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Pic related, I picked up a two model 1 Genesis with the "High Definition graphics" label (as well as the version that doesn't have the initial boot screen pre launching a game) for about 20 bucks, spent 7 bucks extra on a/v cables and sonic together just to actually use it.

It's mainly for collection purposes, but I honestly, HONESTLY feel like I'll only ever get 5 games on this system. Everything else looks like shit, and the SNES will always take a shit on Genesis.

I've been a nintendo gamer my whole life, and I have a huge SNES library that I can pick up and play anytime I want because I love those games.

It baffles me that people would even say "Fuck SNES, Genesis is superior11!!11!"

It's really ridiculous, that anyone would say that but it led me to believe that neither console has great games, it's all just nostalgia factor. Am I right? Although through reading I've found that the SNES at least has more JRPGs which is a big thing for me, but still.

What games does the geneshit have? I was most intrigued by the setup of a Sega-CD under the genesis, with a 32x on top. I absolutely love the structure of this machine but I don't know what the fuck games there are to play on this thing. I'd like to morph my genesis into that tank structure but I can't find enough games to give a shit, or warrant the purchase of such expensive add-ons. Unfortunately the only version of Snatcher that's english is on Sega-CD but it's 300 bucks.

>> No.1441074

>>1441068

If you have the model 1 you can mod it for S-Video output. I did that to mine last summer and it looks awesome

>> No.1441080

>>1441074

I'm looking to do RGB actually. I hear it needs to be modded for stereo output though so I'll look into that.

>> No.1441081

>I bought a genesis
>fuck genesis, snes

>> No.1441097

>>1441080

Even better. I didnt have a RGB tv/cabling so I went with s-video.

>stereo output
you can do it two ways. the convoluted way of running a cord out the headphone jack to your stereo. or modding it for red/white jacks in the rear to make it a cleaner appearance.
headphone jack works fine as a quick free method for stereo sound. just make sure the vol slider is at 10 (ie -0db) then adjust your tv/stereo accordingly

>> No.1441108

>>1441068
>It baffles me that people would even say "Fuck SNES, Genesis is superior11!!11!"
I didn't hear anyone say that the last 15 years.

>> No.1441112

>Castlevania Bloodlines
>Contra Hard Corps
>Ghouls 'n Ghosts
>Streets of Rage 1-3
>Sonic 1-3, Sonic and Knuckles
>Ristar
>Rocket Knight Adventures
>Wonder Boy in Monster World
>Vectorman and Vectorman 2
>Ecco the Dolphin
>Phantasy Star II, III, and IV
>Shining Force
>Beyond Oasis
>Shinobi III

There ya go, there's your required reading. Get on it.

>> No.1441113

if you can't find any good games on the megadrive then gaming is not for you.

>> No.1441116

>SNES will always take a shit on Genesis.

enjoy your massive slowdown

>> No.1441118

>>1441112

And Shadow Dancer.

And Gunstar Heroes.

And Kid Chameleon.

And Toejam and Earl.

>> No.1442190

>>1441068
I'm in the same boat OP. I love the design of the Genesis and its related hardware, but there are very few games I have interest in. In my opinion a lot of them just look ugly. The few games I would get are:

M.U.S.H.A.
Contra Hard Corps
Castlevania: Bloodlines
Truxton

Unfortunately they're pretty expensive, thus why I don't own a Genesis.

>> No.1442204

>>1441108

All the people saying that Genesis having more mature games than kiddy SNES, and that Genesis has "blast processing".

>> No.1442213

>>1441116

I'm sure you can get rid of all flickering and slowdown if you emulate the consoles on a PC. Regardless, both the SNES and the Genesis are awesome.

>> No.1442230

>>1441116
Enjoy your washed down pallette, clunky sound and EA games.

>> No.1442236

>>1442204
> Sega does what Nintendon't

I guess they meant calling their console division a failuire and ending up looking as their IPs were used on the rival's consoles?

Back then I laughed so hard when Sonic appeared on the GBA and didn't wsted any chance to rub it on my Sega-lover friends.

>> No.1442337

A lot of the best games on Genesis are dirt cheap, because as you intuited, no one gives a shit about the Genesis. I don't know if two consoles will double the fun, but it might.

I think the Shinobi games and Contra Hard Corps are the must-play action games.

There isn't a *huge* selection of scrolling shooters that are worth your time, but of them I think Bio Hazard Battle and Forgotten Worlds are the best for your money. Biohazard Battle really shows off some great graphical effects and has a sick-n-dirty soundtrack. Forgotten Worlds is classic capcom fun.

But you say you like RPGs, well, Phantasy Star IV is the best hands-down, and Landstalker and Beyond Oasis are excellent Zelda-esque RPGs. All three are cheap (well PS4 is $30 but that's because everyone knows it's awesome).

Decap Attack is a goofy platformer that looks like shit, but it's actually really good. No joke.

A respectable and comprehensive Genesis collection doesn't need much more than ~18 games, imo.

>> No.1442360

>Sega Genesis: $25

>Super Nintendo: $60

What else needs to be said?

>> No.1442372

>tfw I have and enjoy both

>> No.1442381

>>1441108
Well then I'm saying it right now.
Fuck SNES, Genesis is superior11!!11!

bBut seriously, there are so many reasons why the genesis is no where near as bad as people in this thread are claiming. Personally I prefer genesis sound/graphics over the snes, but thats subjective.

After Burner, Alien Soldier, Alisisa Dragoon, Arcus Odyssey, Atomic Runner, Battle Mania, Battletech, both the Battletoads games, beyond oasis, Burning Force, Chiki CHiki boys, chuck rock, comix zone, contra, crusader of centy, cyborg justice, earthworm jim, dragons fury, ecco, el viento, e-swat, exile, final zone, granada, gunstar hero's, king of fighters, land stalker, light crusader, mega bomberman, megaman willy wars, mystical fighter, mercs, new zealand story, outrun, phantasy star series, phelios, rastan saga,

And thats just a handful of the ones off the top of my head.
Add on to that the sega CD, and you've got a far better console than the snes. Yeah its got a lot of FMV games, but really there's nothing wrong with that. Just because its FMV doesn't mean its instantly bad. And the lack of copy protection means that even if it does suck, you're not out anything.

>> No.1442493

>>1441068
>It baffles me that people would even say "Fuck SNES, Genesis is superior11!!11!"

SEGA dropped the price on the Genesis after the SNES launched. As a result, there may or may not have been more kids with a Genesis that their parents acquired at a low price.

>> No.1442828

Wow you guys still hold on to 20+ year old console wars? Kinda pathetic. Regardless, Genesis had much better action beat'em ups and spaceship shooters. SNES had better platformers and RPGs. Having both and loving both is heaven. OP do yourself a favor and unfuck your mindset and get MUSHA, Gunstar Heroes, Comix Zone, Rocket Knight, Truxton, Castlevania Bloodlines, and Shinobi.

>> No.1442829

>>1441080
Plug an RGB cable into the back. Plug an audio cable into the front.

>> No.1442841

>>1441068
>i just bought a genesis
>fuck it though, its a shit system
>snes is superior
>geneshit is dumb
>please help me pick out games for it though guys

Nope. Fuck you, retard.

>> No.1442853

>>1441068
It's the same kind of delusion that makes Nintendo fanboys insist the N64 won 5th gen.

>> No.1443034

>I honestly, HONESTLY feel like I'll only ever get 5 games on this system.
>Everything else looks like shit, and the SNES will always take a shit on Genesis.
>I've been a nintendo gamer my whole life, and I have a huge SNES library that I can pick up and play anytime I want because I love those games.
>It baffles me that people would even say "Fuck SNES, Genesis is superior11!!11!"
>What games does the geneshit have?

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>SNES will always take a shit on Genesis.
>I've been a nintendo gamer my whole life
>It baffles me that people would even say "Fuck SNES, Genesis is superior"

You're a Nintendo fanboy, we get it.

So why even start this thread? Why not just take your SNES to a quiet corner and masturbate furiously for 10-15 minutes?

>> No.1443052

ITT: stop liking what I don't like.

Seriously, /vr/, OP states his preferences, says he's giving another system a real chance, asks for help, and your response is to berate him with accusations of delusions (because apparently the SNES and Genesis debate is still going for some people, muh blast processing) and pointless dick slapping.

>> No.1443056

>>1443052
If he didn't make such a shitty and biased first post then maybe people would take him more seriously.

I've owned both SNES and Genesis and seriously have no preference one way or the other. They both have a wide assortment of games and neither one "shits on" the other.

>> No.1443064

>>1443056

>If he didn't make such a shitty and biased first post then maybe people would take him more seriously.

/thread

>> No.1443093

>>1441068
Troll thread, fucking kill yourself you piece of shit. Nintendo has always sucked ass.

>> No.1443095

>>1443052

nice post - more like nice shitpost douchefuck amirite. i just decided to come to 4Gay for a change but remind me why i should post here? i am used to a well coded website with admin who know what the fuck they are doing, i could easily go post there any day. so i'll probably just stay here for 5 minutes before going back to superior forum software which i have used all my life.

>> No.1443098

>>1442230
>clunky sound
that would be the SNES

>> No.1443112

>>1442360
That Super Nintendo is for hipsters
b-but muh Earthbound

>> No.1443150

>>1441068
Troll thread. Sage and report.

>> No.1444435

>>1443056
>>1443064

Can't believe how stupid both of you are. There's a REASON it's a biased thread. I have NEVER experienced genesis in my life, so what reason would I have to ever make any good comments about it?

>>1443150
Good job, keep trying to increase your post count in an anonymous forum.

>> No.1444441

>>1444435
you must be a blast at parties

>> No.1444446

>>1444435
>I have NEVER experienced genesis in my life, so what reason would I have to ever make any good comments about it?

I never experienced the TG-16 in my life until just a few years ago, but I didn't make threads asking what games there are for the "Turboshit"

>> No.1444447

OP = FAGGOT

>> No.1444448

>>1444441

>parties

Go back to /adv/ you fucking dudebro faggot.

>> No.1444451

>>1444435
truxton

nuff fuckin said. Games like that are the reason people say they prefer the genesis because those games would run at 3fps on the SNES

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>this whole thread

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>>1441112
Add:
Comix Zone
Beavis & Butthead (not the same as SNES)
Crüe Ball
Sonic Spinball
Earthworm Jim 1/2
Klax
Mortal Kombat
NBA Jam
Smash TV
Spider-Man (There are a few, forget which is which)
X-Men
Zombies Ate My Neighbors

I know a bunch of those are on SNES or other systems, but that's just what I could think of from my old collection

>> No.1444468

>>1444435
All you had to say was, "I just got my first Genesis, what are some good games for it?"

You didn't need to go on some rant bashing it and going on about how much better you like the SNES.

>> No.1444472

I've never understood why people like Toejam & Earl, and Gunstar Heroes is just mediocre.

Library-wise, I would say yeah, the Genesis was inferior. Not really by much, but still.

>> No.1444475

>>1444472
>Gunstar Heroes is just mediocre

Funny man.

>> No.1444478

>>1444475
this thread is a containment unit for tryhard cancer

move along

>> No.1444484

>>1444472

>why people like Toejam & Earl

Because jammin'.

>> No.1444485

>>1441068
>snes fanboy
>does not realize all snes ports were shit compared to gen.... ALL. FUCKING. PORTS.

give it time, OP, you'll come around.

>> No.1444507

Play castlevania bloodlines and compare it to 4. Then come back and tell me it doesn't have better sound and gameplay.

>> No.1445627

Thanks for the suggestions.

I want to pick up a CD/32x as well, but I feel I'll only want to play Snatcher and Knuckles Chaotix. Those add-ons don't seem like they did to well eh?

>> No.1445732

>>1445627
The Sega CD has a larger library of worthwhile games, but most of those you are probably better off emulating (or if you have a Sega CD, burning games because it has no copy protection).

32x was a pretty clear cash grab by most accounts.

>> No.1445741

>>1445627

I'm a huge Genesis fan, but the only game I really enjoy on 32x is Virtua Racing Deluxe. If Doom had a better soundtrack I could stand with it.

>> No.1445753

Shining Force 1 and 2 and CD cannot be recommended more highly

>> No.1445762

>>1445732

I won't emulate, but that's interesting... no copy protection? I guess if I can play Snatcher without modding my console (I'd like to buy it but heh, maybe when my revenue stream is much higher).

>>1445753
Yeah I just noticed now that there's a Shining Force on CD, so that's pretty much 2 games on CD I can think of.

>> No.1445840

Just so I don't have to make a new thread.
I got a Genny, with a controller, all the wires, and 19 games for $60.
Was this a good deal? Everything is in great condition.

>> No.1445847

>>1441112
Where is
>Ghostbusters
?

>> No.1445849

>>1441068
>SNES will always take a shit on Genesis

I hate this board.

>> No.1445860

>>1441112
>>1441118
>>1444467
All of that and no mention of Dynamite Headdy?

>> No.1445865

>>1445840

Depends on the software you got with it right? What genesis model was it?

>>1445847
Refrain from suggesting or pondering whether a suggestion of licensed trash exists within this thread pleb.

>> No.1445867

>>1445849
Thanks for stopping by. Hopefully someone will take your place as "guy who bitches that Genesis isn't as well-loved as Super Nintendo" soon.

>> No.1445870

>>1445865
So you're telling me this isn't a good game?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD16vsjeu6s

>> No.1445873

>>1445870

Damn nigga that looks like some Mega Man X shit right there.

>> No.1445879

>>1445865
Model 1

>> No.1445887

>>1445879

Does the back of system have a "FJ846EUSASEGA" or "FJ8USASEGA?"

Does it also have a High Definition Graphics label on the top? I've read that the FJ8USASEGA is inferior because it has some console splash screen before a game launches, rather than a straight boot to the game with the FJ846EUSASEGA.

>> No.1445905

>>1445887
Oh neat.
Mine is the FJ84 model

>> No.1445913

Hey, found a Megadrive II with 9 games in their boxes for 10€ today. Was a pretty cool guy, but he couldn't find the power adapter anymore.

Should I buy a original or got any recommendations?

Planing to get me a Model 1 at some point, does the MD 1 power adapter work with the MD 2?

Can't wait till the package arrives, no idea what games are with it

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>> No.1445935

>>1444446
I never experienced the PC Engine until late last year, and have a blast playing through its library. However just like OP I've yet to have any fun with the Genesis, despite trying out so many of the games you guys recommend.

Maui Mallard seems be better on Sega's console than the SNES, and has better music quality. That's honestly the only positive thing I have to say about the console.

Going to check out Ecco tonight.

>> No.1445940

>>1444507
Did the US Bloodlines release censor anything that was in the JP one? I'm another SNES fanboy trying to decide which version to play so I can loosen my asshole and receive Genesis' love.

>> No.1446009

>>1445940
Blood was recolored and I think some nude statues were clothed.
Several backgrounds were edited, so the corpse-eating crows from the first stages were axed out.

>> No.1446019

>>1446009
You're thinking of the European version.

>> No.1446028

What sort of thread exactly did you expect with a flamebait op like that?

>> No.1446032
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>>1445935

If you're a fanboy you won't like any "rival" game even if it was the exact fucking game with the exact same graphics, sound and controls as the SNES version, or if it was more close to the original arcade game (like Samurai Spirits, for example). You shouldn't even try if you already craved in your mind that Genesis sucks.

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>>1446032
Damn, Genesis version looks rad as all hell.

>> No.1446070

So I found out they had Gunstar Heroes on the PSN, so when I went over to my friend's house (who owned an SNES growing up), I got him to download and play it after a COD Ghosts session. Since the hardware performance debate comes up here some way or another like every other day, I got a kick out of him saying "It's too chaotic."

I think OP is trying way to hard to bury the Genesis and put over the SNES but is still asking some Genesis related questions. I hate to sound like a re-seller boogeyman conspiracy theorist but OP is probably an e-bay re-seller with like 15 copies each of Earthbound and A Link To The Past who wants to unload them for top dollar while at the same time invest in the most highly revered Genesis games right now at a cheap price to sell at a 45%+ gross somewhere down the line.

>> No.1446076

>>1446032
I'm not a fanboy, at least that's what I'd like to believe. I'm from Norway, and during the SNES days wasn't even aware of the Mega Drive's existence. No stores around here stocked it, none of my friends had one, and the only video game magazine sold in regular stores was all about Nintendo with brief sections on arcade and pinball machines. I had no possible reason to develop any negative feelings towards the console as a rival to the one I owned when I didn't even know it was in the race.

It was only after getting on the web years later that I found out about Sega also being in the console manufacturing business, and it made me extremely excited. In my imagination, it was like I had another SNES with a thick library out there waiting for me to play and have fun. I compiled lists of highly recommended pearls, anticipation ever growing as I went along.

Then when I finally got the chance to try out the Mega Drive, I was devastated. My dreams crushed. All hope gone. The graphics generally looked less sophisticated, audio quality was terrible, and the gameplay of most exclusives reminded me of the shovelware SNES cartridges I'd found at the bottom of friends' game boxes.

This how I ended up as I am today. I still keep trying new games on the system, in case one will make me turn around, but so far it's been a futile effort. I don't have this problem with any other console, regardless of the company behind them, so I'm not sure what my problem is. I only wanted to have fun.

PS. The game you posted does indeed look a lot better on the Genesis side, but it doesn't look like a game I'd enjoy on either consider.

>> No.1446083

>>1446076
Did you even try any of the games reccomended in this thread?

>> No.1446082

Genesis is better than SNES because the common design philosophy was closer to that of arcade games. As a JRPG fan you can't be expected to understand this.

>> No.1446090

>>1446076
The SNES hardware was much more expensive and is 2 years newer than the Genesis. What were you expecting? Additionally, it was a hell of a lot easier to write code for, sharing a CPU architecture with a dozen different arcade boards and a dozen more home computers. Everybody and their dog could write 68k code. So they did, so there's a shit-ton of shovelware. Sega also didn't have any cryptographic security - once Accolade shot them down in court, unlicensed developers and development kits were everywhere.

>> No.1446095

>>1446090
>Additionally, it was
*Genesis was

>> No.1446101

>>1446076
Sounds like you have an extreme case of nostalgia goggles for the SNES.

The only thing true in that entire post is that Genesis games often have less sophisticated graphics. This is because a large number of Genesis classics came out before the SNES even existed.

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>everyone listing shitty platformers
>not listing the best game in that generation, let alone the genesis

Ecce, roma surrectum!

>> No.1446114

>>1446076
>graphics generally looked less sophisticated
Higher resolution than SNES

>audio quality was terrible
High quality FM instead of low quality samples

>gameplay of most exclusives
You are probably bad at games

>> No.1446140

Nobody seems to want to point out that the Genesis was the best console for arcade ports compared to the SNES.

>> No.1446152

>>1446140
Arcade ports don't matter unless they improved on the original in some way, eg. Chelnov is better on the Genesis. Midnight Resistance is better too (mostly because of the music), but Midnight Resistance sucks even on arcade because of the framerate.

>> No.1446156

>>1446083
Yes, but not all.

>>1446090
I had no idea the SNES was more expensive, neither that it came out two years later. Information wasn't as easily accessible in those days as it is now. Thanks for the refresher. Your point about the Genesis being easier to code for may very well be a part of the quality problem, but it's not like the SNES was lacking in garbage either.

>>1446101
I do have nostalgia for the SNES, yeah, but why didn't that prohibit me from thoroughly enjoying what I've since been playing on the PC Engine?

>>1446114
>>graphics generally looked less sophisticated
>Higher resolution than SNES
Higher resolution does not necessarily mean sophisticated, though. I really don't like how they were completely reliant on dithering for transparency and color blending, because that only worked with the shittiest TVs and cables.

>>audio quality was terrible
>High quality FM instead of low quality samples
Utilized well by how many games? For releases that didn't have a lot of time and love put into tweaking the synth, you'd have lower quality audio at best and a fart app at worst.

>You are probably bad at games
I'll let you know I'm a certified Above Average Player of videogames.

>> No.1446158

>>1446152
Hard to improve on a game that runs on hardware that's 10x more powerful than the console you have even 5 years after release.

So, you're wrong. Genesis games were closest you could get to the ports and 9 times out of 10 the better version.

>> No.1446165

>>1446158
Completely irrelevant. If the arcade version is better then play the arcade version. Eg. there's no reason to play Strider on the Genesis despite it being a great game and a great port, because it's slightly worse than the arcade version.

>> No.1446172

>>1446156
>I really don't like how they were completely reliant on dithering for transparency and color blending, because that only worked with the shittiest TVs and cables.

It works even with sharp pixels because you interpret the dithering with your own brain. Anybody who grew up with mode 13h DOS games will have no problem doing this. PC-98 games do the same thing and nobody complains about it there.

>> No.1446174

>>1446165
or the fact you can play it with a genesis controller on your TV instead of using emulation that isnt 100% accurate

>> No.1446185

>>1446174
you can play using emulators with whatever controller you like on whatever type of screen you like, and the genesis version will be even less accurate to the arcade version

>> No.1446191

>>1446165
I'm sorry, you're right. We should all just play Strider on our arcade machines. In our rooms. When we were 10.

No, no, no. I'm being too sarcastic. I tell you what, 10 year old you and me can have a slumber party. I say we play some good ol's mortal kombat. Let's jsut walz ourselves down to the arcade at 10 o' clock at night. Our moms would't have any sort of issue with us going downtown, alone. At night.

Now, how much did your mom give you for allowance? 2 bucks? That's a couple games. Bus fare, 50 cents. That leaves us with about 4 games unless we want to walk back. Oh wait, the arcade is closed. Oh wait, we're being mugged and raped in an alley.

IF ONLY THERE WERE A SLIGHTLY INFERIOR VERSION OF THE GAMES WE WANT TO PLAY AT HOME WE'D STILL HAVE OUR ANAL VIRGINITIES!

>> No.1446208

>>1446185
Not everyone here pirates.

Some of us like collecting and playing games regardless of whether or not there's a better verion. A lot of us enjoy the nostalgia, even if there's a better version on the arcade.

>> No.1446220

>>1446191
Again, completely irrelevant to modern times.

>>1446208
Get a better job and buy arcade PCBs. They're not all that much more expensive than console games. And nostalgia has no place in a discussion of which system is best.

>> No.1446224

>>1441068
>I've been a nintendo gamer my whole life, and I have a huge SNES library that I can pick up and play anytime I want because I love those games.

So why the fuck did you buy a Genesis?

>> No.1446231

>>1446208
I don't see why you should feel any worse about downloading a copy of a game that no longer is being offered commercially by the rights holder, instead of lining reseller pockets with the green stuff.

Of course you should feel free to collect if it's something you enjoy, but there's no need to try and take a moral high-ground.

>> No.1446234

>>1446220
Yeah, I want a bunch of loose PCBs sitting around my house. If only I could "get a better job" and then spend my time swapping them out of a Jamma cabinet all day long.

>> No.1446246

>>1446076

>Europe
>Not dominated by the Megadrive

Maximum shiggy.

>> No.1446274

>>1446070

I don't know why you're assuming that.

>> No.1446323

OP, you can't even be bothered to research what is good, and then you make a whiny/flaming post as if we're supposed to agree with you or something? I bought a Genesis only last year and have at least 2 dozen games that are just as good as anything in my SNES collection (which I've had for 20 years). And no, I'm not going to recommend any to you. Hopefully you sell yours off to someone who can appreciate it.

>> No.1446338

>>1446246
Not in the Nordic countries, no. Sega had no presence here.

>> No.1446340

>>1446101
this a lot of genesis classics were out before super nintendo was even a thing so there was nothing really to compare it to.

Also someone else mentioned ghostbusters I will second that as well, the game doesnt have the most impressive graphics or anything but damn is it fun. Its a classic thats just as good as any SNES game even though it might not be as pretty.

>> No.1446518

>>1446274
Because he's fucking stupid

>> No.1446526

These types of arguments give me a laugh. Until the day when I can play SMW on a Genesis or Sonic on the SNES, I will value both systems. I'm not a 5 year old who can only have what his parents gave him for Christmas and who "has to" staunchly defend his game console on the playground so he doesn't feel like he's missing out on something.

>> No.1446614

>>1446526

I like both of them too I just think the genesis is better because I like run n guns and shmups and those are best on the genesis.

Pretty sure most people do like both they just like one better. The reasons the SNES is better always seem to be superficial bullshit too that has nothing to do with the games.

>> No.1447103
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>> No.1447136

I find more weird manchildren like SNES and more normal video game players prefer Genesis. Not even biased but that's what I've seen in my time at working at a video game shop. People who call/buy/ask questions about SNES games are more than likely just kind-of... "that guy". People who buy Genesis are more likely to be older and remind me a lot of Mark from the CGR usually. I have no idea why this is the case. Many other systems have stereotypical fanbases but after serving SNES fans for three years I understand why the games are so expensive and the fans can be so hyperventilating about the console.

I prefer the SNES but then again I am kinda that guy.

>> No.1447143

>>1442204
nobody ever brings up Blast Processing because everybody knows it's a bullshit marketing term that's not relevant now.
in fact, the console war is over and you can all fuck off and play your favorite games from both systems now.

>> No.1447150

>>1442853
Everyone knows the Saturn won 5th gen
FUCK YOU BERNIE STOLAR

>> No.1447209

>>1447143
but
Blast processing was real Sorta.

>> No.1447318

>>1447136
To be honest it's sort of like the dudebro nostalgia that drives masses of college-age stoners to play Smash Bros 64 constantly.

>> No.1447484

>>1444472

TJ&E for the co-op, it's a pretty boring game otherwise

>> No.1447489

>>1447136
for me its more like
>2600: trailer trash, and old people
>NES : nostalgiafags, cant pin to one stereotype
>SNES: random people who just want to buy some old video games, usually in their late 30's, early 40's
>Genesis: gamers who aren't neckbeards, mid to late 20's
>ps1: mexicans
>ps2: trailer trash and mexicans
>xbox: early 20's, wide spectrum of people
>wii: aunt's/uncles and grandparents, note that grandparents doesn't necessarily mean old people
>360: kids (I wish I was joking)
>ps3: niggah's and weaboos, and niggah weaboo's.
>ps4/xbone: thieves and crackheads (literally, not one person has brought one in yet that wasn't stolen)

Dreamcast, Saturn, 5200/7800, WiiU, PSP, gamegear, and gamecube don't sell very much, nor come in often. 3DO, CDi, TG-16, and NeoGeo don't come in at all, as in there hasn't been a game in the store for one of those systems in several years.
Nintendo handheld stuff comes in a fair amount, but never sells, except for DS and 3DS, the former exchanges hands slightly more than GB/C/A (which isn't a lot).
3DS stuff however sells within a few days.


Anyways, the people who buy SNES's are usually 35-45 years old, only just getting into video games (or video games from before the 6th/7th gen), know fuck all about the system, only want it because "it's Nintendo", and sell it back to us (or on Craigslist) about a month later. Also, even when it's not the type of person I just described, they can never tell the difference between NES, SNES, and N64 games.
The Genesis crowd is about 25 years old on average (college student age), knows at least a little about the system itself, own games for other /vr/ consoles or had them growing up. Not /vr/ material though, or at least they dont show it.

Lastly, I've never seen anyone under 15 show interest in genesis. But I always see kids carrying off with snes carts, only to put them down in a different section. The number of times I've had to clean them from the NES and 360 area is insane.

>> No.1447804

>>1446518

>he's

Not sure who you're referring too. That's kinda vague.

>inb4Iwasn'ttalkingaboutOPbutOPisnowStupidForNotInitiallyRealizingItWasn'tHimButtheguythatwasaccusingOPofbeingafilthyniggerreseller

>> No.1447808

>>1447150

The SATURN is apparently SHIT as I've read but HOLY FUCK man. You know, a long ass time ago I got Sonic Mega Collection from a friend for free and I played the shit out of those sonic games (first time ever) and I loved it (I used to jack off to the Rouge the Bat concept art as well).

The biggest thing for me though was watching that fucking Sonic Jam trailer man. Nobody realizes how fucking hard my dick was. I was so mad that that shit was only a trailer with no demo on the disc.

To this day I still cannot wait to play it.

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>>1442230
>clunky sound
As opposed to the sampled wet fart sounds of the SNES?

>> No.1447902

Lotus Turbo Challenge
Lotus 2 RECS
Marble Madness
Columns

>> No.1447943

>>1447136
It's like that with a lot of Nintendo fanboys of different eras. It's especially bad with hard core n64 fanboys. As someone that owns every Nintendo console released in the US and the FC/SFC, it embarrasses me to get lumped in with these tardos. My newfound love of shooters has made me go Sega crazy lately though, and now I'm close to owning all Sega consoles except some parts of the tower of power.

>> No.1448590

>>1447808
it's actually a pretty good system, presuming you can defeat the region lockout and import games from Japan. Or be like me and install a modchip, just so that you can burn gaems.

>> No.1448603

>>1447808

>jacked it to Rogue concept art

Woah Nelly...

>> No.1448612

>>1447819
Honestly, I heard more fart sounds from the FM chip on the Genesis (passed off as cheap music) than I ever did on SNES.

>> No.1448684

Ranger X alone makes 99% of the SNES library look like shit. And it plays pretty sweet as well to boot.

>> No.1448692

>>1447819
>>1448612
Actually, the SNES fails even when it has to produce wet farts. Observe:

Megadrive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ10zbhcAoM

SNES:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLJ-mYJZpDU

Also, Beavis & Butthead on the Megadrive has probably the best sampled sounds out of the entire generation, and half of it are farts and burps.

>> No.1449604

>>1444435
Hey OP, you're a fucking dumbass you know that. You may have fooled retards like >>1445935
but your flame bait isn't logical, it makes you look like an aggressive retard who wasted his own money buying a console you think is shit.

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>>1449604

It's fedorable that you would even think of such a thing.

>> No.1449935

>go on /v/
>daily console wars
>go on /vg/
>daily console wars
>go on /vr/
>daily console wars

>> No.1449936

>>1448684
Ranger X is 30fps garbage. You might as well claim Panorama Cotton is best if you're only judging by screenshots.

>> No.1449994

>>1447489
you got any Amiga cd32 games??

>> No.1450001

>>1441112
I played Vectorman for the first time this morning, I didn't really fancy it. Your characters too big on the screen, so camera work is a chore, simplistic 'shoot everything' gameplay, ugh

I mean it was cool you could shoot up ramps, I guess? Everything just seemed to scream LOOK AT ME IM A GENESIS GAME WOOO, especially level 2, what a pain in the ass

>> No.1450004

>>1444467
>Comix Zone

God-damn! How I miss that game.
You know what? I'm going to play it right now.

>> No.1450021

I don't understand how anyone can think that any Genesis game can beat the Holy Trinity of Mario World, LttP and Super Metroid

>> No.1450034

>>1449936
Have you actually played the damn thing? It's VERY smooth in motion, I couldn't even tell it was 30fps until someone pointed it out with frame advance. Plus it pushes ridiculous big sprites and shit loads of them at the same time. Also, wirefarme 3d cutscenes, awesome music, and pretty varied gameplay for a single platforming shooter game.

>> No.1450045

>>1445870
Looks like a generic licensed game, pretty standard shit here man

>> No.1450067

>>1450021
>Mario World
Inferior to SMB3, cape flying breaks it

>LttP
Best of the three, but inferior to Link's Awakening

>Super Metroid
Good game ruined by painfully slow door/elevator transitions and item fanfares

Better games:
Contra: Hard Corps
Gunstar Heroes
Alien Soldier
Dynamite Headdy
Sonic 3&K
Castlevania Bloodlines
Rocket Knight Adventures

>> No.1450074

>>1441068

Cool console wars thread

Why did you start it here?

>> No.1450075

>>1450034
It's immediately obvious. Maybe you play on a sample-and-hold LCD and you're just used to all motion looking like shit.

>> No.1450084

>>1450021
Those are 3 great games you listed, and it kind of seems like they're the ones that are always brought up as crown jewels of the SNES, but they aren't really comparable to anything on the Genesis. That's not because the genesis doesn't have games that are as good as the ones you listed, far from it. Genesis platformers tend to be faster and. SMW Is a slow paced platformer with the same 3(?) powerups the entire way through. Not that it's bad, I might feel that it gets a bit stale, but those 3 powerups work for it, and it's a very fun platformer. But in the same way the Genesis doesn't have a comparable game, the SNES doesn't have anything I can think of similar to Sonic 2, a much grittier and less "clean" sort of platformer, but it's a game reliant on speed and momentum control instead of collecting powerups, a gameplay mechanic you have to admit is pretty cool. The games are each console's flagship platformer franchise, and though very different, they're both great.
LttP is not my favorite, but is a fairly solid Zelda title, and the closest thing to it on the Genesis would probably be Beyond Oasis, which is a great game in it's own right, but with a very different feel and setting then LttP, and with stronger RPG elements. They're comparable, but only as far as being dungeon exploring action RPGs.
Super Metroid... I can't think of anything comparable at all, but at the same time what does the SNES have that would compare to something like Comix Zone, imo one of the best stylized games ever, or Toejam & Earl, the grandfather of procedural level generation? They're very different systems with different strengths and weaknesses, (JRPGs on the Genesis, slowdown on the SNES, etc etc etc) and if you're only playing one of them and depriving yourself of the other based on a 20-year-old console war, or your own preconceived notions of one system's superiority, then you're just depriving yourself of a lot of great games.

>> No.1450092

>>1450084
*Genesis platformeers tend to be faster and a bit more gritty, not only because that was the image the company wanted but because it better showcased the system's abilities.

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>>1450021
>Holy Trinity
>No Kirby Super Star

>> No.1450428

>>1450034

I've tried it out for the first time and it was very apparent. My eyes can differentiate between 30-60 fps, but that wasn't the only thing. The FPS counter on the bottom left confirmed it for me.

>> No.1450506

>>1441112
>Sonic 1-3, Sonic and Knuckles
>Bloodlines
>SF

having a blast with these already. such cool games.

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don't forget Light Crusader.
was a pretty cool action adventure.

>> No.1450548

>>1442230

>and EA games

>Road Rash
>NHL 94
>Strike series
>General Chaos
>Mutant League games

Will fucking do, buddy.

>> No.1450580

>>1450548
>NHL 94
NHLPA '93 had fights and blood. And it was before one-timers became the only way to score.

>> No.1450667

>>1449927
>2012222
Nice picture OP, but you are on the wrong board, this isn't /soc/

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>>1450021

>Not mentioning Megaman X

>> No.1451180

>>1450548
And don't forget skitchin'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvEooC-rK3Y

>> No.1451189

>>1450249
My nigga.

I'm a genesisfag, but it hurts me when snesfags never put KSS in their "god tier" game list.

>> No.1451192

>>1451189
I dunno, I don't like the sugar high visuals or weird minigames. I played the gameboy and NES games first, and just liked them better.

>> No.1451203

>>1441074

scart cable with headphone jack for strip is the best possible way for both graphics and audio. Audio from the back output is mono for some fucked up reason.

I just got the same model and ordered the scart with headphone cable, controllers, multi tap, AC cable, and scart to component adapter. Can't wait to see how it works.

>> No.1451207

>>1450548

People forget EA used to be good. Or they just didn't know because they're newfag as fuck.

>> No.1451208

Audio* not strip

>> No.1451268

Madden

There, Genesis won.

>> No.1451279

>>1450548
also blades of vengeance and kings fucking bounty a consolized homm game that kicks copius amounts of ass in its genesis form. better than the pc game

>> No.1451290

i picked up a CIB of Punisher recently. its not as good as the arcade version and I kinda wish there was an SNES version. it was a Capcom beat'em up from the 90's for gods sake!

>> No.1451598

>>1449935
Nintenyearold's invaded

>> No.1451860

>>1442213
SNES games tend to break much more frequently than Genesis games with emulator overclocking. Overclocking the emulated CPU fucks with all the synchronization stuff Byuu writes about. Genesis has a simpler design so this is less likely to matter.

>> No.1451896

>>1447489
Genesis was dominated by sports games and thusly jocks and dipshits flooded to the genesis as well. I knew of almost no jocks who didn't rock a genesis for their football/basketball/hockey fix. I've got a few sports games myself left over from cousins who were douchbag jocks too.

Less common but still something was SNES for fighting games. Norms love sports and fighting games. (up until they get thrashed in either, which until they do they will talk shit endlessly, not the fun kind either, the I need an ego boost because I'm a retard kind)

>> No.1451912

Tell me, is this the start of " trolling " on /vr/? Seriously, this feels like a clone /v/ post.

>> No.1451932

>>1451598
That's a pretty ironic post.

>> No.1451934

>>1451932
The joke is they can't really use Sonyponies as an insult because PSX is the only playstation discussion allowed on /vr/. Segafags can fire back as well.

>> No.1452937

>>1451912

OP here, and I'd have to respectfully disagree. I've gathered quite a lot of amazing data in this thread. I've compiled a software list from a lot of the responses and I'm impressed. I've already begun to create my genesis collection. Stop shitposting and leave this thread faggot.

>> No.1452979

The SNES's library shits all over the MegaDrive's.

Actraiser
Super Mario World
Link to the Past
Killer Instinct
Super Metroid
Super Mario RPG
Goof Troop
Chrono Trigger
Yoshi's Island
Earthbound

>> No.1453009

>>1452979
The megadrive library shits all over the super Nintendo

truxton
musha
streets of rage 2
Ghostbusters
mega turrican
fire shark
hellfire
Robocop vs terminator (the good version)
dynamite heddy
Gunstar heroes
general chaos


see how fucking gay you sound when you do this.

>> No.1453043

>>1452979
>listing jrpg's, the worst genre of all time
you already lost your credibility, my son

>> No.1453058

>>1453043

There are plenty of great SNES games that aren't JRPGS.

Final Fight
Mega Man X
Super Punch-Out
Wild Guns
Tetris Attack
Demon's Crest
Contra III
Sim City
Uniracers
Kirby Super Star

>> No.1453261

>>1453058
stop fucking listing sim city already ffs.

Uniracers sucks ass the only reason they managed to pull off that speed is because there is NOTHING on screen.

>> No.1453360

>>1446082
This guy knows what's up.

If you don't like cripplingly hard arcade games, you don't like Genesis.

If you like the SNES better, it's because you suck at games. You are not hardcore enough. Come back when you can beat Contra Hard Corps.

>> No.1453420

>>1446082
>>1453360
The problem with arcade games, for me, is that they lack a certain depth. This has to be done; arcade games are generally made to be more 'pick up and play' games by nature. This is why they don't tend to be lengthy, relying more on multiplayer and short-term re-playability. They also, outside fighters (which are fundamentally as complex as the commands are) rather simplistic in design.

But lemme guess, "BUT YOU CAN'T GO FAST IN SNES GAMES! AND GOING FAST IS WHAT GAMES ARE ALL ABOUT CAUSE IT SHOWS TRUE SKILL AND MAKES YOU EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEEME!!!"

I dunno, I guess I was just the kind who would prefer more to take my time and have stuff to explore while moving more precisely. But I guess this concept is wasted on you cause it's not necessarily 'fast'.

>> No.1453441

>>1453360
>>1453420
Different types of games appeal to different people.

Those who like to have their reflexes and abilities tested go for more arcade style games, while those who are more into exploration and storylines have RPGs and such.

There's nothing wrong with liking either. Don't be little kids who think that one is "better" than the other just because it's different.

>> No.1453768

>>1453441
There isn't, you're right.

I just notice that the Sega fanbase is always quick to denounce SNES games as bad cause they aren't as fast paced.

>> No.1453803

>>1453420
I'd say you first have to define "depth." Saying a blanket statement like "arcade games lack depth" is pretty meaningless.

Part of the appeal of arcade games are skill- and reflex-based gaming, meaning you are often pushed to get very good in a very short amount of time. Something like the Shinobi games do this very well, whereas in a game like Super Mario World this is less an issue because you can save the game and fly over most of the level. Yes, Star Road is tough, but that's after the rest of the game.

It's easier to go back to a game that demands more of you from the start, as opposed to wading through a large chunk of easy beginner's stuff. That's why anyone can jump into the first Zelda on the NES and get cracking, whereas people hesitate whether or not to start up Skyward Sword, because that game takes two hours to get its feet off the ground, figuratively and literally.

"Speed" in this case is an irrelevant misnomer to what is actually the appeal of the good Genesis games. I actually like that most of them are 'beat in one sitting' type games. That's different, and different is good. It forces me to stop being lazy and learn a good game, or quickly realize when a game is just shit.

>> No.1453812

>>1453768
Which is kind of ironic, considering games like Virtua Fighter 3 are known for their slower, paced style.

>> No.1453840

>>1446032
Why was Neo Geo not pictured?

>> No.1453843

>>1449927
>fedorable

I like this word that I've never read before.

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>It's mainly for collection purposes

Man fuck your kind. If you don't actually give a shit about the console then don't buy it just so you can hoard it. If you only wanna play like five games get it on an emulator and leave the console out for people who actually want to own one and play games on it.

>> No.1453861

>thinly veiled spoonfeeding thread
Come on OP, do your research. Along with the Sega CD and 32x the Genesis is a god damn powerhouse.

>> No.1454434

>>1453849

Sigh, this again? Claiming I'm a hoarder? I'm really getting tired of these shitposts.

My 2 genesis consoles just arrived recently, labeled as untested. I don't have any A/V cables to test it yet but I managed to at least power it on and use the headphone port to clarify it'll boot. One of them works (With sonic 2 in it), the other doesn't really boot. Still not definitive enough for me as I'd rather see video first to truly confirm that it's broken (or either of them).

Here's the thing though, I bought them knowing they were untested, and was planning to give one of them to a friend as a reward for fixing the other one (if both of them were broken). If both of them are working, I'm going to give the second one to another friend as a birthday present (Because I know he's a genesis whore). I'm believing it's the scenario where one of them might be broken, while the other works, and if that's the case then I really don't have a use for the broken one, so I'll throw it at my repair friend for free... or I'll ask my repair friend to repair that one and give him the currently working one (I'm sad to say the broken one is the one I really wanted to work).

So now I ask you, how am I a hoarder if I collect? It's not like I collect multiple copies of the same game or console, I've never done that. This is an exception. How could I pass up 2 cheap untested consoles? Think before you fucking post, such wild accusations make you look stupid.

If you read the OP you'd understand that I'm trying to embrace this console for the first time. Even if I end up only liking 5 games because of how potentially stale and shitty the genesis library may be (what I previously though, until I leered at all the suggestions in this thread), it's not like I'd sell it. No way am I selling this shit ever, and I'm never going to sell my retro consoles/games either.

>> No.1454669

>>1451290
>implying all of the Capcom beat'em'ups that came out on the SNES wouldn't have been better on the Genesis

Have you ever tried playing the SNES version of Knights of the Round in co-op? Shit turns into a fucking slideshow at times, and that's on Normal.

>> No.1454705

>>1454669
Everything would've been better with blast processing. Especially Megaman X.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB41AEKP7pI

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>>1454705
Aw shit nigguh

NOW IS TIME TO THE 68000 HEART ON FIRE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGkbO2jcMoI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUwg-n1GgOo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my1vSVle7gs

>> No.1454941

>>1454434
>trying to embrace it with a heavy bias in favour of Nintendo
lel

>> No.1455215

>>1451189
Why would it be? I think the gameplay is tight, and everything just feels so right, but the game is so fucking easy that I never feel like even touching a Kirby game post-initial boot. How do people find Kirby games to be so good? Do they just suck at challenging games, is it the memorable character, the powerups, what? It is so fucking boring.

>> No.1455224

>>1454434
>how am I a hoarder if I collect
>hoarder if I collect

Also, how were you so brainwashed by any bias that you assume that ALL games were shit for any given console?

>> No.1457648

>>1455224

I think you're misunderstand something. I don't collect multiple copies of the anything.