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help an anon out, /vr/ Sat Nov 30 01:13:31 2013 No.1234075 [DELETED]

So when are we gonna talk about any GBA/GBA SP games?

Every time I put up a Sonic Battle thread on /v/, I always get this:

>>/deviantART/
>gba games are shovel ware shit
>go get a 3DS faggot
>obligatory reddit maymay style comment
>NeoGAF style shit talk
>rouge/amy porn dump
>autism thread
>sammy thread

Hell, there was a favorite GBA game thread that lasted for a 3/4 of the day. (maybe because it wasn't a sonic thread)

You guys are now allow to talk about Dreamcast and other old 6th gen consoles/portables and games. (except GC, PS2, or XBOX)

So why not GBA, its kinda in the same place where Dreamcast is, right?

don't ban me, I'm really eager right now and just want to know

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 01:15:30 2013 No.1234079 >>1234075 Probably next year.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 01:17:30 2013 No.1234080 >>1234075 Also looking forward to this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 01:27:30 2013 No.1234097 It's just not retro. I don't think it'll ever really be "retro," either It's got a completely different feel from genuine retro games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 01:31:00 2013 No.1234107 >>1234097 This, I still think GBA games feel modern. I think it's probably just an o/vr/age thing, once the kids who got GBAs in elementary school are dragging their heels in their mid-late 20s I'll consider saying it's retro

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 01:33:00 2013 No.1234109
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>>1234075

I knew this would be a slippery slope. Why not just have a board for Gen 6 consoles and games?

On an unrelated note, the music in Pokemon Ruby and Sapphire is absolute balls because of the cheesy horns.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 01:35:35 2013 No.1234117 >>1234109 i suggest that before like a v2k or something

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 01:37:01 2013 No.1234121 >>1234097 >It's just not retro I don't really see how. Much of the game design is similar to the 16 bit consoles. What exactly sets it apart? The fact it had pretty graphics in hand?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 01:40:00 2013 No.1234129 >>1234121 It wasn't 16 bit and it didn't look 16 bit at all, aside from being "pixel art".

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 01:41:30 2013 No.1234132

>So why not GBA, its kinda in the same place where Dreamcast is, right?
no its not. The rule was that pre 99 was ok, but 6th gen was out. Dreamcast was released pre 99, but is considered 6th gen, which is where the arguments came from.
GBA is neither pre 99, nor pre-6th gen.
So basically we went from the 1999 and 6th gen rule, to just pre 1999, which the GBA does not fall under.

As much as I hated the fags who kept spewing it in the Dreamcast threads, allowing the GBA really would start a slippery slope. because then we'd be skipping over the PS2 release and adding another gap to the rules.

>You guys are now allowed to talk about Dreamcast and other old 6th gen consoles/portables and games. (except GC, PS2, or XBOX)
GC, PS2, and the Xbox ARE the other 6th gen consoles. So no, we're not " allowed to talk about Dreamcast and other old 6th gen consoles/portables and games." only the Dreamcast because it was released in 1999.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 01:43:30 2013 No.1234135 >>1234129 So, it had prettier graphics. What was not retro about its design? Come on, give me some points. A decent standard.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 01:45:30 2013 No.1234138

>>1234132
>As much as I hated the fags who kept spewing it in the Dreamcast threads, allowing the GBA really would start a slippery slope. because then we'd be skipping over the PS2 release and adding another gap to the rules.

I just don't get how this is a problem. If it's outdated hardware, it's outdated hardware. It's not as though /v/ is going to discuss it, and indeed discussion of anything not fairly current on /v/ is in my experience not terribly productive.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 01:48:22 2013 No.1234147 >>1234135 So, what's not retro about the PS4? It has prettier graphics?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 01:49:52 2013 No.1234152 >>1234147 It's current hardware and games are still in regular production for it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 01:50:22 2013 No.1234153 >>1234132 >not knowing Nokia N-gage

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 01:54:22 2013 No.1234160

>>1234097
>>1234107
I still think it comes down to the technology. The "fifth generation" was still pretty primitive and everyone did things differently (especially Sega), but after that all the consoles started to end up doing the same things (similar gamepads,DVDs, network adapters etc.) and the competition slowly died. The previous generation at least went from SD to HD (which was never a problem in the PC scene), but the latest offers nothing new except more social network / normalfag bullshit (Facebook, Netflix etc).

>>1234138
Outdated != retro. And I think this applies to any field; when 90's cars are called "vintage", I recognize the sixth generation" as retro.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 01:56:52 2013 No.1234163 >>1234152 >games are still in regular production That's not the definition of retro

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:05:53 2013 No.1234178 >>1234163 Indeed, but neither is the definition used here retro. Retro style refers to concepts and styles that either imitate or are derived from past styles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:08:52 2013 No.1234180 >>1234178 Would you prefer if this board was called Vintage Games? Just how autistic are you?

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:10:52 2013 No.1234186

>>1234160
>Outdated != retro.

No, something newly produced that's styled after an older item is retro.

I think a more relevant description, even if it doesn't meat the definition (which neither does the classification used here) would be to describe games that are are becoming apparently outdated. Either through dated graphics, style, or design philosophy. Which is actually starting to describe quite a few games. Halo for instance, while one can definitely observe more similarities between it and modern shooters than one can between Quake and modern shooters, the fact remains that it is beginning to shows its age. Another example would be Metroid prime, which feels downright anarchronistic in modern gaming.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:11:52 2013 No.1234190 >>1234180 Not so autistic as to hammer on the non-meaning of a term to shut down an opinion that disagrees with me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:14:22 2013 No.1234194 >>1234190 >getting this mad over colloquial use of terms not meeting his strict literal interpretation >unable to infer the spirit of the board Definition of autism

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:20:52 2013 No.1234203 >>1234194 >u mad Hello shitposter, my old friend, I've come to talk with you again, Because a posting softly creeping, Left its seeds while I was reading, And the posting that was planted in my brain Still remains Within the sound of hurrdurr.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:25:22 2013 No.1234217 >>1234203 We're slowly being invaded. This is a matter of grave concern.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:27:22 2013 No.1234219 >>1234075 >Sonic Battle >shovelware >shit I liked Sonic Battle :(

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:36:22 2013 No.1234234 >>1234203 >unable to defend his actions >copy/pasta response I can only gather you came here to shitpost.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:39:55 2013 No.1234241 The GBA should be considered retro since it was basically a portable SNES.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:40:25 2013 No.1234247

>>1234234
I came here to laugh at you!

Nah, seriously, I just like discussing the subject of what constitutes retro here. But I'm not entirely certain what response you'd expect from on 'you have the autisms". I'm pretty sure it's an ad-hominem, since it's not even being paired with an argument. Just a direct attempt to discredit through labeling of mental disorder.

Also, I modified that stanza myself.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:44:54 2013 No.1234254

>>1234075
GBA is now allowed? Holy shit, I'm stoked as fuck. This is probably my favorite console and the culmination of everything I loved about retro gaming.

I've been trying to go through and play some games I've missed for the system, just started up Rebel Star. I can see the XCOM influences, but it doesn't look like there will be a tactical map, just a bunch of missions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:48:24 2013 No.1234263 >>1234254 It's not.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:55:54 2013 No.1234280 >>1234247 There's nothing to discuss. See >>1216281

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 02:59:24 2013 No.1234285 >>1234280 I'd be inclined to agree, but this thread is already here, and I don't think the idle chatter is hurting anything.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:00:54 2013 No.1234290

>>1234075
>So why not GBA, its kinda in the same place where Dreamcast is, right?
Look, please stop this. At least the Dreamcast came out before the cutoff date. GBA came out in what, 2001? You're better off talking about GBA on /vg/ or something, why the hell did you go to /v/ anyways?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:06:54 2013 No.1234303 >>1234290 >why the hell did you go to /v/ anyways? He's probably some hapless rube that thought people discuss video games over there. Or someone who was looking for dolphin porn and is in utter denial.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:06:54 2013 No.1234304

>>1234290
>You're better off talking about GBA on /vg/ or something,

Just so you guys know, /vg/ is a legit good board. Mostly because in most threads, you're surrounded by other people who like what you like. This doesn't turn threads into a circlejerk as people outside of /vg/ might think (debates/arguments happen all the time), but rather, it's a place that allows people to discuss their interests at hand without the fear of being shitposted to death/pushed off the board by "chatroom" speed discussions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:08:24 2013 No.1234306 >>1234304 Ok, so, what exactly sets a 'general' thread apart from any other kind of thread?

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:11:54 2013 No.1234313

>>1234306

Nothing really. General threads are basically threads where people who like something can come together and talk. Some generals have very specific interests (like one game) whereas others have broad interests (some generals cover entire series/genres/etc)

The main difference is that on /vg/ most people don't go out of their way to shitpost a thread that they don't like. The users are also generally smart enough to report/ignore people who just try to come into to derail shit.

Threads also last for a long time, compared to /v/. This is good because instead of those "chatroom" speed discussions I talked about, you can actually take the time to read and post things.

Everything's not golden over there. But if you find a good general, it's a lot better than /v/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:13:54 2013 No.1234318 >>1234313 Interesting. I'll take a peak.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:16:24 2013 No.1234321 >>1234318 Considering they have 3DS/Vita/PS4 generals over there, I think a properly done GBA general could be done over there.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:16:24 2013 No.1234323

I think we should have a clear rule, for example, this board is for discussing games and consoles at least 15 years old.
So, today be would be able to discuss games released before november 30 of 1998.

We could even have a thread for the "new" games we would be able to discuss every week because they have become at least 15 years old.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:19:24 2013 No.1234328 >>1234304 The glory of /vg/ is that it's a bunch of small communities and since if you're on /vg/ there's always something relevant going on related to what you like there's little reason to get bored and shitpost.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:19:54 2013 No.1234329 >>1234323 >expecting people to precisely keep track of release dates like pedantic bean-counters

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:20:24 2013 No.1234331 >>1234323 It's easy enough as is. All games for the allowed consoles are allowed, as are all games for PC published before 2000. Changing this would make it more complicated than it needs to be.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:32:54 2013 No.1234345

>>1234329
>>1234331

Retro fans are capable of far more autistic things, I think it would be rather easy, just wikipedia browsing.

Having a clear rule would eliminate the problem of people asking in a few years if we can discuss Gamecube or Playstation 2 games. They would have just to wait for the games to turn 15 years old.
Otherwise we will end up with abstract discussions about what is retro and what is not retro.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:36:24 2013 No.1234348
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>>1234075
>So when are we gonna talk about any GBA/GBA SP games?
Probably when the 3DS 2 comes out in like five to six years from now, and even then /vr/ isn't very welcoming of anything 6th gen, mostly because they can't get over the /vee/ bogeyman. I'd kill to have PS2 & Xbox discussions here but that probably won't happen until the PS5 & Xbox Two is released . I guess we're lucky DC is allowed at all, but I really wish /vr/ would take the stick out their asses about PS2 at least. There's a lot of borderline retro content on that thing and I think we'd be capable of having great discussions about it here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:36:54 2013 No.1234349 >>1234345 It should just be games released on 1999 and before. That clears up the generation crap and slippery slope.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:36:54 2013 No.1234350 >>1234345 Put it in through feedback maybe? State your case, the potential advantages and hope Moot finds it favorable. Of course, I think this discussion has been done over and over back and forth, when /q/ was still around.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:37:24 2013 No.1234351 >>1234323 There is a clear rule. See >>1216281

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:38:54 2013 No.1234352 >>1234349 >It should just be games released on 1999 and before. Fuck that. I'd like to be able to discuss games that aren't currently popular sometime.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:40:54 2013 No.1234353 >>1234352 Then go somewhere else.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 03:41:54 2013 No.1234354 >>1234350 Feedback hasn't been updated in what, nearly a month?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 04:14:24 2013 No.1234417 >>1234353 How about you go suck a dick? The rules have already changed with the release of the current gen, and will likely do so again.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 04:32:14 2013 No.1234450
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>>1234352
>>1234417
This. I will never understand /vr/'s militant hateboner for anything 6th gen.
>Then go somewhere else.
No one should ever have to deal with /v/, have some fucking mercy.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 04:32:16 2013 No.1234449

>>1234417
Yeah. When the next gen drops. Look, just because we actually talk about video games here doesn't mean we're obligated to assume a ton of discussion topics that are relegated to /v/. It's not our fault that place is a shithole, that's why we're not there.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 04:41:15 2013 No.1234467

>>1234450
>This. I will never understand /vr/'s militant hateboner for anything 6th gen.

They probably think that the only reason /vr/ is civil is because it has a lot of old stuff. In reality, it's probably civil because it's slower and the people who inhabit the board don't want to put up with /v/. And I just want to point out that /vr/ has its own flavor of autism wars that isn't exactly better than /v/. SNES vs. Genesis, N64 vs. Playstation, CRT vs. LCD, anything and everything emulators, etc. I don't care for any of these dumb arguments and don't want anymore on our board, but some people need to keep perspective. They may have more shit over there, but ours is just as smelly. Keep that in mind, everyone.

That being said, I don't think PS2 and company should be allowed on /vr/. Yet. Give it some more years. I don't understand people who say things will never be retro, though. If this board is here in 2020, the PS2/Xbox/GCN will be older than the N64/PSX is now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 04:51:15 2013 No.1234480 >>1234417 Yeah, and you can't wait a few years? Do you think you're the only one who has problems with the rules on what makes video games retro? >>1234450 >somewhere else = /v/ There is /vg/, sperglord.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 05:34:47 2013 No.1234510 File: 44 KB, 194x188, 1378173473973.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Wanna talk about some PS2 games >Can't talk about them on /v/ >Can't talk about them on /vr/ >Don't get to talk about those games ever

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 05:40:17 2013 No.1234519

Oh shit, I fucking loved the GBA back in the day. Fire Emblem and Metroid Fusion were absolutely killer, and being able to play A Link to The Past on a portable system was the coolest shit ever. Through emulation I would eventually discover a whole bunch of other awesome games, including a surprisingly fiathful port of Max Payne.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 05:46:47 2013 No.1234526

>>1234510
Hopefully we can get PS2 GC and Xbox discussion here eventually. /vr/ has made 1.2 million posts in under a year and it's a slow board. But we've discussed what we have to death until we find something obscure or not-as-known. Like that YU-NO thread.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 05:50:17 2013 No.1234535

>>1234526
The way I look at it, the PS2 and GC are currently two generations old. Back in the 360/PS3 generation, the PSX and N64 were two generations old, and no one had problems regarding them as "retro" consoles. Now we're in the PS4/XBone generation, so I think we can all agree that the PS2 and Gamecube have become old enough to achieve "retro" status.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 06:07:34 2013 No.1234557

>"We want Dreamcast!"
>"If Dreamcast gets allowed in, everyone else will be bitching that things like the Gamecube, PS2, Xbox, or GBA didn't get in"
>"That'll never happen!"

How many fucking topics does this make since Dreamcast has been allowed on /vr/?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 06:12:34 2013 No.1234559 >>1234075 Poor /vr/ I only lurk here sometimes but I notice that /v/ is so bad that you have to put up with their shit "I know this isnt retro but /v/ sucks so much I have to do it here"

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 06:22:50 2013 No.1234568 >>1234510 I know dat feel bro, it's even worse with og Xbox discussion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 06:34:20 2013 No.1234578 >>1234519 >a surprisingly fiathful port of Max Payne. Wow, really? I remember seeing the magazine adverts for it and assuming that it was gonna be total trash. That's super interesting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 06:56:51 2013 No.1234596 Stop. Your thread is the exact reason there were so many people against the Dreamcast being allowed on /vr/.

>>	bitgawd !!rEkSWzi2+mz Sat Nov 30 08:44:41 2013 No.1234679 File: 1.62 MB, 3264x2448, 1385819015824.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is cool and nöyrä

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 08:50:11 2013 No.1234690 >>1234679 >kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 09:30:45 2013 No.1234741 /vr/ should probably just be nuked since these kinds of threads are just going to keep being made. Having a retro video game board is absolutely worthless when the line for what's retro keeps moving.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 09:34:15 2013 No.1234752 >>1234741 As long as /v/ is all about flavour of the month, console wars, reddit and anti-feminism I reckon "retro" should be anything two gens before the current.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 09:34:16 2013 No.1234750 >>1234510 >Wanna talk about some PS2 games >Can't talk about them on /v/ Except you can, easily. How about instead of shitting up a board with a specific purpose you go make threads that are actually interesting on the boards where they belong?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 11:24:22 2013 No.1234921 >>1234567

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 11:42:53 2013 No.1234956
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I really hope all this "Hurrrr since the Dreamcast got added can this be added too?!" shit fades out over the next month or whatever.
You can certainly have a good thread about whatever the fuck you want on /v/, you just need to start it and get it off the ground.
Yeah, people are going to call you an autist for Sonic. If you just wanted to talk about CoD I don't think they'd be happy either. (Not comparing the two, just the mindset of people who dislike them.)
Threads about this aren't going to do any good. I'm not saying GBA shouldn't be discussed here, I'd like that too, but I'm sure it'll be added soon enough. Eventually, PS2/Gamecube/Xbox will be included too. But lets just wait for it to happen rather than just bitch about it not being allowed yet. It's not constructive and does no good.

tl;dr: Don't post this on /vr/

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 11:52:53 2013 No.1234969 >>1234741 >Having a retro video game board is absolutely worthless when the line for what's retro keeps moving. Honesty, for a "retro" gaming board, I don't understand why Playstation/N64 are allowed. Those are too new to be retro.

>>	OP Sat Nov 30 12:44:53 2013 No.1235084 >>1234303 hey, fuck off, i only go there if there actually something interesting going on there. I lurk in /vr/, sometimes /vg/ and /co/ most of the time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 12:58:53 2013 No.1235108 >>1235084 >my personal blog Fuck off back to /v/

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 13:00:53 2013 No.1235113

>>1234075
You want to talk about Sonic Battle in particular, right? Why don't you bring it up in a Sonic thread? Either here or on /vg/, that'd ensure you're among other Sonic fans willing to discuss it with you. And the janitors aren't super strict, so if you're discreet about it you should be fine - I've seen people ask opinions on wii games and such in other threads. Sonic Battle was fun, but I don't think there's so much to say that it warrants its own thread.

>>	OP Sat Nov 30 13:14:53 2013 No.1235138 >>1235113 I tried doing it on /vg/, but nobody came Proof: https://archive.foolz.us/vg/thread/53992782/#53992782 Plus, /vg/ is always too busy on there long lasting online games....

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 13:31:23 2013 No.1235170

>>1235138
...okay, to be honest, I can see why nobody responded to that. There's too many questions! I do like the game, but I never played Challenge Mode. I played it so long ago I don't remember what I put on Emerl. I never thought about what they should've added, or a sequel, or my favorite arena/story and... all that stuff is just too much to answer for me and thus I wouldn't say anything. It makes it seem like it's something for hardcore Sonic Battle fans only, especially with the "how many times did you beat it?" question. It's discouraging.

Try something more accessible. Just put one of the questions, like: "Sonic Battle General! Have you played it? Who's your main?". Then you can ask more questions bit by bit as the thread progresses, once you have some people available to discuss. Or just go into a Sonic General thread and bring it up there, again with just one or two of the questions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 13:33:23 2013 No.1235181 >>1235138 >>1235170 Oh, also, don't bring up "I tried to bring it up in /v/ but they were busy being assholes" and stuff like that. It makes you seem spiteful, and that's never good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 13:37:23 2013 No.1235191 >>1235170 >>1235181 I guess that will work out....

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:00:16 2013 No.1235254

>>1234075
>You guys are now allow to talk about Dreamcast and other old 6th gen consoles/portables and games. (except GC, PS2, or XBOX)
>Dreamcast and other old 6th gen consoles/portables and games
>other old 6th gen consoles/portables and games
>other than Dreamcast

Uh... no?

>With the release of the 8th generation of consoles, the Sega Dreamcast will now be considered "retro", though the remainder of the sixth generation (Xbox, PS2, GameCube) will not.
>Sega Dreamcast will now be considered "retro"
>the remainder of the sixth generation will not
>the remainder
>will not

It says so in the fucking sticky that the Dreamcast is the exception. PC games and the Neo Geo Pocket Color may fall into a grey area, but the rules on anything that is definitively 6th gen are spelled out in plain English in the first post you will (most likely) always see on this board. I'm not against GBA discussion, but please don't fool yourself into thinking it falls as well within the rules as you think it does.

With all that said, Gunstar Super Heroes is the shit. It's a shame there's no 2-player option and it would be nice if the game didn't have more screen real-estate to work with, but I'm pretty sure those were system limitations Treasure simply just had to deal with. Once you get past those two qualms, the game itself feels like everything a sequel should be. I even like the way the difficulty was ramped up somewhat, because it's almost too easy to breeze through the original on Normal playing solo. I like how this game feels like Alien Soldier without having to hand you your own ass the first time you play the game, and I also like the "hold B to shoot, tap B to swing your sword" weapon controls like in Sin & Punishment.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:03:16 2013 No.1235264 Guy who posted >>1235254 posting again right away to make a correction >it would be nice if the game didn't have more screen real-estate to work with That should actually be > it would be nice if the game had more screen real-estate to work with

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:20:46 2013 No.1235313
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I just want my long GBA threads in this cozy board but I have to wait like 5 more fucking years to do so.

neo-/v/ and some outsiders will just shit up the fucking thread and /vg/ wouldn't bothering talking.

Moot might as well make another /v/ board dedicated for 6th gen only and call it /v6/

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:23:33 2013 No.1235320 >>1235313 >neo-/v/ Kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:29:31 2013 No.1235341 >>1235313 >/v6/ While I don't think it should happen, I do like the name.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:31:01 2013 No.1235349 >>1235313 There was a great GBA thread last night on /v/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:33:01 2013 No.1235354 >>1235349 two nights ago as a matter of fact >>1235320 reported and i don't give a shit about you

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:33:01 2013 No.1235357 >>1235349 And there's great SNES and Genesis and PS1 and so on threads on rare occasions. Everything /vr/ currently is allowed to discuss CAN be, and IS discussed on /v/ as well. What's your point?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:34:01 2013 No.1235359 >>1235313 People in hell want ice water.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:34:01 2013 No.1235360 >(maybe because it wasn't a sonic thread) nailed it

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:35:02 2013 No.1235365 >>1235359 meaning?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:35:31 2013 No.1235361 >>1235359 Why did you even bother posting if you don't have anything to say?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:36:31 2013 No.1235369 >>1235357 That we don't need GBA discussions here because it's not retro yet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:37:48 2013 No.1235373 >>1235357 My point is GBA is not /vr/ Thats fact.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:38:18 2013 No.1235374 >>1235365 Not him, but people want what they can't have. Is it that hard to understand? No reason to complain and beg for it 'cause it ain't happening.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:38:48 2013 No.1235375 >>1235369 >>1235373 The system is 12 years old. 13 in about a month. How fucking old does it need to be?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:39:18 2013 No.1235379 >>1235361 >>1235365 Waaah I wanna talk about not /vr/ on /vr/ because I can't handle the board culture of that other video game board.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:39:48 2013 No.1235380 >>1235375 the rules are <1999 GBA was 2001. GBA is not retro. deal with it

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:41:18 2013 No.1235385 >>1235375 >I had it as a kid so it must be retro Good lord

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:42:18 2013 No.1235391 >>1235379 get out, reddit/neoGAF

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:46:48 2013 No.1235397 >>1235391 It isn't my fault that you can't read the fucking rules dude, you fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:49:18 2013 No.1235407 File: 74 KB, 310x342, Man of the Winter.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1235397 yeah, you tell him, fella

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:49:48 2013 No.1235406 Report and ignore

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:55:18 2013 No.1235436 >>1234075 Eventually were going to have to lump in gen 6 with /vr/ discussion. Unless we start classifying gaming generations like the stone age, ice age, iron age.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:57:48 2013 No.1235442 >>1235380 >>1235385 Define "retro"

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 14:59:49 2013 No.1235447 >>1235442 For the purposes of /vr/ <2000.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 15:01:48 2013 No.1235452 >>1235447 Yeah but outside of that "retro" is arbitrary.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 15:02:48 2013 No.1235456

>>1235406
>he didn't say "don't ban me, I'm really eager right now and just want to know", we gotta ban this 6th gen peasant so we can keep our retrospective /v/ clean!

/vr/ being butthurt about letting only a few 6th gen consoles/portable in (Dreamcast, N-gage, Neo Geo Pocket Color, and GBA)

...is compared to...

/a/ being butthurt about any popular animu and mango with some cool energy manipulation shit (DBZ, Kill la Kill, Fist of the North Star, etc.)

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 15:04:48 2013 No.1235463 File: 98 KB, 343x317, 1382910128183.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1235447 <2001

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 15:06:48 2013 No.1235467 File: 1.90 MB, 400x300, 1382194601319.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1235442 Why? What would be the point? /vr/ is <1999. These are the rules. You don't like them? well deal with it. Life's cruel you will get over it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 15:08:49 2013 No.1235474 >>1235467 >not making life any easier for the sake of our Lord (God) and Savior (Jesus) you are the worst kind of person

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 15:08:49 2013 No.1235475

>>1235442
Any home console that cannot produce 3D textured polygon-based games under its own power.

Any home console or handheld device released in the year 1995 or earlier, with the exception of the Playstation, Saturn, 3DO, Jaguar, etc. since they could produce 3D textured polygon-based games under their own power.

PC games released in 1996 or earlier.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 15:15:48 2013 No.1235498 File: 94 KB, 717x723, 1372649655082.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1235380 >>1235463 >>1235467 >video games on platforms launched in 1999 and earlier >1999 and earlier >199 and earlier = before 2000 >Before 2000 = <2000

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 15:20:48 2013 No.1235516 File: 94 KB, 717x723, 1372649655082.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1235380 >>1235463 >>1235467 >video games on platforms launched in 1999 and earlier >1999 and earlier >1999 and earlier = before 2000 >Before 2000 = <2000

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 15:21:48 2013 No.1235520 >>1235516 Thanks mum x

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 16:12:07 2013 No.1235650 >>1234097 It uses traditional cartridges, it (originally) used AA-Batteries, it needed a link-cable, and it is the last GameBoy. I think it should be honored here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:02:37 2013 No.1235749 >>1235385 >assuming I was a kid when the GBA came out just because I think it's stupid to be arbitrarily stuck discussing only things 1999 and earlier Nah, get fucked kid.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:11:37 2013 No.1235763 >>1235749 >Gets upset over the rules I can understand why the other anon thought you was a child. You're complaining and acting like one. Tho your a rebel right? talking about GBA on /vr/ is cool and against the rulez!!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:25:37 2013 No.1235785 >>1235763 Are you stupid or something? The rules are a line in the sand based on fucking nothing, and it can easily be changed to be less stupid. That's what I want. I'm not trying to discuss GBA games right now.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:32:37 2013 No.1235803

>>1235785
>The rules are a line in the sand based on fucking nothing, and it can easily be changed to be be based on fucking nothing.

This is why people were so opposed to the Dreamcast being allowed, because of posters like you. If you don't draw the line SOMEWHERE, then there's no point for this board to exist. The rules clearly state systems released in 1999 or before and that the only sixth-gen system allowed is the Dreamcast. If the GBA were allowed, we'd start getting more faggots like you saying "B-B-BUT WHAT ABOUT THE PS2, GAMECUBE, AND XBOX! THEY ALL CAME OUT IN 2001, JUST LIKE THE GBA!"

The GBA does not meet either of those criteria to be discussed here, end of discussion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:34:07 2013 No.1235806 >>1235785 >i don't like the rules Then fuck off. Simple really.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:37:37 2013 No.1235810

>>1235803
>"B-B-BUT WHAT ABOUT THE PS2, GAMECUBE, AND XBOX! THEY ALL CAME OUT IN 2001, JUST LIKE THE GBA!"
I'd want all of 6th gen to be allowed, so there's no issue here.
7th would not be allowed until all the major players had their 9th gen consoles out.
Arcade and PC stuff up to a decade ago should be allowed as well, I think.

>>1235806
Nah, I'm far from the only person dissatisfied with these shitty rules that could easily be changed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:39:07 2013 No.1235813 >>1235810 >I'd want all of 6th gen to be allowed, so there's no issue here. BUT THE WII IS BASICALLY A GAMECUBE SO ITS NOT FAIR THE WII SHOULD BE IN RETRO BECAUSE THE GAMECUBE.. This is what you sound like.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:41:37 2013 No.1235817 NOT RETRO.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:42:07 2013 No.1235819

You can't discuss anything on /v/ anymore, that place is a shithole.

I think we should be allowed to talk about GBA games, considering they /are/ pretty old now, and even Gamestop considers them retro.

It would breath some life back into this board, which is slowly dying

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:43:07 2013 No.1235824 >>1235819 You can't discuss anything on /v/ anymore There was a great GBA thread last night. Go start one on /v/ you will be surprised.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:44:07 2013 No.1235829

>>1235813
I have provided easy to understand rules: anything 2 generations ago, or if generations do not apply, 10 years ago. There's no room for "B-BUT, WHY ISN'T THIS ALLOWED" with my suggested rules.
If you want to see more "B-BUT, WHY ISN'T THIS ALLOWED WHEN SUCH AND SUCH THING IS?" then by all means, continue supporting the garbage rules we have now where part of 6th gen is allowed but the rest isn't for no meaningful reason.
Stop trying to troll me and actually fucking think about it. It would be a definite improvement.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:44:38 2013 No.1235826 I don't see any good reason why we shouldn't discuss all of 6th gen here. It is retro.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:45:07 2013 No.1235834 >>1235830 This

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:45:37 2013 No.1235830 When this board came out, anything from two gens before the current one was considered retro. Now that we're at the 8th gen, why can't we allow 6th gen games to be discussed?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:46:07 2013 No.1235836 >>1235829 But why? the wii should be ok because its basically the gamecube. Its basically 6th gen this is fact. so your points are mute. i want the wii in.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:48:07 2013 No.1235837 >>1235836 Wii is 7th gen, you gibbering retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:48:37 2013 No.1235840 >>1235836 The Wii is a seventh generation game console. You cannot argue this. Goodbye.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:48:37 2013 No.1235841 >>1235836 The Wii isn't 6th gen at all though, nobody considers it to be. It just seems to be the obvious solution to have a blanket rule of 2 generations. This dreamcast-exception shit is whack as fuck, and makes no sense at all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:49:28 2013 No.1235845 I don't see why 6th gen games can't be discussed here when we're now entering the 8th gen. Mods are just lazy fucks who don't want to change the rules

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:49:28 2013 No.1235847 >>1235837 But its the gamecube rewrapped. so its ok. the wii is 6th gen in specs so i want it in retro if you want all 6th gen..

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:50:28 2013 No.1235849 Everybody considers 6th gen consoles like the gamecube, and xbox to be retro anyways

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:50:28 2013 No.1235850 >>1235841 >>1235840 >>1235837 If the 6th gen is ok i was the 7th gen. its old now and retro thanks to the XboxONE and the PS4.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:51:58 2013 No.1235856 >>1235467 I dont think you get it. Your manchild brain might be stuck in the past, but time moves on. Retro is going to encompass more games and no arbitrary site rule is going to change it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:51:58 2013 No.1235857 >>1235850 Sorry opinions get you so riled up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:52:58 2013 No.1235861 >>1235847 >>1235850 Can I report this sort of post? Someone fill me in here. It's pretty blatant shitposting, but it's not quite so blatant that the report would definitely not be frivolous. I'm torn. Help.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:53:29 2013 No.1235862 >>1235836 Gr8 b8, must be str8 f8 I didn't w8 or hesitat8 to r8 an 8.8, no h8. Now that I 8 with N8 by the g8 can't be l8 for my d8 with K8, she'd be in an ir8 st8. Cya m8.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:53:29 2013 No.1235863 >>1235856 But but the rules... Even if you don't like them the rules are <2000. You don't like it you know where the door is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:54:29 2013 No.1235865 If we just had a two-generation separation rule then all these arguments would just disappear and the content would change with the time. It makes total sense. >>1235861 Follow yr heart

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:55:29 2013 No.1235869

>>1235861
No you can't sadly.

I wish you could just report people for shitposting and being retarded, but you can't.

I think we should just leave 4chan altogether, there are way too many idiots to have any sort of normal discussion, and the mods won't do anything about it.

People who shitpost should just be permanently banned on the spot. It's the only way to get people to learn. They are a nuisance to everyone, and greatly detract from the quality of this site. And it seems to just get worse every day

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:55:29 2013 No.1235870 >>1235861 Why? im being serious. The Wii is basically a Gamecube. so if you want the 6th gen in retro i feel and want the Wii in. >>1235862 How is this even B8? If you guys want to change the rules why stop at Gen 6? Gen7 is now old.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:55:59 2013 No.1235871 >>1235863 Ok so when year 2020 comes around will we get a board to discuss vidya from 2000-2010?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:55:59 2013 No.1235873 Retro = from the 20th century

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:57:29 2013 No.1235874 >>1235836 Stop trying to change things to accommodate YOU. You're acting selfish.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:57:29 2013 No.1235878 File: 992 KB, 500x399, m94n7kIE2M1qbwtj9.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1235870 >Anything that isn't the latest is retro Win7 is pretty retro now that you mention it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:57:59 2013 No.1235875 >>1235467 So in twenty years >1999 will still be the only things considered retro?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:57:59 2013 No.1235876 >>1235861 Your breaking the rules by discussing the GBA. Can i report your posts? Why are his any different? Just because you don't agree with him? Well many people don't agree with you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:58:29 2013 No.1235880 To all the people that don't want Gen 6 here: Why? Also I'm guessing the Mod is looking at this thread for ideas otherwise it would have been deleted already as many others are.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:58:59 2013 No.1235882 >>1235875 Ideally.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:59:29 2013 No.1235883 >>1235878 Nah but XP is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 17:59:59 2013 No.1235885 >>1235876 I'm not discussing the GBA, I'm discussing this board. Everyone in this thread is discussing this board. If I'm breaking the rules, then so are you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:00:29 2013 No.1235886 >>1235874 but but these guys all want the GBA. I want the wii then. it has emulators, thats retro..

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:01:30 2013 No.1235889 >>1235886 I get your point but you aren't saying WHY you don't want Gen 6.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:01:30 2013 No.1235894 >>1235886 If you talk about emulation on the Wii it's usually a'ok as long as you're talking about old vidya. If Wii things get brought up in threads about similar games, that's fine. Having threads dedicated to the Wii is completely unacceptable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:02:29 2013 No.1235895 >>1235880 Why not? About half the games from gen 6 are a decade old or more. How is that not retro at this point? >>1235886 You an discuss emulators on the Wii. No one is stopping you.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:02:29 2013 No.1235897

>>1235880
It's not retro you thick shit, retro games are literally fundamentally different from modern games, like holy shit why is this so hard for people to get? retro doesn't mean "games I like or games that are slightly old" and /vr/ isn't "/v/ except not shit", and I'm sorry you were mistakenly led to believe as such.

It's going to get to the point where we might at well rename /v/ to /vb/ for /b/ with a /v/ flavor, and /vr/ to /vns/ for "v- not shitty" and make a new board: /avr/ for "games that are actually retro"

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:04:29 2013 No.1235902
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>>1235889
Because i dont think Gen6 fits the board theme which is Retro.

Maybe its an age thing. I grew up with the Snes / N46 area and feel these fit the Retro theme better.

You grew up with the PS2 / Gamecube and feel these fit your ideals of the retro theme.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:05:59 2013 No.1235903 >>1235897 Retro = From the past Games have changed just as significantly between early 6th gen and 8th gen as they did between 5th and 7th. Just because you say it isn't retro doesn't make that true.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:06:29 2013 No.1235904 Nothing past 4th gen should be considered retro...

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:07:59 2013 No.1235905 >>1235902 This board is not catered to you and your definition of retro though. Since the beginning of the board, two gens ago=retro Why should that change right now to three gens ago=retro?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:08:29 2013 No.1235907 >>1235902 I grew up with a PS1, I just think that the games of 6th gen are far-removed enough from current trends for me to consider them retro.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:08:59 2013 No.1235909 >>1235905 >This board is not catered to you and your definition of retro though. Ditto.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:08:59 2013 No.1235910 >>1235902 >You grew up with the PS2 / Gamecube and feel these fit your ideals of the retro theme. Stop with the fucking assumptions. I'm not that guy, but I see no reason why gen 6 cannot be discussed, and I grew up with the Genesis and N64.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:10:59 2013 No.1235913 >>1235909 Yes, it's not catered to my definition of retro, and I never said it did, you fucking retard. The board rules themselves say that two gens ago=retro

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:11:59 2013 No.1235915 >>1235913 The rules say <2000

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:12:29 2013 No.1235918 >>1235910 I don't see why 5th gen can be discussed. That started the graphics = everything crap that goes on to this day. Hardly a "past trend."

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:13:29 2013 No.1235926

>>1235913
>>1235913
>This board is for the discussion of classic, or "retro" games. Retro gaming means consoles, computer games, arcade games (including pinball) and any other forms of video games on platforms launched in 1999 and earlier. With the release of the 8th generation of consoles, the Sega Dreamcast will now be considered "retro", though the remainder of the sixth generation (Xbox, PS2, GameCube) will not.

These are the rules. Don't like them? tough.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:15:29 2013 No.1235928 >>1235918 Graphics have always been a big deal. Don't be a fucking retard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:16:00 2013 No.1235931 POLL TIME: Consoles that you think are /vr/. http://www.easypolls.net /poll.html?p=529a7011e4b0c1853dff1ff9

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:16:29 2013 No.1235934 >>1235926 Why are you so against wanting to be able to discuss 6th gen games? Jesus christ, this board is becoming even worse than /v/

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:18:59 2013 No.1235939 >>1235934 because allowing 6th gen will make us the same as /v/.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:19:29 2013 No.1235945

>>1235934
Because

>>This board is for the discussion of classic, or "retro" games. Retro gaming means consoles, computer games, arcade games (including pinball) and any other forms of video games on platforms launched in 1999 and earlier. With the release of the 8th generation of consoles, the Sega Dreamcast will now be considered "retro", though the remainder of the sixth generation (Xbox, PS2, GameCube) will not.

>Jesus christ, this board is becoming even worse than /v/
You don't have to be here you know.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:19:59 2013 No.1235946 >>1235939 No it won't. 6th Gen is retro.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:19:59 2013 No.1235948 >>1235939 /v/ doesn't even discuss video games though It's just a bunch of fat idiots complaining about things I want to be able to come here and have reasonably alright discussion about games

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:20:29 2013 No.1235950 >>1235939 What makes /vr/ better than /v/ is just that it's slower. Nothing else. The subject matter is irrelevant.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:20:59 2013 No.1235951 >>1235948 >It's just a bunch of fat idiots complaining about things lel

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:21:29 2013 No.1235952

>>1235945
I know I don't have to be here, but where else can I go?

This is the /only/ board where I can have any sort of discussion about anything with few shitposters.

It would take very little effort to change the rules to allow 6th gen games, and all that would do is allow more discussion

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:22:29 2013 No.1235957 >>1235952 /vg/ Make a console specific general thread.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:22:29 2013 No.1235958

Any line drawn on what makes things "retro" is subjective and the word itself basically means, "being of or relating to things from the past". If the /vr/ rules were recently changed to include the Dreamcast and set the line to exclude systems released after 1999, then the rules should be changed to include the entirety of the 6th generation within the next two years.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:23:29 2013 No.1235959 >>1235952 >but where else can I go? /vg/

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:25:29 2013 No.1235965 >>1235957 >>1235959 And who's going to show up in my stupid thread? People don't go and browse /vg/ They stick to one or two generals that they like, and that's it

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:25:59 2013 No.1235968

>>1234075
>gba games are shovel ware shit
Wow, /v/ is shittier than I thought

polite sage for off-topic, but GBA and Gamecube are actually my favorite consoles of all time because they were the last consoles that didn't try to be everything at once
Meanwhile we can see that 90% of Xbox One ads are "IT DOES SKYPE, AND YOU CAN WATCH SPORTS, AND IT FEEDS YOU DORITOS, AND IT GIVES BLOWJOBS, AND YOU CAN USE YOUR VOICE TO CONTROL IT KINDA, AND IT ALWAYS HAS KINECT SPYING ON YOU, AND IT DOES BLU-RAY, AND PLEASE GIVE US MONEY."

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:26:29 2013 No.1235969 >>1235965 >People don't go and browse /vg/ So because you don't it means the board is dead. ok..

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:27:29 2013 No.1235971 File: 15 KB, 241x299, 1364164615226.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1235965 >People don't go and browse /vg/ Um what? I do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:27:59 2013 No.1235972 >>1235969 When did I say /vg/ was dead? People don't browse the main page, they stick to the generals they like.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:28:16 2013 No.1235978 >>1235972 >People don't browse the main page, they stick to the generals they like. Dont fucking speak for me. No i dont.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:28:46 2013 No.1235975 >>1235972 Who browses the main page of anything anymore? The catalog exists for a reason.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:29:16 2013 No.1235982 >>1235972 >People >i

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:29:46 2013 No.1235981 >>1234109 maybe as a temporary thing at best, there WILL be a time when those games are retro, and when that time comes /v2k/ will seem pointless

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:32:16 2013 No.1235989 You guys are fucking stupid, I don't understand why you don't want to be able to discuss GBA games. What's the point?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:34:47 2013 No.1235992 >>1235989 Because if we allow that everyone's going to want to be able to discuss everything else that came out then. Eventually, it'll be a slippery slope until it's everything except last gen, which is not retro.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:34:47 2013 No.1235993 >>1235989 >I don't understand why you don't want to be able to discuss GBA games. Thats not the point.. The point is GBA is not /vr/ You want to talk about GBA then go to /v/ or /vg/

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:35:16 2013 No.1235996 >>1235989 You guys are fucking stupid, I don't understand why you don't want to be able to discuss Wii games. What's the point? This is..

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:36:46 2013 No.1235997 >>1235996 Wii isn't retro. GBA is.

>>	/vr/ POLL Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:36:46 2013 No.1235998 >>1235931 forgot handhelds NEW POLL: what consoles/handhelds do you think are /vr/ material? >http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=529a7641e4b0c1853dff2008

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:37:16 2013 No.1236002 >>1235997 Not according to the rules.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:37:46 2013 No.1236001
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>>1235939
>because allowing 6th gen will make us the same as /v/.
>implying
/v/ is too busy shitposting about flavor of the month, feminism, barely vidya yt celebs, etc. to care about anything older than last gen. I'm not denying 6th gen discussions happen there, but you have to get pretty lucky and be there at the right place at the right time and who has the patience for that?

>>1235952
>I know I don't have to be here, but where else can I go?
http://plus4chan.org/
It's a start.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:39:16 2013 No.1236005 >>1235931 >that list I have come to the realization that /vr/ barely talks about most of these systems. When was the last time you heard anyone talk about something like the Super A'Can?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:40:46 2013 No.1236006 >>1236002 The point of this discussion is to question the rules though dummy. The people who want gen 6 have reasons. The people who don't are just citing the rules; that's not good enough.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:43:16 2013 No.1236016 >>1236002 Rules can be changed, faggot. That's the whole point of this thread You're like those people that cite the bible as proof of god's existence

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:43:47 2013 No.1236014 >>1236006 >>1236006 Maybe because they don't want Gen6. Maybe they don't think Gen6 is very /vr/. Is this enough for you? or are these opinions not good enough?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:45:46 2013 No.1236018 >>1236014 >Is this enough for you? No

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:46:16 2013 No.1236020 >>1236001 >Latest post in the vidya section is 5 hours ago No thanks

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:47:16 2013 No.1236023 >>1236018 Well tough. The rules side with my opinion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:48:46 2013 No.1236026 >>1236023 This thread is about how we think the rules should be changed though They have no place in this discussion We /know/ that the rules say those aren't retro

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:48:46 2013 No.1236027 File: 32 KB, 483x427, 1383091096239.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1236020 Got anymore complaints?

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:49:46 2013 No.1236029

>>1235992
>everyone's going to want to be able to discuss everything else that came out then.
So let them. 6th gen is old enough to be considered retro. I don't see any issue with this. It's certainly a better solution than just the Dreamcast being allowed, especially since the Dreamcast still has the odd game made for it. Gunlord released in 2012 is allowed on /vr/. Sturmwind released this year is allowed on /vr/. Metroid Fusion released in 2002 is not allowed on /vr/. It's dumb.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:51:17 2013 No.1236035 >>1236014 >Maybe they don't think Gen6 is very /vr/. So why is the Dreamcast allowed then? The rules as they are make no fucking sense. A change is needed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:51:46 2013 No.1236034 >>1236026 I don't think these should be changed. Im very happy with the current rules.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:52:16 2013 No.1236037 >>1236035 Well technically the dreamcast fits because <2000

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:52:17 2013 No.1236036
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>>1236020
With that fucking attitude, the threads will be even slower. I've been coming to 4chan less and less nowadays anyway. It's slower but the quality of discussions are better than most boards here imo. at least give it a chance, it's not like the anti-6th gen asshats here are gonna budge anytime soon. 4chan may be faster, but at what cost? Constant shitposting and some rather inane rules in place? It gets tiresome after a while.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:53:16 2013 No.1236039 >>1236034 There you go, that's a much better answer Now why are you content with the rules?

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:53:16 2013 No.1236040

>>1236006
I don't want 6th gen because games are still being sold for it at retail.
I can go down to my local walmart, and find PS2 games on the shelves, hell I even saw a tiger woods game for the gamecube a few months ago.
I view the 360 is a continuation of the xbox, since it's backwards compatible and the games really dont seem all that different from one console to another.
The PS2 has only within the last few months gone out of production as a system, its still getting new games.
The Wii and Gamecube are practically the exact same system.

If the GBA was released before the PS2, I'd say its ok. but it wasnt, and allowing it would make us skip over the ps2. If we put a gap in the consoles allowed, then people are going to argue about filling in the gap, and there is no way in hell the PS2 is retro.

the dreamcast is allowed because
A. it was released on or before 1999
B. the last game released in the US was NHL 2K2, in 2002

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:53:46 2013 No.1236038

>>1236029
>Gunlord released in 2012 is allowed on /vr/
>Sturmwind released this year is allowed on /vr/
Because it's on a platform released before 1999.
>Metroid Fusion released in 2002 is not allowed on /vr/.
Because it's released on a platform released after 1999.

Yeah, I think it's dumb too. Why put the date on if you can discuss games that are made much later. It doesn't work for PC, so why do consoles get special treatment?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:55:16 2013 No.1236042 >>1236036 Fuck, you're right, but I don't want to wait forever for a response that may or may not come

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:55:16 2013 No.1236043 >>1236040 >The Wii and Gamecube are practically the exact same system. Would you stop? No, they aren't.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:55:46 2013 No.1236047 >>1236043 Not him tho they kinda are.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:56:46 2013 No.1236048 >>1236029 >citing homebrew games as new releases stop.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:56:46 2013 No.1236049 >>1236042 This is the price you have to pay for higher quality posts, I'm afraid.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:56:46 2013 No.1236050

>>1236035
It was on the edge; the console was released at the end of 1999, so it fit in with the year rule, but it was technically a sixth generation console and wasn't allowed because the mods knew that if it were put in, people would throw a shitfit about not allowing the rest of the 6th gen in even though they were outside of the year border. When the current gen dropped the dreamcast was allowed in to alleviate bitching about dreamcast, at the risk of inciting more bitching about the rest of the 6th generation. which has happened.

dreamcast was always within the earler-than-2000 limit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:56:46 2013 No.1236051 >>1236047 >>>/v/ circa 2007

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:57:47 2013 No.1236053 File: 11 KB, 350x240, CubeVsWii.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1236043 Very close.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:57:47 2013 No.1236054

>>1236040
>I can go down to my local walmart, and find PS2 games on the shelves, hell I even saw a tiger woods game for the gamecube a few months ago.
I still see PS1 games in my local game shop, it doesn't mean it's not retro.

>I view the 360 is a continuation of the xbox, since it's backwards compatible and the games really dont seem all that different from one console to another.
Is the PS2 not a continuation of the PS1? What does that even mean?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:57:47 2013 No.1236056 >>1236043 >No, they aren't. Yes, they are.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 18:59:46 2013 No.1236059 >>1236047 But how? The games made for the Wii had motion control in mind. >>1236056 High QUALITY post. Why don't you explain why?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:00:46 2013 No.1236062 >>1236050 The PS2 came out two months and four days after the cut-off date. The exclusion is retarded. >>1236048 There's still legit games released on the system as late as 2007. It's stupid no matter how you slice it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:01:46 2013 No.1236065 >>1236062 And DC came out in 98. What's the problem?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:03:46 2013 No.1236068 >>1236059 Talking about specs and hardware sweetie

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:03:46 2013 No.1236069

>>1236054
>I still see PS1 games in my local game shop, it doesn't mean it's not retro.
I didn't say local game shop, I said walmart.

>Is the PS2 not a continuation of the PS1? What does that even mean?
as in the systems technologically were very similar. so in my mind, the 360 was just an updated version of the xbox, as opposed to a new console.
the PS2 is different from the PS1, because backwards compatibility is done through emulation, not similar hardware. The PS1 was CD based, and the PS2 was DVD based, along with several other hardware differences. thus, different systems.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:04:04 2013 No.1236071 >>1236065 The problem is it don't make any sense. You can turn a blind eye to the issues, but the issues still exist. What would be the problem with allowing all of 6th gen? Please explain it to me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:04:04 2013 No.1236073 >>1236068 Then you should have said that from the beginning, you idiot. I wouldn't have any basis to argue it then.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:04:35 2013 No.1236070 >>1236069 But the 360 has to emulate xbox games too.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:06:04 2013 No.1236078

>>1236069
>the PS2 is different from the PS1, because backwards compatibility is done through emulation, not similar hardware.

...No, the PSX support on the PS2 is all hardware based. Hell, the PS2 has the PSX CPU specifically for the backwards compatibility. The Xbox 360 is the one that emulated the Xbox. Poorly. It was optimized for Halo 1 and 2 and absolutely nothing else. Have you played an Xbox game on the 360 before? Every single game but the two Halos have problems. Some more apparent than others (Like JSRF and Shenmue II's constant slowdown), and a good percentage of the library isn't even supported.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:06:04 2013 No.1236080 >>1236071 >What would be the problem with allowing all of 6th gen? The real reason? Bringing in more children, mentally or literally, to /vr/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:07:04 2013 No.1236084 >>1236083 >sweetie >>>/cgl/

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:07:35 2013 No.1236082

>>1236062
>There's still legit games released on the system as late as 2007.
Are you Japanese? Cause this is an American website, and we go by American rules.
You can take your foreignese and sissy girly cartoons back to ching chong land. Go diddle your togo somewhere else.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:07:35 2013 No.1236083 >>1236073 >Then you should have said that from the beginning, you idiot. Not him sweetie. It was pretty obvious mind. Im surprised i had to explain it to be honest.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:09:04 2013 No.1236087 File: 12 KB, 354x337, 1375769197869.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1236082 >Cause this is an American website, and we go by American rules

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:09:34 2013 No.1236086 >>1236084 Nice retort

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:10:04 2013 No.1236092 >>1236086 why are you talking like a passive aggressive bitch?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:11:05 2013 No.1236094 >>1236092 Why are you so angry and upset sweetie?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:13:19 2013 No.1236098 File: 17 KB, 482x320, 1377972379936.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] True retro games were made before the video game crash in 86.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:14:19 2013 No.1236102 >>1236098 Whoops, I meant 83.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:14:49 2013 No.1236101 >>1234121 its not retro because its from 2004 from your argument i could say VVVVVV or any other indie game is retro as well

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:15:19 2013 No.1236104 >>1236101 meant 2001*

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:16:20 2013 No.1236108 how about we have some real discussions on GBC games, and then when we've run out of those, we can let GBA in?

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:23:19 2013 No.1236120

>>1235905
>This board is not catered to you and your definition of retro though.

Retro doesnt have a clear definition.

So what you really mean is this board DOES cater to your meaning of retro and you dont want people changing that.

God forbid people have a place to discuss Megaman Battle Network or some shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:27:19 2013 No.1236132 >>1236098 >2013 >still using the term "video game crash" >YFW when "video games" never crashed.

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:28:19 2013 No.1236135
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As much as I would love to talk about the 6th gen on /vr/, the people in this thread who are so insistent on talking about it make me NOT want to talk about it at all. I'm hardly seeing any constructive discussion about whether the rest of 6th gen should be allowed or not, just a lot of whining. If Dreamcast is allowed now, it means the rest of 6th gen will be allowed soon enough. Be patient, please.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:31:49 2013 No.1236140 >>1236132 >"video games" never crashed Then what was the recession in the industry?

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:32:50 2013 No.1236142
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To all of the people arguing in favor of sixth gen being allowed here..let's just stop, it's not worth it anymore. I'm with you guys all the way, but the anti-6th gen autists aren't gonna change and even then we're at the whim of the mods on what's allowed here. see>>1236036 >>1236001

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:40:49 2013 No.1236158

>>1236142
If you really want to talk about 6th gen that badly, then message moot. Tell him that there is interest in a v2k board.
He's stated seveal times that he does actually go through and read all his e-mailes, so its not like it'll sit in his inbox for 6 months and then get deleted.

If we let 6th gen on /vr/, then there's a chance that the lesser known retro systems won't ever get discussed, we allready have this issue, and allowing more consoles will only make things worse.
When was the last time you saw a thread for the Halcyon, or the Laseractive, or even the intellivion?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:45:19 2013 No.1236161 Don't see how GBA isn't retro 90% of its library is literally NES and SNES ports

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 19:48:19 2013 No.1236171 >>1236161 >90% of its library is literally NES and SNES ports Dude, I think you're exaggerating. I don't think anyone minds if you talk about a port of retro games anyways.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 21:22:11 2013 No.1236360 >>1236140 He's right actually. It was a shift in the market was all. But "video games" on the whole never crashed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 21:32:11 2013 No.1236387 >>1234219 It was pretty awful didn't stop me from completing it though [/spolier]

Anonymous Sat Nov 30 21:57:29 2013 No.1236467
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What is your definition of what makes game retro? The 1st and 2nd generation are the only generations that don't bleed into the 2000's so I find those retro as opposed to the rest. There is no way the rules will change to that, but I want to know what everyone thinks what retro means, since there is no clear definition.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 22:24:29 2013 No.1236540 The last GBA game came out in 2008. It's not going to be considered retro for at least another generation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 30 22:27:59 2013 No.1236551 >>1236540 >last X came out in Y Oy, stop this. consoles frequently release games long after people have moved on to the new systems. I'm not taking a side here, but this is a poor argument.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 00:27:54 2013 No.1236851 File: 62 KB, 578x455, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >GBA is basically a portable SNES >release a NES version

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 00:36:54 2013 No.1236872 File: 31 KB, 598x346, wolfnigger.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1235875 no, you just need a 10 year gap to move it up, in 2220, 2010 will be retro

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 00:41:54 2013 No.1236889 >>1234075 >GBA >released 2001 Not retro

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 00:54:54 2013 No.1236918 >>1236889 >2003 was ten years ago Why can't 2001 be retro?

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 01:09:11 2013 No.1236950
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>mfw 99% of thread is people arguing over whether GBA is retro or not

>over 200 replies

We might as well just have had a decent GBA thread guys. Why is it so damn important whether or not it is retro?

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 01:28:11 2013 No.1236994

>>1236467

The first thing that pops to mind when hearing "Retro" for me is anything pre-NES, anything else just feels arbitrary.

>>1236142
>>1236036

I don't feel strongly one way or the other, but it's hilarious that you're trying to act better than the antis when you're in the same shitfilled, whiny boat.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 01:52:11 2013 No.1237050 >>1236950 >Why is it so damn important whether or not it is retro? Uh, because this is the retro video games board? Come on, man.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 02:14:41 2013 No.1237104 On all the other forums I visit people consider Retro to be anything 2 generations behind. Right now a lot of the 6th gen consoles have started to pick up in active discussion. So why is /vr/ different?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 02:20:41 2013 No.1237114 >>1237050 That's not meant to be taken literally, autist.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 02:21:41 2013 No.1237116 >1234567

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 02:22:12 2013 No.1237120 >>1237116 I mean >>1234567

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 02:24:11 2013 No.1237128 >>1237104 >2 generations behind So PS2 is retro now? What the fuck are you literally 10 yrs old?

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 03:36:48 2013 No.1237262

>>1237114
Are you not good with reading comprehension? If GBA isn't considered retro here, you can't talk about it here. That's just how it is. If you think it should be retro, feel free to explain why. The mods are probably looking at this thread since the PS2 thread got deleted but this hasn't.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 03:36:48 2013 No.1237263 File: 75 KB, 256x331, Halobox.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1236918 >Why can't 2001 be retro?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 03:42:18 2013 No.1237278 >>1237263 >1st modern fps >not retro

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 03:42:48 2013 No.1237279 If all of 6th gen were to be allowed, then there would need to be a new cut off date for allowed games. At least a decade or so. How does that sound?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 03:43:48 2013 No.1237282 >>1237279 If you aren't old enough to drink your opinion is irrelevant kiddo

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 03:47:48 2013 No.1237293 >>1237282 Ok, so it is relevant. Do you think all of 6th gen shouldn't be allowed then?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 03:51:18 2013 No.1237296 >>1237293 No. No game or console after 1999 should be allowed on here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 03:52:18 2013 No.1237302 >>1237296 this, shoot anyone who utters the words 6th gen

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 03:56:48 2013 No.1237306 >>1237296 >>1237302 I kind of agree. How long would it take for the rest to be actually retro?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 03:58:48 2013 No.1237312 >>1234217 I agree.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 03:59:18 2013 No.1237315 >>1237306 Maybe 5-10 years?

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 04:10:18 2013 No.1237336

>>1237315
By then a lot of games will be around 15 years old, so I see how that would fit in with other's definition of retro.

6th gen is weird. Plenty of games are already a decade old, but something about it doesn't feel like it's old enough to be retro. Then again, I also feel that way about most of 5th gen. The way the rules are now fit well. The Dreamcast was released on or before 1999. Maybe it would be best to stick to dates rather than worrying about generations.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 04:12:48 2013 No.1237339 >>1237336 >something about it doesn't feel like it's old enough to be retro Because game companies have been rehashing the same game for the last 10 years

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 04:34:18 2013 No.1237384 >>1237263 people who played this as kids are old enough to post here.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 11:01:47 2013 No.1237996
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>oh man if we let the GBA in, then we have to let all the other 6th gens in too!

Guys, it's so fucking simple..

You can let these in /vr/: Dreamcast, N-gage, Neo Geo Pocket Color, and GBA since they are more retro.

While the other 6th gen consoles/portables (PS2, Gamecube, Xbox, etc) stay out for another 2 gens since they are more modern.

Goddammit

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 11:14:47 2013 No.1238027

We should just change the name from '/vr/ - retro games' to 'the /va/ult' or some shit, simply focusing around classic games on dead hardware that have been memorialized for their importance to the evolution of game design and culture. It feels stupid and forced to have a tangible definition and cut-off to what can be discussed. Let's just make it about old games that have been left behind, no specific generation or year.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 11:28:05 2013 No.1238051 >>1238027 this nigga here has it perfect

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 11:34:05 2013 No.1238063 >>1238027 Heed his words, for he is a wise man ! Seriously, /va/ult is the awesomest idea ever.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 11:36:35 2013 No.1238065 >>1238027 Sweet i could talk about my Wii games. WiiU counts too right? >simply focusing around classic games on dead hardware

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 11:36:35 2013 No.1238067 >>1238051 >>1238063 Stop replying to yourself. This is pathetic. That idea is fucking dumb. If you want to discuss video games from any era go to v or vg. vr is for retro games, that is to say game from before 1999.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 11:47:05 2013 No.1238090
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>>1238067
>Oh gosh i'm samefagging on a retrospective board in a retrospective thread

fuck off, you should look at pic related to see how dumb you are and see the previous posts to see how un-pitying you are

>>1237996
>>1238027
>>1236142
>>1236135
>>1235965
>>1236001
>>1235934
>>1235463
>>1235313

>>	slayer Sun Dec 1 11:50:35 2013 No.1238095 >>1238090 Stop being such a whiny little bitch. Why does 4chan have to pander to you? There already is a board for 6th gen. It's called /v/. If you don't like it, go post on some other site. I won't miss you.

the anti-weapon Sun Dec 1 12:07:38 2013 No.1238129

>>1238095
>go to /v/
they are too focused on new shit, new consoles, shitposting, and flavor of the months, plus it's full of outsiders.

>go to /vg/
they are not interested, (same goes for forums website)

>go to another website

what website, there isn't any good website or board as good as this one?
Reddit has the shittiest arguments
Youtube is full of parasitic toddlers
NeoGAF is full of sony fanboys
Facebook is full shit
Twitter is full of american problems
7chan is /vg/+old /b/
plus4chan is lacking many things

>I won't miss you
Who cares?

Why are you making things hard for us?!

zenith !8gy15QWyQU Sun Dec 1 12:15:08 2013 No.1238141
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guys, give it up, they recently gave me a warning for posting a GBA related post

let's just get out and stay away from here and wait another two to five years

I'll make a GBA thread on /vg/ and /v/ since "they" handle it better.

you /vr/etro, quality, nostalgia-fags can go back to your cages while we talk about more state-of-the-art shit without the whining.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 12:17:08 2013 No.1238143 >>1238141 You should've gotten a public ban to serve as a lesson to the rest of these shit posters.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 12:21:38 2013 No.1238150 >>1238129 right in the feel. Also, for Neogaf, you forgot the part where it's full of fedora tipper.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 12:22:08 2013 No.1238153 >>1238141 Good riddance

>>	zenith !8gy15QWyQU Sun Dec 1 12:31:26 2013 No.1238167 >>1238153 >>>/v/220700238 >>>/vg/54223161 >>1238143 >>1238153 >>1238067 >>1238095 Go to biblical Hades

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 12:33:55 2013 No.1238170 >>1238167 And why don't you go to reddit. As you can see from the intense shit that you have flung around in this thread, we clearly don't want your kind here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 12:35:25 2013 No.1238171 >>1238167 >>220701140 >>220701140 >>220701140 >>220701140 >>220701140 >>220701140

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 12:35:55 2013 No.1238173 Whoa. /va/ult dude here. Just posted that and walked away til now. Didn't mean to cause a shit storm, it was just an idea.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 12:45:25 2013 No.1238179 >>1238170 >go to Reddit trying to recuit people aren't ya?

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 12:50:25 2013 No.1238184

>>1234535
I'd just give it time. The new consoles literally came out a few weeks ago. They did the Dreamcast thing cuz that rule was already pretty shakey since the console had released in '98/'99.

I'm sure later down the line, when the 8th generation has kinda settled down since release, the 6th generation will be discussable on this board.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 12:53:25 2013 No.1238187 >>1235870 The Wii came out in 2006 man.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 13:05:55 2013 No.1238204 >>1237128 I wouldn't necessarily call it Retro, but there has been a surge of discussion about the console ranging from Homebrew to hidden gems, all stuff you would find in a Retro-gaming community.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 13:06:26 2013 No.1238205 File: 45 KB, 300x321, 1385878097370.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >nostalgia-fags not wanting to change >This whole thread It's all of Reddit's doing

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 13:08:25 2013 No.1238209 >>1238205 It's because most of the people on this board are 18-25 year olds and only the consoles they grew up with are considered Retro. Once all the kids form 1995+ grow up a bit I'm sure we'll see a spike in discussion about the 6th gen consoles.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 13:08:25 2013 No.1238210 >>1238204 People talk about the PS4 and XB One, that doesn't make them retro.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 13:11:56 2013 No.1238214 >>1238210 Read my last point. You don't see people talking about the "hidden gems" of the XB1 or the "collecting" scene of the PS4.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 13:13:55 2013 No.1238220 >>1238214 >http://me.ign.com/en/feature/13233/why-knack-is-the-ps4-s-hidden-gem >http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/691087-playstation-4/67843617

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 13:18:25 2013 No.1238225

When it comes to the point where its been 20 years since 6th gen started, I think thats when it'll be time to allow for its discussion in this board.

Also, I feel /vr/ should be changed from "retro games" to "classic games". atm, the title and rules dont exactly make sense with eachother.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 13:19:25 2013 No.1238226 >>1238220 not him, but they are not using that term properly at all.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 13:21:25 2013 No.1238229

>>1238205
It's the gen bullshit that's messing it all up. Cutoff date made sense, but no Dreamcast because "muh tiers and console generations." Now they've allowed what should have been retro to begin with and we're stuck with feel-people wanting more and opposing people saying "it just doesn't play like my retro".

Generations are retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 13:21:55 2013 No.1238228 >>1238225 >20 years So the N64. PS1, and Saturn should be banned from the board right now?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 13:25:25 2013 No.1238235 >>1238228 i meant roughly 20 years, not exactly. 5th gen started in 1993 which is 18 years ago.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 13:27:28 2013 No.1238239 >>1238228 5th gen started 20 years ago, though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 13:33:28 2013 No.1238256 >>1238239 This. People seem to forget that the 3DO and Atari Jaguar began the 5th generation in late 1993.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 15:28:34 2013 No.1238493 >>1238256 They are gen 4? consoles. Just like the DC is gen 5?

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 16:26:34 2013 No.1238667
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>>1238141
I was with you until
>you /vr/etro, quality, nostalgia-fags can go back to your cages while we talk about more state-of-the-art shit without the whining.
It's already bad enough the anti-6th gen anons are lumping people like me in with your faggotry. Your whining is only proving their point.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 17:36:58 2013 No.1238931

>>1235998
>more than 50 choices

This is more complicated than it needs to be and I have a feeling it's going to cause some kind of skew in the polls by people not finding consoles or thinking a console came out earlier/later than it did and voting on it.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 17:43:58 2013 No.1238963
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Can I just cite that the Dreamcast was allowed at the founding of /vr/ when it just had the 20th century rule, and that it was later banned by the bitching of "but it's 6th Gen!" faggots? For a while, the rules were specifically "anything from before 2000 except the Dreamcast."

By adding it, we're going back to the original rule of anything being allowed from the 20th century. The "only Dreamcast is allowed in the 6th Gen" was only added specifically to prevent this kind of threads.

tl;dr: It's not so much that the Dreamcast has been added, but that it's been RE-added. Despite the change in wording, it's effectively the same as when the board was founded.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 17:56:12 2013 No.1239012

I GBA games are pretty good, I really think it deserves an exception to be discussed in /vr/, personally I think it deserves more than Dreamcast.

I just found my GBA SP couple of days ago with my original copy of Sonic Battle, OP. Fucking great game. I'm now in the process of getting other games I like (Fire Emblem, Advance Wars, Zelda, Megaman Battle Network, etc). Good times.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 18:01:12 2013 No.1239024 GBA is great but it belongs on /v/. That's just how it is.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 18:22:11 2013 No.1239081

>>1239012
I agree that the GBA was a good system, but I don't think being a good system decides whether it should be allowed. It's the release date that determines what is and isn't allowed.

Though, now I have to ask, is the Wonderswan allowed now? It was technically 6th Gen, but it was released in 1999, putting it in the same boat as the Dreamcast.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 18:35:40 2013 No.1239113 >>1239081 >Wonderswan No. Read the rules. It clearly says "the Sega Dreamcast will now be considered "retro", though the remainder of the sixth generation (Xbox, PS2, GameCube) will not." So if it's 6th gen and not Dreamcast then it's not allowed.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 18:40:11 2013 No.1239131

>>1239113
Well yes, that's the current rules, but Wonderswan fits the exact same criteria as Dreamcast in terms of generation and year, which is why I was wondering. It would take a quick clarification to determine whether Wonderswan is allowed, because by all logic it fits as the same kind of "borderline" console like the Dreamcast.

I don't understand why the mods didn't just say "all consoles from 1999 and earlier." By mentioning 6th Gen, it only encourages people to bitch about the GBA/PS2/XBox/GC.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 18:44:40 2013 No.1239150 >>1239131 Because the mods obviously want to exclude consoles like Wonderswan. They know what they're doing don't question them.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 18:47:10 2013 No.1239161

>>1239150
But the Wonderswan is of a different criteria than the GBA.

I'm asking because unlike the GBA the Wonderswan is obscure enough that it wouldn't immediately come into thought with the 6th Gen.

It gets more confusing in Wikipedia describing it as a 5th Gen console, yet I've heard other ma/vr/icks describe it as 6th Gen, making the line even more muddled than the Dreamcast.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 18:52:40 2013 No.1239178 Well OP, you wanted to talk about /v/ and you fucking got it. autism thread

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 18:52:40 2013 No.1239179

>>1239161
If it's that much on the border, I would not even post about it. It's not worth the risk of polluting /vr/ with off topic posts. Plus not to mention the risk that the post will just degrade into people saying you broke the rules.

Also just because it's obscure doesn't mean it's retro.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 18:57:40 2013 No.1239196
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>>1239179
I... I'm starting to get the feeling I'm being trolled...

By more borderline, I mean it's closer to the 5th Gen border than the Dreamcast. People near-universally describe the Dreamcast as being 6th Gen, but I've heard people go both ways with the Wonderswan.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 18:58:11 2013 No.1239202 >>1236036 I've just given up on talking about anything but PS4 and Xbone on /v/. You're right in that there's pretty much nothing left in that board.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 19:05:40 2013 No.1239223

>>1239196
shut the fuck up you whiny little bitch. you should be grateful for posting on vr at all and why do you even want to post about something that is that close to being against the rules anyway? That's not even the point of this board. It's like if a history board allowed discussions from 1900 through 1999 and you always like to post about 1999, and then now you're saying "Can I post about January 1 of 2000, that's practicaly the same as december 31 1999."

It's not in the spirit of the board. shut the fuck up and stop bitching about the goddamn wondersawn already fuck

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 19:09:40 2013 No.1239240 >>1239223 Except it isn't on 2000, it was released in 1999 just like the Dreamcast.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 19:10:10 2013 No.1239248 >>1239240 OK I'm legitamately getting pissed at you now. That was a metaphor. I wasn't literally talking about that exact date but using it as an analogy for something that was borderline

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 19:14:40 2013 No.1239263 >>1239248 But it isn't a slippery slope case, it was released six months before the Dreamcast and barred for the exact reason the Dreamcast was.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 19:19:40 2013 No.1239281 >>1239263 Well Its not allowed ad it never will be allowed so just shut up about it

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 19:21:40 2013 No.1239283 File: 207 KB, 1000x600, 20.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1239281 Oh, so I guess I am being trolled then. My apolgies, /vr/, for being rused this far.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 19:30:40 2013 No.1239306

>>1238229
>Generations are retarded
This

Generations are fine for aspie academics who need everything neatly categorized to publish papers such as "The effects of the console wars on women and minorities" and "How gang violence can be reduced by replacing boss battles with participation ribbons in video games" but mostly useless for discussion.

The logical way would be based on the first release. Also that should be first release wherever it was. I never owned many US consoles because I always got the Japanese version a year or two earlier.

Hopefully now that the evil Dreamcast is considered retro we can do away with this silly generation rule and go by date. 15 years is a good number. If if they want to make it 15 years minus 5 days like they did for the Dreamcast just to keep it a bit convoluted that's fine to.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 19:35:40 2013 No.1239320

>>1239306
While I'm not really supportive of the GBA becoming retro, I can agree to this. In 2015, any 2000 consoles become allowed to be discussed, in 2016 any 2001 consoles, etc.

2014 obviously doesn't have any change since 1999 consoles are already allowed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 19:39:10 2013 No.1239329 Retro games are games released in obsolete systems that got abandoned by companies, players and time. So the GBA should definitely be allowed here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 19:44:40 2013 No.1239348 >>1239320 No. /vr/ should never allow systems later than 2000. If there's demand for that it should be on a separate board, maybe /vm/ for midrange agfe video games.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 19:46:10 2013 No.1239356 >>1239320 Absolutely not. At that point, it'd just be /v/.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 19:47:10 2013 No.1239360 >>1239348 >/vr/ should never allow systems later than 2000. By this silly logic, if 4chan is around in 2070, you wouldn't be able to talk about 50+ year old games

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 19:47:10 2013 No.1239362 >>1239348 >Year 2050 >Angry old Anon is still here >GET OFF MY LAWN WITH YOUR DAMN PS3 GAMES, YOU DAMNED KIDS, IT'S NOT A RETRO SYSTEM!!! And that's why that's stupid.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 19:47:40 2013 No.1239358 >>1239348 Why not? While I'm not against a /v2k/ board, if we don't have one of those, why not -eventually- add later systems? Right now is not the time, but two years from now why not add the GBA? The 3DS will probably be on its last legs by then.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 19:49:40 2013 No.1239368 >>1239362 >>1239360 By 2070 there will be a new board to talk about more modern games, like I said in my post. Call it /vr2/ or something.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 19:50:10 2013 No.1239371 >>1239368 >By 2070 there will be a new board to talk about more modern games my dad works at 4chan

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 19:51:10 2013 No.1239372 >>1239358 If you add GBA and all these other systems /vr/ will turn into /v/. Keep /vr/ like /vr/ so keep it the way it is, allow nothing past 2000.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 19:52:10 2013 No.1239381 >>1239368 That's even more stupid. Retro games are retro because most people don't care about them anymore. Just like what happens with the GBA.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 19:53:10 2013 No.1239382

>>1239368
I don't think that's set in stone. Has moot ever said anything about making a second /vr/-esque board for the '00s?

And if so, would that mean /vr/ would get split into two boards for the '80s and '90s?

>>1239372
I don't see how it would turn into /v/. If it's that big a problem, just ban Halo threads. Again, this isn't right now, this is several years from now I'm theorizing about.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 19:53:10 2013 No.1239383 >>1239372 >If you add GBA and all these other systems /vr/ will turn into /v/. I don't think GBA needs to come here now, but how do you figure?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 19:54:10 2013 No.1239386 >>1239372 See: >>1239362 >>1239381

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 19:56:10 2013 No.1239392 >>1239383 Just look how shitty every GBA thread on /vr/ is. Just look how shitty this one is. Just look how shitty your post is and mine is.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 19:59:10 2013 No.1239398

>>1239392
>every GBA thread on /vr/
Which ones?
This thread is shitty because it is meta, not because of the GBA. Stop being obtuse, allow GBA games here and you'll see quality threads of people that played GBA when they were more little and they love the games to this day.

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Anonymous Sun Dec 1 19:59:40 2013 No.1239396

>>1239392
>Just look how shitty every GBA thread on /vr/ is

That's not really good reasoning considering this is a metathread. It doesn't say much for what actual GBA discussion would be.

And again, I don't think GBA or the rest of the 6th gen needs to come around here right now, but we need to keep an open mind, because times change. Remember, there was a point at which some of the things this board loves to discuss (NES, SNES, etc) that would not have been considered retro at one point. I don't know when the best time to let these subjects on /vr/ is, but to say that they should never be allowed is a bit silly and premature.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:13:55 2013 No.1239578 >>1239356 >>1239348 >>1239372 see: >>1237996 , >>1238027 , and >>1235313 you blind fucks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:22:55 2013 No.1239596 >>1239578 But those 3 posts are wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:29:55 2013 No.1239608 >>>/vg/

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:32:26 2013 No.1239617 >>1239596 >still ignorant or not understanding you're an equivalent to a liberal atheist or a non-biblical christian >>1239608 try making one yourself and see what happened, they wanted mines deleted.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:36:55 2013 No.1239629 >>1239617 >>>/v/

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:38:25 2013 No.1239632 >>1239629 /v/ doesn't talk about retro games. That's why this board exists.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:38:55 2013 No.1239635 >>1239632 GBA isn't retro

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:39:25 2013 No.1239638 >>1239635 It is.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:40:55 2013 No.1239639 >>1239635 I don't think GBA needs to come over here now. That being said, this is a piss poor argument. What constitutes "retro" is arbitrary and not something set in stone.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:41:25 2013 No.1239640 >>1239632 GBA isn't retro.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:41:55 2013 No.1239643 >>1239640 See: >>1239638

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:42:25 2013 No.1239645 >>1239638 Did you just, like, ignore this whole fucking thread?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:44:25 2013 No.1239652 File: 74 KB, 600x600, 154266732135.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >these GBA people are going to get the Dreamcast removed again

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:45:26 2013 No.1239654 ITT: autism

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:47:25 2013 No.1239660 >>1234109 i like my trumpet music only thing i disliked was the game felt too short some of the bonus content in emerald made it better though

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:47:55 2013 No.1239662 >>1239652 I find it funny how the Dreamcast is allowed while the GBA isn't, even thought the former is both a way more advanced system and a lot more popular nowadays. It doesn't make sense.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:48:55 2013 No.1239663 >>1239652 Why would that happen >>1239662 DC is a weird case. It's pre 2000 and died before the sixth gen even really took off.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:53:58 2013 No.1239674 >>1239639 retro is anything from 1999 and earlier that's not 6th gen (except the dreamcast)

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:55:28 2013 No.1239679 >>1239663 No, it didn't. All the other systems were out at the time and it got plenty of games. And nowadays it's a lot more popular than the GBA, which faded into obscurity.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:55:28 2013 No.1239681

>>1239662
It's not about how advanced each system is (and the GBA is a fucking handheld, man, do you really expect it to compare to a console?), it's the release date that matters. The N64 is more powerful than the GBA, but that didn't warrant the GBA being added before the Dreamcast was re-added.

Yes, I know that isn't the literal definition of retro, but console release date determines the board's definition of retro.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:56:58 2013 No.1239683 >>1239674 Man, did you even bother to read my post?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:57:29 2013 No.1239684 >>1239392 You now realize posts like these would flood GBA threads. It's just not time yet. I would rather wait a couple years for quality discussion than to talk about GBA now and have shitposting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:57:29 2013 No.1239685 >>1239679 >GBA >faded into obscurity are you fucking kidding me

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:57:58 2013 No.1239686 >>1239679 >the GBA faded into obscurity >the GBA is more obscure than the Dreamcast You're joking, right? Right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:59:28 2013 No.1239693 >>1239683 Did you even bother to read the sticky?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 21:59:28 2013 No.1239695 File: 49 KB, 960x758, 1003957_10151686967824588_1248640571_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Well, there's always this thing

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:00:28 2013 No.1239697 >>1239662 It came out in 1998. It's not that hard to figure out why that is allowed but everything else from the 6th generation isn't. >>1239679 >GBA >faded into obscurity You have got to be kidding me. You don't know what obscure means, do you?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:00:58 2013 No.1239698 GBA has a lot of GB/NES/SNES ports and remakes on it, so you can probably talk about those Nightmare in Dreamland is one of my favorite GBA games and I didn't even know it was an NES game until years later

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:01:29 2013 No.1239702 >>1238493 Nope, they are Gen 5. And DC is Gen 6.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:02:29 2013 No.1239703 >>1239685 Nobody outside of here remembers it. The DS got it off the map. >>1239686 Sega fanboys are a lot more vocal, and most of the DC games got ported to other systems. >>1239693 The sticky doesn't even mention the GBA.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:03:28 2013 No.1239708

>>1239693

So you didn't read my post. Don't bother responding to people if you aren't going to read.

First off, the cutoff date for what we get to discuss here IS arbitrary. No two ways about it. It's a date picked somewhat at random while other dates could have been picked. Why is it 1999? Why not 1994?

Second off, I said that it wasn't set in stone. Which is true, given the fact that those rules have been amended about three time since the board came along.

Honestly, read posts before responding next time, instead of posting knee-jerk reactions.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:04:28 2013 No.1239712
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>>1239702
I think he means it's really close to the border.

>>1239703
>Sega fanboys are a lot more vocal

Are you that guy from a couple months ago who tried to get Sega banned from /vr/ and have all of their consoles and games put in a single General thread?

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:05:29 2013 No.1239715

>>1239662
>I find it funny how the Dreamcast is allowed while the GBA isn't

The Dreamcast was released before 2000. The GBA was released after 2000. Do the math.

You can bitch and moan all you want about how close to 2000 either console was released, but the line has been drawn. If you wish for that line to be re-drawn, try e-mailing moot because whining about it here will get you nowhere.

>even thought the former is both a way more advanced system

The former is a home console and the latter is a handheld. No fucking shit the Dreamcast is going to be more advanced than the GBA! By your logic, does the N64 not qualify as retro for being far more able to handle 3D gaming?

>and a lot more popular nowadays

That's because retrogaming is hip and chic these days, and the Dreamcast didn't last long enough to be considered as "modern" (relatively speaking) as PS2 and Gamecube. The GBA has was only discontinued about 5 years ago (according to Wikipedia), so it's still too close to being fresh on people's minds.

>It doesn't make sense.

Well, maybe not to you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:06:29 2013 No.1239716 File: 69 KB, 300x264, 1370902667204.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1239703 >Nobody outside of here remembers it. You're either clinically retarded, very sheltered, or trolling. Take your low quality posts elsewhere.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:06:29 2013 No.1239717 >>1239703 >Nobody outside of here remembers it Wait, you're fucking serious. This guy is fucking serious. I can't believe this guy is fucking serious.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:06:58 2013 No.1239718 >>1239708 After 1999 is not retro, before 1999 and not 6th gen except dreamcast is.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:07:58 2013 No.1239721 >>1239708 > Why is it 1999? Why not 1994? My assumption is because it's the last year of the 20th century.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:08:58 2013 No.1239725 >>1239718 I don't see why "before 1999 and not 6th Gen" is a thing. The Dreamcast is the only 6th Gen console from 1999, along with the Wonderswan. Why isn't it just "before 1999?"

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:08:58 2013 No.1239726 >>1239703 With that logic, no one remembers GB games because GBA got it off the map.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:08:58 2013 No.1239728

I find it funny how retards still cling to this generation concept when the rule is 1999. Thats all. Could you purchase a GBA in 1999? NO? Okay its not retro then. Can you purchase a dreamcast in 1999, sure as the fuck could. Why are underagers so vehement about their shitty GBA nostalgia.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:09:58 2013 No.1239730 >>1239718 Still not reading, I see. DC wasn't considered retro until recently. This is what I meant when I said "rules are not set in stone" Because they clearly aren't. For a brief period, you could not discuss the N64/PSX/Saturn here.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:11:00 2013 No.1239737 [DELETED]

>>1239725
Because who ever edited the sticky is a fucking idiot. The janitor purposely starts shit in here just by doing stupid little shit like that. He could have just made it say 1999 but he had to stick the idea in their heads just to start controversy. Then when people start sperging out over it he deletes posts and tries to pretend to be the hero. It's a sad case of hero syndrome.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:11:30 2013 No.1239734 >>1239728 >Why are underagers >people who don't agree with me are underage I don't even want the GBA here and I think you're stupid.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:11:30 2013 No.1239736 >>1239730 Actually, it was considered retro for a while until it was officially made not retro.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:11:31 2013 No.1239738 >>1239725 I really wish the sticky only had the date. We wouldn't have this problem with generations then.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:13:30 2013 No.1239745 >>1239737 >The janitor purposely starts shit in here just by doing stupid little shit like that. >janitors >having the power to do anything besides edit posts Come on, son, the sticky even has a mod capcode.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:13:30 2013 No.1239747 >>1239734 You're stupid because nobody that didn't grow up with the damn thing cares that much. Everyone fighting to put the PS2 in here only did so because "i had one growing up". Take a fucking hike faget

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:15:30 2013 No.1239750

>>1239736
>Actually, it was considered retro for a while until it was officially made not retro.

Nah. /vr/ originally did not allow for even 5th consoles to be discussed. That's N64/PSX/Saturn, etc. If those weren't considered retro, then neither was the DC.

The DC posts came from confusion from users about the 1999 date.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:16:00 2013 No.1239753

>>1239738
EXACTLY, why does it need to be in there? It doesn't there is no possible way to be confused by 1999. He just threw that in to start shit I honestly can't see any other reason for it. Like its a misguided attempted at clarity that was totally necessary, the GBA wasn't out in 1999 so its not allowed (who is confused by that), or he did it for the reason I stated (hes a faggot that starts shit).

JANITOR EXPLAIN YOURSELF FAGGOT, y u maek no sens?

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:16:30 2013 No.1239752

>>1239747
>You're stupid because nobody that didn't grow up with the damn thing cares that much.

Citation needed

Also, I find it funny that you cling to "grew up with" as some sort of metric. There are people here who were grown men when the PSX was in its prime.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:18:30 2013 No.1239758

>>1239747
You know, being someone who doesn't want the GBA in (not the person you replied to), can I just ask you to kindly shut the fuck up? You're doing more harm to your side than good.

>>1239750
Oh, really? Huh, I guess I wasn't really paying much attention back then, I was posting in /vr/ from the start but I wasn't making any kind of threads, just posting in threads others were making, and I must not have noticed the lack of, or the sudden inclusion of, 5th Gen games. My apologies for the mistake. Still, there was a previous time in which people thought it was, while this time there is nothing that hints at a possibility for the GBA to be considered retro.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:18:30 2013 No.1239759 >>1239745 mod/janitor same shit to me, its probably the same person for this board too because its so small.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:19:00 2013 No.1239764

>>1239758
>Huh, I guess I wasn't really paying much attention back then

It was only that way for like half a day. And it's really hard to see when the sticky gets updated because the mods like to post new ones like ninjas. I kinda like it. It's comforting in a creepy way.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:19:31 2013 No.1239762 >>1239758 can you kindly fuck off, if you honestly think it makes a difference stop hitting yourself in the head.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:19:31 2013 No.1239763

>>1239712
What? No, I'm just stating a fact.

>>1239715
The age of a system is important, but its popularity is too. The GBA is a 12 years old system nobody talks about nowadays, so it's retro.

>>1239716
>>1239717
I don't see the GBA being mentioned anywhere else.

>>1239721
The last year of the 20th century was the year 2000.

>>1239726
GBA is Nintendo's less sold portable system, and everybody remembers the GB because it had been out since forever. So no. DS blew the GBA out of the water and nowadays nobody talks about it.

>>1239738
There was a time when the NES wasn't retro, so no, that still doesn't resolve everything.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:21:01 2013 No.1239771

>>1239738
It's a problem because 8th gen is now a thing and before it was just 7th gen and everything in between was just "last gen"

Now it's been about about eight years since 6th gen was really relevant at all and it's hard to have discussions about those games when all most people seem to care about is what's new and popular.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:21:30 2013 No.1239772 >>1239763 Please stop posting. You aren't making any sense.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:24:00 2013 No.1239780 >>1239771 No, I mean if it was date only, generations wouldn't be relevant. Arguing to add more systems to be retro using a generation argument would not work.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:26:01 2013 No.1239789

>>1239763
>nobody talks about
>I don't see the GBA being mentioned anywhere else

Wasn't there a poster who gave links to GBA threads on both /v/ and /vg/ earlier?

>GBA is Nintendo's less sold portable system

And the GBA is still the 6th best-selling console of all time. It sold more than 80 million units, while the DC sold barely over 10 million units. It's not even Nintendo's least sold portable system because it sold more than double the units the 3DS has sold.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:32:30 2013 No.1239813

>>1239763
>The age of a system is important, but its popularity is too. The GBA is a 12 years old system nobody talks about nowadays, so it's retro.
Huh? NES came out in the mid 80s and people talk about it constantly. That means it isn't retro by your logic.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:33:30 2013 No.1239817 There is enough shit that doesn't get talked about here, we dont need to dilute that even further with more PS2 GBA shit. Not enough good threads in here too much generic mario/zelda circle jerk shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:35:30 2013 No.1239826 >>1239817 >too much generic mario/zelda circle jerk shit. I bet you're one of those guys that posts threads that get 5 responses and go on to bitch about other things being more popular.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:37:30 2013 No.1239829 >>1239826 Not him, but come on. It would be nice to talk about more obscure or less popular things, which we do but not nearly as often as series like Mario or Zelda.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:41:30 2013 No.1239830

>>1239826
and you're the kind of faggot who scrolls past a thread suggesting you try something new just to go talk about tfw no gf to play earthbound with. I've never said anything about it till now actually but why don't you post in a japanese computer or arcade general, just as much quality content on there even though its not "popular". Nobody gives a shit what you think about SMW you little faggot we have all played it and we all have our own opinions circle jerk threads serve no purpose.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:41:30 2013 No.1239831 >>1239829 So make some threads about it. As someone who likes popular and obscure shit, I'm not going to start getting mad at people because they want to talk about something I don't.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:42:01 2013 No.1239838 >>1239830 I can't make heads or tails out of this post, but I do know that it's stupid. What a meltdown.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:47:01 2013 No.1239854
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>>1239831
>So make some threads about it.
I do, one is up right now.
>I'm not going to start getting mad at people because they want to talk about something I don't.
I'm not getting mad, where did you get that from? If there are threads about things that I don't want to talk about, I don't post in them.
Now this guy is mad. >>1239830

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:52:30 2013 No.1239867 >>1239712 >I think he means it's really close to the border. I guess he makes a point then. But even then PS1/Saturn were 18 years ago, and n64 was 17 years ago, which is closer to 20 if rounded to the nearest 10.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 22:54:30 2013 No.1239878 >>1239867 >PS1/Saturn were 18 years ago Has it really been this long? Where does the time go?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 23:12:30 2013 No.1239934 >>1239867 Yeah. I reckon once the PS2/GC/Xbox are around 17-18 years old, that could be when its fair to allow them. This won't be for another 6 years.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 23:13:30 2013 No.1239940

>>1239348
I wouldn't have a problem with a board for consoles between current and retro but like you say if there's a demand/need.

Also, I'd be interested in a board for older or more obscure things. I've seen several interesting threads roll off the last page because more people were interested in arguing about some emulation shit than something actually really retro.

I'm sure every other board has people who would like their board split as well. Honestly I don't know why they don't have 2-3 times as many boards. You'd think it'be easier for mods to kill off topic threads and shitposts the more specific the topic of a board is.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 23:14:30 2013 No.1239945 >>1239878 >1999 was 30 years ago

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 23:16:00 2013 No.1239951 >>1239940 I think the main problem with that is speed. /vr/ isn't a fast board, we all know this, and splitting up this board by moving emulation discussion or anything like that somewhere else would make it slower.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 23:18:00 2013 No.1239956

>>1239951

I'm not chiming in on this argument and I don't think lack of speed is an issue, but I don't think most people on /vr/ would care if emulation threads got moved. Those threads are full of autism and drama, and 90% of the time, it's simply over someone doing something different.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 1 23:21:00 2013 No.1239967 >>1238256 >People seem to forget that the 3DO and Atari Jaguar began the 5th generation To be fair not many people even remember the 3DO and Jaguar even existed.

Anonymous Sun Dec 1 23:54:30 2013 No.1240087

We should just have a board for the current and previous generations and a board for everything else. It's a mistake to try to segment out a certain portion of non-current generations when the most recent couple are going to generate more discussion than every previous generation combined.

Anonymous Mon Dec 2 05:54:41 2013 No.1240731

>>1239951
Maybe I just don't get it but what's wrong with threads sticking around for a while. They used to last a couple weeks. Now things are gone in a few days, especially the useful ones where people post pics of problems and people help solve them. The shitpost threads seem to last forever and are restarted as soon as they disappear. Woo Hoo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 08:24:45 2013 No.1240913 >>1240731 I'm just happy we don't have /v/ speeds. That board is too fast, IMO.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 08:53:44 2013 No.1240951 every GBA game in existence is available for quick and easy download. What's your excuse for not knocking that handheld off your backlog?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 10:14:50 2013 No.1241076 >>1240951 Because I have a huge backlog for pretty much every other major system and adding to that before I've put even a small dent in it isn't going to help me deal with it?

Anonymous Mon Dec 2 10:16:53 2013 No.1241081

>>1241076
That, and I can't into GBA emulation. I've used multiple emulators, and on one of them half the games require fiddling with the settings for five minutes before they can work (and some don't work at all no matter what I do) and the other has horribly fucked up sound.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 11:05:58 2013 No.1241178 >>1241081 VBA-M is the only GBA emulator you need.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 12:33:15 2013 No.1241340 >>1236082 There's people from all over the world in this place retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 12:36:15 2013 No.1241343 >>1236467 Dead consoles. >no studio makes games for it anymore >the manufacturer has moved on to newer generation >no support of any kind >nobody actually plays it except people who enjoyed the console in its era That's pretty much what retro is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 12:48:45 2013 No.1241360 >>1241178 I thought it was ZSNES tier

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 12:57:45 2013 No.1241369 >>1241360 It's a fork of VisualBoy Advance and the most accurate GBA emulator out there. http://emulation-general.wikia.com/wiki/Game_Boy_Advance_emulators

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 13:05:15 2013 No.1241378 File: 511 KB, 499x281, tumblr_mato2zWJr01qg39ewo1_500.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>1241343 That pretty much defines the GBA.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 13:07:15 2013 No.1241382 >released 2001 >thread with 400+ posts >in a board that JUST NOW let in a console from 1999 Get the FUCK out to /v/, you dumb kids.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 2 13:12:15 2013 No.1241395 >>1241378 I really don't see it, especially considering the GBA was compatible with the GC, which was released the same year.

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