/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1425442]

How come we're not having Heretic/Hexen threads anymore?

I've been meaning to finish Hexen 2 and with the Hammer of Thryrion source port installed the game stops looking so dull, which was probably my biggest gripe with it before, and the OpenGL enhancements that come with it as well as numerous bug fixes really add a lot of flavor and breathe a new life into Hexen 2, while still keeping in tone with the original game. With HoT I could also finally get the music to work by converting the audio tracks on the CD into mp3 files. Great stuff.

[Anonymous No.1426172]

>>1425442
>How come we're not having Heretic/Hexen threads anymore
Because Heretic 2 and Hexen 2 are garbage.

[Anonymous No.1426701]

>>1426172
So we're not having Heretic/Hexen threads because the sequels were garbage?

[Anonymous No.1426713]

Hello /vr/,

I want to find a game my brother and me played when we were young. The problem is that we haven't many hints. The only clues we have are:
- It's a ps1 game
- It's like the game Unholy War (from ps1)
- It has a fighter that is a blue ,man-bird that can fly a little while (it's like falco from starfox or super smash bros melee)

I tried in /r/ and /v/ (didn't know about /vr/). I know this is nearly imposible but maybe someone knows about this game.

[Anonymous No.1426717]

>>1426713
wanted to make a thread sorry

[Anonymous No.1426725]

I was trying to beat Hexen 2, but I stopped on the roman level. The regular spiders I could manage, but the giant ones scare the shit out of me still.
fuck why are there so many giant spiders in an ancient rome-themed world anyway

[Anonymous No.1426729]

Why won't we set up a server for Hexen 2 and try to beat each of the levels?

[Anonymous No.1426825]

>>1426172
>Hexen 2 garbage

casual pleb

[Anonymous No.1427030]

>mfw last thread lasted 2 months and celebrated Xmas and new year

[Anonymous No.1427045]

>>1427030
>mfw no face

[Anonymous No.1427049]

>>1426725
Spiders live everywhere in the world, why wouldn't they be in Rome?

Unless you were expecting something more explicitly Greco-Roman themed like cyclops or something.

[Anonymous No.1427061]

Ohhhhh boy

I fucking love Hexen, but I could never get into the sequel

[Anonymous No.1427323]

I think Hexen may have the hardest puzzles of all time

took me ages to complete

[Anonymous No.1427709]

>Secret areas mandatory to find in order to progress in the game

Why would you do that? Never understood why the developers chose to do this in Hexen 2.

[Anonymous No.1427716]

>>1427323
If with puzzles you mean searching for barely visible buttons in the walls.

[Anonymous No.1429079]

>>1427716
In Hexen 64, I never progressed anywhere because I never was able to figure out that those pillars on the Guardian of Steel were doors. I had to see a video of it being played on PC before I learned that, good stuff

[Anonymous No.1429287]

I take it making maps for Hexen is more difficult than for DOOM due to its hub system?

It's sad there aren't more mods for the game since it really broke some ground.

[Anonymous No.1430098]

Hexen Hubs
1 > 5 > 3 = 4 > 2

[Anonymous No.1430212]

>>1430098
6 > 7 > 2 > 3 > 8 = 4 > 5 > 1

[Anonymous No.1430227]

>>1429287
Probably no more than those newfangled Doom source ports that offer scripting. I'd say it's just because Doom is more popular, and there weren't as many tools for it back in the day.

>>1427716
That describes Hexen II more. Seriously, it is obsessed with hiding tiny buttons.

>>1426729
It'd be Crusaders, Crusaders everywhere. But I'd totally do this.

>>1427049
It has those Medusa things.

[Anonymous No.1430231]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ2qj5UMDgk

Have anyone seen Yahtzee's Hexen playthrough? He's a beast at this game.

[Anonymous No.1430234]

>>1430231
I saw this a few night ago, it's fucking painful to watch. Doesn't help they just talk about Dark Souls the whole video.

[Anonymous No.1430273]

>>1430231
I was expecting a 1 hour speedrun. Not 1 hour of the first hub played slow as hell. Meh.

[Anonymous No.1430283]

Was going to create another one of these but didn't get around to it.

We should really set up Heretic II multiplayer also, it's really fun and weird.

[Anonymous No.1430662]

>>1430234
Yeah what the shit is everyone's obsession with that game?

Every fantasy action game gets compared to it. Even worse is when people say stuff like "Zelda 2 is the Dark Souls of the 80's!"

[Anonymous No.1430675]

Because there's /vr/

[Anonymous No.1430681]

This was one of my first third person games after having largely grown up on RTS and FPS games.

[Anonymous No.1430686]

>>1430283
Heretic II has a coop multiplayer? How does it work? Everyone gets to play as Corvus?

[Anonymous No.1430713]

>>1430686
I think there were different colors and stuff. I can't actually remember.

[Anonymous No.1430740]

>>1430686
I would love to play some heretic 2 coop on really hard

[Anonymous No.1430764]

>>1430740
Armageddon difficulty is just boring. Enemies take too much to kill and dodging them is just a chore.

>>1430662
I have never seen much comparison to the Heretic/Hexen games.

[Anonymous No.1430769]

Did anyone ever manage to use the assassin's hide in shadows ability successfully? You're supposed to become invisible by staying in the shadows and I noticed the skill being activated whenever I enter an area without any light source because my weapons become transparent, but does it actually work?

[Anonymous No.1430774]

>>1430764
ah lame I cant stand when higher difficulty is just turning enemies into bullet sponges. Its not harder its just more tedious

[Anonymous No.1430775]

>>1430769
Does it work? Yes. Do you ever really get to use it? No.

Both of her bonuses are terrible. As stated one doesn't get any practical use and the other is nearly impossible to use (Backstab).

[Anonymous No.1430780]

>>1430234
typical dark souls fanboy.

[Anonymous No.1430843]

>>1430686

There are different skins, but both can play as him as far as I know. Deathmatch is super fun also due to the diversity of weapons/attacks.

Who would be up for it?

[Anonymous No.1430864]

>>1430843
I would im running the no cd cracked version I think its the newest version im pretty sure

[Anonymous No.1430928]

http://www.raven-games.com/vintage/skins/assassin3.html

Is this some kind of a porn mod trying to pass off as a skin tutorial.

[Anonymous No.1430934]

>>1430774
It also greatly increases how much damage you take. If it was just that it'd have been fine. But yeah it's best to play Action difficulty. Adventure is pathetically easy.

>>1430769
No. Her mode of play doesn't work with the game's design at all, at least not for singleplayer. Also there's no point to using anything but the scarab staff once you get it.

[Anonymous No.1431647]

>>1430227
>Crusaders
Anon is not in Kansas anymore

[Anonymous No.1431667]

>>1430769
Backstab is useful for the battle with Death. Tome of Power + Ring of Flight, go right behind his flight path and the fight's over before you know it.
>>1430934
Scarab Staff was garbage against bosses and (strangely enough) destructibles. The Steam version has some patch where it has a massive cooldown so you have to charge it rather than spam.

[Anonymous No.1431680]

>>1431667
>The Steam version...
I never bothered with the Steam version before so I tried this out. Not only does the Steam version's Scarab Staff shoot faster when you spam fire, it also charges quicker.

[Anonymous No.1431741]

>>1431680
Ah, ya I think you're right.
I have 3 versions on my computer lol. The original cd, the Steam version, and a portable compilation package thing. It was the compilation version that had a slower Scarab Staff.
Literally the only games I have on Steam are 4 heretics/hexens, because I could successfully pirate the expansions.

[Anonymous No.1431829]

One of the most common complaints I've seen towards Hexen is the lack of weapons per class and, while overall it has more weapons than most fps' of the 90s, I can't really argue against that. On and off over the years I'd stop and think what could be added and yet I've only ever come up with one idea that felt right; in my head, at least, cause I can't into modding.

Why is coming up with ideas so hard?

[Anonymous No.1431872]

>>1431829
>lack of weapons per class

What are you even talking about

The weapons system was based on what character you chose.

[Anonymous No.1431880]

>>1431872
In Doom, every number key nets you a sick weapon; every game. In Hexen, you get 4 weapons per game, and 1 of them is a missable ultimate weapon.

I don't really care though. The axe is sick and you can still cleave and slash when you go oom.

[Anonymous No.1431890]

>>1431872
It's exactly as it was stated: a lack of weapons per class. As we all know there's a grand total of 12 weapons, 4 for each class, and as the Fighter or Cleric you'll never use your first weapon once you've obtained the second.

Not even complaining about it, just pointing out a common complaint I read about Hexen whenever it's brought up.

[Anonymous No.1431891]

>>1431880

Weren't you referring to Hexen? Nvm.

A weapons system in Doom would have been a pretty rad idea though.

[Anonymous No.1432421]

what's the best way for me to play heretic/hexen? source port?

[Anonymous No.1432438]

>>1432421
Honestly, I'm on Win7 x64 and it runs smooth with just plain ol zDoom. Also came with Strife, which I love.

...when I was 12 and playing it, she was my waifu...fuck you Strife.

[Anonymous No.1432937]

>>1432438
>bad ending
>she's actually The Entity
>good ending
>she isn't

Shit doesn't make sense.

[Anonymous No.1434191]

>>1429079

I used to just run along the walls hammering the open button until I found something, problem was when I found something I would miss it haha

[Anonymous No.1434216]

>>1432937
Yeah I hate it when games do that. Unless the game is explicitly about time travel, a game's endings shouldn't retroactively change history.

[Anonymous No.1435536]

Do monsters in Hexen 2 fight with each other? I've seen them hit accidentally one another, but I don't think I've ever seen a fight break out.

[Anonymous No.1436329]

>>1435536
I don't think Hexen 2 has in-fighting.

[Anonymous No.1436363]

>>1435536
Don't mind me, I'm just testing something.

[Anonymous No.1438420]

>>1425442

I just finished HeXen again, and I fucking love this game. There is nothing else out there that is better at what it does, so I'm just going to play it through again.