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Wii Homebrew questions Anonymous Sat Feb 22 10:51:17 2014 No.1423286 [Reply] [Original]

Hey /vr/

I'm thinking of putting up a wii with homebrew to emulate NES/SNES/N64 etc, but I have a few questions first.

1. I live in EU, and if I buy a PAL Nintendo Wii, does the games run 50Hz on my TV? Is there a way to make them run 60Hz?

2. I have seen a few how-to videos on installing homebrew, and it seems like I need normal SD card (not SDHC) to install it. The max capacity of normal SD seems to be 2gb. After I have installed Homebrew, can I use SDHC card to move emulators and roms to Wii?

3. What controller should I get? Should it be using the Wii's controller port or usb port?

4. Why isn't there Gamecube emulation for wii?

5. Is it true and what it means Black Wii can only install homebrew IOS or something and White one can do something both.. Weird question but I mean the part 05:40 of the video under.

This is the how-to video I watched:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m70dCXkn1CE

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Anonymous Sat Feb 22 11:36:48 2014 No.1423354

1) I guess (not sure) just have a TV with component so it wont even matter? not sure

2)SDHC should be supported and definetly after WILL be supported i used SDHC myself

3) Mayflash snes/nes wii adaptor, all the controllers that plug directly into the wii mote suck shit, this one you use a legit controller and use it to plug into the wiimote. otherwise just use wii/gamecube controller stuff if you have to/want to

4)there is? you need to HAVE gamecube ports on your wii, if you dont, shit outta luck look into Gamma backup loader

5) nintendo fucking hates that people use their shit to pirate, it was a design change after all this wiibrew stuff they put a stop to hardware wise, lookinto making bootmii on a SD card just in case the WORST happens, and since your so green with all of this you NEED IT

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 22 11:38:47 2014 No.1423359 >>1423286 >4. Why isn't there Gamecube emulation for wii? USB Loader.

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Anonymous Sat Feb 22 12:18:54 2014 No.1423416

>>1423354
Thank you for this. Any recommendation on cntroller that could work for snes and n64 so I could buy 4 or 2 of those and not like 2 type A controllers and 2 type B controller? So all the buttons and analog sticks required.

Also what is that IOS even? Can you explain me what is bootmii? What got changed? What I need to do differently if I get black WII?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 22 12:20:53 2014 No.1423420 >>1423359 Ah found guides with this, thank you.

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Anonymous Sat Feb 22 12:28:23 2014 No.1423432
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>>1423416
There are adapters to plug real controllers into the Wiimote or the GameCube ports. Don't take that one Anon's word for it that the Classic controllers are bad though. Most of us find them to be pretty sweet plus.. I mean... look at how similar it is to a SNES controller.

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Anonymous Sat Feb 22 12:35:24 2014 No.1423446

>>1423432
Wait wait wait, these controllers plug to Wii Mote? The one in my picture? So I'm going to need to buy 2-4 wii motes AND retro controllers? or what are these gamecube ports, I can plug the controllers there? is there 4 ports?

Sorry for bad english.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 22 12:37:54 2014 No.1423448 File: 1.82 MB, 2109x1605, Wii_Remote_Image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1423446

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Anonymous Sat Feb 22 12:43:24 2014 No.1423456

>>1423446
If you want four identical controllers, and you're not planning to play multiplayer Wii games (or planning to play multiplayer GameCube games) then you might want to use the GameCube ports. Any way you slice it, you're going to spend more money on the controllers than on the Wii itself if you want four identical ones that work with all your emulators.

Those Wii Classic controllers can be found really cheap right now though, but they do plug into the Wiimote.

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Anonymous Sat Feb 22 12:46:54 2014 No.1423463

>>1423286
>1
The Wii can output in either 50Hz or 60Hz, and homebrew emulators generally let you choose the video mode. Normal Wii games generally run at 60Hz, or give you an option between the two.

>3
Classic Controller, or Classic Controller Pro. You can also buy official SNES controllers.
>>1423446
Assuming you want to play 4-player, yes, you would need 4 wii-motes and 4 retro controllers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 22 12:47:24 2014 No.1423467 >>1423456 because of this, my emulation project got a little pricier.. Can someone answer to > Also what is that IOS even? Can you explain me what is bootmii? What got changed? What I need to do differently if I get black WII?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 22 12:48:24 2014 No.1423470 >>1423463 But does my old CRT PAL TV even display 60Hz?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 22 12:48:54 2014 No.1423472 Is there anyway to plug a usb controller into the wii to play games with? I've got a copycat nes USB controller that I'd love to use instead of the wii one.

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Anonymous Sat Feb 22 12:51:24 2014 No.1423478

>>1423467
Probably the cheapest way to get four identical controllers that will work with all the emulators is to use regular GameCube controllers, although prices have been going up on them lately. Also, they'll be slightly awkward to use for anything other than GameCube games... But not as impossible as using SNES controllers to play N64 or GameCube games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 22 12:53:54 2014 No.1423481 >>1423470 check the label on the back. if it was made in the early 90s then it may not. 60hz has been the standard for years though (fuck yeah dreamcast)

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 22 12:54:54 2014 No.1423482 >>1423472 Nope

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 22 12:56:24 2014 No.1423487 >>1423470 I wouldn't know. If you bought it in the last 15 years, I'd assume it does.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 22 13:06:54 2014 No.1423515 >>1423487 hmm I don't even know how old that TV is... It's Grundig ST 70-782 NIC/TOP Can someone help out and tell if it displays 60Hz Emulations on PAL Wii?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 22 13:11:54 2014 No.1423532 >>1423515 Just use RGB SCART and you won't have to worry about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 22 13:39:54 2014 No.1423585 >>1423532 Thanks for the answers. Only one thing that bothers me is the difference between black and white Wiis.. >Also what is that IOS even? Can you explain me what is bootmii? What got changed? What I need to do differently if I get black WII?

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Anonymous Sat Feb 22 13:50:54 2014 No.1423608

you're way overthinking this dude, just do the bannerbomb thing and load homebrew apps off sd or usb, and the classic controller pro kicks ass, get one. don't worry about ioses unless you wanna do backups, in that case just run and install the d2X one, I think. it's really not that hard, I've been doing it since I was 13 back when there was no homebrew channel and just the twilight hack .elf launchers, and I'm almost 21 now

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Anonymous Sat Feb 22 13:54:54 2014 No.1423613

>>1423608
Okay thanks for this. It's just that a relative of mine has a black nintendo wii bought like 3 or something years ago and I am just unsure if things will work... But I guess they work then. Just a quick question what is the backup of? Backup of the whole system or? games? Nothing to do with saving game progress right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 22 13:56:54 2014 No.1423617 >>1423613 he's talking about running burnt backups of disc-based games

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 22 13:58:55 2014 No.1423621 >>1423617 So does the difference between white and black Wii console even affect me anyhow on emulation?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 22 13:59:54 2014 No.1423625 >>1423621 Some black consoles do not have GameCube ports. That's the most important difference.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 22 14:06:54 2014 No.1423630 >>1423625 is there third party controllers that plug into gamecube ports? I could buy 4 of those then to play any game and I wouldn't need to buy the wii motes?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 22 14:08:54 2014 No.1423632 >>1423630 Yes. There are third party controllers for GameCube as well as adapters to use retro controllers on GameCube.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 22 14:13:54 2014 No.1423640 >>1423632 just wondering why didn't no one mention this when I was wondering about cheap retro controllers for all emulations? Are they pricy then? Names?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 22 14:18:59 2014 No.1423643 >>1423608 you were 13 when twilight princess came out? >2006 was 8 years ago >man i feel old, time to cry

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 22 14:25:30 2014 No.1423660 >>1423640 ah because of course they're all the same gamecube style, that is pretty awkward for other games than gamecube as mentioned.. I was hoping for like classic controller for gamecube port. anyway, all my questions seem answered, thank yous!

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Anonymous Sat Feb 22 14:26:29 2014 No.1423664

>>1423532
>Just use RGB SCART and you won't have to worry about it.
RGB SCART doesn't have anything to do with it being able to display a 60Hz picture. If his television supports 60Hz, he'll be able to get it over any cable. The only reason RGB is usually mentioned alongside "60Hz" is because most mods to make PAL consoles output 60Hz don't replace the oscillator crystal, so they have the wrong color subcarrier. Because RGB cables skip over this, they can display a color image.

>>1423515
Looking at the service manual, there is nothing to imply your television can handle a 60Hz signal. If you have a Wii on hand, you can test to see if your TV accepts a 60Hz signal by going into the settings menu, selecting "screen", then "TV Resolution", and then change it from "50Hz (576i)" to "60Hz (480i)". If it works, your TV can do 60Hz.

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Anonymous Sat Feb 22 14:30:59 2014 No.1423674

>>1423286
>4
Most Wiis prior to the Mini and WiiU are backwards-compatible with GameCube games. However be aware that USB loading them is a pain, you either get DRM (Devolution) or lower game compatibility (Dios Mios (Lite)). I ended up burning games to DVD to run through NeoGamma+cMIOS but there are still a few compatibility issues with that, and it also requires a GameCube memory card.

>5
Older Wiis have a useful bug that lets you modify boot2 without bricking it...
http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Boot1
...and there are advantages to doing this.
http://wiibrew.org/wiki/BootMii

But don't worry too much if it can't, you can still enjoy homebrew without it. Also not all white ones allow you to modify boot2, like mine for example.

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Anonymous Sat Feb 22 14:33:29 2014 No.1423682
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>>1423660
We did but here's a pic of what you're interested in. The prices are a bit high, especially considering buying all the original controllers though.

This one also may have some lag.

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Anonymous Sat Feb 22 14:56:59 2014 No.1423728
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>>1423432
I can recommend the Hori Snes controller as well (if you don't need analogue sticks for your Wii).
I've gotten so used to the Gamecube's button layout so it works perfectly for me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 22 15:05:29 2014 No.1423736 >>1423664 so atleast the wii supports 60hz, even if it's PAL? so if I in future buy other TV I can display 60hz if it supports that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 22 15:07:29 2014 No.1423740 >>1423674 Isn't devolution the only one that can do audio streaming right? Star fox adventures is a great example of what I'm talking about.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 22 15:44:25 2014 No.1423828 >>1423740 https://sites.google.com/site/completesg/backup-launchers/gamecube I'm using the cMIOS option, and yeah no music in Ikaruga. It's quite the mess compared to Wii USB loading.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 22 17:14:37 2014 No.1423990 >>1423682 I have that thing, yes there is lag, but it's not too bad, would rather just use the classic controller