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>Dont use filters they said
>Filters look like ass they said

Anyway, what are you /vr/gins emulating today?

>> No.1452834

That screen curvature is ridiculous.

>> No.1452837

>>1452830

Is there a flat version of this shader?

>> No.1452839

>>1452834
Agreed. And I think his aspect ratio is wrong?

>> No.1452845
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1452845

>widescreen simulating CRT curvature

>> No.1452847

>>1452839
yeah it's 16:9, not 4:3

>> No.1452850

>>1452839
I'm pretty sure that part is bait.

>> No.1452853

>>1452837

On retroarch Im using one of the crt filters. Interlaced halation pass 2.

Pass 1 and 0 I think are "flatter".

>>1452839

Yes, however I prefer my games make use of my entire monitor. For the exception of some Gen 6 games who get screwed by having HUDs specific to their aspect ratio.

>> No.1452854

>>1452853
But it makes Mario look short and dumpy.

Like, even more so, I mean.

>> No.1452856

>>1452853
>For the exception of some Gen 6 games who get screwed by having HUDs specific to their aspect ratio.

Heaven forbid the HUD gets messed up as opposed to the entire game.

>> No.1452859

>>1452854
>>1452856

It still plays the same

Not like it ruins hitboxes or anything

>> No.1452875
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1452875

>emulating

>> No.1452878

>>1452830
A S P E C T R A T I O

>> No.1452882

>>1452853
Buy a bigger monitor instead of stretching the fuck out of your games, faggot. LCDs are cheap as fuck, you can get a 30" for practically nothing.

>> No.1452887
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1452887

>>1452878

Because wasting my screen real estate with black bars makes a whole lot of sense?

>> No.1452895

>>1452875
ikr

>> No.1452904

>Emulating something as common as Super Mario Bros

I only emulate what I can't possibly afford.

Like Suikoden II.

>> No.1452915
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1452915

>>1452887
So you can't drive a car unless all seats are occupied or use a computer unless the hard drive is full?

>> No.1452918

>>1452904

A chipped PSX is very easy to obtain due to modchips being $9 shipped.

>> No.1452925

>>1452887
"Screen real estate"? What are you, renting your monitor off to advertisers? Are you also annoyed that your monitor doesn't cover your entire eyesight?

>> No.1452928

>>1452915

I brought up 6th gen games because only a small percentage of games are negatively affected by taking them out of their native aspect ratio.

This is really just a difference in preference. And I prefer to make full use of my monitor.

>> No.1452930

>>1452928
>I brought up 6th gen games because only a small percentage of games are negatively affected by taking them out of their native aspect ratio.

That is true. However, 100% of 4:3 games are negatively affected by taking them out of their native ratio. It makes no sense to be annoyed by one little thing but not the other major thing.

>> No.1452938

>>1452904
I dunno, I like to sometimes emulate games I actually own, simply so I can do two things at once. I can play something on one monitor, and watch a movie on the other. Makes grinding and whatnot more bearable.

>> No.1452946
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1452946

>>1452930

In which case I just run them in 4:3 unless there are working widescreen hacks (ie:Windwaker)

I never tried to present 16:9 as superior. People could afford to be less autistic here.

>> No.1452948

>>1452946
>People could afford to be less autistic here.

You really want to say that when you're the one who absolutely must use the entirety of his monitor at all times?

>> No.1452954

>>1452946
>In which case I just run them in 4:3 unless there are working widescreen hacks (ie:Windwaker)

...so you have no problem playing those in 4:3 but not games that have absolutely no way of properly being run in 16:9?

>> No.1452959

Playing Earthbound on Livestream for a friend of mine. He's acting as my personal living Strategy Guide.

Also wondering if I should do it as a thing, maybe for a larger audience: play classic games I missed just for shiggles as well as to immerse myself in retro goodness.

>> No.1452964

>>1452948

>You really want to say that when you're the one who absolutely must use the entirety of his monitor at all times?

No, Im saying that because people are knowingly arguing over preferences as theyre hard fact. Also while completely missing the point of the thread. Not one person has discussed video games so far.

I thought /vr/ wasnt like /v/. Maybe I was wrong?

>> No.1452971

>>1452954

I mean the opposite. If a game absolutely has no way of being run in 16:9, Ill run it in 4:3. Otherwise I use 16:9.

>> No.1452976

>>1452859
But wouldn't it make them wider and shorter, at least in terms of display?

>> No.1452980

>>1452976

Sure. I dont feel it really affects my playing ability though.

>> No.1452982

>>1452964
Don't open your thread with bait like
>Dont use filters they said
>Filters look like ass they said
in the future. Don't pretend that this isn't what you wanted to happen.

>> No.1452983

>>1452971
>If a game absolutely has no way of being run in 16:9

So every game until 6th gen, then...which is the generation you play in 4:3.

>> No.1452995
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1452995

I forgot how fun this game actually was.

>> No.1452996

>>1452830
Stop using filters. They look like ass.

>> No.1453000

>>1452982

But the shitposting in this thread was started over aspect ratio and not filters. People would likely be arguing this as easily if I didnt start with those words.

>>1452983

But those games can be ran in 16:9 through emulation. Im not talking about how they ran natively.

>> No.1453002

>>1453000
>But those games can be ran in 16:9 through emulation. Im not talking about how they ran natively.

There's a huge difference between rendering a game in 16:9 and just stretching a 4:3 image into 16:9.

>> No.1453034

>>1452830
That filter does look extremely shitty actually.

>> No.1453041

>>1452938
>I like to sometimes emulate games I actually own, simply so I can do two things at once. I can play something on one monitor, and watch a movie on the other. Makes grinding and whatnot more bearable.
This is quite possibly the plebbest thing I've ever read on /vr/. People actually do this shit? Get control over your ADHD, jesus christ.

>> No.1453047

>>1453000

>posts an image with horrendous aspect ratio
>pokes the bear about filters
>half-ass throwaway "what're you playing" "topic"
>wonders why thread turned into shit

Saged, hidden, etc. Try again, jackass.

>> No.1453057

>>1453047

>Its your fault I cant refrain from shitposting!

Quite literally the worst argument Ive seen on 4chan

Build some better self control or gb2reddit

>> No.1453061
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1453061

CRT shaders are perfectly fine if you are going the emulation route. Aspect Raidou however, is an abomination.

>> No.1453063

>>1453041
Why are you so upset?

>> No.1453073
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1453073

>>1452830

Curve and rounded edges are completely not needed.

Also the lines are too strong due to non-integer scaling.

You can try to make the "scanlines" (I don't nkow what they are properly called) lighter, so that when used in non-interger it isn't an issue.

I dunno might be too blurry.

Shader download:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/fw8q63ttqaj38iu/crt-geom-flat-sharpness-custom.cg

>> No.1453080

>not playing your video games on a crystal ball like the good old days

>> No.1453081
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1453081

>>1453073

http://www.mediafire.com/download/9u5z6dd6i5fua8y/crt-geom-flat-sharpness-custom.cg

ANother one.

>> No.1453091
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1453091

Glad OP is playing Mario in the 16:9 it was intended in.

I've went ahead and improved some classic movies too.

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1453108

>>1453091

Similarily, you can improve tv shows too.

>> No.1453109

>>1452887
>wasting my screen real estate
LOL

>> No.1453119

>>1453073
>>1453081

As much as I prefer the rounded edges these look very good.

>> No.1453114
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1453114

>>1452887
>>1452830
>>1452887

>16:9
>non-integer crt shader

>> No.1453123

>>1453063
I guess it's upsetting me that people no longer are able to focus on one thing at a time. Even when "having fun" playing games, they need to watch a movie at the same time to not get bored, while making sure to keep the world updated about both activities by posting rapid updates to Twitter, Facebook and Snapchat on their phone and tablet. I am worried about how stupid our society will be by the time I'm an old man.

>> No.1453139

>>1453119

There's a whole shader discussion on EmuGen with other stuff too:

Stars here:
>>>/vg/62036183

>> No.1453162

>>1453123
Multitasking isn't a sign of stupidity, even though I agree about people not having the dedication to put into one thing at a time, especially if they claim it as a hobby. Imo if you hit that point you may as well find a hobby that is more engrossing to you.

>> No.1453165

>>1453123
Well, like I said, it's mainly just to alleviate boredom of mindless grinding in RPGs. I can't do that when I'm playing something that requires full attention, like a platformer or action game.

>posting rapid updates to Twitter, Facebook and Snapchat on their phone and tablet.

I'm not sure where that came from. Anyways, I'm sorry if I ruffled your feathers.

>> No.1453175

>>1453073
damn that looks good

>> No.1453316
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1453316

Yoshi's Island

>> No.1453323

>>1453316
Make it sepia and give it some bitchin light reflections on all the coins. Maybe some grain as well. Then we got gold, son.

>> No.1453352

Why do smoothing filters evoke such extreme irrational hatred?

>> No.1453403

>>1453041
My brother used to play COD all the fucking time, and during loading screens, he would switch to TV. For maybe five seconds. I tried to hang out in his room for five minutes while he was doing this shit until I tried to strangle him.

>> No.1453405

>>1453352
Because they look like shit. Look at how fucked up Baby Mario's nose is in this screenshot up there. There's no way an AUTOMATIC program can replace someone DRAWING that the way they wanted it to look.

The developers knew what the fuck they were doing. Who the fuck are you to tell them it was wrong?

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1453424

>>1453352

>why does making these gorgeous games look like flash games invoke such hatred

>> No.1453425

>>1452830
that looks like ass

>> No.1453461

>>1453041
... if he is doing it on games that require grinding, then it is a completely valid thing to do. Hell I have PCSX2 and PPSSPP set up so they take controller inputs while the window is not active, and browse 4chan while grinding Cave of Ordeals.

>> No.1453463

>>1453316
I actually like how this looks

>> No.1453468
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>> No.1453479
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1453479

>> No.1453484

>>1453479

wat dk is that

>> No.1453485

>>1453479
What the heck

>> No.1453494

You kids have some horrible taste.

Turn your damn ugly, shit filters off and play the game, and stop making your games look like terrible, antique 80s TVs that we hated even back then.

>> No.1453496

>>1453479
>simulated window glare
That's great.

>> No.1453502

>>1453479
You know, I can't wait till 4k monitors become the norm, since we'll actually be able to use real aperture grille filters + scanlines with that, as they'll have that much higher pixel count.

On current 1080p displays I think only 320x240 games can be filtered that way. It's been a while since I did the math.

>> No.1453503

>>1453496
now all that is left is to emulate Cheetos greasy controllers

>> No.1453504

>>1453479
Nevermind the stupid window glare, what the hell is that, some kind of aperture grill filter on a Game Boy? I hope I'm being tricked.

>> No.1453507

>>1453496
>Simulated Windows (TM) glare
fixed that for you

>> No.1453508

phantasy star 2, and pokemon trading card game. just started playing games again, so I might pick up a ds3 for an emulation controller. holy fuck ps2 is difficult.

>> No.1453513

My current computer's a MacBook Pro (don't laugh). I just downloaded OpenEmu's experimental build, which seems to be pretty neat and actually works unlike some of the older emulators that got thrown under the bus when OSX stopped supporting PowerPC apps.

Got the PSX version of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure working fine, but can't seem to get the original JoJo's Venture CPS3 to work on it. Was CPS3 a disk-based system? If so I think I'll need to make a .cue for it to work on OpenEmu and none of the versions I downloaded had that.

OpenEmu's arcade emulation core is MAME, if that helps.

>> No.1453516

>>1453123
god damn i hate facebook, twitter and all that shit.
these are things that try to make ordinary people feel like celebrities because now everyones hanging on everyones every word. everyone who has facebook or twitter thinks their stupid meaningless life is so much more important because of it.
i know, not /vr related.
someone ban me.
it wont be the first time.
fuck you all, 4chan is slowly joining the machine.

>> No.1453519

>>1453352
Some games do look shitty. Try using filters on Yoshi's Island or DK with filters on. About the aspect ratio, man, why would you fucking stretch the image? That's beyond irrational. Just leave the black spaces there and play the fucking game.

>> No.1453824

>>1452854
That's just the aspect ratio...

>> No.1453981
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1453981

>>1453424
>the ridder
>jin kazama
>anonymous guy
>some fucking pony

Some people just want to watch the world burn.

>> No.1453996

I don't think it's worth making a new thread, so I'll ask here, has the Android RetroArch got its shit together?

It seemed really cool, and I even went out and bought a bluetooth controller for my tablet since I was getting big into emulation and old games, but RetroArch was super fucked and nothing (including my new controller) worked. Is it any better now?

I can't seem to get the NEO.emu to work either. I just want to play some fucking games...

>> No.1454010

>>1453123
He never said grinding was having fun. Also it's possible to like a game but hate a specific part of it so he probably likes having something else to do so it won't seem so long and tedious. You need to calm down man.

>> No.1454016

>>1453981
>the riddler

Are you fucking serious?

>> No.1455058

>>1453352

Because everyone and their dog wants "accuracy" in emulation these days thanks to byuu, that includes spewing hate about how "horrible" or "inaccurate" enhancement filters are.

>> No.1455156

>>1453352
Because some filters do look shitty. OP is being extremely autistic. Stretching sucks.

>> No.1455371

>>1452830
That looks cool as fuck. I really need to get into emulating.

>> No.1455606

>>1455371

>16:9

>> No.1455679
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1455679

what's the best NES emulator?

>> No.1456391

>>1453091
To be fair, there's little you could do to actually ruin that mess of a movie.

>> No.1456416

>>1455679
It really depends on how you define "best". puNES is the most accurate.

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>>1453091
>>1453108
>My fucking face when companies actually do this shit
Dragon Ball Z is the freshest example in my mind. Awful.

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1457680

>>1452875

>spending money on 25+ year old games to attempt to recapture a time in your life when you weren't so pathetic

>> No.1457695
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1457695

>>1457664
The new DBZ sets are actually cropped, not stretched, which is actually worse. At least you can fix stretching with your television or monitor's settings. Cropping is irreversable, nevermind the ridiculously over saturation, but that's neither here nor there.

>> No.1457703

>>1457695
The real kick in the balls with DBZ is that they did it twice, and they know how badly received it was the first time.

>> No.1457705

>>1452830
>Anyway, what are you /vr/gins emulating today?

It's /vr/tualboys actually.

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>>1457703
>they know how badly received it was the first time

They do and they don't at the same time. It's very obvious they're sorry about what they did to DBZ in 2007; otherwise we probably never would have gotten the Dragon Boxes as compensation. The thing is when they tried Blu Ray the first time, they had to pretty much re-do the entire remaster process from scratch because the 2007 master was a mess. Only thing is it was a painstaking and expensive process, but very, very obviously done with a lot of love and care. (It paid off in my eyes. The film grain, lack of frame jitter and more accurate to the original cel colors made it far better looking than even the Dragon Boxes in my opinion). It was such an expensive ordeal that they were more or less losing money on it (Partly due to their inexpensive price and the fact that it was just poor timing, coming right off the final Dragon Box and Kai releases), so it had to be discontinued. So basically in order to even have an affordable (to FUNimation) Blu Ray release of DBZ they pretty much were forced to go back to their 2007 remaster (Which, conveniently for them, was scanned at 1080p and downscaled for the DVDs). It's a hell of a lot less expensive to throw something that's already finished onto a Blu Ray and call it a day as opposed to doing an entirely new master. I have a feeling that once this release is over with they're probably going to go back to the Level sets. DBZ releases have been in a really weird good-bad-good-bad pattern since 2006.

Polite sage for not retro games. Or video games in general.

>> No.1458010

>>1453479
>CRT filter
>simulated window glare
>madkatz controller
>bad TV audio, small room reverb and constant high-pitched TV squeal plus ceiling fan noise
>you must let your virtual retard sister play every 10 minutes, simulated via RNG button input
>simulated mom occasionally pesters you to go outside and play with your friends, eat dinner or go to sleep

>> No.1458034

Is it better to emulate SNES games in 6:7 or 4:3?

>> No.1458552

>>1458034
6:7 ? where this comes from now ?

SNES games are meant to be played on 4:3 TV

keep in mind that aspect ratio is not number of pixels per line divided by number of lines unless you are talking of square pixels

>> No.1459957

>>1457695

Dat black crush

>>1457745

I'm glad I bought the Dragon Box sets in 2010 when they were still reasonably priced.

DBZ has so many video games it might as well be video game related.

>> No.1459963

>>1455679

http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Nintendo_Entertainment_System_Emulators#Emulators

It boils down to:

>PuNES
>Nestopia
>Nintendulator

>> No.1459972 [SPOILER] 
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1459972

>emulating

>> No.1459976

Just set up Homebrew Channel on my Wii.

I can now emulate everything fifth gen and lower, and I don't even know where to start, especially for N64, PSone, and Saturn.

Are there any games that run particularly well?

F-Zero X ran smooth as butter, save for some annoying graphical issues.

>> No.1459983

>>1459976

Snatcher for Sega CD.
Desert Bus

>> No.1459996

>>1459976
There's a Saturn emulator for the Wii? Is it any good?

>> No.1459997

Final Fantasy IV (English fan translation of the original version) on Super GNES on a Nook Color running CM7, with the game in 'Portrait' mode, i.e. FFIV on top half of screen, on-screen keypad in bottom half
>maximum-fedora.png

>> No.1460001

>>1459996
>There's a Saturn emulator for the Wii? Is it any good?

15fps

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>>1459996
Just did a little more research, apparently it's slow as fuck.

>>1459983
>desert bus
>mfw googling that game

>> No.1460006

>>1460001
Yeah, that's about what I figured.

>> No.1460293
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1460293

Emulating this on Wii, using my NES controller with it using a Mayflash adapter.

Playing on a CRT Triniton Sony TV to boot.

I actually never played the original and I'm too lazy to burn the 3 discs in CD-R, although I should give my PS1 some love.

It's a rather good demake once properly patched and fixed. And I dig 8-bit Final Fantasy and Dragon Warrior games.

>> No.1460296

>>1459997
I can't even begin to fathom your Power Level.

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1460301

>>1459997 - me again
>mfw ~2 hrs ago, discovered the Sort and Trash commands at bottom of the FFIV item inventory
>mfw, moments ago, discovered that those commands are moveable among item slots within the inventory

>> No.1460468

Anyone having problems with input mapping in the latest build of retroarch for wii? (1.0.0.1 I think) In the previous builds you could cycle through the possible inputs for each button, but the most recent one asks you to press the button in question. For some reason it only recognises input from the nunchuck analogue stick. Any ideas?

>> No.1460502

Do you think that if we could send back a full HD LED monitor back to the 80's, people would try to simulate a bad resolution on it?
I find intriguing how nostalgia can affect people like this.

>> No.1460613

>>1460468
Oh for fucks sake just use SNES9X GX.

>> No.1460938

>>1460613
meee... it has frameskipppiiiiiiiiiiing.. I have no idea what this means concretely, I just wanna play mariioooo but SP told me it was bad and i don't like skipping things , I want accurately hacked emulators

>> No.1461176 [SPOILER] 
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1461176

>>1459957

DBZ is practically everything related.

It's even television/film related

>> No.1461182

>>1458010

>random heavy static from vacuum cleaner interrupting the RFU signal
>vacuum noise

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>>1453352

Besides what >>1453405 said there's also the fact that people lack the basic maturity to invest themselves in older mediums and experience and appreciate the way they were intended to look. It's what got the original Star Wars Trilogy CGI-shitted up to hell and back. It's basically like taking a silver age comic book, scanning it, running it through Photoshop and giving it lens flares and various filters, shopping everyone with artificial anime eyes, and then posting it to exhentai.org because toddler brains can't perceive anything that isn't adjusted automatically to their philistine expectations.

Also, stretching a 4:3 game to 16:9 because OP needs to use "the whole screen" but giving it an obnoxiously exaggerated CRT curve. Seriously, I've seen some shit, but what the fuck? This kind of shit just contributes to ignorance. I bet OP will get bored and then have the misconception that all these games were "ugly and squashed and distorted" back in the day.

>> No.1461216

>>1459972

Not the right board for that spoiler reveal, chub.

>> No.1461243

>>1460613
I've got snes9x gx installed as well, games just seem to run smoother on retroarch.