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Which is better?

>> No.1168451

The original for game preservation.
The PSONE for aesthetics.

>> No.1168452

PSX mini came packaged with better controllers IIRC. In fact, they were probably the best ones Sony ever made.

>> No.1168454

>The original for game preservation.
Unless the psone is unmoddable I don't see how it could break any more often than the originals. They had some build quality problems.
Aesthetically, the old one looks better.

>> No.1168453
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1168453

Which is better?

>> No.1168457
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1168457

Which is better?

>> No.1168456

>>1168449
The first one if it has the parallel port.

>> No.1168471

>>1168457
The HD graphics model 1.

>>1168453
The SNES mini

>>1168449
SCPH-750x

>> No.1168475

>>1168471
Why?

>> No.1168492

>>1168457
First genesis had way better sound. Model 2 is muted/filtered in comparison. Model 3 goes the other way and it's sound is extra high. CDX is similar to Model 1.

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn2-K8TkXCs

While yes it's youtube quality, it's still good enough to hear the difference.

Though someone mentioned that model 2's have different revisions that sound different as well. So, you can look into that if you want or avoid them.

>> No.1168504

>>1168471
Genesis model 1 HD graphics has better sound.

SNES mini is better looking, lacks eject button and apparently looks better through RGB.

SCPH-750x PSX is the last model before they took out the expansion ports.

If you want better sound though, get a 5000 series as they still have the same audio chip as the original audiophile PS1.

>> No.1168515

I like the PSONE better just because it's a mite bit smaller. Me and my brother could easily pack it in one of our bags in a matter of a minute when we went on vacation.

>> No.1168556
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>>1168449
The Saturn.

>> No.1168573

>>1168449
An SCPH-100x with a PSone laser (-BAM).

>> No.1168598

>>1168504
>SNES mini is better looking
No it isn't. It looks like a clone.

>> No.1168607

>>1168598
agreed

Super Famicom is god tier in aesthetics, not those pig disgusting usafag versions

>> No.1168608

>>1168607
At least you can stack the US cartridges.

>> No.1168613

>>1168449
A PS2 running PS1 games with no image processing and component outs. Between those two, a fat one with an expansion port

>>1168453
The fat one unless the mini has had its video outs rebuilt, or hands down if the fat one is a 1chip

>>1168457
Model1. No exceptions.

>> No.1168623

>>1168613
The mini has the best video output, hands down.

>> No.1168630

>>1168449
The original looks nicer in my opinion.

>>1168453
I like the mini, but I'm gonna have to say the original simply because of nostalgia.

>>1168457
The HD Model 1 has much better sound, and combined with the Model 1 Sega CD, it's a beast.

>>1168556
The Saturn ran circles around the PS1 with 2D graphics and sound.

>> No.1168637

>>1168630
>The Saturn ran circles around the PS1 with 2D graphics and sound.
The PC-FX had better video than either of them.

>> No.1168638

>>1168637
Never had the pleasure of owning one. My cousin had a PC Engine.

>> No.1168640

>>1168623
No. An unmodified mini doesn't even put out SVideo, let alone RGB. A 1Chip SNES is equal to a mini and requires no modification.

>> No.1168643

>>1168640
A normal SNES, unmodified, doesn't output RGB either.

>> No.1168646

>>1168643
Yes it does. Maybe the US ones don't but mine is hooked up through RGB, and looks amazing.

>> No.1168650

>>1168646
I tried using RGB on mine, and it work for a few seconds, then the screen went darker and darker until it was completely black.

>> No.1168654

>>1168643
Yes it does. Also, you need to learn the difference between a 1chip and other fat SNES models.

>> No.1168656

>>1168650
Just looked it up. ALL original model SNES have RGB.
I recognize the problem you have though, crappy cable. It's missing some components.
Get a better cable.

>> No.1168659

>>1168656
No, FUCK YOU.

>> No.1168662

>>1168659
>>>/v/

>> No.1168667

>>1168656
To add, if you have some soldering skills you can fix this yourself. Just solder some 220µF elco's between the RGB lines.

>> No.1168676

>>1168654
How do you know if it's a 1chip?

>> No.1168680

>>1168676
http://retrorgb.com/1chipsnes.html
Model numbers starting with 'UN3'. If it doesn't, open it up and check the motherboard.
Note, when opening up ANY snes, turn the power button ON for a few seconds (unplugged) so it bleeds any remaining power, otherwise you can easily blow a fuse.

>> No.1168690

>>1168680
>Note, when opening up ANY snes, turn the power button ON for a few seconds (unplugged) so it bleeds any remaining power, otherwise you can easily blow a fuse.
That's a good piece of advice for taking apart any electronic.

>> No.1168706

>>1168676
It's actually as simple as looking for ones with EJECT molded into the button instead of stamped on with paint. You can make absolutely sure by looking inside the expansion port, on 1chip motherboards you'll see part of a silver ring through the gap. On non 1chips you'll see "the three dots of doom"

>> No.1168708

>>1168690
Yeah, but it's really needed with the SNES. Those fuses blow up really really easy.

>> No.1171580

I had a lot of heating issues with the PSONE, so i'll say the original model is better.

>> No.1172005

Whatever doesn't overheat. I have an original PS and that sucker would get HOT, which ended up affecting games.

>> No.1172064

>>1168454
No problem modding the psone but it was pretty poorly constructed compared to the original

>>1168607
The Super Famicom looks exactly like my Super Nintnedo (pal)

>> No.1172087
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1172087

The best would probably be the 1xxx series, since it had the best audio quality and all the jacks and whatnot, with the CD mechanism replaced with a newer model one.

That way you get the quality audio without the CD reading issues.

Barring that, the 75xx series still has the parallel port and has the Sound Scope feature for the music player.

>> No.1172105

>>1168449
Any one made after 1998.

>> No.1172110

>>1172087
I still think that the whole "original Playstations had hi-fi audio quality" thing is bullshit.

Yes, I know of the rumours that they included higher quality DACs. But did anyone actually open them up and catalogue what parts they used?

About the only visible difference is that the original models have RCA outs, but that doesn't make much difference as long as you can find properly shielded cables for the multi av out.

>> No.1172120

>>1172110
Countless "audiophiles" have opened them up and dissected them.

While they arent quite as good as some TOTL players, they are much better than most.

It is a common mod to bypass the video/sound circuit, add an external power supply and replace the capacitors with high quality ones, this actually does make them sound as good as high end players.

>> No.1172140

>>1172120
Give me a link with a IC breakdown please.

>> No.1172335

>>1172110
The deal was, Sony didn't have time to engineer a whole new DAC, so they just designed the board to use some they already had shitloads of. Which were fucking GREAT. In the early 2000s, people were selling the chips (scavenged from Playstations) on eBay for about $25-$30.

>> No.1172351

Considering I don't need GameShark support, I prefer the PSOne. It's mostly for aesthetics and the convenience of having the console in a smaller size. This is strictly my opinion, but I think the PSOne is the best looking console ever made. I wish the PS2 or even the PS3 were more along the same design. Of course, it may be difficult to fit all that hardware into such a small housing.

As for the SNES, I'd prefer the Mini. Similar reasons as above. It's also worth mentioning that the original SNES models (or at least some of them) lacked UV protective coating, so they started to discolor very quickly. Even my classic NES retained its natural color longer than my SNES.

>> No.1172365

SNES mini looks better than the US SNES, but I prefer the PAL/SFC look over both.

>> No.1172503

>>1172087
Part of the problem is that in the 1xxx series the CD drive is too close to the hot power supply found on those models, which isn't good for its life expectancy. Unless you keep replacing the CD mechanism of course.

>> No.1172603

>>1168457
high definition graphics, but the last batch of model 2's were apparently breddy gud.

>> No.1172628

>>1172603
Yeah if you can get a model 2 produced in 94 they are real nice.

>> No.1172636
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Little known fact, but every PS3 model can play PS1 games just fine.

I usually use that since my PS1 memory cards are completely packed, with my PS2 as a backup. I like the controllers more too, the PS1 controllers were so stiff.

I haven't plugged in my actual PS1 in years.

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1172647

>>1168680
>Model numbers starting with 'UN3'.
mine starts with UN60 and its a SNS-CPU-1CHIP-02 don't know the significance of the -02 at the end but theres -01, -02, and -03. It has Eject molded on to the eject button, and the ABS plastic does not show any signs of yellowing.

I've also got a PAL SNES but that's probably not a 1chip. Made in Germany :P

>> No.1172649

>>1172636
Welcome to >>/vr/.
I think you mean to be in >>/v/

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>>1168453

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>>1172649
We talk about similar things like Wii and PSP emulation all the time, friend.

>> No.1172668

>>1172647
What's the model number for your PAL system?

>> No.1172672

>>1172668
UP something or other.

>> No.1172710

>>1172668
>>1172672

UP14320806

so probably has a SNSP-CPU-02

>> No.1175514

>>1168515
> Me and my brother could easily pack it in one of our bags in a matter of a minute when we went on vacation.

You do know to use either one you would have, one or two controllers, one or two gamepads, one A/V cable, a power cord and the system.
The original system doesn't come apart, you don't fold it, you do anything with it but stick it somewhere. It takes exactly the same amount of time to put one object that's a bit larger down than it does to put a different smaller object down. A quarter and a penny take the same exact time to put on a table. It's not a tent it's a solid object, you put it in your bag then you're done.

>> No.1176031

>>1175514
Maybe it took the both of them just to lift the psone and the bits into a bag and they couldn't lift the PS because it was too heavy?

>> No.1177883

>>1172636

Wait... every ps3 can play ps1 games? I've never heard that... Now I want to try it.