dreamcast thread

[Anonymous No.1216283]

Lets discuss the dreamcast

[Anonymous No.1216291]

>With the release of the 8th generation of consoles, the Sega Dreamcast will now be considered "retro", though the remainder of the sixth generation (Xbox, PS2, GameCube) will not.
How does this make remotely sense? The Wii-U has been out for a year now and is considered part of the eigth generation.
Are they also going to allow the PS2 in a few months more?

[Anonymous No.1216293]

>>1216291
Maybe once the PS6 and xbox dodecahedron comes out.

[Anonymous No.1216292]

so many god damn fighting games

[Anonymous No.1216295]

>>1216291
This. If Dreamcast is retro, then we have to include GameCube, Xbox, and PS2.

[Anonymous No.1216296]

>>1216291
whine more, cuntj

[Anonymous No.1216298]

>>1216291
this x1000. way to make this board even more shitty and /v/ like

[Anonymous No.1216301]

>>1216295
I don't see why.

I really can't see anybody considering that line of consoles "retro" even 10 years from now.

Maybe they'll get their own category like "breakthrough consoles" or some shit.

[Anonymous No.1216304]

>>1216298
And your post isn't helping
take this stupid shit elsewhere while I try to find an arcade stick

[Anonymous No.1216306]

>>1216295
I could live with the sixth generation having the same cutoff as PC games have now.

[Anonymous No.1216307]

>>1216301
That's my point. The Dreamcast is with the GameCube, PS2, and Xbox in that regard. None of them should be considered retro yet.

[Anonymous No.1216308]

I can't wait until /vr/ is nothing but Dreamcast and How do I emulate? threads.

[Anonymous No.1216309]

>>1216308
So you mean like every other thread we've had? Its okay to delude yourself but don't spread your idiocy. This isn't as world-changing and dramatic as you're making it out to be.

[Anonymous No.1216314]

Dreamcast
>Discontinued March 2001

Xbox
>Discontinued May 2008

PS2
>still in production

But yeah, Dreamcast isn't any more retro than those.

[Anonymous No.1216317]

>>1216314
>>still in production

Untrue.

[Anonymous No.1216318]

>>1216314
ps2 was discontinued officially like 2 years ago. There are still new games being released for it in Japan though amazingly

[Anonymous No.1216321]

>>1216317
No, he's right, Anon. In some countries it is still being produced, but it will be discontinued next year, in March, world wide.

[Anonymous No.1216323]

>>1216318
For some reason I thought they were still being shipped even if they were done with production.

Even so, PS2 is a far more contemporary than the Dreamcast

[Anonymous No.1216326]

>>1216318
>ps2 was discontinued officially like 2 years ago. There are still new games being released for it in Japan though amazingly

Dreamcast also has new games released

[Anonymous No.1216327]

>>1216314
Wasn't the PS1 discontinued after Xbox and Gamecube?

[Anonymous No.1216328]

>>1216326
So does the Mega Drive. I heard it had gotten a new game few months back.

[Anonymous No.1216330]

I personally want the PS2, GC, DC, and XB to be considered "retro" enough for /vr/, already. Discussion about them all is practically dead on /v/, so moving them here wouldn't hurt anything. Besides, I want to show off some of my development hardware.

[Anonymous No.1216335]

>>1216327

No, it was discontinued in 2004 and it stopped getting games in 2003 IIRC. PS2 got games until 2011, mostly sport games and visual novels.

[Anonymous No.1216338]

>>1216328
The Megadrive is still VERY popular in Russia, and Ukraine.

[Anonymous No.1216340]

>>1216330
If we do that, then we should also include PC games made before 2005.

[Anonymous No.1216343]

>>1216335
There was a PS2 game released officially this year.

[Anonymous No.1216342]

>>1216330
No, let's just get rid of the stupid inconsistency of allowing all games before 2000 and explicitly disallowing the dreamcast.

[Anonymous No.1216348]

>>1216340
I'd be okay with that.

[Anonymous No.1216351]

>>1216330
It would hurt the discussion of niche topics on /vr/.

[Anonymous No.1216352]

>>1216342

the 2000 is there for PC games. consoles go by (or at least used to) by generation. allowing DC topics on /vr/ is beyond retarded but oh well, lets shit the whole board up so a minority of whiny underaged faggots who were babies when DC was released are appeased.

[Anonymous No.1216354]

>>1216351
So does allowing DC. Every new console allowed means less place for more niche topics

[Anonymous No.1216359]

>>1216352
Fuck you and your elitism. Nobody cares how much of an old fuck you are.

>>1216354
Dreamcast is a niche topic.

[Saten meta whiner No.1216359,1]

>>1216352
LMAO #REAMEDCAST

[Anonymous No.1216373]

>>1216342
If it meant games released before 2000 there wouldn't be an issue. You can get DC games up to Shenmue.
But they based it on the release of the platform so every addition opens the floodgates.

Why even go by whole years instead of months and days? Restrict the board to games released 15 years ago so people get a few new games to discuss every day.

[Anonymous No.1216376]

>tfw you can discuss Sonic Adventure but not Sonic Adventure DX
>tfw the same applies between Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic Adventure 2: Battle
>tfw I have no face

[Anonymous No.1216378]

So Dreamcast is now allowed, and everyone starts arguing about how PS2, Xbox and Gamecube should be allowed as well, which is the reason DC discussion was forbidden in the first place. Way to go.

[NESfag No.1216380]

I can't wait till PS2 is allowed so I have someone to discuss the Onimusha series with ;_;

I tried /v/ twice but that was hopeless
>/vg/>>5348513

[Anonymous No.1216382]

>>1216380
Let me fix that for you
>>>/vg/5348513

[Anonymous No.1216383]

>>1216373
>retro cutoff date relative to current year

That'd be reasonable, yes. Retro means games that nobody really plays anymore, save for its actual fans.

>>1216376
Just talk about both versions. It's the same shit.

[Anonymous No.1216384]

>>1216352
Yeah fuck those subhuman Dreamcast fans, they are as bad as those anime and light novel crossboarders that shit up /jp/.

I guarantee you by the end of the week we'll be allowed to talk about the fucking PS4/XBone/WiiU. /vr/ is fucking finished.

[Anonymous No.1216387]

>>1216383
>Just talk about both versions. It's the same shit.

How? Apparently only the former are now retro enough for /vr/

[NESfag No.1216385]

I can't wait till PS2 is allowed so I have someone to discuss the Onimusha series with ;_;

I tried /v/ twice but that was hopeless
>>>/vg/5348513

[Anonymous No.1216391]

>>1216387
Remakes and ports of retro games have always gotten a free pass on /vr/. Just look at all the discussion of the GBA and DS remakes in the Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest threads.

[Anonymous No.1216393]

>>1216387
It's a rerelease of the same 1999 game. If anyone is autistic enough to go full retro police on your ass because it's a recent rerelease, then just ignore them.

[Anonymous No.1216396]

>>1216394
Who the fuck cares.

[Anonymous No.1216394]

>>1216393
It's not just a rerelease. It had many fixes and updates (and also some new bugs)

[Anonymous No.1216395]

I liek talking bout Dreamcast cuz its soo comfy and its what i grew up with. so there. also what are some underrated GameCube games? oooh and what's a good android device to play some Dreamcast gamez???

[Anonymous No.1216397]

>>1216391
>GBA
And I just realized that if we let 6th Gen in that GBA will be retro too.

[Anonymous No.1216402]

>>1216384
If /vr/ is finished, then hopefully people like you will stop posting here

[Anonymous No.1216403]

Dreamcast is more PS1-gen than PS2-gen

http://pastebin.com/ZY2zNqrh

[Anonymous No.1216404]

>>1216397
Well there's no reason it shouldn't be retro. It's basically a SNES that fits in your pocket, complete with a shitty small screen and not enough buttons.

It's 2 generations behind and nobody really gives a shit about it anymore. Basically all the games I used to play on it are dead games whose online communities have pretty much died.

[Anonymous No.1216405]

>>1216402
but he's right

[Anonymous No.1216409]

>>1216405
He's a bad troll and you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.1216421]

>>1216397
If 6th generation gets allowed completely then PSP will be retro too.

[Anonymous No.1216424]

HAHAHA

VICTORY

ALL HAIL THE DREAMCAST

[Anonymous No.1216425]

>>1216403
The Wii is more PS2-gen than PS3-gen.
The Neo Geo is more PS1-gen then SNES-gen

We can have arguments about this until eternity. It doesn't change the fact that the Dreamcast was conceived as the first next generation system at the time, better than the N64/PSX/Sat, and that it's major competitors, which would eventually kill off the Dreamcast, were the GC/PS2/Xbox.

tl;dr: If we allow Dreamcast, we have to allow Playstation 2, Xbox, GameCube, Game Boy Advance, and Pre-2005 PC game discussion on the board. I don't see why Dreamcast fans would have a problem with this as a condition for allowing their console on the board.

[Anonymous No.1216429]

>>1216421
PSP is 7th Generation, along with the DS. Neither of them even factor into this discussion.

[Anonymous No.1216430]

I learned what the Slippery Slope fallacy was on my literal first day of college. First day of class in Logic 101, Freshman year.

tl;dr no one on /vr/ has gone to college.

[Anonymous No.1216431]

>>1216425
We don't have to allow shit. Board is for everything before 2000, end of story. No need to have autistic arguments over anything. Just set the date and shut up.

[Anonymous No.1216434]

>>1216425

>If we allow Dreamcast, we have to allow Playstation 2, Xbox, GameCube, Game Boy Advance, and Pre-2005 PC game discussion on the board. I don't see why Dreamcast fans would have a problem with this as a condition for allowing their console on the board.

Wow, the slippery slope fallacy AND a strawman! That was some top rate troll logic there.

[Anonymous No.1216435]

Dreamcast still has games coming out for it in 2013.

Dreamcast has a lot of games that game out in 1999.

Dreamcast is awesome, and never discussed on /v/.

Since dreamcast is such a misfit maybe it should get it's own channel. Just sayin.

Dreamcast.

[Anonymous No.1216436]

>>1216425
>GameCube
>Xbox

>killing anything

Much like how Hitler's army as "too damn big", the PS2's ability to fly off shelves was "too damn great". Says a lot when 6th gen has the biggest marketshare gap since the 3rd gen.

[Anonymous No.1216437]

So much anger over one console.

Doesn't seem like much is going to change considering the Dreamcast has had daily threads since the first day of /vr/.

>>1216425
>If we allow Dreamcast, we have to allow Playstation 2, Xbox, GameCube, Game Boy Advance, and Pre-2005 PC game discussion on the board. I don't see why Dreamcast fans would have a problem with this as a condition for allowing their console on the board.

Says who?

[Anonymous No.1216438]

A decade later, the Dreamcast still causes this much butthurt. It's still getting games, too. Long live the Dreamcast, you adorable bastard of a console.

[Anonymous No.1216442]

>>1216429
PSP and DS were released in 2004. Three years after Xbox and Gamecube, two years before PS3, Xbox 360 and Wii.
If the cutoff gets upped to 2005 they're well included.

>>1216431
In the next few months the board will be bombarded with PS2 threads and requests to raise the limit to 2001.

[Anonymous No.1216447]

>>1216434
How is it a strawman if I'm ok with allowing all of them on the board? I just don't see why Segafags get to have their 6th Gen console on the board and the Sonyfags and Nintendofags don't.

[Anonymous No.1216445]

>>1216430
apparently you didn't teach you that the Slippery Slope isn't always a fallacy.

[Anonymous No.1216448]

>>1216447

Because the Dreamcast isn't a 6th gen console.

[Anonymous No.1216452]

>>1216442
No, it won't. If some bad troll does that, report them for shitposting.

>>1216445
It is in your case, because you're butthurt, have no real way of knowing the future nor any real evidence to imply causal relationship between one event and a future event.

>>1216447
We aren't talking in terms of generations so it would be appreciated if you shut the fuck up about them already.

The date is 2000. Nobody cares if sonyfags get left out.

[Anonymous No.1216453]

>>1216448
It is sixth gen. Even the new sticky reffers to it as sixth gen. No one denied this before /vr/ was created

[Anonymous No.1216456]

>>1216453

No one was forced to actually think about whether it was 6th gen before /vr/ was created. Truth is derived from facts, not public opinion.

[Anonymous No.1216460]

>>1216295
>>1216291

/vr/ then
>give us dreamcast threads you fascist mods!

/vr now:
>WTF dreamcast threads!?

You niggers make no sense.

[Anonymous No.1216459]

>>1216425
>Pre-2005 PC game discussion
Thankfully we can already do this one. The PC crowd is pretty lenient on the cutoff date if the game is actually worth discussing. Mods don't seem to care either since no one throws fits like this thread exemplifies.

[Anonymous No.1216461]

>>1216452
> If some bad troll does that, report them for shitposting.
That didn't work with the Dreamcast apparently. The staff gave into their whining and removed a major obstacle against the PS2 being allowed.
If Dreamcast can be retro despite being sixth gen, why can't the PS2 when the board is a year old?

[Anonymous No.1216462]

>>1216456
>>1216456
And I assume 'truth' is only the stuff you accept?

[Anonymous No.1216464]

>>1216462

No, it's stuff like this.

>>1216448

[Anonymous No.1216468]

>>1216464
I pic you made is automatically true?

Nice

Too bad the truth is that DC is still 6th gen

[Anonymous No.1216469]

>>1216460
/vr/ is a very slow board, people who make threads and reply to them a lot can appear to be different people but that isn't always the case

[Anonymous No.1216475]

>>1216461
PS2 has 2 more years
it seems theres pretty much a 15 year rule when it comes to hardware
software has too many exclusions to count when it comes to topics of discussion

[Anonymous No.1216471]

>>1216459
What are you talking about? Threads about PC games from 2000 get removed while threads about console games from 2000 are allowed. The main way to get through is to talk about franchises and broader topics.

[Anonymous No.1216478]

>>1216468

Are you doubting the factual accuracy of the information in that image? You can double check it all yourself, if you want.

[Anonymous No.1216483]

>>1216478
That pic is an argument for including PS2. Since they shared the same games and the same console generation

[Anonymous No.1216484]

>>1216478
>picture lists all the multiplatform Dreamcast games that were on the PSX and N64
>completely ignores all the games that were on the PS2 and GC

[Anonymous No.1216485]

>>1216475
The rule was 1999 when the board started in March and has remained that way since then side from a single day when it was raised to 2001.
Doesn't it seem logical that the PS2 will get allowed in March when it turns 14 and the board turns 1?
Wonderswan and NGPC have been allowed before they were 15.

[Anonymous No.1216486]

>all this meta

[Anonymous No.1216489]

>>1216484
It also ignores the PC games that aren't considered retro either.

[Anonymous No.1216492]

>>1216471
Several games past 1999 get mentioned all of the time in threads and never get touched.

[Anonymous No.1216491]

It's not so much that the dreamcast belongs on the retro board as it is that there should be more boards than what there are.

Retro should be divided up between 1st to 4th gen and 5th to present minus one (7th once the new consoles get going). Add in a handhelds board and things would be nice.

[Anonymous No.1216493]

>>1216484

>completely ignores all the games that were on the PS2 and GC

There were very few of those. The only games the Dreamcast shares with the PS2 and GC are games that got ported after the Dreamcast was discontinued. True multiplatform games are all but nonexistent.

[Anonymous No.1216498]

>>1216493
>There were very few of those.
Not true at all. The biggest example is this >>1216376

[Anonymous No.1216496]

I'd be fine with pre-2000 Dreamcast games being allowed, but maybe then there would be some ambiguity about later DC games (e.g. REC:V was released only two months into 2000), and people would start asking for the PS2.

[Anonymous No.1216501]

>>1216485
both the NGP and wonderswan were released before or on 99 bro
PS2 would be over a year before it hits the 15 year mark

[Anonymous No.1216505]

>>1216498

Both of those games were ported after the Dreamcast died. I addressed that.

[Anonymous No.1216506]

>>1216486

>deleting reaction images

[Anonymous No.1216507]

>>1216505
But you won't address the fact that we now can't talk about them, despite them being the same game.

[Anonymous No.1216508]

>>1216507

If they are the same game, then you can talk about them, because there's no reason to talk about the Gamecube version specifically.

[Anonymous No.1216509]

>>1216448
All that picture tells me is we can talk great games without needing Dreamcast to be allowed.

[Anonymous No.1216510]

>>1216508
>there's no reason to talk about the Gamecube version specifically.
Confirmed for newer playing the Gamecube version

[Anonymous No.1216512]

>>1216507
games don't have the same exclusions as consoles and operating systems
ports and remakes are openly and freely discussed here

[Anonymous No.1216521]

>>1216492
Sixth generation games get occasionally mentioned in threads but that doesn't mean you can openly talk about them outside of such exceptions.

[Anonymous No.1216527]

>>1216491
/vr/ is slow enough as it is we don't need to break it up like that.

onto what people are talking about here. In my opinion, while the Dreamcast may technically be part of the 6th generation I always felt it was much more part of the 5th in it's official life time. It has already been presented in this thread that it shares many games with other 5th gen consoles. It may have a few that were from other 6th gen but undoubtedly has many more from the 5th. Not only this but I find that many games on the Dreamcast fit more with the 5th generation in terms of design. Consider the fact that all the other 6th gen systems have a dual analog controller and so there's a lot of games designed and built around that.

[Anonymous No.1216530]

Since mods/janitors are here:

Can you add this to the sticky:

>Emulation threads are allowed, although it is encouraged to ask emulation questions in Emulation General
>>>/vg/emulation

[Anonymous No.1216543]

>>1216430
Slippery slope arguments are not always fallacious.

A valid slippery slope argument is the notion that setting a generalized precedent will lead to specific, undesirable results.
>Banning gay marriage produces a slippery slope where the government has the authority to legislate its opinions on current moral issues.

An invalid one says that setting a generalized precedent will lead to other, unrelated generalized precedents.
> Allowing gay marriage will invariably lead to allowing marriages across species.

In short: Slippery slopes concerning the concept of precedent are valid. Slippery slopes concerning the concept of a chain reaction are not.

[Anonymous No.1216552]

Dreamcast is retro, It was originally designed and built to compete with 5th gen. The Saturn flopped in the US and Japan wanted a unified architecture with the new NAOMI boards in arcades. The dreamcast was designed to compete with the 64 and PS1, and was launched into the 5th gen marketplace, as their 2nd attempt at a 5th gen console. When it had to stand up to the 6th gen, it was the weakest offering and faltered because it was never meant to compete in the same space as the PS2 and GC. Infact Sega aided in the development of the GC after the DC's failure. The early GC dev kits were even derived from DC katana dev kits. The GC is the 6th gen dreamcast.

[Anonymous No.1216559]

>>1216552
I guess the 360 was also meant to compete with the 6th gen and the WiiU was meant to compete with the 7th gen

[Anonymous No.1216564]

>>1216559
You can also argue that the Mega Drive/Genesis was meant to take on the NES, so it's a 3rd Gen system.

[Anonymous No.1216565]

>>1216298
/v/ only cares about "next gen" and flavor of the month games. Even /vg/ wasn't enough to stop them from making the same pointless thread about the same game/console as soon as the last one dies. If it's not new and popular, it's either "bad" or just ignored. Just try starting a 6th gen (or even 7th gen now) thread and see what happens.

[Anonymous No.1216572]

>>1216564
Actually it was meant to take on the NES.

[Anonymous No.1216574]

>>1216564

>You can also argue that the Mega Drive/Genesis was meant to take on the NES

That's exactly what it was meant to do. Stop talking about things you don't understand.

[Anonymous No.1216576]

>>1216572
>>1216574
That's my point. With >>1216552 logic, the Genesis would be a 3rd Gen system since it was meant to take on the NES.

[Anonymous No.1216579]

>>1216397
It may as well be. Half the games on it are GB/NES/SNES ports/remakes, then you have stuff like this and RetroN 5

[Anonymous No.1216581]

>>1216576

Okay? So what if it is?

[Anonymous No.1216583]

>The time has finally come.
Let's do this. Ask me anything

[Anonymous No.1216586]

>>1216574
>That's exactly what it was meant to do. Stop talking about things you don't understand.
yeah I'm sure thats exactly why it continued to try and trump the SNES throughout it's life

[Anonymous No.1216587]

>>1216583
>Ask me anything

how many gallons of cum have you guzzled in your lifetime?

[Anonymous No.1216589]

>>1216581
Not him but Genesis is 4th gen

Dreamcast is also 6th gen but I do think it should be considered retro now that it's two generations and over 14 years old

[Anonymous No.1216592]

>>1216587
Zero.

Are we insisting on derailing this Dreamcast thread? Because we can start another one and another and another.

[Anonymous No.1216596]

>>1216583
Is Sonic Shuffle really that bad? Have you tried Fast Striker or Sturmwind? How are they?

[Anonymous No.1216597]

>>1216581
It isn't a 3rd Generation system. It has been classified as a 4th Gen system for a very long time because it's main competitors were the Sufami/SNES and the PCE/TG16 and it's technical specs are similar to them.

It's the exact same reason why the Dreamcast is a 6th Gen system because it is closer in specs to the GC/PS2/Xbox and they were its primary competition.

[Anonymous No.1216598]

>>1216596
Shuffle wasn't released for the DC. Only Windows and PS2.

[Anonymous No.1216601]

>>1216592

I'm sorry, lets all ask you questions about your shitty DC collection, that should make for some fascinating discussion. seriously what the fuck do you want people to ask you?

[Anonymous No.1216605]

>>1216598
That bad, huh?

[Anonymous No.1216604]

all this shitposting, /v/ arrives with the dreamcast threads everytime

[Anonymous No.1216608]

So dreamcast online general anyone?

[Anonymous No.1216606]

>>1216598
thats pretty funny, I actually wish I still had my copy of it for DC since I didn't mind it too much

[Anonymous No.1216609]

This is retarded. If Dreamcast is allowed (and it damn well shouldn't be) then so should GCN, PS2, and XBox.

[Anonymous No.1216610]

>>1216596
Sonic Shuffle is certainly no Mario Party but the graphics are better than the Mario Party 64 games and have that signature Sega "slickness". Basically only play it if you're sick of Mario Party or are feeling especially Segarific.

I haven't really burned many games but I look forward to discovering games I was unaware of through upcoming discussions here on my beloved home board of /vr/.

I like SHMUPs but I'm not as good at them as I am at some other games so I don't really pursue that genre as much as some of my others, like RPG/Adventure games.

This is the part where I'll start out by recommending Seventh Cross (Evolution) - probably my favorite obscure Dreamcast game. You start off as an amoeba and you slowly evolve parts of your body one at a time through nutrient collection and a weird sprite-painting style minigame. I love it.

[Anonymous No.1216613]

>>1216608
is there anything besides PSO that you'd want to play on the DC?

[Anonymous No.1216617]

>>1216610
Meant to post a pic. Pic related it's Seventh Cross.

[Anonymous No.1216619]

>>1216609
exactly.

[Anonymous No.1216620]

>>1216617
Actually I accidentally posted my next Dreamcast recommendation there. I'm so excited I'm fucking up. It's Frame Gride, from the people that brought you Armored Core. It's Armored Core re-imagined as a medieval era giant robot fighting game with magic weapons. Fucking awesome.

This is finally a pic of Seventh Cross

[Anonymous No.1216623]

>>1216613
Alien Front maybe. Sports games.

[Anonymous No.1216624]

>>1216609
They can make a trial. I am just worried if the shitposters ruining again a board.

[Anonymous No.1216628]

>>1216624
they already are if it wasn't apparent

[Anonymous No.1216632]

>>1216597

I ASSERT IT AS TRUTH SO THEREFORE IT IS

[Anonymous No.1216636]

>>1216624
Don't worry about it. Anybody who doesn't get that the DAWN OF THE FUCKING MILLENNIUM wasn't a significant cut-off point for things to feel different in our memories isn't going to be very bright.

All their arguments will basically boil down to being butthurt that the Dreamcast (and SEGA) will forever have their last hurrah as the most awesome video game console of the 20th century.

[Anonymous No.1216645]

>>1216636
>Posting PS2 version of the game
>Accidental trolling

[Anonymous No.1216653]

hardware generations are stupid, its just what some autists on wikipedia made up because they have OCD and everything has to be organized.

Software on the other hand is a different story games from the space invaders era 1979-1982 have their own unique style. The next era simple sprites 82-83 games like time pilot this era didnt last long as higher detailed sprites started appearing in 84 with games like Pacland. This progression continues as games get better but console babies would never notice because they were always limited by their hardware Atari games will always look like an atari game despite coming out in a different era. My point is the dreamcast is a retro system because it plays games from that era its hardware is the same as arcade machines of the era the Naomi is NOT a 6th gen system. Also it was released in 98 generations are stupid and for console babies

[Anonymous No.1216664]

>>1216653
>its just what some autists on wikipedia made up

no. console generations where widely known and accepted way before wikipedia even existed. stop talking about shit you have no clue about.

[Anonymous No.1216667]

Finally, we won.

Dreamcast now has a home.

I love you guys, I really do.

[Anonymous No.1216670]

>>1216664

We all know that questioning arbitrary distinctions is never okay. Always accept what the majority says all the time, even if it clashes with the facts. Maintain the status quo. Stop thinking. Submit.

[Anonymous No.1216672]

>>1216667
Have another Dreamcast pic. It's D2. If you haven't played D2 play D2.

[Anonymous No.1216673]

>>1216632
It's general consensus. Most magazine publications and online sources place the Dreamcast as 6th Gen. The only people arguing that it's a 5th Gen system are those of you who want to get the system qualified as retro by attempting to bend it's classification to meet the old rules. There is nobody else who's arguing for it to be considered 5th Gen.

[Anonymous No.1216675]

>>1216670
nothing clashes with the facts not unless you want to continue to try and rewriting history for every console generation

[Anonymous No.1216676]

>>1216670
This is what we call a strawman argument. Take note

[Anonymous No.1216687]

>>1216675

>nothing clashes with the facts

>>1216448

[Anonymous No.1216703]

>>1216676
actually its pretty well grounded because that is exactly what your position is there is no misrepresentation. Console generations are stupid. A sega genesis is not the same as a SNES just because they are both 16 bits they are from 2 different HARDWARE eras. Console generations fuck off

[Anonymous No.1216702]

>>1216687
It doesn't fit anywhere. It's our White Buffalo Woman.

Panzer Front is hard as hell if you don't know Japanese but it's an extremely hardcore tactical game. Like Front Mission if Front Mission was real shit.

[Anonymous No.1216706]

YOU LOST

GET OVER IT

[Anonymous No.1216704]

>>1216687
DC had new games released all the way to 2007
And it shared many of its games with other sixth generation consoles

[Anonymous No.1216705]

>>1216687
this same problem exists in every generation of consoles, why is it only now and with the Dreamcast?
oh it's because you're all faggots

[Anonymous No.1216714]

My sister wants to get her husband a Dreamcast and games. I suggested the following games to her:

-Grandia 2
-JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
-Gauntlet Legends
-Tech Romancer

Anything else I should bring up?

[Anonymous No.1216713]

>>1216703
>A sega genesis is not the same as a SNES just because they are both 16 bits they are from 2 different HARDWARE eras

But that's wrong

>>1216704

What's not noted in this post is that those new games were often shmups released by smaller companies and not officially supported DC releases

[Anonymous No.1216718]

>>1216714
Project Justice

[Anonymous No.1216719]

This whole thread is people getting analpained over the fact they can't discuss their real first consoles. I honestly think PS2 GC and Xbox should never ever be allowed here, but that's just me.

DC is just weird and old enough that I see no issues. Douches from /v/, reddit, neogaf weren't old enough to get the Dreamcast but they were old enough for the other 6th gens.

KEEP /VR/ PURE

[Anonymous No.1216724]

>>1216713
whats wrong is I think DC should be retro just because of when it launched. It was before the turn of the century its a 20th century console not a 21st century console LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE. that should be the criteria not some made up generations ACTUAL physical dates

[Anonymous No.1216726]

>>1216714

Skies of Arcadia
Shenmue/2
Grandia 2
Sanic Adventure/2
Metropolis Street Racer
Power Stone/2

[Anonymous No.1216721]

>>1216714
pics of your sister?

[Anonymous No.1216727]

>>1216719
Given enough time, they should be allowed here.

Also
>implying /vr/ was your very first stop on 4chan, let alone the internet

[Anonymous No.1216728]

Which generation am I? Generation X? Y? Millennial? Is there one femtosecond in time that distinguishes between generations?

tl;dr If you subscribe to this "generation" doublethink, you are actually retarded.

[Anonymous No.1216730]

>>1216714
They're all good, Man.

[Anonymous No.1216732]

>>1216724
>we should change well established classification systems so it's easier for me to understand

[Anonymous No.1216734]

>>1216726

I heard that the Gamecube port of Arcadia was better, should I tell her to find that if she can?

[Anonymous No.1216737]

OH BABY

DREAMCAST TIME

I've been thinking of buying one for months

[Anonymous No.1216738]

>>1216728
>calling people retarded with no real reasoning why
>calling people retarded over well-understood and agreed definitions of things

[Anonymous No.1216739]

>>1216719
really I don't think they should be here for the fact gc/ps2/xbox still get regular threads on /v/
/vr/ has a similar function as /vg/ as it's to keep regular discussion of topics that have some obvious interest but would be swept away otherwise by the constant shit on /v/

[Anonymous No.1216736]

>>1216728

Generation NEET Dipshit.

[Anonymous No.1216740]

>>1216713
The last official, licensed Dreamcast game was Karous, released in 2007. That poster was right on the money with that date.

[Anonymous No.1216747]

>>1216743
Are you fucking high.

[Anonymous No.1216750]

>>1216734

They're both pretty rare, so it's up to her.

In my opinion, both versions are good, but if you want a bit more content and a easier game in general the Gamecube version is a go, although it has worse music.

I have both, and I prefer the DC version to the GC.

Regardless you're going to be playing a 60+ hour game.

>>1216737

Do it man, you won't regret it.

[Anonymous No.1216743]

>>1216719
>I honestly think PS2 GC and Xbox should never ever be allowed here
Then where should they be allowed? You won't get much discussion about them on /v/, that's for sure

[Anonymous No.1216752]

>>1216743
Right now, they're fine on /v/.

That being said, the guy you're responding to is retarded. In his hypothetical world, in 2020, we shouldn't be able to talk about 7th gen consoles here.

[Anonymous No.1216751]

>>1216732
I understand the generations its just stupid, consoles shouldn't dictate shit when half the games from the era WERE IN THE ARCADE but you little underage shitstains dont even know what those are.

[Anonymous No.1216757]

>>1216743
who cares, Good threads like my games similar to ghosts n goblins get pushed back because underage shitheads want to debate zelda to death, we dont need more new shit gaying things up

[Anonymous No.1216761]

>>1216750

All right. Any other good RPGs for the system? Her husband likes RPGs. I considered Evolution as it's the only DC RPG I remember.

[Anonymous No.1216762]

when you bitch and whine enough people listen

[Anonymous No.1216764]

>>1216743
/v/ always talks about God Hand, DMC3, San Andreas, Morrowind, and a bunch of other 6th gen games.

[Anonymous No.1216759]

>>1216751
You don't seem to understand much, and the fact that you're trying to call someone else a child is nothing short of hilarious

[Anonymous No.1216768]

>>1216757

What? GnG gets talked about here a ton.

>getting butthurt because other games are more popular than your games

[Anonymous No.1216765]

>>1216751
oh boy check out this guys huge cock he knows what arcades are

[Anonymous No.1216773]

>>1216762
>when you bitch and whine enough people listen
Doubt it was that. It's probably because the 8th gen officially began today.

[Anonymous No.1216778]

>>1216298
This.

/vr/ was best when it didn't even allow 5th gen consoles.

This board will die when PS2, Xbox, and Gamecube are allowed.

[Anonymous No.1216769]

>>1216714
The dreamcast version of JJBA is pretty garbage.

[Anonymous No.1216780]

>>1216778

>/vr/ was best when it didn't even allow 5th gen consoles.

That never happened.

[Anonymous No.1216786]

>>1216761

Grandia 2
Silver

That's all I know, but look around the Dreamcast was a really good system with a lot of games spanning tons of genres.

[Anonymous No.1216782]

>>1216780
>That never happened.

So you weren't here when the board was created.

[Anonymous No.1216784]

>>1216778
>/vr/ was best when it didn't even allow 5th gen consoles.
This hard.

[Anonymous No.1216792]

>>1216778
>/vr/ was best when it didn't even allow 5th gen consoles.
We rarely ever talk 5th gen anyway. There's the occasional Mario 64 thread or Chrono Cross bitchfit thread.

[Anonymous No.1216793]

>>1216780
It was for less than a day when the board launched.

So technically it was like that, but their claims are pretty laughable.

Also, while this board is better than /v/, I don't know why you think a new generation will kill the board. Because those emulator arguments, filter arguments, CRT vs LCD, Sony vs. Nintendo, and SNES vs. Genesis threads that STILL persist to this day are all so great, aren't they?

[Anonymous No.1216794]

>>1216768
the only discussion that goes on in here is circle jerking by underage faggots
>>1216765
oh boy check out this kid only talks about mario zelda and final fantasy. What an awesome contributor. I really needed to hear about how much you like mario world more than 3 again, thanks you little faget.

[Anonymous No.1216798]

>>1216794
Man, you seem more underage than anyone else in this thread, with your shitty typing and insecurity about the age of others.

[Anonymous No.1216797]

>>1216793
>Sony vs. Nintendo
Guess what wouldn't exist without 5th gen shit.

[Anonymous No.1216812]

>>1216786

Cool, thanks. I've also been looking for RTS-tyle games for DC, but I'm really unfamiliar with RTS, so I think I'll stick to RPG recommendations.

[Anonymous No.1216809]

>>1216797
I like how you ignored the rest of my post, which covers arguments that don't have to do with 5th gen and beyond, and a console war that happened before 5th gen even started!

[Anonymous No.1216816]

>>1216809
You shouldn't have used it as an example because it makes you look stupid.

[Anonymous No.1216817]

>>1216794
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.1216823]

>>1216816
>because it makes you look stupid.

How so? And this still doesn't account for your selective reading.

[Anonymous No.1216819]

>>1216798

says the try hard that cares about his typing

[Anonymous No.1216824]

>>1216761
1. Dragon Riders: Chronicles of Pern
2. Elemental Gimmick Gear
3. Evolution
4. Evolution 2
5. Grandia II
6. Phantasy Star Online
7. Phantasy Star Online, Version 2
8. Record of Lodoss War
9. Silver
10. Skies of Arcadia
11. Time Stalkers

Not my list. Record of Lodoss War is pretty good though I can attest to that and it might make someone decide to check out the anime if they like it.

[Anonymous No.1216828]

Dreamcast's game library stopped after around 2003 (yes, there were games afterward but they are really obscure and infrequent). The rest of 6th Gen continued on for a long time. Enabling discussion of them would allow discussion of games that are still beloved on /v/ and titles that aren't retro at all.

Disabling the discussion of 5th gen would return this board to /NINTENDO/ since Sega fanboys are very rare on this board but Nintendo discussion has always (still with 5th gen) dominated this board. At least Sony kinda mixes it up from the usual Metroid, Zelda, Mario, etc threads over and over.

[Anonymous No.1216845]

>>1216291
Consoles as Plural.

I consider 360 7th gen, but that first year it was out was not the begining of 7th gen.

[Anonymous No.1216849]

>>1216762
That's a hell of an improvement over the original.

[Anonymous No.1216850]

>>1216845

mega drive was out a year before the snes

ps1 was out two years before the n64...

very few console launches are synced by year

[Anonymous No.1216851]

The ps1 had new games until 2005, ban it too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_Football_2005

[Anonymous No.1216848]

>>1216845
Actually it was. It was the first 7th gen console, thus it started the 7th gen.

[Anonymous No.1216857]

so when can i talk about the gba, that died quickly too

[Anonymous No.1216862]

Awww yeaah. We can finally have serious Sonic Adventure 1-2 discussions without the fur-fags from /v/.

Hopefully.

[Anonymous No.1216861]

>>1216857
When can we just turn this place into /v/ completely?

[Anonymous No.1216867]

>>1216861

i was asking a serious question jerk

[Anonymous No.1216864]

>>1216828
>>1216828
the only reason nintendo dominates is because most people here are filthy fucking casuals who dont bother to try anything else. also the janitor is a filthy fucking faggot who censors anything antinintendo

[Anonymous No.1216865]

>>1216861
in 15 years
though the posting style is nearly there

[Anonymous No.1216872]

>>1216862
Not all of it:
>>1216376

[Anonymous No.1216875]

>>1216857

>GBA
>Died quickly

Nigga u wot?

[Anonymous No.1216870]

>>1216606
I got a bit confused and overlooked the Sonic part since I was looking which visual novels had been released for Dreamcast.
http://vndb.org/v/all?q=&fil=lang-en.plat-drc

[Anonymous No.1216880]

>>1216875
it had 3 years before the DS was out and about another 3 years of sporadic game releases after that

[Anonymous No.1216881]

>>1216872

Who honestly gives a shit that you can't discuss DX and Battle? They didn't add shit to the games so you can simply just discuss the actual base games instead. What's the issue?

[Anonymous No.1216884]

>>1216598
Dude he asked me about it since there's a clear picture of it in my games here
>>1216583

[Anonymous No.1216885]

>>1216881
>They didn't add shit to the games

You didn't play them at all, did you?

[Anonymous No.1216882]

>>1216880

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Game_Boy_Advance_games

I want you to look at this list very very closely and see where you're retarded at.

[Anonymous No.1216886]

>>1216885

I did, if you think there are humongous differences in those games, then you're either a moron or full blown Sonic cosplayer. The core games are exactly the fucking same.

[Anonymous No.1216892]

the dreamcast is literally the retro game machine ever!!!!

[Anonymous No.1216898]

>>1216882
Yeah I'm not seeing a problem

[Anonymous No.1216893]

>>1216886

he... he can't discuss chao if u ban battle! ^_^

[Anonymous No.1216907]

Dreamcast should have been allowed from the fucking get-go. Copypasta filled with objective facts for you idiots whining "M-MUH PS2"

The Dreamcast's entire lifespan was contained within the lifespan of those 5th generation systems, and it was discontinued before the Nintendo 64 and PlayStation left the market.

The extent of the Dreamcast's presence in the sixth generation was a mere 5 months and 6 days (October 26th, 2000 to March 30th, 2001), during which it was still being manufactured and was available for purchase at the same time as the PlayStation 2.

To put this into context, the Nintendo 64 shared the market with the PlayStation 2 for 3 years, 1 month, and 5 days (from October 26th, 2000 to November 30th, 2003). The PlayStation shared the market with its successor for 6 years, 2 months, and 5 days (from October 26th, 2000 to December 31st, 2006).

To demonstrate the Dreamcast's lack of presence during the sixth generation of consoles further, the percentage of the PS2's lifespan during which the Dreamcast was also available for purchase is a mere 3.4% (it was available for 155 of the 4545 days the PlayStation 2 was on the market).

In comparison, the Dreamcast was present for 13.7% of the PlayStation's lifespan (568 of 4161 days), and 21.7% of the Nintendo 64's lifespan (568 of 2618 days).

The Dreamcast was discontinued prior to the launch of both the Xbox and the GameCube in all territories, not just North America. But because this email is focused primarily on the North American dates, the following data is relevant:

The Xbox launched in North America 7 months and 16 days after the Dreamcast was discontinued (Dreamcast was discontinued March 30th, 2001; Xbox launched November 15th, 2001).

[Anonymous No.1216913]

>>1216907
The GameCube launched in North America 7 months and 19 days after the Dreamcast was discontinued (Dreamcast was discontinued March 30th, 2001; GameCube launched November 18th, 2001).

As such, we can definitively say that the Dreamcast was present for 0% of the GameCube's and Xbox's lifespan.

By looking at the period of time during which the Dreamcast was being manufactured and made available, we can clearly say that the Dreamcast has very little in common with the PlayStation 2 and nothing in common with the GameCube and Xbox, in that people were not playing Dreamcast games at the same time that they were playing other 6th generation systems, except for the (less than half a year) overlap between the Dreamcast and PlayStation 2 (which it overlapped with less than the Nintendo 64 and PlayStation did).

Because the initial rule of /vr/ prior to the inclusion of a rule to specifically exclude the Dreamcast (which is irrelevant to this discussion, as the only purpose of its existence is to exclude the Dreamcast in the face of all fact) is centered around the year 1999 or prior, and the Dreamcast falls within this requirement (it was released on November 27th, 1998 in Japan, September 9th, 1999 in North America, October 14th, 1999 in Europe, and November 30th, 1999 in Australia; these all fall within the bounds of this rule), we can determine the Dreamcast to be a retro console.

Although the rule solely concerns hardware, the amount of time software was being produced also paints a clear picture of the period of time during which people were enjoying Dreamcast games, and as such may be considered relevant.

[Anonymous No.1216917]

>>1216907
>>1216913
The Dreamcast shared 118 of its games with other systems, including the PC. Because the 1999 rule goes only by console launch dates, the following data will only be concerned with Dreamcast games that were available on other consoles.

In determining which generation the Dreamcast shared the majority of its library with, it is important to distinguish what is and is not a multiplat.

A multiplatform game is a game that was in development for multiple consoles simultaneously, and released on those consoles at or around the same time. As such, games that were developed by Sega and were Dreamcast exclusives during its lifespan can automatically be barred from being considered multiplatform titles, as they were in development for only the Dreamcast, and were ported to other systems after their initial planned release and after the discontinuation of the Dreamcast hardware. Games that were released on other platforms 2 or more years after the Dreamcast version was released also cannot be considered multiplatform games, because they were not planned for release across multiple platforms at the same time. They can be considered ports of Dreamcast games, released after the Dreamcast had already been discontinued. The difference between ports and multiplatform releases is an important distinguishment to make, and understanding that difference, we can move forward with the following data.

The Dreamcast shared 51 multiplatform releases with 5th generation consoles.

It shared 23 multiplatform releases with 6th generation consoles.

Of the 51 games the Dreamcast shared with the 5th generation, 15 of those games were released on the Dreamcast first.

And of the 51 games the Dreamcast shared with the 5th generation, each and every one of those games is considered retro if being discussed on any platform other than the Dreamcast, despite being the exact same game released at roughly the same time.

[Anonymous No.1216919]

>>1216907
>>1216913
Because of this, we can clearly see that the Dreamcast's library overlapped much more (over two times as many multiplatform releases were 5th generation games compared to 6th generation releases), and that people were playing Dreamcast during the latter portion of the 5th generation of consoles' lifespans.

Looking at the last games released across the Dreamcast's peer consoles, we also see that the last Dreamcast game was released before the last Nintendo 64 and PlayStation games were released.

NHL 2K2, the last official Dreamcast game to be released in North America, was released on February 14th, 2002. This is 5 months and 4 days earlier than the last Nintendo 64 release (Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 on August 20th, 2002) and a full 2 years, 7 months, and 26 days before the last PlayStation release (FIFA Soccer 2005 on October 12th, 2004).

From this data, we can clearly see that not only was the window of time during which the Dreamcast was being manufactured and sold contained within the bounds of its fifth generation contemporaries, but we can also clearly see that the window of time during which its software was available is also contained within the lifespan of the fifth generation consoles.

In both hardware and software lifespans, the Dreamcast existed and was played at the same time as the Nintendo 64 and PlayStation.

It was available at the same time as another sixth generation console for only 5 months and 6 days, and was discontinued prior to the launch of the other sixth generation consoles, definitively marking it as not in competition with the sixth generation consoles.

[Anonymous No.1216924]

Dat ILLBLEED

Would have been nice to have DC for Halloween.

[Anonymous No.1216945]

>>1216898

>>1216898

>games from 2003-2007
>had SP after to continue the life of the system
>DC had games from 99-02 (with honest to god infrequent obscure games reaching the system, unlike what you referred to the GBA getting)

Now does it make sense?

[Anonymous No.1216961]

>>1216919
I swear, defining video game "generations" is like taking the Zelda timeline seriously. Each company's consoles were made completely independent of any other company's consoles, and trying to retroactively group them into categories is just messy.

[Anonymous No.1216995]

>>1216732
Tell that to the jaded systematic Botanist's standardizing to Cronquist.


Any way I love Rez. Awesome game.
And now you guys can talk about Half Life!

[Anonymous No.1216997]

>>1216995
>And now you guys can talk about Half Life!

seriously kill yourself

[Anonymous No.1217015]

>>1216997
Sorry I miss spoke, a console version of Half Life!

Or do you prefer the console version of Blue Shift?

[Anonymous No.1217031]

Best thread ever made on /vr/.

[Anonymous No.1217038]

>>1216995
>And now you guys can talk about Half Life!
But we always could

[Anonymous No.1217071]

I'm happy that some of its good games got ported to modern platforms, but it devalued the console's library by a bit. The Xb*x has almost non-existent emulation and VERY few re-releases, so it seems a bit more elusive for this reason.

(Censored the console we aren't supposed to discuss. I only used as an example. Don't ban me please.)

[Anonymous No.1217073]

lol mod having a ball in this thread

[Anonymous No.1217085]

>>1216882

tons of bad NA exclusive shovelware titles =/= games

[Anonymous No.1217093]

>>1216945

you're incorrect, dreamcast had games released long after that

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triggerheart_Exelica

[Anonymous No.1217098]

>>1216295
No, please fuck off.
The DC barely fit in with the generation it came out in and died quickly.
This is the limit, nothing else after it should be retro.

[Anonymous No.1217104]

>>1217098
Please report and ignore troll and bait posts.

Keep /vr/ clean.

[Anonymous No.1217113]

>>1217098
>This is the limit, nothing else after it should be retro.
You will get old and die.

Before that happens, probably around 2020, /vr/ will most definitely be home to the rest of the sixth generation. Unless moot comes to his senses and deletes all the /v/ splinters before that time.

[Anonymous No.1217116]

>>1217093

You're incorrect, DC had very few games after 2002 and they were either unlicensed or weird ass licensed shooters.

>>1217085

Too bad most of those aren't. And the fact is that it is 200 fucking 3 through at worst 2006. That isn't retro at all.

[Anonymous No.1217125]

>>1217116

you know significantly less about this than you want me to believe

[Anonymous No.1217130]

>>1217113
I should have worded that to, nothing else after it should be retro, for now. Even 5th gen consoles outlasted the DC, so I don't see why the other 6th gen consoles have to be considered retro right now.

[Anonymous No.1217131]

>>1217125

Look at the GBA list. If you think that is retro you are a moron.

And if you're talking about DC, yeah I'm sure developers were cranking games out for DC after it was discontinued in 2002. The games that were released after that point were either already finished in production or unlicensed weird shit or shooters. Period.

[Anonymous No.1217151]

>>1217131

it's better to check gamefaqs, most wikipedia lists are not complete

[Anonymous No.1217162]

>>1217151

If anything that strengthens my assessment that it went on from 2001-who the fuck knows when. DC was dead in 2001, so why exactly should the GBA be at all retro?

[Anonymous No.1217170]

>>1217093
NES had a game released in 2010, what's your point?

[Anonymous No.1217251]

So, now we finally have the DC allowed, I have a revolutionary idea:

LET'S DISCUSS THE FUCKING DREAMCAST! This thread is nearly completly meta-shit. No, it's not about people seriously considering amecube, PS2 etc. like a slippery slope. It's people discussing the POSSIBILITY of the slippery slope of people considering the Gamecube and PS2 while these were clearly released after the end of 1999.... It's like meta-meta...
Why don't you piss off and let the DC fans do what they fought and waited for the whole time: DICUSS THE DAMN CONSOLE AND ITS GAMES...

[Anonymous No.1217262]

>>1217251
Report the dramaposts. Seriously


What is your favorite DC game?

[Anonymous No.1217265]

>>1217251

Want DC talk? Go to another thread, m80. There was another general around, or maybe you can make a thread specific to a game you like. This is the dumping ground--let it stay that way until it purges.

The butthurt will subside eventually. Just remember to treat /vr/ like you always have: Be as civil as possible, always stay on vidya, and report AND IGNORE shitposters.

[Anonymous No.1217274]

>>1217262

Rez

[Anonymous No.1217323]

>>1216583
How pissed were you when the Dreamcast was discontinued so quickly?

[Anonymous No.1217337]

NO TIME TO TAKE A BATH

[Anonymous No.1217421]

>>1217323
It was quite a few years, but I was still sad. It was no surprise after 32x and Sega CD and Saturn, just another repeat of the pattern of being too early to market and too awesome to live. I was surprised they got out of consoles but their arcade machines continued to be fantastic successors. That's definitely not /vr/ talk though.

[Anonymous No.1217430]

Attention, whiners: Study up on your goddamn logical fallacies.

[Anonymous No.1217431]

so my old buddy was adamant about everyone washing their hands before playing on his DC

[Anonymous No.1217603]

>>1216295

I'd say it depends on when it came out. The Dreamcast is retro but the NGC, Xbox, and PS2 won't be retro for two or three more years

[op No.1217767]

>>1216291
This. If they finally get the stick out of their asses and allow the remaining 6th gen systems, I'll never have to go to /v/ again.

[Anonymous No.1217770]

>>1217767
>op
Ugh, forgot to delete the name field.

[Anonymous No.1217810]

What I've learned from this thread is that if you complain to moot enough and email him enough, he'll do whatever you want.

Gonna go email moot until we can discuss the PS2. What I would give to talk about FreeMCBoot here.

[Anonymous No.1217852]

Is it just me or is Bomberman Online the hardest Bomberman game? The AI is smarter than before and they put you alone against like 5 guys in the later stages! You gotta beat 5 guys who can easily trap you? Good fucking grief this is too tough for me.

[Anonymous No.1217879]

Holy fuck, it happened? Bout damn time.

Anyway, what's a good RPG to play for the Dreamcast? I've played Grandia II and the Evolution series and enjoyed the fuck out of them. Played Time Stalker but just couldn't bring myself to finish it, and I don't really have any way to play Skies of Arcadia right now, although getting a copy for my DC is very high on my list. I started E.G.G. but got distracted and ended up putting it to the side indefinitely.

Anyway, any recs for some nice lesser known RPGs for the DC?

Also, how bout that Segagaga translation project eh?

[Anonymous No.1217882]

>>1216435
>Dreamcast still has games coming out for it in 2013
Links?

[Anonymous No.1217898]

>>1217882
Think he's referring to Sturmwind. You can see a video of it here. http://www.thunderboltgames.com/feature/the-dreamcast-games-of-2013

[Anonymous No.1217913]

ITT: People who consider Dreamcast 6th generation when it suits them.

[Anonymous No.1218040]

>>1217882
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_commercially_released_independently_developed_Dreamcast_games

[Anonymous No.1218093]

>>1216448
Why are you bringing up bullshit release dates? That only applies to PC games. Dreamcast/playstation/etc games can be from 2000 all they want, or 2001 or whatever.

[Sir Mr Bond !77j9ClFJEk No.1218107]

so what dreamcast games you guys own?

[Anonymous No.1218110]

>>1216291
I've always considered the year or cycle or 'group' of a consoles release to be the determining factor of whether or not a console is 'retro'. For me it's 2 cycles/gens behind being that There's usually a 5-8 year lifespan for a console, that's a 10-16 year gap. Imo the PS2 is entering its retro-hood.

[Sir Mr Bond !77j9ClFJEk No.1218116]

>>1218107
so far i have, crazy taxi 1 and 2, roadsters, pod, testdrive 6, HYDRO THUNDER, tokyo xtreme racer, nfl 2k1, nba 2k1, baseball 2k1, virtua tennis, tennis 2k2, sega marine and bass fishin', mat hoffman's pro bmx, razor freestyle scooter, xtreme sports, jet grind radio, rippin riders, trick style, armada, centipede, starlancer, coaser works, toy commander, dynamite cop, resident evil 2, who wants to beat up a millionaire, raindobw six, sonic adventure 1&2, ecco, rayman 2, blue stinder (jap version), tomb raider the last rev, powerstone, powerstone 2, mortal kombat gold, tech romancer, solder of fortune, stawars demotion, spawn, sega smash pack. doa 2, slave zero, sonic shuffle,gigawing 2, worms world party.

[Anonymous No.1218118]

>>1216583
>those jewel cases
How glad are you that you don't have to deal with dumb Euro cases for your games?

[Anonymous No.1218120]

Got this coming to me in the mail. Pretty excited, seeing as I missed out on the DC when I was younger. I don't even like Sakura Wars, just wanted it to be pink!

[Anonymous No.1218123]

>>1218120
How much did it cost?

[Anonymous No.1218125]

>>1218123

Too much. That and I live in Australia so I get shafted on shipping.

[Sir Mr Bond !77j9ClFJEk No.1218129]

what controllers do you guys have?

[Anonymous No.1218253]

Does this mean we can talk about old Bemani titles?

[Anonymous No.1218309]

Aye sweet, its now allowed here.

Be wary to eye off the GDrom emulator, no more laser problems/calibration/etc

[Anonymous No.1218315]

>>1217913
It's ridiculous right? There is no changing the fact that the Dreamcast is a 6th generation console.
If you ask me, I think we should cut the generation crap altogether and talk about systems released before 1999. The Dreamcast fits that criteria while the other 6th generation systems do not.

[Anonymous No.1218318]

>>1218315
Second. I'm a proud DC owner and would like to see it discussed, but it's Sixth Generation. Saturn is the Fifth Generation offering from Sega.

If we want DC discussed, we should do as this man says and talk about systems released before 1999. This avoids the "slippery slope" as well.

[Anonymous No.1218362]

>>1218129
3 Standard, 1 clear Black, and 1... I'm not sure what it is, but it's awful. It's a third party controller with a ball in stead of the stick, 6 face buttons (alternate L and R), and the buttons stick out a good quarter inch, so it feels really weird pressing in giant buttons. Pretty sure it's bigger than the console itself. No idea why I keep it around...

Also have the keyboard and mouse! Sadly lacking the lightgun.

[Anonymous No.1218392]

>>1218107
My collection's still pretty small due to lack of a job for a good while.

Currently, I have
Crazy Taxi
Evolution: World of Sacred Device
Evolution 2: Far Off Promise
Expendable
Grandia II
Mortal Kombat Gold
Shenmue
Soul Calibur
Star Wars Episode 1 Pod Racing
Time Stalkers

I plan on getting a copy of SoA next. I really really want/need to play that.

[Anonymous No.1218394]

>>1218129
2 standard and an agetec arcade stick.

[Anonymous No.1218446]

NBA2K series for dreamcast was the most fun i ever had playing sports game. Sonic was pretty damn good. Was disappointed by shenmue. Was blown away by Skies of Arcadia. Loved the dreamcast.

[Anonymous No.1218463]

>>1218129
A white one, a white one, a white one, a white one, a gun (Sega) and some shitty third party fishing controller

[Anonymous No.1218571]

>>1218118
I dunno I do think unique cases are kind of cool. I like longbox games. I love my Dreamcast games though.

[Anonymous No.1218652]

i have way more than this now this is all stuff i bought when it was still around.
also dreamcast mouse/keyboard + 2 lightguns.

[Anonymous No.1218731]

>>1218652
Shit is THAT what PAL Dreamcast cases look like? Fuck that.

[Anonymous No.1218734]

>>1218129

2 white, 2 black. Two each to match each DC.

(now if only the old white one worked right)

[Anonymous No.1218739]

So does anyone know roundabout what a good price is on a dreamcast?

I found a nice one ebay for 35 bucks + 11 in shipping (I realize that shipping is much too high but 46 altogether still seems pretty good). Comes with chords, 2 controllers, and a regular memory card (ie not VMU). Didn't care about getting games with it because I already have a bunch for it, just no console to play it on.

Did I get burned or did I do okay?

[Anonymous No.1218743]

>>1217879

I recommend Record of Lodoss War though it's sort of a Diablo clone hack and slash RPG rather than a traditional JRPG.

[Anonymous No.1218748]

>>1218739
That's not a bad price at all with a couple controllers and a memory card.

[Anonymous No.1218757]

>>1218748

That makes me feel good. I could have spent 10 bucks less on a more "abused" console but lots of scuff marks and bad aesthetics bother me more than it should.

[Anonymous No.1218759]

Ugh. Instead of actually being able to discuss dreamcast, we get a bunch of faggots arguing was is and isn't retro enough to be discussed on this board. Kill yourself, you stupid fucks.

[Anonymous No.1218761]

>>1218759
And then there's those who don't know what the fuck "retro" means anymore.

[Anonymous No.1218763]

>>1218731
Actually they tend to look more like this.

[Anonymous No.1218770]

Hello Kitty DC is best DC.

[Sir Mr Bond !77j9ClFJEk No.1218786]

>>1218770
i need that

[Sir Mr Bond !77j9ClFJEk No.1218790]

>>1218763
It would be cool, if it wasn't broken.

[Anonymous No.1218858]

The Dreamcast was my first console. I only bought it because I wanted to play Sonic Adventure (and later, 2). Got a few other games for it but really nothing else stuck out for me.

Eventually got the Coders Cable and a Lan Adapter to play around with development and ripping for it, though I soon realized trying to develop for a console using a hacked together development kit wasn't the best idea in the world, so I mainly just used it to tinker about and hack game data. A little box I could hack... it was great!

In general, I loved the Dreamcast despite it technically being the worst sixth gen console.

[Anonymous No.1218865]

>>1218858
>despite it technically being the worst sixth gen console.
Best processor and graphical engine, along with great ports and a bitchin' memory card. The only reason people say "the Dreamcast lost" was because all that was left were the people on the Sonytrain or the Nintendo boat.

[Anonymous No.1218880]

>>1218739
I usually say anywhere from 40 to 50 with a controller and memory card is a good deal. I'd say you got a pretty good deal.

[Anonymous No.1219130]

fuck no,if we allow PS2,XBox and Gamecube we might get kiddies feeling nostalgia for Kingdom hearts and Halo
fuck that,5th gen and below are only allowed and fuck you Dcfags,fuck you in the ass

[Anonymous No.1219136]

Report and ignore.

[Anonymous No.1219440]

>>1219136
>report
Enjoy your b& for false report.

[Anonymous No.1219484]

The way I see it is any console based on DVD tech isn't retro. That's the line.

With DVD tech also came other developments which have more in common with gaming today than the dreamcast ever did

Hard drives, broadband gaming, networks like XBL & PSN

[Anonymous No.1219501]

My Dreamcast restarted randomly. I follow those guides on the net for cleaning up the contacts on the power board. Now my DC wont continue past logo...

Help me /vr/

[Anonymous No.1219507]

>>1219130
>hating Kingdom Hearts
[get a load of this guy cam]

[Anonymous No.1219510]

I personally want to see the DC included into this board. I'd also like to see the PS2/GC/Xbox. Because we could have intelligent discussion. I'd rather have those get talked about then see the same fucking: Doom, Dragon Quest, Kirby, CRT, "How To Hold Your Controller" , "Look at my collection" and SNES emulation threads. Jesus fucking Christ, I hate coming here because I feel like you cunts never start a NEW conversation. It's like you all have altimeters and forget what we were talking about and just start building lists of "great genesis games" someone who just bought a console NEEDS to buy. So lets move on, talk about new stuff, because Doom threads aren't fun anymore

[Anonymous No.1219515]

The person above is a notorious shitposter. Do not respond to his posts.

[Anonymous No.1219536]

>>1219510
This is my main problem with "retro" gaming, Games from before ~2000 aren't being made anymore Due to it being impossible so new content is so hard to come by.

[Anonymous No.1219568]

>>1219536
>so new content is so hard to come by.

You'd think so, but older ROMs and ISOs are still being translated. Not to mention the only games that have been "talked to death" on /vr/ are Mario, Zelda, FF, DQ, DOOM (kinda, modding gives it life), etc.

There are a ton of games out there that don't get a whole lot of talk here. Hell, I still find new games to play every now and then.

Just got to explore a bit, and not be afraid to run into a few clunkers.

[Anonymous No.1219618]

>>1219510
>I'd also like to see the PS2/GC/Xbox.
Not created before 99 therefore not retro.
>Because we could have intelligent discussion.
lol

[Anonymous No.1219842]

>>1216314
XBox was pretty much stopped around the same time the 360 came out., about 2005 or 2006.

[Anonymous No.1219850]

>>1216378
Because next thing you know, once the gays get married the pedophiles will be raping horses

[Anonymous No.1219868]

>>1219536
New content is everywhere you plebs just ignore it. There are hardly any mame threads you are missing out on some of the best games in the era you dont need more discuss you just need to delve further into whats there.

[Anonymous No.1219876]

>dreamcast is allowed now
fuck yeah, guess I'm gonna be a /vr/ regular again

[Sir Mr Bond !77j9ClFJEk No.1220164]

>>1219876
same, It should be /dc/ now

[Anonymous No.1220183]

>>1219484
DVD players themselves can be considered a retro platform. They were launched before 2000 and haven't dramatically changed like PCs.
Their use for games is obviously limited but there were still some interactive movies and similar produced for them.

DVD wasn't as much of a game changer than CD.
The Dreamcast was a pioneer for online capabilities in consoles with its build in modem.

[Anonymous No.1220227]

>>1220183
>The Dreamcast was a pioneer for online capabilities in consoles with its build in modem.

It wasn't built-in, it plugged into the extension port.

[Anonymous No.1220248]

>>1220227
It came with the modem though

[Anonymous No.1220250]

Is it possible to create a custom PSO server where all of us can play?

[Anonymous No.1220254]

>>1219130
Ok babe. When and where do you wanna fuck my booty?

[Anonymous No.1220256]

>>1220248
It's a default accessory. Saying it's built in means it's not removable.

[Anonymous No.1220272]

>>1220256
The engine of a car is a default accessory then, since they can be removed and replaced as a whole.

[Anonymous No.1220273]

>>1220272
Can you remove the engine of a car by pushing a tab with one finger?

[Saten meta whiner No.1220273,1]

/vr/ janny steamin

[Anonymous No.1221289]

>>1216924
My negro
Why not actually talk about vidya rather than continue to bitch?

[Anonymous No.1221445]

>>1220250
Is Dreamcast online still active?

Do people still play PSO?

Holy shit, that's cool if its true

[Anonymous No.1221449]

>>1221445
>Is Dreamcast online still active?
Nope.

>Do people still play PSO?
On private servers.

[Anonymous No.1221458]

>>1221449
dreamcast online is still active. just not on official servers.

[Anonymous No.1221459]

>>1221445
http://www.schtserv.com/

If playing on Dcast or Gamecube, you need a broadband adapter. In addition if you are using a Dcast, you need to have one that can boot backups, usually a Mil-CD compatible system (earlier models, V1). For the Gamecube you need a modchip or some way of running burned games.

[Anonymous No.1221481]

I'd like if the 6th generation in it's entirety be allowable to discuss on this board, but I can be patient. The 8th generation has just begun. I grew up with the 6th generation, but I still appreciate, love, and collect games from previous generations and this place is one of the best places to discuss it.

All I'm saying is that when or if 6th generation games are allowed to be discussed on this board, it'd be the best board on 4chan, hands down.

[Anonymous No.1221487]

Recently purchased my friends Dreamcast collection, I'm happy because it was one of the few mainstay consoles I hadn't played much of.
Console, 4 controllers, 2 vmu
Sonic Adventure
Sonic Adventure 2
Crazy Taxi
Crazy Taxi 2
Samba de Amigo with maracas
House of the Dead 2 with lightgun
Skies of Arcadia
Shenmue
Grandia II
Jet Grind Radio
San Fransisco Rush 2049
Resident Evil: Code Veronica
Phantasy Star Online
Virtua Tennis

For $200 I think I made out well.

[Anonymous No.1221528]

>>1221487
good games dont forget you can just copy most games on CDR too

[Forte SWN-001 No.1221535]

>>1221487
I took the cheap way out with my dreamcast, got lucky and got a model 1, burned most of my games, need to burn a new gameshark (or was it AR) demo disc to bypass region lock so I can play my copy of SRW @, which is one of the three games I actually spent money on(rise from the ashes, SA2, and SRW @)

really gonna hate seeing PS2 allowed on /vr/ just because the inevitable shitstorms it will bring, but that's aside from the point

[Anonymous No.1221560]

didn't DC support bump maps, and PS2 couldn't support them?

[Anonymous No.1221598]

>>1221560
yeah shenmue 2 has a couple bumpmaps ingame, one of those is some token you get for a secret or something so most people wouldnt see it anyway.

[Anonymous No.1221641]

I have a Dreamcast and all I ever play are Shenmue 1 and 2, mostly just 2. But I did enjoy it, back in the day.

[Anonymous No.1221646]

>>1221598
speaking of shenmue i love how the music goes from

FFFFuuck epic http://youtu.be/vZxNDZ0qkIo

to

wait what fuck what
http://youtu.be/uoaPHNmYZxQ
http://youtu.be/lsibwSkp0as

[Sir Mr Bond !77j9ClFJEk No.1221657]

>>1220273
you can do that with the battery

[Anonymous No.1221664]

Dreamcast had a great PAL run, it was the first console to support 60 hz picture and this feature was in the vast majority of games. And VGA output too, oh my.

[Anonymous No.1221768]

>>1221598
Shenmue has some insane texture detail. The walls in the Yan Tin apartments are a great example of this.

The texture detail on later DC games like Shenmue 2, Skies of Arcadia, Quake III, and Outriggers, is on a par with XBox games, and way above PS2 games.

[Anonymous No.1221874]

>>1221646
>I'm gonna' punch you in the mouth!
>I'm gonna' punch you
>I'm gonna' punch you
>I'm gonna' punch
>I'm gonna' punch you in the mouth, yeah
>I'm gonna, I'm'a gonna' gonna' be Street Fighter

[Anonymous No.1222074]

>>1221459
>For the Gamecube you need a modchip or some way of running burned games.
lolwut That's not even remotely true. You just plug in someone's DNS redirect server into your custom server IPs in the connection settings (it's like SEGA was asking for this to be taken advantage of) and you're good to go.

[Anonymous No.1222278]

>>1216438
It's bloody glorious, ain't it?

[Anonymous No.1222284]

>>1216552
but
that's not the Xbox
Xbox is the spiritual successor to the Dreamcast. At one point, the Xbox was actually going to be able to play Dreamcast games, but discussions between MS and Sega fell through.

[Anonymous No.1222287]

>>1216601
why do you have a stick up your bum?
>>1216583
Where the fuck is Heavy Metal Geomatrix?you double Nintenyearold.

[Anonymous No.1222295]

>>1216624
>>1216628
blame the anti-dreamcast fags

[Anonymous No.1222302]

>>1216714
JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
GRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIND
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDDDIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
also crazy taxi

[Anonymous No.1222313]

>>1218116
what is that FW 190 doing to those poor dreamcasts?
at least I think it's a FW 190

[Anonymous No.1222315]

Not retro.

[Anonymous No.1222318]

>>1218757
>what is magic eraser
Even so, you got a pretty decent deal. I got completely ripped off by a game store (60 dollars for a Dreamcast with a dead internal battery, 1 controller and the cords). Jokes on them, I rescued a Satun from those fucks for $40 though it's a model 2
Eventually I managed to get a pretty good bundle deal on a Sega Sports Dreamcast with box, Shenmue, Seaman CIB, Shemune 2 with strat guide on xbawx, and a ton of other shit for 190.

[Anonymous No.1222324]

>>1218770
I'm sorry, I can't hear you
too bad the only one for sale on ebay is overpriced

[Anonymous No.1222341]

Why would anyone want to discuss the DreamCast?

It's a piece of shit with literally NO playable games. Bicker all you want about which generation it is, but this much is fact.

[Anonymous No.1222345]

>>1222315
elitist

[Anonymous No.1222350]

>>1222324
The controller looks OK I guess, but the console looks dumb with those colours. Reminds me of a Fisher Price toy or something.

[Anonymous No.1222356]

>>1222350
RX-78 Gundam Limited Edition Dreamcast. There's only 78 units in existence. Personally, I'd shell out dosh for a transparent blue shell replacement kit, except there aren't any blue ones, and the ones that are available on ebay are 100 dollars.

[Anonymous No.1222363]

does this make me cool y/n

[Anonymous No.1222368]

>>1222363

like watching a human bisection

[Anonymous No.1222365]

>>1222363
give me that blue dreamcast, if it still has the top shell

[Anonymous No.1222379]

>>1222324
I think that looks fucking incredible. Just seeing that sitting near my TV would make my heart flutter in the morning. I hope we get out of the "glossy black OR white only console design" age soon.

[Anonymous No.1222403]

>>1216750
lost my save file for arcadia legends, was abour 40 hours in

welp, never gonna finish that game

[Anonymous No.1222458]

>>1222365
Too late.
Clear+Blue case, broadband adaptor and sweet VGAout-scanline-make-you-coffee adaptor.
>feels good

[Anonymous No.1222664]

>>1216583
No Toy Commander?

[Anonymous No.1222665]

Anybody played the Grinch?

[Anonymous No.1222701]

fucking victory

the autistic assblastedness is so delicious, all hail the dreamcast

[Anonymous No.1222703]

>>1216579
I've got to admit, that is one sexily designed clone console. Much better design that the Retron 3, especially the front panel having all the controller ports instead of being fucktarded and having NES/Genesis ports on the side.

[Anonymous No.1222716]

>>1216714
>My sister wants to get her husband a Dreamcast and games.

Consider yourself lucky. My sister is a non-video gaming cunt whose boyfriend only has a PS3 and plays Uncharted and sports games. They're both Appledrones (the waiting-in-line-for-the-next-iphone kind) and they hate anime. Also, his mother is full Swedish.

Definitely recommend Power Stone and Soul Calibur, bro.

[Anonymous No.1223156]

>>1222458
sharp, damn.
and don't you LOVE the VGA out mod? damn its nice

[Anonymous No.1223441]

Well, the qualification of the Dreamcast is under shaky terms but I can finally come home to /vr/ like I always wanted...

[Anonymous No.1223451]

>>1222716
>people are different than me so they are shit

Sad that /vr/ is turning in to /v/

[Anonymous No.1223453]

>>1222341
You fucking casual trash, off this board.

(Yeah, we're turning into /v/.)

[Anonymous No.1223464]

>>1222341
>>>/v/ you asshat.

everyone should play zombie revenge, and rez for dreamcast is the best version.

[Anonymous No.1223468]

>>1223451
>giving retards attention

Report, ignore. hide.

[Anonymous No.1223470]

>>1216448
>Saturn
The DC's final official release was in 2006, broski.

[Anonymous No.1223471]

>>1222716
Your sister sounds hot, especially for hating anime. If you're over 13 you shouldn't be watching that shit anyway.

[Anonymous No.1223472]

>>1223470
Whoops, that >saturn was meant for a post in another thread.

[Anonymous No.1223481]

QUESTION

Is it possible to burn dreamcast games onto CD-RW rather than CD-R?

I haven't been able to find CD-Rs around the place. Where do you get them?

[Anonymous No.1223482]

>>1223481
Maybe, I never tried it. Give it a go.

[Anonymous No.1223489]

>>1223482
I was about to buy a DC earlier, but decided against it as I had no CD-Rs.

Got some CD-RWs in a music shop, but if I download shit onto them then get a DC and it doesn't work, I'm fucked.

Where do you buy CD-Rs?

[Anonymous No.1223490]

>>1223489
You can buy CD-R's just about anywhere that has an electronic department, like Walmart or Target, or any office supply store.

[Anonymous No.1223494]

>>1223490
Hmm okay I think I know a place I can get them.

From looking around forums, it seems you need to mod the DC to make it play CD-RWs.

Incidentally, does playing CD-Rs fuck up the laser?

[Anonymous No.1223497]

Where can I find an ISO for Gunlord and Sturmwind?

[Anonymous No.1223501]

>>1223494
People say that it causes it to seek more and wears out the laser faster. I don't know if that's true, or if it is to what extent.

[Anonymous No.1223530]

>>1223494
It depends on the structure of the image you're burning.

Newer images have been compiled in such a way that it seeks more like a normal Dreamcast game (with comparable load times).

Believe me, the DC is not a quiet console. If you've got an older rip that still uses outdated structures then you WILL notice (longer load times and a lot of laser seeking will be the consequences).

[Anonymous No.1223580]

>>1223576
In recent years I've struggled with it more than I used to.

DCIsoZone is a good place, I guess. Their stuff seems to be quality.

[Anonymous No.1223576]

>>1223530
How do you find newer rips then? Any sites worth mentioning for it?

I'm just afraid of buying a DC and bricking it within the first few weeks

[Anonymous No.1223628]

>>1223580
Do you mean The Iso Zone? Or is it a separate site?

[Anonymous No.1223652]

>>1223628
I think they're the same place, just with different front ends.

[Anonymous No.1223668]

So here's what I have on Dreamcast.

Sonic Adventure
Sonic Adventure 2
Sonic Shuffle
Soul Calibur
Chu Chu Rocket
Virtual On Oratario Tangram (personal favorite)
Gundam Side Story 0079
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3
Resident Evil Code Veronica
Marvel vs Capcom
Marvel vs Capcom 2
Hydro Thunder
Power Stone
Mortal Kombat Gold
Ikaruga (import)
REZ (import)
Dead or Alive 2
Phantasy Star Online
Ecco the Dolphin
Skies of Arcadia
Shenmue
Alone in the Dark: The New Nightmare
Grandia II
The House of the Dead 2
Virtua Cop 2 (import)
Macross M3 (import)

I'm always looking to expand my collection though, any recommendations? Is there a "recommended chart" like the Saturn has?

[Anonymous No.1223671]

>>1223576
Look for "DCRES" ISOs - although not every game is available in this set, any that are have been ripped very well. The original scene Crazy Taxi loaded so slowly it was unplayable if you were any way fast (I could get to the bottom of the hill before it loads the scenery).

There are torrents of the complete DCRES set on public trackers.

[Anonymous No.1223674]

>>1216764

Those are the ONLY games that they talk about on /v/ from time to time.

[Anonymous No.1223690]

>>1223671
Cheers, that's a great help!

One other thing, on /v/'s recommended games wiki, it mentions a silver label with a number on it, with 0 or 1 meaning it'll take burned disks, and 2 meaning it wont.

Is that the case? Any pics of what this label looks like?

[Anonymous No.1223696]

>>1223668
>that image
Shame there was no Digimon game on the DC. The damn VMUs would've been perfect for it.

[Anonymous No.1223756]

>>1218739

So my Dreamcast came today and all of my games work except for Sonic Adventure. I'm not greatly dismayed but my cousin is huge on sonic and when he comes over I wanted to let him try it out because he hasn't played it on the Dreamcast. The disc has a few scratches but not too bad, and when I play the "music" on track 2 it says that it is indeed a Dreamcast game and not to play the 1st track etc. You guys know any cleaning or fixing tips that might work or am I screwed?

[Anonymous No.1223769]

>>1223756
You could just burn another copy. I wouldn't suggest it normally since you actually bought the game, but if you just want to play it and you already bought it, no need to buy it a second time.

[Anonymous No.1223776]

So has anyone played Maken X?
>>1223756
Copies of Adventure are cheap. Just go pick up a disc only copy and replace it.

[Anonymous No.1223781]

>>1223696
holy shit Bandai could have made a killing on that. it would be awesome to see how they would implement the virtual pets into the game.

[Sir Mr Bond !77j9ClFJEk No.1223867]

>>1223668
tokyo xtreme racer one and two, very fun.

[Anonymous No.1223869]

>>1223776
I played a bit of it. Not sure how far I got, but it was a pretty interesting game and the controls work surprisingly well. I need to get around to playing it again.

[Anonymous No.1223873]

>>1223756
Might want to try cleaning the lense just in case. Get a cotton swab, put some alcohol on it, and go over the laser really lightly and let it dry.

Couldn't hurt to try.

[Anonymous No.1223928]

>>1223873

I just want to be sure, but by "alcohol" you mean isopropyl right? I just don't want to put the wrong stuff on my laser.

[Anonymous No.1223934]

>>1223928
IPA is ok for lenses, yes

[Anonymous No.1223938]

>>1223934

Cool. I'll give it a try a little later. Right now I want to hit up some Record of Lodoss War. Thanks for the help!

>>1223769
>>1223776

Thanks to you guys also.

[Anonymous No.1223960]

>>1223928
Yea, I mean Isoproply (rubbing alcohol)

[Anonymous No.1224154]

i can finally post my dreamcast games!

[Anonymous No.1224287]

>>1221768
yeah, the DC had texture decompression hardware built into the graphics chip, whereas you had to do it in software on the PS2.

[Anonymous No.1224305]

>>1223756

Well an update. Cleaned the laser and let it dry for more than enough time, still wont read. Guess I'll order another copy of it I'm just glad it was probably one of the cheapest games I have.

Thanks again for the advice guys.

[Anonymous No.1224310]

Only half related to the Dreamcast but here's some good news.

[Anonymous No.1224314]

>>1224305
those Sonic Adventure discs are a hit or a miss, I've found. I've gone through 3 of the bastards. 2 were dead on arrival, but I got lucky with the 3rd.

[Anonymous No.1224327]

>>1224310
Oh god, I would be so happy if JSRF got a rerelease...I hate pulling out my xbox just to play it.

[Anonymous No.1224653]

>No news on the Segagaga translation since september
>Translator makes no mention of it on Twitter, despite how active he is

Fuuuuuu.

[Anonymous No.1224674]

Anywhere I can buy this glorious fucker, or do I have to pirate it?

[Anonymous No.1224689]

only one more day to see if i won my bid on two dreamcasts, and a shitload of games/vmus/controllers/that fucking fishing rod controller fuck YES

[Anonymous No.1224729]

>>1216850
>mega drive was out a year before the snes
more like 2 years.

>>1221487
did you get it from a dude on craigslist in fayetteville nc? i know a guy that sold like a grand of shit for 200 bucks.

i hated that fucking Sega GT game. the physics engine was shit, unless you were on the games one and only racing line, you could be driving a GTR, and get lapped by a cappucino.

too bad Initial D arcade was based on the same engine.

that game was fucking broken as shit.

[Anonymous No.1224736]

>>1224674
That looks super ill, what's it called?

[Anonymous No.1224756]

>>1223776

That's actually the ONLY game I've been playing on my DC lately. Tough as nails, but really fun. Well, I've been playing Skies of Arcadia on my GC too, but that doesn't really count.

>tfw we can finally discuss SoA on /vr/

>>1224736

GUNLORD. Check out the CGR review. I need to buy Sturmwind too before it's all gone.

[Anonymous No.1224780]

>>1224689
>finishing rod controller
Good lord I had one of those and it was glorious.

Hours upon hours of fishing with the most incredible graphics for the time.

[Anonymous No.1224809]

>tfw I can't find my DC keyboard so I can't play typing of the dead

[Anonymous No.1225013]

>>1224154
...fine, I'll bite.

WHY do you have so many copies of Grandia II?

[Anonymous No.1225014]

>>1225013
SOMEBODY'S gotta buy 'em.

[Anonymous No.1225038]

>>1224780
Wasn't all that fishing games arcade style or maybe there was some simulation game on DC?

[Anonymous No.1225043]

All about dis gam right here.

MIKI MIKI BOOM BA, YEEEAAAH

[Anonymous No.1225050]

I have started collecting japanese dreamcast games

[Anonymous No.1225165]

Guys.

What if you stopped bitching and let there be a dreamcast thread. If the mods hate it enough, it will be deleted. If not you can just avoid it. There. Oh wait, this is /v/2.0, nevermind.

[Anonymous No.1225179]

>>1225165
>Oh wait, this is /v/2.0, nevermind.

Have you been reporting /v/ shit like you should? It sounds like you haven't.

[Anonymous No.1225442]

>>1225038
it was all super arcadey, but it was still super fun

[Anonymous No.1225456]

Ah, Dreamcast. The console that started my pirating rampage.

[Anonymous No.1225547]

>>1216425
>The Neo Geo is more PS1-gen then SNES-gen
In terms of technology, absolutely not.

[Anonymous No.1226396]

FINALLY GOT A DREAMCAST TODAY

Made fucking sure to get a 1, not a 2.

No memory cards, but I can sort that out later.

€50 from a shop here in Dublin- they specialise in vinyls and retro games. Bit pricier than I expected, but they really do pay attention to quality, and test the machine in front to you to make sure you're satisfied.

Plus, as I'm currently burning as we speak, I guess I won't be buying many games (though I must go back there, their retro stock has some serious gems).

Too bad I have so many college assignments tonight that I won't get to try it out

[Anonymous No.1226559]

/vr/ can finally appreciate this theme:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj7kupmzJlE

[Anonymous No.1226732]

So has anyone had sound issues with particular games? I have a near mint Midway's Greatest Arcade Classics 2 that gets lots of noise like severe static glitching noises. It's hard to explain but it just reminds me of a ripping or tearing sound like when the cart gets jiggled or something, but we're talking about a CD game here.

All my other games work fine and to be honest all the games on that disc like Gauntlet can be easily played in MAME but it worries me that really good games I get in the future might do this as well.

Pic unrelated to my problem above, but on a minor note I picked up this pad for 2 dollars at a yard sale. Works great for Soul Calibur.

[Anonymous No.1226769]

>>1216291
Every so often all the major players don't release consoles at the same time and the "generation" thing doesn't line up. Like the Wii-U, which is actually Nintendos late attempt to join the 7th generation. PCE and Saturn don't line up either, both being released well ahead of anything else in the generation they're classified in.

[Anonymous No.1226779]

>Dead or Alive
>jiggle physics

My dick was raw for the first week I had that game. I couldn't wait to get home from school to beat off furiously to Kasumi.

[Anonymous No.1226796]

>>1218739
Ain't a bad price, but not special. I waited and got lucky, getting my Dreamcast with the cords (RFU adapter instead of composite cables, but that's no problem for me), two controllers, two VMUs, a four in one memory card, and a rumble pak for under $30.
Also: chords

>>1218880
That's an average deal - not good.

[Anonymous No.1226805]

I love Virtuaroids.

[Anonymous No.1226820]

>>1223668
Confidential Mission
Twinkle Star Sprites
Jet Grind Radio
Space Channel #5
Worms Armageddon

http://vsrecommendedgames.wikia.com/wiki/Dreamcast
It's shit now, people edit it who shouldn't, etc etc

[Anonymous No.1226862]

>>1224689
how much do the official fishing rod controllers go for?

[Anonymous No.1226869]

>>1226820
I find that the older, non-Nintendo platforms tend to be free of leddit edits

[Anonymous No.1226873]

>>1226796
Says the guy who lives in fucking lala land. Don't know where you're getting all that shit for $30, but it certainly ain't normal.

[Anonymous No.1226878]

>>1226862
The local store by me had one for a little less than $20.

>>1226873
I got a GREAT price. You can get a Dreamcast with a controller and a memory card for $45 pretty easily. Like I said, not a bad price, but nothing special.

[Sir Mr Bond !77j9ClFJEk No.1227009]

>>1226559
fuck man that sounds like crush 40.

[Anonymous No.1227032]

I always buy those fishing rod controllers when I see them. Fishing rod, projector, Get Bass!

It's a day on the lake in my basement.

[Anonymous No.1227040]

Has anyone ever played this? It seemed kinda interesting when I saw it on the shelves long ago but I never gave it a shot.

[Sir Mr Bond !77j9ClFJEk No.1227041]

>>1227040
hmm, I want to get incoming, i had it but it broken when my dreamcast fell of my dresser.

[Anonymous No.1227150]

>>1227040
had to admit their design was kinda love-hate. but the gameplay is good, it's like playing zelda but 80% of the time you're in an egg shaped mech, blasting things. Boss fight are in full 3d but the normal gameplay is not, weird.

[Anonymous No.1227273]

>>1227040

Shit, I got that in the mail about a week ago.

I've been putting off popping it in.

[Anonymous No.1227345]

>>1222318
>a Dreamcast with a dead internal battery
Speaking of, any clue on how to replace those things? I've got two Dreamcasts that I have long-since tired of constantly reinserting date/time on. Or worse, resetting right in the middle of a session of Grandia II or anything that I play for more than an hour.

[Anonymous No.1227353]

>>1227345
either a) suck it up and buy a replacement Dreamcast battery and solder it in
b) solder in a 2-AA battery pack and put in low mAH (or high mAH, it doesn't matter, I pulled mine from solar lights) NiMH cells.

[Anonymous No.1227375]

>>1227353
Works for me. Second suggestion noted. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.1227453]

>>1227345
eh so, let me just ask this:

I got that clock reset from forever. Its always asking for clock. I just ignore them.

But recently,I got a dreamcast constantly on boot loop. I checked the power supply, not bulges on capacitors. I tried to clean the Power supply contacts, but still no avail.

I ran out of ideas, so, just maybe, replacing the batteries could fix my old beloved?

[Anonymous No.1227725]

>>1227009
It definitely has Jun Senoue's style signature.

[Anonymous No.1227758]

>>1216321
What am I looking at? Development kits?

[Anonymous No.1227769]

>>1223668
They can connect?!

[Anonymous No.1227819]

>all dem homebrews and gaems on ps2 you could have discussed right now on /vr/.
>ps2 what? pffft nah bro dreamcast has waay more gaems and it's waaay more retro!

t-thanks mods.

[Anonymous No.1227879]

>>1227819
Nice job not understanding the situation.

[Anonymous No.1227898]

>>1227879
What's the situation from your perspective?

[Anonymous No.1227906]

>>1227819
>someone made a homebrew game for a colecovision or atari in the last 3 years
>that means those consoles are still current gen and not retro, remove threads remove threads

[Anonymous No.1227908]

>>1227769
How did you not know this? You can play some VMU games with two players, and you can swap save files.

Problem is, the bastards drink CR2032 cells dry in days, so buying batteries for them is NOPE.

[Anonymous No.1227928]

>>1227879

Just because dreamcast flopped as 6th gen console doesn't mean its "retro" now. If dreamcast is allowed, the rest of 6th gen should be allowed too.

[Anonymous No.1227935]

>>1227928
Totally.

[Anonymous No.1227936]

>>1227928
What's this from?

[Anonymous No.1227937]

>mfw PAL dreamcast prices

I was lucky to get mine for 80€ and it came with controllers, VMUs and games. Most of the times I see PAL dreamcasts go for 100-120 euros

[Anonymous No.1227940]

>>1227937
Wow really? I live in England and when I used to buy games and consoles I would see Dreamcasts for about £10-15. I think mine was £10 with a controller and VMU (but annoyingly I've somehow lost my official controller /w the VMU in) :(

[Anonymous No.1227962]

>>1227453
It's a dead battery issue. My first Dreamcast started doing it a long time ago. I managed to nab a replacement (battery) from my friend, but lost it in a move before I could install the damn thing.

So long as the dead battery remains in your Dreamcast, it will constantly boot on you, even in the middle of a game session.

[Anonymous No.1227963]

>>1216326
>Dreamcast also has new games released
さすが日本。

[Anonymous No.1227968]

>No mention of Sega Swirl

C'mon, guys.

[Anonymous No.1227980]

Crazy Taxi was so fucking great. I know a few people who aren't big fans of the soundtrack, but I feel like it fits the game perfectly. Do I wish there were more than just four songs? Yes, but I'll take what I got, Bad Religion and Offspring were both good choices in my opinion.

Don't tell it didn't get your blood pumping when All I want started at the beginning of the game.

And the announcer. I don't know what he's doing now, but he just made the game even more exciting for me. The whole just felt like a rush of excitement, and I love it.

[Anonymous No.1227985]

>>1227980
I never got what the orange thing in the logo was supposed to be. Is it something from the game?

[Anonymous No.1227992]

>>1227985
It's not in the game (At least to my knowledge) I'm guessing it's just trying to give the game a edgy look or something I'm not entirely sure.

[Anonymous No.1228105]

>>1227992
I figured it was a wheel of some sort to tie in with taxis

[Sir Mr Bond !77j9ClFJEk No.1228130]

>>1222313
p51

[Anonymous No.1228264]

God you people are a bunch of fucking pricks. I didn't even know dreamcast threads weren't allowed, but goddamn stop whining you little bitches, this is a good thing, fucking nazi dumbass mods can't delete one more thing that users like.

>>1216430
That's the kind of dumb shit they teach you in college? Really?

There are 13 year olds who also learned about it on 4chan way earlier in life than you went to college.

[Anonymous No.1228276]

>Have new consoles that can connect to the internet, play mostly on PC, do all kinds of amazing things with games.
>Connect DC to internet, play homebrew
>This is the future of video games

Maybe I only feel like this because real video games stopped being made somewhere around 2003.

[Anonymous No.1228286]

>>1228276
>real video games stopped being made somewhere around 2003.
lol

[Anonymous No.1228291]

>>1228286
Well, give or take a few years, and there's definitely been exceptions.

[Anonymous No.1228556]

>>1227962
I do not believe the rebooting issue has any relation to the battery. I've ran DCs for years with no or shitty batteries and have never had them reboot on me. Rebooting is a well-known problem with the internal PSU connections.

>>1227937
>>1227940
I got one of my DCs for €2 from a friend, though that was quite a while ago now. Also looking at prices for accessories on eBay these days makes me sad - I paid £5 for an official NOS boxed RGB SCART cable in 2008.

>>1227985
To me it looks like a boxing glove or a "C" with teeth. But whatever it is, it sure is crazy

[Anonymous No.1228792]

>>1227992
"C" for crazy taxi by the looks of it

[Anonymous No.1228831]

>>1227962
>So long as the dead battery remains in your Dreamcast, it will constantly boot on you, even in the middle of a game session.

Not so sure about that one. Mine has been dead for nearly 5 years, gets played weekly for hours on end, and has never had that problem.

[Anonymous No.1228832]

I distinctly remember my cousins having a Dreamcast and Crazy Taxi. I was mad jealous.

In fact, one of the reasons I got a Gamecube was for the Dreamcast ports of the Sonic Adventure games. Chao gardens were the shit, although I sucked at raising chao.

It's a damn shame Sega couldn't pull their shit together. Also, I'd love to play Shenmue, but it's not on Steam. :(

[Anonymous No.1228841]

>>1218129
I have all 4 of the millennium 2000 edition controllers, clear/blue, clear/black, clear/pink, and clear/green. About 12 brand new US white/grey controllers and 1 PAL white/grey controller. 2 sets of Samba de Amigo maracas, and a clear official Sega Dreamcast console shell, wish I had pictures to show.

[Anonymous No.1228893]

I seem to remember someone on /vr/ suggesting setting up a private PSO server.

How do you go online with a DC these days? Does it require an adaptor of some kind?

[Sir Mr Bond !77j9ClFJEk No.1229558]

I got space channel 5 for 3.99 how did i do?

[Anonymous No.1229623]

>>1229558

About average. Condition?

[Sir Mr Bond !77j9ClFJEk No.1229628]

>>1229623
has cd, book, case is broken but all there.

[Anonymous No.1229647]

>>1228893
That would be fucking amazing, if someone gets instructions I will definitely host (if that's how it works)

[Anonymous No.1229657]

>>1228893
there's a way to do it via a USB dial up modem and linux

[Anonymous No.1229673]

>>1229647
Found this: http://www.maturion.de/dreamcast/mterlouw/
(Other cool Dreamcast things: http://voices.yahoo.com/eight-great-sega-dreamcast-hacks-3315792.html )
Good luck and let me know how it goes if you try.

You can buy a official, used adapter for $100+ if you can find one...

[Anonymous No.1229679]

>>1229628

Pretty good then. I should get a copy sometime. One thing nice about the games is that they are so cheap compared to certain other consoles. Probably because they are so easy to just burn copies of.

[Anonymous No.1229681]

>>1229647
>>1229673
Found this too, though it appears to be a bit pricey (but cheaper than the adapter) http://dreamcast-talk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3122

[Anonymous No.1229734]

I vote we make 6th gen retro since it was the last good video game generation. That way we can discuss the Playstation 2, Gamecube, Gameboy Advance, Xbox and Dreamcast here without all the /v/irgin shitposting.

[Anonymous No.1229769]

>>1229734
I can't in good conscious consider games like Halo, Jak and Daxter, Mario Sunshine and Metal Gear Solid 2 retro.

No matter how disgusted I am with our Call-of-Duty dominated, FPS-controlling 8th generation and last leg of the 7th generation have become.

[Anonymous No.1229778]

>>1229769
>I can't in good conscious consider games like Halo, Jak and Daxter, Mario Sunshine and Metal Gear Solid 2 retro.

Why not? They're timeless classics and have that nostalgic/retro appeal.

Well, I don't know about Halo; the first one was pretty good but after the series turned into the biggest cash-cow video game franchise this side of Call of Duty, it started to go downhill.

[Anonymous No.1229790]

>>1229734
Actually 6th gen is when everything started going to shit. 7th gen hasn't changed much except that Microsoft is the scapegoat and Nintendo reclaimed the marketshare they lost to Sony; they have yet to reclaim the third party support.

[Anonymous No.1229816]

>>1229778
>They're timeless classics and have that nostalgic/retro appeal.
>nostalgic/retro appeal
Try again in 5 years.

Also, how can Mario Sunshine be a "classic" when nobody likes it? That game is such cancer, it even spread to ruining Mario from being a good character to use in Super Smash Bros. Brawl by sticking him with that fucking water cannon.

[Anonymous No.1229823]

>>1229790
>Actually 6th gen is when everything started going to shit.

Huh? Please explain.

>Microsoft is the scapegoat

By sony ponies, and we all know how hypocritical they are and they should never be taken seriously

>Nintendo reclaimed the marketshare they lost to Sony; they have yet to reclaim the third party support.

Which they lost back in the 90's due to their draconian policies regarding "quality control", among other things. And so what if Nintendo was under a dry spell for the entire 6th gen? They recovered from it in the following gen, and they certainly handled it a lot better than SEGA did and Sony are doing.

[Anonymous No.1229824]

>>1229816
I was mostly referring to Jak and Daxter and MGS2. I played a bit of Mario Sunshine way back when and found it alright, but I never got into it since I didn't have a Gamecube back then. And I'm not really a Mario fan to begin with.

[Anonymous No.1229851]

>>1229823
>By sony ponies, and we all know how hypocritical they are and they should never be taken seriously
stopped reading right there
Pic semi-related

[Anonymous No.1229871]

>>1229851
Technically, DLC was a modern phenomenon, but the PS2 encouraged developers to cut content for numerous reasons, most importantly, the PS2 being such a >console that games barely worked right. RE4 is a substantially cut down port compared to the GameCube version. So, developers took a standard for the PS2 to the next logical step and made the game incomplete, and sell the rest for more money. DLC is a noble idea. It's just executed very poorly, charging a fortune for features that should've been in the game from the beginning.

The PS2, due to how absurdly weak it was, essentially forced developers to cut as many corners as possible to make games work. GTA3 is a technically impressive game for 2001, but subsequent GTAs had more and more obvious framerate issues. Speaking of, GTA kickstarted a whole new trend of "mature games" that persists to this day. The PS2 is comparable to the Saturn in how poorly designed and lobotimized the hardware was, and it even had a terrible launch and faulty hardware that would break JUST AFTER the warranty ran out. Only reason it became relevant was because it was a DVD player (a media center first, game console second) and Sony's marketing is unstoppable.

The PS2 was the patient zero of "consolitis".

[Anonymous No.1229873]

>>1229871
>RE4 is a substantially cut down port
Again, stopped reading there. You'd be right about it, if you were only talking about graphics. PS2 had way more extra content.
tl;dr: you're full of shit

[Anonymous No.1229872]

>>1229851
Looks like a butthurt segafaggot, those guys will never understand that it wasn't Sony, but rather SEGA's own blunders and mismanagement that spelled doom for the Dreamcast. Or maybe they just choose not to understand because glorious SEGA can do no wrong, ever.

Anyway when I said "sony ponies" I meant the extreme Sony fanboys who follow Sony like a religion, defend Sony and try to rationalize their fuck ups by bashing Nintendo and Microsoft - basically the Playstation equivalent of the aforementioned segagays like the one in your pic. They're also massive hyporcrites, like how they bashed the Xbox 360 for having paid online, yet when Sony announced the PS4 would have paid online they quickly turned around and said it was no big deal. They also overrate "interactive" movies like Beyond: Two Souls to death, purely because they're Sony exclusive.

Mind you I've been a fan of Playstation since the 90's - and I don't plan to ever stop being a Playstation fan - and have never owned an Xbox, but even I can't stand the hardcore sony bronies.

[Anonymous No.1229875]

>>1229872
ad honimium again? You're just making Nintenerd's look bad.

[Anonymous No.1229881]

>>1229873
Right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qz0LbKpZtI

I guess it's just an optical illusion.

[Anonymous No.1229883]

>>1229881
so, you're denying all the extra content that came with the PS2 version, all because of MUH GRAFICS?
Right.

[Anonymous No.1229887]

>>1229881
He literally said you'd be right IF you were talking about graphics. The PS2 version has more alternate costumes and an extra gun. Stop talking out of your ass.

[Anonymous No.1229892]

>>1229875
Try going to >>>/v/ some time and see it for yourself. And no, if anything I prefer Playstation over Nintendo, though I also like Nintendo.

[Anonymous No.1229894]

>>1229892
This isn't /v/, avoid that shit

[Anonymous No.1229895]

>>1229881
PS2 version has worse performance and graphics but more content.

Not that it matters. Neither the PS2 or GC version of RE4 are the definitive versions anyway.

[Anonymous No.1229896]

>>1229894
Just trying to prove my point to him.

[Anonymous No.1229897]

>>1229887
>>1229883

>some costumes
>a gun

Oh wow, you sure showed me.

[Anonymous No.1229902]

>>1229897
>forgetting the extra missions

[Anonymous No.1229908]

>>1229902
So crippling hardware faults are justified by adding pointless shit to a game? I gotcha, that's how the N64 is always justified.

[Anonymous No.1229914]

>>1229908
>crippling hardware faults
>DRE that affected 5% of all systems produced

[Anonymous No.1229920]

>>1229897
>MUH GRAFIX

If you really think that's a "substantially cut down port" I don't know what else to say.

[Anonymous No.1229932]

>>1229914
More like how shit the CPU and GPU were. The PS2 was designed by having a dart board of random features and whatever they hit, got added. It's a fucking mess of a console, comparable to the Saturn.

And the DRE was icing on the cake, almost all fat PS2s suffered from it.

>>1229920
How a game operates, believe it or not, counts as content. The PS2 was CLEARLY incapable of playing this game, thus its performance had to be compromised. I'd rather have a game that works the way it should than one where they added pointless shit to cover it up.

[Anonymous No.1229937]

>>1229932
>saturn has a billion subprocessors so that it can create shit on a holodeck
>bombs hard because of complicated design
>oh that's ok
.>PS2 tries out different ways of doing things (maybe make a couple of mistakes along the way)
>WAH WAH WAH MUH GRAFICS MUH REALISM WAH WAH WAH SONY IS SHIT
You want to know why the PS2 faired better? Because the software libraries were actually FUNCTIONAL.

[Anonymous No.1229942]

>>1229908
>So crippling hardware faults are justified by adding pointless shit to a game?

No one is making that argument. And I really don't know what to say to you when you're considering extra content (more storyline missions) as "pointless"

[Anonymous No.1229994]

I expected better of /vr/

[Anonymous No.1230282]

>>1229790
And Sony went from 1st place with the PS2 to 3rd place with the PS3.

[Anonymous No.1230284]

>>1223776
I loved this game so much. I saw every ending. And came back for more. It's just so stylish.

[NESfag No.1230297]

The Dreamcast is very respectable because in PAL territories it was the first console for which EVERY game could be played both in 50hz and 60hz because it was Sega's policy.

FINALLY we could play games like they were meant to without importing. Meanwhile the PS2 and Xbox still had plenty of games in 50hz only (although the more years passed and the more you'd see 60hz in most games).

Also the Dreamcast has the best console versions (ports) of tons of games, like Resident Evil 2 and 3, Dino Crisis. Dino Crisis looks absolutely wonderful on Dreamcast, better than on PC. The shading looks wonderful.

[Anonymous No.1230301]

Report and ignore console war shit.

[Anonymous No.1230302]

>>1229994

I miss when the media openly told both the fanboys and the publishers to shut the fuck up regularly instead of being mewling bitches

[Anonymous No.1230304]

>>1230297

Actually X-Box had a native switch to 60Hz in the console OS menu. Gamecube had the option on game boot.

PS2 was the one with 50Hz and really bad PAL conversions like Shadow Of The Colossus (Borderline unplayable on PAL. Especially if you ran it through component)

[Anonymous No.1230305]

>>1229994
These people cannot be considered /vr/. I bet it's a containment breach from /v/. usually people here are more calm than this.

/v/irgins are subhuman and must be killed.

[Anonymous No.1230309]

>>1230297
The Hz difference wasn't really an issue in games as long as it was handled properly by devs.

Occasionally there would be a colossal fuck-up like FFX, but even by late fourth gen it wasn't an issue in most games.

[Anonymous No.1230312]

>>1221459
when will DC get a GOOD emulator!?!?!??!?

[NESfag No.1230331]

>>1230304
Some XBOX games don't support 60hz. Some even have the aspect ratio fucked up.

>>1230309
Yeah IF it was handed properly which was very hardly the case, there ARE good PAL conversions in retro console games but it's very rare. For example on NES I can only name 2 games with proper speed in PAL : SMB3 and Blue Shadow. SMB1's speed was converter and actually runs about 10% faster than the original too (which makes the game twice as fun imo). But even when the speed is correct (which again is very rare) the aspect ratio is still fucked up.

[Anonymous No.1230334]

>>1230312
Just buy a dreamcast you poor shit.

[Anonymous No.1230336]

>dreamcast
>games
the only good exclusive on dreamcast is the first shenmue

oh well, that's still more than on previous sega consoles

[Anonymous No.1230340]

Report and ignore.

[Anonymous No.1230342]

>>1230336
Why does everybody forget about Virtual On? Seriously was it bad or something?

[Anonymous No.1230349]

Dreamcast, comfiest console of all time? I think so.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_gJOnzXt-g

[Anonymous No.1230360]

>>1229734
>without all the /v/irgin shitposting.

Since the DC has been allowed, it's proven that you can take the posters out of /v/, but you can't take the /v/ out of the posters.

[Anonymous No.1230369]

>grew up 6th gen
Keep your shitty posts about gc being good on v since they've seem to be the only ones that liked it even though it started the demise of nintendo

[Anonymous No.1230372]

>>1230369
Nintendo is better than ever though... Did you even play 3D World? Stay pleb

[Anonymous No.1230375]

>>1230342
Go to /m/ and you'll have a lively VO thread, obviously.

[Anonymous No.1230389]

>>1230375
So is that a yes or a no?

[Anonymous No.1230550]

>>1216291
what about the gameboy advance, no one give a shit about that to, even when I post a gba game on /v/, liberal modern gen fags takes down the thread really hard.....

[Anonymous No.1230660]

>>1230550
>liberal modern gen fags
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.1230672]

Buy one for 50 Eurodollar or emulate?

[Anonymous No.1230710]

>At my apartment, think to self, "I'll play Final Fight CD on my Sega CD before my train comes."
> Game doesn't play, Sega CD boots straight to audio disc mode.
> Arrive at my parents house, nostalgiaing around my room. "Hey look its my Dreamcast!" Put in my best conditioned/non copied games and none of them work.
> I'm thankful that Sega stopped making hardware, they suck at it.
> Dust off my NES, blow into my Zelda 1 cart and get comfy as it works after two blows and a giggle.

[Anonymous No.1230746]

>>1230672
Buy. Could never get tons of games to work properly on dreamcast emulation.

[Anonymous No.1230757]

>>1230710

>blows

You know that hurts the cart right? Use an ear swab or something to lightly remove unwanted material.

[Anonymous No.1230760]

>>1230710
The NES has no moving parts to break, unlike the consoles you mentioned. A Genesis will still work just fine.

And don't blow on your carts.

[Anonymous No.1231245]

I have one in my shed

[Anonymous No.1231249]

>>1231245
Mighty fine shed.

[Anonymous No.1231328]

>>1230757
>>1230760
Thanks, I'll stop blowing on carts.

I know about the moving parts but who is going to release a console based on carts nowadays?

I'd spend Xbox One money on a console as technologically equal to the 360, but based on carts with the reliability of a SNES or 64. We've got consoles damn near a quarter century year old still working w/o a repair. But a 360 that lasts 7yrs w/o a RROD is damn near unheard of.

[Anonymous No.1231348]

>>1230342
playing naomi virtual on

that day when i found out that stun combo

that day when i can execute a magnificent looking cc > circular cc >> jump cc and practically stunning the crowd (mostly children)

that day when i found out that twin stick for dreamcast cost two hundred bucks and i could never recreate that arcade experience...

[Anonymous No.1231543]

>>1230550
Proof GBA still belongs on /v/

>>1230672
Buy an NTSC-J one with transformer for 1000 yen.

[Anonymous No.1232090]

>>1231245
You're a mans man.

[Anonymous No.1232294]

>>1230760
>The NES has no moving parts to break, unlike the consoles you mentioned.
wut. Maybe by some qualified detail it doesn't count, but the NES is notorious for breaking over time due to loose connections caused by the mechanical cart insertion and ejection system.

[Anonymous No.1232349]

>>1227980
YAH YAH YAH YAH YAH

[Anonymous No.1232549]

>>1232294
Those connections don't loosen when you're not using the console.

Meanwhile, disuse in something like a dreamcast promotes the settling of dust on critical components, which prevents it from working.

[Anonymous No.1232610]

>>1232549
lots of time it's not even dust

in other electronics, motor lubricant just dries or hardens

[Anonymous No.1232639]

>>1232610
I forgot about that.

That's what did my 3DO in, I tested it without adding lubrication and I cracked a gear.

[Anonymous No.1233309]

>>1232549
Everything deteriorates over time. A few days ago I had a megadrive pack up when a solder joint broke loose because it was old and brittle. I went to resolder it and the entire trace leading to it lifted off the board. Had to replace it with wire.