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[Anonymous No.1326396]

Super Mario 64 Thread

>Favorite Stage

>Worst Stage

>Hardest Star

[Anonymous No.1326406]

>Favorite Stage
Honestly I think Bob-omb Battlefield is the best stage. It's so big, and it feels like a big playground.

I pretty much hate any of the stages where you can fall to your death.

>Worst Stage
Wet Dry World
I just felt like it was such a mess of a stage. The town area was cool, but it felt like it was made out of left overs. At least the ideas were cool.

>Hardest Star
100 coins on Rainbow Road or whatever the last stage is called. Dear god, this game is easy to beat, but hard to 100%.

[Anonymous No.1326409]

I always felt the music in 64 was so strange.

It was all really atmospheric, I suppose to go with the new 3D environments. They just feel out of place in the Mario Universe. Not bad, but not amazing either. There are a few gems though.

[Anonymous No.1326427]

What if this game was released but, not as a Mario game? Would it have been as widely praised?

I feel like there are many flaws in this game. If a game ever needed a remake, the DS version not counting, it would be this game.

I would love to see Super Mario 64 Wii U.

[Anonymous No.1326434]

>Favorite Stage
Either Lethal Lava Land or Shifting Sand Land
>Worst Stage
Probably Snowman's Land
>Hardest Star
I'd have to say Tick Tock Clock

[Anonymous No.1326442]

>>1326434

Ugh, Snowman's Land.

I hated that level.

[Anonymous No.1326451]

>Favorite Stage
Rainbow ride. You can go full daredevil and that's what SMB64 is all about IMHO
>Worst Stage
Dire dire docks.Fuck that meaningless level
>Hardest Star
Wing mario over the rainbow.

[Anonymous No.1326456]

>>1326434
>hardest star
Derp, read that as hardest stage.
No idea what the hardest star was because I didn't 100% it. Stupid question.

[Anonymous No.1326457]

>>1326434
Wich one in the Tick Tock Clock?

[Anonymous No.1326469]

>Favorite Stage
Tiny-Huge Island. It was a great gimmick.
>Wost Stage
Cool, Cool Mountain. Pretty much entirely because I am really bad at the sliding race, but it was subpar in all areas really.
>Hardest Star
Honestly you could just pick something from Rainbow Ride

[Anonymous No.1326496]

>>1326456

How's it a stupid question, simply because you never 100% the game?

Y-you're stupid.

[Anonymous No.1326501]

>>1326457
The clock stage.

Rotating cubes, giant clock hands, it's a big cylinder. The entrance is a grandfather clock.

[Anonymous No.1326527]

People always say Mario games are easy, but shit 100% them is tough as fuck.

[Anonymous No.1326541]

>>1326409
>Not going into Jolly Roger Bay just to listen to the music

[Anonymous No.1326550]

>>1326501
You know the speed of the level is based on where the hands are when you ever, aye?

[Anonymous No.1326554]

>>1326541

>not recording that music, muting the game, and playing it on loop through all the stages

[Anonymous No.1326557]

>>1326550

Yeah, stopped, fast, faster, random.

I know.

[Anonymous No.1326613]

This is too hard so I'm going to do it like this
>Favorite Stage
Bob-omb Battlefield
>Second Favorite Stage
Big Boo's Haunt
>Third favorite Stage
Shifting Sand Land

>Worst Stage
Jolly Roger Bay
>Second Worst Stage
Hazy Maze Cave
>Third Worst Stage
Dire Dire Docks

[Anonymous No.1326629]

>>1326613

I forgot how much I love Big Boo's Haunt

[Anonymous No.1326638]

>Favorite Stage
Tiny Huge Island
>Worst Stage
Dire Dire Docks. This game continued the Mario tradition by making the water levels the worst levels. Also an incredibly tedious 100 coin challenge there as well.
>Hardest Star
Guiding the snowball to the snowman. It seemed like you had to get it just right. Clever idea with a terrible execution.

[Anonymous No.1326645]

>>1326638
>Clever idea with a terrible execution.

That's like 90% of Mario 64

[Anonymous No.1326668]

>Best level
Tall Tall Mountain- monkey shenanigans, the slide, the giant rolling log part

>Worst Level
Whomp's Fortress, just a really plain uninspired atmosphere. The owl is cool so i'll give it that.

>Hardest star
5 itty bitty secrets from Tiny Huge island

Keep in mind I haven't played SM 64 in over a decade. I just remember that particular star pissing me off. I'm sure things would be different if I were to play today. I also agree with another anon that said "pretty much any star from Rainbow Ride"

[Anonymous No.1326680]

>>1326638
>It seemed like you had to get it just right.
I never failed it. Just stand in front of the head and let the body run you over.

[Anonymous No.1326724]

>Favorite
Lethal Lava Land. I love grabbin the shell and shreddin' some lava.
>Worst
Dire Dire Docks....although I like when the sub is there
>Hardest Star
Big Boo's Balcony. It's not hard to get the star to appear, but walking on the roof trying to get it can be a pain.

[Anonymous No.1326787]

>Favorite stage
Rainbow Ride

>Worst stage
Wet Dry World takes the cake, but any of the water dominated levels sucked.
God i hate underwater levels.

>Hardest star
Headless snowman in Cool, Cool Mountain. I just couldn't figure it out.

[Anonymous No.1327020]

>>1326724


>It's not hard to get the star to appear, but walking on the roof trying to get it can be a pain.

And that's completely the camera's fault. They made it like that for artificial difficulty but it really pissed me off too

[Anonymous No.1327072]

>>1327020

I doubt they did it on purpose, they didn't know they were making it hard.

[Anonymous No.1327083]

>>1326724
>>1327020

You guys know that if you crawl on the roof, you don't slip, right? You don't have to tiptoe on the very top - just crawl directly across.

[Anonymous No.1327089]

There were a lot of stars I found hard, but for some reason, I can't think of one I had trouble with right now. I found Rainbow Ride pretty easy to be honest. I found Wing Mario Over the Rainbow a lot harder, but that's more about patience really. I don''t know.

[Anonymous No.1327091]

Man, I still have dreams where I'm playing this game, but the "game" is more like an extension of my consciousness (I'm not sitting at the tv and playing, but it's all there is and I control it unconsciously) which really says a lot about how fluid and fun it is to just move around if you ask me.

It was also the first game to give me the feeling of vertigo when falling into the infinite blue sky. It scared me a lot how the camera would clip through walls sometimes and you'd see the sky and remember the stage is floating, the soles of my feet would tingle and my stomach would drop.

And man, the water levels, fuark. The eel terrified me, the manta ray terrified me, but it was really the draw distance for those things that made me shit myself. How they would pop into view out of nowhere is a big thing in my dreams. The eel clipping through the floor out of nowhere or swimming through the air and getting hit to death slowly (being trapped in him with post-hit invulnerability) is a recurring thing in my dreams.

Fuck man, I don't even have autism, but it's Ullullilia tier dreams.

[Anonymous No.1327092]

Just wondering, how many of you initially threw King Bob-Omb off the cliff, thinking that was the way to beat him?

[Anonymous No.1327098]

>>1327092
Most of the times I replay it I get mixed up as to whatever that hurts him or not

[Anonymous No.1327101]

>>1327091

I know what you mean. There is something about playing those low-resolution 3D games that stirs something in my imagination. I can play Super Mario 64 today and be entranced by the mystery of it all. I can look at the endless skies and seas and it just makes me wonder about the game world and stuff like that.

For some reason I find the backgrounds in this game really compelling. I love how Wet Dry World looks like a city...Is it Istanbul? But it's just fascinating standing at the edge and taking it all in. There's something about games like this that just feel boundless. I also like to just look at things with c-up (same with Zelda), it feels really atmospheric.

I don't know...It's like the visuals are low-res enough to feel like I'm actually there. What's odd is that the higher-res visuals are, the less atmospheric it often is for me. I don't totally understand it.

[Anonymous No.1327146]

>>1327092
Ya got me on that one.
I don't do it anymore but when I first played it I definitely thought that was the way to beat him.

[Anonymous No.1327153]

>>1327092

I was fucking convinced you had to carry him down the mountain and feed him to the chain chomp.

[Anonymous No.1327163]

>Favorite Stage

I always really liked the pyramid in Shifting Sand Land, as well as the volcano from Lethal Lava Land.

>Worst Stage

Rainbow Ride, fucking hate it. I also dislike tick tock clock, snowman's land and wet-dry world.

>Hardest Star

100 Coins in Rainbow Ride.

2. 100 Coins in Tick Tock Clock
3. Chests in the currents [Dire-Dire-Docks] (fucking get sucked in easy trying to swim to each treasure chest)
4. 100 Coins in Tiny-Huge Island (so many chances to die)

[Anonymous No.1327165]

>Favorite
Either Tall Tall Mountain or Lethal Lava Land
>Worst
Dire Dire Docks, it was just an uninteresting level
>Hardest Star
100 coins in Rainbow Ride for sure

[Anonymous No.1327169]

>>1327163

I actually 100%'d (whatever) the game not too long ago. Fucking doing those wall jumps to get the blue coins on rainbow ride pissed me off; if you mess up once you have to start over.

>>1327165

I can definitely agree with that, but I did like the music though.

[Anonymous No.1327175]

I never thought about it as a kid, but this game does have a mysterious quality to it. A lot of the levels feel lonely, like you're discovering and exploring places abandoned long ago. In the skybox you can see even more abandoned lands, lands not even you will touch. You never learn the purpose of these worlds, other than being used to hide stars. The game as a whole just feels very unusual from all this. I think it's nice.

[Anonymous No.1327194]

>>1327169
16:9
Disgusting

[Anonymous No.1327215]

>>1327194
>Being this anal about a display

Disgusting.

[Anonymous No.1327267]

>Favorite Stage
Bob-omb Battlefield with Whomp's Fortress being second and Tall Tall Mountain being third.
>Worst Stage
Hazy Maze Cave and the desert part of Shifting Sand Land.
>Hardest Star
The mission in Snowman's land where you have to sneak behind the penguin to keep from getting blown off.

[Anonymous No.1327276]

>>1327175
While not retro these are the same qualities that made the Souls series stand-out in an age where over-exposition is the norm.

I wish we could go back to those simpler days.

[Anonymous No.1327339]

>>1326409
By strange you mean "fucking awesome" I assume.

[Anonymous No.1327357]

>Favorite Stage
Hazy Maze Cave
>Worst Stage
Dire, Dire Docks
>Hardest Star
For me it was the the Red Coins in the Over the Rainbow secret level.

[Anonymous No.1327359]

>>1327092
>Not carrying him all the way down the hill

[Anonymous No.1327376]

>Favorite stage

Either Tall, Tall Mountain or Wet-Dry World.

No, really, Wet-Dry World intrigued me as a kid because I didn't know about how to raise/lower the water levels, so I couldn't get to the underground city, and I always wondered what it was. One day I accidentally went in through a high jump and was able to reach the Bob-Omb, and I was fucking astounded; there was a whole second level down there! I'm sure it wouldn't be that cool if I had figured it out early, but I was not good at vidya as a kid so it took me a couple years.

>Worst Stage

Dire, Dire Docks, if you don't factor in the music.

>Hardest Star

Over the Rainbow.

>>1327359
I tried that but I could never get more than halfway before something hit me or I fell too far and dropped him.

[Anonymous No.1327381]

>>1327359
>not taking him all the way down the hill and to the chain chomp place and pretending you've taken him as your wife and the place where the star is your home and you're carrying him over the threshold like newlyweds

Do you guys even imagination

[Anonymous No.1327383]

>>1327381
>taken him as your wife

What.

[Anonymous No.1327386]

>>1327383

You heard me.

[Anonymous No.1327389]

>>1327381

And i thought i had an active imagination.

[Anonymous No.1327418]

>>1327092
Yeah, of course.

[Anonymous No.1327436]

>Favorite Stage
Bob-Omb Battlefield. May just be nostalgia, but even just dicking around is fun.
>Worst Stage
Wet-Dry World. Feels too gloomy, and I'm not a fan of raising/lowering water levels.
>Hardest Star
Wing Mario Over the Rainbow. It's not even really that hard, but the price of failure is far worse than just losing a life.

[Anonymous No.1327448]

>>1327376
>Worst Stage
>Dire, Dire Docks

Seriously, why though?

[Anonymous No.1327464]

>>1327448
I just find it to be tedious. While there are harder levels to get 100 coins in, it feels like that level takes the longest to do so, and the red coin challenge is also tedious due to having to wait for the lifts. Plus, I'm not a big fan of stages with a lot of water. I understand that seems a bit hypocritical given my favorite stage, but you can turn the water off for that one and only need it for a few parts.

[Anonymous No.1327467]

>>1327436
>>1327376
>>1327357

Fuck that secret course! It always ended up being one of the last stars I had to get. So many lives spent on getting those red coins.

Oh you fell? Looks like you have to walk through the whole castle again!

[Anonymous No.1327484]

>>1327448
it's really empty, even by early n64 standards
the sub disappears for good after clearing the first corse and there at a ton of water hazards that instantly kill you or throw out into the castle pond for some reason.

[Anonymous No.1327498]

>>1326396

>Favorite Stage
Jolly Roger Bay (dat music and atmosphere)
>Worst Stage
Big Boo's Haunt (it's not bad but it's my less favorite)
>Hardest Star
Wing Mario Over the Rainbow, the level design is sadistic, especially for the fact that if you fall over you fall in the water outside the castle

[Anonymous No.1327516]

I played SM64 for the first time back in December and 100% it. I really liked the game but I don't think I'll ever give it another play through.

[Anonymous No.1327526]

Getting that star on the roof of Big Boo house is a bitch.

[Anonymous No.1327535]

So much hatred towards wet dry world...

I loved the underwater town.

[Anonymous No.1327536]

>>1327526
>triple jump
>crawl

[Anonymous No.1327570]

>>1327535
everyone loved the town, everything else though...

[Anonymous No.1327579]

Worst stage is fucking Hazy Maze Cave. The metal mario cavern is cool, but the whole stage is just an ugly, tedious piece of shit. Getting the 8 red coins is such a bitch with that fumbly elevator shit. And that fucking maze.

[Anonymous No.1327608]

>best stage
easily either Big Boo's Haunt/Tall, Tall Mountain/Tick Tock Clock

a lot of the levels are chock full of unnaturally placed platforming stage pieces that make the worlds feel cheap and empty

I'd also say Wet Dry World is the absolute worst because it just feels so lazy
like the section without the town is one of the worst 3d platforming level designs ever
the town is also just straight up weird, with it being enclosed with no sky, miniscule and a lack of life in it

maybe it comes from playing other n64 platformers, but the Super Mario 64 stages aren't exactly the best designed stages

it's kind of like gta 3, where it did something really neat and was a first, but other games have improved on the formula, taking away some of the magic it had

[Anonymous No.1327614]

The hardest ones are the ones you have to use the flying cap for. I've always hated that cap.

[Anonymous No.1327626]

>>1327614
the flight was a letdown as a kid

you get fucking wings and the ability to fly, but then start flying and you're more like constantly declining rather than being superman

[Anonymous No.1327642]

>>1327101
I don't understand it either but I know exactly what you mean. The low resolution endless sky has a dreamlike quality. Fuck man - I need to play SM64 again, it's been 15 years!

[Anonymous No.1327717]

>>1327579
>And that fucking maze.

you mean that small as fuck and easily navigable maze?

[Anonymous No.1327748]

>>1327535
>>1327570
>tfw sm64 was my first game
>tfw never found the town

[Anonymous No.1327749]

Wing Mario Over the Rainbow is such an amazing level. Fantastic use of the flying mechanic, they made the level really hard and it's beautiful looking. I also thought it was a really nice touch that, if you died, you ended up outside the castle. It feels really atmospheric to me for some reason.

I also love how, in Hazy Maze Cave when you go out the cavern, you end up at the waterfall. It's stuff like that, that makes the castle feel really connected, it's so cool.

[Anonymous No.1327792]

>>1327749
It was atmostpheric, but from a gameplay standpoint it's so very annoying to be sent back like that.

[Anonymous No.1327801]

>>1327792

That's what I kind of like about it though. Makes it more intense, raises the stakes. You really DON'T want to fall down.

[Anonymous No.1327834]

>>1326396

>Favorite Stage
Lethal Lava Land

I love surfing on lava with a turtle shell, I don't know why.

>Worst Stage
Wet Dry World

It's sad when the only way I know how to get to that underground part is by glitching. I've 100%ed the whole game twice and I still have no idea how to open the canon on Wet Dry World.

>Hardest Star
Snowman's Lost His Head from Cool, Cool Mountain

It took me forever to figure this one out. Literally the last star I got.

[Anonymous No.1327840]

That secret star where you're in the box filled with water and Dire Dire Docks is playing

Ironically, Dire Dire Docks. The level with the sub, not Jolly Roger's Bay.

I never got all of them but I've heard horror stories about the 100 coin Rainbow Ride one.

[Anonymous No.1327843]

>>1327840
>That secret star where you're in the box filled with water and Dire Dire Docks is playing
Damn I loved that aquarium

[Anonymous No.1327849]

>>1327840
>That secret star where you're in the box filled with water and Dire Dire Docks is playing

Some guy on /v/ said he had nightmares about that box and I laugh about it to this day.

[Anonymous No.1327859]

>>1327834

I hope you know if you enter the painting of Wet-Dry World at the highest point, the water level is at the highest and you can jump into the grated-tunnel to the town.

[Anonymous No.1327860]

>>1327834
If you mean the underground city, the water levels are initially set by how high you jump inside the painting, so if you jump on the uppest part of the painting the water will be at the highest level. Ironically I've discovered that just some years ago, so when I was a kid I got the highest water level only by chance and luck.

[Anonymous No.1327861]

>Favorite Stage
Big Boo's Haunt
I just love the creepy feel of the entire stage and the music as well as the mostly fun missions (fuck getting to the roof)
>Worst Stage
Tall Tall Mountain/TinyHuge Island
Both are shitty uninspired levels with the same repetitive music you hear through two other stages

>Hardest Star
I know this is going to sound stupid but as a kid I could not figure out how to enter the sunken ship in Jolly Roger Bay for the life of me

[Anonymous No.1327862]

>>1327834

Are you me? That Snowman's Lost his Head star took me forever to figure out. It seemed like the ball always rolled past the snowman, it was so weird.

[Anonymous No.1327865]

>>1327834
the pink bob omb was actually really close to the beginning of the level
it was on a floating brick platform in front of the cannon

and that snowman
there are some stars I'll never figure out how I figured them out, like that one on Whomp's Fortress where you have shoot yourself into the wall

[Anonymous No.1327864]

tiny huge island is a fucking shit. its so easy to fall off, i hate that level so much

[Anonymous No.1327869]

>>1327864
git gud

[Anonymous No.1327873]

Who else here used to get the floating cage star in whomp's fortress by using the owl to fly up there?

[Anonymous No.1327878]

>>1327865
>there are some stars I'll never figure out how I figured them out, like that one on Whomp's Fortress where you have shoot yourself into the wall
Not knowing English as a kid, I figured it out purely by accident by dicking around with the cannon shooting myself in random directions.

[Anonymous No.1327880]

>>1327873
you are supposed to get there using the owl in fact.

[Anonymous No.1327883]

>>1327880
No there's a wooden pole you can knock down in the top of the fortress to make a bridge to the floating isles

[Anonymous No.1327889]

>>1327878
I've asked a few people how they've figured it out and they had no clue how they got that star

[Anonymous No.1327894]

>>1327883
That is to get the red coin(s) on the floating islands though, you are supposed to use the owl. It's even called FALL onto the caged island. Another way to get it is the canon.

[Anonymous No.1327904]

>>1327894
Oh shit you're right, I haven't played the game in so long that my memories of it are getting all jumbled up

[Anonymous No.1327912]

Stand tall on the four pillars

[Anonymous No.1327926]

I'm surprised there isn't more dislike for Hazy Maze Cave.

I've never met anyone who enjoyed that level.

[Anonymous No.1327930]

>>1327083
I actually didn't know that. There's no style in crawling though. I like running around like a fool a jumping/diving through the air.

[Anonymous No.1327940]

>>1327926
>I'm surprised there isn't more dislike for Hazy Maze Cave.
Probably because of Nessy and the metal cap.

[Anonymous No.1327935]

>>1327926
I really dig most of the level design-wise. The only part I really hate was getting the red coins and the 100-coin star

[Anonymous No.1327950]

>>1327926
it's the only level where I still feel like I'm forgetting or missing something from

and probably the only level I can't remember perfectly from the top of my head

[Anonymous No.1327963]

Hardware star in the entire game

[Anonymous No.1327970]

>>1327861
>I know this is going to sound stupid but as a kid I could not figure out how to enter the sunken ship in Jolly Roger Bay for the life of me

I still don't know how to make the eel come out properly, takes many tries for me.

[Anonymous No.1327974]

Anyone play the Star Road rom?

It feels exactly like a true sequel to Super Mario 64 would. I can't describe how it felt to play that ROM for the first time. It was like I was four years old on Christmas morning again. Great little ROMhack.

[Anonymous No.1327975]

>>1327963
>Hardware star

Gotta go get some PVC for this plumbing job, huh, Mario?

[Anonymous No.1327980]

I remember being slightly disappointed as a kid when it was impossible to have all three caps combined.

[Anonymous No.1327984]

>>1327980
>Wing cap makes you fly
>metal amongst other things makes you fall faster (except in water)
Yeah that wouldn't work

[Anonymous No.1327991]

>>1327984
Sure it wouldn't but when I was 6 years old I didn't really care about that. I thought it was so amazing when you combine the metal and invisibility cap in Dire Dire Docks that I was sure there would be a level with all three caps.

[Anonymous No.1327992]

>>1327926
I love the toxic cave.
I love the dino
I love the metal cave.

There are worse levels in the game.

[Anonymous No.1327993]

>>1327984

>combine wing and metal caps
>get shot out of a cannon
>wing cap gives you a bit more upward momentum, but the metal drags you down
>pick up massive speed
>tunnel into the ground or just cause a big fuck-off crater

I could dig it.

[Anonymous No.1327996]

>>1327992
>That central room with the giant bottomless pit
Best looking part of the level in my opinion

[Anonymous No.1327995]

>>1327974
Gotta try that. On that topic, ITT I have read that some people had dreams about SM64, me too, but I dreamt about completely new (and awesome) levels, so are there some hacks that have completely redesigned level, as if they were new?
(all the 3D Mario games that followed 64 didn't have quite the vibe that 64 had, for me)
>>1327963
It was fun to drown Mario by letting it burn then fall down on this level while he had few life points.

[Anonymous No.1328000]

>>1327996
It's a great part. The only bad part about Hazy Maze was the elevator stuff and that's because of the controls.

[Anonymous No.1328008]

Favorite: Wet-Dry World
Worst: Rainbow Ride
Hardest Star: None really stood out as super difficult.

[Anonymous No.1328017]

Favorite: Tall, Tall Mountain. I love the environment, the look, the size, the music, the monkey, and the slide. So good.

Least Favorite: Dire Dire Docks. So stressful. Don't like any of it - especially the black hole that slowly sucks you in and spits you out outside the castle.

Hardest Star: Besides 100 coins in the later levels, that damn Castle Star where you use the fly cap in the clouds gathering the 8 red coins. Always gives me so much trouble.

[Anonymous No.1328023]

>>1327993
>>1327993
You'd think a ROMhack would have the ability to add all three at once, just to see the effects.

[Anonymous No.1328024]

>>1328017
Oh god that hole. It's probably the only thing I am still trying to avoid. I hate getting the coins near it for the 100 coins star but there are so few in the level.

[Anonymous No.1328028]

>>1328023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-zmqW50sd0

No underwater segment unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.1328030]

>>1328017
Speaking of TTM, I have just remembered that when I was a kid I almost screamed in terror when I saw the skull at the dead end of the slide for the first time, I wasn't expecting that.

[Anonymous No.1328101]

>>1328030

I messed up on that part a lot. Weird physics.

[Anonymous No.1328145]

>>1328101
I usually skipped the slide by using the kick while jumping in midair above the star location.

[Anonymous No.1328183]

>>1328145
>skipping the slide

anon, why why why.

[Anonymous No.1328329]

>Favorite Stage
Lethal Lava Land and Tock Tock Clock. Quick stages, fast stars, but always with the risk of a quick death. Exhilarating gameplay.

>Worst Stage
Jolly Roger Bay. Incredibly slow, and rather than dying for your mistakes, you have to swim back for fucking ages.

>Hardest Star
Rainbow Road, 100 coins. Fuck that shit.

[Anonymous No.1328782]

>>1327276
a game dev i like gave a nice explanation on why he likes the souls series in terms of storytelling

Ore: Given that games are bigger than movies and books these days, what do you propose to change it or provide as an alternative?

McGrath: Oh, I don’t give a shit. That’s a stupid number. It’s a meaningless metric. It means large corporations have made a whole bunch of money. That reflects nothing on the actual art form. Zero.

Ore: Well, the fact that they’re making these games are –

McGrath: Yeah, they’re crap. Almost across the board. There are some that are good — one of them is Dark Souls.

Ore: How so, in the context of story and narrative?

McGrath: The start of the game where there’s “actually” a story is horrible. But for the rest of the game, you’re in a world that’s very weird and confusing, and there’s a fortress called Sen’s Fortress. I don’t know who Sen is. There’s no character named Sen in the game. The boss at the end of it is just a big iron golem. That exists as a thing in the game, it has a title which should be meaningful, but isn’t explained at all. The player figures it out. And by “figures it out” I mean he invents a story.

You can go on Reddit and find a really long discussion about what it meant, and it’s traced back to a 14th century Japanese emperor. Or not an emperor but a guy who had a castle and his name was Sen. And they’re like, "Maybe it’s that." And then other people posited very different explanations of what it could be. That’s really interesting — that’s a good story.

[Anonymous No.1328818]

speaking of sm64 why isn't sig running it at agdq?

[Anonymous No.1328848]

>Favorite stage
Lethal lava land, loved using the shell to surf the lava, and the volcano was cool

>Worst stage
I think it was dire dire docks, not too bad but i wasn't a fan of it. Loved the music though

>Hardest star
The 100 coins either in Dire dire docks or the rainbow ride
>>1326638
I always had my uncle guide the head to the snowman, i was good with the platforming and the wall kicks, but that star was too much for me as a kid for some reason

[Anonymous No.1329146]

>>1328145

So you hate fun?

[Anonymous No.1329631]

>>1328818
'cause his half-year pause in playing resulted in him struggling to meet his previous skill level.

[Anonymous No.1329642]

>>1326406
>>1326527
don't know what y'all nigs is spittin about i 100% the game with no issues when i was 7

[Anonymous No.1330439]

lethal lava land is the worst designed level next to the bowser levels. for one its too easy and i feel like the designers just threw in a clusterfuck of ideas into one small map and put lava in it and called it finished. the only part that makes sense and looks decent is the volcano. and wtf hazy maze cave is a great level you guys have shit opinions.

[Anonymous No.1330498]

>Favorite Stage
Bob-omb Battlefield

>Worst Stage
Tiny Huge Island. Surprised by how many people love it here.

>Hardest Star
100 coins Tick Tock Clock

[Anonymous No.1330749]

This is a pretty good game, but I didn't liked the fact that you had get stars to progress the game.

[Anonymous No.1330763]

>>1330749

You don't like the fact you had to play the game in order to progress?

[Anonymous No.1330768]

>>1330763
Maybe he wanted a setup similar to, say, Ducktales, where you had access to all the levels at once and could play them in any order.

[Anonymous No.1330769]

Do people seriously think this game isn't outdated? The levels are so shitty and basic, the game looks like shit and the camera is horrendous.

[Anonymous No.1330778]

>>1330768
Well I wanted the game to be like the 2D games where you just have get to a flagpole to beat the level.

[Anonymous No.1330783]

>>1330778
So, you would prefer they have more linear level design like the Super Mario 3D Land games?

>>1330769
You could probably make the same claim for the original SMB.

[Anonymous No.1330787]

>>1330769
I can pop it into my N64 and everything looks fine.

[Anonymous No.1330929]

>Favorite course
Bowser in the Dark World or Tall, Tall Mountain
>Worst course
Tiny-Huge Island or Snowman's Land
>Hardest star
I remember the last time I played through, Elevator Ride in the Volcano was giving me hell for some reason.

[Anonymous No.1330962]

>>1327091
i know this feel

[Anonymous No.1330984]

>>1327849
Holy shit, I did too.
I wouldn't call it a nightmare, but it was a very surreal, slightly unsettling dream.

[Anonymous No.1330991]

>>1327215
>not using 8:1 aspect ratio

[Anonymous No.1331003]

>Favorite Stage
Lethal Lava land. I've spent so much time lava surfing around on the lava...Its so much fun
>Worst Stage
Hidden flying stage with the red coins. Could've been a comfy, relaxing flying stage, but instead, you constantly have to worry about flying too low and ending up in the moat
>Hardest Star
Stomp the thwomp

[Anonymous No.1331034]

>>1327849
It still freaks me out. I'm not claustrophobic or anything, just something about being trapped in an aquarium with no way out and light shining in through the windows from some unknown alien place is very weird.

[Anonymous No.1331273]

>>1331034
good thing you're not a fish.

that shit happens all the time for them.

[Anonymous No.1331545]

>Favorite Stage
Cool cool mountain or lethal lava stage

>Worst Stage
Wet dry world, tiny huge island, hazey maze cave

>Hardest Star
When I was a kid I thought stomp on thomp was pretty hard.

[Anonymous No.1331806]

>>1330439
Although I love Lethal Lava Land, they really wasted the 8 Red Coins star. In other levels, the Red Coins meant you needed to explore every inch of the level, which gave you a more expansive knowledge of the area. LLL just fucking gives them to you less than a minute into the stage.

[Anonymous No.1331819]

>>1330439
What can I say, I just think it's really fun. When you start, you can just turn around and long jump, grab the wing cap, and go burn some bullies. Fun is so fun.

[Anonymous No.1331841]

>Favourite Stage
Shifting Sand Land, but I love deset levels in general, and pyramids are awesome.
>Worst Stage
Lethal Lava Land. Hated going there so much as a kid.
>Hardest Star
Blast Away the Wall in Whomp's Fortress. I never knew where to shoot, so I could never get it until years later when I saw a video for it.

[Anonymous No.1331848]

>Blast Away the Wall

I had this game since I was 6 and been playing it every year or two from start to finish, and I never had trouble with that star even when I was little.

I think.
The thing is I can't remember how I first got that star, but I don't remember having trouble with it either. I wish I could jog my memory somehow because when I think about it it's not obvious at all.

Same with that snowman rolling head part, I should have had trouble with it, but I don't remember and today I just know somehow.

[Anonymous No.1331870]

>>1331848
>I had this game since I was 6 and been playing it every year or two from start to finish, and I never had trouble with that star even when I was little.


I don't even know how a kid is supposed to figure that out. I got lucky doing it, I was just randomly shooting myself around the level and happened to hit the wall.

[Anonymous No.1331945]

>>1331273
Fish have gills
Humans don't

[Anonymous No.1331949]

>>1331848
I ended up getting it because I was terrified of the big blue cube things as a kid and they gave me really bad anxiety, so I tried to shoot myself up from the cannon where you get the wall star but missed and ended up breaking the wall and finding the star.

[Anonymous No.1331982]

>>1331945
Or do they?

[Anonymous No.1332242]

>>1327878
>Blast Away The Wall
This is exactly what I was going to bring up. No idea how I worked it out in the end, probably the least obvious star in the game.

[Anonymous No.1332280]

>>1326396
>Favorite
Lethal Lava Land because green-shell-surfing for 1ups could literally have been a game in itself and I would have played it
>Worst
Rainbow Ride. It felt like too much of a break with the rest of the game, being just 3D platforming rather than multi-pathed exploration. In something like the recent 3D Mario games it would have been right at home, but in SM64 it's out of place
>Hardest Star
the 100 coin star on Tick Tock Clock because you have to try to do the red coins with moving platforms.

[Anonymous No.1332332]

For those of you who can't remember how you figured out Blast Away the Wall, it's because there's a big line in the texture right at the breakable part. Pic related

[Anonymous No.1332489]

>>1327930
>>1327083
>>1327020
>>1326724

You can just hit R to place the camera behind Mario you know. The flat area on top of the roof is actually pretty wide so it's extremely easy once the camera isn't working against you.

[Anonymous No.1332502]

>>1327175

>somebody else understands that feel

[Anonymous No.1332510]

>Favorite Stage
Shifting Sand Land. Awesome atmosphere, inside of the pyramid is cool, boss fight, get to use cannons and flight cap

>Worst Stage
Big Boo's Haunt. Cool setting but it's a really dull level.

>Hardest Star
I don't know, I've never been able to get all of them though.

[Anonymous No.1332512]

>>1332332
Which doesn't display when you're playing on the average CRT.

[Anonymous No.1332513]

>>1332332
speedrunners can get it without the cannon by dropping down from the platform above and pressing A within a 2-3 frame window. I've never been able to do it.

[Anonymous No.1332515]

I'm not trying to brag but I've never understood why people found the 100 coins on rainbow ride so hard. Do people try to ride the carpet the whole way? You don't have to do that, you can stay mostly near the beginning. Most of the coins are in the red coin area, with that blue coin switch. I actually thought there were several 100 coin stars that were harder to get.

[Anonymous No.1332519]

>Favorite Stage
Anything with a shell or vertical
>Worst Stage
water levels
>Hardest Star
Koopa the Quick can be pretty tough the second time around

This thread reminds me i have to finish Super Mario 64 Deluxe.

[Anonymous No.1334871]

>>1331545
I pretty much agree with you on this, even though I've posted differently ITT, but what's this "stomp the whomp" thing I keep hearing about? Refresh my memory.

[Anonymous No.1334873]

>>1334871
tick tock clock level.

you have to go all the way to the top of the map. naturally, it has very tricky platforming.

[Anonymous No.1334883]

>>1334873
Oh, okay... Even though I can't really remember, this thread got me wanting to play SM64 100% again. I started out today ready to go but I noticed how absolutely horrible it looked on my flat-screen. I should probably lurk a few more CRT threads (as if there aren't 7 on /vr/ at any given time). I recall having to go all the way to the top for some other star, but that sounds right. Tick Tock Clock is tricky all around IMO.

[Anonymous No.1335297]

>>1327169

I just played it last night, 100 coins on rainbow ride is easy, I only got 4 of the blue coins too.

There are definitely harder levels to get 100 coins on.