Final Fantasy VII

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Final Fantasy VII Anonymous Sun Mar 30 01:09:41 2014 No.1507056 [Reply] [Original]

Let's talk about the best final fantasy :3 I have never managed to get over my obsession with this title. Everything about it felt so great. Even after all these years I still enjoy playing it despite it losing the magical appeal it had when I was a child. I still seem to find something new no matter how small whenever I run through it again.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 01:14:40 2014 No.1507065 >>1507056 >":3"

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 01:21:40 2014 No.1507075

I never realized that the rocket at the church in the slums was the one Cid mentions being a test rocket. Took me a few times through to make the connection. Also at the library in Shinra mansion, a lot of the books are arranged so that they lean over to form 'VII'

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 01:38:46 2014 No.1507101

It represented a significant point in my life, becoming an independent successful adult simultaneous with video games feeling like the future was here.

In hindsight, it can be seen as the beginning of the inevitable downward slide of Final Fantasy games which, combined with the perceived qualities of the fanbase, can explain why a lot of purists hate it but damn was it ever glorious.

I'd really like to get a copy of that demo disc we had at Babbage's that just let you play up to Tifa's tavern, but had the Leviathan summon.

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 01:47:15 2014 No.1507117

>>1507101
Leviathan was so cool. I remember the demo you're speaking of I think. That and the disc that let you play through to the boss battle at the reactor, but the boss was just that random encounter enemy instead of the scorpion. Aeris was in your party too. Did anyone else have serious trouble beating the scorpion as a child due to the translation error about his tail attack? Took me a while but that made it even more rewarding when I beat it and the game opened up that much more. I definitely agree that post-7 titles marked a downslide in the quality of the series. I enjoyed 8, 9 and 10 but they just seemed to lack the same charm. 9 came the closest of any post-7 title IMO.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 01:48:15 2014 No.1507118 >>1507075 As someone who incessantly looks up trivia and tidbits about anything I even remotely like, I haven't heard either of these. Nice.

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 01:54:15 2014 No.1507127

>>1507118

FF7 is filled with things like this but I've had a little too much to drink to remember as much as I'd like. 7 is a constant theme throughout the game though. As a side note maybe I am remembering completely wrong but I believe if you tab out the notes to aeriths theme it's synonymous with Fibonacci sequence?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 02:07:15 2014 No.1507150 >>1507056 I don't care what others have to say about it. I liked it. Not really for the story or the characters. But for the locations and music. It had some of the best music and neatest areas of any Final Fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 02:20:45 2014 No.1507185 >>1507150 I kind of miss prerendered backgrounds because they were always so cool-looking like, it's easier to design a scene when you have a static camera angle

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 02:24:46 2014 No.1507196 >>1507185 And some of those pre-rendered scenes, especially like the Nibelheim reactor's gear room, still look amazing to this day.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 02:32:15 2014 No.1507217 It's been years but I still dont trust anyone who calls Aeris "Aerith"

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 02:36:45 2014 No.1507229 >>1507217 But Squeenix calls her "Aerith"... ohhhhh.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 02:43:15 2014 No.1507236 >>1507217 I don't call her aerith on any regular basis it's just easier when I'm on my phone to avoid an apostrophe and consecutive s. Atleast that was the case with that post. Idk man aeris' theme then.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 02:51:54 2014 No.1507243 >best FF >not 5

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 02:53:54 2014 No.1507245 >>1507243 5 and 2(jp) are my second favorites

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 02:55:24 2014 No.1507248 >>1507243 I love V. Some of that music is just so memorable, paired with the sheer amount of Jobs and it's refined system. Not to mention that the merged over world has to be one of the largest in the series.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 02:56:54 2014 No.1507251 File: 2.34 MB, 3264x2448, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I put this game on my arm

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 03:59:24 2014 No.1507343

>>1507117
Had friends that an issue with that boss, but it really wasn't a translation error if I recall it says something like 'attack while its tail is up' 'and it will counter attack'. Its just a poor space for a line break.

>>1507101
What part was the sliding downfall? It gets blamed for the FMV thing, but it really didn't have that many, MGS is more responsible for that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 04:24:56 2014 No.1507376 >>1507251 The idea is good, but you need to beat whoever stuck that sub-part tat art on your flesh with a fucking oar.

>>	\|\|D.\|\|.\|\|\/\|\|.\|\|D Sun Mar 30 07:40:14 2014 No.1507532 File: 8 KB, 158x232, Exdeath_4682.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1507243 my nigga

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 07:47:44 2014 No.1507541 File: 385 KB, 359x622, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1507251 Me too, though not my arm.

>>	\|\|D.\|\|.\|\|\/\|\|.\|\|D Sun Mar 30 07:50:44 2014 No.1507542 >>1507541 >>1507251 I don't want to sound like a normalfag but I genuinely can't comprehend the idea of getting a Final Fantasy tattoo

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 08:08:44 2014 No.1507558

>>1507542
I question some of the character sprites, and full logos, etc. that fanatics get, but basic designs from something long-cherished are alright in my book.
They're leaps above the random dolphins, butterflies, stars, and other shit that some normalfags get on whims.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 08:31:44 2014 No.1507567 >>1507185 >>1507196 >tfw the inevitable ff7 remake will have full 3d backgrounds and ff13's art style

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 08:47:44 2014 No.1507569

>>1507567

I think 3d design has moved forward enough that beautiful scenes in 3d are not impossible to accomplish.

I still cringe at early attempts, though, such as downgrade from 2d infinity engine in Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale to hideous Neverwinter Nights one. Or beautiful scenes and characters of Quest for Glory 4 and the caricature of them that was Quest for Glory 5.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 08:48:14 2014 No.1507571 >babby's first ff

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 09:04:17 2014 No.1507584 >>1507571 it's on sale on Steam. Nevertheless, it's pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 11:33:48 2014 No.1507745 >>1507065 is a perfectly acceptable emoticon or whatever they are called >>1507584 I just bought it on Steam myself. Still haven't opened it up (I've played the game before on PS1, never finished it).

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 11:57:52 2014 No.1507782 >>1507745 >emoticon >4chinz Pls go

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 12:26:48 2014 No.1507823

>>1507343
>What part was the sliding downfall
Yeah FMV was a part of it. That whole cinema when you first leave Midgar that's so long you actually get given an option to save in the middle of it was pretty tiring, even then when it was also mindblowing. Also, in general it showed Square that graphical gimmickry sells games.

Now, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with VII though. 5-6-7 are the peak of the series for sure. 7 was the groundbreaker that unfortunately broke the ground to simplified mechanics and just generally broadened appeal.

Just look at the difference in sales between 2D and 3D Final Fantasies. I can personally testify that the same non-gamers who were not remotely interested in watching FF6/3US when I played it at release were enchanted by FF7 and Square realized that. Likewise, there was a certain point in my explanation of the materia system in which my casual friends eyes glazed over and sure enough that's where they drew the line on the complexity of later Final Fantasies all the way up to 11/12.

I mean, look what a total piece of shit Final Fantasy 8 is and why. It was trying to do MORE of everything that made 7 appeal to normal gamers and LESS of everything that made it appeal to RPG gamers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 12:35:48 2014 No.1507838 >>1507101 >It represented a significant point in my life, becoming an independent successful adult simultaneous with video games feeling like the future was here. This. I bought my PSX and FFVII with the very first check of my very first job.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 12:51:48 2014 No.1507858 >buy on steam just before the sale >brother completes it before me >don't want to play it now

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 12:54:48 2014 No.1507862 >>1507823 >That whole cinema when you first leave Midgar that's so long you actually get given an option to save in the middle of it was pretty tiring, even then when it was also mindblowing. What?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 12:55:18 2014 No.1507863 >>1507862 I think he means the story in Kalm.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 13:20:18 2014 No.1507891 >>1507065 >using double quotes within greentext out

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 13:25:18 2014 No.1507896

>>1507823
>Yeah FMV was a part of it. That whole cinema when you first leave Midgar that's so long you actually get given an option to save in the middle of it was pretty tiring, even then when it was also mindblowing. Also, in general it showed Square that graphical gimmickry sells games.

I think it might have been awhile since you've played. The only slightly long FMVs are basically the opening establishing shot, the ending, and climax in the middle of the game when it all goes to hell.

The part that lets you save in the middle was Cloud retelling the events of the past in Kalm, which was a gameplay segment. The only video part of that is about a 5 second panning shot of the mountain.

8 was the one that tried pushing and selling on graphics and love story and 10 was the one that removed everything FF about it. 8 pretty well did nothing like 7 did right. 7 had minimal FMVs, in the entire game they only totall a couple of minutes, 8 added way more and way longer. 7 had a side love story with a plot focused on building up the enemy as a badass, bit of a generic badass but at least built up. 8 focused on the love story and pulled things out of its ass for the rest. 7 dumps you in the action fast, 8 has you fuck around school for awhile.

The one that got me is 7 was minimal on random fights usually giving you crazy fun mini-games, not just the motorcycle fights, but almost every floor in the midgar tower is some little non-combat mini-game puzzle. 8 loved its summon system so much those were gone aside from one card game...playing them back to back I was really bummed there was no hover board segment after Zell was riding one.

But yea the average FMV length in 7 is only about 25 seconds with a range of about 4 seconds to 1 minute 20. I found my memories muddied by all the shit it gets online about that stuff, until I went back and played it after so many years. It basically has none of the negative tropes aimed at JRPGs today, but is labeled the source.

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 13:30:18 2014 No.1507904

>>1507896
I don't think he literally meant it was a cinema, just a long segment of exposition. Even when I was going through it the first time, I was wondering when it would end since it felt like it kept going forever, even after it got its point across.

As for the minigames, I think that's a true tragedy of our time. I remember FFVII and to a lesser extent FFVI having tons of parts that wasn't just straight dungeon crawling, or at least tried to jazz it up some.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 13:31:19 2014 No.1507908 >>1507896 he mispoke you asperbergerite. the thing in kalm was a lot like a cut scene, even if wasn't fmv

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 13:41:18 2014 No.1507923 >>1507229 No one trusts S-E.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 13:49:18 2014 No.1507931 >>1507229 The names are also Claude and Bullet.

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 13:56:18 2014 No.1507942

>>1507896
>8 loved its summon system so much those were gone aside from one card game...
Did we even play the same game? So many dungeons in FF8 had weird quirky puzzles exactly like Midgar tower. The Galbadian military base, getting out of dollet, the train mission... hell, I'm having trouble thinking of a dungeon or a mission that ISN'T some kind of puzzle.

Besides that, the card game is a completely different kind of thing. It's more of a minigame than a dungeon puzzle, so I don't know why you bring it up in relation to Midgar tower.

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 13:56:49 2014 No.1507943
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>>1507908
I hated that part, the battles were literally pointless other than to show that Sephiroth was exceptionally powerful, and he already proved that when he took down the dragon in two shots. There was pretty much no reason for Cloud to be controlled after leaving Nibelheim.

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 13:58:18 2014 No.1507949

>>1507904
It was exposition yes, but you got to fight and explore during it.

I mark a distinction because that is the exact reason I can't replay 8 or some later FFs because the exposition is just standing there while they talk. I even like 8 and can't replay it because it will hit a point like that were there is nothing to do. 8 and then 10s inspiration off of it were the great changers of the series, though 9 there to show going to typical doesn't always work out to push the later changes harder.

It was the following year where we got the long codec chats and that would have already been close to finished.

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 13:58:48 2014 No.1507948

>>1507896

Eh, I enjoyed the 8 and its characters, although some plot points really were bullshit

like going off into space without any idea and just so happening to stumble across Ragnarok

What irked me most was that characters were completely useless without having the summons set up and the magic system was a chore of itself.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 14:00:18 2014 No.1507953 >>1507948 Not equipping summons on characters is like not equipping jobs in FF5. It's really not much of an inconvenience, a lot of people just don't know that you can swap junction builds between party members at will.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 14:02:18 2014 No.1507957 >hurr durr, shinra is trying to take out the meteor with huge materia, we don't have a plan to stop the meteor, but we'll steal the huge materia from shinra anyway, we be heroes yo! fucking niggers

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 14:05:48 2014 No.1507960 >>1507949 >I can't replay 8 or some later FFs because the exposition is just standing there while they talk Funny, that's why I avoid 6.

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 14:06:48 2014 No.1507963

>>1507957

I kinda felt the same way, but consider that Shinra's plan was really retarded considering the Meteor was a magical summon rather than physical phenomenon that could be simply blown apart, sending more materia into it might have just made matters worse. Also consider that loss of Materia had profound impact on planet's...uh... metaphysical balance or whatnot.

tl;dr heroes are justified in doing whatever they want.

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 14:07:18 2014 No.1507964

>>1507957
I think FF7 would have been a better game overall if the focus had stayed on being a ragtag group of ecoterrorists with Shinra as the main enemy. It's funny that you bring up that plot hole, because I think it's indicative of how they failed to tie together the plot threads of Shinra and Sephiroth.

Overall I never really felt like Sephiroth's storyline was particularly compelling, so I think I'd rather drop that one in favor of more Shinra shenanigans.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 14:08:18 2014 No.1507967 >>1507217 The original translation of the game had her as "Aerith." If you look at early reviews of the game, you'll see this, among other things, such as Utai/Wutai.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 14:12:18 2014 No.1507973 You know what bugs me more than 'Aerith'? Chocobos were way better when they said 'wark.' ''Kweh' is gay as all fuck. idgaf what they say in Japan.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 14:18:18 2014 No.1507982 >>1507964 It's not a plot hole.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 14:21:48 2014 No.1507987 >>1507982 Sure it is. If character behavior isn't adequately explained and appears to be irrational, that's often considered a plothole.

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 14:22:18 2014 No.1507989

>>1507896
>8 was the one that tried pushing and selling on graphics and love story and 10 was the one that removed everything FF about it. 8 pretty well did nothing like 7 did right. 7 had minimal FMVs, in the entire game they only totall a couple of minutes, 8 added way more and way longer
Yeah that's what I'm saying. They kept a priority on depth in their system because that's what sold 5 and 6, although 6 was already starting to bring the story up to the forefront. In 7, we still had great mechanics and all that dramatic camera angle storytelling felt like a bonus, plus the romantic element was kind of interesting and that all came together to make for an awesome, awesome game.

But then once Square did their market research or whatever and realized that they were gaining more new players with that stuff than alienating their old core players that was the beginning of the end.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 14:24:18 2014 No.1507994 >>1507987 How is taking huge materia back to planet irrational course of action for group that were originally ecoterrorists?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 14:25:48 2014 No.1507997 >>1507989 I think it was a much more gradual process than that. A lot of people in Japan would cite FF4 as being the moment when Square realized that cinematics sell, and Final Fantasy went in a different direction.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 14:27:18 2014 No.1508001 >>1507987 Except it's perfectly explained. You just didn't pay attention. Cloud outright says why Shinra using the Huge Materia for that purpose is a dumb idea.

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 14:27:19 2014 No.1508002

>>1507994
Because it doesn't make sense in the context of Meteor and Sephiroth. Which is the point I was making originally. Their behavior would be perfectly reasonable if the focus was on Shinra, but at that point in the game the clear threat is Sephiroth, and the two different antagonists weren't written together very well.

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 14:27:19 2014 No.1508003

>>1507997
I think that was more a matter of really driving home the platform change, which is what 7 was as well but with the 3D revolution came a much broader appeal that wasn't necessarily a good thing for the game itself.

I don't think 4-5-6 sold any better than 1-2-3 in Japan did they?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 14:38:18 2014 No.1508018 >>1508003 Well, going by Wikipedia, FF4 didn't sell much more than FF3, but FF5 and FF6 sold about twice as much. That's all the Super Famicom version, I think.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 14:42:48 2014 No.1508025 >>1508002 The overarching plot is protection of the planet, first from Shinra, then from Sephiroth. But since Shinra decided to do something stupid, the party got sidetracked into stopping them along the way.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 14:43:48 2014 No.1508027 >>1507943 It was interesting the first time but it qualifies as "that part" when I replay the game.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 14:45:48 2014 No.1508028 >>1507973 >Kweh The moment when you walk up to a Chocobo in FF8 and it says 'Kweh." is like the moment when Final Fantasy dies.

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 14:47:48 2014 No.1508031

>>1507964
failed to tie what together? Shinra is the entity that created sephiroth to try and control the whole planet and kept trying even though it kept back firing and leading to the possible complete destruction of the planet. your party has to clean up the pieces of both villains, sephiroth and shinra.

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 14:52:18 2014 No.1508037

>>1508031
I understand that but after Meteor occurs, Shinra wants the same outcome that you do: to prevent Meteor from falling. So not only does ignoring Sephiroth to hassle Shinra kill the pace of the game, it doesn't make a lot of sense when the heroes don't have total confidence that they can stop Sephiroth and Meteor by themselves, when they don't even have a plan.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 15:01:19 2014 No.1508052 >>1508037 >they don't even have a plan But they do. They want to take care of the problem at its source. There's no point in destroying Meteor at the cost of horrendous damage to the planet when Sephiroth could cast the spell again.

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 15:08:48 2014 No.1508067

>>1508052
Destroying Sephiroth won't destroy Meteor though. The planet would be wrecked if the lifestream didn't jump in to save the day with literal magic... which, incidentally, happens regardless of whether you get the Huge Materia or not, but nobody was counting on it to actually save them since Sephiroth's whole plan hinged on the lifestream reacting in the exact way that it did.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 15:09:18 2014 No.1508069 >>1508028 >the moment when Final Fantasy died That would be the day they announced FF11 would be an MMO. At least for me, anyway. Haven't played a new FF RPG since then.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 15:12:48 2014 No.1508076 >>1508069 for me it was when my first real look at FF9 was a coca-cola commercial of all things

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 15:13:18 2014 No.1508079 This is /vr/, so I'm gonna get slaughtered for saying this, but my favorite FF is [spoilers]X[/spoilers] To be fair, I haven't played 6 or 9, which are the ones you hipsters like most.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 15:15:18 2014 No.1508086 >>1508067 As a matter of fact it does. Sephiroth was the one summoning it, and was the one keeping Aeris(th) from unsummoning it. That big cannon was kind of badass though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 15:15:48 2014 No.1508084 >>1508079 I like 10 a lot. Honestly I think it's some of Squaresoft's best work, even though it breaks a lot of conventions in the franchise. My favorite FFs are 4, 6, 8, and 10

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 15:15:48 2014 No.1508085

>>1508037
They hassle Shinra because they want the huge materia and they know shinra's rocket plan won't work.

The only thing weird is that the huge matera missions are big chunks of the game revolving around missables, but that's just kind of a cool shake up to a jrpg in my book.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 30 15:17:18 2014 No.1508089 >>1508079 Slaughtered for what? The only thing wrong with FFX as far as this board goes is that it's not /vr/. It's a legit RPG otherwise. Really legit. Does a lot of things good. V is still the king for me gameplay wise. And VI is the king of story.

Anonymous Sun Mar 30 15:21:18 2014 No.1508096

>>1508086
Well I'm not clear on what happens to the Meteor after the lifestream gets all intimate with it, I just assumed it made impact anyway but the lifestream stopped it from causing too much damage. Regardless the characters didn't know that shit was going to happen and more importantly neither did I.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 13:59:40 2014 No.1510453 >>1507838 ARE YOU ME?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 18:06:37 2014 No.1510846 File: 20 KB, 407x286, 1394268120580.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Meh, the only thing i hate of this game was that lame ending.

Anonymous Mon Mar 31 18:25:33 2014 No.1510895

FF7 was my first FF but I never really got Cloud. He was acting way too emo and sullen for me which I usually don't have a problem with. It just seemed like he was that way because it was decided he was going to be that way and it came off as Cloud trying too hard.
I liked FF8 more. I know Squall is a similar type of character but since you get to read his thoughts his way of behaving makes a lot more sense.

I like FF7 and it will always have special place in my mind, but it's far from my favorite of the bunch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 18:33:35 2014 No.1510913 >>1510895 >Cloud was trying too hard yes he was, that was his entire shtick. But, gotta hand it to him, eventually he succeeded. I liked the omnislash at the end. It was very rewarding.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 18:35:05 2014 No.1510921 >>1510913 Yeah but it never felt like there was enough reason for him to be like that. However, if we got to hear some of his thoughts a bit more like in FF8 I think I would have enjoyed Cloud as a character a lot more.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 18:38:36 2014 No.1510930 >>1510895 >He was acting way too emo and sullen for me You've clearly misremembered the game because Cloud isn't like that at all until Tactics and Advent Children.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 18:43:35 2014 No.1510949 >>1507967 I dont give a fuck The game I played said Aeris. The game we all played said Aeris. So fuck you

Anonymous Mon Mar 31 18:45:37 2014 No.1510952

>>1510930
Well he definately got worse. It's not that long since I replayed FF7 but maybe my view has been tainted by how he's been acting in newer games.
Still though, I don't feel like there was much reason for him to act like an ass. Using FF8 again as an example, Squall is a jerk but then you read his thoughts and you realise he do care about people, he cares too much and is afraid of loss which is why he acts that way. But with Cloud he is just a moody tough guy for ???? reasons.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 18:50:05 2014 No.1510972 >>1510895 >I dont like 7 because Cloud is to Emo >Likes 8 HAHAHAHA what a fucking retard

Anonymous Mon Mar 31 18:53:35 2014 No.1510980
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So I have FF7 on the PS3 and was wondering if you guys can let me in on some beginner tips and hints? Is stealing worth it in this game, and what materia to specialize in, etc.

All feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks /vr/.

Anonymous Mon Mar 31 18:55:06 2014 No.1510990

>>1510972
>I like FF7 and it will always have special place in my mind, but it's far from my favorite of the bunch.
>I like FF7 and it will always have special place in my mind
>I like FF7
>I like

Yes clearly I hate FF7 because Cloud is too emo.
Not having FF7 as my favorite FF game doesn't mean I don't like it. Prefereing how a similar character is portrayed in another game doesn't make me hate it either.

FF7 fanbois are the worst.

Anonymous Mon Mar 31 18:55:35 2014 No.1510987

>>1510952

Cloud has many reason to act like a dick. The main being half his memories and personality arent his own.

While Squall has abandonment issues for being abandoned by people he doesn't even remember because of GF'slol giving him no reason to have those issues because he doesn't remember.

Anonymous Mon Mar 31 18:58:05 2014 No.1510993

>>1510980

Stealing is very worth it. Even normal enemies have good weapons and armor that you cant get until much later. I think the best example I can think of is stealing the hardedge sword from a Soldier in Shinra tower. Much better than the sword you have and any you can buy for awhile

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 18:59:35 2014 No.1510994 >>1510990 Cloud isn't emo though whatever whatever what. I'll be over here doing squats with a cross dresser

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:00:05 2014 No.1510998 >>1510990 It is strange how Cloud being emo bothers you will Squall gets a pass. His thoughts are the most emo part of him

Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:01:35 2014 No.1511007

>>1510987
Sure he has reasons but to me his reasons wasn't very well portrayed and so he comes off as a somewhat shallow character acting that way because he was decided to act that way by the designers. I just feel like his character could have been handled a lot better and I think they did well with that in FF8. I'm sure the quiet, serious persona isn't the easiest to write and I don't think they did that good of a job with Cloud.

Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:03:05 2014 No.1511014

>>1511007

>Sure he has reasons but to me his reasons wasn't very well portrayed

They show you why Cloud is the way he is with the extra Zack scene. I dissagree entirely ith you view. Squalls reasoning was handled badly because he has no memory of why he has these issues

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:03:35 2014 No.1511008 >>1507248 Then I'd think you'll love III. It has some decent jobs (excluding the god awful Scholar class) and a beautiful OST. My favourite track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoywZe7NNtg

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:04:36 2014 No.1511015 >>1510998 Nothing wrong with a character being emo if I can understand why they are being that way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:07:35 2014 No.1511024 >>1511014 >They show you why Cloud is the way he is with the extra Zack scene. No they don't.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:12:35 2014 No.1511041 >>1511024 Yes, they do.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:14:35 2014 No.1511043 >>1511041 No, you completely misinterpreted it or haven't played the game in years. Either way, you're wrong.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:16:06 2014 No.1511047 >>1511014 So people with amnesia lose their emotions? I'm not sure that's quite how it works, after all people with amnesia don't forget how to speak or count. The GF amnesia thing was a terrible plot sealant anyway.

Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:16:06 2014 No.1511048

>>1511014
I guess what I'm trying to say that I liked with FF8 inner monologue was that I could follow Squall's thought process and why he reacted that way. I'll admit that I like Squall, but even if I didn't, I like the idea of getting into the head of the hero. I would like to hear their thoughts on things a lot more often in all of the FF games, not only FF7.
However, since Cloud is such a quiet guy it's not easy to guess his thoughts from the few words he says, unlike Zidane for example. Zidane is very open with his dialogue.
In FF7, even if we get shown Cloud's past and so on, we never really get to know his thoughts that well on all that.
And it's not only for the serious things that I like it, but reading Squall thoughts you realize he has a sense of humor and have thoughts about his friends and characters he meets. It builds character. With Cloud we only get to see the mask he puts on for everyone, so he feels less personal.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:17:06 2014 No.1511049 File: 1.58 MB, 250x220, 1396086948997.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You samefags really killed this thread because of your pathetic disagreements.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:18:05 2014 No.1511056 >>1511049 Oh no people are discussing on a discussion board. Boo hoo

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:20:06 2014 No.1511064 File: 80 KB, 399x500, 1379312404440.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1511056 It's just you and two others m8. Are you the butthurt faggot that's getting his panties in a twist?

Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:22:35 2014 No.1511067

>>1511048

I prefer Zidane. He has a happy go lucky attitude but doesn't use it as mask, that is who he is even with everything that happened to him. The only point he almot cracked was at the full realisation of what he was created for but he gets over that when he remembers who he is with the help of his friends.

I think i'm over the brooding protag, whatever theres reasons are.

Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:23:05 2014 No.1511075

>>1511064
You shouldn't assume people are butthurting just because they are disagreeing. Even if it is just me and one other guy I think it's interesing to discuss this game. I like to hear their arguements because guess what? They might make me think of this in a different way and that's not bad. Not everyone is hear to scream the loudest and ignore the rest, some people actually like talking to others about these games, even if they don't agree.

So I don't care if it is me, one other guy and of course you whining in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:23:35 2014 No.1511073 >>1511064 Four people active in a /vr/ thread is pretty much a full house

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:26:35 2014 No.1511082 File: 179 KB, 800x600, Squall 2.0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1511067 Zidane is pretty insufferable.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:26:35 2014 No.1511084 >>1511073 That guy who really like Zelda 2, that guy who really like FF8, you and that guy who really like DOOM

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:27:06 2014 No.1511091 File: 2.91 MB, 446x251, happiness.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1511064 Well what kind of thread do you propose to have?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:27:06 2014 No.1511092 >>1511082 oh you!

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:28:05 2014 No.1511094 >>1511075 Who said I'm whining m8, just pointing out the obvious.

Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:32:06 2014 No.1511108

>>1511067
Yeah exactly! When Zidane says something you know he means because he talks a lot and you already know his character well from the stuff he says and way he acts. He is such and open and carefree guy and isn't afraid to speak his mind.
When Squall says "whatever" to a response you will still know what he really means because you can read his thoughts. So it builds his character and you get to know his real personality.
When Cloud says "I don't care" then that's it. Does he really mean it? Why doesn't he care? Is he just saying it to act tough, or is he really just such a cold person? Is he a robot????

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:33:05 2014 No.1511112 >>1511094 I'm not sure pointing out the obvious makes this thread any better, friend!

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:34:36 2014 No.1511115 >>1511092 I'm being serious. He's a very immature character and ultimately drags the plot down.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:35:06 2014 No.1511118 >>1511108 Zidane comes as a full person Squall is revealed over time And Clouds attitudes are told retroactivly with the revalation with Tifa in the life stream

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:37:36 2014 No.1511124 >>1511115 He was 16. I wouldn't call it immaturity sinc he constantly makes hard decisions. He just doesn't whine about it

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:38:06 2014 No.1511126 >>1511118 This is a good way of putting it and personally I don't think it worked so well with Cloud. Maybe it is a personal preference thing or maybe it's something I misunderstood, but it's why I don't think Cloud is that good a character.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:39:06 2014 No.1511128 >>1511112 It's pretty much on a plateau.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:39:35 2014 No.1511129 >>1511124 I don't care how old he is. If a character acts like an immature braggart, I'm not going to like him.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:43:35 2014 No.1511140 >>1511129 What did he do that was immature? Grab Garnets ass that one time?

Anonymous Mon Mar 31 19:50:06 2014 No.1511154

>>1511140
Constantly hit on every woman he saw, made lots of silly and unrealistic promises in hopes of getting laid, and tries (and fails) to act console several party members over the course of the game.

It's pretty hilarious that one of his dialog options is "durr i wunder whut dagger's up to" during a very serious moment.

Anonymous Mon Mar 31 20:10:05 2014 No.1511196

>>1511154

but he actually falls for her over the course of the game, which was the point.

liking characters isn't relevant. showing him change over the game was the point. and his flaws were exposed. character development was the point. Which is why FF9 was good.

games don't do character development anymore.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 20:13:05 2014 No.1511204 Was Squall autistic?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 20:14:35 2014 No.1511205 >>1511196 >but it's ok he was an obnoxious ass! >he was SUPPOSED to be one! >that's why it's great! Unlikeable idiot is unlikeable idiot. Not even him, by the way, since I never got past first disc.

Anonymous Mon Mar 31 20:14:35 2014 No.1511206

>>1511048

I for one have no clear preference between Squall and Cloud, I like them both.

One of the ideas of having a silent hero is that player can completely identify himself with him and fill in his place in the story by his own imagination.

I imagine that doesn't work quite this way in FFVII for instance because the backstory, while revealed over the course of game, is quite extensive and Clouds' place in the plot is pretty much a given. From that point of view I agree that Squall has been handled better.

In fact, the entire concept of the game as a story being told does not really lend itself to gordon freeman silent guy with a wrench approach.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 20:16:07 2014 No.1511212 >>1511204 I don't think so. Maybe a bit sociopathic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 31 20:24:36 2014 No.1511237 File: 81 KB, 675x1024, 1312643579768.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1511015 >cannot understand a character's motivations without them being spelled out for him

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 1 16:40:48 2014 No.1513187 >>1511204 no, but im willing to bet he had some schizoid personality traitss

Anonymous Tue Apr 1 19:30:42 2014 No.1513626

>>1513187

He was final fantasy and wish fulfillment of any neckbeard.

>introverted, brooding
>(considers himself) capable of handling himself
>little social interactions
>gets literally drafted into an epic adventure
>gets literally thrown into a relationship with a cute girl regardless of his own intentions
>gets unquestioning support of friends he did not even try to make
>is put in charge of a floating fortress regardless of his rank within the organization
>finds a personal spaceship just by jumping into space
>turns out to be son of president of the most advanced country in the setting

[.....]

That must be why I enjoyed the game so much.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 1 19:40:41 2014 No.1513665 >>1513626 Wow could Squall BE any more different from Cloud?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 1 19:49:11 2014 No.1513702 >>1507056 >Let's talk about the best final fantasy How come no one is talking about VIII then?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 1 19:49:41 2014 No.1513698 >>1513626 man I fuckin liked squall though like he was clearly a self-obsessed dickwad but he could be pretty fuckin sassy at times

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 1 19:58:11 2014 No.1513729 >>1513702 Because VIII isn't X

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 1 20:05:12 2014 No.1513748 >best FF game >only mention of FFT is in reference to Cloud being a pansy in it FFT. FFT is best FF.

Anonymous Tue Apr 1 20:10:11 2014 No.1513758

>>1513748
FFT is great but it's not FF any more than Crystal Chronicles is. If you like SRPGs better than JRPGs of course you'll think FFT is better than any real FF.

>>1513702
>>1513729
Also these are just dumb. First and foremost we ARE talking about VIII so these guys obviously haven't read. Second, the only FFs worth arguing about which is best are 5-6-7 everything before those was just a lead up everything after was a let down.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 03:49:27 2014 No.1514528 >>1513698 He was not really self-obsessed though. I get the impression he was always trying to do his best even if he did not expect that anyone would to the same in return.

Anonymous Wed Apr 2 13:16:02 2014 No.1515137
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FF7 was the first RPG I had ever played, it was a brand new experience and actually made me care about the characters, how Aeris died, Sephiroths history, the whole Cloud/Zack thing.

It really was a turning point for me in gaming it was an experience that I'll never forget and love to replay it again and again(but disc 2 doesnt work anymore) I dont think I've played anything since that has changed my view on gaming characters and story, since I was 13/14 at the time it was a damn big change for me.

I enjoyed FF8 not so much 9, I couldnt engage with the characters, 10 did it for me again and I was engrossed in the voice acting and character development.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 17:17:35 2014 No.1515630 >>1507075 Holy shit never made that connection.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 17:19:48 2014 No.1515634 >>1513758 >WAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!!!!!!! FFT isn't FF b/c I said so!!! FFT is best FF. Deal w/it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 20:47:09 2014 No.1516124 >>1507567 >full 3d backgrounds fine. why not >FFXIII's art style I will fucking murder Nomura

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 20:54:08 2014 No.1516145 >>1510994 >>1510994 >I'll be over here doing squats with a cross dresser That part didn't fully hit home until I was older. that and the fact that cloud gets buttfucked in the honeybee manor.

Anonymous Wed Apr 2 21:16:12 2014 No.1516189

>>1511014
>>1510987
>>1511067
>>1511047
Every classic FF from FFII onward has had memory loss/amnesia as a major plot point, the most hackneyed bullshit device in writing.
FFII: Guy.
FFIII: The entire main cast in the remake
FFIV: Cecil.
FFV: Galuf.
FFVI: Terra.
FFVII: Cloud.
FFVIII: the majority of the main cast.
FFIX: Zidane.

I've come to expect this bullshit in FF games but don't know if this tradition has continued into the newer games as I've not played a single one of them.
This is also one of the reasons I prefer FFT's story above and beyond that of any other FF game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 21:20:12 2014 No.1516194 >>1516189 >FFII: Guy Derp. It was Leon, actually. Muh mistake.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 21:44:12 2014 No.1516240 >>1507973 When they first used voices in X, I was disgusted that chocobo had three long "o"s in its pronunciation. It looks like chocolate, so should be pronounced chock-oh-boh.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 21:54:42 2014 No.1516262 >>1516240 I pronounced it like "ch'koh-boh," stress on the 'koh.' Chou-kou-bou or choh-koh-boh make more sense cuz Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 21:59:42 2014 No.1516275 >>1507056 http://www.livestream.com/binaryghosts FFX stream

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 22:29:41 2014 No.1516368 File: 246 KB, 2013x1290, 1389463659065.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1507056 Its my favorite game also. It really does become EZMode though once you get the W-Item Materia

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 23:19:03 2014 No.1516482 FUCK YOU SPEED SQUARE COASTER FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 2 23:22:03 2014 No.1516491 >>1516189 >FFIV: Cecil. I think you mean Yang. You're wrong about FFIX though.

Anonymous Wed Apr 2 23:57:55 2014 No.1516559

I loved the aloof, warm feeling that the music brought to a lot of the prerendered 32-bit environments. Also, the story was great, and had a lot of aspects that drew it to that. On the flip side, the dark "ruined future" aspects balanced it out well too.

It's hip to not like this game, but when I played it as a teenager it was one of the best gaming experiences I'd ever had.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 00:11:01 2014 No.1516583 >>1513702 Because it's horrible?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 00:12:10 2014 No.1516585 >>1507056 Meh. It's an acceptably enjoyable game but it's the real origin of everything that eventually destroyed the series.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 00:19:06 2014 No.1516598 Cho-ko-bo The gayest shit ever was in Dirge of Cerberus when Mako was pronounced as "Mocko"

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 00:21:06 2014 No.1516603 File: 999 KB, 500x339, feelsquall.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1510998 >Squall >emo The most human character by a long shot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 00:21:37 2014 No.1516606 >>1516598 That's actually pretty much the proper Japanese pronunciation, chief.

Anonymous Thu Apr 3 00:22:36 2014 No.1516608

I know this is cliche but this game was truly transcendent and was the first RPG that i've ever played. I tried playing classic rpgs such as chrono trigger or final fantasy 6 before this but either i didn't have the attention span or the appreciation to enjoy role-playing games until i saw the power of story that final fantasy 7 was able to bring. Keep in mind i was barely 12 at the time and even still i was immersed in the story.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 00:22:36 2014 No.1516609 >>1516603 If you find that human and identifiable, your chances of ever seeing an actual vagina are fairly low.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 00:23:06 2014 No.1516614 >>1516608 >this game was truly transcendent Ugh I'm glad you liked it though, anon. Really. I don't begrudge people a good time, no matter how alien their definition of what that is may seem to me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 00:23:36 2014 No.1516613 yea if your fucking emo

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 00:24:36 2014 No.1516615 >>1516609 I don't know why you're conflating "recognizes humanity" with "identifies with"

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 00:25:06 2014 No.1516617 >>1516615 Not conflating those two would require me to assume that the anon isn't a human. Which again, if you find Squall to be a good example of one that wouldn't shock me, but still.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 00:27:36 2014 No.1516619 >>1516617 >Not conflating those two would require me to assume that the anon isn't a human. wat Are you trying to say that recognizing something as human means you identify with it? Because that's way off.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 00:29:36 2014 No.1516628 >>1516619 Your ability to recongize what qualifies as 'human' doesn't come from your experience of being one?

Anonymous Thu Apr 3 00:31:06 2014 No.1516635

>>1516628
Christ, are you a shut-in or something?

Because there are lots of people out there in the world, and being able to recognize the traits some of them have does not mean you like them, agree with them, or even identify with them. But much of this can be observed from...well, you know, observing people.

I'd venture to say that if you can't recognize human traits that don't belong to you, you have issues.

Anonymous Thu Apr 3 00:38:06 2014 No.1516640

>>1516609

Squall is a rare example of a jrpg hero that acts according to his age. He gets a lot of shit on his shoulders all of a sudden despite being a rookie trained soldier with little experience on the outside world and dealing with people, and isn't all happy go lucky believe it harem anime hero about it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 00:53:06 2014 No.1516662 >>1510846 >lame ending. I hated the ending too. Green tentacles sprouting from the ground to stop the meteor was stupid. It looked so much like scene from a Disney movie.The game was okay, but the ending ruined it.

Anonymous Thu Apr 3 00:56:06 2014 No.1516669

>>1516662
That's not even what sucked. What sucks is the complete lack of closure. All we know is that meteor is stopped and Cloud defeats Sephiroth for good. Does humanity survive? Does Holy kill everyone? Who the fuck knows, all we get is a scene of Red and a kid (how?) by the ruins of Midgar (so everyone died?) Fuck that ending. Pissed me the fuck off.

But yeah, the cutscene before that is terrible too. Reminds me of an awful action movie like Armageddon or something. Even has goofy ass musical queues like an action movie.

The whole everything that happens after you beat Bishie Sephiroth put a horrible taste in my mouth that nearly counter acted the previous excellence of the game.

Anonymous Thu Apr 3 03:19:33 2014 No.1516887

>>1516669

I'm inclined to agree this is a bit annoying, but to be honest I'm used to it. Only a few games, movies or stories offer "closure" for various characters in form of deticated epilogue pages.

Baldur's gate 2 comes to mind as a good example of doing it, but other than that, I'm not sure.

Anyhow, the various followup games show that most everyone survived all right, just Midgar got fucked up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 03:43:32 2014 No.1516928 >>1516669 >>1516887 Not every story needs closure, you know

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 03:44:02 2014 No.1516929 >>1516928 A stupid anime story about a guy with a giant sword fighting another guy with a giant sword and a trenchcoat needs to tell you what fucking happens at the end.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 03:46:02 2014 No.1516932 >>1516929 I agree with this. The game is massively overrated but it's still pretty fun to play. The ending is tryhard pretentious bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 03:48:02 2014 No.1516935 >>1516669 I really like the ending. The game is such an epic journey, it implies closure to the defeat of Sephiroth, but also suggests that the story is ongoing and continues on beyond the observation of the player.

Anonymous Thu Apr 3 03:50:02 2014 No.1516939

>>1516932
I don't even think its that overrated. Not these days. Its just an awful ending. I'm not doing to sit down and ponder the human condition after playing a damn final fantasy game. This isn't Dostoyevsky. I just want to know whether the guy with spiky hair survives or not.

And, yes, this is all moot now, since we have spin-offs. Which is unfortunate because oh man are the cash-in spinoffs dreadful.

Anonymous Thu Apr 3 03:56:02 2014 No.1516947

>>1516939
I think the funny thing about FFVII is that it WAS overrated for so long people got sick of hearing about it and decided to bash it whenever possible.
I might actually say based on the amount that gets said about it on the internet lately it is actually UNDERrated.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 04:03:03 2014 No.1516959 >reduce battle size down to three >force you to use one guy at all times This is probably VIIs biggest flaw, or the one I took the most issue with anyway.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 04:04:03 2014 No.1516960 >>1516947 It's fine. It's acceptable fun. Everything that eventually destroyed the series started in it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 11:10:58 2014 No.1517329 >>1516959 idk, I have OCD and I cringe at the very thought of rpgs forcing me to have a party of 4 instead of 3 3 is a perfect number, 4 isn't And I think you feel closer to your party with 3 characters at a time, 4 looks like a fucking squad

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 11:13:28 2014 No.1517334 >>1507251 ILUMINATI!!!! Nah really, whats up with that eye?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 11:19:29 2014 No.1517340 >>1508084 >breaks a lot of conventions in the franchise. Like what? I'm just getting into RPG's (currently playing FFVII).

Anonymous Thu Apr 3 11:41:58 2014 No.1517371

>>1508084
I used to think I liked X and would defend it. I still think its better than 8 or 9. But I just picked up the HD remake and am replaying it and....its not as good as I remembered. I last beat the game in highschool and attempts to replay never got past Blitzball so its been a while.

So much unskippable dialog. The voice acting is terrible and combines horribly with the super stiff gestures. Awkward doesn't begin to describe it. It takes about 6 hours to get to a point where you can start having fun with the combat system and sphere grid. 6 damn hours. I could watch 3 movies in that time. Movies without horrible acting puppets.

Anonymous Thu Apr 3 14:58:10 2014 No.1517764

>>1517371

I really have never understood people who like X at all. I was an 'everything is cool' accepting sort of consumerist idiot around the time I first played it, and I thought it was reprehensible even back then.

The battle system is pretty fun. But the awful, nonsense story, objectionable characters, and ludicrous, painful costume, monster and character designs have always made it unbearable for me.

Anonymous Thu Apr 3 15:36:40 2014 No.1517842

>>1517371
>>1517764
FFX may not be the worst FF (I'm looking at you, XIII) but it was the biggest disappointment to me personally - after the step from SNES to PSX... THAT was the step from PSX to PS2?

Somebody should have cancelled the series right then.

Anonymous Thu Apr 3 16:35:25 2014 No.1518001

>>1516491
From Wikipedia, with all caps for emphasis added by Anon:
"Zidane is a Genome, created by Garland on the planet Terra to replace Kuja as a more powerful "Angel of Death." Jealous of his successor, Kuja cast Zidane down to Gaia, where he is found and adopted by Baku and his group of thieves, Tantalus. Before the events of the game, he leaves Baku to search for his real home, HIS ONLY MEMORY being a blue light. Unsuccessful, he returns to Baku and rejoins Tantalus."

As for Cecil, I guess you're right. It's been at least 20 years since I played the game through and perhaps I've a touch of amnesia myself, but I seemed to [incorrectly] recall that Cecil had amnesia. Rather, he wast just a bastard (as he didn't know his dad) and a son of whore (as his slut of a mother was likely unmarried to the wayward Lunarian). And because of his status as a bastard, he wouldn't have known who might be his brother or not, hence being unaware that Golbez shares his standing as KluYa's crotchfruit.
I'm surprised he's not black. Doesn't know his dad. Raised by a single, unwed mother. Burglarises a place, stealing a precious jewel. On the run from the law. Gets into fights at random. Beats up those involved in said fight and takes their money. Has a bunch of siblings he's unaware of (yes, this is mentioned in the game text). Wants to bang a white bitch. Sounds pretty stereotypically black to me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 16:50:25 2014 No.1518025 >>1517842 Well it did have the best weapon/armor system in the series and was different from the usual spiel of "This armor is now shit." Armor with abilities > Armor with stats

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 16:55:25 2014 No.1518036 >>1516368 Exploiting the item duplication bug is cheating.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 17:13:25 2014 No.1518072 FFIV and FFVII are the best Final Fantasy games.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 20:20:30 2014 No.1518502 File: 336 KB, 500x500, 1396570811901.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] bump

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 20:27:58 2014 No.1518513 File: 82 KB, 300x321, 1338777710122.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1518036 duping items you probably wont ever use more than once isnt cheating

Anonymous Thu Apr 3 21:45:58 2014 No.1518703

You people need your own fucking board. If those ponyfuckers got one, why cant you mediocrity-worshipping, interactive storybook level of strategy enabling dullards have one? (I do like quite a lot of them that being said, but goddamn please stop clogging up /vr/ with the same threads day in, day out. Honestly you're nearly as bad as the futa posters on /d/ Rein it in a little bit)

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 22:04:58 2014 No.1518749 >>1518513 If you're not going to use them more than once, what the fuck are you duping them for? And any kind of duping is inherently cheating.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 22:44:28 2014 No.1518839 >>1518703 >clogging up /vr/ There's 2 FF threads on a board that is so slow I've been following the same threads for 5 days not that I would mind an /ff/

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 22:59:29 2014 No.1518889 >>1517764 >ludicrous, painful costume, monster and character designs Wait, what was so terrible about the characters and monsters in X? They seemed pretty run of the mill for a FF game to me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 23:10:28 2014 No.1518907 File: 60 KB, 500x730, 1396371063994.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1516609 >if you recognize that humans can be weak then you don't get laid lolrekt

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 23:22:28 2014 No.1518947 >>1518889 I don't think the character designs are too bad, but there are some pretty ridiculous things like Lulu's dress made of belts and Tidus's everything. Wakka's hair is pretty goofy as well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 23:27:58 2014 No.1518962 >>1518947 I still like it better than all the leotards the female characters wore in the 90s

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 3 23:48:16 2014 No.1519031 >>1507960 6 was kind of limited by technology. There was only so much they could have those tiny sprites do. They made them as expressive as they can and definitely worked as hard as they could to make the game feel cinematic at times

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 00:03:16 2014 No.1519071 >>1517329 I agree with this. I started playing suikoden and I couldn't tell you a single name of one of my party members besides the player character who I naked after myself

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 01:06:23 2014 No.1519217 >>1518962 >leotards on sexy women >bad You must be underage. Or just have shit taste. Or are gay. All of which are alright, by the way. But you talk about sexy girls in leotards like it's a BAD thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 01:07:53 2014 No.1519220 >>1518907 Feel free to pretend that's what I said if it makes you feel better.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 01:20:53 2014 No.1519250 >>1519071 I don't know, Suikoden did have some weird 'Ill never use you' types of characters but for the most part I think It did a lot more than say Chrono Cross to give characterization to a lot of them.

Anonymous Fri Apr 4 01:36:54 2014 No.1519293

I tried to play this but it just seemed to me to be like every other jrpg at the time. What makes this game so much better than the rest, and is there a point where the game picks up at all. I'm having a real hard time understanding all the praise this game gets...

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 02:12:23 2014 No.1519346 >>1519220 Not him. It's nearly exactly what you said.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 02:14:53 2014 No.1519352 >>1519293 Because it wasn't like every other jrpg at the time. I'm curious what you're comparing it to.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 02:34:23 2014 No.1519379 >>1519293 the characters the soundtrack that scene where you try to assassinate the president

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 02:37:23 2014 No.1519383 >>1519379 nvm, this is ff8 actually

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 02:42:55 2014 No.1519398 >>1518001 >HIS ONLY MEMORY being a blue light He's younger than 4 when he comes to Gaia, we don't know how Genome memories compare to our own, but it's still a pretty young age to attribute lack of Terran memories to an amnesia trope.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 05:40:30 2014 No.1519589 >>1518839 6* and thats not even counting all the threads that end up becoming ff threads because someone loosely mentions it and take over.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 05:59:00 2014 No.1519597 Least there is some loves for V. Has every i want/need in a FF title.

Anonymous Fri Apr 4 06:14:30 2014 No.1519608

>>1519293
>>1519352

Because for many it was first JRPG they encountered. It seems quite unique from storytelling perspective if you compare it with western dungeons. It has much more focus on the characters then WRPGs. It's more linear, but that allows it to flesh the story out more.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 10:26:52 2014 No.1519856 >>1519217 Leotards are featureless and uninteresting, just like the women who wear them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 15:27:10 2014 No.1520474 >>1519856 >caring about women's personalities You're definitely young.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 4 18:58:15 2014 No.1520905 >>1520474 >>caring about women's personalities You're putting words into my mouth. My comment was strictly on the appearance, not personality. You may be older than me, but you certainly aren't any more mature with that attitude of yours. Bye.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 00:38:01 2014 No.1521707 Hey does anyone have that picture of Aeries dying with Cloud holding her calling her 420SwagGirl or something?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 01:53:55 2014 No.1521802 File: 25 KB, 534x570, 1395066397367.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >playing all of the old FF's on my Vita Yeah I could play them on a PsP but this feels genuine

Anonymous Sat Apr 5 11:18:00 2014 No.1522482

I like how everyone calls FF7 the most overrated game, but all I've ever heard is how awesome 6 is. That's it. "6 iz teh best gaym evur!" I come to play that fucking game, after beating every other up to 10 (everything past that is a pile of caca) and the game sucks massive dicks! Terra is more emo than Cloud and Kefka has NO back story. He's a guy who was experimented on and went crazy. That's it. Every character fucking pissed me off, except maybe Celes (should've been the main character), and the story was too goofy for me to take seriously. I'll stick to 4, 5, 7, and 9, thank you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 11:20:30 2014 No.1522487 >>1521802 I'm playing FF3 on my DS right now. The Famicom FF3 that is. There is no greater comfy than lying down in bed and playing a good RPG. It's to the point that I don't even want to sit up to fight monsters anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 15:31:37 2014 No.1522984 >>1507117 When i was a child it took me 2-3 years to beat the scorpion playing on a regular basis. i just didnt know how the fuck i could beat him

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 16:56:02 2014 No.1523226 >>1511049 This thread was terrible from the start. You can't kill a dead delivery.

Anonymous Sat Apr 5 18:48:00 2014 No.1523437

>>1522482

>underage detected.

FF6 is not the greatest game ever. It's way better than any game that came after it, but it's not a classic or anything. The fact that it's goofy is not a criticism. That's good. I'm fucking sick of games taking themselves so seriously.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 19:01:58 2014 No.1523459 >>1523437 >It's way better than any game that came after it Let's not go crazy here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 19:31:40 2014 No.1523528 File: 16 KB, 191x210, Ehrgeiz-Yuffie.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I like 6, 7, 8 and 9 equally. What now?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 19:36:33 2014 No.1523536 >>1523528 Congratulate yourself for being a well-rounded Final Fantasy fan, I guess. I've played to completion every main non-MMO series game (and a few more) and I didn't dislike any of them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 19:50:33 2014 No.1523558 >>1523536 I even like Mystic Quest. Very much actually.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 20:05:00 2014 No.1523584 File: 71 KB, 680x960, 1396742746884.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1523528 yuffie was one of my first video game crushes while everyone else was loving tifa or aeris, I fell for her spunky personality

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 5 20:20:00 2014 No.1523628 File: 15 KB, 260x250, mini yuffie.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1523584 Totally agree. Just noticed I have some rare FF7 artbook scans. Might drop them later.

Anonymous Sun Apr 6 21:19:48 2014 No.1526145
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Anyone have any advice for getting this to run on Windows 8 with the beacause translation? I ran it in a windwos xp VM with the XP patch and it still doesn't run. It'd be nice to have the translation in a PSX ISO, but to my knowledge it's PC only.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 6 21:39:46 2014 No.1526191 >>1523459 He's just one of those anti-3D people

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 6 21:51:01 2014 No.1526214 File: 79 KB, 994x804, 1396835510241.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who's your FF7 waifu, /vr/?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 6 21:54:31 2014 No.1526220 >>1526214 Non-hipster answer: Aeris, because she's a lot more interesting as a person. Hipster answer: Jessie.

Anonymous Sun Apr 6 21:57:01 2014 No.1526226
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>>1523584
I didn't know anyone liked Aeris. It was always Tifa this, Tifa that. Tbh I always found her kinda dull compared to the other two.

Granted, I also don't find VII to be the best FF either.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 6 22:09:01 2014 No.1526253 >>1511205 >>1511154 Retards that don't comprehend the concept of character development >hurr durr I prefer static characters that represent one standard through 3-4 discs because I live a monotonous and mediocre life

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 6 22:24:23 2014 No.1526281 File: 395 KB, 514x601, finalf7.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Worst part of the game for me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 6 22:26:06 2014 No.1526290 >>1526281 Easily. But mostly because the whole situation was so poorly translated imo. Which brings me back to >>1526145 Does anyone play the original PC version, and does beacause work with the steam version?

Anonymous Sun Apr 6 22:36:57 2014 No.1526318

>>1516669
>Blinding flash of light
>Aeris looks up

Best ending in a final fantasy, so many warm feelings. It's clear that Holy etc. changes the world forever, but it's up to interpretation to what degree. The bonus ending hints that humanity is not wiped out (children laughing) but set on the path to harmony with the planet.

Anonymous Sun Apr 6 22:47:02 2014 No.1526342

I want to replay this game, but I want to make it a little harder this time around. I feel like the Materia system has a lot of depth that really isn't explored because the game is too easy to justify going all out with experimentation. Can /vr/ vouch for any difficulty mods that remedy this? Do they justify another playthrough?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 6 22:51:01 2014 No.1526350 >>1526318 This. Midgar was only in ruins because there'd be no more Mako to run it. People would have just abandoned it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 6 22:57:01 2014 No.1526367 >>1526342 in my opinion the most fun way to replay FF7 is to just rush it, dont stay in an area too long and if you're a real masochist: no materia or well..no good materia

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 6 23:09:27 2014 No.1526393 >>1526367 This is kinda tempting because materia management is a bitch. It's not really what I'm looking for though. I want to be forced to use my resources thoughtfully and effectively; I don't want to limit my options.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 7 03:24:15 2014 No.1526909 >>1526214 >All that incompetence, spaghetti, acting tough, and breaking up the other Turk's ale break. Elena is way down the waifu list.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 7 04:01:45 2014 No.1526949 >>1507056 >2014 >Still no FFVII remake Does Squeenix hate money that much? I replayed the shit out of this game back in the day, but it hasn't aged well at all. Mostly because the SD Popeye graphics were already shit back in 1997...

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 7 04:24:34 2014 No.1526970 >>1526949 no matter how good it was, it would never be the same it wont give you the feels you got or that "new" feeling everyone so desperately thinks a simple remake will give you

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 7 04:42:32 2014 No.1526975 >>1526220 This. Tifa's sexy, but Aeris is beautiful.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 7 04:54:32 2014 No.1526986 >>1526970 What are you blathering about? Yes, it fucking will. I just want the same game but without it looking like shit and I'll be happy to give Squeenix all of my money.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 7 22:34:15 2014 No.1529020 >>1507745 no emoticons are acceptable

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 7 22:51:02 2014 No.1529048 >>1526220 >Hipster answer: Jessie. Most underrated FF girl.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 7 22:51:02 2014 No.1529049 >>1526970 Who cares? It'd be better than the mary sue developer waifu bullshit with Lightning.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 06:08:36 2014 No.1529643 >>1529049 What's wrong with Lightning?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 11:13:04 2014 No.1529943 FF7 Character Tier List >God Tier: Vincent Barret >High Tier Cloud Yuffie Cid >Mid Tier: Red XIII Aeris >Low Tier Tifa Cait Sith

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 11:26:34 2014 No.1529956 >>1529943 I found Vincent to be pretty bro for his appearance and outfit of a brooding werewolf

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 11:29:35 2014 No.1529957 >>1529943 Red XIII is better than Vincent, I never use Vincent

Anonymous Tue Apr 8 11:44:34 2014 No.1529984

>>1529957
No he's not

Vincent has the best magic stat in the game
Vincent has 255 accuracy and is the best deathblow user in the game
Vincent can literally 1 hit kill anything in the game
Vincent is completely invincible with Chaos with the right set up
Vincent has mug glitch

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 11:46:34 2014 No.1529989 >>1529984 Okay tool box that plays the games based off statistics, I was implying I enjoy Red XIII as a character more

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 11:52:04 2014 No.1529997 >>1529984 Vincent does not 1 hit Ruby Weapon... Ruby Weapon 1 hit kills Vincent...

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 11:55:35 2014 No.1530002 >>1529989 Do you understand what a tier list is? idiot

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 11:59:34 2014 No.1530012 >>1529997 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny5pDSxLHUI

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 12:01:34 2014 No.1530017 >>1530002 Tier lists usually are opinionated towards preference.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 12:11:35 2014 No.1530034 >>1507943 I like how later on in the game, those dragons show up as normal enemies and they aren't even really that hard. It's at that point the game is showing you, "See? You do have the potential to be as strong as Sephiroth."

Anonymous Tue Apr 8 12:13:34 2014 No.1530037

>>1526220

i was honestly sadder when jessie died than when aeris died. she was just a basically normal girl caught up in the whole eco terrorist thing, and to top it all off the last thing she sees before she dies is the guy who she has a huge crush on who apparently does not give two fucks about her

Anonymous Tue Apr 8 12:14:04 2014 No.1530042

>>1530017
Opinion-based tier lists are a retarded bastardization of what tier lists are supposed to be. It's another one of those things 4chan uses wrong.

Tier lists originated in competitive gaming, especially fighting games, to make a list of which characters are the best. They aren't based on opinion, they're based on statistics, usually based on performance in official tournaments, where the players are assumed to be using the characters to their fullest potential.

Anonymous Tue Apr 8 12:14:34 2014 No.1530040

>>1530017
>Tier lists usually are opinionated towards preference.
>towards preference.
No, No they are not.

>A tier list is a method of ranking and grouping characters based on who has the most/least advantages and strengths

Back to gamefaqs with you casual faggot.

Anonymous Tue Apr 8 12:18:04 2014 No.1530051

>>1530040
Simmer down. It's just video games.

>>1530042
Does it come from competitive gaming? I ask out of curiosity because competitive gaming is relatively new (compared to RPGs that is) and it seems likely that a tier list of sorts could come about from discussions of some 80s RPGs.

Just curious.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 12:20:34 2014 No.1530057 >>1530040 You lose all credibility with me by behaving like a massive cunt See >>1530042 I'll listen to him, because he doesn't Add a whiny inflection on his post.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 12:25:04 2014 No.1530070 >>1530057 >That butthurt No one cares, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 12:28:04 2014 No.1530073 >>1530070 >>/v/

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 12:32:34 2014 No.1530086 >>1530073 >>>/reddit/

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 12:33:34 2014 No.1530089 >>1530073 >>/v/ Here let me help you >>>/out/

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 12:34:04 2014 No.1530095 File: 8 KB, 248x251, 1276695004065.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1530070 plz go, you just sound like an angry teenager, or someone who never matured past that point in life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 12:43:34 2014 No.1530108 >>1508096 I figured Meteor was some kind of magical construct of pure destructive energy rather than a literal meteor, and the Lifestream just sort of dissolved it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 12:45:34 2014 No.1530113 >>1530095 Take your own advice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 12:56:35 2014 No.1530129 >>1530108 Kind of like in fifth element, eh?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 12:56:35 2014 No.1530130 When I was a kid it totally went over my head that the Big Materia are the FF7 equivalent of the four crystals.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 13:01:24 2014 No.1530139 >>1530051 >relatively new 1991 is relatively new?

Anonymous Tue Apr 8 13:05:25 2014 No.1530147
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>FFVIII has Squall saying "..." and "whatever" every five minutes

>FFVI has a half-demon girl saying things like "Will I ever fall in love?"

>FFVII is the one that always gets singled out for being emo

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 13:06:54 2014 No.1530152 >>1530147 >>FFVII is the one that always gets singled out for being emo I literally have not seen the word "emo" since 2005.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 13:11:24 2014 No.1530160 >>1530139 Compared to the early 80s for RPGs and about mid 80s for JRPGs, yes, 1991, is relatively new.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 13:19:06 2014 No.1530171 >>1530152 Okay, then you obviously haven't been reading the thread?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 13:19:06 2014 No.1530173 >>1530012 I stand forrected, thnx for video fag, I love that battle musack

Anonymous Tue Apr 8 13:33:07 2014 No.1530204

>>1529984
What's the Mug glitch?

I know Vincent and Barret can both one-shot Emerald Weapon with a physical attack, if you completely max out their ultimate weapons, but it takes a lot of hardcore poopsocking. With Vincent you have to kill like 64000 monsters, and with Barret you have to max out I think six Knights of the Round materias.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 13:36:06 2014 No.1530210 >>1530147 FF7 gets the emo stamp because of Crisis Core and shit like that. I think anyone who actually calls FF7 "emo" hasn't actually played it, and it just figuring it is because of the awful additions like Advent Children.

Anonymous Tue Apr 8 14:07:16 2014 No.1530265
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>>1530147
I don't think either Squall, Terra or Cloud or emo. People seem to always use that word wrong. They are just moody, serious and quiet people, and kinda lacking in the social skill department. Kinda like most people on 4chan I would say.

Here, have a happy Cloud

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 14:15:47 2014 No.1530284 >>1530265 Terra is half-demon and is always saying "will I ever know true love?" Maybe emo is the wrong word... More like chuunibyou.

Anonymous Tue Apr 8 14:22:46 2014 No.1530301

>>1530284
Yeah when I hear emo I think of teenagers listening to emo music, wearing a lot of make up and black and crying and being overly emotional, cutting their wrists and acting depressed ONLY for attentions sake. It's not their real personality, but it's something they do for attention. And it's usually only a phase.

This is not the same as being sad or serious or moody, which I think Terra, Squall and Cloud are. They don't do it for attention, it's just a part of their personality.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 18:02:16 2014 No.1530721 >>1530147 Considering how Terra is the most depressive character in FF (even more so than Squall - at least he had a wry sense of humor), I really feel VII gets a bad wrap. Cloud is confused and sometimes moody, but never really "emo".

Anonymous Tue Apr 8 18:12:16 2014 No.1530730

>>1530301
>>1530721
I never thought of Terra as sad or depressive/depressed. Emotionless, maybe? Just assumed that the amnesia that came with her slave crown removal also removed emotion? I mean; it's never stated or even implied that this is the case, but it's just what I've always assumed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 18:18:46 2014 No.1530737 >>1530721 Yeah it's annoying how people throw "emo" around but what can you expect on 4chan!

Anonymous Tue Apr 8 18:27:16 2014 No.1530742

>>1530284
>Maybe emo is the wrong word... More like chuunibyou.
This flavor of the month kneejerk bullshit needs to stop. You have no idea what emo is and you certainly have no idea what chuunibyou is.

That stupid fucking show. Once it aired, everybody suddenly gained a new favorite word and of course everybody already knew what it was about long before the show was ever announced, right.

Anonymous Tue Apr 8 18:32:16 2014 No.1530746

>>1530721

She seems like a person in a difficult situation. Cloud, a predecessor to the disgusting self-hating betamax that is Squall, takes breaks every so often to whine about shit.

I don't know, only you can make the call. VII, unlike the games after it, is still enjoyable. It's not great, though. But VI? That game's pretty sweet.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 18:47:16 2014 No.1530764 >>1530742 >You have no idea what emo is Dude, I literally JUST SAID emo is the wrong word, and I'm no longer using it to describe her. Try to keep up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 18:54:34 2014 No.1530776 >>1530742 >You have no idea what emo is Dude, I literally JUST SAID emo is the wrong word, and I'm no longer using it to describe her. Try to keep up. I wasn't even the one who brought up "emo", that word's been used throughout this thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 19:09:34 2014 No.1530797 >>1530776 I think Anon is complaining about the use of grolious nihongo. Doesn't 'chuunibyou' mean something like 'acts like a middle schooler?'

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 19:29:52 2014 No.1530814 I played 7 and 8 when they were new and thought they were amazing. Though i don't agree with the crowd that still thinks they are the greatest RPGs ever made. They have been surpassed, but they are still fun to revisit every now and then.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 19:47:21 2014 No.1530835 >>1507243 I fucking love me sum void man, but vii is still my favorite. Half nostalgia, half merits of the game

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 8 19:54:22 2014 No.1530842 >>1507217 Do you trust anyone who calls the beast at the end of FFVI's floating continent "Atma Weapon"?

Anonymous Tue Apr 8 19:58:51 2014 No.1530853

>>1530797
The literal translation is "eighth grade syndrome" and it basically describes that existential angst children tend to go through at some point in their teens, where they realize the world is a big place and they aren't as special and unique as they think they are. So they try to express their uniqueness in really shallow and obnoxious ways. Like claiming to be psychic or half-demon or something.

Terra has blue hair, is half-demon, and says things like "will I ever know true love?" Chuunibyou as fuck.

Anonymous Wed Apr 9 07:32:17 2014 No.1531839

>>1510993
>>1510980
Oh man, I still remember the rush when I first learned about stealing powerful equipment that you couldn't get until after Midgar.

Hardedge from the Shinra Soldiers
A similarly tiered bangle from those robots balancing on a ball
A staff from a chariot dude in the train graveyard.

Anonymous Wed Apr 9 09:01:36 2014 No.1531903

>>1530853
>Terra has blue hair, is half-demon, and says things like "will I ever know true love?" Chuunibyou as fuck.

But she actually is a half-demon with green hair, she's got legitimate reason to feel an existential crisis. I don't think this counts.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 9 15:39:01 2014 No.1532306 >>1531903 It doesn't count at all. Nigga watched a cartoon and thinks he acquired a sociopsychological degree.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 9 16:36:50 2014 No.1532372 >>1530012 the fuck? is this a glitch or something?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 9 16:37:50 2014 No.1532375 >>1532372 nevermind, read the youtube comments, i get it now. sneaky.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 9 17:03:23 2014 No.1532438 >>1531903 Actually, according to the latest SE games, she's a blonde.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 9 17:05:23 2014 No.1532445 >>1532438 With green pubes, sure

Anonymous Thu Apr 10 15:45:31 2014 No.1534452

I have really liked Final Fantasy 7 since I first got it. We played it with my brother and stepdad like there was no tomorrow, on 12 inch crt tv.
Just about a year ago I bought it again on psn store for ps3/vita, while it doesn't have all those
feels you would expect from nostalgia, it's still an engaging and a fun game.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 10 15:59:31 2014 No.1534480 >>1516669 The game gives you all the closure you need The goal was to save the planet. Was the planet saved? Yes it was. All the followups ruined a god ending

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 10 16:06:31 2014 No.1534501 >>1534480 I didn't give a shit about "the planet". Cloud and his feud with Sephiroth was interesting, not the Armageddon crap, that was just a plot device to lend urgency. I cared if Cloud survived or not.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 10 16:18:01 2014 No.1534541 >>1534501 Then you missed the frankly hamfisted message of the game entirely.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 10 16:20:01 2014 No.1534556 >>1534501 It was left open so that the player could decide if humanity deserved to live on or not. The planet was going to rid itself of everything harmful. Midgar becomes the promised land. I hate the sequels so much

Anonymous Thu Apr 10 16:28:01 2014 No.1534581

>>1534541
I don't care about the lack of closure (personally I think it's childish to want closure on everything) but he's right in that the meteor vs. planet angle is not as compelling as the Cloud vs. Sephiroth one.

It's like with FFT; the stupid demon/ancient evil shit isn't what makes the game interesting, it's the human characters and their human motivations and actions.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 10 16:32:01 2014 No.1534584 >>1534581 While I'm not a fan of the ending myself, I'd think the Cloud-Sephiroth thing was already resolved with him being killed twice over in the last two boss fights.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 10 16:34:31 2014 No.1534592 >>1534581 How do you not get closure with cloud and Sephiroth? They have one of the best scripted fights where Cloud Omnislahes him to hell and gets his revenge.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 10 16:55:31 2014 No.1534648 >>1534584 >>1534592 I mean the sort of "happily ever after" closure that some people seem to crave. I liked the ending of FF7.

Anonymous Thu Apr 10 16:58:01 2014 No.1534657

anyone mind share FF IX save file with everything collected at beginning of 3CD?, Treno Card Tournament, if possible. I missed _one_ mognet message. This pisses me off, because I've collected everything else. 100 nobles impressed, lvl 80 hippaul defeated, rare items stolen etc.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 10 21:25:07 2014 No.1535345 >>1507542 FF7 is the most normalfaggiest FF, 8 comes second

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 10 21:38:37 2014 No.1535384 >>1526949 OH MOTHERFUCKING HI, YOUR KIND WAS GETTING TOO LATE TO THE PARTY MOTHERFUCKER Would someone post THAT ONE pic?

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>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 10 21:45:37 2014 No.1535406 >>1535401 dangit, not THAT one. I do agree on it, however

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 10 21:51:37 2014 No.1535413 Wooooowwww FF& totally not overrated. not even that great of a story

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 10 21:59:07 2014 No.1535428 >>1535345 I always thought of VI as being the normalfaggiest.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 10 22:03:07 2014 No.1535437 >>1535428 >VI Did Limp Biskit got featured in FF6 promotionals? Ah, right.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 10 22:03:37 2014 No.1535436 >>1535428 just because it's the best doesn't make it the normalfaggiest

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 10 22:19:07 2014 No.1535465 >>1535406 >I do agree on it Then you're stupid and probably a sheep that can't pay attention to a simple movie.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 10 22:21:38 2014 No.1535467 >>1535465 wow. thanks for those thought-provoking lines

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 10 22:23:37 2014 No.1535472 >>1535465 >defending that piece of shit movie This thread has been pretty terrible thus far, but it may just be the worst thing ever on /vr/ now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 10 22:28:37 2014 No.1535482 >>1535472 I'm not defending it, but you'd have to be an idiot to think Cloud is nothing but "durr darkness so emo" in Advent Children.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 10 22:32:37 2014 No.1535491 >>1535482 Only that's just exactly what his character is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 10 22:34:07 2014 No.1535497 >>1535491 Wrong. He's the same person he was in the game.

Anonymous Thu Apr 10 23:09:07 2014 No.1535591
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>>1535497
Are you for real? Cloud was never than bad in the game, even after the reveal that he isn't who he thought he was. I can get some angst playing off the whole "I let Aerith die" angle, but Advent Children took it way too far.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 10 23:13:07 2014 No.1535598 >>1535591 >I can get some angst playing off the whole "I let Aerith die" angle Is that really the only reason you could possibly come up with to explain his behavior in the movie? Jesus, you're really dense.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 10 23:21:07 2014 No.1535635 >>1535598 Seems like he wasn't defending the AC Cloud persona.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 10 23:24:07 2014 No.1535647 >>1535635 That was obvious. What's your point? His behavior in the movie is perfectly fine if you stop and think about it for more than 30 seconds, and it's identical to how he acts in the game.

>>	Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco Fri Apr 11 08:11:01 2014 No.1536423 >>1532306 >sociopsychological degree You do know chuunibyou isn't a real disorder, right?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 11 08:16:01 2014 No.1536431 >>1535591 >aerith You're obviously too young to be here. Go away.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 12 00:50:54 2014 No.1538167 >>1534584 >you now realize cloud v. seph 3 was all in cloud's head

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 13 00:12:35 2014 No.1540708 >>1536423 You seem to be infected with it tripfag.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 13 00:26:35 2014 No.1540734 >>1540708 Ignore. Hide. Report. He's only attention whoring by attacking people with tripcodes.

Anonymous Sun Apr 13 13:24:45 2014 No.1541705

>>1507243

I'm just playing FFV now, prompted by playing the FFXII IZJS (which I would recommend to anyone, it's fun).

That job system in FFV is awesome. It's nice that you get access to most of the jobs fairly quickly too. Also the soundtrack is fucking great.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 14 20:09:01 2014 No.1545538 File: 41 KB, 1092x481, 1394550394835.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1535384 here, before this thread dies

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