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/vr/ likes Warcraft right? I'm trying to into RTS and this seems like a good place to start, any advice on others I should try/ babies first classic RTS?
>inb4 starcraft

>> No.1337815

Original Warcraft is a good place to start, yes. If you like that then you might as well try Warcraft 2.

Herzog Zwei is a really simple, fun RTS, maybe try that.

>> No.1337948

CnC was always fun. Me and my friends would run over each others armies with the tiberium harvester bots.

>> No.1337968

Warcraft has aged horrible though.

>> No.1337970

>>1337815
>Herzog Zwei is a really simple, fun RTS, maybe try that.
Download the manual if you do.

>> No.1337972

>>1337968
Disagree, but I wouldn't say it's aged gracefully either.
I'd say it's aged averagely.

>> No.1338046

>>1337968
the only thing that has aged is the fan

>> No.1338049

Warcraft is ok. But "trying to get into RTS" with one of the most primitive? Hell no. Start with Warcraft 2, or Age of Empires 2, or Command and Conquer (pick one).

>> No.1338071
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Just brace yourself for how clumsy the interface is if you're going for really old RTS, like Warcraft 1 or Dune 2.

Warcraft 1 actually has a more detailed world than the sequel - it's got bridges, roads, indoor missions, and critters that are not just sheep, pigs and seals. But the controls are clunky and primitive - you need to hold shift and singly click unit-by-unit to select more than one at the same time, and even then the max in a group selection is four. Despite all that the game grew on me.

If you're playing the olde tyme Command and Conquers, like Red Alert 1 then I'd advise you to increase the game speed in the option menu, otherwise unit movement is just agonizingly slow.

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>>1338071
>and critters that are not just sheep, pigs and seals
I loved those, and I loved the art and music of the first game in general. Almost everyone is discouraged by the interface of the game, but honestly, it's just so magical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RApTwWPEqc

I never realized those were female

>> No.1338139

>>1337760
Dark Siege.

>> No.1338152

>>1338139
Dark Reign, I mean.

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>>1337760

> I should try/ babies first classic RTS?
Older RTss are kinda harder than modern and at the same time kinda annoying to play due to engines limitations, also at that time most of the games were either C&C clones TA or Warcraft/SC clones

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>>1338579
>Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance below Supreme Commander 2
>Tzar in Mid Low Tier
>SupCom:FA not in high tier at the very least
>Dune 2000 in Mid Low tier
>Some fucking xbox RTS in High Tier, above all of the above mentioned
>AoE and not SC in best of all time

This is a troll list, and whoever made it, successfully rustled all of my jimmies.
May you burn in the deepest corners of hell.

>> No.1338614
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>Myth games in low
>Battlezone in low
>SupCom 2 better than 1
>RoN in Mid
>Freedom Force being an RTS at all

Actually, fuck this. I could keep going all day.
What a goddamn clusterfuck of a list.

>>1338602

>Some fucking xbox RTS in High Tier
You better not be talking shit about Kingdom Under Fire, because that's some good stuff right there. Not that it's an RTS, though.

>> No.1338618

>>1338614
I haven't actually played them, but anything that could count as an RTS that is on a console cannot be very good, let alone better than SupCom, considering that the way RTS works makes them simply incompatible with a controller. Not enough precision in sticks, not enough buttons for keybinds.

>> No.1338669

>>1338618
>>1338614
The list says rts/rtt

Kuf games are top tier and hard as fuck

>> No.1338670

>>1338669

>The list says rts/rtt
Shit, i must be blind to have missed that.

>> No.1338680

>>1338669
Fair enough.
Doesn't excuse all the other retarded shit, mentioned @
>>1338602
>>1338614
though.

>> No.1338687

Seems like a decent enough thread to ask.

I just decided to get into RTA games. I have the Original Starcraft and Warcraft 3.

Which should I start with and does anyone have any tips?

>> No.1338702

>>1338687
You could start with Age of Empires 2 and Command & Conquer aswell, those are the generally easy-to-get-into classics for RTS.

Other classics would be Total Annihilation, Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance, Dune and Age of Mythology, but the first two can be pretty hard to get into.

I'd say start with whatever looks the most interesting to you. AoE for medieval, Warcraft for fantasy, SC for sci-fi etc. They are honestly all pretty easy to get into, which is the thing with RTS. Easy to get into, but hard to master.

As for tips, well, it depends on what game, but in general: Make sure to learn and use all the keybinds, make sure to learn how to make and maintain control groups, learn how to multitask (like producing units and attacking at the same time), look at your minimap frequently, make sure to actually use your resources (piling is in general pretty bad).

and most importantly, gl hf

>> No.1338706

Would anyone here be interested in playing some retro RTS in multiplayer?

Most of them are dead, or very top-heavy. Or in Warcrafts case, infested with DotA.

>> No.1338808

>>1338579
don't take this fucking list seriously, OP

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>>1338706
w-w-whats wrong with dota ;-;?

>> No.1339528

>>1338579
That list is horrible. Did /v/ made it or something?

>> No.1339529

>>1338579

>Sins not being High Tier at the very least

What the fuck is wrong with you?

>> No.1339548

>>1339514
>ASSFAGGOTS

>> No.1339567
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Daily reminder that C&C1, C&C2 and Red Alert 1 have all been released for free and are available here:
http://nyerguds.arsaneus-design.com/cnc95upd/cc95p106/ C&C1 (download videos separately)
http://iran.cnc-comm.com/ra/ Red Alert 1
http://cnc-comm.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=41 C&C2

All of those versions have been fan-optimized to be compatible with newer systems. You can also play them with high resolution and a few graphic lifts.

Get on it - those are classics, I'd say they still hold up well, and they're probably the ultimate Dune 2-like games (you'll see what I mean when you check out the interface) though I might be very misinformed about that last one. All in all, C&C rocks, ju-ju-ju-ju-ju-ju-just do that

>> No.1339571

>>1339567
That's not piracy BTW; I remind you that EA released all those games for free to download a few years ago but 1: hasn't bothered to update the download links and 2: there's no reason to be tinkering with disc images when you can have these.

>> No.1339581

>>1339567
I didn't care much for the earlier games, got one for Tiberian Sun and Firestorm?

>> No.1339582

>>1339581
Tiberian Sun is C&C2.
http://cnc-comm.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=41
Link contains Firestorm.

>> No.1339586

>>1339514
It killed WC3's custom game scene. Yeah, it was fun for a few months in 2006 or so but it got old fast. That and everyone who played it was a huge jerk and god help you if you didn't have one of the maps downloaded on your PC otherwise you'd get kicked out automatically.

>> No.1339589

>>1339582
So it is, thanks.

>> No.1342894

>>1339514
piss easy gamemode made for wc3 rejects
everyone who were shit at wc3 went and played dota instead, which ended up consuming the custom games scene completely.

>> No.1343559

>>1339586
my best friend mirrored the dota picture and name one version and made a rick roll dota map where aint gonna give you up played it was fucking golden. trolled so many dota snobs. RIP John wherever you are

>> No.1343562

The list is a fucking garbage and Freedom Force isn't even an RTS.

>> No.1343564

>>1337968
>Warcraft has aged horrible though.

If you think old games have aged horribly you shouldn't be on /vr/.