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1416772 No.1416772[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Is this game considered tough or am I just casual scum?

>> No.1416776

I don't think you're casual if you find it tough. Many of the levels require near-perfect timing and precision. It's certainly not easy, and many of the levels take several tries. Definitely harder than Mario, in my opinion.

>> No.1416781

If it's Stop & Go Station in particular that you're stuck with, you can skip most of the level by going left from the starting position.

And yes, the game can be very tricky at times.

>> No.1416791

If you are asking if you should be dying a lot, the answer is yes, that's pretty normal. Especially if you don't know what's coming because you've never played before.

If you can't actually beat the game though, then yeah, you're super casual. I beat it when I was a kid and I'm not even good at video games. What with all the save points and extra lives and whatnot.

>> No.1416795

>>1416781
>If it's Stop & Go Station
Nah I passed that bit, I'm currently at the level 2 levels after you kill the flamingo boss. Getting the timing right on the auto-fire barrels is tricky

>> No.1416798

>>1416795
Oh, well try to take your time. Going too fast will get you killed.

>> No.1416834

>>1416798
Yeah I've noticed I do a lot better if I take things slowly
Do Donkey and Diddy actually play differently? I've noticed that Diddy runs faster but I don't know if thats just my imagination

>> No.1416839

>>1416834
Yes, that's right. Most speedruns and TASes will exclusively use Diddy for that reason. DK is quite clunky in comparison.

There are a few tricks to move even faster such as roll jumping, but you have to be rather good at the game to use it effectively.

>> No.1416851

>>1416791
this.
I'm really bad at platformers, like "can't even beat SMB1-3"-casual, but even I can finish DKC easily. It's not hard, I will never understand why people say it is.

>> No.1416856

>>1416851
I think people say its hard because they often die alot. Its easy after some practice but many give up after dying a few times

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1416862

>>1416839
Thanks
>>1416851
>>1416856
I think I just had some trouble getting used to the controls, things are going more smoothly now

>That feel

>> No.1416874

>>1416856

Well it makes sense to consider it hard if you die a lot. I mean if it takes a lot of tries to beat a level I'd consider it hard.

>> No.1416878

>>1416874
I wouldn't really compare the sort of "dying because DKC has a weird momentum that takes a few minutes to adjust to" to "dying over and over and over and over again in the same place" difficulty like in actually hard platformers. DKC just doesn't have those sorts of checks to see if you've mastered the controls and enemy placement. The only part that tests your reflexes and timing is the barrel gauntlet in the ice world.

>> No.1416898

>>1416878

I think some of the harder levels are the minecart ones, especially the haunted house ones in DKC2. They require very precise jumps especially over the bees.

The level at the end of DKC where you had to collect fuel was also a bitch. Would you consider these hard?

Well, every level of DKC pretty much introduces a gimmick so it takes some time to adjust to it.

What I found really hard was the ghost bird boss in DKC2. Avoiding those eggs was climbing up the ropes was difficult.

>> No.1416910

DKC is the most pedestrian shit ever.

>> No.1417003

I always thought DKC was pretty entry-level platformer. The only part I remember having a problem with was the snow level where flakes are obscuring the screen and there's a chain of like 15 barrels to rocket through. It's not even hard, but if you want to do it super fast and flawless like in the video tape Nintendo Power sent out it'll take you some practice. Otherwise just do it slowly one barrel at a time, there's no time limit so no need to rush.

>> No.1417005
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>>1416910

>pedestrian

Thank you. You gave me a good laugh.

>> No.1417015

>>1416898
The only part of the game that ever made me frustrated was the barrel gauntlet. I don't really see how DKC could be much easier, honestly, other than just making it so you can't lose. I get that some people just aren't good at platformers and "you can't lose" is how games are made these days, but seriously.

>> No.1417034

>>1416772
That level in particular is a bitch.
The ice levels are a bitch too.
And everything after.

>> No.1417318

>>1417034
I'm on dem ice levels now
Shits tough yo

>> No.1417329

DKC is pretty easy in my opinion. Granted, I have played it a fair amount over the years so it is hard for me to remember playing it as an elementary schoolkid for the first time, but I do seem to have a hazy recollection of maybe being disappointed with how easy K. Rool was. I do think though that some of the barrel blast segments are tough, as are a few levels in the ice cap area.

I do think 2 is harder, though.

>> No.1417337

It's challenging, but not so hard that you'll get stuck trying to beat it.

>> No.1417364

It's not too bad; I don't start taking it in the ass until I get to Gorilla Glacier.

>> No.1417412

It isn't hard in the slightest. So yeah, you're probably pretty casual. That isn't necessarily a bad thing though, friend.

>> No.1417420

i'm still too autistic to beat that one minecart level without fucking up a bunch.

>> No.1417439

>>1417420
I really don't see how autism factors in to this.

>> No.1417465

>>1417439
idk its so hard to focus on anything since everything's going so fast for me that my head kinda twitches around when i play it and it ends up fucking me over a bunch of times. i just attributed it to autism because buzzword.

>> No.1417542

There's only one level I had trouble with- That bloody Minecart level. Bleh. Hated that level.

Otherwise, nah, this game pretty easy.

>> No.1417748

If you think the mine levels are hard, wait until you get to the treetop levels.

Candy Kong doesn't even appear until you get to the second half of that region.

>> No.1417759

>>1417748
Most areas are like that. If you complete a bunch of levels and game over before the save point then you have to replay them all.

DKC2 has the save points much earlier in each area, while DKC3 doesn't prevent you from backtracking to a previous save point.

>> No.1417808 [DELETED] 

Casual scum, like 99% of this douchebag board.

>> No.1417849

>>1417748
Two levels in and you can fly to a previous save point, though.

>> No.1417884

It's not the hardest game, and a lot of it is not artificial difficulty, but no, you are not casual scum.

Basically, DKC SNES games are the peak of Rare's performance ability, and are able to be hard, but also fun.

I keep fucking dying on that fuel level in Chimp Caverns

>> No.1417909 [DELETED] 

It's easy you fucking faggots.

Why are you all so utterly shit at video games?

>> No.1418021

>>1417318
tough but beautiful

>> No.1418070

>>1416772

this level was nightmare fuel when i was a kid

>> No.1418072 [DELETED] 

>>1417034
>That level in particular is a bitch.
It's funny 'cause I just started a replay of this game after god knows how many years (and the original I only played through once when I borrowed it from a friend, though I did own DKC2) and ran through that level on my first try. Fucking piss. I hate how shitty all of you are video games. It's fucking ridiculous. I hate that plebs like you are voicing your shitty opinions all over this board. You suck at the only thin you consider yourself to be a connoisseur and opinion of authority in. God you're ass.

>> No.1418082

>>1416772
git gud faget

but honestly the game can be difficult in spots, but there's plenty of save points. I wouldn't call it a tough game at all, but are you casual for finding in tough? nah, assuming you're not really into platformers.

>> No.1418556

DKC is not that hard. I beat it the first week I got it, and I didn't even play the hell out of it. DKC 2 is a bit harder, especially when you get to the ghost-forest-place, but it has more convenient save points so idk.

>> No.1418560

The DKC Trilogy was widely known as being very challenging.

>> No.1419338

OP you need to try again

>> No.1419359

>>1416772
>minecart levels
>that tread platform where you have to collect gas cans

Fuck you game

>> No.1419363

>>1416834
>Unaware of the gameplay differences between Diddy and Donkey
That's what makes you a casual.

>> No.1419369

>>1418560
>The DKC Trilogy was widely known as being very challenging.

um no it wasn't. please stop speaking out of your ass.

>> No.1419374

>>1418560
i will give you "challenging", but "very" is uncalled for

>> No.1419378

>>1418560
The game mocks itself for being so easy and casual compared to older games

>> No.1419380

I think the hardest thing I can remember from the DK series was the later sections in DKC2's Animal Antics level.

>> No.1419379

>>1419359
I found that, in the platform levels, Diddy (or who ever you Weren't playing as. Which for me was usually Diddy) would float above the platform when it lowered, and go below it when the platform rose. There was one point where I'd get hit, and then instead of getting my second chance, the other character would just fall through the platform.
There were some other annoying bugs on those levels, too.

The game was amazing, but those two levels were just terrible. Nonetheless, no level pissed me off more than the Minecart level.

>> No.1419418

>>1416772

It's a game with shit loads of "gotcha" moments in the level design, so I wouldn't worry if you die often since it seems to be made out of an utter contempt for the person playing it to cause that to happen.

Seriously, what the fuck was the point of hiding an enemy behind the finish line on one of the levels? That's shit I'd expect from a fucking romhack.

>> No.1419450

>>1416772
your just a fucking casual!

>> No.1419471

>the minecart level
>not the most fun part of the game and really easy

Are you naggers for real? And I don't just mean the minecart part. I mean the game in general. Are there games on the SNES that are easier than DKC? I seriously can't think of any.

>> No.1419484

I think it's pretty hard. Finished it just a few weeks ago.

For me it's Ninja Gaiden level but longer and there're far more gimmicks you need to adjust to. Granted, Ninja Gaiden is pretty easy except for the last act but I still think DKC is a hard game.

If we consider DKC easy I don't really know what's hard anymore because I played a shitton of NES games and don't consider many harder than DKC.

>> No.1419504

>>1419484
How about Super Ghouls and Ghosts, and, if you wanted a less obvious selection, The Jungle Book? I could never even beat the snake boss. He takes a trillion hits and shoots homing missiles constantly. All the bosses in DKC take like 3 hits and attack rarely. The Empire Strikes back is like that, too, with bosses with a trillion health. I'm just going on games I actually own, too.

I've beaten DKC, I never beat any of those (though I beat the other two star wars, even the first one that doesn't have passwords).

>> No.1419513

>>1419504
I'm not saying that DKC is the hardest game ever, not even close to it. It's not even unfair. But saying that it is easy is going too far in my opinion. It's a challenging platformer and a good game, that's all I'm saying.

>> No.1421719

The Ice levels are cunts

>> No.1422361

2 is harder. dat final parrot race.

>> No.1424646

One thing I never got was why did they call this game 3D? What the fuck? It's not 3D at all.

>> No.1424783

>>1424646
The pre rendered graphics were made using 3D software? I could be wrong I'm just guessing

>> No.1425114

>>1424783
You're right.
Also, the platforms you stood on were kind of vague, you know? Like with SMB, Sonic or Megaman you just saw the sides of walls but with DKC you saw the floor too, making it look a bit more 3D. Maybe it was that too.

Oh, and this game's easy as fuck. Get your shit together OP.

>> No.1425397

>>1419471

>enjoying the minecart stages

From what neuroses do you suffer? Seriously though, I think Super Mario World is much easier than the DKC games.

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>>1419471

This guy knows what's up, the minecart levels were fun as fuck.

>> No.1425408

>>1425397
I've always had a much easier time with the jump physics in the DKC games than in Mario games.

>> No.1425623

>>1425114
>Also, the platforms you stood on were kind of vague
This is one of the main things that fucks me up

>> No.1426027

the Lost World in DKC2 was troublesome, but I don't really remember any hard parts in DKC1

>> No.1426085

Snow Barrel Blast is by far the toughest part of the game.

DKC2 is tougher overall, but with factors like Dixie's hovering and Diddy's air cartwheeling, the regular stages are no problem. The gimmicky ones kind of suck though.

>> No.1426896

>>1426085
>Snow Barrel Blast is by far the toughest part of the game.
Yes. Jesus fucking christ this level is hard.

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>>1425623
>This is one of the main things that fucks me up
I agree, the graphics are so "floaty" and turbid that it is sometimes hard to see what is platform and what is not. It's more clear cut in NES games.

>> No.1426913

>>1426085
>>1426896

Concur.

DKC isn't that tough, but it's not like it's Sonic tier easy.

>> No.1427081

>>1416772
It's definitely an easy game by retro standards. Lots of fun though.

>> No.1427084

>>1416795
Oh man, wait till you get to the snowy blizzard level. Easily the most difficult part in the game.

>> No.1427275

>>1416772
A bit of both. The first one is fairly easy, including stop and go. The second one is a bit trickier in the later levels.

>> No.1427283

>>1417465
that's the opposite of autism, anon. they hyperfocus one one thing and blend everything else out, like rainman.

>> No.1427286

>>1417748
What? Treetop levels are some of the easiest and most fun levels in the whole game.

>> No.1427312

3 is the hardest.

>> No.1427332

>>1427275
I think the stage I hate most in 2 is the one where you have to use the blue parrot to avoid the zingers. It's not even that hard, just so damn tedious.

>> No.1428724

>>1427084
I've passed it anon
Not without dat shortcut though

>> No.1429179

>>1427286
Timing the barrel shots used to piss me off.