crazy retro game facts

[Anonymous No.1281471]

General mind blown/stuff you never noticed in retro video games thread

[Anonymous No.1281473]

[Anonymous No.1281476]

>>1281471
...N-no they're not?
>>1281473
Oh you guys

[Anonymous No.1281480]

>>1281471
>>1281473
lol wut

>he went bananas
Oh hoho, that's a good laugh.

Obviously, these couldn't have been actually made by DYKG. Where'd these come from? Are there moar?

[Anonymous No.1281483]

[Anonymous No.1281487]

Now that's crazy.

[Anonymous No.1281501]

[Anonymous No.1281509]

[Anonymous No.1281512]

>>1281501
The hat thing is kid of true (they wouldn't have to animate hair) and I think the mustache was added just to add facial contrast.

[Anonymous No.1281515]

[Anonymous No.1281516]

>>1281509
I had a laugh mate

[Anonymous No.1281521]

I don't know why these make me laugh so much

[Anonymous No.1281525]

>>1281471

Great thread, but next time you should probably just post the Mario one and wait a while.

[Anonymous No.1281529]

not really retro but interesting nonetheless

[Anonymous No.1281536]

>>1281529
>>1281515

[Anonymous No.1281538]

>>1281509

Game designers should actually do this in real life.

I find that funnier than taking away Batman's ability to glide or making you fight a giant chicken.

[Anonymous No.1281539]

[Anonymous No.1281545]

[Anonymous No.1281548]

At least five characters from Seasons of Sakura had designs ripped off directly from manga or anime. This three on pic related are obviously taken from Magic Knight Rayearth.

[Anonymous No.1281549]

And that's all the pertinent info I have on videogames. Sorry, but I am of no more use.

[Anonymous No.1281554]

>>1281549
sides status: obliterated

[Anonymous No.1281556]

>>1281471
That's actually not true. At least not in Super Mario Bros 3. It's true in Super Mario World, because it was one of the first SNES titles. The developers didn't know how to use the full potential of the system like they did with the NES, and because they couldn't make enough room in the data for additional sprites, they just swapped the colors and used the same sprite for bushes and clouds. It's also the reason why the Goombas in Super Mario World were replaced with the round "Kuribon" variety. There simply weren't enough sprites left for a "flattened goomba" animation.

[Anonymous No.1281560]

>>1281556
>the joke

>your head

[Anonymous No.1281562]

>>1281556

[Anonymous No.1281563]

>>1281560
>>1281562
>the joke
>your heads

[Anonymous No.1281568]

>>1281539
why do I laugh at this shit
saved

[Anonymous No.1281569]

>>1281563

[Anonymous No.1281565]

>>1281538
If you failed to enter the correct codes in Zak Mckracken you get thrown into pirate jail.

[Anonymous No.1281573]

>>1281569
I don't get it. Are you pretending to be retarded or implying that I am? Or do you just like that picture?

[Anonymous No.1281574]

This is why Special is superior. As you can see the bushes have a different pattern than the clouds.

[Anonymous No.1281576]

>>1281574
oh golly what is even happening with that color palette

[Anonymous No.1281580]

>>1281576
Hudson thought they didn't need more than 4 colors even though the platforms were capable of 8.
Also note that the game doesn't scroll and instead goes from screen to screen.

[Anonymous No.1281584]

>>1281580
>Also note that the game doesn't scroll and instead goes from screen to screen.
...what

[Anonymous No.1281585]

>>1281584
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0HQOKmAPRA

[Anonymous No.1281590]

>>1281476
See a speech therapist, as you're now typing out your stutters.

[Anonymous No.1281594]

>The Tower of Babel (Hebrew: מגדל בבל Migdal Bavel Arabic: برج بابل Borj Baabel) forms the focus of a story told in the Book of Genesis of the Bible.[1] According to the story, a united humanity of the generations following the Great Flood, speaking a single language and migrating from the east, came to the land of Shinar (Hebrew: שנער), where they resolved to build a city with a tower "whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth."

>The Sky (known as Sky Land in the International NES revision, and occasionally Sky World in other media) is the fifth world in Super Mario Bros. 3. The Sky has nine levels, three Hammer Bros., two Fortresses, three Toad Houses, three Spade Panels, a Mushroom King's palace, and a special Tower level. There are two parts to the world, "The Ground" and The Sky, connected by the Tower level.

tl:dr Mario climbed the tower of babel in SMB3

[Anonymous No.1281604]

>>1281585
oh golly gee
where can I get a copy

[Anonymous No.1281630]

>>1281584

Only high end japanese computers could do scrolling back in the 80's.

[Anonymous No.1281641]

>>1281549
also, these are great!

[Anonymous No.1281678]

>>1281630
The PC-88 can do scrolling, particularly the 8 Mhz versions.
Shitty 70s consoles like the Atari could do rudimentary scrolling. Completely skipping scrolling is more design choice or ineptitude of the programmer.

[Anonymous No.1281693]

>>1281585

I like how the game skips to the next screen when you're two blocks from the edge, making it impossible to get to the coins and ?-blocks and shit beyond that point.

[Anonymous No.1281708]

[Anonymous No.1282519]

>>1281556
>>1281560 >>1281562
>>1281563
>>1281569
>>1281573

> this thing
> no this thing
> that was the joke
> NO. THIS IS THE JOKE.
> I was pretending to be stupid!
> BUT IT WAS ME ALL ALONG
> BUT WHO WAS PHONE?
> WHAT YOU SAY

Shit, we've gone too deep. Abort! ABORT

[Anonymous No.1282530]

>>1281678
There's a misconception about the whole thing. Consoles such as the NES, Sega Genesis, and Super Nintendo are specifically designed to do scrolling graphics. They have hardware built in to handle it. But any platform CAN scroll. Its just that because it takes much more effort for the home computers to do it, many old PC games had very choppy scrolling.

[Anonymous No.1282550]

>>1282530
That's why it was considered very important when John Carmack figured out how to do it on PCs, right?

[Anonymous No.1282556]

>>1282550
Yes, but even Commander Keen didn't have truly smooth scrolling. First PC game I've aware of with smooth 60fps/70fps (selectable from command line) scrolling was Jazz Jackrabbit.

[Anonymous No.1282564]

So i guess SMB:Special is the original event that caused Nintendo's post traumatic stress disorder when it comes to 3rd party games?

[Anonymous No.1282576]

>>1281539
I can't stop laughing

[Anonymous No.1282578]

>>1282556 Thunder Force SR has pixel-based multidirectional scrolling at a pretty decent framerate and that was in 1985

[Anonymous No.1282582]

>>1282578
>pretty decent framerate
Not good enough. Framerate has to match the refresh rate for smooth scrolling.

[Anonymous No.1282586]

>>1281545

This one makes me lose it every time. It's just that build up.

[Anonymous No.1282601]

>>1281548
"man, these cut-ins from PoDD are so sweet, ZUN actually can draw!"

[Anonymous No.1282608]

>>1282601
Yeah, it should be obvious by the hands that looks like, well, hands, that Zun's up to something there.

[Starkade No.1282643]

[Anonymous No.1282664]

Articyou
Zapr a
Molfaget

[Anonymous No.1282671]

+1, op

plus fucking one

[Anonymous No.1282685]

>>1281548
At least five? You mean fucking everybody.

[Anonymous No.1282686]

>>1282664
you're*

[Anonymous No.1282691]

>>1281585
>>1281630
>>1281693
>that feel when
>that feel when
>console games are dead
>console, console
>console games are dead
>console games are dead
>PC is, the master race
>PC, PC, PC is the master race
>the, the, master race

[Anonymous No.1282703]

>>1281641
i swear to god, I saw Fox's head move, and now every time I try to rewatch it it's not happening anymore.

[Smile No.1282705]

if you stay on sonic 3's data select screen for 47 minutes and some change, the music will alter slightly

[Anonymous No.1282718]

>>1282705
you'll hear a faint recording of michael jackson saying "no, that's not right"

[Anonymous No.1282764]

>>1282703
It does.

[Anonymous No.1282767]

>>1281630
nah its just nobody was smart enough to know how to code proper scrolling until john carmack came along. It took a lot of horsepower for games to scroll because they all redrew the screen everytime you moved carmack actually discovered you only had to redraw the parts of the screen that actually changed so scrolling took a lot less horsepower after that point. I'm sure someone with modern coding knowledge could make an old japanese computer scroll no problems.

[Anonymous No.1282774]

>>1282601
Marisa's mouth always looked really weird in that one, I'm glad I wasn't the only one to notice that.

[Anonymous No.1282780]

>>1282767
>carmack actually discovered you only had to redraw the parts of the screen that actually changed so scrolling took a lot less horsepower after that point
How did somebody who was in, what, college around the time Commander Keen came out, figure this out before anyone else?

And didn't the Doom engine do some kind of crazy stuff where it would render walls based on if their bottom corners were in view, which is why you can't look up and down? It's crazy to think about.

[Anonymous No.1282782]

>>1281501
>punch the chink shit out of the developers
Every time

[Anonymous No.1282792]

>>1282780
Ughhh he wasnt in college when Commander Keen was out. The scrolling background was made by Carmack to emulate Mario (and i believe they successfully recreated 1-1), they sent the demo to Nintendo who kinda blew them off a bit but said nice job. Then they used that engine to make Commander Keen.

and how did he do it? through the power of diet coke and pizza

[Anonymous No.1282794]

>>1282792
Yeah, I remember that part well enough. They were going to make a port of SMB3 to the PC, right?

Kind of makes you wonder what if Nintendo accepted the demo and Carmack started working for them.

[Anonymous No.1282796]

>>1282794
yeah that was their intention at first, get funding from Nintendo since working at softdisk blew chunks apparently

[Anonymous No.1283193]

>>1282780
It's actually a multifaceted problem.

First, computers from the 70s/80s barely had enough VRAM to draw one screen of data, much less load and display "scrollable" data. 2600s actually had trouble with even this much! Read "Racing the Beam" by Montfort for example. 3D drawing was basically unrealistic because the systems were too slow/weak to handle it.

Second, computer science was still exceedingly primitive by today's standards. The demo and commercial scenes were doing some work with 3D, but it was still a long way from what you'd see in Wolf3D or Doom late in the decade. See "Rescue on Fractalus" for a fairly complex flight sim from 1983, for example. Using fractals to draw land? Only drawing things that are actually on the screen? Using a short render distance to reduce the # of things to draw? These are the improvements that ALLOWED Carmack to continue improving the design.

[Anonymous No.1283210]

>>1281538
In pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen, a message "By the way, buy this game or die" would display if the game was detected to be pirated.

[Anonymous No.1283225]

>>1282691
please be real

link?

[Anonymous No.1283227]

>>1283210
no it doesnt

[Anonymous No.1283228]

>>1281641
Actual Videogame Trivia:

The reason Star Fox had dolls for all its art in SNES days was because it was supposed to be a homage to Thunderbirds and other Jerry Anderson shows.

[Anonymous No.1283231]

>>1283227
He even said "would"

[Anonymous No.1283232]

>>1283225
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSyIzGfTEBA
Have fun looking at all his other videos

[Anonymous No.1283248]

>>1281538
A lot of Amiga games had little hidden comments like "you tiny dicked faggot hacker I will find you and break your legs".

[Anonymous No.1283297]

>>1281512
Indeed. Mario's trademark features (hat, stache, and overalls) were all done simply so you could see and identify different parts of his face and body.

[Anonymous No.1283312]

>>1281529

Fat man is actually the name of the nuke bomb they dropped on Hiroshima. Nagasaki got 'Little Boy'

So yeah I could imagine Japanese not caring for a weapon name like that. Hell just any nuclear apoc game period would b touchy AF.

[Anonymous No.1283315]

>>1281556
Well, the part about the goomba I didn't know, but does make sense. I always wondered why you didn't stop SMW goombas, or gazoombas as they're now known.

[Anonymous No.1283326]

>>1283312
did you seriously come in this thread and respond to one of those seriously

it's not even the OP

i just

what

[Anonymous No.1283337]

>>1282767
>nah its just nobody was smart enough to know how to code proper scrolling until john carmack came along.
Correction, nobody knew how to do proper scrolling on shitty IBM PCs until John Carmack coded a method of getting smooth scrolling on IBM PCs

[Anonymous No.1283338]

>>1281630
>What is the C64, Amiga, Atari ST, Amstrad CPC...

[Anonymous No.1283342]

>>1283338
Not/ m/ cuz their not Japanese.

[Anonymous No.1283348]

>>1283342
Doesn't the MSX scroll?

[Anonymous No.1283370]

>>1283337
Is there anything John Carmack can't do? I mean, other than feel human emotions.

[Anonymous No.1283373]

>>1283348
The MSX can do hardware-based vertical scrolling, IIRC, because it was designed with productivity software in mind and would require it for viewing word processing documents/etc.

It can only do hardware scrolling 8 pixels (one tile) at a time, giving it a very jerky look. I am sure that there are examples smooth scrolling done via software, but this would take up a lot of processing power better devoted to all the other important stuff happening during a game.

[Anonymous No.1283531]

>>1281539
hahahahaahahahahahaha.

this joke is so weirdly structured that it's actually genius.

[Anonymous No.1283534]

>>1283531
Back around 1905-1915 when Jazz was still a very new thing and called Jass, hoodlums would cover up the J so it just said "ass" so they changed it to Jazz. I assume that's what it's trying to play reference to.

[tim the tool man taylor No.1283567]

>>1281708
chronos is actually greek for time, not latin

[Anonymous No.1283578]

>>1283534
It's a reference to "Puck Man" being changed to "Pack Man" to prevent people changing the P to an F.

[Anonymous No.1283580]

>>1282792
>Implying no pepsi

[Anonymous No.1283643]

>>1283312
dumbass of the year candidate right here

[Anonymous No.1283663]

>>1283643

Especially since Fallout New Vegas has the Fat Man Little Boy kit (makes the weapon lighter, I think), which was changed into the Nuka Launcher Little Boy kit in Japan. So clearly, the problem wasn't with the nukes that hit Japan.

[Anonymous No.1283684]

>>1283370
He can't make me his bitch.

[Anonymous No.1283701]

>>1283684

Because you're already Romero's bitch?

[Anonymous No.1283842]

>>1283370
Carmack feels emotions. It's just that interacting with mortals when your IQ is 15000 tends to only produce a mild amusement at their antics, much like when we look at animals doing stupid shit.

[Anonymous No.1283860]

>>1281580
Fun fact, John Carmack recoded the game to make it run just like the NES version and offered the code to Nintendo, who refused it.

He then used that code to create Commander Keen.

[Anonymous No.1284735]

>bickering about two megafaggots
great thread ruined

[Anonymous No.1284738]

>>1283312
>this post
I don't even

[Anonymous No.1284947]

>>1281471
half of these aren't even real

[Anonymous No.1284954]

>>1283312
You got it backwards. Fuck you for making me post on this thread.

[Anonymous No.1284958]

The arcade version of Donkey Kong was actually developed by the hardware company "Ikegami Tsushinki". It is believed that Ikegami developed many more games for other companies, including Popeye for Nintendo.

Nintendo decided to hire a company called "Iwasaki Engineering" who eventually became Intelligent Systems to reverse engineer Donkey Kong to make Donkey Kong Jr. Ikegami caught wind and took Nintendo to court, seeing as Nintendo illegally altered another company's code, despite "buying" the game. Because of this, the arcade version of Donkey Kong is rarely redistributed, instead using the NES version.

http://tcrf.net/Donkey_Kong_%28Arcade%29

http://www.mariowiki.com/Ikegami_Tsushinki

[Anonymous No.1284981]

>>1284958
Sort of /vr/.

Speaking of Intelligent Systems, Ashley's theme sounds an awful lot like Dr. Robotnik's theme from Adventures of Sonic. Just a bit slower.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWB8J6YxVXQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtxN6G3Tvcg

[Anonymous No.1284985]

>>1281585
Hudson what have you done...

[Anonymous No.1284986]

>>1284947
and neither are the other half

[Anonymous No.1284993]

>>1284986
10/10

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.1284994]

>>1281548
>>1281548
>>1281548
>>1281548
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFV9HK455Rw

:)

[Anonymous No.1284995]

>>1283842
I know that feel bro

[Anonymous No.1285002]

>>1284981
>Speaking of Intelligent Systems
I had no idea IS made Wario Ware: Touched. I'm disappointed, I thought they could do no wrong during their AW:DS/TTYD days.

[Anonymous No.1285018]

>>1284981
>English dub

ugh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QY_NOqIbe4

>>1285002
What's wrong with it?

[Anonymous No.1285020]

>>1285018

Forgot pic.
Why you hating on Ashley-tan?

[Anonymous No.1285032]

>>1284981
>>1285018

Sorry for using the English version.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Xxnru5i33H

Scary, ain't it? Apparently I'm the first one to make this connection, so if anyone is to credit, you shall call me...

Mr. Ikegami.

[Anonymous No.1285052]

>>1285018
get out

[Anonymous No.1285073]

>>1285032

[Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco No.1285083]

>>1284981
I always thought The Healer Stalks (Doom) sounded really similar to Get Them Before They Get You (Wolfenstein), though that's not too remarkable, because same composer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAXUaaSEp7w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44lhqrsUTlo

[Anonymous No.1285090]

>>1285083
The beginning of Victory Road (RBY) sounds an awful lot like Metallica's Damage Inc. This is a stretch, but Lavender Town's theme reversed sounds like the intro to Metallica's Blackened.

[Anonymous No.1285109]

>>1284993
Whoah, I literally lived across the street from that place.

[Anonymous No.1286520]

These kind of remind me of the kind of humour on Digitizer

[Anonymous No.1286531]

>>1281471
>Did you know gaming?
>The Impresario in Final Fantasy 3 is a reference to Nintendo's mascot Mario. Both their names end in Mario and he even jumps up and down during the opera. (Mario is famous for jumping).

[Anonymous No.1286678]

>>1285109
I know

[Anonymous No.1286694]

>>1282519
IT WAS ME AUSTIN!!! IT WAS ME ALL ALONG!!!

[Anonymous No.1286719]

>>1282564
No, because Special is actually good

[Anonymous No.1286871]

You know what's better than straight-up bullshit facts about games? Ones that are true but sound like bullshit anyways.

Megaman 3: Using a second controller, it's possible to make a zombie Megaman that can take infinite damage.

[Anonymous No.1287008]

i'll delete this if it actually goes through

[Anonymous No.1287316]

>>1286871
The method pf getting the hadouken in MMX sounds like ultra bullshit too

[Anonymous No.1287325]

>>1286871

Or the Mew glitch in Pokemon Red and Blue. It sounds identical to the hundreds of bullshit "Pokegod" cheats everyone believed as a kid, but it works.

[Anonymous No.1287330]

>>1286871
unlocking the Reptile fight in the original MK sounded like pure bullshit

[Anonymous No.1287336]

>>1284981
I NEVER NOTICED

[Anonymous No.1287338]

>>1281548
It was years ago so I don't really remember all too well. But my endgame was "Umi".

[Anonymous No.1287716]

>>1284981
Dear god, I keep forgetting North American Ashley sounds like Violet from The Incredibles. And not in a good way.

[Anonymous No.1287754]

>>1287336
>>1287716

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Xxnru5i33H

I should've used the Japanese one as the Orchestra Hits would go well with "AS-SU-RI".

[Anonymous No.1287768]

>>1281473
Requesting the "Beat the chink shit out of them" one

[Anonymous No.1287853]

>>1287768
>>1281501

[Anonymous No.1289631]

>>1281641
What the fuck bro

[Anonymous No.1289663]

>>1284993
I wish someone had graffiti'd God as a dominatrix under that instead of this lazy shit.

Yes, dominatrix.

[Anonymous No.1289691]

>>1287330
Then they started including/encouraging actual bullshit rumors themselves.

>There's totally a purple ninja called Rain in MK3, look, we put him in the intro screen

[Anonymous No.1289704]

>>1281641
>scan QR code

[Anonymous No.1289731]

>>1281585

>mfw this was wario's first game

[Anonymous No.1289762]

>>1282686
you r a faget

[Anonymous No.1291648]

bump for intrest

[Anonymous No.1291668]

>>1289704
>don't have winamp and can't be bothered to install it

[Anonymous No.1291742]

>>1281594
You just blew my fucking mind.

[Anonymous No.1291753]

>>1281539
>5 days later and I'm still laughing at this

[Anonymous No.1292058]

>>1281548
The sex scene wit Fuu is good?

[Anonymous No.1293545]

>>1285083
I've noticed these two sounded similar a few days ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUnwRFMo6D0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkNKCY7ge3s

[Anonymous No.1293616]

>>1285090
A lot of Pokemon's music actually comes from Gamefreak's earlier game Pulseman. I can't remember the specific tracks but the music is so iconic it's hard not to hear it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1H9_GA9-Ng

I want to list all the great things I've notice din Mother's soundtracks but I'm too tired.

[Anonymous No.1293621]

>>1293616

The track you posted was mixed into the Gym Leader theme for RGBY and the rival theme for DPPt. I think that's the only major music connection honestly, the rest are pure coincidence.

[Anonymous No.1293627]

>>1289691
>Ermac being an amalgam of "error macro" from the diagnostics screen in MK1

[Anonymous No.1294061]

>>1293616
The Game Corner music in RBY is at least in part lifted from their earlier game Mendel Palace.

[Anonymous No.1294130]

>>1281545
oh video game lord
I kek'd

[Anonymous No.1295196]

>>1284958

So THAT'S why we'll never see the arcade version of Donkey Kong on the VC.

That's gay

[Anonymous No.1295207]

>>1281473
It's funny because Al Sharpton is reactionary as fuck.

[Anonymous No.1295351]

>>1284981
Robotnik's theme is itself based on "In the Halls of the Mountain King", a public domain piece of music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQxsyA6s90Y

[Anonymous No.1295817]

Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine is notorious for plaigarism. It's "inspired" Zelda interface and even the title theme is blatant and lazy enough to rip the title theme from Donkey Kong Country 2's own title theme after about half a minute of playing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q73bkS4c5ZM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-92kiKv1r4

Also if anyone has that Zelda plagiarism that Zelda's Lullaby, I believe, ripped off of, I would appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.1296073]

>>1282664
MOtres
ZAptos
ARTicuno

[Anonymous No.1296261]

>>1281471
that was in the first super mario bros. for the NES you fucktard.

[Anonymous No.1296265]

>>1296261
It's a troll image.

[Anonymous No.1296274]

>>1296261

This is right up there with that guy who responded seriously to that fallout image earlier.

[Anonymous No.1296275]

[Anonymous No.1296330]

>>1283232
jesus dead people fucking christ