/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1505445]

About to go pick up a RetroN3. pick related. this thing plays nes, snes, and genesis games. any recomendations for games i should get.

[Anonymous No.1505447]

Don't get one

[Anonymous No.1505449]

everyone will recommend you get an actual system, complete with autist rage.

what kind of games do you like?

[Anonymous No.1505456]

>>1505449
id take anything really. im just looking for a good gaming experience.

[Anonymous No.1505472]

>>1505445
If your computer can handle it, and most can, you're better off emulating.

The Retron is an inaccurate emulation on a chip design, and there's no method to fix the emulation bugs because there's no way to update the code it uses. It's the same as those chinese "Super Mega Son III" type 150-in-1 style pirate consoles, except it doesn't come with any games pre-installed.

If you have the money, and collecting physical carts matters to you, get an original system, because it won't have any issues from inaccurate emulation.

If you don't have the money for the original systems, save up, because they aren't that expensive, and why bother collecting physical cartridges when you don't have the original systems to play them on? It's not like the original game developers get any money when you buy used game cartridges, so (as far as I see it) the only reason to collect cartridges is sentimentality or ego. And I'd think a person was a fool if they went out of their way to collect the original carts but not the original system.

TL;DR- Emulation best choice money-wise, original system best choice for collector or accuracy. Don't care either way, you should emulate because it's free. The Retron only has a place in the market for people who aren't well informed.

Info on emulation (to try before you buy the games, if you do end up buying): http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Main_Page

Games: http://vsrecommendedgames.wikia.com/wiki//v/%27s_Recommended_Games_Wiki

[Anonymous No.1505479]

>>1505472
>>1505456
Also, as far as "experience" goes, you can buy USB adapters for the original controllers so you can use the original controllers when you emulate. Or you can just plug in an xbox 360 controller.

You also can get video adapters to push the video from your computer to your TV.

[Anonymous No.1505487]

I have to say, while it kind of interests me, it's an emulation machine. And my TV already has computer connectivity abilities anyway. If I want to play on my TV instead of my monitor I could.

I do still have some game carts that I can't use because I don't have the systems though.

>>1505472
But that bothers me. Unlike an emulator, which can be updated to fix bugs, or switched out for one that works better for you, you are stuck with Retron's emulation software and it's flaws can't be fixed.

Since these things aren't the genuine consoles and only emulate there are going to be issues with compatibility that the real deal does not have. But it's your choice. If you are really desperate and trying to save space and money I guess... But I'd rather have the real thing or emulation on my PC. At least then I know I can get the best experience possible. I don't like the idea of paying for emulation.

[Anonymous No.1505509]

>>1505445

enjoy when this thing smells like burning wires after a couple hours of use.

The Retron3 was a colossal piece of shit. We used to sell them at the game store I worked at and one out of every 6 or 7 we'd sell would come back because it stopped working after a week or two.

The wireless controllers are flimsy and not even wireless. They're infrared. That's right.. you have to sit there with your controller pointed at the console like a dink stuck in 1987.

Just emulate it and save yourself the hassle OP.

[Anonymous No.1505529]

>buying emulators

[Anonymous No.1505538]

>>1505445

At least wait for the RetroN5.

[Anonymous No.1505540]

>>1505509
>The wireless controllers are flimsy and not even wireless. They're infrared.
What were they thinking? Seriously...

[Anonymous No.1505553]

retron3 is using clone hardware, it's not emulation but cheap reproductions of official console
... it has defaults because those things are not made out of official specs but lousy decapping jobs by chinese/russians/brasilians hackers

but it is not emulation AT ALL

[Anonymous No.1505559]

>>1505540

You would be amazed how many people that would ask me about it suddenly lost interest when I told them about that.

The intent is there and it's a great idea but the Retron is ridiculously lacking especially when you factor in 60 for the console (avg) and then the games and obviously controllers because you're sure as shit not using the ones that come with it.

[Anonymous No.1505716]

honestly OP, it's not worth it, seeing as a lot of people have mentioned, it uses that "console on a chip" nonsense and compatibility is all over the place.

I'd recommend either setting your PC up on your TV, getting a Raspberry Pi, or get an Ouya

No. Seriously. If you do that though make sure to get a USB Hub and some USB controllers you enjoy using.

[Anonymous No.1505721]

the Retron 5 will be great. The compatibility will be good since it's on Android and we already know it runs games like Starfox and Super Mario RPG very well. It has HDMI, It'll play ROMs as well as working with real cartridges and supports original controllers. On top of that it'll let you backup/restore save files to real cartridges like the Retrode does, for all the systems it supports. And it's only $99. What's not to like?

[Anonymous No.1505725]

>>1505721

Except the ROM compatibility is a big fat fuckin lie. It only works with cartridges

[Anonymous No.1505724]

>>1505553
citation needed

[Anonymous No.1505735]

>>1505725
Yeah, no. They aren't advertising it as such for obvious reasons, but there won't be any real protection on the SD slot, it's been confirmed already by a brazilian source

Tectoy, a publisher for the Megadrive in Brazil, already did something similar in the past. They released a portable megadrive system (not the nomad) that came with a few games pre-loaded and didn't advertise that it played ROMs, but the thing came with a SD slot that just let you put any ROM there and it would work.

[Anonymous No.1505737]

>>1505725
Ever seen one of these?

[Anonymous No.1505738]

>>1505721
>What's not to like?
The fact that it costs $99 more than superior emulators

[Anonymous No.1505741]

>>1505735

as far as I know the Retron 5 dumps a temporary ROM when you plug a cartridge in and gets rid of it when you finish up with the system, and that the only use for the SD card is for saving save states and images.

Furthermore those emulators on the Retron will most likely never receive updates, and how do we know just how good those are to begin with?

[Anonymous No.1505745]

>>1505735
It's all in portuguese but I'll post it anyway. Directly from the biggest News outlet in the country.

http://g1.globo.com/tecnologia/games/noticia/2013/09/videogame-que-usa-cartuchos-de-10-consoles-chega-ao-pais-em-dezembro.html

>A source close to the project told G1 that Retron 5 can run ROMs for the compatible consoles. ROMs are archives of old games that are illegally distributed on the Internet and that run on PCs and other devices through emulators.

>The feature, not disclosed by Hyperkin, uses the SD card slot, geared to save the progress of games. The slot has no protection to any other kind of files, making it so the ROMs can be recognized and played normally as if they were an original cartridge.

[Anonymous No.1505742]

>>1505445
a real nes, snes, and genesis

[Anonymous No.1505747]

>>1505741
The ROM is dumped to the system RAM, not exactly the SD card or anything like that

[Anonymous No.1505759]

>>1505509
>not even wireless
If there are no wires, they are wireless. They just use an inferior method.

[Anonymous No.1505763]

>>1505745

Okay, but they delayed the console further back than the originally intended release date, maybe they were taking the extra time to find a way to block this?

>>1505747

Yeah, point is that after you finish up, it's gone

The only reason why I'm so damn certain this thing won't play ROM backups is because it all sounds too good to be true.

[Anonymous No.1505768]

>>1505759

>herpa derp look mom i'm being contrarian for absolutely no reason

[Anonymous No.1505772]

>>1505763
>maybe they were taking the extra time to find a way to block this?
I don't think that's their intent. Basically, there's a file manager (pic related) that will let you select ROMs.

[Anonymous No.1505778]

>>1505763
I don't see why they would push the release back just to do a simple fileblock. If anything, they pushed it back back to redesign the console to support the Master System adapter and then they needed to do more testing.

[Anonymous No.1505776]

>>1505772
If the Retron 5 DOES play ROMs from SD then between that, native 1080p output and NES SNES and GENESIS controller ports (plus the RF Genesis6 lookin remotes I'll concede it might be worth buying... For about half of its MSRP.

[Anonymous No.1505781]

>>1505776
used wii is still a better option imo since you get gamecube and wii games + a few n64 titles that work somewhat via VC

[Anonymous No.1505782]

>>1505768
>>herpa derp look mom i'm scrambling for bullshit excuses as to why this wireless controller isn't wireless

Because infrared controllers are totally wired. I bet you think 360 controllers aren't wireless either because they use RF instead of bluetooth, right?

[Anonymous No.1505785]

>>1505776
>native 1080p
It's 720p IIRC

[Anonymous No.1505789]

>>1505781
Still it's only 480p, won't support cartridges, and you need adapters to use the original controllers. I'd rather play on the PC then

[Anonymous No.1505792]

>>1505782

>being this big of an argumentative autist

oh wait I forgot I'm on /vr/ where people get in fist fights over MUH SCANLINES

[Anonymous No.1505798]

>>1505792
>I resort to pure insults because I can't argue against what you said

Thank you for proving my point.

[Anonymous No.1505796]

>>1505789
>Still it's only 480p
Why do you need anything else? The content isn't 1080p in the first place, all it will do is stretch the fuck out of it. Can't argue with the controllers I guess

[Anonymous No.1505797]

>>1505792

not everyone does that anon.

I've actually been using a scaline filter for the first time ever, I kinda like it. I got the filter set up in a way that it reminds me of playing NES back in the day on my dad's shitty old TV and my grandma's ancient set.

[Anonymous No.1505816]

>>1505798

>shitting up this thread arguing with a blatant troll

and your contribution to the thread is what again?

[Anonymous No.1505819]

>>1505796
That's only fine if you're playing on a CRT. Yeah the content isn't 1080p but 3x or 4x native without any filters looks damn good.

[Anonymous No.1505820]

>>1505816
Demonstrating facts in an attempt to make an actual debate of this tripe.

I'm sorry. Should I just shitpost from now on?

[Anonymous No.1505821]

>>1505798
>>1505816

Why are you guys even arguing? Infrared is shit and that's it.

[Anonymous No.1505827]

>>1505781
Well I already do have a modded Wii and I know how much money I put into it - and I'm really really cheap. The breakdown goes $30 for the Wii, $7 for the component cable and $7 each for NES/SNES to Gamecube controller adapters for a total of $51. Add $10 for the classic controller that I actually use most of the time (I'm assuming the Retron comes with 1 controller not 2)

So.. In the Wii's favor
>More emulators
>GC/Wii games
>Netflix/Hulu

In the Retron's favor (theoretically)
>Simpler to use
>Higher resolution (although I'd be a lot happier with 1080p than 720p)
>Sleeker than a bunch of adapters dangling off the Wii

So hmmmm... Yeah, the number of emulators the Wii supports pretty much still tips the tables in its favor. I definitely play MSX and Amiga pretty regularly on my Wii and I doubt very much any Hyperkin product will support them unless they do indeed make it open source and people actually develop for it.

So yeah there's pretty much zero chance I would buy it at release anyway, so we'll see if anyone develops for it. Either way (but the big IF it runs roms from SD) I'll probably wait until I see one used for under $50, maybe with "broken SNES cartridge slot) or something like that which wouldn't matter jack fuck to me if it runs from SD.

[Anonymous No.1505830]

>>1505827
Add to the Retron the fact it supports the original cartridges and dumps/uploads saves like the Retrode.

[Anonymous No.1505831]

>>1505827

I think both have their strongpoints. though isn't the Wii's GBA emulation not so great?

[Anonymous No.1505835]

>>1505821
>Infrared is shit and that's it.

That has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not it's wireless.

[Anonymous No.1505836]

>>1505827
If you literally just want to play ROMs over SD card, then yeah, the Retron 5 isn't for you. I have a huge collection of cartridges and my old consoles simply don't cut it anymore, I don't have a CRT TV since mine died, it was fucking hell to dispose of it, and I don't have much space for another hulking CRT set anyway.

It it lets me play ROMs, that's a nice bonus.

[Anonymous No.1505838]

>>1505835
Yeah it's obviously wireless since it doesn't have a wire, but it's shit and the worst kind of wireless there is nonetheless. You're better off with wired controllers

[Anonymous No.1505847]

>>1505838

>still arguing with this guy

[Anonymous No.1505850]

>>1505721
Hyperkin pls

[Anonymous No.1505853]

>>1505838
>Yeah it's obviously wireless since it doesn't have a wire
That's all I asked for
>goes on to ramble about unrelated opinion of the matter
I didn't ask

[Anonymous No.1505938]

>>1505445
If you don't care about original hardware the Wii does everything better. Including games with add on chips.

If you do care about original hardware, you gone be sad.

[Anonymous No.1505943]

>>1505553
Unfortunately it is.

If you want a famiclone, the fc twin does alright with SNES. Has authentic hardware for it. Not so much on the nes side though.

[Anonymous No.1505971]

>>1505853
If it is infrared it might as well not be anything at all. You're the dumbass asking if it is wireless when it obviously has no wires.

[Anonymous No.1505984]

>>1505971
I was asking for clarification from the nitwit who was arguing about infrared being different from wireless.

Of course, you'd have known this if you kept up with the conversation and had any real education in regards to reading comprehension.

[Anonymous No.1505986]

>>1505540

You can use any normal NES, Genesis, or SNES controller though.

Also, the emulation for the Retron-5 is actually pretty good. NES is a little off (but not much), but SNES and Genesis seem spot-on.

Also, the thing has S-video output.

[Anonymous No.1505987]

>>1505971
Read what this faggot posted
>>1505509
>The wireless controllers are flimsy and not even wireless. They're infrared.

That's what I was arguing against. Try to keep up.

[Anonymous No.1506003]

>>1505830
Yeah it might be nice to actually save to cartridge so you could take it with you... I assume that the SD card will have save files on it in a standard format though so I guess it just depends on if where else you might be wanting to play your RPGs is more likely to have a real console or an emulator with an SD slot.

>>1505831
I haven't really played any GBA on my Wii but I dunno why it wouldn't.

>>1505836
This sounds kinda like BS though. Why not just get SCART cables for your consoles and a YUV transcoder? I'd heard it might not work on HDTVs but the other day I saw a thread where a guy was doing just that.

I have a hard time telling who the marketers are in these threads and I try hard not to sound like one myself.

[Anonymous No.1506007]

>>1505816
>people who prove me wrong are trolls
I advise you to go back to your hugbox.

[Anonymous No.1506009]

>>1506003

give it a shot, I've found a good benchmarking game is Metroid Zero Mission.

[Anonymous No.1506026]

Great thread guys, feels like /v/. Keep it up.

[Anonymous No.1506034]

>>1506026

what do you expect anon? /v/'s cancerous influence is spreading here because those idiots aren't content with shitting up their own board.

Also if the Retron 5's controller isn't bad in terms of construction and its sold separately, I'd consider picking one up, I like microswitches

[Anonymous No.1506162]

>>1505445
Oh shit, thanks op!
Never knew these things existed.

Can't wait to play my extensive collection of 32x games again!

[Anonymous No.1506179]

>>1506162
I'm pretty sure no clonesoles play 32X games. Best off emulating if you don't want to join the Cult of the Black Mushroom.

[Anonymous No.1506184]

You know what happens with these things.

>You buy it and realize it's shit and end up getting the originals

OR

>It gets put back in the box after fifteen minutes of use and I'll probably buy it from you for $5 at a garage sale in a few years just to fuck around with it.

[Anonymous No.1506190]

>>1505737
>buying a flashcart to use in an emulator

I actually saved this picture from the internet to post, here. I know your first instict might be to take a photograph of the screen and scan it into your computer for use later, but it's not necessary.

[Anonymous No.1506189]

>>1506179
Far too late for that, Sir.

That thing can't even use the 32x or CD, can it? Even if you didn't use the video pass through cable, huh?

[Anonymous No.1506205]

>>1505776
Raspberry Pi running RetroPie does all that, so long as you have a USB controller you like.

Retron is a piece of shit

[Anonymous No.1506215]

>>1505724
http://forums.benheck.com/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=72103

see post #6 from a guy who actually opened it

it uses a Tectoy GoaC for genesis and similar clones SoC for NES and SNES. Low compatbility is due to missing pins on the cartridge slots and clone usual faults

[Anonymous No.1506217]

>>1506162
If part of my job involved posting on forums about the company product, I'd come here without hesitation because I don't owe you cunts anything.

That said, it's like you're not even trying.

If you're going to be Retron's bitch, at least put some work into it.

[Anonymous No.1506224]

Is this guy serious?
>>1506217

Or seriously impaired!

[Anonymous No.1506225]

>>1505943
no it isn't, see link above

retron5 is their first attempt with software emulation, probably because it is cheaper than having to get these SoC from china and in gives overall better compatbility due to existing open source emulators.

[Anonymous No.1506235]

>>1506225
>modern prcoessor
>cheaper than 30 year old technology

Fuck off emulation being cheaper, they are just lazy fucks who don't want to actual engineer a product that has to switch between hardware modes instead they can just throw some shitty software onto their cellphone chip. Also emulators will never have better compatibility than a true hardware clone. The retron 5 is a piece of shit with so many bad design choices if you want to emulate why do you need the real cart? The game isnt even played off the cart its just dumped and the cart sits there for show. Retron 5 belongs in the trash.

[Anonymous No.1506236]

>>1506225
system on a chip sucks, though.

The fc twin has an actual ricoh cpu in it for the snes. And the nes side is noac. which sucks.

[Anonymous No.1506241]

>>1506236
official SoC are ok, pirate/clone ones are shit indeed
that's basic dirty copy job to basically done to suck money, that's it

[Anonymous No.1506253]

>>1506241
Is the AtGames' genesis official? I know that one has some sound problems.

[Anonymous No.1506256]

>>1506235
it's shit job but there is a market for it
people will always buy these things, like they buy AtGames crappy stuff, NeoGeoX scam, etc so it's pointless to get mad like you are, it is really not that important as long as other solutions exist

[Anonymous No.1506260]

>>1506253
it's like NeoGeOX, they simply paid license fees to be able to put sega logo on their stuff and include a bunch of games

it's still crappy chinese hardware running a crappy emulator in the end and Sega probably does not even care if it makes our ears bleeding

[Anonymous No.1506267]

>>1505445
op is a faggot viral marketer. ignore him and move on.

>paying for emulators

why.jpeg

[Anonymous No.1506271]

>>1506267

aren't you technically paying for an emulator if you just buy a PC for the sake of emulation? Or a Raspberry Pi?

[Anonymous No.1506272]

>>1506267
I can't. You faggots just can't let this shit go.

Something about how other people are spending their money.

Retron should start a paid shiller referral program just for vr.

[Anonymous No.1506276]

>>1505445
hyperkin fuck off nobody likes your product here

[Anonymous No.1506358]

>>1506007

I advise you fuck off and die you autist

[Anonymous No.1506512]

>>1505445
Get the actual systems instead

[Anonymous No.1506520]

>>1505721
Take it to /v/ markeeter scum

[Anonymous No.1506559]

Hahaha, fuck yeah, JUST 1 CC'd Contra Hard Corps!

AND my fucking genesis scart cable just arrived in the mail. Hello RGB!

Fuck that retron shit.

[Anonymous No.1506627]

I'd start believing these retron threads were legit if they stopped using the same stock photos used to market the systems. Even when random /b/-tads pick up a super nintendo at a goodwill and run here to blab about it, they take a picture of the actual system they just bought, even if it's with a shitty cell phone cam. Nobody who comes here to talk about retron has ever had a picture they took of the console themselves .

[Anonymous No.1506884]

>>1506627
Is it that surprising, though?

Lots of people get a retro bug and first thing they do see is some new thing that can "play" all the consoles.

And there goes another retron thread. I doubt too many people buy one after all the shitting it gets.

[Anonymous No.1506929]

OP here. didnt realize this was still up. I took the advice so kindly given to me and started emulating. the console clone i wanted was sold out. however i was wondering if there were any better ones for either snes or genesis

[Anonymous No.1506950]

OP again found this

[Anonymous No.1506954]

also found this

[Anonymous No.1506958]

>>1506954
this aint so bad sure its still emulation shit but its in a cool little purpose built handheld. If the buttons are good and the games are emulated well enough I would get one arent they only like 20 bucks?

[Anonymous No.1506959]

[Anonymous No.1506960]

>>1506950

Go fuck yourself.

[Anonymous No.1507007]

>>1506929
I don't know about SNES but I know Genesis clone consoles always have really terrible sound and there is no point in buying a Genesis clone console when you can just get a model 1 HD Graphics for around $30-40. Hell on ebay you can find tons of Genesis lots with the console, cords, controllers and like five games for at least $50.