/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.1168954]

I'd like to get an emulation device, like OpenPandora, but not $600, bleah!

Please explain to me like I am a newfag what devices I should consider. Is there one of those "God Tier" style charts of these things? Seems like there are a bunch of options, and none of them are perfect... Am I wrong?

[Ark No.1168971]

Soft-hack a PSP. Good for pretty much everything except SNES.

[Anonymous No.1168974]

>>1168971
Done. DS too. I want one of these things, dammit.

[Anonymous No.1168980]

do you want a handheld? get a used PSP for cheap as fuck
do you want a console? get a used wii for cheap as fuck

[Anonymous No.1168984]

>>1168980
I want one of these weird emulation specific handhelds. Stop talking me out of it, and talk me into one.

[Anonymous No.1168991]

I don't intend to highjack the thread so I'm politely sageing (even if my use of sage is incorrect for this board).

Can someone name a working PS1 emu for PSP? Haven't found any working ones.

[Anonymous No.1169003]

>>1168991
There is none. You have to convert the games to run on the PSP, and thus there are converters and actual torrents of PSX games redid for PSP. Really, it's just about how the game was dumped off the CD and packaged for the PSP.

[Anonymous No.1169006]

>>1169003
Last question. I have already tried that in the past with no luck. Do you know the name of a working converter?

[Anonymous No.1169063]

I've got one of these GCW-Zeros and it's amazing.

Been playing the Streets of Rage Remake that was just ported: >>1168102

There is no cash for marketing so don't expect much positive spin out there.

Thinkgeek has a few coming in this month if you're really interested.

[Anonymous No.1169076]

i highly recommend nvidia shield.

its not portable in the sense that you can stick it in your pocket, but you can carry it around in a backpack or something. great for travelling. its one of the only tegra 4 devices out right now. its got a lot of power so you won't experience any slowdowns at all with any emulators unless you're using intense shaders in retroarch.

the controller is wonderful. feels just like an xbox 360 controller. d-pad is surprisingly good and all the buttons are clicky and responsive. thumbsticks are perfect. its got 2 triggers and 2 bumpers. well suited for large hands.

i cant recommend it enough. its worth getting not only for emulation but there's also a lot of good android games that support the controller. and you can stream your PC games to it.

[Anonymous No.1169095]

>>1168954
>GCW is the best overall. It's got a decent selection of emulators, the price is reasonable, and the ergonomics are pretty good.
>PSP does PSX games well, but it's pretty bad for anything else (SNES in particular is terrible). It's also the cheapest option, so every single poorfag recommends it.
>JXD products are powerful and run ordinary Android, but they're still basically just cheap Chinese tablets so don't expect very consistent build quality.
>Smartphones are, well, smartphones. Sony Xperia Play is a nice, if somewhat slow and outdated, choice.
>DS is a complete joke that struggles to run most systems.
>GP2X series are damn nice handhelds; they're smaller than most smartphones, have a good battery life and run everything up to and including PSX with no issues. The only problem is that the manufacturer closed down a few years ago, and the Wiz's screen is known to just sort of crap out and die after a few years (pic related).

[Anonymous No.1169149]

I'm starting to get really frustrated with these threads, because every time one pops up, it reminds me that I STILL haven't gotten my GCW-Zero. I really wish I could share my experiences with people and help them make an educated purchase, but it's just not happening with this shit.

[Anonymous No.1169152]

>>1169076
>feels just like an xbox 360 controller.
Fuck. Does that include the 360's abysmal Dpad?

[Anonymous No.1169162]

>>1169152
no. the shield d-pad is really good in comparison

[Anonymous No.1169165]

>>1169162
What about in comparison to, say, a Nintendo d-pad?

[Anonymous No.1169167]

>>1168971

My psp handles SNES well with the exception of the later first party stuff like DKC 3 and Yoshi's Island.

[Anonymous No.1169190]

>>1169006
Not the person you're replying to, but I use PSX2PSP

[Anonymous No.1169197]

>>1169167
What emulator do you run on it?

[Anonymous No.1169205]

>>1169003
A lot of the games I converted for PSP had problems with them. Breath of Fire 3 would black screen and require a restart on transitions occasionally, Dino Crisis would be missing/have distorted sprites and using the shotgun caused a freeze, FFVIII had huge slowdowns in battle. The only PSX game I got working 100% was FFVII and Legend of Legaia. I think Resident Evil 1 had errors but was able to be completed as well.

[Anonymous No.1169239]

[Anonymous No.1169270]

>>1169197

not that guy, but if you're having trouble with snes try turning up the cpu clock setting- you'll burn battery faster but it seems to help sometimes

[Ark No.1169368]

>>1169167
>>1169197
>>1169270

I was following Snes9xTYLcm 0.4.2 Mod up until Rev.16 (they are on Rev.26 now), and it was finally at a point where it mostly didn't crash and had fixed most of the bugs. But I still prefer to play SNES games on a PC emulator.

[Anonymous No.1169571]

>>1169095
This man delivered. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.1169575]

>>1169205
What do you do to get your ps1 games on your psp? I've tried tons of games and the only game I couldn't get working was dragon quest 7. I've tried some of the games you named and they worked fine for me.

[Anonymous No.1169583]

>>1169205
Resident Evil and Dino Crisis both had psn releases. Download those since they don't have those issues.

Emulation needs a really good cpu. Those recommending psp and such are doing so strictly because it can run psp and ps1 games natively. Good if you want to play a lot of those games, but the psp didn't have the best library, and nowadays most all its games can run on a decent laptop. If you want something with buttons already on it, go with a shield, not gcw zero since emulation is all it's good for. Shield runs android, which has tons of apps. You'll probably use a shield more than any other device besides maybe a laptop with a ds3.

[Anonymous No.1169586]

>>1169575
Download the psn eboots.
http://www.pspiso.com/psp-games/1066688-community-psn-thread-share-download-your-games-dlc-here.html?1066688-FAST-amp-DIRECT-DOWNLOADS-FROM-SONY-SERVERS-share-your-game-collection-in-10-minutes=
yes I know registration required but it's worth it. I have RE1,2,3, Dino Crisis1/2, MGS, FF7,8,9, Vagrant story all working perfectly, to name just a few

[Anonymous No.1169606]

psp or if you (probably) have a smartphone:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ipega-Wireless-Bluetooth-Game-Controller-For-Mobile-Phone-iPhone-Samsung-Android-/390643799084?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item5af42f542c

[Anonymous No.1169610]

Which emulation handheld (if any) can handle GameCube emulation? Because until I can replay REmake on the go I'm just gonna stick with my PSP2000.

[Anonymous No.1169703]

Can the GCW-Zero manage clock based events with second gen Pokemon games? Does it experience any substantial slowdowns with SNES, Genesis, or Gameboy Advance games?

[Anonymous No.1169804]

>>1169149
Cry moar bitch nigga.
Pandora original preorder here.

[Anonymous No.1169813]

>>1169205
you might have to use a different version of POPS, there used to be good documentation and a huge list of what games ran well with what version of POPS, if i can find the link ill post it

[Anonymous No.1169817]

>>1169063
I'd wait until they are sold at their site personally, Thinkgeek always pushes up the prices of anything they sell horribly high.

[Anonymous No.1169821]

>>1169610
Are you dreaming? I can scarcely run basic Wii games on my laptop.

[Anonymous No.1169823]

>>1169610
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoQRMSfQcWI
android, someday

[Anonymous No.1169825]

>>1169063
I don't read anything about motion sensors on their website, is that guy just moving it around with the game movements to make it look like it does? if that person works for the company, that's a pretty shady thing to do and doesn't give me much faith in them or their products.

[Anonymous No.1169845]

>>1169825
>works for the company
"the company" is a handful of unpaid devs messing around with the device for fun. The dingux development community is older than the device. Yes it has a g-sensor that one of the developers porting games built into the Descent port's controls. To my knowledge this is the only software that uses the the g-sensor hardware. The device also has a built in FM radio that isn't used. These aren't features that were sought after. They are features that would have cost more to not include because it came with the boards.

[Anonymous No.1169847]

>>1169825
>http://wiki.surkow.com/Quick_Start_Guide#Specifications
check the features listed under "other"

[Anonymous No.1169856]

>>1169845
since it's open source, I'm sure some one will come up with a program that will use the FM radio eventually, or maybe you could just use on of the already made radio programs for linux.
But the fact that it's linux based does raise some questions for me, what is the GUI like? Does it have a GUI? Do you have to be a linux geek to simply use it? Also, not directly related but a question I had going through my head, it boasts that it's "powerful enough to play old PC games", yet how would you play such games? Many of them required keyboard and mouse and I haven't encountered a gamepad yet that does mouse movements very well

[Anonymous No.1169874]

>>1169856
It's got a GUI and a couple file browsers. Most the games, programs, and emulators are packaged into OPK files which have a desktop file that contains the info for the GUI so as soon as you drop the OPK onto the device via USB or wireless FTP it shows up on the GUI. Stuff that isn't packaged in OPKs can still be added and ran but you have to either manually add the link to the GUI, which is pretty simple(you press select), or open the program in the file browser.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYK67N8Bwrc

As for the older games, like DOS, the emulator developers build in controls which swap between games. The Zerox86 emulator does a really great job of this. You can enable or disable the mouse by pressing Power+B which turns the analog nub into a mouse and X B into Left and Right Click. Then keyboards are built into the emulators. For instance Jetpack runs amazing on a handheld but requires the player to press "S" to start. The S key has no other function and is useless beyond that function. So you can bring up the keyboard by pressing L in Zerox86 or Select in Dosbox. (pictured)

[Anonymous No.1169886]

>>1169856
Here's a shitty picture of the GUI. You never even see the terminal except for a few seconds during startup.

[Anonymous No.1169912]

>>1169886
>640x480
Did you take that with a DSi camera?

[Anonymous No.1169917]

>>1169912
PSVita. It's the only thing I had on hand.

[Anonymous No.1169920]

>>1169917
Vita hacked when?

[Anonymous No.1169923]

Xperia Play should be the best budget choice. You can get them for under $50, there's ICS builds for it and it has the specs to do all the emulators that currently exist at full speed.

[Anonymous No.1169924]

>>1169920
2018
Seriously, they're going all out this time to make sure that the Vita doesn't get hacked

[Anonymous No.1169925]

>>1169923
the lowest price I see is $70

[Anonymous No.1169926]

>>1169823
I actually saw this earlier today, makes me kinda wanna get an nvidia shield, but by the time this emulator works well it would probably be outta date.

>>1169821
I can dream can't I? Hence why I'm still using the psp. SNES and MAME may suck with it but I use my computer for those.

[Anonymous No.1169928]

>>1169926
>caring if something use for retro games is out of date

[Anonymous No.1169940]

>>1169925
Set up a watch list. Check out completed auctions you'll see lots of them that sold real cheap. Look for ones with a bad esn because if you're just using it for gaming you don't give a fuck/ They also pop up super cheap on craigslist they just get snapped up fast by gamers.

[Anonymous No.1169941]

>>1169928
By that I meant out of date to run dolphin emulation. I'm still using my psp for a good 75% of the shit I play. Obviously I don't give a shit if is outta date, there is much better shit for portable emulation out there.

[Anonymous No.1169995]

>>1169940
>They also pop up super cheap on craigslist they just get snapped up fast by gamers.
This most likely depends on where you live, I live in NH, so I doubt either of those things are true here.

[Anonymous No.1170003]

>>1169995
>>1169940
yup, I was 110% correct

[Anonymous No.1170013]

>>1169995
Yeah nh craigslist moves slower than death. I never find anything decent.

[Anonymous No.1170656]

>>1169703
Yes, GCW Zero has a built-in RTC and emulators make use of it.

Genesis is fullspeed, SNES is fullspeed except for the special chip games (which are very fast, but not 60/60), the majority of GameBoy Advance games are fullspeed, but there's still a handful of sluggish titles (mainly the 3D ones)

[Anonymous No.1170719]

>>1169095
>DS is a complete joke that struggles to run most systems.
DS is amazing for all GBA games, some DOS games on DSx86, SkummVM, and solid homebrew ports for games like Quake and Manic Miner.
Emulators on DS for systems like the Genesis and SNES are very touch and go, but that has more to do with the quality of the emulators rather than the limitations of the hardware.
TurboGrafx-16 on the DS runs really well overall.

[Anonymous No.1170723]

>>1170719

[Anonymous No.1171717]

I have a Sony Xperia Play.

Decent phone, has a bunch of games on it when bought, I installed a SNES, MegaDrive, and MAME emulator on it, it also has PS1 and PSP emulators on it, and a whole bunch more.

The D-pad support is also god-tier.

Well worth the cash as I commute to work and I only need to carry the one device.

[Anonymous No.1171942]

>>1170719
You are never going to be able to emulate any 3rd or 4th gen console at a playable speed on a 33MHz processor without massive amounts of HLE.

[Anonymous No.1171991]

>>1170656
How durable is it? I don't expect it to be able to work as a hockey puck, but I would like it if it was more durable than my old A320 (not exactly a high standard, if you've ever dealt with one).

[Anonymous No.1172109]

>>1168954
It depends what you want to do with it.

If all you want to do is play 2D retro there are plenty of Chinese things you can do that for dirt cheap. If you want to play 3D stuff you'll need something a bit more powerful. A PSP is actually a good option. Then there's the high end. This isn't Pandora and GCW, those are just expensive. Old JXD machines run circles around them.

I've had more problems with name brand handhelds than with Chinese things but apparently some people have read on some forum that some friend of a friend of a guy who knew a guy had all kinds of problems. Your choice if you want to pay double for 2 year old technology or take a "gamble" with any of the reputable dealers who will replace a console if you have a problem.

[Anonymous No.1172128]

>>1169817
How much is the GCW Zero supposed to be? I'm not OP, but the GCW Zero definitely appeals to me, and there's not many places that appear to sell it.

[Anonymous No.1172269]

>>1172128
Around $150.

[Anonymous No.1172276]

>>1172269
Oh, well the ThinkGeek price sounds right on then, they tend to inflate their prices a bit.

[Anonymous No.1172284]

>>1169925

lucky you, in my country the greedy fags sell them for like $250

[Anonymous No.1172286]

From what I've seen, none of these dedicated emulation devices are really that good in the first place. They depend on third parties to write (and port) emulators to their platform, which rarely happens. Anything you find for PSP is probably going to work better simply because it's a more popular system, and thus gets the attention of emulation authors. Unfortunately, there isn't a good SNES emulator available for PSP to date. The DS homebrew scene is even weaker.

[Anonymous No.1172368]

>>1172286
Most emulation devices that I've seen are either linux based or android based. Both of which have active fan developers.

[Anonymous No.1172426]

IS DAT SOME DESCENT 1?

OH LAWDY

[Anonymous No.1172443]

I'd say get a Shield or a JXD-7800s.

[Anonymous No.1172512]

>>1172286
Shouldn't be a problem for OP unless he lives in the same alternative universe as you where everything is backwards from the way it is here.

[Anonymous No.1172565]

>>1172286
>I have no idea what I'm talking about but will shit up the discussion anyway
pls

GCW emulators all receive regular updates. Their Snes9x variants both run at a stable 60fps in all games I've tried.

[Anonymous No.1172570]

>>1170003
No. You're not.

[Anonymous No.1172574]

>>1172570
>everybody lives in the same city as me
>every city has the same economy as mine

[Anonymous No.1172581]

>>1172574
That's eBay, Genius.

[Anonymous No.1172586]

>>1172581
Didn't even look at the picture.

[Anonymous No.1172589]

>>1172570
>6 bids
>$10.50
>7 days remaining

[Anonymous No.1172591]

>>1172565

Uh, okay? I'm not trying to shit up anything. I'm giving OP an honest assessment based on my experience here. I also thought a dedicated emulation device would be a good solution, but I've never had much success with them. Consoles like NES or SMS are pretty much perfected on any system, but when you get into SNES or later, you're bound to run into issues. There aren't even that many notable SNES emulators for PC. Aside from bsnes, they all have issues with certain modes and games that use special chips. On other devices they're often even more problematic due to so many of them being quick and dirty ports.

OP can take my word for it if he wants, and if not, I just hope he doesn't make an investment he later regrets. I had to import anything I bought, so there was really no way to return it if it didn't meet my expectations; and these devices are a pain to try and resell on eBay since there's not a popular market for them.

[Anonymous No.1172596]

>>1172589
>Being this ignorant

[Anonymous No.1172607]

>>1172589
That's a screenshot of a list of completed auctions. The green price means that's the price for which the item sold.

[Anonymous No.1172613]

Either you guys take yourselves way too seriously, or /vr/ is slowly being taken over by /v/

[Anonymous No.1172616]

>>1172613
I'm not a /v/ type but it does frustrate me when I try to give people good advice and they insist that I'm wrong. I should probably just let them suffer I guess.

[Anonymous No.1172625]

>>1169205
You know Breath of Fire 3 got a proper port to PSP right?

[Anonymous No.1172663]

>>1168954

The DS plays gb, sms, gg, ds, and gba (with slot 2 device) well, and also other systems with slightly worse graphics (dos, nes, tg16, genesis). Probably the best option for the first 5 systems.

the psp has its own problems, as do emulation consoles

Probably the best option right now would be a newer android tablet running retroarch with a bluetooth controller.

[Anonymous No.1172667]

>>1172663
the DS can do GBA emulation without a slot 2 card with shelling out $35 for pic related, albeit certain games are pretty bad on it (Mario Golf Advance comes to mind). the

[Anonymous No.1172675]

>>1172667
yes, I know, but the emulation quality is poor. with slot-2, it's perfect. also a cheap r4+slot2 cart costs less than a dstwo, and doesn't drain the batteries.

only reason to get the dstwo is if you already have a 3ds or dsi and don't want to get another ds

[Anonymous No.1173036]

I might get a 3DS in a few weeks, does that mean I should get the DSTwo so I can emulate GBA? Do only some game run poor?

[Anonymous No.1173254]

So, is there a forum or a place where I can see people developing these emulators? Mailing list? Where to GCW and JXD people call each other fags and hand around these emulators?

[Anonymous No.1173291]

>>1170719
Its amazing for GBA games because, well, it has a GBA build into the thing.

[Anonymous No.1173301]

>>1171717

My Xperia Play kicked the bucket about three months ago. Not a day goes by that I don't miss it.

[Anonymous No.1173315]

>>1169924
How lame. Whenever it gets hacked, it will be the ultimate emulation device. Just you all wait...

[Anonymous No.1173989]

>>1173315
The Nvidia Shield has basically no anti-hacking measures and has nearly identical specs, so I'd expect it to end up with vastly superior emulation.

[Anonymous No.1174097]

Has anyone here tried the S7800 yet?

[Anonymous No.1174105]

my DS with slot 1/slot 2 devices is my favorite for emulation.

the slot 2 device is definitely the dealmaker/dealbreaker though. emulating anything other than NES without the additional RAM is pretty much impossible.

[Anonymous No.1174109]

>>1170719
Master System is also really good on DS. I played all the way through Phantasy Star on my DS without having to settle for the crappy GBA port.

[Anonymous No.1174189]

>>1173989
I'd rather have a hacked Vita than the Shield as it's way bulkier than I care for and lacks the glorious OLED screen

[Anonymous No.1174491]

OP, here.

You've convinced me, /vr/. I've already got a couple very old Android tablets, but I sat down and Cyanogen'd them up to date. Retroarch rocks my lame ass.

I'll just use a PS3 controller... That works, I hope....

[Anonymous No.1174706]

Xperia Plays are pretty cheap, and it supports up to N64 games well.

[Anonymous No.1174726]

>>1174491


we convinced you to use hardware you already have? gay

[Anonymous No.1174841]

>>1169063
Fucking expensive.
>>1169076
Shit form-factor
>>1169095
>PSP does PSX games well, but it's pretty bad for anything else (SNES in particular is terrible)

Well, what's the fucking point? SNES has the best games and if you can't run them then it's almost useless.

Well, the options are pretty terrible.

[Anonymous No.1174850]

>>1169095
I want to get a PSP because I'm a poorfag, it looks cheap enough but for emulation I need to buy a memory stick, which fucking sucks because any normal device would just us SD cards... The PSP memory cards are so expensive.

[Anonymous No.1174867]

Look up the archos gamepad

[Anonymous No.1174868]

>>1174867

[Anonymous No.1174895]

>>1174850
>The PSP memory cards are so expensive.

[Anonymous No.1174902]

>>1169270
Would you please stop giving advice on things you don't know about?

There are no SNES emulators for the PSP that run well enough. Most games are either to slow or too buggy or both. The few games that run decently are an exception.

[Anonymous No.1174904]

>>1169610
The WiiU can stream'em on the tablet controller, you know. Ninty seriously solved this problem already.

[Anonymous No.1174910]

>>1174902
>There are no SNES emulators for the PSP that run well enough.

You people's standards are way too fucking high. It's a quality-built sub-$100 portable emulator with a ton of support. Who gives a shit if it skips a frame here and there in some game that had a special chip in it?

[Anonymous No.1174907]

>>1173989
The Nvidia Shield also happens to be a hideous, unwieldy, unergonomic piece of shit, unlike Vita.

[Anonymous No.1174912]

>>1174910
PSP is the best handheld emulation platform there is. Android is a better one, but touchscreens only, and don't make me laugh with controller attachments.

But SNES emulation on the PSP is just no good. Most games are unplayable. Is wanting more than half-speed, or seeing all the sprites a standard too high? I don't think so.

[Anonymous No.1174924]

>>1174912
>But SNES emulation on the PSP is just no good.

Well then I must have some experimental super-PSP, because the used 1001 I bought on eBay plays everything I want it to just fine. Something like Star Fox is probably iffy, but the vast majority of games work great and at full speed.

And Android is a fucking crap shoot because of the rancid shithole that is Android emulation software. RetroArch won't even run on my high-tier smartphone because of some bullshit they did to it in the name of "accuracy." Meanwhile, the people who port emulators to the PSP just opted to make the things fucking work.

[Anonymous No.1174925]

>>1174924
Name some games that run full speed and the particular emulator, please.

[Anonymous No.1174926]

>>1174924
>RetroArch won't even run on my high-tier smartphone
Runs perfectly on my Galaxy S3.

[Anonymous No.1174928]

>>1174925
Chrono Trigger, Mario RPG, Earthbound... Honestly, it's been a while, but I think I was using 9x. Whatever was the go-to at the time.

>>1174926
Good for you.

[Anonymous No.1174950]

>>1174928
>Good for you.
Sure is. It seriously is great. I've been using the *Droid shit, but now I have almost every emulator under one interface etc. etc. etc.

>Chrono Trigger, Mario RPG, Earthbound... Honestly, it's been a while, but I think I was using 9x
All stutter as fuck on snes9x. They're only playable because they're turn-fucking-based. Two points:
1. They're better on any Android emulator, and touch controls are not an issue in turn-based games;
2. Try a real-time action game for then SNES on your PSP port of snes9x and see what we're talking about, for fuck's sake.

[Anonymous No.1175252]

>>1174907
>unlike Vita

This is what Sonyfriends actually believe

Also, confirmed for never having touched a Shield

[Anonymous No.1175256]

>>1175252
My god, Sony's marketing division may be full of cock-eating dunces, but their hardware is great and has always been great.

[Anonymous No.1175262]

>>1174924

I've tried snes9x (or some derivative of it I think) on a PSP-1001 but I couldn't get full speed with any games. There were also some graphical inaccuracies. It may run better on the later models with a higher CPU clock and more RAM. I haven't experimented with it.

>>1174926

Bullshit. This is that guy who keeps spamming Retroarch in every fucking emulation thread on /vr/

It's a piece of shit frontend

[Anonymous No.1175267]

>>1175256
>but their hardware is great and has always been great.

LOL

[Anonymous No.1175269]

>>1174928
>Chrono Trigger, Mario RPG, Earthbound... Honestly, it's been a while, but I think I was using 9x. Whatever was the go-to at the time.

I want videos of these running full speed. I've only seen Super Mario World running decent on a PSP. All other games have problems, lag and frameskip. Are you guys just not noticing the frameskip and thinking it's okay? Because that shit ain't okay.

The Snes9x on PSP is pretty ancient and you'd need a custom emulator built for the PSP specifically to get it to work right. It's just too weak a system.

[Anonymous No.1175275]

>>1175262
>Bullshit.

Another guy with an S3 here, it runs fine on mine too so you're wrong.

>This is that guy who keeps spamming Retroarch in every fucking emulation thread on /vr/

And you're the same guy who keeps spamming this retarded shit in every fucking emulation thread on /vr/

>It's a piece of shit frontend

It's better than 90% of shit out there

[Anonymous No.1175272]

>>1175262

>That one guy who gets incredibly mad at the very mention of retroarch

[Anonymous No.1175276]

>>1175262
>This is that guy who keeps spamming You are wrong, shitposter.

[Anonymous No.1175278]

>>1175256

All of Sony's consoles back to the PSX have all had some sort of hardware issues down the road.

[Anonymous No.1175284]

>>1175269
No, the port is just bad. PSP runs a whole load of emulators perfectly. If it can run almost all of MegaDrive games at full speed, it should run at least quite a bit of SNES games fine. But this is not the case.

[Anonymous No.1175286]

>>1175278
Everything in the world has some sort of hardware issues down the road. Doesn't change the fact that, comparatively, Sony hardware has always been very good.

[Anonymous No.1175297]

A little more from OP:

I had a Nexus 7 and a Samsung P3 10.1" Google I/O tablet laying around. The Nexus 7 works as is, so I left it alone, but the Samsung was just sitting here with an old buggy version of Cyanogenmod.

Fortunately, Clockwork Recovery Mod is now a simple download from the app store, so I grabbed that, updated my recovery mod, then auto-updated to a nightly build of Cyanogen. I'm now running Jelly Bean on a 5 year old Samsung tablet.

Sounds bad, right? But Cyanogenmod runs like a champ. This old ass tablet runs faster than a brand new one, now.

The missing piece of the puzzle for me was Retroarch. I've now spent 2 days in a row copying data to the Samsung (It has 32 GB of storage). Dropbox fucked it up for a while, when it decided to delete anything on my PC I uploaded to drop box, but now I'm using ES Explorer to SMB the stuff over. The Samsung 10.1v has a terrible problem with directly connecting to a PC.....

Anyway, I bough the sixaxis controller softwaer in the app store, and RetroArch sees it immediately, and there's no need to configure.

Raddest setup ever, and it only cost $2.75 for the controller software

[Anonymous No.1175303]

>>1175284

333mhz isn't fast enough for even ancient SNES9x versions. The only way SNES would be full speed if someone made a ZSNES-like speedhacked emulator written in MIPS ASM specifically for the PSP, which isn't going to ever happen because the PSP is dead.

[Anonymous No.1175308]

>>1175297
Yeah, except how do you hold the controller and the tablet at the same time?

Or do you use the tablet as a laptop? In which case you should have used an actual laptop. It would have been both cheaper and more practical.

[Anonymous No.1175338]

>>1175284
snes9x and snes9x euphoria do 90% of what I've thrown at them perfectly.

Donkey Kog and Zelda were a bit wobbly, but threy have GBA ports that run perfectly.


OP, xperia play or psp or android device are your options

[Anonymous No.1175342]

>>1175308
I have a stand for the tablet. A little caase that turns into a stand. Works fine!

[Anonymous No.1175765]

>>1175303
If 360mhz on an A320 does a pretty good job you should be able to get comparable results with 333mhz on a machine that's otherwise all around more powerful.

It's a shame such good hardware has to go to waste because it's all about kidz downloading wharez and the homebrew scene sucks. The only decent thing I've seen in the last few years is Daedalus, which is of course about kidz downloading Nintendo wharez.

[DZ24 !rAd7paWg/U No.1175819]

>>1175338
>perfectly

Not with that awful sound emulation.

[Anonymous No.1175826]

>>1175765

Are Sony fanboys this delusional? PSP is ancient.

[Anonymous No.1175845]

this thing used in conjunction with your phone/ tablet

dx.com/p/172963

[Anonymous No.1176183]

>>1175845
I have this. Surprisingly comfy, but my S2 doesn't fit there that good so I like using it more without mounting the device.

It's not perfect but taking price into consideration it's a lovely solution assuming you already own a phone that can emulate.

[Anonymous No.1176193]

>>1175845

Is there a way to mod this to fit on a 2012 nexus 7?

[Anonymous No.1176535]

>>1175845
is the holder adjustable? would it be able to hold an lg optimus g?

[Anonymous No.1176590]

>>1176535

It goes to at least 75mm

[Anonymous No.1176626]

>>1176183
Does you have a case on your s2? Did you try it directly on the phone? I have an s2 and am super interested.

[Anonymous No.1176727]

Wikipad. Plays DS, SNES, N64, PSX, Neo Geo, Nes, Genesis, GBA/GC games and android games. Also is a removeable tablet. 7" screen. Controllers feels like an xbox one.

[Anonymous No.1176768]

>>1176727
>Wikipad
worse than a 2012 nexus 7 for more money.

now if the controller were sold separately....

[Anonymous No.1176776]

Surprised to see so little JXD mention in this thread.
I hear their build quality is pretty damn good for a Chinese knockoff company.

[Anonymous No.1176821]

>>1176776
http://www.jxd.hk/products.asp?selectclassid=009006&clsid=3

And the drooling begins.

[Anonymous No.1176836]

>>1176768
same specs as 2012 nexus

[Anonymous No.1176873]

>>1176821
I'm thinking of selling my Vita and grabbing the S7800, it looks great. I don't have any Android devices either, and emulating right up to 64/DS/PSP with smooth speed sounds awesome.

[Anonymous No.1176878]

>>1176776
It's a well established fact that any console that comes out of China must be called a knock off. Other third party consoles are called "open source".

The problem is that all the best "open source" consoles in the last few years have come out of Asia while the rest of the world is playing catch up and knocking them off.

Pandora: game park knock off +keyboard
GCW: Dingoo knock off, even ships with Dingux

But everyone in the west will continue to buy their overpriced, behind the times, knock offs and smirk sanctimoniously and shout knock off when confronted with real cutting edge innovation.

[Anonymous No.1176887]

>>1176878
Well, I say "knock-off" because of the S5110b and S7300 which are blatantly supposed to resemble the Vita and WiiU Gamepad. Didn't intend to shit-talk them.

[Anonymous No.1176897]

>>1169149
>>1169095
>>1169063

I got a GCW Zero pretty recently. It's nice in every way... except the fucking down button sticks. Which is fine for RPGs, but if you want to roll out a haduken, you're just fucked.

Also, it has motion sensors. You can play descent like the GIF with them.

[Anonymous No.1177084]

>>1176836
Point is it`s way cheaper to buy a n7 with an ipego than that gimmick

[Anonymous No.1177153]

>>1176878
I agree, open source is a shitty buzzword these days.
As for the pandora, the performance isn't really top notch anymore, but as an emulation machine anything it can't emulate would require much more power.
Although the only arm recompiler for mupen came from the Pandora community, it runs way better on phones cheaper than the pandora.

Also, if I pretend to threaten legal action against OpenPandora UK, could I get a pandora?
I'm broke as fuck and don't actually have a lawyer, so I'm thinking I should create a fake site called " Shlomo Goldstein's Law Firm",
and say gibe pandora or i sue u! :^(
I've been waiting 4 years and don't give a damn about "upgrading".

[Anonymous No.1177212]

>>1176878
We need a JXD guide for the different models

[Anonymous No.1177385]

>>1176878
>>1177153
The reason JXD is called a knock off is because they make a new model every time a new piece of Sony or Nintendo hardware is released to look exactly like it. Started on the early models with the PSP, then bottom half of a 3DS on the s603, Vita like with dual analog on the s5110, and WiiU tablet with the s7300.

The reason why the GCW isn't a knock off of the Dingoo because it was made out of necessity. Dingux is not the stock operating system. It's an open source project. And the hardware, Dingoos, are no longer being manufactured. If the hardware dies then all the software would die with it. So the Dingux software community assisted a stateside retailer, who has Chinese manufacturing contacts, in designing a new updated piece of hardware compatible with the existing software library. It's a community project and a hobbyist's device, not an imitation.

Also, open source maybe a buzzword in the sense that it's a hot marketing term that most people who it appeals to don't truly understand but the phrase still has real meaning no matter how much it gets misused. I'm looking at you Ouya.

[Anonymous No.1177452]

>>1176626
No case. it just kind of presses the power button or volume button if I place it directly on the middle so I have to put it on the side which sometimes makes it press the L button instead. You can play around with it to get it right but it's a little annoying.

[Anonymous No.1177621]

>JXD
This handheld always makes a fun thread for someone who has 'xD' filtered.

[Anonymous No.1177719]

>>1177621
only if you're too retarded to understand regex properly.
Just put word boundaries before and after XD.
I'm actually not familar with JS regex syntax though, but it is likely \<XD\>, \bXD\b, or <XD>

[Anonymous No.1178121]

>>1177212
That would be a large guide. There are dozens of models and that's just what they're still selling today. And if we need a JXD guide we also need a Yinlips guide. JXD is a relative newcomer. They both have websites where you can get specs on current models.
http://www.jxd.hk/products.asp?selectclassid=009006&clsid=3
http://www.yinlips.com/en/


>>1177385
Your logic flawed in so many ways.

I saw a battlestation thread here a few days ago where people were confusing a Wii U controller for a Vita. Does that make the Wii U a "knock off"? At any given time nearly every: console looks like the others, phone looks like the others, tablet looks like the others, dvd player looks like the others, etc.
Also, thanks for pointing out that the Pandora is also a DSL knock off.

Deride Dingoo as a knock off
They go bust because people don't want knock offs
Make knock off of knock off
Not a knock off because it's made out of necessity so it's not an knock off it's "open source"
This is exactly the kind of "thinking" I'm talking about.

So what is the GCW stock operating system if not Dingux?

>It's a community project and a hobbyist's device, not an imitation.
If I wanted to discuss totally irrational opinions I'd be on /b/

I'd wait to see if the Ouya spin/hype pans out. The idea of an open console and exclusives is a contradiction and not the way the Android world is going. So far all their exclusive are shit. Also, like those handhelds they're far behind what others are doing. I've had an HD gaming android console for over a year and it cost me less than 1/2 what an Ouya does now. Also Ouya comes with a knock off GC controller so it is by definition an evil knock off that should be shunned.

[Anonymous No.1178126]

>>1177719
The irony is that those pissy enough to filter XD will not see this post.

[Anonymous No.1178291]

>>1178121
>They go bust because people don't want knock offs

You can't really fault the community that made the GCW zero for that, since it seems to be targeted at that same (devoted and active) community.

Also, the reason people didn't want Dingoos is probably because they were finicky, fragile hunks of crap that would stop working if you looked at them funny (if they worked at all).

[Anonymous No.1178331]

>>1178121
>people were confusing a Wii U controller for a Vita. Does that make the Wii U a "knock off"?
No it makes those people ignorant because the two aren't even close in design.
>Deride Dingoo as a knock off
When did I do that and what is the Dingoo a knock off of? The Game Boy Micro? Similar shape but wrong size and controls.
>They go bust because people don't want knock offs
Dingoo went bust because the later iterations kept getting worse and they refused to listen to feedback.
>Make knock off of knock off
First off it's not a knock off because the two don't look similar. I should have said that previously as the chief reason why. If the GCW was a knock off of anything it would be the first edition GBA, but it's not similar enough to be mistaken. Also, because the first edition GBA is no longer sold so it would be crazy to try and capitalize on the success of a product that's been out of production for 5 years.
>Not a knock off because it's made out of necessity so it's not an knock off
A knock off is an imitation of an existing product. If that product is no longer around and someone else picks up where they left off then they aren't imitating. That is what I meant by "made out of necessity."
>it's "open source"
What are you implying here? Still pushing the idea that open source is just a buzzword and nothing more?

(cont)

[Anonymous No.1178334]

>>1178331
Honestly I don't even care if a product is or isn't a knockoff. It's just a way to get people interested. Also, I like Sony's and Nintendo's designs and think it deserves imitation. But the term knock off has a meaning and throwing it around at everyone who makes handhelds won't change the fact that JXD has released a new model within the same year as every major handheld released. And that JXD model looks unmistakably similar to the newly released handheld. They have a history of indisputable knock offs, not that it's always bad thing.

(end)

[Anonymous No.1178381]

>>1178121
>So what is the GCW stock operating system if not Dingux?
Dingux wasn't made by Dingoo Digital. It was a community project to replace the stock OS on the a320. The Dingux community are the ones behind the creation of the Zero

[Anonymous No.1178489]

>>1169239
This.. They are relativly cheap and handle NES, SNES, GBA, PSP, PS1, and SEGA games relatively well. To all the nay-sayer saying psp sucks for SNES, learn t configure the settings or get a better emulator faggot.

[Anonymous No.1178523]

>>1178121
Out yinlips and JXD which one has the best quality? I kind of like the design of yinlip's handhelds better.

[Anonymous No.1178750]

>>1178291
I'm not faulting the GCW community. I'm faulting a few people for calling one machine a knock off when it's not and another "open source" when it's not.

>probably
Also this sort eagerness to assume something is shit without knowing anything about it. The thought process that something must be shit because it's made in China, at the same factory as the iphone you love.

>>1178331
OK, I understand now. You've been told that because something looks similar to something it's a knock off. That's not what it means and you shouldn't use the term in that way. The term has an actual meaning, that something is an illegal copy. Misusing the term diminishes the wrongness of actual knock offs and can give people the wrong perception of your views. Feel free to look it up if you don't believe me.

I use "open source" in quotes when the word is misused as a buzzword. GCW isn't open source. If it was you could download the schematics, designs circuit boards, etc just like you can with something like RepRap. Open Platform != Open Source. This is not bad. This is not something I have against GCW. This is just a statement of fact.

>>1178381
The question was "So what is the GCW stock operating system if not Dingux?" It's a rhetorical question of claim that Dingux isn't the stock OS for the GCW, which as a developer know to be patently false.

>>1178523
It's going to depend on the model. Some of the cheaper ones feel light and plasticky while the higher end ones are definitely a better build quality. The JXD 1000 was famous for falling apart but quality has gotten much better over time. The new high end ones feel rock solid. My G18 feels very solid and the newer models feel just as good but I don't own them so can't say how they hold up under what kind of use. My next purchase after a Vita will be a JXD. Main reasons being there are more to choose from and they seem to be the new big player in the market.

[Anonymous No.1178847]

>>1178750
>You've been told that because something looks similar to something it's a knock off. That's not what it means and you shouldn't use the term in that way. The term has an actual meaning, that something is an illegal copy.
So you're telling me that knock off doesn't mean imitation. It's means illegal copy. correct? Two questions. First, how do you make the distinction between copying and imitating? Second, from what definition are you pulling illegal from? Knock-offs or copies are only illegal to be sold if a copyright claim has been made. If that were part of the definition then something would only be classified as a "knock off" after legal dispute.
>I use "open source" in quotes when the word is misused as a buzzword. GCW isn't open source. If it was you could download the schematics, designs circuit boards, ect.
That's so wildly not what open source means that I'm starting to get the impression you're just messing with me. Open source means that the source code is accessible, modifiable, and unobscured. It's available on github.com/gcwnow/

You've got some weird ideas about these definitions, anon. I'll start citing sources that support what I believe to be correct and you can try and discredit them if you wish.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/knock--off
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/open--source

[Anonymous No.1179136]

I don't know why people are so obsessed with gaming handhelds and "emulation devices." Why not just use a laptop?

[Anonymous No.1179158]

>>1179136
>Why not just use a laptop?

The same reason you don't pack a 3-liter bottle of soda in your sack lunch. Laptops are big, yo.

[Anonymous No.1179491]

http://www.jxd.hk/products.asp?id=639&selectclassid=009006

Oh God, I would import this right now.

[Anonymous No.1179658]

>>1179491
>Household Machine

[Anonymous No.1179781]

>>1178750
>Also this sort eagerness to assume something is shit without knowing anything about it.

In my defense, I've dealt with Dingoos. While hunk of crap was a bit extreme, they were very, very fragile and build quality is all over the place.

Also, I hate iPhones. They're heavy, fragile and extremely overpriced. I don't think Dingoos were shoddy because they were made in China, I think they were shoddy because they were often quite poorly constructed and the quality control was simply terrible.

Also, fun fact about the Dingoo: the AC adapter included for its charger was so poorly constructed that it would actually destroy your battery.

[Anonymous No.1179801]

>>1168954
>I'd like to get an emulation device

Galaxy Note 3.

- Dat screen quality
- Dat big screen
- Dat CPU
- Dat RAM
- Plays any emulatable system (MAME, retroarch, PSP, Nintendo DS) except for Dreamcast (maybe it does), PS2 and Gamecube/Wii.

I have a Galaxy Note 1 (ebay for $200) and I love it myself, although CPU could be better.

[Anonymous No.1179805]

Okay, so PSP is obviously out since the thing is just too old to do much with nowadays. My console solution is a softmodded Wii while I have to settle for my laptop for portable emulation but damn that thing is huge! Not exactly convenient when you have to lug it around in a bag and not your pocket. Had an EZ 3in1 for GBA and NES games but well, mine took a massive shit today and I don't feel like soldering in a third battery after the one before it only lasted a few weeks. So what's next? I'll probably get a gamepad for my old phone because pure touchscreen controls are pure shit and see if that works. Don't see why it shouldn't.

[Anonymous No.1179829]

>>1179801
I have the Galaxy Note 2. It does emulation pretty well, I only wish it could do N64 and PS1 without an incredibly low framerate.

[Anonymous No.1179832]

>>1179801
only do this if you really like playing with a digital controller, otherwise, don't even bother

i have one myslef and i hate it so much that i only use it for music. i'm gonna sell it.

[Anonymous No.1179838]

>>1179829
Try not using Retroarch. It's a good and convenient emulator, but they use old versions for everything, and the builds are horribly unoptimized.

[Anonymous No.1180318]

>>1179838
>but they use old versions for everything

Most of the libretro emulator cores are bleeding edge, though

https://github.com/libretro/

[ipega questions !btr76hqMa6 No.1180380]

>>1175845

AMA

[Anonymous No.1180585]

>>1178847
I'm telling you the actual definition. If you and other kids want to use the term in the wrong context prepare to be called on your BS
http://definitions.uslegal.com/k/knock-off/

No impressions necessary. It's clear you have no idea what open source means and have never encountered a real open source hardware project.
protip: firmware/os/games aren't hardware. GCW is.

>>1179158
Implying he doesn't pack a 3 litre bottle of soda in his lunch sack

>>1179491
Tried it. Looks nice. Would buy it but promised my kid we'd get a Vita first. There will be a better model in a few months anyway. Despite the butthurt delusion that they only release a "knock off" when Sony/Nintendo release a new handheld.

>>1179781
>dealt with
Weasel words. What does that mean? Herd about its on the intarwebz? My Dingoo and it's charger are still working fine. You do realise there were actual knock offs (as in the real definition of the word) of the Dingoo and you might have been duped into thinking one of those was the real thing?

[Anonymous No.1180634]

>>1180585
Ignore this idiot. He's a raging fanboy.