/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1453852]

Who else thought this game was brilliant?

[Anonymous No.1453878]

I like it.

[Anonymous No.1453886]

>>1453852
It's one of my favorite RPGs. I like the motivation of the final boss. It's pretty unique. Also it has a good atmosphere.

[Anonymous No.1453938]

I prefer II, but III is damn good.

I remember as a good grinding my balls off to beat the horse brothers. Good times.

[Anonymous No.1453952]

>>1453938
I really hope you're referring to the first unwinnable fight with them.

[Anonymous No.1454029]

>>1453952
Of course.

[Anonymous No.1454102]

>>1453952
>>1453938
I remember my asshole friend saying if you beat them you get to keep Teepo and Rei in your party and you get a different story when you get to Wyndia.
Fuckin lies.

[Anonymous No.1454103]

>>1453852
I don't think it's brilliant, but I love it all the same

[Anonymous No.1454196]

>>1453938
I always turned the playstation of immediatly after the fight... the first 5 rounds i thought this would be impossible! Once i made it to the arena i got raped i should try it again one day

[Big Game Hunter !!UCEBArgs7Q5 No.1454228]

I started the game again a few months back and lost interest. It's good on music,characters, and story, but it's SO slow. I love it to death but it could really benefit from faster battles.

Has anyone played the Japanese version? Another complaint is the dialog seems very dry, and I feel like maybe the japanese translation is more interesting. II is famous for it's horrible translation and IV was censored so I really do wonder.

[Anonymous No.1454280]

The story is very underappreciated.

[Anonymous No.1454421]

>first vidya fap

[Anonymous No.1454441]

>>1454228
If you cant concistently beat most battles between 10 - 40 seconds, you've made poor marter training choices.


>>1453886
Right? Almost like you're the bad guy!

This is the only game ever where I can say im the very best (though im sure theres probably a jap guy who is better)

[Anonymous No.1454457]

The dragon genes give this game some serious depth. Also, the various masters you can assign to each character to alter their stats makes leveling each character fun.

It's colorful, has a great soundtrack, a killer story, and the gameplay is ultra tight. I've played tons of RPGs and I recommend this one hardcore—perhaps the most underrated RPG ever!

Someone who hasn't played this masterpiece should try it for the first time and document their experience for us.

[Anonymous No.1454461]

>>1454457
just played it for 10 minutes, it sucks

[Anonymous No.1454470]

>>1454461
thisisbait.jpg

you're in /vr/ fucking act like it or get out.


>>1454457
that feel when you get Eldritch gene

[Anonymous No.1454475]

>>1454470
Well, I think the person who said Breath of Fire 3 sucks is entitled to his or her opinion. I just question if they could give an honest review of the game after only playing it for ten minutes. Could you even past the opening in that amount of time?

Did you ever play Breath of Fire 4? Does it live up to the third game?

[Anonymous No.1454479]

>>1454475
Not him but 4 is my favourite of the series

[Anonymous No.1454478]

>>1454421
I'll never forget that boner
>>1454461
>10 minutes
>not even out of the tutorial
duuuuuuuuuuude
>>1454457
>>1454470
I spent hours fucking around with genes in hope to discover new forms. the only thing I discovered was the Tiamat, and that I should have put more SP on Ryu
>>1454475
BoF4 is the best one for everything apart combat system. story, graphics and music are some of the best I've ever seen

[Anonymous No.1454486]

>>1454478
>>1454479
Yeah, but they really changed up the map in Breath of Fire 4, didn't they? I really liked that open-range feel of the third game. Is Breath of Fire 4 difficult?

[Anonymous No.1454491]

>>1454486
I liked it too, but consider that there are actually more places to visit in 4 and some are damn pretty, like the jungle in the north of the eastern continent
>difficult
>jrpg
come on man...

[Anonymous No.1454496]

This game is so damn pretty to look at. The perfect blend of vibrant colors with somber tone is just perfect. (I wish the Harvest Moon games could have looked more like this!)

[Anonymous No.1454495]

>>1454475
It's not an opinion at all, 10 minutes? this is the kind of shit I would expect to hear from a 12 year old, not someone supposedly old enough to be on a retro game board, let alone 4chan.

[Anonymous No.1454497]

>>1454475
I was kidding.

Like 10 years ago I played 1 and 2 for a while, I didn't think too highly of them honestly. Perhaps I'll give the series another chance at some point.

>>1454491
>>difficult
>>jrpg
some of them can be difficult to figure out, that's when I call an RPG difficult

[Anonymous No.1454507]

>>1453852
I did. I've been thinking about replaying it on the PSP lately.
Also, dat fishing minigame. My uncle used to play only racing and shmup games, he really didn't care about RPGs. However, he got hooked to the fishing minigame - which was a great plus because he would get me tons of great medicine-type/Manillo-exchangeable fish.
I also started IV but never finished it because the disc I borrowed was scratched to hell.

[Anonymous No.1454508]

Which masters do you guys like to use?

[Anonymous No.1454517]

>>1454508

I liked master Bater from Raphala. under him you became rock hard.

[Anonymous No.1454524]

>>1454507
>he would get me tons of great medicine-type/Manillo-exchangeable fish.

Awesome! Did you sell those goods for extra money?

[Anonymous No.1454530]

>>1454524
That, too.
The fish I hoarded the most were the AP restoring type. I never managed to get a full collection, though. That would be a goal in my next replay.

[Anonymous No.1454529]

I always thought it was weird how the portraits were so different from the character sprites.
The original art was not THAT bad...

[Anonymous No.1454531]

>>1454508

Ryu — Bunyan until Level 49, then Giotto

Nina — Emitai

Momo — D'Lonzo

Rei — Bunyan

Garr — Fahl

Peco — Various masters like Meryleep just to learn their skills and give them to others. After which, I put him with Yggdrasil.

[Anonymous No.1454536]

>>1454531
>No mention of Deis for mages or ladon for insane stats at the cost of hp/ap

silly

[Anonymous No.1454538]

>>1454228
What really annoyed me was the slow text display speed. They should've tuned it to allow faster display.

However, it's not a bad translation at all. Compared to II's original one, at least. And it had the Australian Dolphin with optional scene for those who "do not understand Australian".
Shame they censored stuff in IV.

[Anonymous No.1454549]

>>1454529
True. The original art had a certain charm about it. I love the overall art of Breath of Fire. It's kick-ass.

[Anonymous No.1454675]

I wrote a fanfic when I was 12 of me as McNeil chasing that floozie in his mansion. Later on it was mcneil farting in her mouth and her commenting that it smelled like a musty carpet. Also rei, ryu and teepo getting fondled by all the ghosts.

[Anonymous No.1454681]

Definitely not as brilliant as the best game in this series, Breath of Fire 6.

[Anonymous No.1454679]

the music is good and cool and funky. the fishing game is excellent. the characters are super cool (Garr looked really cool)

9/10 game fo sho

[Anonymous No.1454719]

>>1454681
What's with companies making mainline titles MMOs?
I wouldn't be this mad if BOF6 was named "Breath of Fire Online", same thing applies to FF11/14 and DQ10.
I think the new Mana game is also a MMO.

[Anonymous No.1454725]

>>1454441
>Right? Almost like you're the bad guy!
Not quite, more like there are no bad guys. That's how you make a good story... The main villain isn't necessarily a villain, just someone with different beliefs than you. I mean you can even choose to side with her.

[Anonymous No.1454729]

>>1454475
Whereas BoF3's story is more subtle with it's darker themes, 4 is much more in your face with it. Overall not as strong as the third game, but it does some interesting thing and has phenomenal graphics, music and combat (which is way too easy to break tho)

[Anonymous No.1454739]

>>1454719
Don't think BoF6 is a MMO... But a grindan4ever tap-fest for mobiles with microtransactions. At least FFXI/XIV and DQ10 are solid games.

[Anonymous No.1454748]

>>1454507
That reminds me, in high school this jock had a PSP but no games for it and he asked me for recommendations. I don't remember why but I said BoF4, he actually got it and ended up loving it. Surprising considering he barely played video games and had never played an RPG before.

[Anonymous No.1454751]

>>1454748
>BoF3*

[Anonymous No.1454785]

>>1454725
>there are no bad guys

Myria is an irredeemable villain.

[Anonymous No.1454817]

>>1454725
You've basically picked a fight with her and chose to opt for a world no longer under protection. Try not to get all high and mighty on me there buddy.

[Anonymous No.1454862]

>>1454475
How did they fuck up the art style so much?

[Anonymous No.1454871]

>>1454862
What do you mean?

[Anonymous No.1454875]

>>1454871
Compared to the third game the colors are washed out and character models are poorly drawn and lack detail.

[Anonymous No.1454878]

>>1454817
You might have been "under protection", but at some costs... You aren't a villain for wanting to break free of her control.

[Anonymous No.1454883]

>>1454475
a great looking game made awful with filters. why do people do this?? especially on a retro board!?!

[Anonymous No.1454942]

>>1454875
To be fair, that screen is from the PC version. Everything looks messy as hell.

[Anonymous No.1454992]

Breath of Fire 3 was 2/3 of a good game to me.
The whole desert sequence and everything after were just TERRIBLE.
Actually a lot of the dungeons in the game just felt too long and repetitive.
The art was fantastic though and I loved the overworld map. It just seemed like it could use a bit more polish.

[Anonymous No.1455131]

>BoF4
>delicate pastel colors palette
>beautifully soft edged sprites
>"how did they fuck up so much the artstyle"
grow some fucking taste, holy shit

[Anonymous No.1455141]

>>1454992
I liked getting lost in the desert. the only part I agree is that some dungeons were a tad too long.
and myria station was a pretty bad stage. the rest, man I really think that the atmosphere was given by that unpolished, almost nostalgic look

[Anonymous No.1455442]

>>1455131
It's time to get that eye test.

[Anonymous No.1455517]

>>1454942
>>1454875
Yeah, it looked gorgeous in it's native res on my PSP. One of the most stunning PS1 games there is.

[Anonymous No.1455656]

You even had to align the stars in the desert. Biggest and baddest RPG ever.

[Anonymous No.1456064]

>>1455656
When I first played the game way back in the day, I played it in tandem with my older brother, often switching who played or just controlling different chartacters as During combat.

It took us a little under a week of play to get through. We entered boys, but we emerged as men

[Anonymous No.1456124]

I'm actually playing that on my PSP now. I like the music, it's stuck in my head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy7-4Q9ANtg

Any other good JRPG's to recommend? Should I try FFIV and Chrono Trigger? I don't think I'll like FFVII, the 3D graphics look disorientating and the protagonist (Cloud) looks like a douche with an oversized sword.

[Anonymous No.1456136]

>absolutely love the art design of this series and the concept but never got a chance to play any of the games

>got BoF3 for my PSP
>don't like it

>got BoF4 for my PS3
>don't like it

>decided maybe the older ones were better and emulate them
>don't like them either

What makes or breaks a RPG is it's battle system, and while Breath of Fire certainly has a interesting way to battle enemies, it's all extremely slow. They happen so frequently and I just can barely slog through them.

[Anonymous No.1456214]

MEANWHILE IN EUROPE

[Anonymous No.1456224]

>>1456214
Is this a bootleg?

[Anonymous No.1456226]

>>1456224
It's the PAL boxart
Poor guys

[Anonymous No.1456231]

>>1456136
Sounds like you need BoF V, also known as "pretty much not Breath of Fire".

[Anonymous No.1456291]

>>1456214
eurofag here. oh darn, I bet the game sold a lot worse because of that coverart.

[Anonymous No.1456295]

>>1456136
>What makes or breaks a RPG is it's battle system
Actually, it's exploration, sense of adventure, etc. Battles are barely even relevant and are always the weakest part if every jrpg.

[Anonymous No.1456297]

>>1456295
they are the most important thing because it defines the game progression and interaction wise the most.

I don't know what you're talking about. sense of adventure? exploration? you mean those poorly assembled dungeon hallways with a piece of shit chest scattered around carelessly by devs? "sense of adventure" is basically the game's exposition being strong, not much else.

[Anonymous No.1456339]

>>1456295
Battles are pretty fucking relevant when you're in them most of the time. Sense of adventure dies if you can barely walk 5 steps without one.

[Anonymous No.1456353]

>>1454725
Good stories can have obvious villains and heroes, it just needs to be handled well.

[Anonymous No.1456370]

>>1456291
At least you guys were able to get the PSP port out there in English, since Sony of America would not allow it to be brought over for not changing enough from the original game (probably the same thing that happened with Tales of Eternia PSP, which is a bit of a bigger gripe than BoF III out here, since BoF III is a lot more available).

[Anonymous No.1456646]

>>1456136
>>1456339
While playing Breath of Fire three and four, I never had this problem of battles interrupting the adventure every five steps that you mentioned. Of course, I imagine the "every five steps" was an exaggeration to stress your point?

Anyways, I rather liked the battles in Breath of Fire 3. I thought they were nicely animated and sounded great. Battles in BoF3 had plenty of depth to them, because of the various skills you could learn, and ways you could build each character. In fact, the battles of BoF3 were probably the biggest drawing point for me!

Unrelated to your statements, I never liked RPGs were I felt I was "rushing through" the battles so I could "get back" to the game. For me, battles were always such a big part of the RPG experience. And Breath of Fire 3 does them so well.

[Anonymous No.1456650]

there was a BoFIII hard mode patch in the works, dragon trials or some such, but the guy who's doing it is ultra lazy and hasnt gone beyond coding the Nue boss for like...half a year. I need this patch, I can destroy the game utterly around the halfway point.

[Anonymous No.1456654]

>>1456650
>I can destroy the game utterly around the halfway point.

What's your strategy? Which masters do you use?

[Anonymous No.1456910]

>>1456654
Peco under Fahl leading the Attack formation makes random battles a joke. Bosses can easily be taken care of with Last Resort+Super Combo/Shadow Walk.

[Anonymous No.1456915]

>>1456650
there's a patch at that difficulty website there i have it but never played it yet

[Anonymous No.1457172]

I could never make it through the desert. I ended up restarting the game and then lost interest. If I went back now, I'm sure my adult brain could figure it out.

[Anonymous No.1457181]

>>1457172
You should do that. Breath of Fire 3 is an amazing game. Who knows, maybe you'll enjoy the whole game even more now.

[Anonymous No.1457194]

>>1457172
Actually, that's a pretty infamous problem in BOF3. The instructions for navigating the desert that are in your tent? They're WRONG. You need to go back and talk to the dude before that part to get the right directions.

[Anonymous No.1457218]

>>1457194
I never noticed this problem because I always used an online guide for the desert. I wonder if the tent directions being wrong was an error by the programmers?

[Anonymous No.1457221]

>>1456650
First time I played it I thought the master system was so complex so I didn't even use it. When I replayed it later I discovered it was fairly simple and the game got so damn easy.

[Anonymous No.1457225]

>>1457218
Translation error, most likely. The Japanese version gives you the proper directions.

Considering BOF3's translation, that's no surprise. I wish I could find a way to alter the text in the game, and make a proper English version.

[Anonymous No.1457248]

>>1456214
This makes so little sense. Some steel in the background, a terrible 3D render that doesn't look like Nina AT ALL and her feet are on fire. Who looked at this and thought "people will want to buy this!"

[Anonymous No.1457428]

>>1456295
Not always. I know some JRPGs with pretty solid, enjoyable battle systems, to the point that, while the focus is still on characters or story, it doesn't feel like a hassle to get into battles, and can even be fun.

[Anonymous No.1457470]

>>1456136
For some reason I really liked the first two games but couldn't into BoF3 at all and just gave up on the series.

[Anonymous No.1457485]

>>1457248
Uhhh it's supposed to be Myria mate, lol

[Anonymous No.1457691]

>>1457485
Interesting! For some reason, my mind went straight to Princess Nina, too, when I saw the cover. But yeah, maybe you're right. Still a shitty cover, though.

To be honest, the woman on the cover doesn't look like Nina or Myria!

[Anonymous No.1458317]

;_;

[Anonymous No.1458359]

>>1454529

I believe I heard that the sprites were made before the designs were finalized, and they didn't have time to make new ones before they had to put the game out.

I'm not sure what you mean when you talk about the original art, but I believe the art you posted was made for the PSP port, by a different artist.

[Anonymous No.1458491]

BoF3 was my fav because you get see Ryu grow up into a man. Also the open world...& "doesn't this just beat all?"

[Anonymous No.1458509]

>>1458491
But the world map is incredibly restrictive when compared to the first two entries.

[Anonymous No.1458538]

>>1457691
I cant argue with that. Even the cool ntsc cover wouldnt have helped it sell over here in the land of the britbong.
What did sell was Smackdown, fifa, premier manager and medal of honour, oh the huge-manatee!

[Big Game Hunter !!UCEBArgs7Q5 No.1458543]

>>1455656

Turn right ONCE, walk straight forward until you get there.

No idea how to get the hidden stuff like the life armor though.

>learning japanese
>the Japanese word for Camel is "Rakda"
>where have I heard that before...

[Anonymous No.1458720]

I have a weird relationship with BoF games. I love them to death (Except Dragon Quarter. Fuck that game) but I can never beat them. And I don't mean I just die at the last boss I mean I mysteriously lose interest in them at some point after halfway. As such 4 is my favorite because It's the one game I did make to the final boss (and died horribly). 3 is still damn good though, a solid B in my book.

[Anonymous No.1458728]

>>1458720
Can't wait for 6 release
we'll drown in our own tears

[Anonymous No.1458731]

>>1453852
i play this game every two years or so I fucking love everything about it. the character design, the story. Shit man that reveal of what happened to your friend....

[Anonymous No.1458748]

>>1458728
"Oh sweet! There's a 6 finally coming out?"
*googles it*
. . .
.........
I'll stick with Hello Kitty Island Adventure thanks.

[Anonymous No.1458773]

>>1453852
One of the best RPGs ever made. I love this game. Also dat soundtrack.

[Anonymous No.1459158]

>>1458359
What's even weirder is that they changed the character designs to reflect the portraits in that last ending scene.
Looks like Nina changed her clothes just to pose in the cliff.