Heretic/Hexen thread.

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Heretic/Hexen thread. Anonymous Wed Dec 18 16:40:25 2013 No.1282230 [DELETED]

Old one died nastily, so here we are again. Let's discuss everything about Heretic and Hexen.

Click this link if you want to play or if you want to find new wads to try out: http://pastebin.com/R6akNhcJ

The Serpent Riders await...

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 18 16:46:55 2013 No.1282243 File: 2.59 MB, 1433x1055, noobs.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Here, take a gander at this. It's just... bizarre. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Wb_4rrDbf0

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 18 16:51:55 2013 No.1282249 You know, this doesn't need it's own thread... the doom thread talks about this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 18 16:53:25 2013 No.1282251 >>1282249 >You know, this doesn't need it's own thread It does tho

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 18 16:54:55 2013 No.1282256 fucking Heretic will always be my favorite retro shooter >dat music >dat crossbow >dat chickuns

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 18 17:48:59 2013 No.1282351 I dunno about everyone else but the Hexen soundtrack is really something. It all seems mystical and secretive, fits the theme of the levels so well. Also dat Shadow Wood music...

Anonymous Wed Dec 18 18:06:15 2013 No.1282373

Here's my obligatory post every time I see one of these threads...

I have a Hexen server that's been around for a while. It comes up from 10pm-10am (pacific time) every day. If anyone would like to play than please feel free.

I used to have regulars from a nightly thread on /v/ about a year ago, but that time has passed. I would love to see some activity again the game is great fun.

>dm server
Name: Time for Hexen dm
IP: vrfps.servegame.com:6112
>coop server
Name: Time for Hexen co-op
IP: vrfps.servegame.com:1200

They are run through Zandronum, which is the new version of the Skulltag source port.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 18 18:59:33 2013 No.1282467 Anyone know why I would get a "Server Limit Exceeded" message when I try to browse for mp servers on Hexen only?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 10:36:54 2013 No.1283775 >>1282467 Install gentoo

Anonymous Thu Dec 19 12:09:30 2013 No.1283883

>>1282351

I liked the music and ambience of it too. Hexen had lots of nice touches, not to mention the almighty ACS going on. Like how Korax maliciously taunts you at the opening of each new hub, just even from the player's perspective there were lots of cool little ideas evident in the game. I was so frustrated that the map layout and some of the pacing always prevented me from liking Hexen.

I just thought of searching for these, nice to see somebody uploaded them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9LAYRHjI9k

Also they should've kept the Heresiarch as Korax. Turning Korax into a many-limbed dragon-insect pixel beast really messed around the sense of continuity in the whole Serpent Riders concept for me. Gameplay-wise I ultimately liked Heretic more, but Hexen had greater potential imo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 17:14:18 2013 No.1284384 File: 1.62 MB, 2300x2251, Iron Hereshambler.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Related fusion from /v/.

Anonymous Thu Dec 19 17:38:19 2013 No.1284447

>dat Shadow Wood music...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po2dd2vq5XY
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vENgqRRagqs

THE BIG DEBATE!

Now I will say this right now:
I still have my old Compaq 486 33mhz (with Hexen still barely working) and the song in that first link seems to have an extra track that I can't hear for the life of me when I try to play it.
It's a (probably) severely worn-out Sound Blaster 1 card, and I'm afraid to open up the comp to see if there's anything I should change.
So...
Play Hexen on PC with "half" the music, or play Hexen 64 on console with "all" music?

Anonymous Thu Dec 19 17:52:48 2013 No.1284469

>>1284447
Are you saying that your current PC is the old one? I couldn't imagine playing Hexen without all the music, so N64 I guess. I also find the n64 soundtrack to completely blow the PC's out of the water for all but a few tracks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfOLAOjVTA0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuWDVeqCgwI

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 18:03:22 2013 No.1284483 >>1283883 I found the levels to just be abject areas full of cryptic puzzles as well the baffling twists and turn. I guess it really gave a sense of genuine adventure more than anything else, I love it for that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 18:06:23 2013 No.1284486 >>1284384 The middle looks a little retarded

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 18:10:52 2013 No.1284496 >>1284486 The robe could be a bit longer but otherwise I think it looks great; it has a nice mix of all three enemies.

Anonymous Thu Dec 19 18:12:22 2013 No.1284503

>>1284469
>Are you saying that your current PC is the old one?
Well not really, the PC that I replay Hexen (as well as a whole bunch of other games) on is an old Compaq Presario (I think the name is, it's got Windows 3.11 and Norton Commander for DOS), but I only use it for old games nowadays.

The thing is, PC Hexen for me (on that computer) lacks that "eeeeEEEE EEEEEOOooooEEEE-EEEE" higher-pitched humming part that kinda-sorta sounds like a dragging violin. So my nostalgia value for Hexen doesn't quite match up with what other people have, since I never really heard the whole thing (apparently).

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 18:12:52 2013 No.1284501 File: 2.46 MB, 2148x2165, Voretaur Protector.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1284384 another

Anonymous Thu Dec 19 18:12:52 2013 No.1284502

>>1284483
>I found the levels to just be abject areas full of cryptic puzzles as well the baffling twists and turn

Same experience here. I felt like I would need a telepathic link to some of the switches I pulled just to work out what the fuck I had just done.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 18:14:52 2013 No.1284506 >>1284496 Ya, I think the skin color should be darker and there should be a purple luminescence around the hands.

Anonymous Thu Dec 19 18:23:08 2013 No.1284525

>>1284502

Isn't that part of the charm though?

I mean no other game in that time, or ever since has put together such a convoluted experience just for the sake of it.

Imagine being a kid again and exploring those hostile hub areas trying to find what the hell is where and what switch does what, that's the kind of thing which has always stuck with me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 18:37:08 2013 No.1284549 File: 990 KB, 1793x1575, Ultimate Spookfusion.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1284501 and one more for good measure.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 21:07:20 2013 No.1284785 >>1284549 I dont quite know how to feel about this

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 21:18:20 2013 No.1284798 >>1284785 Rattled?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 21:20:20 2013 No.1284801 File: 9 KB, 176x169, 1386815374383_zps6d998d48.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1284798 It's getting under my skin, man

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 21:23:50 2013 No.1284805 >>1284801 Feeling boned, huh?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 21:32:50 2013 No.1284817 File: 88 KB, 212x300, 1358058902448.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1284384 >all the Heresiarch fusions are missing the Serpent Riders' trident symbol

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 21:56:37 2013 No.1284847 Oh shi... >Click random image on 4chan homepage >See thread dedicated to Heretic/Hexen >MFW I was just playing Heretic 10 minutes ago! It's damn good to see some appreciation for the classics!

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 22:11:37 2013 No.1284881 File: 77 KB, 1024x768, 23626.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Heretic/Hexen threads always on life support >Doom threads don't talk about them Shit sucks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 22:24:37 2013 No.1284907 File: 1.69 MB, 480x360, Hexen Fighter10.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1284847 It really is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 22:31:37 2013 No.1284918 >>1284881 There's just not nearly as many mods that make Heretic/Hexen more enjoyable. It also doesn't help that they use different palettes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 22:33:10 2013 No.1284921 File: 29 KB, 334x471, 374523.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1284918 >make more enjoyable I don't understand.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 22:58:10 2013 No.1284949 >>1284921 Hopefully he meant "even more" enjoyable.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 23:33:58 2013 No.1285010 File: 25 KB, 656x662, 1387514012042.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Best class? Yeah

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 23:41:29 2013 No.1285026 >>1285010 Serious question. Is there any reason not to pick the warrior?

Anonymous Thu Dec 19 23:51:16 2013 No.1285051
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>>1285026
Fun? Preference? I enjoy the Fighter but less than the Mage and Cleric.

Now that I think about it, it might be the hand casted spells the other two have that the Fighter doesn't. Frost Shards, Arc, and Firestorm are some of my favorite weapons the genre.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 19 23:57:45 2013 No.1285063 >>1285051 >in the genre

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:08:47 2013 No.1285098 >>1284921 I do not remember this texture at all, where does it show up (if it's in the game)? without the christmas hats I mean

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:11:18 2013 No.1285112 File: 31 KB, 543x273, The Serpent Riders.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1285098 Hexen 2 expansion, near the end of the game.

Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:11:47 2013 No.1285113

>>1285010
He is the best class by so far that it makes the game less fun. His flechettes... were just a bad idea.
Cleric > Fighter > Mage in usefullness/easiness
Fighter > Cleric > Mage in terms of fun.

As amazing as the Arc of Death is, her Frost Shards and Crystal Wand are just painful to use.

Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:21:17 2013 No.1285130

>>1285113
I'd say the classes are fairly well balanced among each other. The cleric has, without a doubt, the worst starting weapon and his 2nd and 3rd weapons are weaker than the fighter/mage's. On the flip side he's got the strongest final weapon. His flechettes are very good, much better than the others'.

The fighter is always strong and is the least reliant on mana, all while having the lowest mana costs. The only time I truly had a hard time with him was against wendigos without the hammer.

The mage requires the most effort to get the most of what he can do. The wand is weak, yes, but good and efficient as fuck. Frost Shards are ass unless you're in melee, and if you are it hits as hard as Timon's Axe. Arc is easily the strongest 3rd weapon and Bloodscourge can potentially do as much damage as Wraithverge.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 00:35:47 2013 No.1285156 File: 2.29 MB, 336x251, Hexen Pot.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Immersive.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 06:21:53 2013 No.1285664 >>1285156 Chest bump

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 06:27:53 2013 No.1285678 >>1285010 Always the best class. This goes for all games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 07:13:11 2013 No.1285735 >>1284881 >>1284918 It can easily be done though, it's not more complicated to throw things together for Hexen than it is DOOM, in fact it should be easier.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 14:53:09 2013 No.1286309 What's the opinion of Deathkings of the Dark Citadel?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 16:18:48 2013 No.1286447 >>1286309 Bad example of an expansion yet still very good. What I mean is that it features no new class, weapons, enemies, items, nothing; just the new hubs. However the hubs/levels are outstanding.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 16:59:35 2013 No.1286528 >>1286447 True enough. New items & enemies would have been amazing. Probably if they added a character line-up that didn't consist of Baratus, Parias and Daedolon then it would pushed the boundaries even further?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 21:42:02 2013 No.1286851 File: 83 KB, 647x966, 1376706950679.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 20 21:53:02 2013 No.1286870 File: 48 KB, 471x644, 23525.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 01:23:06 2013 No.1287110 >>1286528 >1 new weapon per class >a new class with everything that comes with it >1-2 new common enemies >1 new high level enemy something akin to the Arch-Vile >Tome of Power returns That's what I'd want in a Hexen expansion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 01:40:35 2013 No.1287129 >>1286870 Heretic's weaponry was so bad, god damn

Anonymous Sat Dec 21 01:46:35 2013 No.1287136

>>1287129
I think they did a great job converting Doom's weapons into fantasy equivalents, the crossbow, dragon claw, and gauntlets being my favorites, but it was lazy as fuck. The one new weapon we got was utter shit in every conceivable way.

Thankfully Raven stepped up their game for Hexen.

Anonymous Sat Dec 21 14:49:46 2013 No.1287876

>>1286870

Y'know I've only just realized that the Dragon Claw is attached to a fist...

>>1286851

I'd be inclined to put frost shards in death wyvern tier and move the Sapphire wand down, as useful as it is.

I really like Firestorm also so I'd personally put it one slot above.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 15:19:56 2013 No.1287914 >>1287129 >not of the absolute correct opinion that the Gauntlets of the Necromancer is the single best weapon in all of videogame history

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 15:30:26 2013 No.1287935 What's the best source port to play Hexen in linux?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 15:34:26 2013 No.1287938 >>1287935 Gentoo No really, follow this link instead: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=10436&start=570

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 15:38:56 2013 No.1287947 >>1287935 Depends. Overall would be ZDoom. Multiplayer would be Zandronum. Closest-to-the-original would be Chocolate Hexen at least once it gets a bit more testing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 15:52:56 2013 No.1287975 >>1287938 >>1287947 Looking at the torrents some are around 20MB while others are around 400MB. Why is there such a huge difference?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 16:18:31 2013 No.1288014 >>1287975 I honestly have no idea. Do the larger ones have bundled wad files or anything?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 16:22:01 2013 No.1288020 >>1287876 Same, when I was a kid i thought it was attached to his butt

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 18:10:34 2013 No.1288201 >>1288020 That's retarded... How would that even

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 18:12:05 2013 No.1288209 >>1288201 Elven Magic

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 18:15:04 2013 No.1288216 Have these game aged well? Are there HR textures available?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 18:17:35 2013 No.1288220 >>1288216 >Have these game aged well? With the sourceports available, I'd definitely say so.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 21 19:09:34 2013 No.1288321 File: 1.44 MB, 900x950, 27695182.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Japan, what are you doing?

Anonymous Sun Dec 22 05:12:35 2013 No.1289158

>>1287876
Frost Shards requires so much effort compared to the Mage's other weapons it just isn't worth it. For a high mana cost, needing to be in melee, projectiles that can be reflected, piss-poor damage at ranged, and a very slow rate of fire, they're simply outmatched. In deathmatch however, Frost Shards is killer.

I love Firestorm as well but it has its drawbacks: it chews through green mana like no tomorrow, has a maximum range, and is pretty random in its damage. It can take anywhere from 1-4 shots to kill a single centaur; that and the little aoe flames that spawn from a direct hit, while strong, rarely ever get used.

That's my reasoning for those, at least.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 05:38:05 2013 No.1289176 >>1288321 ワォ―リ―を見つけた!!

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 06:24:54 2013 No.1289220 File: 64 KB, 746x523, 1362422008489.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1289176

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 06:28:24 2013 No.1289227 >>1288321 Fucking Waldo

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 08:23:07 2013 No.1289374 >>1288321 That image is grand. I can never find many Hexen images when I search for them so I'd be interested to know where you guys find this stuff.

Anonymous Sun Dec 22 08:35:36 2013 No.1289385

>>1289158

I really like the stun effect that the Frost shards have, you can more or less pain chance every enemy in close quarters.

Firestorm is also pretty good for crowds of low tier enemies because you can just stun lock them and switch to the Serpent Staff to finish them off.

With that said though, they're way more effective in multiplayer.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 15:56:23 2013 No.1289963 File: 629 KB, 1800x1776, 25794250.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1289374 This guy is the only source of Hexen on pixiv. http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=4102206 Watch out for traps.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 19:39:54 2013 No.1290421 >>1289963 Oh wow, this album is too lewd

Anonymous Sun Dec 22 20:55:13 2013 No.1290556
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I'm using doomsday 1.12.2 and I get pic related in both heretic and hexen.
The actual gameplay looks fine, only the init and menu screens looks corrupted.
Do any of you guys know how to fix this?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 22 22:03:13 2013 No.1290645 File: 380 KB, 1496x1672, 39222536.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1290421 yeah.... hes made some shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 05:06:55 2013 No.1291264 >>1290556 nvm, fixed

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 17:25:24 2013 No.1292303 File: 268 KB, 640x1103, 897423347.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 18:01:57 2013 No.1292369 >>1292303 Y tehwe nâd o tanos Y tehwe nachos

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 18:57:43 2013 No.1292528 >>1292303 they must've done that on purpose or something, because Ravens

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 19:07:44 2013 No.1292554 File: 89 KB, 750x563, 346879.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1292528 Definitely. >Raven Software >Corvus >Korax Corax >the raven disciple thing >one of D'Sparil's taunts backwards says something about ravens

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 19:32:19 2013 No.1292585 >>1292554 Welp, this is goes deeper than I thought...

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 23 21:27:22 2013 No.1292805 File: 1.77 MB, 384x288, Hexen Fighter.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1292585 Hexen 2 has the Raven Staff for the Necromancer and the Ring of Flight, which is shaped like a raven. But those are obvious. That's all I can think of.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 07:09:47 2013 No.1293592 File: 162 KB, 1300x900, Hexen 2 - Paladin - Drawthread.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fuck Skull Wizards.

Anonymous Tue Dec 24 08:17:37 2013 No.1293642

>>1293592

Shadow Wizards are naturally worse, luckily I had enough Signs of the Ovinomancer (I rarely use most of my inventory items throughout the Heretic/Hexen series for some reason) to sheepify and easily squash most of them on the way to the Horseman of War during my first playthrough of Hexen 2 as the Paladin.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 08:21:37 2013 No.1293647 >>1292369 Fucking Yahweh eating all the nachos, who does he think he is?

Anonymous Tue Dec 24 09:55:27 2013 No.1293745

>>1286851
You know, this is it. The insanely badass weaponry. The fantastical settings and enemies.

This is why I cannot play a fucking modern shooter game. It's just lacking. Not to mention most are on consoles and I have this thing about playing a shooter on a console

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 09:56:57 2013 No.1293746 >>1292303 First off, holy shit can never unsee again. Second: I always thought they were saying "i want to steal your blue jeans"

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 24 16:05:18 2013 No.1294252 File: 913 KB, 500x375, 1367227197936.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1293642 >fire a SotOvinomancer >wizard teleports right before it hits

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 03:01:20 2013 No.1295039 File: 79 KB, 1086x546, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Merry Christmas, mortals.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 03:23:51 2013 No.1295050 >>1282230 Did anyone ever make a mod where you can pick up purple mana (and have purple mana items?). Seeing an enemy with purple mana floating around his head made me obsessed with it.

Anonymous Wed Dec 25 03:38:52 2013 No.1295061
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>>1295050
Not that I'm aware of. I don't think I've ever played a Hexen mod that added new weapons that actually fit in the game; it's always crazy overpowered shit or lazy Heretic additions.

Anonymous Wed Dec 25 03:46:21 2013 No.1295067

>>1295061

thanks for the image (and infos); really loved this enemy.

also, while we are here...

I think the most absurd thing about the game was how overpowered the cleric flechettes were (might have a spelling error there).

Boss battle? just leave a trap of a few of them. final boss of first hexen goes down in seconds.

Room of guys behind a door? use flechettes and repulsion..

Anonymous Wed Dec 25 03:53:21 2013 No.1295071
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>>1295067
Yeah, the Cleric's flechettes were really good if you knew how to use them. Most people say they're shit, which I simply don't understand. As you said you could block entryways with them, drop a bunch on bosses, or, depending on what version you're running, repulsion them which makes them do a fuck ton of direct damage, gibbing anything it touches.

His flechettes really make up for the fact that his starting weapon is terrible.

Anonymous Wed Dec 25 03:58:51 2013 No.1295074

>>1288201
Hey man, when I was young I thought butt too. I played with the HUD on so that picture is the first time I'd seen his wrist out the back of it. I told my mum, who played the game too, that it's on his butt, and she said no, it's a helmet on his head

Which looking back made ever LESS sense

Anonymous Wed Dec 25 04:06:21 2013 No.1295079

>>1295071

yeah. cleric final weapon and flechettes are game-breakingly overpowered.

mage was fun for the close-range form of the ice hands, and the lightning.

fighter was my favorite due to the satisfaction of taking down all sorts of difficult enemies with the axe. (I guess the expansion forced you to do this.. was quite hard on the hardest setting, the dragon things fired very quickly..)

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 05:15:51 2013 No.1295119 >>1295067 >Room of guys behind a door? WRAITHVERGE

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 10:08:08 2013 No.1295304 File: 26 KB, 673x604, 1367915906292_zps7653ed87.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1295074 Heh

Anonymous Wed Dec 25 10:25:38 2013 No.1295308

>>1295071
>>1295079

Aside from blocking off choke points, they were mainly useful when enemies were cornered or stuck on the level geometry for whatever reason, but other than that, the Mage & Fighter variations are considerably better in wide open spaces with shit tons of low-mid tier enemies.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 10:27:09 2013 No.1295309 >>1282243 I found this quite interesting

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 13:48:04 2013 No.1295563 >>1293647 He is, who he is

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 25 17:52:03 2013 No.1295885 I couldn't find a Hexen Christmas wad so here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcXnZIBe4cw Hope you had a good day, fellow adventurers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 03:27:20 2013 No.1296623 File: 2.64 MB, 384x288, Hexen Cleric5.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1295119 One of the coolest weapons in video games.

Anonymous Thu Dec 26 16:46:20 2013 No.1297791
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Is it just me, or are the secrets in Heretic generally much easier to find than in Doom 1 or 2?

Also, Iron Lich tornadoes generate leaves even on surfaces where they logically shouldn't, like water or so.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 18:41:07 2013 No.1297998 >>1297791 >Is it just me, or are the secrets in Heretic generally much easier to find than in Doom 1 or 2? Ya for some reason, this is true. Not even sure why. I'm guessing it's the textures?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 26 19:57:30 2013 No.1298152 >>1297998 They like to make the walls a little darker, kinda like ROTT does. The only problem with that is that they don't show up with the torch item.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 27 13:27:39 2013 No.1299624 >>1298152 Well most of the secret areas are blatantly given away by banners, the trident symbol or misaligned textures. But then again, after playing DOOM/Heretic extensively, you sorta develop a knack for finding secrets anyway.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 27 23:32:50 2013 No.1300509 File: 22 KB, 319x460, 1387588528090.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhREiu1PLlA

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 28 18:32:52 2013 No.1301763 >>1300509 >Dat Japanese dub

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 28 21:51:04 2013 No.1302170 >>1301763 English > French > Japanese > German The Japanese dub was a little too echoey in my opinion, and the German one was too comical to take seriously; it sounds like Korax arrived straight from Castle Wolfenstein.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 29 04:34:28 2013 No.1302661 >>1302170 Ya the German dub wasn't fitting at all, it didn't compliment the theme well. A Russian one might've been cool though...

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 29 13:52:11 2013 No.1303207 >>1295071 if you use a disk of repulsion on the flechettes gas cloud, it deals massive damage to anything it hits

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 29 14:48:28 2013 No.1303301 Thought on Serpents: Resurrection? You think they'll make it WoC compatible? Just played through ToC with WoC. Would certainly recommend!

Anonymous Sun Dec 29 16:52:35 2013 No.1303497

>>1303301

It's definitely a great mod, it adds a lot of depth to the gameplay as well which is really neat.

Not sure about you guys, but I'd really like to see a Hexen wad with prequel events before Korax. Possibly more RPG elements with NPCs and stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 29 20:38:19 2013 No.1303847 Am I the only one who thinks that the crossbow is the most useful weapon in Heretic?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 29 20:44:50 2013 No.1303857 >>1303847 Is there anyone who doesn't share that opinion? It's essentially the shotgun of the game and thus shares its usefulness.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 29 21:53:09 2013 No.1303998 >>1282230 I prefer Heretic over Hexen I always hated that "puzzle thing" in Hexen. "Go for this zone, push a button, go back, go here and repeat"

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 04:35:18 2013 No.1304746 I really love Hexen, but there just sin'ta whole lot of content. Played through the original, Serpents:Resurrection and Tower of Chaos. Few other games have the same feel to them. You guys hyped for this? http://hellraid.com/

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 05:15:52 2013 No.1304776 I thought Heretic II was one of the best TPSs I've ever played. It's not as well known as the originals, but did anyone else like it?

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 05:24:51 2013 No.1304780
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>>1304776
I thought Heretic 2 was a lot of fun but the story was absolutely retarded, and I hated the retcon to the Tomes of Power. The removal of the inventory system was strange too.

Still, playing not-Jedi Knight was great. I really loved how they incorporated the weapon/ammo system of Heretic and the blue/green mana from Hexen. Not to mention the staff combat, that shit was fun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 06:00:08 2013 No.1304808 >>1303998 Winding puzzles was the MO for Hexen after all anonymous

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 06:22:08 2013 No.1304836 >>1304808 I just wish they weren't so counter-intuitive. When I replayed it for the 4th time recently I STILL needed to break out a walkthrough twice. A puzzle is only engaging if it can be solved with logic and reason, not brute force and tenacity.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 07:58:00 2013 No.1304883 File: 250 KB, 250x440, 123657.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1304836 To be fair they aren't really puzzles, despite what the game says.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 14:35:36 2013 No.1305242 >>1304746 >http://hellraid.com/ That actually looks really good, where did you hear about this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 14:38:06 2013 No.1305254 >>1304836 I dont think any game has ever done such a thing since. Its unique in it's own right, though it doesnt necessarily appeal to everyone

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:57:59 2013 No.1305394

>>1305254
I like the game, I really do. I just think some element haven't really stood the test of time. I had the same feeling when I played Shadow Warrior.
Aimlessly wandering around mostly empty rooms gets really old after you've wiped out all monsters. All because you can't find that one switch hidden behind a tree. It's not challenging or exciting, just dull.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:43:32 2013 No.1305642 >>1285130 I disagree. They lack balance at multiplayer deathmatch - cleric with assembled weapon, icon of the defender and krater of might is insane compared to 2 other classes with same setup. >captcha cyclopedists wngiese

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:55:03 2013 No.1305674

>>1305642
It's the exact opposite from my experience. Wraithverge is ass in deathmatch as the ghosts are easily out runnable. The mace is, again, useless, the staff is decent only because it's super fast rate of fire, and Firestorm is pretty godly. Whereas the fighter can 1-3 shot anyone depending on his weapon and the mage has huge range advantage over the others, mostly with his nearly hitscan wand and frost shards.

And inventory items, besides Discs and Flechettes, are pretty unbalanced.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 05:23:45 2013 No.1306734 >>1305674 Firestorm and shards are bananas in multiplayer

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 06:29:19 2013 No.1306781 >>1305394 muh adventure

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 07:17:19 2013 No.1306809 Probably not relevant to this thread, but I remember having a lot of fun playing Hexen 64 with my friends back in the day.. Good times.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 09:11:44 2013 No.1306909 >>1306809 Why wouldn't it be? Hexen 64 is both Hexen-related and /vr/-related. >>1305394 I found Hexen fine, but Hexen II for the first time is ridiculous with its secrets and puzzles, especially the switch hunting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 09:34:44 2013 No.1306964 >>1306909 >especially the switch hunting. this goddamit, also navigating the levels like the swamp is a nightmare

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 10:02:44 2013 No.1307002

>>1306964
>>1306909

For me it's the reverse, I actually got more brain-ache from Hexen than Hexen 2. But in 2 I can remember this fucking diabolical floor tile puzzle in the ruined Egyptian-esque part of the game. You needed to walk across the floor slabs in the proper sequence to reach the artifact at the other end, and for the life of me I just could not work it out. Out all the Hexens I thought Portal of Praevus tortured you the least with switch/item hunts, though it still has its moments.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 10:53:20 2013 No.1307054 >>1282373 This should be up right now, correct? I can't connect to it. Unless he typo'd and meant to put 10am-10pm.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 12:00:54 2013 No.1307128

>>1307002
I don't understand it either. Supposedly it's based on a wall you can find with three tile patterns, but which one it uses is random. But in the SDA speedrun he pushes the first three tiles left-to-right, so who knows. Maybe the map script exists somewhere?

Also one heinous bug in Hexen is in Gibbet where a script checks for a certain number of enemies remaining before letting you advance. The problem is if you kill multiple enemies at once you can end up never triggering it, and thus get stuck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 20:51:23 2013 No.1307912 >>1307002 >>1307128 >that Egypt tile puzzle Fuck that shit, noclip straight through. Worst puzzle ever after that water one in RE3.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 1 04:18:00 2014 No.1308627 File: 142 KB, 350x447, 1331017459067.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Happy New Year's, heretics.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 1 05:18:30 2014 No.1308668 >>1308627 That image is awesome

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 1 21:23:46 2014 No.1310159 File: 546 KB, 1021x755, hhh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Have some further retardation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLvRbE1yE8Q headphone users beware

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 01:12:33 2014 No.1310614 File: 180 KB, 900x701, 1388642561720.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fresh from the /v/ fusion thread, Korax+Eidolon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 05:53:14 2014 No.1310923 >>1310614 The head seems way too big

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 06:02:15 2014 No.1310928 >>1310923 It's just the perspective, as far as I can tell. His body is further in the background while he's leaning towards the viewer.

Anonymous Thu Jan 2 06:29:45 2014 No.1310953

Just finished first 3 episodes of Heretic for the first time. Fun game, pretty levels, but amount of levers gave me cancer.

This is really, really bad thing to do. You can't imagine how often did I panic because I wasn't sure if game didn't actually glitch. And then went to wild goose hunt for missing switch.

I, frankly, happy that "non-linear" level design has phased out in modern gaming.

Anonymous Thu Jan 2 06:41:16 2014 No.1310965

>>1310953

There is non-linear and there is Hexen-tier tho. Although I actually have a great affection for what Raven tried to do with it.

In terms of linear, now we more or less just have run down a corridor, follow the instructions, mash this button for QTE and watch a cut-scene...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 06:56:15 2014 No.1310974 >>1310965 ***Should've been more clear, a lot of levels in Heretic suffer from Hexen-tier syndrome also.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 18:35:54 2014 No.1312028 man, Hexen II is pretty damn frustrating... Why the hell am I fighting spiders?

Anonymous Thu Jan 2 18:36:54 2014 No.1312030

>>1310953
>I, frankly, happy that "non-linear" level design has phased out in modern gaming.

And this is what makes you look like a jackass. Why can't we have both? I personally hate where the genre has gone, but it wouldn't bother me if we had a little variety. Games like Doom, Hexen, and Call of Duty can coexist, you know, and be happy that a group of people get fucked out of what they enjoy is fucked up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 18:43:24 2014 No.1312038 File: 246 KB, 144x205, skullwiz.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1312028 >play on the last two difficulties >these fucks in the very first room What were they thinking?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 18:52:54 2014 No.1312046 File: 155 KB, 256x308, Heretic_II_Coverart.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hi guys, can I join?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 18:55:24 2014 No.1312051 >>1312046 Pretty fun game, even if it didn't feel like Heretic at all.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 2 19:18:24 2014 No.1312081 File: 212 KB, 400x400, scrubs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1312046 I mean sure why not, but it ain't easy being a scrub...

Anonymous Thu Jan 2 19:21:54 2014 No.1312085

>>1312038

Those things are the worst. What's more weird is that they didn't show up when playing as the Necromancer but did when I chose the Paladin.

Combat is a little flaky and for some reason, after about 10 mins of playing the character kept on turning left constantly.

Captcha: tomebab McClure

Anonymous Thu Jan 2 19:24:54 2014 No.1312093
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>>1312085
I'm guessing it's because the paladin's starting weapon isn't complete shit like the other 3. Not sure about the Demoness, haven't played the base game as her in a long time.

Anonymous Thu Jan 2 20:21:47 2014 No.1312214

>>1312093

The Crusader and Assassin aren't really that bad, but Necromancer's is absolutely atrocious. I'm really liking the Assassin's crossbow though, it's good for mid range combat, I might just stick with her for now.

Other than that though, every enemy in this game so far is fucking annoying.

Anonymous Thu Jan 2 23:44:14 2014 No.1312596
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>>1312214
The Assassin is easily my least favorite class, her weapons are just so bland and unfitting in my opinion.

Demoness = Necromancer > Crusader just because of the Lightbringer > Paladin > Assassin

The Crusader has the coolest Tome'd effects, though.

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 00:36:04 2014 No.1312681

>>1312214
>>1312596
>The Assassin is easily my least favorite class, her weapons are just so bland and unfitting in my opinion.
I SPIT on your opinion, ass hole. Assassin's sticky bombs are the best weapon in the game and one of the most fun to use. I think it fits her character perfectly.

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 00:44:05 2014 No.1312696
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>>1312681
I can't say an assassin should be running around with hand grenades and a staff that shoots bugs. The katar and crossbow are fitting but bland I think. Judging by her passive bonuses, she's clearly meant to be stealthy, but it never comes together.

>sticky bombs are the best weapon in the game and one of the most fun to use

gif related, Bone Shards Master Race.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 10:41:51 2014 No.1313520 File: 98 KB, 265x398, assassin6cg.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1312696 Haven't been able to use the Demoness just yet, I'm finding it a lot easier using the Assassin than using anything else.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 14:42:46 2014 No.1313843 Is it even possible to be stealthy as the Assassin?

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 14:53:46 2014 No.1313852

>>1313520
Demoness is pretty damn powerful, and definitely the easiest to start with as her first weapon is ranged. Also tip with her: To use the level 3 slowfall ability you have to hold the jump button down. I didn't figure this out for a while.

>>1313843
Not really. Worse, the three weapons appropriate to her class are strongly eclipsed by the Scarab Staff in every situation.

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 15:19:20 2014 No.1313925

>>1313843

Doubt it, I don't even think there are any mechanics for being able to be stealthy without alerting everything in existence once you shoot your crossbow.

>>1313852

Is it strange that I can't see the option to pick her when I'm running the game?

Anonymous Fri Jan 3 17:10:41 2014 No.1314221

>>1313925
Demoness was added in the expansion pack Portals of Praevus, and while she isn't selectable for the original, I believe you can use the console. The only quirk is that the sheep catapult in Barbican, you have to press jump while on it as shooting it doesn't work for her.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 17:33:57 2014 No.1314278 >>1314221 Strange, I have an ultimate pack which comes bundled with the expansion, I'll try using the console though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 17:51:27 2014 No.1314313 >>1314278 Try running h2mp.exe instead? Or maybe use the source port Hammer of Thyrion instead.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 17:56:27 2014 No.1314323 >>1314313 I've been using GLHexen2/Glh2, I'll try Hammer of Thyrion now though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 3 18:01:57 2014 No.1314336 >>1314323 Wait, seems to be the same thing. Just downloaded the Hammer of Thyrion pack, seems that most of it was already included in the ultimate version.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 05:30:38 2014 No.1315612 File: 1.08 MB, 1024x768, 1388831421518.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So apparently the Stone of Summoning imp gives xp for hitting and killing it. About 2600 xp to be exact. So if you need a quick level up, use a Tome and kill the fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 05:39:25 2014 No.1315621 File: 58 KB, 640x400, hexen2_07.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] why Hexen 2 never gets any love? it's a fine game on it's own

Anonymous Sat Jan 4 05:45:56 2014 No.1315627
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>>1315621
>big, empty levels
>generic enemies
>uninspired hubs Egypt/Rome/etc
>mostly uninspired weapons props to Bone Shards and the Lightbringer
>the original music is really bad

Those are my main reasons. I enjoy the game but it's definitely my least favorite int he Serpent Rider games. Though I very much like Portal of Praevus and the return of the Tome of Power is a big plus, which makes the Crusader actually fun.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 07:07:43 2014 No.1315675 File: 443 KB, 480x360, Hexen2 - Demoness1.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The Demoness is awesome. That is all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 07:08:44 2014 No.1315676 File: 427 KB, 480x360, Hexen2 - Demoness2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Sat Jan 4 07:34:30 2014 No.1315687

i played hexen coop yesterday for the first time via skulltag! we played for 3 hours, finished the seven portals map and reached sherwood, its a great game so far but what bothers me is that my win7 x64 laptop freezes the game for a second once per minute! I tried change from software to opengl, i tried zandronum and zdoom but they all create the same effect. the game runs fine inbetween those lags and i noticed that the processes in the taskmanager drop to 0% cpu usage, then the lag occurs and it gets back to like 60~80% usage. i searched different forums for a solution, but nothing i tried worked so far...

my buddies laptop with vista runs eveything without any problems! any help would be appreciated, we wanna finally finish this gem!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 09:26:06 2014 No.1315782 >>1282249 lol wtf just gtfo

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 17:24:05 2014 No.1316712 File: 16 KB, 493x402, watis.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1315627 Wat I didn't even know the Crusader could do that...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 18:22:52 2014 No.1316839 >>1315687 What are the specs of your laptop? Try running zdoom as an administrator also.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 4 19:52:26 2014 No.1316996 >>1316712 Yep. The Tome turns his warhammer in Mjolnir, according to deathmatch. It's pretty awesome.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 5 17:57:24 2014 No.1318135 >>1316996 So it's becomes kinda like the Hammer of Retribution then. I'm starting to like the Crusader a little more. Do people still play Hexen 2 multiplayer?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 01:37:05 2014 No.1319074 >>1318135 It's more like the Razor Wind from Turok, in that you throw it, wait, it hits something, and wait again as it returns to you. I don't know about multiplayer, I just dicked around with some bots.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 6 07:16:56 2014 No.1319495 I think Heretic II's Phoenix Box is one of the greatest weapons of any video game ever. This thread seems to be aimed more at the originals, but surely you played the second Heretic? If not, you need to...

Anonymous Mon Jan 6 11:45:40 2014 No.1319787

>>1319495
I'm partial to the Sphere of Annihilation spell myself.

I don't see a whole lot of Heretic 2 discussion probably because it's the black sheep of the series, and more often than not I see people surprised to learn that Heretic 2 and Hexen 2 even exist.

Anonymous Mon Jan 6 16:35:53 2014 No.1320353

>>1318135
I'd happily join in it if /vr/ wants to.

>>1319787
I'd probably play it a lot more if I didn't have to run it under Wine. Would really love to know why they never gave it the open source treatment like they did with Hexen II.

>>1319495
Storm Bow was pretty awesome too, especially when tome'd.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 7 03:07:03 2014 No.1321910 File: 867 KB, 320x240, Hexen2 - Necromancer.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Magic Missiles Felt so out of place compared the necro's other weapons.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 7 06:56:49 2014 No.1322194 >>1321910 Just think of them as Bone Spirits. Or maybe complain that a supposed Necromancer isn't doing any summoning except in the backstory.

Anonymous Tue Jan 7 09:27:08 2014 No.1322336

>>1284503

>The thing is, PC Hexen for me (on that computer) lacks that "eeeeEEEE EEEEEOOooooEEEE-EEEE" higher-pitched humming part that kinda-sorta sounds like a dragging violin. So my nostalgia value for Hexen doesn't quite match up with what other people have, since I never really heard the whole thing (apparently).

Tell me about it...

Growing up my computer didn't have a sound card so games like wolfenstien and DOOM sounded like garbled shit. I was not aware that the Nazis were actually speaking german until i was in my twenties.

Anonymous Tue Jan 7 13:31:53 2014 No.1322573

>>1319787

Heretic 2 has a lot of trouble running on PCs even. If you're downloading it, most of the available versions just force closed randomly.

It'd probably be better if it could run properly and had more open source availability as the other anon mentioned.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 7 13:35:06 2014 No.1322582 The first gameplay footage I saw of Portal of Praevius was a speedrun... How has this eluded me so much for so long? Where can I buy it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 7 13:47:36 2014 No.1322605 File: 763 KB, 1024x768, 1389120425542.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1322582 It's not on Steam or GoG but there appears to be some on Amazon, if you're willing to spend $60 for it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 7 20:46:31 2014 No.1323491 You guys tried the Heretic levels made in Quake? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMdzqJmKFUc

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 7 20:59:01 2014 No.1323518 I tried playing Heretic with Zdoom the other day, and I got music but no sound. Anyone know why that's happening?

Anonymous Tue Jan 7 21:42:05 2014 No.1323610

>>1323491
The more I look at this the more I am baffled why this wasn't done with Heretic or Hexen in Hexen II.

>>1323518
While this seems like a difficult thing to figure out, you should provide more information on your setup.

>>1322582
Watch the standard Hexen II one on SDA. The game is speedrunnable, and the Crusader is the best class for it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 7 21:47:35 2014 No.1323617 >>1323610 >and the Crusader is the best class for it Holy Strength + Lightbringer?

Anonymous Tue Jan 7 22:18:35 2014 No.1323673

>>1323617
No, primarily it's because he has the Meteor Staff which lets him rocket jump. He also has the Ice Mace which does very high damage when tome'd. Also his level 3 ability (Revivification) would help a bit, probably more than any of the other abilities.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 7 22:21:08 2014 No.1323696 >>1323518 Was about to ask if you had the fmodex.dll file in the folder, but since you can still hear music, it should be fine. Have you tried restarting the sound through the zdoom audio options?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 8 06:31:35 2014 No.1324554 supportive bump

Anonymous Wed Jan 8 08:19:11 2014 No.1324646

>>1282230

Is there any where that I can download Hexen, its expansion, Hexen II, Heretic, and heretic 2 for free?

I've found a few flash game versions of it floating around on the web, but no legitimate downloads.

Not really interested in piracy and I know games like other retro games lik Marathon are free to download.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 8 08:20:41 2014 No.1324648 >>1324646 >like like like I apologize for my shitty writing skills

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 8 10:01:04 2014 No.1324748 >>1324646 Heretic & Hexen is available for download in the OP. If you're worried about legal stuff then you probably shouldn't be for games more than a decade old which were (and still are) absolutely open source.

Anonymous Wed Jan 8 14:56:37 2014 No.1325120

Yo. I'm putting heXercise's weapons into Wrath of Cronos because they're my two favorite things, in case anyone else is interested. I just put in all the fighter shit this morning. If you want to play it, do post any bugs you find, but I don't think there should be many (it's a pretty simple thing to port over). This replaces the base wrath of cronos wad; you can still use the patch wads to play Doom maps or whatever, you'll just have your slightly-modified WoC weapons replaced with the heXercise ones.

Here's a changelog:
http://pastebin.com/stzd0umi
Here's the wad:
https://www.mediafire.com/?ld1tqlzpgg3wk33

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 8 15:28:24 2014 No.1325189 File: 261 KB, 1024x768, 1389212890064.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1325120 You know what? This is pretty freaking awesome. Good job anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 8 15:32:55 2014 No.1325194 >>1325120 >>1325189 Does anyone ever bother using alchemy in WoC?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 8 15:37:55 2014 No.1325212 >>1325194 Nope not really

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 8 16:55:26 2014 No.1325431 Anyone ever wanted a Thief style map for Heretic? Yes? Well then. http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?file=levels/heretic/m-o/njhthief.zip

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 8 17:32:32 2014 No.1325543 >>1324748 >Heretic & Hexen is available for download in the OP. holy shit im retarded

Anonymous Wed Jan 8 18:18:51 2014 No.1325647

>>1325212
>>1325194
I do, actually. All of the ones that aren't yellow, green, or red are quite good. I killed Zedek in Chuxen by spamming blue flasks. Obviously it wasn't the quickest way, but considering I really needed to conserve mana it was pretty useful. Also, the black flask archers are fucking invincible from what I can tell and having just one dude to share aggro is insanely useful. And the white one turns you ethereal. Hell, they're all useful.

Anonymous Wed Jan 8 22:13:17 2014 No.1326096

>>1325120
Me again. The mod's done (that is to say, all the heXercise weapons are in the game).

New changelog:
http://pastebin.com/sBSaKXum

Download link's the same, but here it is again:
https://www.mediafire.com/?ld1tqlzpgg3wk33

Problems: None that I have found. Please post something here if you find any. Any insights on balance also welcome.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 8 22:17:17 2014 No.1326118 >>1326096 >Any insights on balance also welcome Not sure that really matters, as Hexercise purposefully makes you op as fuck. Good work, though, I'll definitely playthrough Hexen with at some point.

Anonymous Wed Jan 8 22:29:47 2014 No.1326156

>>1326118
Yeah, but I hoped to balance that out because WoC makes the game substantially harder (hello, random fucking fire ettin and purple afrit spawns). Also I was referring more towards classes in relation towards one another, although I intentionally made it so that Mages are better later to some extent and Fighters (and to a degree, Clerics) are better earlier.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 8 23:03:21 2014 No.1326252 >>1323518 >>1323610 >>1323696 nvm, fixed it ;) I just used the WAD in the OP's pastebin. I'm not sure why it worked, but I'm not going to dwell on it either. I got sound! I thank you guys for your help, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 9 09:42:41 2014 No.1327035 >>1326096 Awww no more bloodlust

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 9 09:44:11 2014 No.1327037 >>1327035 Bloodlust is really trivial compared to Blood Rush and Deflection; especially when you get higher con, getting 4 hp for a strong punch doesn't really help you out that much.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 9 09:45:11 2014 No.1327038 >>1326156 Fire Ettins are the worst, I had to block one off with Green Flechettes on Guardian of Fire because I kept getting owned.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 9 09:50:11 2014 No.1327042 >>1327037 I mainly liked it for smashing crowds of low tier monsters, and spamming the extra skill. Can do without I guess.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 9 10:08:41 2014 No.1327057 I'm having sound problems. I dont have any sound effects or ambient sounds, just the back ground midi. This problem only occurs on my machine running windows XP, my computer running vista does just fine. any one know how I can fix this?

Anonymous Thu Jan 9 10:16:45 2014 No.1327068

>>1323610
>While this seems like a difficult thing to figure out, you should provide more information on your setup.

What do further information do you guys need? I can provide.

>>1326252

I am using the same WAD for both machines.

>>1323696
>Have you tried restarting the sound through the zdoom audio options?

I am not sure how.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 9 10:21:16 2014 No.1327074 >>1327068 >>Have you tried restarting the sound through the zdoom audio options? >I am not sure how. Figured it out. Tried it and it fails. I tried changing the midi device and I lose all sound when I do.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 9 10:24:16 2014 No.1327076 >>1326252 You wily motherfucker, you nearly made me choke on my own rage.

Anonymous Thu Jan 9 12:28:19 2014 No.1327201

>>1326096
Okay, I already noticed some shit I missed, so I updated it. It's almost all mage-related.
http://pastebin.com/YzNL7vXD is the new permenant pastebin link for changelogs. Download link's still the same as always (I put it in the changelog also)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 9 22:18:54 2014 No.1328375 >>1327074 Hmm, do you get this issue when using Gzdoom as well?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 9 22:29:54 2014 No.1328396 >>1327201 I have a ZDoom thread now. Check http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45036&p=740729#p740729 in the future so I stop shitting up this space.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 9 23:23:24 2014 No.1328501 >>1328396 >so I stop shitting up this space We need as much discussion as possible here so please feel free to let us know about the changes.

Anonymous Fri Jan 10 00:26:24 2014 No.1328623

>>1328501
It's just bugfixes and silly things I forgot. If you want me to discuss, well, it was more hassle than it should have been to make that mod because Thetis is a mediocre coder. He fucking put all his DECORATE definitions in complete random order, and there's an incredible shitheap of deprecated code in there; I was confused more than once trying to figure out something that no longer actually did anything. He comments almost none of his code, also. Luckily, it's DECORATE and ACS, so it's hard to make that unreadable.
There's a video in that thread too, although I managed to completely botch the processing somehow, so there's stutters. Definitely just going to use FRAPS next time.
I also ended up finishing some stuff that seemingly wasn't fully implemented in HeXercise; interestingly, Lloyd sets the REFLECTION flag when you use the shield/gauntlet/Wand secondary, but not INVULNERABLE/NODAMAGE, so you still get hurt even when the projectile reflects off you. Also, the Axe & Hammer pieces weren't put in there completely properly.
One thing that set my Autism Alarm (tm) completely blaring was that Thetis, instead of using his own heal script that he wrote to heal the damage you steal with the Serpent Staff, just gives the player Crystal Vials. I mean, seriously, what the fuck? You have a heal script that does exactly what you need for this, yet you resort to this garbage. All I had to do was make another script (so that the damage value can be carried over to the heal value) and reference his heal script.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 10 04:37:09 2014 No.1328950 >>1328375 >Hmm, do you get this issue when using Gzdoom as well? Havent tried yet, will post results.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 10 13:41:27 2014 No.1329506 File: 1.12 MB, 1024x768, This situation makes no sense.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I wonder what kind of proteges D'Sparil and Korax would have. I think a game featuring the Demoness and the other two would be cool.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 10 23:23:16 2014 No.1330630 File: 2.25 MB, 336x251, Hexen Mage.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 11 00:14:46 2014 No.1330723 >>1330630 I keep hearing that the frost shards are actually good in deathmatch, but I've never played Hexen DM so I wouldn't know. Guess it makes sense, magic super shotgun and all that.

Anonymous Sat Jan 11 02:27:25 2014 No.1330938
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>>1330723
The reason Frost Shards are really good in DM but shit in single player is because the health difference between the player(s) and the enemies. That and the spread makes for easy hits, unlike the Arc of Death. The player health is so low that even Frost Shards become deadly.

You can always play against bots.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 11 02:31:25 2014 No.1330947 >>1330938 Yeah, I figured that it was due to the health differential. Ettins have 180 HP by themselves, for fuck's sake. Which makes me wonder how many spiked gauntlet punches it takes to kill a player. Time to go kill bots in Zandronum.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 11 02:32:55 2014 No.1330951 >>1330947 2-3. 3-4 can gib. Timon's axe can kill in 1-2 and gib with 2-3.

Anonymous Sat Jan 11 03:25:42 2014 No.1331049

>>1330938
>>1330951
Holy shit, this is genuine fun. That tension when you're low on health but have two of three pieces of your fourth weapon. And then get four kills with it. Why don't more people play this instead of Megafag Deathmatch or All Out Wanking? Was surprised at how well Winnowing Hall turned out to be for a DM map, too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 11 03:30:12 2014 No.1331056 File: 1.94 MB, 384x288, Hexen Fighter2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1331049 Winnowing Hall, Seven Portals, Bright Crucible, Dark Crucible, Sacred Grove, and Desolate Garden make for great MP maps. Probably forgetting a few.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 11 03:57:14 2014 No.1331080 Why is Zdaemon always empty?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 11 08:56:58 2014 No.1331259 >>1328950 Tested it and it works... wierd.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 11 15:04:02 2014 No.1331773 >>1330938 >cleric gets pushed away Heh, this made me chuckle quite a bit and I've no idea why...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 11 17:13:27 2014 No.1331993 File: 2.61 MB, 288x216, Hexen Mage5.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1331773

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 11 17:32:56 2014 No.1332027 Heretic has one bitchin' soundtrack

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 11 17:40:57 2014 No.1332046 >>1331993 I could just see a caption on that gif goin': "Please. Leave. The Thread. NOW."

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 11 18:33:01 2014 No.1332180 >>1332046 Oh god someone needs to do this

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 11 19:23:04 2014 No.1332254 >>1332180 "OH MY GOD ju- just go. Fucking... leave, please, Just go."

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 12 02:02:26 2014 No.1332917 File: 2.92 MB, 384x288, Hexen Mage4.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 12 14:51:23 2014 No.1333780 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGTjzxDeZr8 Whaddya guys think of this Seven Portals rendition I did?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 12 14:55:23 2014 No.1333786 File: 129 KB, 500x259, coolguys.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1332917 rekt

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 12 16:39:45 2014 No.1333968 >>1331080 because Zandronum is better

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 12 21:13:10 2014 No.1334587 File: 2.11 MB, 384x288, Hexen Fighter6.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm bound to get him this time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 12 21:14:38 2014 No.1334591 File: 2.11 MB, 384x288, Hexen Fighter6.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1333786 I'm bound to get him this time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 13 17:56:53 2014 No.1336325 File: 2.99 MB, 384x288, Hexen Fighter7.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 13 18:30:18 2014 No.1336391 >>1334591 The gif makes it look like you were getting owned countless times in a row. That said, I hate facing fighters in multiplayer, it's such a shitfest.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 14 15:32:59 2014 No.1338019 File: 2.59 MB, 336x251, Hexen Mage1.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1336391 I like playing against one bot of each class but yeah, the fighter is the most annoying.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 15 06:36:02 2014 No.1339436 File: 200 KB, 600x600, 1389785802243.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 15 06:56:02 2014 No.1339446 >>1339436 Looks neat. Is that the same artist from before?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 15 18:06:53 2014 No.1340280 >>1339446 From before? Anyway, the artist is Soap.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 15 19:00:56 2014 No.1340398 >>1340280 Ya, the artist as mentioned in >>1289963 Not the same one though so nvm

Anonymous Wed Jan 15 22:53:25 2014 No.1340885

I don't understand why Hexen II is called Hexen II. I mean you have the Serpent Riders and the first story is called Heretic. The second is Hexen. Now by the time of Heretic II, the Serpent Riders are gone, and now we're focusing on the hero of Heretic embarking on a new adventure so that makes sense. But in Hexen II, you're not on Cronos, nor do any of the heroes from Hexen have a role in the story.

So why did they call it Hexen II? Why not some other name with an H that sounds neat, like Heresy or something?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 15 22:58:25 2014 No.1340902 >>1340885 Never thought of that before. Huh. No clue.

Anonymous Wed Jan 15 23:17:53 2014 No.1340929

>>1340885
The third game in the series, the final, was originally called Hecatomb. Before Heretic/Hexen 2 were made, Activision bought Raven and wanted to capitalize on the Heretic/Hexen names and made Raven make those two instead, making Hexen 2 the last in the trilogy for whatever reason.

http://www.johnromero.com/wiki/index.php/Hecatomb

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 15 23:20:53 2014 No.1340935 >>1340929 Activision a shit.

Anonymous Wed Jan 15 23:23:53 2014 No.1340940

>>1340885
>Now by the time of Heretic II, the Serpent Riders are gone

Actually Heretic 2 takes place before Hexen. The events of that game take place right after the Heretic expansion, Shadow of the Serpent Riders, where Corvus was cursed by D'Sparil to wander the broken worlds that the Serpent Riders had taken over prior to Heretic. At the end of that he enters a portal which leads him back to Silverspring in Parthoris (Corvus' home and ep.1 in Heretic), starting the story of Heretic 2.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 15 23:27:23 2014 No.1340948 >>1282230 The very first N64 game I ever bought, and it's actually the one i play the most often. It's sitting in my 64 right now, actually. Definitely a top 5 game for me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 16 00:46:12 2014 No.1341092 >>1340929 Well as happy as I was with the Heretic II and Hexen II we got, damn this sounds like it would've been a treat. Also >rouge

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 16 04:34:24 2014 No.1341376 File: 110 KB, 628x1229, Hexen2 Weapon Tier.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I was bored.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 16 19:40:13 2014 No.1342490 >>1341376 that just reminded me Why nobody has made HeXen/Heretic mod that adds the weapons,classes and enemies from HeXen II/Heretic II?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 17 00:29:59 2014 No.1343092 >>1342490 That would take time away from their precious Doom. I'd kill to play as the Hexen classes in 2 and vice versa.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 17 19:00:06 2014 No.1344865 >>1343092 well,scaning the enemies and weapons doesnt seem to be a hard job

Anonymous Fri Jan 17 20:28:25 2014 No.1345093

>>1285113
>her
The heroes are all obviously male, sadly.

And yeah, cleric fletchies are hilariously broken. You can even stunlock the final boss and kill him in like five seconds (though this means you have to commit suicide, because the programmers didn't expect you to kill him that fast and the door won't unlock)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 17 20:29:25 2014 No.1345097 >>1345093 >sadly Why is it sad? Why does it even matter?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 17 20:36:25 2014 No.1345109 File: 57 KB, 620x917, 70502.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1345093 >>1345097 >Hexen: Edge of Chaos >Mage is replaced by a large breasted woman with cleavage and midriff For what purpose?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 17 23:53:55 2014 No.1345571 ah, I remember when we played Hexen all night at /v/, some of the puzzles were insanely complicated, we started with like 15 players and at the end it was just 3 people now those faggots never want to play anything

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 01:06:30 2014 No.1345773 >>1345571 I don't think I'm ever around to play on the server that exists. I would though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 14:33:13 2014 No.1346836 >>1345109 I always wondered why they even did that...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 16:47:49 2014 No.1347148 Is Heretic better with or without freelook?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 18:06:53 2014 No.1347335 >>1347148 If you have free look, disable auto-aim entirely, that seems to be the best option really. It's up to you which works better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 18:10:23 2014 No.1347341 OP here, I'm really surprised this thread lasted a month. I feel all warm inside now...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 18:14:53 2014 No.1347348 >>1347341 Eat a dog biscuit

Anonymous Sat Jan 18 18:17:23 2014 No.1347356

>>1347335
Well yeah, I just wonder what it was "designed" to be played. Like, Doom is designed to be played without vertical aiming (though in some Doom 2 maps it's not very obvious), but I remember reading Heretic supported vertical aiming - I assume it was binded to keyboard keys, though?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 18:22:23 2014 No.1347367 >>1347356 Heretic had vertical aiming bound to page up and down. No jumping though, that came with Hexen.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 18:34:10 2014 No.1347393 >>1347367 Cool. Guess I'll go with mouselook then.

Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco Sat Jan 18 19:24:10 2014 No.1347487

>>1347356
>>1347367
It's whatever you prefer. Some people argue that a fixed-forward FOV is fundamental to Doom's design, and that freelook is tantamount to cheating, but don't let anyone tell you there's a "correct" way to have fun.

>>	Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco Sat Jan 18 19:35:40 2014 No.1347510 >>1345571 I'd like to try Hexen deathmatch. Anyone wanna throw up a server?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 18 19:45:10 2014 No.1347532 >>1347510 108.61.83.66:15112

Anonymous Sun Jan 19 00:18:41 2014 No.1348091

After playing the HeXen mod called WoC+HeXercise i found 3 flaws
1)The potion variety,why would you need different sizes of the quartz flasks and crystal vials? its kinda pointless,same applies for the flechettes,with any class you can use the Repulsion+green flechette,it could be cool for each class to have 2 different flechettes
2)Alchemy is pointless
3)This mod makes HeXen to be easy unless you play it in UV[Fire Ettins can make ruin your moment though,these fuckers are tough specially if they spawn in a narrow area like in Guardian of Ice trap]

But outside of these 3 flaws,the mod is amazing but its a shame there are few people that are interested in mapping for HeXen

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 05:53:15 2014 No.1348557 >>1348091 For what it's worth, I'm still on working on my huge castle wad. But ya, Hexen definitely should get more attention, it's medeival fantasy heaven.

Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco Sun Jan 19 20:18:26 2014 No.1350090

Man the people who made Hexen are brilliant with all the little details they put in.

Light spoilers ahead:

>getting the fire key from Guardian of Ice
>the key is resting atop a pillar of ice
>the pillar lowers and water rises in a little well, like the ice is melting

That's pretty cool in and of itself, but even better is if you exit the map and come back:

>the water texture is replaced with ice, as if the ice has re-frozen

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 20:25:56 2014 No.1350097 >>1350090 I love that too, but I don't actually recall them doing anything as clever later on. Shame.

>>	Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco Sun Jan 19 21:01:16 2014 No.1350187 By the way, in Hexen, are any of the weapon fragments (for Quietus, etc.) permanently missable?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 21:26:33 2014 No.1350237 Holy shit, I'm playing Hexen for the first time in my life, and it can be pretty fucking confusing. I think I just got to the fourth hub, and I found out there's only four weapons. That kind of sucks...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 21:31:03 2014 No.1350248 >>1350237 Four weapons per class, so 12 in total. Adds a lot of replay value.

Anonymous Sun Jan 19 22:31:33 2014 No.1350398

>>1350187
I believe there's two of each piece. One at the very end of the first hub, another in the last level of the second hub, and another towards the start of the third hub (this one is probably easy to miss). You also find a complete set in the secret level of hub 4. However you're not forced to pick any of them up, so you can miss them if you're so inclined. This is unlike Heretic II where most weapon/spells are placed in a way that you have to get them.

>>1350237
It sucks more that they don't have the Tome of Power. But at least all the weapons are worth using. Except the mace. That thing is a piece of garbage.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 22:32:33 2014 No.1350401 File: 7 KB, 400x400, 1390120725324.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1350398 >Frost Shards >Worth using

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 22:40:03 2014 No.1350414 >>1350401 They're good in Deathmatch and they're a fun weapon to use against weaker foes. >>1331993

Anonymous Sun Jan 19 22:40:34 2014 No.1350413

>>1350401
They are and do as much damage as Timon's Axe in melee. Sure they require the most effort to get the most out of them but it's pretty damn good in tight room and hallways, unlike the Arc of Death which dissipates the second it touches a wall.

That and ice spells are kickass.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 19 22:45:03 2014 No.1350423 >>1350414 I always loved killing afrits and the Death Wyvern with Frost Shards. It's fun seeing them freeze mid air and shatter when they hit the ground.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 09:41:38 2014 No.1351286 >>1350401 They can be good for stunning hoardes of enemies. Not to mention, they are godly in Hexercise...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 09:46:38 2014 No.1351294 >>1351286 >Not to mention, they are godly in Hexercise... Everything is godly in that, even the mace, which that's exactly what the creator wanted: for you to be overpowered as fuck. >tl;dr: Hexen weapon mod. You're OP as feck. Have fun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 13:30:06 2014 No.1351719 >>1351294 Ya, true

Anonymous Mon Jan 20 13:52:26 2014 No.1351776

i love making the ettins and efrits kick the shit out of each other on level one, and the first hub I had this one ettin beat the shit out of a serpent and I let him follow me around cause he was a cool tough guy and we were friends and it was really cool.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 14:16:24 2014 No.1351826 File: 42 KB, 386x530, chuckley.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1351776 >I had this one ettin beat the shit out of a serpent and I let him follow me around cause he was a cool tough guy and we were friends and it was really cool.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 18:07:48 2014 No.1352226 >>1351826 I took him on an adventure but then he got all cranky because I didn't let him nap and started taking swings at me so I left him up in a tower.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 18:24:54 2014 No.1352254 File: 56 KB, 640x480, ettin.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does anyone think that Ettins look a little... goofy?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 18:36:54 2014 No.1352278 >>1352254 THATS MY FRIEND YOURE TALKING ABOUT

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 18:41:55 2014 No.1352283 >>1352226 That's not a very nice thing to do anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 20 20:03:11 2014 No.1352403 >>1352283 mother fucker shouldn't have smacked me, I was being the best to him too I was so proud he beat the shit out of that chaos serpent

Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco Tue Jan 21 03:41:25 2014 No.1353261

>been playing Hexen the last few days
>finally make it to the first boss, Death Wyvern
>awww yeah, hyped for the boss fight
>make a quick run around the room, clearing out all the enemies so that the wyvern is alone
>save game
>where the fuck is the boss
>look down
>see the wyvern somehow died when I wasn't looking

Uuuugh that's so lame! From now on I'm making backup saves periodically, so I can undo it if something stupid like that happens.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 22 07:46:43 2014 No.1355534 >>1353261 How though? What weapon were you using?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 22 08:34:45 2014 No.1355581 https://www.figurerealm.com/viewcustomfigures.php?op=3&id=680 Uhhh

Anonymous Wed Jan 22 11:09:46 2014 No.1355705
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In the WoC Hexercise patch for Heretic, the sounds seems to be missing for the fighter, mage and the cleric.

Also the inventory/hud doesn't show up regardless of the screen size.

Anonymous Wed Jan 22 19:26:46 2014 No.1356458

>>1355705
speaking of WoC HeXercise,i found a major glitch with the hammer of retribution
if you go out of green mana and you do the secondary attack,you wont move or do anything and enemies cannot kill you
also,how do you make the enemy HP bar to appear?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 23 00:15:58 2014 No.1356982 Does anyone have a clean rip of the Bloodscourge? I can't find one anywhere

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 23 06:10:00 2014 No.1357370 >>1356458 Not sure, but the HP bar definitely shows up Hexen but not on DOOM or Heretic.

Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco Thu Jan 23 22:27:56 2014 No.1358803

>>1355534
I really have no idea. I was using the Hammer of Retribution to clear out the serpents in the room, and my only guess is the wyvern somehow got into some infighting with a few serpents. But that seems really unlikely, due to how the room is set up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 23 22:48:32 2014 No.1358839 >>1357370 well im using the mod on hexen[im on necropolis] and the enemy HP bar never appeared but whatever,i dont mind that because i know when an enemy is going to die

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 24 01:18:19 2014 No.1359119 File: 116 KB, 861x1200, 238768.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1358803 That's really weird, especially considering the death wyvern would wreck any enemy's shit without breaking a sweat.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 24 09:19:45 2014 No.1359565 What happened to that Hexen mod for Doom 3?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 24 17:54:50 2014 No.1360318 >>1359565 As far as I know it's still being worked on. I stopped following it when they released a demo years ago. Thought it was very mediocre.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 25 18:17:07 2014 No.1362514 >>1360318 Ya the Ettins looked crap and the level design didn't fit Hexen at all, it was designed closely towards Heretic 2 more than anything....

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 25 23:34:24 2014 No.1363140 File: 138 KB, 1047x762, Korax_by_highdarktemplar.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is what Korax should have been

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 25 23:48:26 2014 No.1363167 Do you guys play with mouselook on or off?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 25 23:50:26 2014 No.1363173 >>1363167 With. KB only is uncomfortable as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 25 23:54:26 2014 No.1363186 Which hub in Hexen was the most frustrating? I'm gonna go with the Shadow Wood

>>	Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco Sun Jan 26 00:07:26 2014 No.1363218 >>1363186 I only had to consult a walkthrough once, and it was in the Castle of Grief, so I guess I'm gonna go with that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 26 00:14:13 2014 No.1363235 Does anyone else get a weird fisheye sort of effect while aiming up and down in zDoom?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 26 00:18:43 2014 No.1363247 >>1363173 Mouselook means whether you can look up/down with the mouse. This feature doesn't exist except in source ports, in the original games moving the mouse up/down made you move forward/backward unless you're using novert.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 26 00:23:13 2014 No.1363252 >>1363247 I'm aware.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 26 00:33:13 2014 No.1363271 >>1363252 I thought you weren't as you compared keyboard-only to mouselook.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 26 00:39:14 2014 No.1363279 >>1363271 Because I assume no one in their right mind would use the mouse to move forward/backward, and thus play the game with just the KB.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 26 00:42:43 2014 No.1363289 >>1363279 I use the mouse but I disable up and down aiming. zDoom uses this stupid fisheye effect while vertically aiming and I can't disable it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 26 00:47:43 2014 No.1363304 >>1363279 As I said there's novert if you're running the DOS version, and Chocolate Doom/Heretic/Hexen also have this built-in.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 26 17:22:55 2014 No.1364879 >>1363140 What's up with that boner?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 27 03:04:41 2014 No.1366080 >>1363167 Play with it on, platforming with just the kb is shit tier.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 27 10:12:30 2014 No.1366395 I love that Korax RPG mod for hexen

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 27 12:55:53 2014 No.1366548 Jesus fuck, this room where you teleport in surrounded by a dozen wendigos. How the fuck are you supposed to not die?

Anonymous Mon Jan 27 14:01:57 2014 No.1366639
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First time playing Heretic. Having fun with it. Never really played FPS games in this era aside from Doom now and then. Are these arrows for a weapon I dont have yet or something? Ive just beaten the first two levels

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 27 14:02:57 2014 No.1366641 File: 458 KB, 1680x1050, 1390849348689.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1366639 Meant to attach this image

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 27 14:10:27 2014 No.1366658 File: 508 KB, 1680x1050, 1390849806547.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1366641 Pretty sure I found it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 27 15:47:46 2014 No.1366863 So what's the best possible graphical settings for Heretic?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 27 16:22:20 2014 No.1366927 >>1366658 Yes, the Ethereal Crossbow aka the shotgun of the game, it's going to be your most used weapon until you get the Hellstaff,

Anonymous Mon Jan 27 16:35:50 2014 No.1366948
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>>1363186
Heresiarch's Seminary had the most "Now which button have I missed this time?" moments for me.
Also, Slaughtaurs.

I thought that Necropolis was totally cool, just a shame it was so small

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 28 13:59:13 2014 No.1368654 Hahaha. Pushed a monster into a teleporter and it died when I went through. Is that what a telefrag is?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 28 18:22:12 2014 No.1369285 >>1368654 Ya man, you got it. Next step, trap an enemy in a circle of Cleric's flechettes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 23:24:38 2014 No.1371958 >>1363186 Castle of Grief. Gibbet to be specific.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 23:42:08 2014 No.1371981 >>1363186 >Vanilla Shadow Wood,it took me a fucking long time that the caves and wasteland werent the only 2 sub-levels of the hub >With mods Necropolis,fuck Phantom/poison Wraiths

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 29 23:57:38 2014 No.1372012 >>1371981 >missing out on Darkmere for so long Poor bastard.

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 00:30:24 2014 No.1372070

>>1372012
i dont want to sound like DSP but,how the hell i was supposed to know that walking to the underground river in the Shadow Wood opened a gate to get to a tower that has the switch to open darkmere?
At least i didnt checked the internet for a guide,and the game after Shadow Wood became great,shame that it lacks a bigger monster variety

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 00:41:54 2014 No.1372087 >>1372070 The enemy variety is there but the problem is they underutilized some enemies, namely the wendigo and reivers. Also Hexen's bosses don't make for good mini versions of themselves unlike most fps' of the time.

>>	Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco Thu Jan 30 00:57:24 2014 No.1372108 >>1366639 >missing the crossbow in the first level How? Don't they put it like, right in the middle of a hallway?

Anonymous Thu Jan 30 01:28:56 2014 No.1372179

>>1372087
to be honest,there are sections where you get enough monsters and its alright,the problem i have is that it doesnt have a slightly bigger variety,like having Bishops riding Chaos Serpents as sub-boss tier enemies
i sound a bit etilist but it would be cool for HeXen.wads to make new enemies along with new maps and/or mix some new enemies in the Vanilla[Elemental Ettins/Afrits on the 7 portals,Shadow Wood has some low tier enemies from Heretic,Heresiarch's Seminary has Bishops riding Chaos serpents and some Bishops have different attacks,Maulotaurs in Castle of Grief,3Spooky4u Necropolis[the skeletons from Heretic+the wraiths+revenants without missiles, instead they punch harder than Doom]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 02:15:26 2014 No.1372287 >>1371958 >that fucking axe room WHY WONT YOU TRIGGER JESUS FUCK

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 02:22:26 2014 No.1372296 >>1372287 in WoC,i had to noclip

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 03:42:16 2014 No.1372393 >>1372287 The room with the axe key? It opens after entering a specific area. Or if you mean the room the axe key unlocks, yeah there's a stupid bug with it if you kill the enemies too quickly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 14:59:18 2014 No.1373057 >>1372393 according to doom wikia,you have to leave 3 Serpents on the lower area to trigger the gate

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 19:51:38 2014 No.1373535 >>1363140 that Skeleton Korax would be great as a boss right in Necropolis,right before the real Korax

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 30 22:54:30 2014 No.1373812 >>1373057 Yeah that. Also PLEASE use doomwiki.org in future, wikia is run by terrible people.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 15:01:54 2014 No.1375005 >>1372087 I kinda agree, it needed more mini boss monsters, or at least something resilient like the Barons in DOOM for example. That said, they would have brought back a variation of Maulotaurs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 15:44:00 2014 No.1375078 File: 539 KB, 1680x1050, 1391201078933.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Heretic is pretty at times (Looks better with the moving walls)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 16:40:01 2014 No.1375183 >>1375078 I've always wondered why are there so many so big bathrooms in D'Sparil's world...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 16:43:01 2014 No.1375186 File: 406 KB, 1680x1050, 1391204633824.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1375183 Gotta keep clean

Anonymous Fri Jan 31 17:18:33 2014 No.1375252
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>>1375183
I like to think that D'Sparil has an affinity for water, whereas the Serpent Riders in general have an affinity for lightning (D'Sparil's main attack, Korax calls down lightning when he actives traps, Eidolon shoots homing lightning balls and made the Tempest's Staff for the Demoness).

D'Sparil for water, Eidolon for fire, and Korax for I have no idea, since his attacks consist of mimicking his minions'.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 19:16:23 2014 No.1375539 >>1373812 i use doomwiki,different thing i called it doom wikia for reasons

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 19:41:25 2014 No.1375589 >>1375183 Nice to know I'm not the only one who thought that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 21:40:59 2014 No.1375805 >tfw you pick up celery sticks to shoot out of a magic cross bow

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 21:48:59 2014 No.1375826 File: 190 KB, 468x353, 34668.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1375805 >not putting peanut butter and raisins on them for extra power

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 21:56:29 2014 No.1375839 >>1375826 Thats what happens when you use the extra damage book item

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 21:57:29 2014 No.1375846 >>1282230 I have heretic and hexen on my psp. They are quite enjoyable.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 22:06:32 2014 No.1375858 Necromancer on WoC=100% fun when you reach level 20 >summon shadow,nitrogolem,black revenant and death knight >dry enemies' HP with Necro gaunlets >kill everyone with either raven staff or lich staff HOWEVER,he is weak as shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 22:38:34 2014 No.1375909 >>1375826 It's a Triple threat

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 31 22:47:34 2014 No.1375931 >>1375826 >Mr. T is 5' 10 >He's taller than Johnny Bravo by at least three inches I didn't know Bravo was a manlet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 1 02:57:17 2014 No.1376330 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdFHA8km18E

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 2 04:25:04 2014 No.1378939 >>1376330 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq7C2E1yA7s

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 3 01:55:24 2014 No.1381329 >>1378939 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO1hMFWa0uE

>>	noko Tue Dec 20 10:08:59 2016 No.1381329,1 Hello? is still alive this? can anyone make WoC+heXercise+ketchup = Brutal Hexen?

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