/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1172001]

I haven't played this since I was nine. What am I in for?

[Anonymous No.1172004]

>>1172001
A game that has nothing to do with Final Fantasy, but is nonetheless a pretty solid JRPG.

[Anonymous No.1172020]

>>1172001
A very unpolished game that's inferior to FFL2 in every possible way.

[Anonymous No.1172025]

>>1172001
Protip, sell your starting weapon and buy some armor for God's sake.

[Anonymous No.1172026]

The first SaGa game

[Anonymous No.1172061]

>>1172020

FFL2 ain't no FFL3 brah

[Anonymous No.1172107]

My monster just died; is there any reason to revive it over just recruiting a new one?

[Anonymous No.1172369]

>>1172061
FFL3 is the weakest of the trilogy.

>>1172107
Do what you feel is right.

Also prepare for brutality mid to late game.

[Anonymous No.1172382]

>>1172369

The Talon theme respectfully disagrees with you. I remember 1 not really having much of an engaging story. You were just kinda adventuring.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zICpWwRU6I

[Anonymous No.1172627]

>>1172382
Save the World, the boss theme, and Burning Blood think otherwise.

The first game you were looking for paradise, but on the way you end up going on many heroic adventures, or you could say a saga.

If riding around on a hover cycle in a destroyed futuristic city while tryng to find and destroy a shield generator with a flaming bird constantly pursuing you isn't engaging then I don't know what is.

FFL3 was my first JRPG and I went through them backwards, but I like the first two the most, even more after playing other JRPG's because a lot of thier mechanics still feel fresh.

[Anonymous No.1172703]

>>1172107
Early on, not really. Might as well. All starting monsters suck, but hey, if you get lucky, you could have something decent with some meat combos.
>>1172627
>or you could say a saga.
You sneaky mother fucker.

Also, yeah. FFL3 was like the retarded love-child of FF and SaGa made because I guess americans and possibly japs were too baffled by SaGa 1 and 2 being fairly unconventional.

Also, "the Talon theme"/Another Dimension sucks. It's Steslos that you lot were trying to remember, which is the ACTUAL Talon theme and its actual name in moonland, though it is also associated with Dion and the Rebels in general.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmRWB0gdJQQ

[Anonymous No.1173821]

Pretty much all the characters are replaceable with enough grinding --- all i want to do is replay this game again.

[Anonymous No.1174886]

the saga 2 and 3 remakes for the ds are both pretty good, though in 3 it takes a pretty long time for your characters to do respectable damage.

there are translations for both out on the internets

>possnob skirmishers

[Anonymous No.1174909]

>>1172703
Kawazu didn't work on SaGa 3, hence why it lacks his eccentricities.

[Anonymous No.1175729]

>>1174909
Hence why it is the weakest of the three. You can tell whee he may have influenced a game easily.

[Anonymous No.1177319]

>>1172001

A god who is really a Amish man with an incredibly bad sense of humor.

[Anonymous No.1177406]

>>1177319
He was just really bored.

[Anonymous No.1178708]

water world, mutant M, mutant F, and human F

[Anonymous No.1179069]

>>1178708
Only a three member set up?

[Anonymous No.1179185]

>>1179069
Yeah -- this thread got me wanting to play again. I haven't got much free time, so this game is perfect. After this, I'll replay with a two character setup, and then a one character run if I haven't got it out of my system.

[Anonymous No.1179547]

Oh god, I will have the theme in my head all afternoon now.

Oh well, it's worth it.

[Anonymous No.1179790]

>>1178708
that lame anon. playing all mutants is like playing a norm's RPG, you might as well stick to FF,faggypants

[Anonymous No.1180051]

>>1179790
Which would you play?

[Anonymous No.1180091]

>>1172001

Expect being able to take a chainsaw to god, and instantly slaughter him for his hubris....assuming you somehow aren't actually stronger than him. Oh, and possibly tossing a nuke in his face beforehand too, if you somehow managed to find it. Seriously. Sure, it probably won't really amount to jack shit, but how many can say they nuked God?

[Anonymous No.1181106]

>>1180051
One monster.

[Anonymous No.1181195]

>>1181106
One monster is like Nascar. Difficult, but boring.

[Anonymous No.1181205]

I started SaGa 2 for the first time a few months ago. Didn't know much about it going in so I went with one of each. It was basically a breeze (even Venus and you guys gave me a ton of shit about her being hard) and then I got to the Japanese world and stopped. Not sure if I got stuck or lost interest but what's for sure is whenever I load it up I want to stop playing almost instantly.

Great game but I feel like I "get it" at this point and... well, don't feel motivated to finished.

Pic related, it's a part of FFL2 that I assume I would get to in about an hour if I could be assed to actually play it.

[Anonymous No.1183098]

>>1181205
Not much to power through. It is like a 12 hour game. Though I cannot say much because I cannot even play a single JRPG right now.

[Anonymous No.1183141]

>>1183098
yeah... i mean i only played it really during breaks at work or while watching tv. putting time into a full-blown jrpg is probably out of the question for me at this point

[Anonymous No.1183443]

>>1172382
Mah niggah. You just made a shitty day so much better. Loved this game so much. Gonna go play it now.

[Anonymous No.1183884]

Maybe the best RPG ever.

[Anonymous No.1184073]

>>1183884
Fuck yes. Best replay value, for sure.

[Anonymous No.1184149]

>>1178708
Sky World, same setup -- slow playing, but doing some decent grinding.

[Anonymous No.1184193]

>>1172703

That song so cool. God damnit.

Except I'm a die hard fan of Furious Battle. That's gotta be one of my favourite last boss themes

[Anonymous No.1186352]

What's everyone's favorite setup?

[Anonymous No.1186545]

>>1186352
Either two humans, a mutant, and a monster, or a human, two mutants, and a monster.

Too bad you get a lot of shitty spells early game on mutants.

[Anonymous No.1187619]

>>1186545
I was thinking about it -- 1 human 1 mutant team is probably the smoothest way to play the game. minimal grinding, but just enough backup.

[Anonymous No.1187646]

>>1187619
I just do solo human. If you sell your starting weapon and get some armor, the earlygame is much easier, and when you open up the tower you can get plenty of money and power to where you can fight full power Suzaku on an even level.

And if you want to use the Saw at high levels, you can just equip the band to make your strength wrap around to 1.

[Anonymous No.1187659]

>>1186352
4 Mutants
As long as you don't have an human, you will never have any money problems so you can give everyone Flare toms and kill everything in the first round.

[Anonymous No.1187663]

>>1172025
Armor and defense are for retards who get hit.
Protip: The trick to not getting hit is to not get hit.

[Anonymous No.1187673]

>>1187659
crap. you might as well play an a real normie FF! that's like playing 4 redmages except with better magic! too much powergaming

[Anonymous No.1187678]

>>1187663
You're thinking of Final Fantasy Adventure. Final Fantasy Legend uses turn-based combat.

[Anonymous No.1187679]

>>1187659
I tried that once. I got into a fight on the way to town and everyone got HP boosts.

I was low on HP and those HP boosts meant I couldn't afford the inn, nor could I fight any more monsters without getting killed

[Anonymous No.1187687]

>>1187679
Buying healing potion/healing spells is much cheaper than sleeping in the Inn.

[Anonymous No.1187707]

>>1187678
Sounds like you just need some better skills chump.

[Anonymous No.1187715]

>>1187707
Or you can just admit that you're wrong and you get passive-aggressive when called out.

>>>/fk/

[Anonymous No.1187778]

>>1187715
Never! Sounds like loser talk to me.

[Anonymous No.1190710]

>>1178708
Just beat Ashura -- time to grind for the final ascent. Then 2 character replay. Human M, Mutant F.

[Anonymous No.1190716]

>>1190710
Pre-Grind --

Mutant F
Str. 24
Def. 49
Agl. 99
Mana99

Human M
Str. 20
Def. 64
Agl. 53
Mana99

Human F
Str. 17
Def. 36
Agl. 99
Mana0

[Anonymous No.1190738]

>>1190716
>Str. 24/20/17
YER ABUSIN THE SAW, AINCHA?

[Anonymous No.1191357]

>>1186352

I always did an human male, 2 mutant females and 1 mutant male.

[Anonymous No.1191359]

>>1187646

Was the saw more effective with 1 strength or something?

I never used the saw, because I didn't know it was so OP (I thought it only crit killed Suzaku).

[Anonymous No.1191407]

>>1180091

Still not sure if this is some pseudo-matrix for Silky Hat or someone in Japan read The Dark Tower and thought about it too much.

[Anonymous No.1191415]

>>1172001
a really boring game

[Anonymous No.1191501]

>>1190716
How did you get that much mana on a human?

[Anonymous No.1191531]

>>1191501

It's a typo. He's running a 2 mutant, 1 human setup.

[Anonymous No.1191617]

>>1191359
The saw is supposed to instant kill any enemy that has a lower defense than your strength but due a bug this is reversed and you can only instant kill enemies with a higher defense instead.

[Anonymous No.1191657]

>>1190716
So .... I forgot the base of the tower isn't really a great place to grind. Not a lot of good cheap weapons that are commensurate to the gold you get from battles.

Instead, I just got my human to 99 Str., and charged up the tower.

Creator is dead, now I'm going to try to figure out how to do a two party setup without choosing a Human F and selling the saber.

[Anonymous No.1191802]

>>1191657
And, grinding with the new setup before defeating Gen-Bu;

Mutant F;
HP 292
Str. 3
Def. 6
Agl. 32
Mana43

Human M.
HP 170
Str. 16
Def. 21
Agl. 7
Mana0

[Anonymous No.1191832]

Dunno if it's only the remake, but expect espers to be OP as fuck.

[Anonymous No.1191834]

>>1172025
>add new party member
>sell their possessions
>replace them with a new party member
>repeat

[Anonymous No.1191842]

Last I played, I got to the water world and got lost. Finally figured out the secret of the island dots though.

[Anonymous No.1192523]

>>1191617

Hahaha, that's freaking awesome.

[Anonymous No.1192525]

>>1191657

You can take the stats above 99. Eventually they'll wrap around back to 1.

[Anonymous No.1192527]

>>1192525
They cap out at 255 then revert to 1.

[Anonymous No.1192535]

How much grinding/monotony is in this game?

[Anonymous No.1192549]

>>1192535
Very little .... if you do it *right*

It's very easy to get lost as a lot of the mechanics don't work the same way as typical RPGs. Mutants grow traits semi-randomly, while humans require purchases. In all cases, it's very easy to get slammed if you treat it like a traditional RPG. Alternatively, if you take advantage of the flaws in the game, you can slam right through it with almost no grinding at all.

[Anonymous No.1192602]

>>1172001
That's the worst filter I've ever seen.

[Anonymous No.1192828]

>go to buy item on market
>0 listed
>check history
>like 10 just sold the day before
>wait a day
>one finally listed
>they added a couple 0s over the history prices
>wait a couple days for a more reasonable price
>no more listed
>someone buys the outrageously priced one
>suddenly 5 or 6 more listed in the next few hours for the new ridiculous price

[Anonymous No.1192938]

SaGa 1 is okay, but 2 is way better because robots own.

[Anonymous No.1192971]

>>1186352
>Dat feel when you couldn't beat the game because you built your team using the principles of shipping, not strategy.

[Anonymous No.1193564]

>>1192535
It is suppose to be completed within 10 to 12 hours. Thre can be some grind to get money or get a certain monster transformation.

I know for a fact the sequel has no grind at all since I replayed it this year. Or at least no grind depending on your party.

[Anonymous No.1193593]

>>1193564
>I know for a fact the sequel has no grind at all since I replayed it this year. Or at least no grind depending on your party.
If that's true why did I wind up at Asura with him doing a fuckillion damage for insta-kills, and I only won by sheer luck?

[Anonymous No.1193714]

>>1193593
His four arms should be an instant death unless you do some insane grinding. I never had problems with him, are you putting the character with the most defense at the front of the group?

Also Asura is small time compared to Arsenal and a few other bosses in the game.

[Anonymous No.1195674]

>>1172020
>>1192938

just read the FFL2 gamefaqs like a normie, and found out it's possible to beat the game with only monsters unlike FFL1. cool.

i still prefer robots though. but only have 1 on my team because expenses. FFL2 robots are still cheaper to use than the humans in FFL1 or the FFL3 robots.

[Anonymous No.1195836]

>>1195674
Yeah I generally don't have more than a single robot otherwise it becomes a money grind game. One is enough and you get enough excllent equipment from dungeons. I never had to buy missile or tank.