/vr/ - Retro Games

https://archive.org/details/NEC_PC_8801_TOSEC_2012_04_23

A collection of games.

>>1277270
...wasn't it like 7gb or something?
Not that I'm complaining

>>1277274
That's the PC-88, the 8 bit brother of the PC-98.

>all the shit they pulled off with color limitations
still blows my mind

>>1277281
I know right. Just look at this image >>1277270 in b/w. It still reads pretty well and OH MY GOD look at that grass! Those japs were crazy.

Would anyone here be interested in buying the actual hardware of PC-88, 98, FMTOWNS and other such?

I live in Tokyo and there are several shops in Akihabara specializing in this shit, as well as Yahoo Auctions. I could, in theory, buy hardware and/or software and ship it to people elsewhere.

Kinda want to gauge interest before I start seriously looking into this, though.

>>1277298
I don't have the money but I've always wanted one of the PC-98 laptops. I imagine there probably aren't any decent working batteries for them anymore though.

>>1277520
nice.

>>1277354

Actually, old laptops used conventional accumulators instead of the piece of shit today laptops use as a battery. I think an old PC-9801 can have it's battery replaced easily.

PC-88 emulation isn't as documented as PC-98 http://illusioncity.net/nec-pc-88-series-emulators-tools-lists/ is the main site I know.
If a game gives you errors, looks weird or simply won't load, try a different mode. Most games use V2 but some older ones require V1.
The d88 format can contain multiple disk images so be careful which one you put in each drive.
Switch between 4 and 8 MHz if you feel a game is running too fast or too slow.
The emulators don't have a function to create blank disk images, use d88 manager for that.
Most games use the numeric keypad, space,enter and escape as input. Z, X and C may also get used.
Some support a mouse.

>>1277298

I'm kinda interested in the idea of owning a PC98 and collecting games, but it'd kinda hinge on just how much the actual units cost, not to mention shipping costs to bring it here to Bongland, since I doubt these things are light. If you can get a ballpark estimate, we can probably all shout "Hell no!".

Trying to play Misty Blue in M88, but it tells me to "Please Set 8M Mode" and I have no idea what it means. Changed some stuff in the configurations but to no avail. Can anyone please help me?

>>1277725
Do other games or other emulators work? Check this for a bunch of pre-configured emulators for most Japanese computers.
http://fullmotionvideo.free.fr/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1161

I tried the game myself and it seems to work fine for me.

>>1277298
I would LOVE to have a trustworthy drop shipper in Japan, especially one that was doing it just to be a bro. I'd be happy to send comfort items back from the USA, Western style soap, deodorant, toothpaste, toothbrushes etc.

>>1277826
Huh, works fine when I used the M88 emulator from that pack. I must've used an old version or something... Anyway, thanks for the help!

>>1277858
Welp, I'm an idiot. "Please Set 8M Mode" means I have to change the CPU to 8 MHz.

Big fat cat tats

>>1277869
They actually had a Turbo switch for that purpose.

For people looking for Paint tools (to imitate the look of the games)- Multipaint was designed for the PC-98 series. マルチペイント is the Katakana you'll be looking for

Any reasonable way of emulating PC-98 on Linux? Neither xnp2 nor wined windows emulators perform good enough for the games to be playable.

One weird thing about M88 is that in order to get a proper x3 scaling for my 1920x1200 screen I need to set it to 1280x800 x2 scaling. If I set it to 1.5x or 1x scaling it adds black borders and only scales to 2.5x in full screen.

Punch Ball Mario Bros, a variant of Mario Bros where each player gets a ball to throw at enemies.
For some reason throwing and jumping is both done with the space bar so you can only throw when standing still and jump while moving.

There was also Mario Bros Special, which is completely different from Mario Bros, and Super Mario Bros Special which is a bizarre port of Super Mario Bros.

>>1278187
>Super Mario Bros Special
Awful. No one should play it.

>>1277298
How much do they cost? I might be interested as a novelty thing.

>>1277298
Most everyone who is seriously interested in this hobby can already get these things. If you are serious you should start a middle-man business that covers much more than just old japanese hardware. Then you go advertise here, reddit, tokugawa and any other sites related to the other shit you ship (like figurines, old games or something). Can be pretty lucrative.

Or you could just be a legend and ship cheaply for 4chan :3.

>>1277520
>MS-09 Dom
>Beam Saber
>Not a Heat Saber
Is it bad that the UC fag in me is bothered by this?

>>1278790
Most likely stole it from the GM and used it before its internal battery ran out

>>1278790
>>MS-09 Dom
No, that's a Tropen.

>>1278812
It's still a Dom variant, but yes, you are correct.

>>1278798
What GMs have more than one beam saber?

>>1278914
I don't know, but that GM is a RGM-79N GM Custom, which only has one beam saber like most GM's

>>1277976
You could do the same thing with any program by doing the following
> Go under colors
> Either choose a custom pallet of 512 colors or limit colors to 512
> Select hard brush (pencil), hard edge, no opacity.
> Set the brush shape to square.
> do the same with the eraser tool
> Get pixeling.

You're welcome!

>the games
Are there really even any worth a shit? The only good games I'm aware of reside on the MSX and X68000.

>>1277520
OH shit dude did you find info on some of the Mecha/gundam games on 98 I've been trying to get them for ages. They look sorta like SRW.

>>1279147

You have the Ys games, Valis that is better than on the MSX, Psychic War: cosmic soldier 2, Zeliard, Sorcerian, Silpheed with the glorious FM synth that sound better than on PC with an adlib card, Flame Zapper Kotsujin. Also, if a game is on both MSX and PC-98, unless the MSX version is made for MSX 2, the PC-98 will look better.

>>1279147
More than on the MSX.

>>1279168
Sorry, mang. Got that image from mobygames. I just fucking love the graphics of the Gundam games.

But the game (Mobile Suit Gundam: The Return of Zion) is listed on pc98.org.

>You can request any game that is listed via e-mail

Try sending him an e-mail if you haven't already.

>>1278962
512 colours for PC-88 (only 8 onscreen). You can get a .png with the palette if you search for 9-bit RGB on wikipedia. Don't forget the tall pixels (640x200px resolution stretched to 640x400px).

4096 for PC-98 (16 onscreen). Search for 12-bit RGB.

>>1279168
https://archive.org/details/pc98-maker-betsu-tsumeawase
Get the Fu package since Familysoft made the Gundam titles.

>>1277958
I hate to sound like a hipster but I wish hardware still looked like this. I dislike the new cold "sleek" minimalistic designs.

>>1279594
Those things look sleek and minimalistic to me.
You can still get desktop models. What has gotten completely out of fashion is the beige box look.

A.I.R. appears to be entirely in English.
You purchase weapons, travel to planets, explore and fight monsters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onr2bdk2i2I

>>1279594
>>1279626
nice.

I find myself using Hoot more than I use Anex. PC-98 has some good games, but mainly just like to boot up the amazing music while playing other games. One of these days I'll stop being lazy and actually record the stuff, but windows isn't making that easy with their faggotry in hiding the direct output recording options.

>>1279860

Yep, dem sexy cases.

>>1279626
thats one sexy beast

>>1279870
Anex is terrible outdated and should only be used as a fallback.
Use Neko Project II fmgen instead.

>>1278962
But the specialized tools wouldn't be available to you, making it very hard to make scenes like this.

>>1279893
>making it very hard to make scenes like this
Maybe if you're using MS Paint.

Not that anon, but you certainly don't need old software to make this kind of pixel art.

>>1279908

You don't need them, but it's easier to learn with them. Throwing masks don't really improve your skills as a pixel artist.

>>1279915
>easier to learn with them
People can use whatever program they feel like, but I honestly can not see how it's any easier than learning without them. Other than understanding the working conditions of the old pros.

>Throwing masks don't really improve your skills as a pixel artist

Neither does using old software.

>>1279938
Sure it does. Working within limitations helps teach technique and adaptability.

Think of it this way. You can learn pretty much every language on Earth, even made-up languages, read almost every book in existence, study tactics and the arts of war, physically train yourself and become an adept specimen, and cook amazing dishes, ALL WITHOUT LEAVING YOUR HOUSE, yet you don't. The overwhelming freedom of options.

People strive against limitations, and often do fucking nothing when limitations are removed.

>>1279915
I still think using Deluxe paint AND Photoshop remain the thing to do.

>>1280047
We can have quick result like that. (yeah, it still need more work).

Is Multi Paint in the archive torrent? If so under what developer/publisher?

>>1280050
Name of char?

Some early adventures apparently used an English parser and partially English descriptions.
This Alice one requires Katakana for crucial parts however.

Policenauts is one sexy game, too bad the emulation scene is pretty much dead, we will never play the game as it was originally intended.

>>1280768
How so? If this thread is anything to go by and the fact that forums such as Tokugawa are still going the scene hasn't died yet.

>>1280336
[Mink] Diver's
http://exhentai.org/g/543626/44c1eea430/

>>1281309
I think he meant translation. They did the Playstation version instead of the PC98 original.
Another problem is that CD images for the PC98 aren't that commonly circulated.

>>1281373

No, I meant the lip animation that doesnt work on the PC-98 version if you are using an emulator. In order to show properly the lip animation, Policenauts require a specific driver that is not compatible with the emulators, of course in the real hardware it happens the same unless you use that specific driver.

>>1280768
please stop

>>1281373

Actually, the main problem with the PC-98 version of Policenauts is that it doesnt have subtitles. Most of the important dialogue is spoken like in the PC-Engine CD and Sega CD version of Snatcher, that probably needs some advanced hacking skills... and I wonder if it would be possible without breaking something else in the way. You can play the game with subtitles if you want, but that mode is text only, there are no voices and no lip animations, also you need to complete the game to get that option.

>>1281467
But NP2 forks are still in development, they're just a bit elusive.

For someone looking for something to play, I highly suggest the first story from Marginal Storys. The .hdi is in the nyaatorrent pack as well for those who don't have it.

>>1281765
What is it?

640x400 2 color graphics aren't used by many games but it's perfect for Macintosh ports.

>>1281765
Turns out the second story was pretty good too.

>>1283308

oh god
daily reminder that cities suck ass

>>1283308
Beautiful.

Why japan can't into cards games ?

>>1283401
They've got Mahjong, Hanafuda and Karuta.
Any specific type of card game you're looking for? There are all sorts of strip card games on the NEC computers, both invented and real.

>>1283401
They do, just not the neckbeard ones.

>>1283432
how is solitaire neckbeard? isn't japan more into neckbeard cards like yugioh?

>>1283435
Is this Solitaire enough for you?

>>1283440

What deck of you gee oh is that?

>>1283308
what's this from?

Speaking of card games, I don't understand how this one works. I try to do the same as the computer does but he wins while I don't.
It's apparently about collecting cards from the same color as marked in the middle. The face cards have special functions like replacing your cards or changing the mark. You can declare Riichi so that you can only discard the new draws.

chiptunefag here.
Are there any trackers/sequencers/anything for the 98/88?

>>1278051
I'm using the xnp2 package that's in the AUR on my netbook and it runs good enough for me.
I'm sure if I used it on my stronger machine it'd be very playable.

>>1283789
There's Hoot, which is a sound hardware emulator. You'll need another program to record the music, though.

Is there a list/collection anywhere of translated games?
Only resource I know of is vndb.

>>1283803

http://www.romhacking.net/?page=translations&genre=&platform=3&status=&languageid=12&perpage=20&title=&author=&transsearch=Go

>>1283801
Can you compose music in Hoot? It looks like it's just a player.

>>1283789
I've been looking around but I haven't found anything yet since I don't know Japanese.

One thing you can do though, is tracking three mono channels of 4-op FM synthesis in one tracker (e.g. DefleMask) and three channels of YM2149F SSG in another (e.g. Vortex Tracker II). Combine everything in another program and you've faked the YM2203 chip.

YM2608 is the same, but add three more channels of FM (all six channels in stereo) and one channel of mono ADPCM samples. This chip also used six channels of percussion sounds, which you can download from http://snesmusic.org/hoot/drum_samples.zip.. Now you can fake the YM2608 chip all night long!

But still... I would love to have a real OPN/OPNA tracker...

>>1283803
Some games are already in English, others have little to no text. Several games got ported to another platform and got that version translated

There should be a database listing all games with all their versions, respective languages and additional information. Something like vndb but for all games.
But that's a huge undertaking. vndb is far from complete itself.

>>1283852
Its just a player, I thought you were asking for the music itself. If you're looking to compose, doesn't the PC-98 just use a standard consumer Yamaha chip?

>>1283859
Ah, ok. Thanks anyway. Just to be clear, I'm >>1283852 and I'm not the anon that originally asked.

>>1283789
http://fmp.jp/wp/program/fmp7

>>1284132
Finally a fucking link to this. I've been looking for this for ages. Not the anon that originally asked for it, but thank you greatly.

>>1284132
>>1284457
this seems to be an executable file; how would you run this in the PC98 environment, assuming the linked file is even the genuine PC98 article? very excited by the idea of PC98 trackan

>>1284940
I think it's an MML editor/compiler. MML is a very common chiptune writing method in Japan alongsitde the Tracker format. Pic related is some MML from Famicompo Mini 10 that happened a few months ago.

>>1284951
i see. so you'd script out your tunes in the MML format and then have FMP7 compile it, which does so as a PC98 would? do you run FMP7 from within a PC98 emulator or a windows machine (I would just check myself but i'm stuck on a singleboot osx machine right now.)

this frontend, which is linked on the aforementioned fmp website, looks pretty sweet (sorry for the nico, couldn't find it elsewhere:) http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm20829268

cheers

>>1284982
You'd write themusic out in MML in pretty much any text editor, compile it with FMP7 and play it back using the player posted earlier or with the player available on the FMP website (FMPMD2000), I don't know if there are any hardware players for the PC-9801.

I don't know how to write in MML but the concept between platforms is mostly the same: Type it out, compile for system, play back resultant file.

>>1284982
I THINK (so don't quote me) that when TFM Music Maker was available, before Shiru removed the download link, you could make PC98 music on that. I don't remember wich platforms were available to you, but I know for sure it was an FM tracker.
I'll just stick o the Famicom, Gameboy and AY/YM computers.

This is one of my favorites: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15206039

Pardon my ignorance, but what are the PC-98 and PC-88?

>>1285039
NEC's line of home computers in the 80s and 90s.

>>1285039

2 computer lines made by NEC in the early 80's (81 and 82, something like that). The PC-88 family is based on a Z-80 clone made by NEC, while the PC-98 is based on a custom 80186 model that is pin-compatible with the 8088. The PC-98 family isn't really an IBM compatible even if it is able to run some of it's softwares, because it has some hardware that no other PC clones have, like a custom video chip that isn't VGA, EGA nor CGA, stuff like this.

>>1277920
that look awesome.

>>1277920
This game sounds like a modem.

>>1285562
Yeah I thought it was to do with the soundchip but it sounds like shit no matter what you use

>>1285704
Sound Board 1 only came out in the same year as the game (1985), therefore it uses the beeper. Most other games of that time didn't even try to have music.

>>1286294

>>1285562
>>1285704
>copyright 1985

That's the problem right there; expecting a PC game from 1985 to have bearable music.

Is there a /vr/-approved list of recommended PC-98 games?

>>1287143
Night Slave
Ys
Legend of Heroes
Legend of the Galactic Heroes
Power Dolls
Yuno

>>1277281
>>all the shit they pulled off with color limitations
>still blows my mind

It's called dithering, bro. It's the most basic tech trick in the book for older games. Just take any image and put it into .gif form in mspaint and voila! Instant dithering.

That being said, Cosmic Star Heroine is supposed to have dithering, which I'm pretty stoked about.

>>1287229
>Just take any image and put it into .gif form in mspaint and voila! Instant dithering
lal, no.

>>1287230

Um, yes. This is dithering produced by mspaint in windows 7.

>>1287239
The guy is trying to say they didn't use dithering back then. Which is true.

>>1287314
>pc-98
>didn't use dithering
Have you been looking at these threads, like, at all?

>>1287092
The C64 had a great sound chip in 82. Amiga came out in 85. Even stuff like the Apple II had optional sound cards but the NEC or IBM PCs were business machines at that stage and only beginning to get multimedia capabilities.

Can anyone help with PC-6001 emulation? I'm trying to play the original Japanese Earth Bound but the options are confusing me. Simply loading the image and resetting doesn't work.

>>1287636
>original Japanese Earth Bound
Wait, what? In any case the only PC-6001 game I've tried playing is the Nausicaa one.

>>1287229
>>1287230
>>1287239

The PC-98 uses pattern dithering for the most part, and the image I posted uses diffused dithering.

http://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/5779/what-is-the-difference-between-halftoning-and-dithering

>>1287636
>Earth Bound
It probably it ain't the same Earthbound you're thinking of.

>>1287636
Ha ha, are you perchance expecting Earthbound, i.e. Mother 2, from this?

>>1287636
Try with 7.

>>1287636
>PC-6001 Earthbound

http://www.giantbomb.com/earthbound/3030-33777/

It's unrelated.

>>1283308
>>1283341
where are these from?

>>1279506
>512 colours for PC-88 (only 8 onscreen)
Most games used the same 8 colors (black, white, red, green, blue, yellow, cyan, magenta) even when they required V2 mode.

>>1288176

>>1283341 is made by Mark Ferrari. He has more stuff like that one on his website. I don't know about the other one.

>>1287602
That's the colour pallet available to them due to memory limitations. Do you even tokugawa corp m8.

>>1279626

That's beautiful

>>1282259

> No Austria or Switzerland
> Denmark and Germany part of the same country

>>1287701
Diffuse dithering is used for digitized photos and similar.

>>1289238
Uhhhh... yeah and so they used dithering to accomplish additional shades despite their limited "pallet". That's why dithering exists. Are you trying to suggest something here I'm not understanding?

>>1292601
I'm imagining that anon means the system didn't do any real-time dithering of images that were originally rendered and stored in a higher bit-depth. That's the only logical interpretation I can see.

I wonder how hard it would be to find the physical floppy-disk release of Yu-No for the original PC-98 still on sale somewhere.

I'm guessing pretty hard, since it's nowhere on ebay.

>>1292770
Did the floppy version cost more than the CD one? I can only find the price of 9,800 yen for the PC-98 version and 7,800 for hte Saturn one.
15 floppies obviously have more material cost than a single CD-ROM.

Amazon has one offer
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/offer-listing/B0080LFO9I/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used

>>1292770
Shouldn't be too hard.
If you're in Akiba or Dendentown I mean.

>>1292804

PC games are usually more expensive than console releases in Japan. Also, that is the release price, I remember seeing the Saturn version for 2000 yen or less.

>>1292902
Why is that, don't they have licensing cost?
Are people simply willing to pay more?

>>1293526

First yes, people pay more for PC games, but they also have lower prints than console releases, so they make a profit selling the game at those prices. Even nowadays, some japanese games are 100 bucks.

Have a Christmas retro pc video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Zys15ZbAg

>>1279626
I wanna have dirty, dirty sex with that computer.

>>1293965
Oh! It's THAT guy's room? His collection give me a boner, I'd love to get a hand on every single computer he store here (not his, but at least another machine of the same model).

>>1295383
That light on the ceiling is beautiful

>>1293574
That's actually pretty well done.

for anyone interested in making this kind of art:
grafx2 is the way to go
shown here is 1x2 pixel mode

>>1295695

Thanks for the find anon. I'll check some info on this piece of software.

Some video on pixel art made on Multi Paint

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1725260
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2066154

>>1295695
didn't know about that one

pretty cool.

this is my poxel ort. dis is mr black man

>>1295796
incredible

>>1295727
exactly what I wanted to see.
Thanks. And incredible, they seem to work only with lines.

>>1295603
The average shovelware has come a loooooooong way from a PC88 porn mahjhong to a 3D platformer on the Wii.

what are some good sites, tumblrs etc to follow this kind of art?

>>1297868
here.

>>1297868
exhentai

This seems traced.

How do you feel about the graphics in Steins;Gate 8bit?
I think it doesn't look like any PC-88 game.

How do you feel about the graphics in Steins;Gate 8bit?
I think it doesn't look like any PC-88 game.

>>1300779

The chara design is far from the one you would be waiting for in a PC-8801 game to be fair.

>>1300132
>finally, she's asleep, now the book is mine!

>>1295727

I wish I understood what was happening here. Is this guy literally doing this all by hand? Or is he using a certain tool to thin out the scanned line art?

Man I love this kind of Old computer related stuff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzEnenrQLIQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5lBF4Tn95k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoNlNsjAnpo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruQbvIAKHds

Also, Sorcerian OST is just beautiful (no fuck given if someone say it aged like milk):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gm6D4iFzo8

>>1301074

The first video is all done by hand... in the second video the guy just used a scanner or a stock picture and worked around it by hand.

G... guys, is pic related decent when it comes to dithering? The eyes and hair appart, I only used 3 colors.

>>1301280

Difficult to tell since it's not the clean image. PC monitors tend to be much better than CRT TVs so filtering it makes it look a lot different to how it would have done. Also, don't save pixel art as jpg, jpg is a lossy format that while make it look like mud. Use gif or png.

>>1301323
My impression was that it was a photograph of a monitor.

The vertical stripe pattern was definitely used for dithering but I can't see if the middle shading uses a diamond pattern or separate color.

>>1301323

>>1301353 is right, it's a photo of my 'miga monitor. and as the photo are saved directly in Jpeg by the camera, it doesn't matter if I save it as a gif or not.

>>1301353

I used a pattern like pic related. As I said in my post, I only used 3 colors for the face, hair and eyes excepted: beige, white and orange.

If I took a photo of the screen instead of transferring the picture on my PC, it's because I want to have critics on how you're supposed to see the pic.

>>1301379

The pic was too small (forgot to upscale it), here's the one I intended to post.

>>1301379
>beige, white and orange.
And black evidently
>how you're supposed to see the pic.
On your monitor instead of my own?

>>1301404

>On your monitor instead of my own?

On a 15KHz monitor I meant, like the ones the Amiga and MSX uses.(you'll ask me what I'm doing on this thread. Well, the discussion heavily focus on how to make a good use dithering, so even if I'm using another platform than the PC-98 and PC-88 lines of computers, I'm only slightly off topic)
I post photos instead of screencaps to see how it render when you look at the original computer's monitor.

Here's a sharper shot if you want. So, in your opinion is the dithering decent or it's only place is in the trash?

>>1301437

It looks great. The problem is you're introducing the problems associated with using a camera to photograph a screen, which reduces the fidelity and means it doesn't look like what it'd look like in person. It'd also be nice to post the original for people who have monitors like that themselves and pixel-art fags who get off on the specific patterns.

>>1301494

Okay, I see. Well, the only thing that I can do is find a way to transfer it on my PC and convert it in PNG or GIF formats. This should take some times.
Thanks for appreciating though.

On the topic of old japanese computers, can you guys recommend me some X68000 and FM Towns games that aren't simply arcade ports?

>>1301676
Towns has a lot of cool ports of foreign games, often with an English option, for instance Ultima or the early Lucas adventures.

>>1301676

Metal Orange Ex on x68000.

>>1301676

Murder Club DX (x68k and FM-Towns) has a bilingual option, some little text here and there is still in japanese, but AFAIK the game is playable.

>>1301494
>>1301505

Here is the pic I was taking photos of.

>>1301676

Check phalanx and Genocide 1 + 2 on x68000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh1TcJyohpI

And it's a Sony!

>>1301798

Hate to say, but it looks a little worse. Remember that dithering also has an effect on perceived texture, so be very sparing with it on smooth surfaces likes skin, and use the simpler patterns if you do. Your girl looks a little like an orange, dimpled all over.
For example, look at this picture. The bushes, ground, clouds and crumpled fabric of the suits are all heavily dithered, but the skin is smooth blocks of colour, with occasional small transitions of half one colour, half the other in a simple pattern on the, ahem, larger expanses of skin. You have transitions that go in three stages and take up a large space, try to be more subtle. Your darkest colour is also a tad orange, it clashes slightly.

The other problem is that the hair is smooth compared to the skin, though obviously that's because you haven't worked on it yet, but it does need to be "busier" than the skin, though that's more in terms of actual representation of texture rather than dithering, so you need to leave a little headroom to work with.

But it's a good start, just needs a little more subtlety.

>>1302989

Okay I see. Thanks for the constructive critics, I'll try to improve my work.

>>1302918
Now that's looking hot

>>1277263
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=320480

>>1303068
>no seeds
Why do you torture us like this, anon?

>>1303196

You can find a more complete set on Tokugawa Forums.

>>1303068
That looks like a combination of several sets with the size difference explained by it being unpacked.

>>1303196
Just get the one off the Internet Archive

>>1303196
It might still have seeds, or high % peers. I have the torrent myself, but I can't seed it until a few days.

>>1279594
Is that some Y's Book I there?

>>1304892

Y's II.

>>1304895
I loveed that Game on my PC-Engine... K' Turbo Duo...

>>1304898
Shane that Y's IV never made it to the US.
I do have a Translation though. I still have yet to play it.

>>1304895

The PC-88 and Pc-Engine version look the best.

>>1305004

The Saturn version looks pretty good too.

>>1305039

True, but to be fair the PC-98 and PC-Engine version have the chara design that fit better to my taste (80's anime girls are the best).

The PC88 port of Rance 2 has black & white portraits because the system could only display 8 colors at a time and they used the extended palette for the main view.
The Towns, x68k and Win 9x ports look identical to the PC98 original but had some upgrades in the interface and somewhat different sound.

>>1301676
Akumajou Dracula is a Castlevania remake with some very exciting new content.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpRihhIxznc

Best version of Ys

Some of you more enterprising neckbeards should slap together a rudimentary PC-88/PC-98 recommendation .jpg.

A lot of these games look great, but it's rough trying to slog through them and find out which ones have English translations, much less which ones are decent to begin with.

>>1311058
>find out which ones have English translations
Is there any that isn't "Farland Story"?

>>1311087
There are a few fan translations for PC88 and PC98 on Romhacking
http://www.romhacking.net/?page=translations&genre=&platform=3&status=&languageid=12&perpage=20&title=&author=&transsearch=Go
The more difficult part is discerning which games have little to no Japanese text.
Then you have to consider games that were initially made on those platforms, ported to another platform and translated there. Some of those ports are pretty close, others stray far from the source.

For the PC88 you may as well consider starting up a whole database because the whole library has practically no documentation in English and shit like modes, clock speeds and possible emulator issues.

Are there any PC-98 emulators you all would recommend? I'm curious about playing the PC-98 version of Popful Mail.

>>1311575

Most people will recommend Neko Project II fmgen since it's the only one that is still getting updates.

>>1277270

Thought she had a head wound from the thumbnail

>>1311575
I'm pretty sure that its just the PC-88 version of the game running on 98 hardware. You'd probably like it though, its more playable than the Sega CD version, imo. It doesn't rely on what is basically save state scumming the way that version does, because the difficulty isn't so insanely scaled. It also has similar combat to the early Ys games, you just walk into the enemies to hit them.

>>1310762
This makes my dick rock hard.

>>1312410

The game is called Metal Orange, you can get it on both PC-98 and x68000 (the x68k version is enhanced).

>>1313072
The original is for the PC88. It's a nice Arkanoid/Breakout game with Gradius powerups.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tx3O-XvASM

Alpha is a qt.

>>1313083

I don't know if there's any PC-98 game made before 1989 that haven't been released on PC-88 before.

>>1313093
There were games made on the 98 and then ported to the 88 just like you had games from the X1 and FM7 because the 88 was typically a platform you didn't want to miss but it's true most games from the 80s started on the 88.
Daisenryaku for instance was originally a PC98 game and followed by Daisenryaku 88, FM and X1.

Wow, does this version has an audio cassette playing in the background? Because it's freaking beautiful, and I don't think the FM-7 has a CD-ROM player.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3iPt3RRBGI

>>1314034
All 4 versions (FM-7, PC88, X1, PC98) I have fit on a single floppy image. I can't get sound in the PC98 version for some reason.

The FM-77AV is an interesting machine nonetheless. 4096 colors is quite a feat for a 8 bit machine even when they did great with just 8.

>>1314280

Isn't it a bit too much for an 8-bit machine?
I mean, with 4096 colors, you need 12-bit in chunky mode to define the color of 1 pixel, thus requiring more than 1 memory operation to define a single pixel. At a 640*200 resolution, making one picture would be slow as fuck with so much colors on an 8-bit machine.

>>1314318
The 4096 color mode is only 320x200.

>>1314331

Oh well. but that would still take a lot of time.

>>1314331

Ok well.

After searching for the specs of the machines, I think it might be possible to achieve it faster than I though, thanks to the two MC6809 CPUs.

>>1314358
If you DO THE MATH it's actually a 16 bit machine.

>>1314034

It's from a flexible record actually.

>>1314034
>not recognizing the sound of a record

How disappointing.

>>1314518
>dem pops

>>1314373

Nope, one is the main CPU while the other is the just the Video processor.

>>1314408

She look like Yohko from Genmu Senki Leda.

The original Sokoban has the problem that you erase points when you walk over them.

>>1313072
Thanks. Downloading.

Is there a way to play Yu-No on a mac? I don't have access to a pc right now.

>>1316907
Puru is so cute. Best part of ZZ

On nom nom nom Dericious Runch Pakku

Preview of Ys 8 with Chinese Knockoff Adol

>>1319003
You could emulate a PC98, a Sega Saturn or another IBM clone running Windows 98 but Mac OS isn't that gifted with emulators.

Depending on which emulator I use Wizardry either runs in 640x200 with skip lines or 640x400 with an additional option for Kanji.

are the pics on this site from pc98 games? (adult pics on site)

http://nizi1.com/?no=6222

>>1319607

Yes.

>>1319607
If it's 640x400 and has more than 8 colors it's rather likely it's PC98. Larger images used panning.
The 8 bit computers technically had lines doubles which can usually be noticed upon magnification.
Windows eroge use 640x480 or 800x600. They only recently upgraded to higher resolutions.
FM Towns also used 640x480 but doesn't have many eroge specifically made for it.
X68000 used odd resolutions like 512x512.

>>1306848
it's amazing how good it looks even with only two colors

>>1283319
>daily reminder that cities suck ass

I wish I could live in a bladerunneresque city.

OH GOSH somebody please help me.

I've been trying to emulate this obscure game, Pink Shock Pirates 2, I think, for an extremely long time, failing every time just because I can't fucking find the ROMs.

So a miracle happens and I find it, finally. I try Anex, can't fucking read the FDD files. I try converting them to FDI, VFIC says it can't convert them so I decide to use NEKO instead and convert the files to D88, which it can read.

And then this error happens and I realize I can't fucking read Japanese.

Help.

>>1321318

Can't read Japanese, but it looks like a problem with the BIOS ROM. Look up what you need to do to load one for NEKO and maybe try a couple different ones to see what happens while you wait for someone who can read moon.

>>1321318
Load the disk images, then reset the machine.

>>1321318
Get the emulator pack from >>1277826.
You're lacking one of the rom that's only necessary for a few games.

>>1319389
Upon closer inspection it seems to depend on the clock speed. Kanji mode apparently requires more than 8 MHz. Too fast isn't good for the game either since you no longer see whether you moved or not.

>>1321924
>>1321406
>>1321397

Thanks a lot, it worked. Have some cheesecake.

>>1322871

Where is this from?

>>1321924
>>1321406
>>1321397

Jesus Christ, it worked!

Holy shit, thanks.

>>1322883
From a game called W Mission.

http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ099810.html

The same guy who did the Tifa-Tan games. It isn't very good and I'd reccoment playing this instead:

http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ124558.html

A game heavily based on Wonder Momo with fantastic, retro gameplay and lots of cheesecake. If you are into girls running around the streets naked, some cute, mostly non-violent Ryona, beat-em-ups and lots of unlockables as the game goes on, this is for you.

Read this if you are stuck AKA read it when you reach a room full of pillars:

http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=23633