, it gave the pretension that the level you were going through was bigger than you actually think it is, making it feel less on rails as a result.

Sonic Adventure 2, besides the TERRIBLE Master Emerald sequences, was nothing but a on rails experience from beginning to end, with various sized hallways.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 13:05:25 2014 No.1530146 Hey guys, what's better? Shit, or diarrhea? This is literally what this thread is, the sonic series is garbage and you guys are retarded for even arguing about this

Anonymous Tue Apr 8 13:27:36 2014 No.1530191
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I prefer Sonic Adventure 1 due to having better controls and levels to implement Sonic's speed.

Not Tool-Assisted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6B7oDBJ0lA

TAS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-CWu8JQ5Kk

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 13:28:07 2014 No.1530192 >>1530120 Shouldn't that guy be trying to convince me that Mac is better than PC rather than scoffing like that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 13:36:06 2014 No.1530213 >>1530120 Fucking this. Listen to this man.

Anonymous Tue Apr 8 13:51:36 2014 No.1530234

Sonic Adventure 1 + 2 have the best voice acting ever.
>"Oh no."
>"GET A LOAD OF PISS"
>"Huargh, he's not going to get away with this!"
>Well done Sonic, but you won't make it out of this room alive, HA HA!"
>"Faker? Ha! You're not even good enough to be m-I'LL MAKE YOU EAT THOSE WORDS"
And you've got to love Sonic randomly dashing off Egg Golem.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 13:59:36 2014 No.1530245 >>1530234 >Follow may >Set me fray >Trust me and we will escape from the citay >I'll make it froo froo me to yew >FOLLOW MAY

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 14:00:06 2014 No.1530248 File: 151 KB, 500x371, sonic lost.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1530234 I actually always liked the fact that characters sometimes don't let each other finish talking. It's kinda fitting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 14:00:06 2014 No.1530249 >>1530234 >all systems, FUUUULL POWeeer >nuow wai! I can't balieve disss! The Doc is always the best

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 14:07:16 2014 No.1530270 >>1530234 I forgot to add this video also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=demZZpIWMyA

Anonymous Tue Apr 8 14:14:46 2014 No.1530283

>>1514716
Apparently I live in bizarro world now.
I love sonic adventure 1 and i don't think it's got any massive gaping pacing issues, and i most certainly wouldn't rather gouge my eyes out than play it again.

Then again, the only ..bad.. parts of Sonic Adventure 2 were the sonic and shadow levels, and everything else was ..lovely. But at least then you didn't have something to look forward to, as opposed to knowing that every time you use one of those stupid loops you might just arbitrarily ..not.. clip through them or fall off for no apparent ..lack of.. reason.

SA1 was just the most perfect example of wonderful and not-at-all buggy level design and/or programming that I've ever had the profound joy of experiencing. Right below Sonic06 (which I ..didn't play.. at launch).

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 14:40:16 2014 No.1530332 >>1530234 The whole scene in Tails' story before Speed Highway is pretty creepy. Like a completely different tone.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 14:45:16 2014 No.1530343 >>1530283 Nice contribution bro.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 14:48:46 2014 No.1530349 >>1530234 >You know what they say, the more the merrier! >You know what they say, the more the merrier! >You know what they say, the more the merrier! >You know what they say, the more the merrier! >You know what they say, the more the merrier!

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 14:51:46 2014 No.1530354 >>1514824 I agree with you for the most part, but I thought SA1 controls were good enough, especially on the GameCube. I actually liked Shadow the Hedgehog

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 18:27:28 2014 No.1530741 File: 103 KB, 700x700, 1376528680789.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1530354 >I actually liked Shadow the Hedgehog Get out.

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