/vr/ - Retro Games

[Old Vidya and Internet Thread,(...) No.1471885]

the saga continues

[Anonymous No.1471938]

http://web.archive.org/web/20010404034632/http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/2979/
neat

[Anonymous No.1471954]

>>1471938
Doom levels were a different art without the 3d preview... good times

[Anonymous No.1471961]

>>1471938
Doom editing was so different without the 3d preview. repost with proper decade

[Anonymous No.1472208]

>http://www.teamartail.com/

[Anonymous No.1472212]

http://www.teamtnt.com/

[Anonymous No.1472230]

>>1471961
In my opinion, the 3D view really helps, it's probably one of the most useful features in a Doom editor.

[Anonymous No.1472579]

http://toastytech.com/

>tfw

[Anonymous No.1472582]

I remember when my older brother showed me and my best friend Doom. He got both of us a copy and told us there was a way we could play together, but we never understood what he meant. So instead we would just take turns and pretend we were both playing.

[Anonymous No.1472594]

>tfw you will never be an elite hacker in the 90s

Hack the planet... I guess.

[Anonymous No.1472601]

>>1472594
Cyberpunk Doom when? I wanna hack into the Matrix and steal people's credit card numbers, important files, and pornography.

[Anonymous No.1472606]

>>1472601
Deus Ex

[Anonymous No.1472613]

>>1472601
I'm not sure about Cyberpunk Doom, but here's Matrix Quake II: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO-d2kKHn1Y

[Anonymous No.1472616]

Obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up863eQKGUI

[Anonymous No.1472614]

>>1472606
But I want it with Doom style graphics, lots of shootouts with lots of blood, biological monsters with cybernetic augments, cyborg troopers, punk hairstyles, huge corporate buildings, cyberdecks, all that good old goofy shit.

[Anonymous No.1472617]

>>1472601

Play Deus Ex and Quake II.

[Anonymous No.1472640]

fuck yeah, Gamespy

what I would give for there to be an active 36 player Tribes server today

[Anonymous No.1472643]

>>1472617
I have played Quake II (and I think it gets more shit than it deserves), but it's not quite the Cyberpunk I'm looking for, more like, Shadowrun, something with a dirty style, you're a thug for hire, doing raids on corporations for whoever is hiring (usually a rival corporation), it may or may not have magical elements (like Shadowrun), but I was thinking something on a simpler level. In Quake II, you're a soldier doing a one man siege against an enemy species from outer space, it's not really at all Cyberpunk.

I've never tried Deus Ex, but Human Revolution looks bretty gud.

[Anonymous No.1472645]

>>1472640
I only ever installed that because I was too young to do anything other than clicking NEXT in an install, but I'm glad I had gamespy

first ever games I played online were roguespear and the original stronghold which came out a bit too late to be retro but goddamn that was some good times

did anyone use that MSN GamingZone? I never got around to it

[Anonymous No.1472649]

>>1472643
you should REALLY try out deus ex, the first one

I just finished another playthrough of it, and I think I like it more everytime, definitely one of the best games made IMO

[Anonymous No.1472659]

>>1472649
I might. Though I think the voice-acting... detracts a bit from the game's serious tone.

[Anonymous No.1472660]

I remember that one tragic day when Half-Life servers disappeared and I had to install steam.

[Anonymous No.1472661]

>>1472601
here you go.

[Anonymous No.1472667]

>>1472601
Uplink ?

[Anonymous No.1472669]

>>1472660
The one thing I miss the most from pre-Steam Half-Life isn't the online, it's the Menu. I don't like the minimalist menu Valve uses for Half-Life on Steam, I miss the gorgeous look of the old menu, the glowing letters, the cool sounds.

[Anonymous No.1472671]

>>1472645
Yeah, I played Quake II and chess at the Zone. I just checked: apparently, The Zone is still there, but it seems to be limited to free games along with some 1700 pay games, none of which appears to be an id release. I enjoyed the chat-rooms aspect to it, the a/s/l and shit that was popular in days of olde. Ask for a/s/l, request 13-18 fs to direct-message you, then try & get their AIM screen-name. Shit was so cash.

[Anonymous No.1472672]

>>1472659
I love the voice acting of Desu Sex. I love how Denton makes everything sound unintentionally funny.

[Anonymous No.1472678]

>>1472672
do you have a single fact to back that up?

[Anonymous No.1472681]

I miss the game-specific sites hosted by Gamespy, MGON, UGO, FileFront, and the like.

You had forums, hosted mod sites, downloads, news, well-written articles, contests, polls, all that good shit. All on one site.

Also, the web design on those sites was generally really nice. Light on dark, as it should be.

[Anonymous No.1472683]

>>1472681
Steamcommunity is the spiritual successor.

[Anonymous No.1472697]

>>1472683
The atmosphere and general feeling is completely different, though.

Steam Community is nowhere near as cohesive and personal as the old sites were. It doesn't really give you a feeling of being in a "game community", rather than just being in the general "Steam community".

Also, Steam Community doesn't really have special articles, mod news, file hosting, contests, or anything like that.

[Anonymous No.1472703]

>>1472681
this. The late 90s - early 2000s is the lost golden age of video games.

[Anonymous No.1472708]

>>1472697
>>1472703
Yes, but it's also because Internet is now a lot more mainstream and less nerdy than back then.

[Anonymous No.1472713]

>>1472697
>Also, Steam Community doesn't really have special articles, mod news, file hosting, contests, or anything like that.
It's something they could do (and alraedy do for some parts).

[Anonymous No.1472716]

>>1472697
>special articles
They let that to shacknews, PCgamer, RockPaper Shotgun and other shitty website like that.
>mod news
They do it sometimes
>file hosting
they do!
>contests
they do!

[Anonymous No.1472751]

>>1472594
>those aspie arms on the guy on the left

ahahahaha

[Anonymous No.1472758]

>>1472613
Why was I not informed of this?

[Anonymous No.1472763]

>>1472681
>light on dark
>good

[Anonymous No.1472769]

>>1472681
>mfw dem left-hand edge navigational menus

>>1472708
But that screencap isn't late 90s

[Anonymous No.1472773]

>>1472763
Yep.

[Anonymous No.1472780]

>>1472763
>dark text on bright white background
Enjoy your eyestrain.
Tomorrow master race!

[Anonymous No.1472779]

>>1472751
Joey's the Norm trying to fit in.

[Anonymous No.1472803]

>>1472640
Gamespy was fairly awful then it got worse. That being said, almost every game browser I've ever seen has been fairly clumsy bar one. Kali's TCP browser was the most magnificient and quick game browser with perfect filtering allowing you to create custom filter folders under game listings with whatever you wanted pretty much and all intuitively through the GUI on the fly. No need for absurd scripting languages or clumsy as fuck UI that didn't even list variables or had you do strange things. It also listed all the server variables so you could choose, if it was displayed with the server it was listed. It was also amazingly quick. Filtered pretty much instantly and updating all the servers was fairly quick too. It's a shame it ended up abandoned and broken. But I suppose it doesn't really matter with there not being any worthwhile MP to be had anymore.

It's still hilarious that that steam's server browser isn't even half as good, despite being supported by boatloads of money and essentially the most used browser these days.

[Anonymous No.1472808]

>>1472613
The last time I played Matrix Q2 the mod only had running up walls and slow motion projectiles with slow ring effects on shit.

Apparently, it evolved to the point they ripped off AQ2's weapons and allow you to jump everywhere.

[Anonymous No.1472814]

>>1472803
GameSpy 3D had very similar filtering features.

Also, I was more nostalgic for the GameSpy sites, which were great.

The software was still pretty good, though. Arcade was kind of shitty, but still worked pretty well and had a great community. It used to have its own built-in games that were all pretty fun (especially one called Y.A.R.N), but they had to be removed due to some kind of security issue.

[Anonymous No.1472816]

>>1472758
If you want Matrix style gameplay, The Specialist for HL1 is what you want. It has wall jumping, ledge climbing, diving, flipping, rolling, kung fu, slow down/time stop, super fast firing, actual bullet projectiles for guns with different speeds, katanas/knives/throwing knives all can be thrown. Kicking weapons out of hands, rolling to pick them up.

[Anonymous No.1472819]

>>1472814
Gamespy sites like planetquake were decent at the time. One or two people still update it to this day... it's kind of strangely sad though.

The filter interface wasn't as good with Gamespy and it was far slower to update. Though, I wasn't suggesting that other browsers didn't allow you to filter but they were generally poorly implemented in comparison. I was glad to never have to deal with any other browser since Kali.

[Anonymous No.1472821]

>>1472819
No, man, they stopped updating them completely.
The sites are gone.
They just redirect to IGN or GameSpy now.
GameSpy shut down.

[Anonymous No.1472830]

>>1472821
Well maybe I didn't mean til this day, but I saw them up earlier in the year.
Also their server seems to have a problem, but planetquake is still there. Has an IGN logo in the right hand corner. But the site still exists.
It's taking an assload of time to finish being uploaded though.

[Anonymous No.1472831]

>>1472830
It was up earlier in the year though.

[Anonymous No.1472837]

>>1472830
It just redirects me to IGN or GameSpy, depending on the site.

Point is, the sites are dead.
MGON and their sites are gone too.
UGO is gone.

Filefront is still around, but that's about it.

All of the large game community sites are dead, as are most of the smaller ones. Small fan sites are definitely dead, that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.1472843]

>>1472831
Odd... March 14 cache on google only updates to 2012.

>>1472837
You're going to planetquake.com right? That one does redirect.
Not planetquake.gamespy.com? That one doesn't.

Fileplanet still operates under IGN and has some files.

I never used MGON or UGO.

It was earlier in the year or something pappy or whatever was trying to get people to play Quake 2 on a server and it was empty.

[Anonymous No.1472846]

>>1472843
Fileplanet is archived, though, as are the other sites, if they still operate.

They're not being updated.

http://www.vg247.com/2012/05/05/fileplanet-shutting-down-after-13-years/
http://slateman.net/blog/?p=836

[Anonymous No.1472849]

>>1472846
Archived is still operational.
I suppose it's nice to be updated if someone still made shit for it, but really who cares now? It's not like it matters for newer games. At least having the older stuff there is good.

[Anonymous No.1472851]

>>1472849
The fact is, there are still communities for some of the older games.

Quake, Half-Life, Unreal, CS, and the like still have active communities.

Actually, now that I think about it... most of those have other good sites for their communities.

Never mind, then. Honestly, I just want a time machine to go back to 1999.

Also, I think it would be awesome if newer games could receive the same treatment. I can't help but feel that centralized community hubs like that helped keep them more active.

[Anonymous No.1472853]

>>1472846
The other sites I used to really use were really bluesnews (still up as if "gaming" news mattered anymore), FiringSquad, which went to shit long ago and had plenty of broken portions and kind of went on haitus. Sharky Extreme and Anandtech for tech info. Anand still operates perfectly, sharkys seems broken.

[Anonymous No.1472872]

>>1472851
Newer games are pretty much movies. Once the hype dies down ther mulitplayer servers are closed and sites/forums are no longer maintained.

[Anonymous No.1472881]

>>1472872
If forum even existed for thoses games.

[Anonymous No.1472891]

>>1472851
Quake's community is mostly dead relegated to a handful of euros bouncing around quakeworld.nu and poking at eachother and IRC where they chat and occasionally play against one another and hold tournaments. It's less of an online community and more of a bunch of people who know eachother in real life who still play Quake who simply keep in contact online. Pub servers are empty for the most part aside from one or two on each side of the pond occasionally. It had a pickup for in 2002-2004.

Q3 is dead, held only by some people with QL and that's mostly a shitfest. I suppose there's a small community there - not sure I'd call it active.

Unreal. The only community I've seen for it was their one forum really, but I don't really care about Unreal so it's not like I went looking for it. I know a handful of people play still, I assumed it was similar to QW except with a far worse game.

CS... 1.6 is in a weird place. Last I recall it's kind of a wierd limbo since they got the server lists jacked up. There was a large shit russian community with offline versions and the listings were fairly broken. There's an e-sports community which has been rusting for ages and having issues if I recall. Steam statistics seem to be significantly broken when reporting it. If there was an older game that would be played, it's this one. Unfortunately it was never a good game.

>Never mind, then. Honestly, I just want a time machine to go back to 1999.
You'd have to deal with shit internet again though. The irony of the situation. Amazing connections and shit is worse for playing online these days. I actively thought about renting out a T-1 in 1999 for ~600-700 a month. Nowadays I've got 40/80 for ~70 a month and low ping between 5-20 to general region.
At least my dialup in 99' was pretty good at 80ms/8KBps and clean.

[Anonymous No.1472894]

>>1472891
To demonstrate how bad the whole CS statistics are off. There's this.

[Anonymous No.1472904]

>>1472894
There's a ton of servers like this. It's very possible to find servers with players, but a lot of servers have issues. Assuming you actually cared to play the game.

[Anonymous No.1472905]

>>1472891
Shit, man, I was on 28.8k until 2004, with shit line conditions and 250ms+ ping times.

However, Quake II isn't dead, there are still active servers and a community site: http://tastyspleen.net/quake/servers/list.cgi

The CS 1.6 server list got kind of fixed, though bot servers are still everywhere. I play on a couple of funmaps servers that are almost always populated with real players. Just gotta find good ones.

The Unreal community still exists, and has a site at http://www.oldunreal.com/

UT still has quite a few active servers, and sites. I fucking love UT. BeyondUnreal is one UT site that is still active.

Half-Life still has some active mods, though HLDM is hard to find a server of anymore.

[Anonymous No.1472930]

>>1472905
I'm not sure I'd call that active.
http://q2servers.com/
is probably a more accurate depiction where you can see all those servers with 1 player is wallfly bot, maybe a couple of bots. Then the whole thing is, what twelve servers that might actually have people on them. Varying gameplay modes fragmenting them, a bit less than half on different sides of the world, which may be an issue for some people.

Personally Q2's netcode is bad enough I wouldn't want to put up with it on anything but a LAN, nevermind the poor weapon balance and slow weapon switch to go with it.

Hitting up across the world, I'm lucky to even be able to cross the pond at 80ms. Most of those I hit at 120-200ms.

So yes, there is a community, but imho, it's not the kind of community worth playing in. Let alone useful for the general public.

[Anonymous No.1472934]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIZdQf_EPVA

[Anonymous No.1472940]

Pls post some 90s-00s internet videos too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRjCHj_4oUE

[Anonymous No.1472941]

>>1472905
>The Unreal community still exists, and has a site at http://www.oldunreal.com/

Just because a forum is up and people still visit it, doesn't mean that the general community for the game isn't really dead.

AQ2 forums were still going and the game was pretty much dead as door nail.
It's along the lines of one guy here or on vogons who asks if anyone wants to play Descent online. Sure, you might find someone, and it might be recent but it's not like it's a 'working community.' It's generally a bunch of people chatting who've settled in as their chat board etc... you might occasionally get a game out of it and potentially in a very rare instance any form of modification. It's pretty much just a stagnant situation.

Doom for example, has a working community. There are still people playing it. Modding, mapping for it etc... There's a lot of people surrounding doom. Not just a handful of veterans chatting about the good old days and signing off on how their life is to friends.

[Anonymous No.1472956]

>>1472940
>be their
>swim faggots
>whining women
>internet at a party
>5fps video of blurry closeups of side thigh
>come to church with me
>not using vueprint32 for image viewing
>mothers bitching about porn
>telling everyone in the shower you had to watch porn before practice
>everyone scared of clothing material

They got the title right, everything was terrible.

[Anonymous No.1472967]

>>1472681

>Filefront becomes Gamefront
>Decides, for whatever stupid and yet to be explained reason, to block part of their content to most of Latin America (if not all the spanish-speaking countries) and some other countries in Europe

That, my friends, was the final nail in the coffin for 'em. The fucking site is dead and worthless now. Truly sad.

[Anonymous No.1472998]

>>1472940
Moms on the net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BybbEBOeKM8

[Anonymous No.1473036]

>>1472998
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BybbEBOeKM8&t=1m47s
>rape

[Anonymous No.1473043]

>>1472998
Is that Orlando Bloom?

[Anonymous No.1473048]

>>1472601

[Anonymous No.1473051]

>>1472601
>implying this isn't Matrix the game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhS-7jxBgXQ

[Anonymous No.1473056]

I know for a fact that doom threads will soon be out of /vr/. So tired of seeing this stupid shit reposted dat after day.

[Anonymous No.1473058]

>>1473056
Reminder, this same person targets GCCCX threads. Report his posts on sight.

[Anonymous No.1473061]

>>1473051
I never quite found The Matrix in the same vein as Shadowrun or stuff like that.
It's kind of like Syndicate Wars but more dystopian. Also, I think the sequels to The Matrix made me like the original less by proxy, in some odd manner.

>>1473056
Cool story bro.

[Anonymous No.1473078]

>>1473058
So... why?
Is he literally autistic?

[Anonymous No.1473553]

[Anonymous No.1473551]

>>1472998
I tapped into The Power

[Anonymous No.1475652]

>>1472843
>Fileplanet
I used to hate them because they made you wait in line for files and you had to register to download.

[Anonymous No.1476045]

>>1475652
Every site seemed to do that
>You want to download file?
>Fuck you, cough up shekels or Advertising and slow download

[Anonymous No.1476068]

>>1476045
tfw dialup so limits never meant shit to you

[Anonymous No.1476076]

>>1475652
>>1472843

Never had a single problem with Fileplanet, in fact, I used to go from mods to mods for Half-life one when they were populated.

I wouldn't mind taking up Rocket Crowbar if you faggots want to play some.

[Anonymous No.1476284]

>>1476076
HL1 had an amazing modding community, and tons of great mods.

Too bad they're all dead now.

I really liked Train Hunters/Runaway Train, which was basically a KotH gamemode where the goal was to stay on a moving HL1 tram for as long as possible.

[Anonymous No.1476309]

>>1472891
>>1472941

Except Unreal Tournament still has dozens of active servers at any time. New maps and mods are still released regularly. Check ModDB if you don't believe me.

The original Unreal usually has a couple of servers, but it was meant to be more of a single player experience. New map packs are still made.

Quake II still has TastySpleen, and there are people on at all hours of the night. Usually the DM server has at least 5 or 6 people, and more on the weekends. A new level editor just came out for Quake I and II, as well. Custom content is still made.

This isn't "a handful of veterans"; these games still have real, working communities, albeit small.

[Anonymous No.1477201]

>>1472594
is that sum will ferell 3rd one from the left?

[Anonymous No.1477203]

>>1477201
>will ferell
i mean pharell williams EL OH EL XD

[Anonymous No.1477696]

>>1475652
It made sense at the time because lack of fast internet would mean that it would take forever for some people to download something if they had to share the line with everyone else.

[Anonymous No.1477982]

>>1472940
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hradnkP5bk

[Anonymous No.1480786]

>>1472940
My sides.

[Anonymous No.1480796]

>>1472940
Peter Pan!

[Anonymous No.1481012]

>>1472816
But does anyone still play it?

[Anonymous No.1482571]

>>1477982
>that massive case

Imagine all the stuff you can fit there.

[Anonymous No.1482574]

>>1477982
>dir and spac-
>oops I made a mistake

But.. she didn't do a mistake. Step it up, lady.

[Anonymous No.1482584]

>>1472940
>Steven! Steven wake up!
>w-what..?
>Justin is looking at PORN!

Comedy gold.

[Anonymous No.1482590]

>>1472940
He doesn't even fap, he just watches the porn for the sake of watching it. Maybe he watches it for the plot?

[Anonymous No.1482601]

This needs to be posted again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3qHepWxn-k

[Anonymous No.1482819]

>>1472601
Anon s-sama, would a doom mod more like GITS/Syndicate be ok?


Ive been trying to get started on it...