CONTROLLER THREAD LOL

[Anonymous No.1367734]

Just ordered
>this http://www.amazon.com/Buffalo-Classic-Gamepad-Digital-Rapid/dp/B000TW9AFU/ref=sr_1_cc_3?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1390884924&sr=1-3-catcorr&keywords=famicom+buffalo
bad boy, expected to arrive by Ferbruary.
What controllers do you use, /vr/?

>pic related, my favorite emu for when I'm not recording for my YouTube channel

[Anonymous No.1367738]

Oh I also bought this because I'm autistic
http://www.amazon.com/Buffalo-Classic-USB-Gamepad-PC/dp/B002B9XB0E/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_1

[Anonymous No.1367753]

Is there any good USB saturn controller?

I can't find any information other than people telling other people to buy the ones that are impossible to find now

[RetroOP !fi//J6nhSo No.1367756]

>>1367753
Well, I've seen Saturns + one controller online for like $40, so you could do that and buy a usb adapter. I normally don't trust USB controllers, but these two I ordered are actually licensed by Nintendo (So cool!), so I'm confident.

>Only using a trip to show that I'm OP

[Anonymous No.1367804]

I recently had the chance to get my hands on NES/SNES and N64 controller again. damn, they didn't age well. all these uncomfy lines and overall imprecise/spongy feel.

really love the classic controller. it feels like a refined modern version

[RetroOP !fi//J6nhSo No.1368353]

>>1367804
Man, I love this controller to death. My only gripes are L and R (Not analog, but travel like they are), and my Mayflash adapter being screwy. I don't know Jack about circuits, so I'm letting the adapter sit in a drawer before I try to fix it.

[Anonymous No.1368362]

>>1367753
I got a playsega one, it's kind of cheap and after I dropped it the shoulder buttons didnt wokr as well (they are fine now though). it's fine really

[Anonymous No.1368372]

>>1368353
you should get a classic controller pro. the joy stick are alittle better and the L and R buttons are fixed too also the tiny secondary L and R buttons are behind the front set like a ps3 controller.. I have this and a wii classic controller adapter. It's my favorite set up, much better then when I was using a xbox 360 controller.

[RetroOP !fi//J6nhSo No.1368421]

>>1368372
I have the CC and the CC Pro, I'm just a faggot purist who can't handle the handles
PUNNY

[Anonymous No.1368467]

>>1367756
I am curious to know if anyone has done this. I have a (real) Saturn controller and would like to use it on my PC.

[Anonymous No.1368567]

>>1367756
>I normally don't trust USB controllers, but these two I ordered are actually licensed by Nintendo (So cool!), so I'm confident.
>licensed
Nope. Buffalo's controllers are 100% unofficial.

With that said, they are very good replicas and easily recommendable. I've got three myself, plan on picking up a few more soon so I have spares to give out to friends.

[Anonymous No.1368606]

>>1367804
>SNES controller didn't age well
>really love the classic controller

[Anonymous No.1368632]

>>1367804

so "he got his hands on" an nes, a snes, and an n64 controller? Why didn't he specifically say so? Why did he say: 'nes/snes' as if they were a single thing? It sounds suspiciously like he didn't actually have any of those things, and is just mentally comparing stuff.

The controllers were all quite different from each other. One was a very tiny box that had two buttons, one was larger, and for many games was intended to be fully palmed. N64 was even more different, being too massive to hold any single way, and was definitely intended to be completely grasped rather than typed like a keyboard.

The SNES is generally considered to be the best of all handheld controllers, assuming you don't include normal Saturn controllers when playing fighting games. This is for it's sheer durability more so than it's notable quality, and has been true for about 20 years, and nothing in recent memory has changed this basic truth. It has always been the gold standard for USB connections to PCs, which have, of course, become so common that we don't even consider it unusual to connect a console controller to a computer anymore.

The only essential caveat is the appearance of chasecam console games that require an 'analog controller.' These are not strictly retro of course, but the passage of time has slowly aged them to the point that you might actually need or want the little thumbstick controllers. For those types, I have no knowledge, I would assume it was some playstation variant. But for digital inputs, the snes controller remains the favorite.

I wish that I had bought about 10 of them when they were still being sold in stores.

[Anonymous No.1368659]

>>1368606

I never use my regular classic controller anymore after I got the gold classic controller when I bought Goldeneye.

[Anonymous No.1368745]

>>1367753
I've found that a Nintendo 64 controller works pretty well, since it also has 6 buttons

[RetroOP !fi//J6nhSo No.1368790]

>>1368606
To be fair, the CC is fatter and wider than the SNES Pad, I think that the CC was designed for adults and the SNESPad for kids

[RetroOP !fi//J6nhSo No.1368796]

>>1368632
I would say that the perfect balance that is brought up here is the original Classic Controller. You would have to rewire it or buy an adapter, but it really is a SNES pad with analog sticks and psuedo-triggers

[RetroOP !fi//J6nhSo No.1368819]

>>1368567
I'm like
100%
That Buffalo got Nintendo to license the design

[Anonymous No.1368824]

Ordered this a day or two ago

[Anonymous No.1368997]

>>1368819
>100%
Show the sources for your claim stating that these controllers are licensed by Nintendo, then. Can't? Thought so, bud.

It doesn't make them any more official just because they look and feel similar and you want them to be. Nintendo would never license a third party to make clone controllers for PCs anyway, when their main purpose is input when playing emulated Nintendo games.

As general life advice for the future I'd suggest to shut up instead of obnoxiously and persistently clinging on to baseless statements while proclaiming them to be the truth. It'll make you seem a lot less stupid if you just hold your tongue.

[RetroOP !fi//J6nhSo No.1369054]

>>1368997

>This much smug
Here's my sauce. Seems a wee bit fishy that two "review" sources would say the same thing when it isn't true.
Who knows, maybe the website states that itself. I dunno, I can't read Japanese
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGOpO59DKPQ

[RetroOP !fi//J6nhSo No.1369060]

>>1368997
And might I add
I clarified in >>1368819 that I meant that Buffalo got the design license from Nintendo, which is different than Nintendo licensing the product

[Anonymous No.1369138]

>>1367734
How unfortunate. My condolences. I'll say a prayer for you.
>>1367738
That's better

>>1367753
Yes. An Astro City with USB conversion. That's the only one.

>>1368467
Yes. They work fine. I've heard people complain about lag but I never bought a shitty adapter so can only comment on the good ones.

>>1369054
>youtube wanabe who claims he heard it's licensed
>proof
>sounds legit.

[RetroOP !fi//J6nhSo No.1369139]

>>1369138
I also put a tinyurl as an image, anon-kun
Two sources from wholesome-looking guys sounds pretty good to me

[Anonymous No.1369163]

>>1368997
Some people are just too stupid and stubborn to take good advice when it's offered.

[Anonymous No.1369169]

>>1368997
>>1369163
>>1368819
>>1369054
>>1369060
>All of this circlejerking

[Anonymous No.1369181]

>>1369054
I do read Japanese and am inclined to say those two probably pulled it straight out of their butts. Neither the packaging nor the website has any mention of licensing the design from Nintendo, and the controllers have generic names not referring to any trademark. Feel free to check it out for yourself:

BSGP801xx (SFC style)
http://buffalo.jp/products/catalog/supply/input/gamepad/wire/bsgp801/

BGCFC801xxx (FC style)
http://buffalo.jp/products/catalog/supply/input/gamepad/wire/bgc-fc801/

PS. I was aiming more for being Smaug honestly

[RetroOP !fi//J6nhSo No.1369198]

>>1369181
*frenchman shrug*
I suppose I can't argue with that if I don't read Japanese myself

[Anonymous No.1369251]

Keyboard master race.

[RetroOP !fi//J6nhSo No.1369297]

>>1369251
You know, this is how I played the Megaman games for so long, and now playing them with a controller feels less pleasant to me. I guess because firing is quicker when your finger is positioned like you're typing.

[Anonymous No.1369352]

>>1367753
Why is the Saturn controller deemed so magnificent? The sliding D-Pad seems like it would get in the way all the damn time unless you were trying to pull off silly diagonals and shit in fighting games

[Anonymous No.1369360]

>>1369297
Same. And not just firing, just about any in-game action is performed more efficiently. If it doesn't use analog input, it can be played better on a keyboard.

I play with dash, jump and shoot mapped to A, S and D respectively. My ring, middle and index fingers rest on those keys. I can input any combination of those commands at any time.

It's objectively superior to a SNES pad. It's almost cheating. A pad either requires you to do thumb gymnastics in order to dash jump and shoot, or it requires you to map dash and shoot to shoulder buttons, which is a rather uncomfortable workaround in my opinion.

[RetroOP !fi//J6nhSo No.1369425]

>>1369360
I know that "as the developers intended you to experience the game" is to /vr/ what fedoras are to atheists, but considering that the controls for the games were made for a pad, that really is the way the devs intended the game to be played. Now that I have the CCPro adapter (and soon the Famicom controllers) I only play Megaman with a controller. I don't like re-mapping because MUH AUTHENTICITY. Shit, I'm buying two controllers that are the exact same, save the casing of the circuits, for authenticity (autistic, I know). The only times I re-mapped anything were with emulating the Famicom, making the mic button be X, and when mapping GBA games to use 4 face buttons. A good example would be Ultimate Spider-Man, as the whole 2 face-buttons thing made the devs map kick as L, and that would be a goshdang sin on anything with more than 2 face buttons

[Anonymous No.1369430]

>>1369425
Well, I agree that authenticity is a valid reason for preferring controllers. Indeed, a keyboard is not an authentic input method for pretty much all retro systems but the personal computers.

[RetroOP !fi//J6nhSo No.1369442]

>>1369430
I know the idea is retarded but that post got me thinking
Does that mean that using old emulators with keyboard controls means you're playing a game with a keyboard the "right" way?
Like if I used the first release of Nesticle, would the argument that I'm trying to re-experience the game as the emulator devs intended me to be fly with /vr/?
It would certainly be a silly argument, but I'm just shooting shit here.

[Anonymous No.1369450]

>>1369442
Certainly.

One of the great things of being able to emulate games on a superior platform is the great many things it enables you to do that are well and beyond the original capabilities of the original system.

>save states
>rewind
>filters
>movie recording
>netplay
>rom introspection
>sprite viewers
>music players
>debuggers
>rom hacking tools

And of course, the remapping of buttons to any kind of keyboard or controller layout you feel most comfortable with.

All of this is designed and baked into emulators for one reason: it improves upon the original experience in previously unimaginable ways, giving new life to it.

[Anonymous No.1369451]

>>1368824
oh man I want one of these really bad.
>>1369352
what do you mean by sliding? it doesn't slide.
>>1367753
I bought a RetroLink USB pad recently for fightan gaems, and I have been very pleased except the shoulder buttons feel too clicky for me and I wish it had a select button.

[RetroOP !fi//J6nhSo No.1369467]

>>1369450
Woh, I think you just made me realize that for the first time in 5 years of emulation
What I meant though was that eventually people are going to get nostalgic for old, imprecise emulators, so if 4Chan stays as collectively retarded as it has for the past 8 years, then pretty soon people will be arguing over which "retro" emulator is the best.
I hope that never happens
I really fucking hope that never happens

>music players
Fo' shizzle? As in being able to listen to the music in a game from the emulator? If so, what emulators support this? As was spoiler'd in the title, I'm a faggot with a YouTube channel and downloading tracks from retro games takes a surprisingly long amount of time.

[Anonymous No.1369474]

>>1369467

>Fo' shizzle? As in being able to listen to the music in a game from the emulator? If so, what emulators support this?

Honestly, don't bother. Get Foobar2000 and check out the components: http://www.foobar2000.org/components

There's a ton of supported systems and the centralization makes it easier to keep a music collection going. Also, Foobar2000 makes ripping songs very very easy. Once you get a setup going, you're going to be really happy.

[Anonymous No.1369478]

>>1369442
Amusing idea, although not one that bothers me.

I play all games with keyboard. After 25 years of mastering keyboard skills and having acquired a collection of high-quality keyboards, I have no desire to play with anything else. I played Quake with keyboard aiming although I'll admit I found mouse better when I tried it.

Also, it annoys me when I play a game like Metal Slug with a joystick/joypad and accidentally stand up while trying to crawl forwards.

[Anonymous No.1369494]

>>1369467
Well, some people do get nostalgic for ZSNES, as retarded as that notion is.

But yeah, it's a console on its own right. Some rom hacks depend on it.

[Anonymous No.1369497]

>>1369467
>>1369474

And while emulators already have the sound engines required to play game audio, I second you on foobar2000.

>>1369478
I admit I simply cannot aim with a keyboard comfortably. It will simply never replace the mouse for me.

But it is master race for movement, though.

[Anonymous No.1369576]

I put the guts of a USB keyboard inside a snes controller, the only problem is that I had to kill a lot of the reinforcements inside the controller so it has no integrity, button presses aren't reliable, the dpad feels like shit, and the left trigger got mapped to Super, so if you're using windows using left trigger presses the windows button and interrupts gameplay (can disable but still)
so I just ordered >>1367738, if you're a marketer, congratulations.
I rarely play games anymore even if im NEET but snes controllers are bretty gud

[RetroOP !fi//J6nhSo No.1369594]

>>1369474
Oh, well I meant finding some way to extract an mp3 from a rom or something like that. Unless Foobar2k does that too & I've just missed it...

[Anonymous No.1369613]

>>1369594
I can't say anything about f2k. but with how expansive it's is with different modules, but there are several add-ons to Winamp that emulate only the sound chip portion of different consoles, allowing it to play music from files ripped straight from the game. I can't see foobar not having comparative ones.

[RetroOP !fi//J6nhSo No.1369648]

>>1369576
I'm not a marketer, but I'm glad that you have a solution to your controller problems. I'm real sorry about the outcome of your ambitious project, though.
>>1369613
I dunno man. It would just be cool if emulators let you listen to vidya music w/o having game sfx in there so I could take audacity and record from stereo mix instead of downloading individual songs from YouTube. I've resorted to bringing my laptop to Starbucks and downloading them from there (I'm a student, so I don't look out of place and the place is closeby. I try not to buy anything from Starbucks though, what with it's ridiculous prices).

[Anonymous No.1369662]

>>1369648
>I dunno man. It would just be cool if emulators let you listen to vidya music w/o having game sfx in there so I could take audacity and record from stereo mix instead of downloading individual songs from YouTube.
That's what these modules do, it's a direct 1:1 version of the music from the game. No sfx or anything.

SNES OSTs
http://snesmusic.org/v2/

Genesis/MD
http://project2612.org/

[Anonymous No.1369701]

>>1367734
>What controllers do you use, /vr/?
PS2 controller with USB adapter and Microsoft Precision pro

[Anonymous No.1369718]

>>1369478
>accidentally stand up
Use a better joystick. Problem solved.

>>1369497
>master race for movement
Not for everything. Games designed to use an analog controller for movement are best with that. Using a keyboard for those is as retarded as using a controller to aim in an FPS.

[Anonymous No.1369754]

>>1369718
Yeah. I said as much in >>1369360.

[Anonymous No.1370006]

>>1369754
Sorry. Forgot about that post when replying to the last one.

[RetroOP !fi//J6nhSo No.1370056]

>>1369701
>Microsoft Precision pro
>Dat XTREME boxart text
The box screams '90's
And I ain't knocking that
'Cause I like that.

[Anonymous No.1370151]

>>1367734
blec gross op, don't order those off Amazon. they charge you $9 shipping and it costs $6 more than if you bought it off their own website. they also have a place to order off eBay for $20 altogether instead of Amazon's $24. the famicom themed NES controllers are cheaper too.

[Anonymous No.1370158]

>>1370151
ah yes the one you ordered in fact! its a USB 1.1 device whereas the SNES controllers are USB 2.0, which greatly effects the input speed*. Those ones look beautiful but I opted for the SNES controller.

*USB 1.1 can achieve 12Mb/s transfer rates while 2.2 can theoretically achieve up to 480Mb/s

[RetroOP !fi//J6nhSo No.1370176]

>>1370151
Well, I bought it for *less* than that along with the SNES one already, so that ship has sailed
>>1370158
I don't think that will be a problem for such a simple input device. If I really can't deal with it, I can just buy another SNES one and swap the boards

[Anonymous No.1370191]

>>1370176
Well the speed is negligible. Its just always something I like to note.

I avoid Amazon now though. Bought a SNES controller from their website for $12 and only $5 shipping so I don't feel like I'm getting conned.

[RetroOP !fi//J6nhSo No.1370196]

>>1370151
Well, I bought it for *less* than that along with the SNES one already, so that ship has sailed
>>1370158
I don't think that will be a problem for such a simple input device. If I really can't deal with it, I can just buy another SNES one and swap the boards

[RetroOP !fi//J6nhSo No.1370221]

>>1370191
Any particular reason why you avoid Amazon? The place is wholesome and junk, I'd say it's just about the closest thing to browsing through a real store online without the website actually being Tesco or something.
Except there are reviews and stuff
yeah

[Anonymous No.1370232]

>>1370221
Maybe its the wrong choice of words. If I find something nice, I look for it in other places. My beef is with the grossly jacked up shipping, but I did find some nice lamps there. It's kinda like Walmart I guess?

[Anonymous No.1370238]

>>1370232
(plus the fact that the FamiControllers are twice their original price on Amazon is dumb)

[RetroOP !fi//J6nhSo No.1370250]

>>1370232
Ah, I see. I guess I'm not as open because I don't have credit cards. I can buy Visa cards, but Amazon Cards are just too convenient for me right now.

[Anonymous No.1370260]

>>1370250
Consider using PayPal/eBay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/160866531593
Much cheaper. Plus I think they have PayPal giftcards or something? Might be eBay tthat has those.

[RetroOP !fi//J6nhSo No.1370271]

>>1370260
Yeah, I looked into Paypal, but that requires a bank account or a credit card. No credit card, and I'm a student, so I don't have a bank account for spending money or something like that. I suppose the inconvenience of buying cards instead of using a Paypal helps with that not spending money thing. It's been something like 5 months since I've bought something "frivolous" online

[Anonymous No.1372776]

>>1368824
that looks nice.

how does that dpad feel?

I have a ngpc and was instantly sold on that style of dpad.

[Anonymous No.1372791]

One of these with a USB adapter.

That's when I choose to emulate. I play on the original hardware whenever possible.

[Anonymous No.1373436]

>>1370271
>No credit card, and I'm a student
All of a sudden it all makes sense.

[Anonymous No.1373440]

The NES controller is so damn comfy. I know it's square but it's small size and lightweight make it ultra awesome.

[Anonymous No.1373446]

>>1373440
>it is small size and lightweight

My fnigners ples
Sorry for the eye cancer

[RetroOP !fi//J6nhSo No.1373618]

>>1373446
As with the Famicom controller, it's meant for kids to not wrap their hands around. I think I have some condition where my fingertips are perpetually cold, so something like the NES controller isn't... comfortable... to grasp whole-handed, but when you let your palm come away from the controller, using it is a breeze.
Perhaps my scientific diagram might help explain things.

[Anonymous No.1373661]

I saw this tv on craigslist. Says it's a working 36 inch Sony Triniton. They are selling it for $15. I cant tell what model it is, but is it worth it?

[Anonymous No.1373662]

>>1373661
shiiit meant to make a new thread

[Anonymous No.1373789]

>>1373662
put it in the CRT thead, don't make your own

>>1365003

[Anonymous No.1374039]

I have used a Logitech Precision for the last 10 years and it has been the best controller for emulation I have ever used.

I have used it on Windows, Mac OS X, and different flavors of Linux with no problems. It is more compatible than any of my other USB controllers and adapters. It also has the best d pad I have used in years. It is so comfy for shmups. I found it for 10 bucks on a whim at a Gamestop.

It's muh babeh!

[Anonymous No.1374076]

>>1374039
MY NIGGU

i've use a Logitech dual action for the last 7 years, these things are perfect size, durable and precise,a good invest of your money,
the only bad thing is they ain't cheap

[Aquafresh No.1374341]

I got those same logitech controllers. Picked them up on newegg years ago for 6 bucks a pop plus shipping. Good investment. 5 years later and they're still kicking. Only wish they had turbo switches for turbografx emulation

[RetroOP !fi//J6nhSo No.1375209]

Hot damn, this controller is amazing.
I've been playing Ninja Gaiden for 20 minutes and I see 0 negatives with this controller
Passed the SNES test with flying colors, too, but I think that the sticker's "x & y" buttons should be switched to match with the SNES layout
Eh
This controller still makes me super hard though
9.9/10 would buy again

[RetroOP !fi//J6nhSo No.1375214]

>>1375209
>What is remembering to post the image

[Anonymous No.1375264]

>>1374039
that dpad looks like it would be hell to play on. How is it?

[Anonymous No.1375283]

This with a ps2 to ps3 adapter for your pc is amazing. No delay and I get to use my favorite controller.

[Anonymous No.1375302]

I'll be getting this in the mail.

Hopefully it's as comfy and Genesis-y as it looks.

[Anonymous No.1377759]

>>1375302
>Button positioning
>comfy