Dragon Quest Thread

[Anonymous No.1340570]

Here lies Erdrick.

[Anonymous No.1340615]

His name was LOTO.

[Anonymous No.1340645]

>>1340615
ROTO.

[Anonymous No.1341036]

>>1340645
>>1340615
ロトだ。 この阿呆たち。

[Anonymous No.1341043]

>>1340615
>His

[Anonymous No.1341048]

>>1341036
無礼者は。

[Anonymous No.1341217]

>that feel when DQII and having to grind multiple characters from LV1

[Anonymous No.1341239]

For those of you who played both the original PSX and 3DS remake of 7, how would you compare them?
7 is the only DQ I missed (obviously not including X), I was going to wait for the 3DS one, but yeah...

[Anonymous No.1341251]

>>1341239
I would say it probably depends on your opinion of Dragon Quest 9. If you didn't like 9 or you massively prefer the way the older games play, then you probably would prefer the PSX version over the 3DS one. If you liked 9, then you might like the 3DS version better than the PSX.

[Anonymous No.1341284]

[Anonymous No.1341292]

Erdrick a shit.

[Anonymous No.1341331]

>>1341284
Why the hell are Final Fantasy and Chrono Trigger even there?

[Anonymous No.1341332]

>>1341331
Because most of us Dragon Quest fans like also like Chrono Trigger and some of the Final Fantasy games.

[Anonymous No.1341337]

>>1341332
Okay, but if you're going to go that far then you might as well put all of them on there, instead of just having a random mishmash.

[Anonymous No.1341347]

My personal favorite rankings:

1. DQ3
2. DQ4
3. DQ5
4. DQ1
5. DQ6
6. DQ2
7. DQ7
8. DQ9
9. DQ8

[Anonymous No.1341352]

>playing Dragon Quest 5 in the original moon on the Super Famicom with this controller while eating Pocky with a loli

[Anonymous No.1341359]

>>1341347
You like 8 less than the mess that is 9? How come? 8 is not the best DQ, but it has THE best graphics, music and atmosphere.

[Anonymous No.1341360]

>>1341352
Women > lolis

And is that thing even comfortable? It looks like shelf porn: Something that you own just to own. Like the RE4 chainsaw controller...though this one looks actually usable.

[Anonymous No.1341361]

>>1341043
I actually always love starting my characters as females for some reason. So yeah R/Loto was a girl in my game.
>>1341217
Just 2 others. And I never felt it was horrible. As long as she just defends until she's level 3 (which shouldn't take you long at all) and have her heal you guys until the next town you shouldn't have any trouble.
>>1341239
>>1341251
I heard the 3DS "fixes" the beginning so it doesn't make 3 hours to fight your first slime. I mostly heard that it plays the same but it's a much "faster" game. Instead of 140 hours it will take 90. But that's just what I've heard. I have a PSX copy but waiting for the 3DS to come over here. Squeenix has names we just need conformation on it.
>>1341284
I felt the lack of a party chat really hurt 4. I didn't really understand how big of a different it made until I played 5. And 6 has always been the black sheep of the Dragon Quest family.
>>1341331
Guessing because they are all Squeenix games. Why FF7 and Swords is there (since all the rest are DS games) I have no clue.
>>1341347
To me
DQ 3
DQ 5
DQ 4 (Prefer the NES over the DS)
DQ 8
DQ 1
DQ 6
DQ 2

I never played 7 nor 9. And since no one is playing 9 I feel I would never get the full feeling of transfer maps and such. So what didn't you like about 8? Felt it was a fun game. Not great but I felt it did it's part and the 3D environment still looks wonderful.

[Anonymous No.1341364]

>>1341361
>I heard the 3DS "fixes" the beginning so it doesn't make 3 hours to fight your first slime.

Not that guy, but that's all I needed to hear.

Come on, NA release.

[Anonymous No.1341367]

>>1341364
The huge adventure section in DQVII where there are no encounters is still full of gameplay. If you imagine it like a giant story-centric prologue, it's not so. It's a puzzle-intense dungeon crawl, actually.

[Anonymous No.1341374]

>>1341347
For me it's

4 > 7 > 3 > 5 > 1 > 6 > 2 > 8 > 9

>>1341361
>I felt the lack of a party chat really hurt 4
Yeah, that was disappointing it was removed in western verisons.

>Instead of 140 hours it will take 90
My first playthrough of 7 was only 95 hours. The game is certainly long for a Dragon Quest game, but it's not that bad and the long beginning didn't bother me so much. It was actually fun, imo. Knowing optimal class building certainly cuts down on the time, though, since my second playthrough was 72 hours.

[Anonymous No.1341386]

>>1341374
I tend to switch 5 and 4 around because I loved them both. And she is one of the biggest selling points to me. Alena is one of the best characters in the whole series. At least that's just my opinion on the subject.

As for 7 I never played it yet as I already said. But I was just talking about what seem like normal play time to some people. Something I always wanted to know. Is there a way to max all the classes in DQ7?

[Anonymous No.1341391]

>>1341374
I'm guess you played them in Japanese (you used the term western version which is what I'm basing my guess on). What is it about 8 that the Japanese doesn't like about it?

[Anonymous No.1341397]

Haven't played DQ3 in almost a decade now.. Thinking about replaying again.

Does the SFC port have Grand Dragon and all of the extra content that was thrown in the GBC one?

Also, which team setup will be most ideal for Grand Dragon completion? I was thinking either warrior/sage/sage or warrior/fighter/sage

[Anonymous No.1341398]

>Own DQ I,II,III,VI,VIII, and IX
>have only even played VI,VIII, and IX
>have only beaten VIII
fuck why is my backlog so huge

[Anonymous No.1341402]

>>1341397
Only the GBC has the bonus stuff I believe.

[Anonymous No.1341404]

>>1341386
There is, but you'll be spending a lot of time maxing out all the classes and I never got any levels in any of the monster classes. Maxing out all classes has never been something I've ever done in any RPG.

>>1341391
I don't speak or read Japanese nor I have played them through in Japanese, with the exception of the Japanese PSX version of DQ4. I'm just aware that party chat was in the Japanese version on Dragon Quest 4 for PSX and DS. In fact, the Japanese DS ROM has partial English, Spanish, German, French, and Italian translations already on it, and you can use an Action Replay or a DS Flash Cart to play the game in those translations. The most interesting thing is that none of the party chat is translated, and the game will instead throw out line numbers as place holders for non-existent text. I have a theory that we didn't get Party Chat in DQ4DS because those lines were not already translated for Squeenix America and they decided to be lazy and just cut it.

>>1341398
Don't feel so bad. I have Lunar 1 and 2 (Sega CD and PSX), Grandia 1 and 2, Persona 2: Eternal Sin, Phantasy Star 3, 4, and CD, Soul Blazer, Illusion of Gaia, Terranigma, Breath of Fire 1 though 4, and quite a few other RPG's I own in my backlog.

[Anonymous No.1341407]

>>1341404
mine's not quite that bad, but other than the DQ games I do have SMT: Nocturne, Persona 4, Chrono Cross, Resonance of fate, Lufia II, Jade Cocoon 2, Final Fantasy Adventure, Kingdom Hearts 2, and some other random obscure pS2 rpgs in my backlog. I also recently got a bunch of RPGs I used have so I really want to replay them

[Anonymous No.1341410]

>>1341404
Lunar 1 and 2 are fantastic games. Never played Grandia 1 or 2 but I just can stand the voice acting to really play it. As for persona I say play the PSP since they had to cut out stuff in the PSX version. I personally stand by that Phantasy Star 3 isn't bad. It's not great but it's not bad. 4 is amazing in every way and you should play it. Soul Blazer Trilogy are wonderful and have fun when you get to them. Never played Breath of Fire 3 or 4 but I enjoyed 1 and 2. Very basic RPG but still fun.
Sorry for the non Dragon Quest talk.

[Anonymous No.1341454]

>>1341048
日本語できないヤツは黙ってろ

[Anonymous No.1341459]

>>1341454
Silent guy who cannot Japan Japanese

I love you auto translate.

[Anonymous No.1341579]

>>1341337
Chrono trigger has 2 of the three as major contributors.

Although hori gets no love for ct.

[Anonymous No.1341581]

Is there a pen and paper system that closely follows dqs ?

[Anonymous No.1341595]

>>1341581
Something like this?

http://www.dragon-warrior.com/Fan-Made_Games/Dice_RPG/

[Anonymous No.1341601]

>Playing the DQ series in order and near the end of 2
>Reach Hargon's Castle
>Power outage
>Last save was right before that volcanic cave.

Why does the game spam with with tons of battle near the end of the game? It's not fair ;_;

[Anonymous No.1341620]

>>1341601
Dq2 is pure hell.

Hori must have laughed his ass off people would grind it put. Also a fucking 64000 $ fur coat?

[Anonymous No.1341621]

>>1341581
There's a fanmade Mahoujin Guruguru TRPG, and Guruguru itself is pretty heavily inspired by DQ.
http://jn.swee.to/angle/articles/trpg/

You could probably coax a lot of DQ out of Sword World as well.

[Anonymous No.1341665]

>>1341601
I had to go 3 times to the shrine before the castle because I kept running into those blue flame guys who cast defeat. And those fucking Golden Apes who cast sacrifice. Of all the Dragon Quest games I played (1-5 and 8) I have to say 2 is the only one I could never play again. Too much grinding (way more then any other Dragon Quest game) and too any bitchy enemies. Even the GBC which lessens the grinding and makes the green prince (forgot what place he's from) is still a bitch and a half to play.

[Anonymous No.1342113]

>>1341398
Same.
Expect I've never played nor owned VI, and my copies of I, II, and III are for the Famicom...

[Anonymous No.1342130]

>start new game on any dragon quest
>get through opening
>get completely destroyed by first dungeon
does this happen to anyone else? whenever i play dragon quest games I always have to grind a little to make it through the early sections or i just get my ass handed to me

[Anonymous No.1342364]

>>1341601
>>1341620
>>1341665
As a kid I read about DW/DQ3 in Nintendo Power, and wanted it badly. Parents brought home 2. I don't think I realized what a living hell it was until I was older.

>Level caps
>Cave to Rhone
>The entire last area really.
>Four fucking mini-bosses before Hargon.
>Hargon himself.
>Surprise attack right after Hargon, hope you don't die and have to do all this all over again! LOLOLOLOLOL!

I have no clue how I beat it as a kid, and playing through it all these years later I've realized I never want to play 2 ever again. The level cap alone angers me for reasons I can't properly explain.

[Anonymous No.1342623]

I loathe to be this guy, but what is a good starting point for this series? I've only ever played VIII (a relative owned a copy), and I've been meaning to get into them.

[Anonymous No.1342753]

>>1341361

I have the 3DS version of 7 and it took me 2 and half hours to get to the first battle. It took me about 85 hours to beat the whole game without a guide. The beginning is shortened from what I've heard; I dunno for sure because I've never played the PSX version.

[Anonymous No.1342814]

>>1342130
Yep. You always need to grind a couple of levels or you will easily die. The creator feels grinding is part of the experience. The struggle of "one more level" is all that needed. Yeah it's kind of stupid but that tends to be the how the games are played personally it's not that bad (past 2 at least). Once you gain the right characters and fight everything you see you should be fine until the final boss. And by then there's normally places you can go with metal slimes to gain the right amount of levels for the final boss.
>>1342364
Ouch I'm very sorry. I played 1 from Nintendo Power but never played 2 until the GBC. But did get 3 on the NES. And loved the hell out of it. Sadly never got 4 until DS. And didn't even know there was 7 until a year after I played 8 (didn't even know there was in the same series since I never really did any research on it). But ever since I played the DS version I fell in love with the series all over again.
>>1342623
3 is universally praised. It's plays a bit more like Wizardry. Where you go to the tavern and create your party. Pick the class and gender and when they hit level 20 they class change and keep their spells. There's a SNES fan translation of it but the NES works just fine in my opinion.
The DS of 4-6 is easy to get into. And each gives something to the series.
8 is a nice game and if that's the one copy you can already play. Then I say play that. It's not bad but I do say it plays differently then the other games. I can't really explain but it does have a different feeling from the other games.

[Anonymous No.1342832]

>>1342623
The beginning, obviously. Play 1-2-3 in order. 1 and 2 aren't great, 3 is amazing but there's more payoff if you've played the previous 2 games. They aren't going to be totally massive timesinks compared to this generation's games, or even most SNES/Genesis RPGs, though the grinding at some points can be a little tedious.

[Anonymous No.1342852]

>>1342832
>The beginning, obviously. Play 1-2-3 in order. 1 and 2 aren't great, 3 is amazing but there's more payoff if you've played the previous 2 games.
This. Also, I don't know about the originals but the 1-2 remakes aren't bad at all about grinding.

[Anonymous No.1342974]

>>1342814
>>1342832
>>1342852
1-2-3 it is. I'll give the local retro store a check, I swear they had copies of at least 1 and 3.

[Anonymous No.1343287]

>>1342974
Going to try to get the NES or GBC version? The GBC version of 3 actually kept the gay bar which is why it's rated T.

[Anonymous No.1343367]

>>1343287
Definitely NES, since I need to pad out my collection and no longer have a GBC.

[Anonymous No.1343374]

>>1341284

6 is my next Dragon Quest game in my backlog. Why is it ":|" ?

[Anonymous No.1343389]

>>1343374
It's…hard to explain. It was the first Dragon Quest game not made by chun soft. And what I think happened was that Enix was so use to chun soft they didn't really talk to heartbeat (the maker of 6) and so a lot about the game feels off. Enix noticed that so I'm guessing they worked their ass off to make 7 an amazing game.

[Anonymous No.1343426]

>>1343374
I disliked all the characters and the class system. When I first started playing DQ games and getting into the worlds I wouldn't have thought that would be a big deal but I really kinda struggled to stay interested in 6. Fortunately I thought the premise, world, and exploration were still pretty excellent.

It's not bad, I just felt that it was nothing special, or it was less unique than each of the games that came before it.

[Anonymous No.1343443]

DQ8>DQ3>DQ5>DQ7>DQ1>DQ4>DQ6>DQ2

dq2 can go fuck itself. all the others are at least good though

[Anonymous No.1343458]

>>1343443
Why is 4 so low on your list? Also what did you love about 8? I do agree 2 is awful however.

[Anonymous No.1343464]

>>1343458
The only reason people elevate 8 so high up their list is because MUH GRAFFIX

[Anonymous No.1343481]

>>1341352
How do you play on a Super Famicom with a PS2 controller?

[Anonymous No.1343598]

>>1343464
I don't even really think of it on the same level as the other games, because the fact that you explored the world on a normal scale as opposed to world map and the detail level of the towns and dungeons set it way apart. But the towns and dungeons and sideplots were all great, and the characters were all likable, which are things I look for in any DQ game. The graphics were fine, they weren't as important in making the game good as the music as far as "sheen" goes however.

[Anonymous No.1343836]

My list:

DQ5, DQM 2, DQM, DQ3, DQ4, DQ8, DQ7, DQMJ, DQMJ2, DQ9, DQ6, DQ1, DQ2

[Anonymous No.1343837]

>>1343464
>The only reason people elevate 8 so high up their list is because MUH GRAFFIX

This post is bullshit.

[Anonymous No.1344000]

Dragon Quest VIII is a mess. I like the game well enough, but everyone seems to ignore how poorly thought out the whole game is. It introduced a lot of things, yet none of them were done very well.

[Anonymous No.1344024]

[Anonymous No.1344052]

>>1344024

"Huh, a gif of metal slime, wonder what's gonna hap--"

[Anonymous No.1344190]

>>1341367
This.

It felt super memorable to me. Like I'm living in a comfy and safe world but now there's a lot of danger crawling around.

[Anonymous No.1344201]

>>1344024
That's... fucking clever.

[Anonymous No.1344195]

>>1343464
The only reason people hate on 8 so much is because of "I'M SO OLD-SCHOOL XD"

[Anonymous No.1344251]

>>1344195
DQ8 took way too many steps backwards. Compared to its predecessor, it had:

-No class customizing
-Less skills you can learn
-Shorter main campaign
-Fewer optional bosses
-Generic Level 5 design
-More of a bland world

This is why people say DQ8fags only care about the grafics, since everything else about it was inferior.

[Anonymous No.1344265]

>>1344251
Less customization and less skills is not a point you're allowed to make. It's utterly unfair as it could be dropping obsolete skills, keeping a tighter balance, or simply consolidating skills and spells that had little difference or were too situational.

[Anonymous No.1344273]

>>1344251
>This is why people say DQ8fags only care about the grafics

Unless someone cites graphics as their reasoning for preferring DQ8, you should not do that, particularly because it makes you look stupid.

[Anonymous No.1344283]

>>1344251
Most RPGs have shorter main campaigns when compared to VII.

VIII still had a solid 50+ hours campaign

Also, being generic and bland is completely subjective. VIII isn't my favorite but it's still a worthy DQ game.

[Anonymous No.1344294]

>>1344283
Isn't being simple a major thing when it comes to the series?

[Anonymous No.1344332]

>playing the entirety of DQIX for the first time with three friends

The core combat and character progression systems are pretty sweet, if not a tad bit slow, but I wasn't a fan of the bland main storyline and premise though. Felt like it was retreading a bit of the Psaro stuff for the major antagonist, and the standalone scenarios didn't quite have the same oomph as DQ7.

I'm not entirely sure what my ideal kind of DQ would be. I wouldn't mind seeing the return of a completely customizable protagonist, but only for the hero as they're supposedly intended to be our avatar. Combine that with an actual cast of allies and Talk feature, and I think it'd be a start.

[Anonymous No.1344341]

>>1344332

I loved dq9 and dq3 for the customizable chars.

I loved dq8 for the big titted slut.

and i loved dq4 for the intersecting story lines.

So my perfect synthesized dq would be a 4 cornered story...where each char is designed by you...and these 4 corners meet up at the mid point of the game and your party becomes the 4 chars you made at the start of the game and customed yerself. (other chars will 3-party fill out the party in the respective chapters but they will be npcs that are not customized and geared toward story telling characters)

...and one of the npc chars needs to be a big titted hot-as-fuck chick.

That would be the perfect DQ.

[Anonymous No.1344343]

I wouldn't say DQVIII is the best game in the series, my personal favorite is III, but I do feel like DQVIII is probably the best entry point in the series for people who've never played DQ. The fact that it has 3D, PS2 graphics do make it more appealing to people who might be wary of the old-school nature of the series (admittedly, that's probably less of a problem with people who hang out on /vr/), it's a completely stand-alone game, as opposed to the Ruto and Heaven Trilogies, it doesn't rely so much on nostalgia and references to older games like IX, and it's less intimidating in scope than VII. Yes, it has it's flaws, but for someone who's new to the series, I really do think it's the best game for them to get a feel for Dragon Quest and decide if they want to play the other games.

And it's got the most Va-Va-Voom.

[Anonymous No.1345202]

>>1344343
What do you think is the best DQ game to go to after getting into the series through VIII and IX?

[Anonymous No.1345343]

I like that whole chapter thing in 4, but from a gameplay perspective it really sucks. You have to repeat your first 10 or so levels about 4 times throughout the game and they are definitely the least exciting. Hell, when people whine about grinding in Dragon Quest they are almost always referring to those first few hours.

[Anonymous No.1345348]

>>1345343

ya, Taloon especially because he's alone and a Merchant.

I remember getting annoyed with fighting in that chapter but selling Chain Sickles and running a store i found to be super cool for some reason.

[Anonymous No.1345352]

>>1341402
the GBC version has the coins and the bonus bosses, but the SNES just has the bonus bosses.

[Anonymous No.1345357]

>>1345202
Go with 5. Still easy mode like those two, but monster raising and a feel ride story.

[Anonymous No.1345360]

>>1345343
>they are definitely the least exciting
Those are the best parts of the game though

[Anonymous No.1345380]

>>1345348
I really fucking loved Mercantile sim.

Dunno why, just thought it was so wildly different than most side quests I have ever done in an rpg.

[Anonymous No.1345386]

>>1345380
was there some trick to the last part where you needed enough money to buy that one guy's store? I got and sold the silver statue, but I was like 10k short or something and just had to suck it up and grind for drops.

[Anonymous No.1345456]

I'm reluctant to finish DQ. I'm at the very end, just need to raid the castle, but my level isn't quite high enough. So, I keep farming xp from the axe knight; it's so repetitious. Now, I'm not completely turned away from the series, DQ was still sorta fun in some inexplicable way.

So I take a casual stroll through DQ2. Now there's multiple slimes! Okay, multi-enemy battles are standard. But there isn't even any backgrounds for them or anything. It looks like a minor upgrade in graphics. And then I see this thread: it's the worst in the series, lol if you thought DQ was grinding then wait till you play DQ2, would never play again. So should I just skip and play, what seems to be regarded as one of the best in the series, DQ3?

[Anonymous No.1345529]

>>1345456
I'd say try and power through 1, but don't get too worked up if you can't beat 2. 3 is fucking amazing, even moreso if you beat 1 and 2, but it's a great entry point.

Pro-tips: USE SLEEP. It's so overpowered and pretty much neuters whole groups of enemies.
If sleep doesn't work, then use confuse or fog.
Don't bother with damaging spells as they are a waste of MP. Just use a whip on your mage and buff. They help you save MP.

What versions are you playing? The SNES remakes are considered the definitive experience and I don't know if the Japanese Wii collection, which contains all three, is translated yet.

[Anonymous No.1345725]

>>1341251
9's story was pretty junky, the MC was devoid of personality and the other characters total throwaway paper dolls. The whole world lacked the cohesive feel that 8 brought to the table, and the multiplayer hub inn, which forever remains empty if you don't live in the heart of tokyo where streetpasses actually exist, just made the game feel like a hollow shell. That game felt lonely as fuck to play.
It had some decent exploration, though. That wasn't bad. Reminded me of the first Lufia in that regard.

[Anonymous No.1345741]

>>1344251
>too many steps backwards
But can you even imagine what it would be like if they kept escalating things like they did through 7? 6 introduced the more intricate class system and even larger, more drawn-out main quest, 7 took both of those things to a new level and is known for its length, I think there were people who probably would have wanted 8 to be a classical style but with more complex existing elements and 250 hours long but I think they probably were smart in "rebooting" the series.

9 though, 9 was a fuckup. Not that it was horrible, but I can't see it as a main series DQ game.

[Anonymous No.1345743]

>>1344294
Yeah, the guy saying it was a step backwards is dumb or poorly trolling. VII was a very ambitious game, taking almost all of the neat things about the previous games and wrapping it all into one neat game. However, it was too much for most fans, and even though it sold well, it's often seen as the hardest in the series because of it's length, convoluted class system that can end up with you having under-developed characters if you don't know what you're doing, and at times it's difficulty. DQVII was a great game, I really enjoyed it, but it's not the pinnacle of the series by any stretch of the imagination.

[Anonymous No.1345941]

So does people feel it's best to play the PSX version of 7 or wait for them to release the 3DS? We know that Squeenix has two names and it's very likely one of them is 7.

[Anonymous No.1345949]

>>1345941
If you want to play it now, just play the PSX version. If the 3DS version gets a release date before you're 20+ hours in, drop it and wait.

7 is fun, but it's not a game you play twice in a year...unless you really love 7.

[REAL ||D.II.II\/II.||D NIGGA No.1345982]

I actually quite enjoy DQ1
Having to use the menu for doors/stairs is a bit too oldschool for me though
Only having one character to level up/manage is refreshing

[Anonymous No.1345984]

>>1345982
Play the gameboy or SNES release, they got rid of the menu for doors and stairs and slightly increased the gold/exp rates.

[REAL ||D.II.II\/II.||D NIGGA No.1345990]

>>1341402
>>1341397
Does the GBC version have an extra boss after you collect all the golden coins? I Hear collecting all the gold coins is a very difficult task

[Anonymous No.1346007]

>>1345529
Will do.
>What versions are you playing?
The originals, NES. I didn't even know there were SNES remakes. So I looked them up. Obviously, from a graphics standpoint they're much more appealing than the originals. And apparently they're easier? As in, they cut down on the grinding. They look very enticing. So I guess I'll be playing those ones instead.

[REAL ||D.II.II\/II.||D NIGGA No.1346010]

>>1345984
Thanks, I'll give it a try
I've got to say I enjoy DQ1 much more than the first Final Fantasy

[Anonymous No.1346017]

>>1346010
yeah, I do too, but you have to remember they're actually pretty different games, and really shouldn't be compared.

[Anonymous No.1346203]

>>1346017
Except everyone at Square said Final Fantasy was trying to do everything differently the Dragon Quest (which when it was released 2 came out a year ago). The biggest problem Final Fantasy had was that they tried to do some too big for their own good. The plot makes no sense and more then half of the spells are bugged. Final Fantasy isn't a bad game I just felt they wanted to do something so grand everyone would love it. Then a few months later Dragon Quest 3 came out and blew Final Fantasy out of the water.

[Anonymous No.1346530]

>>1345990
okay, here's how the monster medal system works, at least as far as I understand. At the end of a fight, you have a chance of picking up a medal, but only one of the last enemy you killed in a fight. if you get another of the same monster, then you get a better medal. it does from bronze to silver to gold. after you beat the game, a bonus dungeon unlocks with a boss called DivineGon who is tough as fuck and beating him within 15 rounds, it's easier than it sounds, grants you a wish of your choice. I can't remember all teh wishes, but there is a blank space. pick that and the bonus bonus dungeon unlocks. this dungeon is locked and requires a bronze medal of every monster in the game to get past a certain point, then silvers to get past another point, then gold to fight the super boss at the end. beating him in 30 turns I think it was earns you the ultimate weapon in the game, which can be used as an item to case the most powerful attack spell.

oh, and don't worry about boss medals. you'll either get them in the bonus dungeon, or the secret wish from Divinegon gives them, but I don't remember which.

[Anonymous No.1346682]

>>1344000
>It introduced a lot of things, yet none of them were done very well.

Such as?

[Anonymous No.1346691]

>>1346682
not him, but the skill system sucked. It was pretty much the worst uninformed choice in a RPG I've ever seen. I know you can save skill points, but still, DQ9 did it way better. both are better than the shitty job system from 6 and 7 though. that was just a tedious grind of the worst kind.

[Anonymous No.1346695]

>>1344024
You sly motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.1346709]

>>1345741
I bought into 9 after reading about the job system and how it would basically be my first chance to play a modern DQ.

Not too long before picking up my preorder, I had recently finished the GBA version of FF5. So you can imagine my disappointment in how much the job system in DQ9 sucked in comparison. Not to mention the fact that I had to watch my characters run about willy nilly before attacking each turn, and the fact that the battles were slow as fuck even when I tried everything I could to make them go faster.

And not only that, but I even played the original NES DQ1 earlier in the year. So after hearing the same exact sound effects in 9 as I did in 1, I dropped it not long after. It felt like I was playing a fancier version of older games in the series.

[Anonymous No.1347035]

Soooo...you guys ever played BodyConQuest?

[Anonymous No.1347053]

>>1347035
is this meet n fuck kingdom in NES form

[Anonymous No.1347081]

>>1346709

i played it on emu where pressing + triples the speed. Game was better that way.

[Anonymous No.1347096]

>>1346709
9 was just bad. Not in comparison with FFV, but in general. It is the only main-series Dragon Quest game that's actually not good at all. Even the MMORPG is better, although not by much.

[Anonymous No.1347117]

>>1347096
This is because of 9's development shift part-way through.
It feels like a single player MMORPG, and that is entirely because it was originally an action rpg.
And the mmo-like quests and constant gathering of shit on the world map for alchemy also play large role in that feeling.

[Anonymous No.1347837]

>>1346709
While I LOVE FF5 job system (Can't wait for Bravely Default) I think I enjoy 7's a bit more. There's less jobs but the fact you have to master some classes to unlock new ones for that character is nice.

I kind of wish they release 9 for the 3DS feels the streetpass would work better then the way 9 transfer maps. And I mean in the US since in Japan it was almost certain that 1 out of 10 people you meet in Japan had a copy of 9 in sleep mode when it was released.

[Anonymous No.1348118]

Just bought a 3ds and will play 5 and6 later
I thoughtI was the only one that didn't like9 so far

8
4
1
5
3
2

I playeda rom on the snes of 5
Amazing story

[Anonymous No.1348257]

>>1348118
Why is 8 on the top and 3 second to last?

[Anonymous No.1348948]

man, this grind is kicking my ass. even on the snes, which is supposed to have cut down on the grind, it's still at least twice the grind as the DQ1! they should have added a sub-title, Dragon Quest II: double the grind, double the frustration.

[Anonymous No.1348984]

>>1348948
>Triple
Fix that for you

[Anonymous No.1349012]

>>1348984
heh, yep.
>starting at lvl 1 for each party member
>the damage prone princess due to lacking ability to bear armor
>takes about 50 kills to gain higher levels after about lvl 5
it's brutal; i don't know if i have the tolerance to see it through.

[Anonymous No.1349019]

>>1348948
Why aren't you playing the GBC version?

[Anonymous No.1349020]

>>1349012
One thing that I noticed about 2 compared to the rest is it is perfectly balanced with unrelenting difficulty. You're are meant to aimlessly wander around for hours upon hours and even after getting the orbs, you're only just barely ready to tackle the final areas.

I think this was because on the whole, dq1 is very easy and also short prompting them to address this in 2. They just went too damn far.

[Anonymous No.1349317]

>>1344000
I disagree, but nice trips.

[Anonymous No.1349470]

>People hating on Dragon Quest 2

But it has my favorite overworld theme. :(

[Anonymous No.1349550]

>>1349470
I won't deny the complaints about its difficulty level, but I don't think DQ2 deserves the bad rap it's getting in this thread at all.
It was SUCH a massive step up from DQ1 in terms of how ambitiously far they struck out, and it has this sense of wonder about it that I can't easily quantify but which feels missing in a lot of other games, either DQ games, RPGs, whatever you want to compare it to.

I don't know how they did it or why it strikes me this way, but the way they pulled off the world building in DQ2 just feels so magical, so charming to me.

[Anonymous No.1350242]

>>1349550
We mostly list it as one of the worst Dragon Quest game. It's not awful in any sense of the word just insane on it's approach in my opinion. You have to grind from level 1 with each character and outside the first character the other 2 could die in a hit or two from the enemies around them. The only tip you get for the crest is a guy that says "GO WEST!" and a flute. The second guy doesn't really have that great of a arrange of spells and his strength isn't great. Yes he meant to be the balance guy but he really kind of sucks at everything. Most enemies in the end that is best to just run and hope you can make it to the last shrine before you run into anything that can cast defeat or sacrifice. I feel they felt they needed to step up everything from 1. More exploring, more enemies, more characters, and also tougher enemies. I feel even they feel it was too annoyingly difficult and so they toned it down in 3 but it still felt like an amazing adventure with a tone of different towns to explore.

[Anonymous No.1350836]

Alena is my waifu
Thats all

[Anonymous No.1350871]

>>1349470
>>1349550

I love DQ2. Rhone's difficulty is overrated., the locations of the crests being too cryptic is a valid complaint but it really doesn't bother me.. that being said it is one of the worst games in the DQ series, but that's just because the series is just so high quality

[Anonymous No.1350879]

what's wrong with the DS remake of 6? everyone says it's bad.

[Anonymous No.1351163]

>>1350879
No they don't.

[Anonymous No.1351180]

You people that bitch about DQ2 are a bunch of pansies. If you weren't grinding up to level 15 before finding other party members, you wouldn't have such an unbalanced team.

[REAL ||D.II.II\/II.||D NIGGA No.1351210]

I decided to give the SNES version of DQ1 a go and everything seems much nicer to me than the NES version, but has the random encounter rate been slowed down beyond belief or is it just me? The amount of time I can walk around without bumping into any enemies is disturbing

[Anonymous No.1351219]

>>1351180
To be fair, you end up with an unbalanced team no matter what you do. Even if you keep the Hero and the Prince at level 1 somehow, you'll end with a team of characters with uneven levels, since the max is 50(Hero)/45(Prince)/35(Princess) and their experience curve is very different.

[Anonymous No.1351225]

>>1351210
I don't think the original had encounter rates based on terrain, but I might be mistaken.

[REAL ||D.II.II\/II.||D NIGGA No.1351234]

>>1351225
Yeah that could be it, I've noticed a lot more encounters when I'm not on plain grass
The grinding had certainly been reduced by a lot in the SNES version

[Anonymous No.1351260]

>>1351225
The original did have higher encounter rates in forests and mountains, but I think for the remakes the encounter rate was upped for them while plains had the encounter rate lowered.

[Anonymous No.1351493]

>>1351210
Yes, it is much easier on the eyes. And the music is better.

But no, the only thing that changed with encounters were some of the enemy spawn locations.

[Anonymous No.1351545]

Is this the only series that consistently gets remakes so right they become definitive versions?

[Anonymous No.1351561]

I know not technically /vr/ related but I loved ps2 remake of 5. Always wanted to add in the two extra recruitable monsters from DS version on the extra wife. DQ games are notorious for weird compression algorithms so I was wondering if there's any documentation I should read before an attempt.

[ICON 4570 8254 9192 !.5lBEu6KI6 No.1352632]

>>1348257
Because I played three on an emulator and just couldn't get into it. I know it has an awesome battle system but I really prefer having a few bros as opposed to jester1 soldier 2.
I will give it a legit chance one of these days?
I didn't like 9 so far
Is that normal? Should I just go to 5 than?

[Anonymous No.1352652]

>>1352632
3 is meant to be more like Wizardry over a normal JRPG. Where you can make a party of anything and have fun. Name them after your friend's and family and adventure. It really is an amazing game in every sense of the word. If you are into more of a story then yes 5 is where it's at.
4 focus more on your team mates finding each other. And 6 is pretty boring in my eyes.

[ICON 4570 8254 9192 !.5lBEu6KI6 No.1352657]

>>1352652
Word
I prefer my JRPGs linear and storyline driven. I really don't like much freedom honestly.
4 was awesome, just enough grind with a cool story
5 has a good story going to pick it up
Never played 6 but always hear it compared to pokemon.

What about the monstersgames?
Any good?

[Anonymous No.1353170]

>>1352657
If you play 5 you have a good idea on what to do in the monster games. Wish the remake of 1 for the 3DS come over here. But I'm say that more and more with Dragon Quest games it seems.

[Anonymous No.1353618]

>>1353170
DQ fans have been suffering like this for years. It took Nintendo publishing them on DS r we wouldn't have seen those either.

In fact that may be the problem were having getting them over here. Nintendo had a couple of big name first party releases during the time dq7, dqmreprise. There's hope for dqm2, but not much.

[Anonymous No.1353640]

>>1353618
Squeenix might just think no one cares and decided to just stop trying to release them over there. Maybe the name thing was just a test to see if there's any blips on the radar for people wanting DQ.

[Anonymous No.1353669]

>>1353640
It's just funny cause dq9 sold so well. Yeah joker 2 was underwhelming, but not everyone is into monster raising.

[Anonymous No.1354923]

>>1341601
Power outage anon here.
Would you guys forgive me if I used cheats to beat through the game ;_;?
I really don't want to deal with those bullpoo encounters again.

[Anonymous No.1355263]

Play it however you want. 2 is really the only fucker in the series so whatever.

[Anonymous No.1355636]

>>1354923
Just use an xp multiplier and fast forward. Then never tell ;x

[Anonymous No.1356110]

>playing DQ2
>make it to the continent the DQ1 was played on
>that music
encounter rates and grinding is shit, though.

[Anonymous No.1356820]

>>1354923
It's your game do whatever you want. 2 is really just a bastard of a game anyways. If anything it's just a stepping stone to the wonderfulness that is 3.

[Anonymous No.1356857]

>>1352657
>Never played 6 but always hear it compared to pokemon.
... I've never heard that before in my life. 6 has a pretty neat story but (in my opinion) less interesting characters than 4 or 5, huge world and extensive class system too, there's a ton to do.

[Anonymous No.1356878]

>>1356857
He might be thinking of 5 with the monster recruitment. Which spawned the Monster series. But even Monster and Pokemon handle things much differently.
As for 6...It's (in my opinion) the least interesting of the series and I think Enix knew that. Which is why they tried to make up for it with 7 which is a better game. If you can stomach a 120+ hour game it's a wonderful game. The first couple of hours is slow but handled very well and when the story starts it feels like a Dragon Quest game which is a nice praise in my mind.

[Anonymous No.1358696]

Does Squeenix have any real excuse on why they won't release 7 for the 3DS? I mean Nintendo said they would take most of the hit by localizing it themselves and marking it. Which is the only problem Dragon Quest had. They never really marketed it outside the promotion in Nintendo Power.

[Anonymous No.1358961]

>>1341284
Here's my bit on this:
DQ4 is great but not THAT great.
DQ5 is equal if not a bit better than 4. They really have different features.
I absolutely loved playing DQ6, the two worlds really made it for me. It's better than 4 and 5, but it's missing Psaro.
DQ9 was fun as fuck and I loved trying to make a ton of armor and weapons. It feels too casual though, and has too much grinding for job and item completion.
Never played swords.
FF4 is a game that felt really long for me, so it's a good value for the money. It feels a lot more small and confined compared to DQ games, though.
I couldn't get far into FF7 mainly because I didn't care. Sorry guys.
Never played Chrono Trigger.

Games that should have been mentioned: FF Tactics series, Rocket Slime, Joker and Joker 2. I absolutely love all of those.

>>1353669
I bought Joker 2 for full price two days after the US release, and recently saw it for a small fraction of the price. People didn't really like it, I think.

It's because it feels like a forced upgrade to Joker. It has more monsters, better graphics, and better travel features, but lacks that FEEL of Joker.

>>1358696
Japs are too busy making Toriyama draw hentai so they can cum on the translators.

[Anonymous No.1359350]

Wonder what Dragon Quest would be like if it was as much of a massive hit here as it is over in Japan. Would the series change to try to reflect the westerners like what Final Fantasy does?

[Anonymous No.1360181]

>>1359350
If 5 was released now with upgraded graphics it would be a hit.

[Anonymous No.1361231]

>>1360181
If they actually marketed it. The problem with Dragon Quest is that they never really do that much advertising for it. 4 and 5 did alright but 9 did amazingly well because they let Nintendo handle the marketing. Right now I feel 7 on the 3DS could do very well over here if they just let Nintendo do their thing and marketed like Squeenix is trying their best to sell Bravely Default.

[Anonymous No.1361893]

I'm surprised so many people like 4 in this thread. I thought the chapter system was nothing special (I guess it was at the time) and it felt pretty grindy.


5 on the other hand is a 10/10 masterpiece. The story is amazing (enhanced so much by Party Chat, like 8) and the monster recruiting system is addictive as fuck.

[Anonymous No.1361919]

>>1361893
I heard 5 is also series creator Yuji Horii's favorite. While my favorite is a four way tie between 1, 3, 7, and 8, 5 is my second favorite.

[Anonymous No.1361954]

I wish I could play the whole series for the first time again.
Last year, I played every game in order, from I to IX (plus Monsters and Caravan Heart) and had a fucking blast. You know, the kind of blast we used to have back when we got a new JRPG in the SNES and PS1 eras. You guys know the feeling.

As bad as the game may sound, I wouldn't mind a DQX localization.

[Anonymous No.1361960]

>>1361954
>You guys know the feeling

AHH! Best feeling the world, and I used to do coke of hookers' asses.

[Anonymous No.1361964]

>>1361954
>You guys know the feeling

AHH! Best feeling the world, and I used to do coke off of hookers' asses.

[Anonymous No.1361970]

>>1361954
>You guys know the feeling

AHH! Best feeling in the world, and I used to do coke off of hookers' asses.

[Anonymous No.1362101]

>play DWIII/DQIII
>think it takes place in a different universe than I, and II
>suddenly realize it's a prequel
>bricks were shat

Ahh, dem feels.

[Anonymous No.1363049]

>>1361893
I really enjoy 4 because it's a different (even today) take on backstory of your party. Give a good bit of time building up on you playing as the main character and have to go out and find all the characters you played as before. 5 I love. Played it years ago and enjoyed every moment. Actually just started just got the mirror and defeated the fake queen and just have fun exploring and finding different monsters to recruit.
>>1362101
To me that was one of the best plot twist in video game history. If you played and really looked at 1 and 2 you would have noticed a shit ton of stuff in 3. But might just write it off as just a fun throwback. But then it hits you and my god it's beautiful.

[Anonymous No.1363821]

>>1363049
I seriously hope you're playing the DS version of 5, and using the party chat every time you talk to a NPC.

>all of those chats with Harry right after you escape enslavement

Goddamn

[Anonymous No.1363849]

>>1363821
>I seriously hope you're playing the DS version of 5, and using the party chat every time you talk to a NPC.
DQ5DS is awful, don't play it. It got stats and mechnaics altered and it's pacing is entirely ruined.

The definitive version of DQ5 is the PS2 port (and it has an English patch). It has the best graphics in the series outside of DQ8, fully orchestrated recording of the soundtrack, and it's original pacing intact. Party chat is cool and all, but it's not a reason to play THE worst version of one of the best JRPGs out there.

DQVIDS, meanwhile, is great and is the best version of DQVI yet.

[Anonymous No.1363881]

>>1363849
Too bad the translation is mediocre to bad.

[Anonymous No.1363890]

>>1363881
Sadly, the official DQVDS translation is no beter, what with the regional accents and all.

[Anonymous No.1363917]

>>1363821
I am playing the DS version.
>>1363849
While I could play the PS2 version I just seem to bring myself to play it. To me the DS version is alright. Not great but at least has the party chat. And I don't feel any different from when I played the SNES fan transation (not complete and didn't know until I was well into the game). Yes yell at me for playing this version but I really don't feel like playing on a emulator as of right now. Wish the PS2 version came out over here but it sadly didn't.
>>1363890
Better then the accents in IV. The accents are a bit everywhere but I can at least read them without questioning if what I read was right or wrong.

[Anonymous No.1363924]

>>1363917
>To me the DS version is alright.
It is alright. But the game itself is amazing, so, compared to that, it's bad.

I.e., the DQ5DS is alright, while DS5PS2 is stellar.

The PS2 version is perfectly playable on a modded PS2, and you really, really should ahve modded your PS2. But it's also 100% well emulated in PCSX2 and runs well even on laptops.

In any case, actively preferring DQ5DS is one thing and is fully acceptable (maybe you like the new pacing that skims over things without letting you feel the adventure), not knowing about the PS2 version is another.

[Anonymous No.1363931]

>>1363924
Well I can't read moon yet (I actually just started last week so maybe in 5 years hopefully).
And I mean I've actually right now in a handheld kind of mood lately. I have the PS2 emulator and a translated version on my computer but I seem to just find the effort to start it. Maybe in a few years I'll play the PS2 version in moon and fully enjoy the adventure.

[Anonymous No.1363937]

>>1363931
There's an English translation over at romhacking.

[Anonymous No.1363939]

>>1363931
>and fully enjoy the adventure.
And the tit jokes.

[Anonymous No.1363962]

>>1363937
as I said
"I have the PS2 emulator and a translated version on my computer"
I just not into playing on an emulator at this time. Some times I feel more like a handheld gamer and sometimes I feel like a an emulator/pc gamer. Just depends on the mood.

[Anonymous No.1364392]

how do the 3 translated versions of 5 compare?
im grabbing dq5 ps2 right now

[Anonymous No.1364468]

>>1341352
>Dual-Analog Sticks
>Super Famicom

MY JIMMIES ARE STILL RUSTLED AFTER TEN FUCKING DAYS!

It is a pretty cute controller that I would never use.

[Anonymous No.1364501]

>>1341043
Either still a he or that's one helluva moose knuckle.

[Anonymous No.1364604]

Out of the main Dragon Quest games for me:

5 = 8 = 3 = 4 > 2 = 1 > 6 = 9 = 7

I've only played the GBC version of 2 which might explain why I didn't find it as frustrating as most of you, I just disliked the characters in 6, and I hated 7 which I got on the PSX when it came out. 7 was, and still is boring as hell to me, and 9 was not nearly as enjoyable to me as 3 was. I'd rather just replay 3 than even look at 9 again.

And yeah, I did like 8 a lot. Bitchin' music, and graphics, fun characters, good voice acting and sidequests. I fucking loved that shit goddammit. The real problem with 8 was that they didn't explain the skill system very well. But I got over it.

Generally I liked 3 for gameplay and grinding, it just hits a real sweet spot in terms of gameplay difficulty, and I liked pretty much all the versions of it I've played.

Five and four just have nice characters and quests. I liked the gameplay of 4 just a bit more.

I've now played most of the Dragon Quest Monster games, and I wish they'd release that shit in the States. I loved DQM1 and 2 when I was younger, and really enjoyed the DS game (hated the multiplayer), I'd be stoked to buy a remake of 2.

Shit do I love Dragon Quest.

King slime is best slime.

[Anonymous No.1364616]

Anyone else hyped like crazy for the DQM2 remake coming out next week? I'm both hopeful and afraid of putting even more hours into it than the last one, but it's looking absolutely amazing.

[Anonymous No.1364625]

>>1363849
>>1364604
Huh, I did not know about that shit. Thanks for mentioning dude. I really liked the DS version of 5 (after I played a translated SNES rom of it), so it'd be cool to check out the translated PS2 version (thankfully I do I have a modded PS2!).

Looking at screenshots now, I still like the appearance of the DS version more, but I'll definitely give this new (to me) shit a shot.

[Anonymous No.1364629]

Man, I went through DQ1, loved it, gave up at DQ2 out of sheer frustration, played DQ8 until I moved out and had no place for a PS2 anymore, and now I'm just tired of it. With one game completed. Goddamn long jRPGs.

[Anonymous No.1364642]

>>1364616
God dammit, that shit is why I need to learn moon runes.

Anybody knowledgeable about the different versions of DQ4? I played a translated version of 4 on an SNES emulator and enjoyed the DS game a lot. Am I missing out on some good shit that might be out there? I'm googling that crap now, but this seems like a decent place to ask.

[Anonymous No.1364647]

>>1364642
Okay, so they removed the party chat feature and tit jokes. I should have read the entire thread before asking.

[Anonymous No.1364718]

>>1364642
>translated version of 4 on an SNES emulator

I think you got that wrong, anon.

[Anonymous No.1364734]

I've been playing through 7 and holy shit its amazing
>dat hub ruins
>dat collecting shards to open new islands
>dat constant feel of adventure

Its like if Dragon Quest and Mario 64 had a beautiful child /vr/ I-I think I'm in love.

[Anonymous No.1364782]

>>1364642
DQ4 is a NES/Famicom game. It was remade for the PSOne (no translation) and the DS. The DS version is not very good for many reasons, including a very questionable script and altered gameplay.

I would say, the Nes original (Dragon Warrior IV") is still the best English-language version. Otherwise it's the PSOne remake, if you read moon.

[Anonymous No.1364793]

>>1364734
>dat constant feel of adventure

Oh, I know that feeling.
If you didn't play them already, try Grandia and Skies of Arcadia somewhere in the future.

[Anonymous No.1364796]

>>1364782
>Otherwise it's the PSOne remake, if you read moon.

But why would he play the PS1 remake when the JP DQ4DS has party chat and more content?

[Anonymous No.1365292]

>>1364392
>DQ5 SNES
The original. Good translation.

>DQ5 PS2
3D graphics, a few more recruit-able monsters, more sugoruko boards, Orchestrated soundtrack, OK translation, Collectors museum, altered bonus dungeon.

>DQ5 DS
Exact same as ps2 except different graphical style more akin to DQ7 PS1, Good Translation if you can overcome some cockney. Extra wife and an additional 2 more monsters than the ps2 version. Midi's but still better than snes.

[MishaLover !!l14ghIzAV4y No.1366194]

>>1345990
>>1346530

Yeah, it'd be easier in Japan because you could share them kind of like in pokemon. Instead of trading, you simply get a copy of each others coins.

Not nearly as many people play Dragon Quest outside of Japan though, so it was considerably harder for foreigners to get the medals.

>>1342623

Either the first trilogy ( I, II, III) or the second (IV, V, VI) in order.

For the first trilogy, III is the best, so don't play it first or else the first two will be a chore to play though.

For the second trilogy, I'd say VI is the least best, but still pretty good. IV and V is roughly equal in gameplay, although V has the party chat.

It is a real shame IV doesn't get the party chat translated, I found it's characters more interesting than V's characters.

>>1344024

Someone needs to make the background transparent on that one day.

>>1345343

I really loved that about IV, actually.

>>1345386

Not sure. I think there was also a quest where you could go to some quartermaster in the kingdom that wanted to attack the castle with the tournament Alena went to. He'll ask for swords and shields that he'll compensate you for.

>>1346007

There are also Game Boy versions of I+II, and III. GBA versions of IV, V, VI. All are easier than their original versions.

[Anonymous No.1366234]

>>1366194
>GBA versions of IV, V, VI.
Think you mean DS.

But yeah IV is a hell of a lot of fun but I prefer the NES mostly since the accents really fucking bother me. Hear the PS2 fan translation is good for V but the DS isn't bad. And VI is…alright. I mean it's not bad it's just a bad Dragon Quest game. But that really goes to show the amazement of the series.

[REAL ||D.II.II\/II.||D NIGGA No.1367992]

What level should you be at before you try to fight the Dragon that is guarding the princess on the SNES version of DQ1?

[Anonymous No.1367997]

>>1364625
>Looking at screenshots now, I still like the appearance of the DS version more
You've been looking at the wrong screens perhaps. Seriosuly, if you like the cheerful DQ look in general, DQ5 on the PS2 is the best-looking game in the series, not counting DQ8.

[Anonymous No.1368000]

>>1364796
>But why would he play the PS1 remake when the JP DQ4DS has party chat and more content?
Because the DQ4DS has sltered stats on monsters, which interferes with pacing. DQ4DS and DQ5DS fly by too fast. It's like watching a movie on fast-forward, literally. And I do mean literally.

[REAL ||D.II.II\/II.||D NIGGA No.1368805]

>>1367992
Help

[Anonymous No.1368809]

>>1368805
What's the big deal in trying? Get enough gold to buy a new weapon/armor, buy it, and go fight the dragon. If you lose, it's hardly even a step back.

[Anonymous No.1368821]

>>1368805
Not the answer you're looking for but...when you rescue the princess, DON'T take her to the castle.
Continue the story, get to the final boss, kick his ass, and finish the game with the princess in your arms.
LIKE A MAN!

[Anonymous No.1368829]

>>1368821
DQ1 pulled the hero's journey so brilliantly, I can ignore most of its flaws. I can't think of any other jRPG that makes you feel like such a badass, rescuing a princess in your arms and collecting legendary items. The lack of party members just reinforces it.

[Anonymous No.1368830]

>>1368821
well, shit.

why didn't I think of this?

[Anonymous No.1368871]

BANG! BANG! BANG!

[Anonymous No.1368884]

>>1368821
>>1368830
Do you gents think it's possible? I don't remember whether you're required to bring her home to proceed.

[Anonymous No.1368894]

>>1367992
>What level should you be at before you try to fight the Dragon that is guarding the princess on the SNES version of DQ1?
Going into battle and finding out yourself is the whole point of DQ's combat. It's like watching a sports competition or gambling, a stupid but universal thrill, because you simply don't know what the result would be, but you really wanna find out, and the only way to know is actually try it.

[Anonymous No.1368910]

>>1368884
Yeah, it is. There's even some hidden scenes you get for taking her.
A mention from the final boss, a threesome with the groupie, different NPC dialog before and after the ending...

[Anonymous No.1368923]

>>1368910
Oh shit, the game even acknowledges it? Holy shit, I gotta try it.

[Anonymous No.1369056]

>>1368923
There's 3 endings. One with you rescue the princess in the middle of your journey. One with her with you as you fight the final boss. And actually one if you never rescued the princess at all.

[Anonymous No.1369058]

>>1368923
There are 3 endings. One with you rescue the princess in the middle of your journey. One with her with you as you fight the final boss. And actually one if you never rescued the princess at all.

[Anonymous No.1369079]

>>1341036
>>1341048
>>1341454
I just started learning Japanese (I only know ひらがな&カタカナ)so me trying to just sound it out is slow as fuck. And I'm not going to have fun trying to learn Kanji.

[Anonymous No.1372080]

The Dragonlord offered me a place by his side.

I offered him a body bag.

[Anonymous No.1372151]

Welp, I played DWIV as a kid and loved the shit out of it and just recently wanted to try getting into the rest of the series so I started V, but now I'm having second thoughts from this thread, about the DS port being bad. I'm currently saving up to upgrade my PC to the point I could emulate PS2 games, but is it differences in gameplay really worth the wait? How bad is the DS port anyway?
I also tried restarting IV but the DS version, but the accents are bugging the hell out of me. Makes everyone I talk to sound stupid and I can't understand half of what I read.

[Anonymous No.1373140]

So I'm playing Dragon Warrior III on the GBC and right off the bat they are asking you all sorts of strange personal questions. Pretty complex. But not sure what it all means.

[Anonymous No.1373149]

>>1373140
Just answer them honestly.
Your...personality affects your stat growth.

[Anonymous No.1373150]

>>1344024
Am I missing something here?

[Anonymous No.1373151]

>>1372151
I played DQ5 emulated on SNES, it was... alright.
I tried the DS version, but I like being able to speed up time, personally.

But yeah IV was ATROCIOUS with the accents. I know some people like them, but to me it made the game completely unplayable.

[Anonymous No.1373158]

>>1373149
That's strange. But hopefully I'm in for lots of adventure and exciting storyline.

[Anonymous No.1373283]

>>1373151
IV is my favorite Dragon Quest but I couldn't get through the DS version. It's really sad since IV is really really good. >>1373158
They don't effect it that greatly and since you do basically everything (nice attack, wear nearly all the armor, have good bit of magic) so the personality test is more of a nice bonus to an already amazing game. Just please name your party after your family and friends to give a better feeling of adventuring with them.
>>1373150
That's a metal slime. They have insane defense (even max you still can only do 1 but most of the time you just miss) and they have 50% chance of running every turn. If you can kill one they give the best exp in the game. There's different version like the normal slimes each with more health which makes them even more annoying to deal with.

[Anonymous No.1373314]

So I've just became aware of this game's existence, and just downloaded the game and the English patch. The patch site said it's the thrid Dragon Quest Monsters game.

I've never heard of this one before. Is there something wrong with it that keeps it from being brought up alot? Or is just the whole being a GBA game you can only play in an emulator unless you know moon runes problem that's why I haven't heard anybody talk about it before?

[Anonymous No.1373507]

>>1373314
It's more of a rougelike than a tradtional monsters game. Try it out and you'll understand.

Not a bad game, but it's like the zelda 2 of the monsters series.

[Anonymous No.1373673]

>>1373507
>ANOTHER Dragon Quest Roguelike
I'm okay with this, especially if you know who makes a guest appearance or some such.

[Anonymous No.1373689]

>>1373151
I liked the 'accents' (more like dialects really), it was sort of like really early jrpg localisations with olde English but way more believable since quite a lot of Scottish people actually speak like that. It was a bit annoying with Alena's chapter but all DQ localisations since the NES/GBC days are riddled with puns and shit anyway so you just have to appreciate that It takes itself a little less seriously than something like FF does.

[Anonymous No.1373693]

>>1373689
Reminds me of all the accents in Dragon Quest Swords, though those are voiced.

[Anonymous No.1373702]

I absolutely adore DQ8, it's hands-down one of my favorite games of all time. But I usually see it ranked pretty low in these threads; why is that?

Is it that much worse than the rest of the franchise or are the other games just that much better?

[Anonymous No.1373710]

>>1373702
DQ games really boil down to the gameplay tweaks between each iteration.

Yes 8 looks and sounds fantastic, but its just so oversimplified compared to 6 or 7. The story also can't match 4 or 5.

It's by no means a bad game, but it's like ranking anything really good, something has to go below something else and it ends up being for nitpicky reasons.

[Anonymous No.1374971]

>>1373702
My problem is there's very little exploring. I mean you can explore when you get the boat but it doesn't feel the same like the other DQ games. In the other you had a feeling of being lost and have to wonder around to find the next area. 8 however seem to just follow a straight path with little to no branches.

[Anonymous No.1374981]

>>1374971
I prefer the linearity so I love 8. "Exploration" in a game like DQ is just a tedious experience of fighting a random encounter every few seconds. I hate labyrinthian dungeons for the same reason.

[Anonymous No.1375121]

>>1374981
That's sad since that's what I love about Dragon Quest and other old school RPG. The feeling of a open world for you to explore. With dungeons that you feel so lost that you have to actually map it out. One of the reasons why I hate that Phantasy Star ended after 4. It did exploring and giant dungeons really well.

[Anonymous No.1375729]

Just beat DQ1 & 2, SNES.

DQ1 was comparatively short, simple and fun. DQ2 was a headache, but still sorta fun; though, it's unlikely I'll play it again anytime soon. Malroth was a nightmare, he's only like 10 times more difficult than the Dragonlord. Somehow, though, I managed to win.

So now I'm starting DQ3, also SNES. And, oh my, does it look far more enchanting than the previous 2. Really excited to get into it; it looks like it'll be a long play.

[Anonymous No.1375738]

>>1375729
you're in for a fucking treat

[Anonymous No.1375779]

>>1375729
2 has always been a weird part in the series. I see what Yuji Horii was trying to do but there was a lot of bullshit that really needed to be taken out. And he even seem to knew that since 3 is a much more enjoyable game because of the lessons he learned from 2. 3 is where Dragon Quest really hit it stride and became the series we all know and love. While I love IV and most 3 is a very close 2nd in my list.

[Anonymous No.1375787]

Is there any new information on VII for the 3DS coming to the States?

[Anonymous No.1376026]

>>1375779
The way I see it each DQ game (at least for the earlier games) had a big "new thing" that was probably supposed to excite the player; in 3 it was creating your own party, in 4 it was the way the story was split into chapters and progressed that way, 5 there was a whole ton of new stuff...

In 2, I felt like the big surprise was that you had party members. And that was it. Instead of going solo like in the first game you had 2 other dudes with you and that was supposed to be exciting. But now we don't give a shit because we've played other RPGs and every RPG after DQ 1 and 2 realized it would be insane to just have that system with a single party member. We play DQ1 and say that the single character system is interesting, but a generic RPG with multiple party members is hard to appreciate when that's the universal standard.

[Anonymous No.1376104]

>>1376026
Well I feel they were trying to make 2 seem massively better then 1. The world was bigger (even having a mini version of one in it), party members, fight more than one monster at a time, and tons of items to find. The problem stem from I feel they tried to handle too many things without thinking.
Finding the crests was a massive chore even with the flute. Creatures that can cast death spells without a moment notice, or even worst sacrifice. Very little help in directions (which is kind of normal with Dragon Quest but 2 just seem to scattered for it's own good).
It's just a mess of a game that I'm happy they fixed when they made 3. And not only just fix but made it one of the best JRPG ever made.

[Anonymous No.1378047]

>>1375787
Anyone?

[Anonymous No.1378070]

>>1375787
>>1378047
There was some shit about Nintendo or Square getting a Dragon Quest license or something, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

[Anonymous No.1378253]

>>1378070
I really have no idea why they won't do it. I mean Nintendo pushed like hell for Dragon Quest IX and it did amazingly well. All Squeenix have to do is give them the ok and Nintendo will take most of the hit.