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>touch enemy in 2D game, automatically hurts you

>touch enemy in 3D game, nothing happens

explain this to me

>> No.1468017
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>>1468013
>touch enemy in 3D game, nothing happens

u wot m8

>> No.1468016

>>1468013
(many) 2D games were meant to be difficult, (many) 3D games are meant to hold your hand through an interactive movie.

>> No.1468020

Bait for 3D vs 2D flamewar. Do not respond.

>> No.1468021
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>>1468013
>>touch enemy in 3D game, nothing happens

u wot m8

>> No.1468018

>>1468013
>touch enemy in 3D game, nothing happens
Which games are you thinking of?
I can't remember a game where this is true.

>> No.1468026

>touch enemy in 2D game, automatically hurts you
abstraction of the enemy attacking you without animation frames

>> No.1468071

>>1468016

but that doesn't answer my question of why an enemy can automatically hurt you by just touching their body

I mean what, are they all poisonous? Does their "evil" emanate from their pores and repulse you?

>> No.1468076

>>1468026

that sounds like laziness to me

>> No.1468083

2D games allow for a complete precision of movement.

>> No.1468116

>>1468076
or hardware limits

>> No.1468130
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>>1468021
I've been playing Sonic games for so long now, especially SA2Battle, but I still can't get over the fact that you lose all the fucking rings everytime you get hit. Imagine you have all 400 rings. you lose your S Rank as well. goddamnit.

also, can I just say how gorgeous the Knuckles and Rouge soundtracks are? I really miss such games that focus more on character themes and stuff.

>> No.1468174

>>1468130
rouge a shit
tails a cutie

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>>1468174
>shitting on mah waifu

Say that to my face and not on the internet and see what happens!!!!

>> No.1468335

>>1468013
It's meant to be an abstraction of the enemy attacking you

Use your imagination

>> No.1468372 [DELETED] 

>>1468013
AHEM

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AHEM

>> No.1468384

>>1468013
>Touch enemy in SM64
>Mario gets hurt
>Touch enemy in Banjo-Kazooie
>Banjo gets hurt
>Touch enemy in DK64
>Donkey/Diddy/Lanky/Tiny/Chunky gets hurt
>Touch enemy in Banjo-Tooie
>Banjo/Kazooie/Mumbo gets hurt

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1468516

>people only citing examples from 3D Nintendo/Sega games

How about using references from good games?

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>>1468516
Not obscure enough for your tastes?

>> No.1468540

It depends on what type of game it is. If it's a platformer, I'd be kind of disappointed if touching an enemy did nothing. If it's a fighting game, the enemy has an unfair advantage (depending on what type of weapons you have) if it automatically hurts you. It has nothing to do with 2D or 3D, although a large group of 3D games tend to be real time fighting based.

>> No.1468785

Implied attack, force of impact, poisonous, etc etc. 2D is a lot about abstraction, too.

>> No.1468815

>touch a human enemy in Metal Slug
>don't instantly die

>> No.1468854

>>1468516
Why do animu characters' eyes and brows float in front of their hair?

>> No.1468873

>>1468854
Pretend hair transparency.

>> No.1468920

>>1468071
It's not poison. It's a kind of evil energy. It's similar to the energy that rearranges everything in a room once you leave it.

>> No.1468936

>Touch enemy in Earthbound, automatically kills the enemy

>> No.1468940

>>1468016
Worst shitpost of the day.

>> No.1468942

>>1468920
>It's a kind of evil energy.
We may ate be able to locate another energy emission from the radar room.

>> No.1468947

>>1468940
So why did you respond?

>> No.1468957

>>1468947
It was bad enough to make me want to.

If it was too generic I'd have ignored it.

>> No.1468959

>>1468936
I never thought about that, but it's almost a subversion of how touching enemies works in platformers. Neat.

>> No.1469028

OP is an idiot

2d platformer: touch an enemy get hurt
3d platformer: touch an enemy get hurt

2d beat em up (final fight): touch an enemy dont get hurt
3d beat em up (dmc): touch an enemy dont get hurt

2d fps: touch an enemy dont get hurt (although he will probably do an attack animation that does hurt you)
3d fps: touch an enemy dont get hurt (although he will probably do an attack animation that does hurt you)

fucking idiot
3d fps: touch an enemy dont get hurt

>> No.1469032

>>1468854
laziness in art.

you see it more in shit anime, wonder why

>> No.1469072

>>1468076
What do you expect? You want them to draw up dozens of extra frames to show the goomba biting you? There was only so much they could show and your imagination had to fill in the rest.

>> No.1469104

>>1468130
>you lose your S Rank as well.

Well, I think getting hit would do that in any game with an S ranking.

>> No.1469113

>>1469104
>Well, I think getting hit would do that in any game with an S ranking.

Naw. Games rank differently

>> No.1469226

>>1469072
Arcade Mario Bros. actually showed the Shellcreepers biting you when you ran into one. Of course, that game had quite a bit of animation per character, more than the norm for 80s platformers.

>> No.1469267

>>1469226
Indeed, it's something that bothers me a little about how running into enemies hurts you in mario games ever since.

>> No.1469286

>>1468013
casuals

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>>1468013
>>touch enemy in 2D game, automatically hurts you
u wot m8

>>1469226
holy shit, nostalgia'd hard there; had completely forgot about that arcade version

>> No.1469670

>>1468013
Its mainly platformers that do the Touch = Hurt. 3D platformers do it aswell.

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>>1468957
so that makes it good, then

>> No.1469918

>>1469028
What the fuck is a 2D FPS?

>> No.1469927

>>1468942
Excuse me, the technical term is "wadar woom."

>> No.1469929

>>1469918
Uses 2D textures and sprites instead of polygon graphics.

>> No.1469949

>>1469104
but that's not really true. In Sanic Generations I think the S Rank is purely about finishing the stage in a certain time.