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If anybody says this wasn't the greatest Spyro game they are a liar.

>implying anybody would argue about spyro

Pic related

>> No.1494042

I don't think there's anyone that would dispute that.

The only contentious question in Spyro is which was worse: Enter the Dragonfly or A Hero's Tail?

>> No.1494052

It is more just a big step down from Ripto's Rage. That doesn't make it bad at all though.

>> No.1494053

>>1494042
OP here, I didn't think Enter the Dragonfly was TERRIBLE. It surely wasn't as good as the original trilogy, but it was still pretty stupid. Never played a hero's tail

>> No.1494056
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>>1494042
At least Hero's Tail was playable without constantly having to load all the damn time. Still nowhere near as good as the original three.

>>1494032
I'd say it tried to do a bit too much and as such suffers a bit for it, but that by no means makes it a bad game. Kind of like Crash Bandicoot Warped in that aspect.

Posting some Spyro related videos on the off chance people might not have seen them.
Interview with Stewart Copeland on making the music for Spyro.
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kc2gGycBXc
Making of Spyro the Dragon
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVFMpBDIuzc
Making of Spyro 2
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3pCo4hhtp4

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>>1494042
These look pretty decent, but I didn't play them. The ones that came after are true hell. Still, Spyro 3 was the best for me.
>those skate levels
>those spax shooting courses
>all the mini missions of spyro's friend
Ah, good times.

>> No.1494240

>>1494226 here. I remembered I actually played A hero's tail. It had good powers and platforming, but didn't really feel like a spyro game at all. Maybe it was because it wasn't level-separated, it was one big world.

>> No.1494243

>>1494032
The only thing that I hate about this game is that I played the failed cracked version as a kid

>> No.1494245

>>1494042
>The only contentious question in Spyro is which was worse: Enter the Dragonfly or A Hero's Tail?

No one here cares since it's not /vr/.

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>>1494243
Never got to see the ending because of this shit.

>>1494245
Yeah, cause we onlye play retro vidya, don't we?

>> No.1494396

Yep, it's the best. I especially love the first home world, reminds me of when I first started the game, on a Sunday morning.
>>1494042
I actually liked A Hero's Tail, I thought it went back to a style more like the 1st game, the 3rd game had started to have a bigger focus on mini games, which is something I've seen people complain about Year of the Dragon for. Enter The Dragonfly's framerate hurts my head.

>> No.1494402

>>1494240
It felt like a sequel to the first Jak and Daxter but with spyro put in instead.

>> No.1494620

>>1494032

>Too damn many mini-games. They were good in Spyro 2 but there felt like there were too many in the third one.
>Too many portals that lead to separate areas, the levels didn't have that cohesive feeling that the levels of the first two did.
>Yeti boxing
>The partners weren't really that exciting

It was a good game, but I like the first two more.

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>>1494042

>> No.1494757
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Now, don't get me wrong, I love the 3 of them equally, but for different reasons.

That said, I don't think there's much to put this one above the others:

>rushed for release in 2000, glitchfest
>Greatest Hits edition still glitchfest
>Agent 9 gameplay is less than perfect
>the distribution for partner quests is a bit odd
>final boss and true final boss are anti-climactic, not as awesome as the Ripto fight

That being said, I could make a list for the other 2 titles. Ripto's Rage may not have as many glitches, but the double jump alone breaks it in half, for example.

>> No.1494763

>>1494757
What's glitchy about the Greatest Hits version? I know there's the swim in air glitch but that's in all of the games and that'll never trigger unless you're trying to make it trigger.

>> No.1494780

>>1494763

The only glitch they bothered to fix was the Speedway glitch (it would make it impossible to get an Egg, thus no 100% for ya). Aside from that, the same stuff as in the original:

>abusing the Sparx teleportation to walk underwater and under lava
>glide on top of the partner portals to access them without paying
>you can skip a big portion of Cloud Spires by gliding into a random wall
>can stand still on a boost pad in some missions, and then grab the skateboard to have your fuel to the max

>> No.1494980

>>1494723
I really liked those. Crash vs spyro was fun as hell.

>> No.1494986

I always change my mind about which was the best when i replay them
Spyro 1 had a special atmosphere the others didn't have though

There is this Spyro fan game without Spyro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3_9NsWtYKI

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>>1494056

>dat stewart copeland video

thank you for this, I'm musician and it is really interesting

>> No.1495167

i felt like year of the dragon had you doing dumb halfbaked ideas that werent platforming more often than the first two did. its been a while since ive played it though so i could be wrong

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>>1494042
Enter The Dragonfly was one of the worst games I have ever played. Empty, lifeless levels, atrocious controls, almost consistent single digit framerates and impossibly ugly production design.

Seriously, the framerate was so bad that it actually gave some kid an epileptic seziure. An impossibly terrible title.

Anyway, back to /vr/.

>> No.1495297

Enter the Dragon is probably the best in terms of content, but Ripto's Rage had the best levels. You really got a sense that each level was it's own self-contained world. It was also comfy as shit.

>> No.1495312

>>1495163
Holy shit, this is the opposite of kawaii.

>> No.1495397

>>1495163

I love how the video means he had to go through Tree Tops. With no music. Props to the man.

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>>1495163
No problem.

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>>1495257
Holy shit.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/vivendi-sony-sued-over-epileptic-seizure/1100-6168230/

>> No.1495427

>>1495163
Basic sequencing and really trivial composition sound interesting to you?

>> No.1495532

No, the order is 2>3>1.

3 has too many gimmicky play styles, but the core Spyro gameplay is amazing. 2 is just pure good Spyro gameplay.

Tell the truth- did anyone actually like the monkey shooting segments in 3? They completely didn't work in the engine.

>> No.1495537

>>1495427
I like old music gear, back when quantization was the newest technology

>> No.1495542

>>1495532
>2>3>1

23 is number 1!

>> No.1495552

>>1495532
I don't think anyone really liked Agent Nine's gameplay, at the very least not beyond his actual full level, but considering that after Spyro 3, Insomniac started on Ratchet and Clank, I'm rather glad they kind of got their initial, clunky attempts with that sort of third person/first person shooting out of the way with a side character, rather than the first Ratchet game feeling anything as clunky as Agent Nine did in Year of the Dragon.

As far as side characters go I thought Sheila and Sergeant Byrd were at the very least decent, even if still a bit gimmicky.

>> No.1495554

>>1495537
It was just as pathetic and lifeless a tool as it is today.

>> No.1495560

>>1494757

>Glitches

What glitches? I've been playing the Greatest Hits edition for going on 14 years and I don't remember any glitches except the one that makes the Yeti race really easy.

>> No.1495565

>>1495560

Nevermind, I just read >>1494780

>> No.1495576

>>1494780
Was that stuff ever fixed for the Collector's Edition bundle?

>> No.1495593

>>1495554
Not that guy but well, from the way Stuart used it didn't really sound as " pathetic and lifeless" as you said but then again, probably depends on how the person utilizes it and also, opinions.

>> No.1496004

>>1495532
It was good for being a challenge, although I know it was just badly made. I'd probably hate it if I played it today. I liked all the other levels though.

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>>1495552
I'm guessing the game would be really ratchet and clunky.

>> No.1496284

>>1496280
Bring back Ultros you fuck.

>> No.1496734

>>1494264
Well it is the retro board.

>> No.1496747

>>1496734
And the spyro franchise is retro related.

>> No.1496752

>>1496747
so is mario

but you can't really call SMG retro

>> No.1496779

>>1496752
Yet you can compare the ways the mario franchise has evolved over the years comparing it with older games. Seriously, just stop whining about everything.

>> No.1496801

>>1496779
If you want a board all about the whole franchise why not just do it in /v/?

>> No.1496804 [DELETED] 

>>1496801
Cause /v/ is shit and I hoped /vr/ would be better. Guess I was wrong. Maybe you are all the same retards posting on different boards.

>> No.1496812

>>1495552
What do you think of Bentley?

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>>1496812
Not him, but bentley is best bro.

>> No.1496848

>>1496804
>I WONT POST IN THE BOARD FOR THIS SORT OF DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT IS SHIT, SO I WILL SHIT UP THIS OTHER BOARD BECAUSE IT IS DECENT FOR THE TOPICS IT DOES TALK ABOUT
What is really wrong with you? How are you so fucking retarded that you don't understand that the only reason this board is any good, is because people follow the easy as fuck to follow rules given?

>> No.1496852

>>1496812
Loquacious. Also pretty cool, though I do wish he had more sublevels like his home one, where you actually get to experience everything he can do. Or maybe I'm remembering ahtw he had wrong, but the only one I can really recall was Yeti boxing.

>> No.1496858

>>1496848
Whatever, dude. Also, anybody else loved the skateboarding? I lost hours on that shit.

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>>1496858
I'd say I enjoyed it. That last one I recall being pretty annoying though. Been a long time since I played though. Really ought to replay all three games soon.

>> No.1496943

>>1496930
The race one? Yeah, that was hard. But the other courses where you can deliberately skate ara pretty damn good.

>> No.1496952

>>1496943
Yeah. Though I do recall those lizards in the first one being little assholes that could turn far better than Spyro could on the board. Felt good finally getting all fifteen or so of them down.

On that note, the whole "do tricks, get boosts" thing during the race one reminded me a lot of Hot Wheels Turbo Racing, which is by no means a bad thing.

>> No.1496963

>>1496852

Ditto on that. I mostly remember the boxing and the whack a mole segment.

>> No.1497000

>>1496963
I remember the whackamole one now that you mention it. Still can't think of any besides those two off the top of my head.

>> No.1497013

>>1496779
>Yet you can compare the ways the mario franchise has evolved over the years

With the cutoff date of 1999, yeah. Otherwise it's just shitposting.

>> No.1497196

>>1497000
He has a straight platforming bit in Bamboo Terrace.

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>>1497196
Oh yeah.

>> No.1497719

>>1497013

>he thinks we can't post about Mario Tennis or one or two of the N64 Mario Parties

lern2rules scrub

>> No.1500536

>>1494757
>implying that getting access to a motherfucking UFO and blasting the shit out of the Sorceress after using shitty cannons isn't climactic

>> No.1501950

>>1500536
That UFO controls like shit. inb4 "git gud", I have beaten that boss multiple times, and most of the challenge comes from trying to aim the damn thing.

The 3 phase battle in Ripto's Arena was way better, and instead they let you fly and superflame at the same time without making it broken. Also, you can't beat that opera.

I still kinda give Year of the Dragon a break because I know it was rushed as fuck, and considering all things it was still pretty good.