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How do you all hold your N64 controllers? I don't believe there's a right or wrong way of doing so, but I've been told I hold it a little strangely.

General discussion on controller holding and maneuvering is welcome too.

>> No.1216895
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Like this. Maybe moving my left hand to the left prong if needed

>> No.1216904
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A more important question: how do you wrap up the cords on your N64 controller?

This is how I always did it.

>> No.1216906

>>1216895
Held it like that, unless the game required extensive use of the D-Pad.
>>1216904
Wrapped the cord like that.

>> No.1216918

>>1216904
X-Wrap is the only way to wrap N64 controllers if you ask me.

>> No.1216940

>>1216895
I can't believe someone thought having a third of the controller hanging out in space 90% of the time with one of the shoulder buttons inaccessible was a good design. Seriously the worst controller on a non-marginal console.

>> No.1216958
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>>1216873

>> No.1216968

>>1216958

How do you use the analog stick, and don't pretend that you never use it. No games of worth used the d-pad for anything overtly important!

>> No.1216972
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>>1216904
Anyone else see this when they did that, or do I just spend too much time staring at inanimate objects?

>> No.1216973

The controller was made during the switch to 3D games, obviously it looks strange today but it served its purpose well

>> No.1216978

>>1216895
Always held it like this.

>> No.1216981

>>1216968
kirby used the dpad exclusively

>> No.1216993

>>1216968
Mischief Makers says hello

>> No.1217017

>>1216981
Fair enough
>>1216993
>shake shake

Still though. How do you use the analog stick? It's a hell of a distance to stretch your thumb.

>> No.1217054

>>1216873
jesus christ how autistic are you? nobody holds it like that

>> No.1217057

>>1217017
There's also the AKI wrestling games, which rely on Dpad for movement.

>> No.1217146
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>>1216873
Like this. More fingers on buttons means faster reaction times.

>> No.1217157

>>1216968
Wait...you played MK Trilogy and KI Gold using the analog?

You've got problems, man.

>> No.1217182

>>1216873
I had a friend in school that held his kind of like that, only not so high on the left side. That shit always irked the crap out of me.

>> No.1217294

I use three hands.

>> No.1217304

>>1216968

I recently played through Resident Evil 2, and the d-pad is a lot better than using the analog stick for running.

>> No.1217307

>>1216972
>Two MG bullet belts around his body
>Iron Wehrmacht cross on his right shoulder
>Several other medals on his left shoulder
>Huge wobbly dong that'll probably become worn out soon

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>>1216972
>I AM JUGGERNAUT

>> No.1217319

>>1217146
Just use a keyboard. Every finger can be used at all times.

>> No.1217338

>>1216940
>Seriously the worst controller on a non-marginal console.

I'm pretty sure the N64 is an objectively terrible console; the reason it was ever relevant was because it had Nintendo's IPs and Banjo. Could you imagine if the N64 was released today?

>came out two years, TWO FUCKING YEARS, after the competition
>only has 2 games at launch
>has no third party support
>has no games

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>>1217294
I USE MY MIND

>> No.1217410

>>1217146
that wont work for anything that requires quick precision joystick movement.

>> No.1217408

>>1217338
No, it wasn't terrible in its own right. They made some poor decisions with the hardware, but that doesn't mean it's bad. IMO, if you're looking for good first- and second-party Nintendo games, it's one of the best consoles.

>> No.1217485

>>1217338

>I'm pretty sure the N64 is an objectively terrible console; the reason it was ever relevant was because it had Nintendo's IPs and Banjo. Could you imagine if the N64 was released today?

There's no need to imagine it, it already happened.

>> No.1217540

>>1216895
This

>> No.1217609

>>1216958

This. Why would anyone hold it other than the normal controller way?

>> No.1219371

>>1216968
Pokemon Stadium says hello and fuck you

>> No.1219471

"Duuuh! I need a third hand in order to hold a N64 controller."
Is that a new meme or you have shit on your hands?

>> No.1219473

>>1219471
I actually have 3 hands.

>> No.1219642

>>1217146
>More fingers on buttons means faster reaction times.
not really

>> No.1219805

>>1219471

It's a shitmeme but it's hardly new - every "hey guys remember that waaaaacky N64 controller" article over the past decade has done the "HURR DURR THREE HANDS" bit.

>> No.1219830
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>>1217338
>the N64 is an objectively terrible console
This is the fullest retard I've ever seen anyone go.

>> No.1220818

>>1217338
N64 was amazing. Too bad you didn't have friends anon.

>> No.1221216

I don't understand why so many people have a problem with the N64 controller. No halfway decent game requires both the d-pad AND the analog stick, or both the L AND Z buttons. Hold it like >>1216895, pretend the left handle isn't there and it works just fine for 99% of the game. The left handle is superfluous and unnecessary, sure, but that's not worth throwing a bitchfit over.

Seriously how do so many people have trouble with it? It's not rocket science.

>> No.1221230

>>1221216
This. The controller isn't hard to hold or uncomfortable to use. But there's no denying that the design is awful. I couldn't imagine being a developer and having to make a game with it in mind.

>> No.1221508
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>>1221216
>No halfway decent game requires both the d-pad AND the analog stick, or both the L AND Z buttons.
Duke nukem zero hour sure did.

sure you could stop and hold B + analog/Z to change weapons, items and use them, but using d-pad/L is much easier and takes less time

>> No.1221525

>>1216958
What's with that Playstation controller?

>> No.1221541

>>1219805
I wasn't browsing internet communities at mid-late '90s but I don't recall anyone back then shit-talking about N64 controller even if they were Playstation fans (fortunately not fanboys).

>> No.1221547

>>1221525
the image is mirrored you derp

>> No.1221993

>>1216873
god damn, i hated that stupid console. i got one for my 16th birthday backwhen it debuted. nintendo jumped the fucking shark with that piece of dog shit. answer: you take that stupid alien controller and throw it in a small bonfire

>> No.1224481

>>1216904
The same way I wrap all my cords: wrap it around my hand a few times, give the end some slack, wrap the end around the loops I just made and feed the end through the middle. It is the best and most efficient way to tie wires as far as I know.

>> No.1224541

>>1217338
>>has no third party support
Most SNES-era 3rd party devs supported the N64, especially non-Japanese ones.

>> No.1224560

Anyone who says the N64 controller is bad design is either a troll, a tryhard, or lying. Seriously, the analog stick and what it did for gameplay completely overshadowed all of these fake troll posts. No one was looking at the fucking controller and barely any games had bad enough design to utilize the dpad and analog stick at the same time. I can't even remember one game that REQUIRED dpad usage. But everything you could have needed was there on the controller. It's not nintendo's fault if Duke Nukem had shitty designers that came up with a bad control scheme. If they hadn't included the DPad people would be knocking them for their hubris. I think the controller trolls don't realize that the Dual Shock and the Xbox controller didn't come out until after the N64 controller. PS1 didn't have analog controls for 3D games. Do you realize how retarded that is? Hi, I can't walk diagonally.

>> No.1224565

>>1224541
Also, who needs 3rd party support when you have the best 2nd party dev stables for the generation?

>> No.1224575

I think people looking backwards at controllers think that the pad format that NES, SNES, Genesis, and Early PS1 controllers used were an inevitability, but I think the point of th eN64 controller was to allow the controller to evolve how it needed to evolve. Oh my god I need a book on video game controller history now to satisfy my curiosity about controller development.

>> No.1224589

>>1224565
Third party support is what lead the Playstation to take over Nintendo's home market, and continues to keep the Playstation brand relevant. Even if Sony was loosing literally billions per console sold, it wouldn't fail because third parties have too much faith into it, and will do their damndest to keep them from going back to Nintendo. Konami is especially resentful of Nintendo.

>> No.1224593

>>1224589
>Konami is especially resentful of Nintendo.
Yet Konami made quite a few games for Nintendo, and the N64.

>> No.1225263

>>1221547
yeah, for an excellent reason, too

>> No.1225284

>>1224560
>PS1 didn't have analog controls for 3D games.

wwf smackdown 1
wwf smackdown 2
team buddies
gran turismo 1
gran turismo 2

>> No.1225427

>>1225284
Anon's talking about all the 3-D games that came out before the Dual Analog (or neGcon for that matter).

Saturn and PS didn't have analog sticks until after the N54 analog controller came out, so there was quite a long period when they both had 3-D games that were controlled using D-pads.

>> No.1226803

>>1221216
>No halfway decent game requires both the d-pad AND the analog stick, or both the L AND Z buttons.
Didn't Sin and Punishment do both?

>> No.1226827

>>1216873
How the heck did you take that picture?

>> No.1226860
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>>1216895
This of course.

...but I hold it like this for game where you need to spin the joystick really fast (aka Mario Party minigames.)

>>1216904
Recently switched over from the X to just one diagonal line. Makes unwrapping the cord immensely quicker, and still stays wrapped.

>> No.1226904

I actually keep my index finger in front of controller and hit the Z button with my middle finger. Feels pretty comfy.

>> No.1228212

>>1226860
Ever thought of putting the electronics of the N64 controller into a power glove?

>> No.1228625

>>1226860
Get your Dreamcast controller off the floor jeez do you want the stick to break

>> No.1228636

>>1228625
Don't worry, it wasn't like that for long. Had to shuffle things around to find my nearly broken N64 controller.
And the Gamecube's joystick is already broken from that, but it was a shitty $5 knock off my brother got.

>> No.1228864

>>1217146
I understand and appreciate the joke, thank you!

>> No.1230229

>>1216873
I hold it the way the game I'm playing was designed to have it held. They gave it three handles for a reason and it wasn't just to be kewl.

>> No.1230256
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>>1228212
I remember ads for this thing in every magazine.

>> No.1230798

>>1230256
Well that looks cumbersome as fuck. And I need it.

>> No.1230849

>>1217338
holy fucking shit i thought i was the only person who thought that. The N64 suffers from what i like to call "nintendo syndrome" what you will notice about the N64 is that the mast majority of 3rd party games are shit either that or their price is outrageously expensive for extremely common games. And the 1st and 2nd party games although which are all mediocre at best (when i said this i am taking the zelda games into account so dont come back with the usual "well what about zelda" because lets face it that game isnt that good its just another action game with boring gameplay and lackluster story line the only good thing about that game is the music ) and extremely common cost to much Just look at mario 64 for example that is $25.00 right now and its not even that good.

>> No.1230858

>>1224541
but the majority of 3rd party games on that were shovelware
captcha:cummings

>> No.1232509

>>1230849
Well of course you're entitled to your opinion, but I'm sure by now you already know that it is not the prevailing opinion.

>> No.1232527

>>1232509
>I'm sure by now you already know that it is not the prevailing opinion

I'd assume so. He even said it in his post.

>> No.1233719

>inb4 someone posts "that" picture