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What's a good controller to use for playing old console games on the PC?

>> No.1158764
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1158764

>>1158760

>> No.1158765

It depends on the game, there is no optimal solution for everything.
It's best to keep some variety of controllers and try out which one suits the specific purpose the best.

>> No.1158773

I use PS2 controllers with a USB adapter.

>> No.1158776
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1158776

>>1158760
Controllers like these.

>> No.1158784
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>>1158764

>> No.1158782

Depends on what you're playing and what you're playing on.

I've been trying to find a decent bluetooth controller that can work on my tablet and my laptop, since when I'm home I plug my laptop into my tv and play like that, while when i'm on the go I use my tablet since it's far more likely to be alive than my laptop. It basically never dies.

Closest I've gotten to that so far is a Wii U Pro Controller, but it's far from perfect. Maybe I should've gotten that Pro Wii U Controller I heard so much about instead.

>> No.1158785

I just use a Xbox 360 wired controller

>> No.1158789

>>1158760
I use a usb NES controller for anything that allows normal gameplay with it.
I use a ps3 controller for nearly everything ese

>> No.1158790

>>1158785
make sure you get a knock-off one with a decent d pad

>> No.1158796

I use the dualshock 3. Haven't come across a problem yet though it's a little difficult to get used to the C-buttons of the 64 mapped to the right stick.

>> No.1158821

>>1158760

http://emulation-general.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Controllers

>> No.1159783

>>1158785
>>1158790
Xbox 360 wired here too. I don't use the d-pad, for me it's impossible to use for anything other than menu navigation.

I just map the digital controls to the left analog. Not the best solution but it's surely better than that dpad.

>> No.1160515

>>1159783
I've literally never had a problem using the 360 analog stick.

I even play fighting games with it.

>> No.1160696

>>1160695

Because there are better options out there.

Like Dual Shock 3.

>> No.1160695

>>1159783
Why is everyone so whiny about the X360 D-pad?

I know it's not great, it's not even a real D.pad but it's not bad at all.

>> No.1160818

>>1160696

that's an opinion, I prefer the 360 over the dual shock anyday.

>> No.1160834

>>1160695

Because there are better options for cheaper.
It's absurd to opt for the worst choice and pay more for it.

I'll admit there's also a slight degree of hate transmission, where /vr/ project all its hate for the Xbox 360 to everything 360, so the controller somehow(which is a great controller sans the battery placement and DPAD) is also guilty of ruining games for them.

>> No.1160843
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I personnaly use the Classic Controller Pro.

Best D-pad!

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>>1158760

>> No.1160849

Use the right damn controller for the game you're playing. You're cheaping out on so much investment in consoles and real games by emulating is it too damn much for you to get a USB adapter and a real controller?

And stop fucking stretching games out to 16:9 while you're at it! Jesus that's the least you could do!

>> No.1160859

>>1158760
Nice filter. I use an adapter for Wii classic controller, I have a NES to usb adapter on the way will switch to that once it arrives.

>> No.1160887

>>1160849
why does how people play bother you so much?

>> No.1160925

>>1160849
Why do people use the Genesis controller for Ataris and the like?
Why do people use third party and non-standard first party controllers in general?

>> No.1160941

>>1158760
Recently I've been using my DS3, but I plan on getting original USB controllers.

Also, has anyone else had problems emulating Parappa The Rapper? I think my rom is fucking up where every time the onion guy says a command, I'm supposed to press the button then instead of when Parappa repeats it. I think this because I can hit them perfectly, but it doesn't count and when I'm at AWFUL, the next time he starts to say something, it automatically fails before Parappa can repeat it like I was supposed to press the button then. Or am I supposed to do that anyways? I've never played this.

>> No.1160965

>>1160941
Nevermind. I think it's input lag or something. I'm going to try and look around for some way to fix this.

>> No.1160981
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I bought this, was pretty cheap off of ebay and even tho it was cheap and seems cheap, it is a really good controller.

>> No.1160993

>>1158821
This

Though ask is there a big difference in the Dualshock 2 and Dualshock 3 dpad?

I don't have a DS3, but I actually like the logitech dpad on the 310 better than my DS2.

>> No.1161034

google raphnet

Buy an adapter for a real controller

They have no lag

>> No.1161042

>>1158760
fc30 gamepad. 4 buttons Famicom style design with shoulder buttons for SNES. Bluetooth and Wii compatible with shoulder buttons emulating the gyro on the Wii. $35 - $50 from China.

>> No.1161047

>>1160925
because the Atari and Genesis consoles use the same game port.

>> No.1161106

>>1158760
Totally depends on the game. A fighting stick would be the best for playing fighting games and useless for playing N64 games that use the analog stick.

The best option is probably get an adapter that converts original controllers to USB so you can play with the original controls or third party versions if you find those better.

>> No.1161119

>>1160834
>>1160695
>>1159783

In my personal experience the 360 dpad on the older models isnt precise enough for classic nes games. I often get incorrect presses like tring to crouch makes me move left/right.

Using the analog is the best solution for this but of you do I recommend using some type of kemap software to adjust the diagonal sensitivity (like xpadder) otherwise you will be crawling all over the place

>> No.1161232

Mechanical Keyboard

>> No.1161243

Is there any difference in the DS2 and DS3 dpad?

>> No.1163020

>>1158760
ps3, its the way to go. wireless, so you can sit comfortably

>> No.1164678

I never understood people who claim keyboards are terrible for platformers. Especially when the only actions other than moving the character are jumping and run.

>> No.1164695

>>1164678
Especially if when*

>> No.1164710

>>1164695
That's not even correct

>> No.1165168

>>1164678
Because they are bad, you may have learned to compensate for it like driving a car with poor alignment.

Its about smoothness of motion and transition. Its a lot easier, faster, and more natural to just rock my thumb from one direction to another then use three fingers making separate button bushes.

Its not impossible to use one, but its definitely not as good.

>> No.1165180

>>1165168
You can use your thumb to control the cursors if you really wanted to.

>> No.1165206

>>1165180
And create uneven presses on the keys, they aren't really meant to roll like that.

>> No.1165240

too cheap to buy new, still using my first gen PS3 controller with great success

>> No.1165243
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The Xbox 360 controller's d-pad is terrible if you need to use more than two directions on it, and using an analogue stick for digital input is bad and you should feel bad.

I've been using PS1 controllers (original and Dual Shock) with a USB adaptor for years.

I only noticed recently that the d-pad on one has actually cracked on the inside - the left button now moves independently from the rest of the pad. It still works but feels weird.

I also had to remove the vibration motors from one of them as the mounts had broken and they were banging off the inside of the controller casing. JAPAN QUALITY.

>> No.1165249
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1165249

I use this for almost everything.

>> No.1165259

>>1165243
Analog as digital works well on a select few things. For example, Zombies Ate my Neighbors and The Ooze both feel more natural when you use an analog stick.

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>>1160925
I can't, for the life of me, imagine why people use third party controllers. I assume they're either poor or stupid, possibly both.

Even programmable controllers aren't worth dealing with. The only exception is when there's a peripheral that more closely approximates the arcade controls for a particular game - of course then you're still trying to play as the developers intended.

>> No.1165707

>>1165278
Its rare but every now and then a third party periph does trump its first party counterpart.

>> No.1165721

>>1165707
Name one that isn't the Atari 5200

>> No.1165735

>>1165721
>Name one that isn't a perfectly valid answer.
Well the N64 not designed for aliens was pretty good. Also iirc there were a couple out there that had better joysticks too since N64 had the cheapest stick I've ever seen.

There was a one handed controller I think for PS1 that was pretty good, sounds stupid but it was great for RPGs...and friends who had broken their arm.

Some awesome DDR pads made by third party that were arcade quality.

I could pull a few more out of my ass off hand, but it starts going out of retro at that point.

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>> No.1165747

>>1165249
MY FUCKIN NIGGA
its lightweight so I keep it in my laptop bag for when I am stuck waiting on someone (which is often)

>> No.1165756

>>1165249
I have that exact controller with a different company brand. Some Chinese manufacturer I've never heard of before and can't remember right now. Doesn't seem to work for anything past Windows XP.

>> No.1165762

>>1158760
Get a USB SNES controller for NES/SNES and Genesis.

>> No.1165767

PS2 for most. Saturn pad for a few exceptions. Arcade stick for space shooters and select fighters.

>> No.1165774

>>1165737
why get this when you could just get a PS2/3/4 controller?

>> No.1166031

>>1165774
I like it better than PS2 myself, its little more rounded and I like the dpad. Also its cheap and lazy for going between directinput and xinput.

>>1165756
Its probably using direct input, you need to convert to xinput for later shit.

>> No.1168313

>>1160843
I use a regular Classic Controller. That d-pad indeed.

>> No.1168318

>>1165259
The best is when the stick has notches in 8 directions for those games.

>> No.1168369

Before I had a PS3, I just used my keyboard, cause I never bought a controller for PC.

Since getting a PS3, I use my Dualshock 3 with Xinput Wrapper, and love it.

I kinda want a USB Saturn controller, though. Just to have one.

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>>1165721
As a kid, I had this for N64. It was actually pretty decent, from what I remember.

>> No.1168376

>>1168372

I never owned this pad, but I liked it because it made the C-buttons "real" buttons.

Which is nice considering how many N64 games used them for gameplay mechanics besides the camera.

>> No.1168383

>>1168376
Never really noticed it before, but the layout is like Saturn/6-button Genesis. A, C-Down, and C-Right are A, B, and C. And B, C-Left, and C-Up, are X, Y, and Z.

>> No.1168417

>>1168372
That stick looks like a Gamecube's stick.

>> No.1168420

>>1168372
God that looks so fucking weird. Why not just make the handles even? Thats gotta fuck with your hands.

>> No.1168428

>>1165774
Because it's better.

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>>1168417
There's this, too. Never used it, but apparently it's good. Looks like a cross between N64, Dreamcast, and Gamecube, but with the most retarded d-pad placement of all-time.

>>1168420
It didn't. I preferred using that controller over my first party controllers. Though the handles weren't even, it still felt natural.

>> No.1168721

>>1160695
Because it's a terrible D-Pad with terrible placement.
The controller itself is hefty as fuck and only worth using if you're playing nothing but shooters all day.

>> No.1168739

I bought a GameCube adapter USB that let's you use a gamecube controller to play all of your emulated games. I use it for net play smash bros and other n64 games so it's very convenient

>> No.1168778

>>1168436
I'm not usually one to judge, but I doubt I could play that controller. The D-pad ruins it for me. How can it be in the center?!

>> No.1168795

>>1165735
The Asciipad and SuperPad for the snes. I feel theyre both better than the first party SNES controllet.

>> No.1168814

>>1168778
>using D-pad for N64 games

>> No.1168828

>>1168814
>what is Mischief Makers
>what is Kirby 64

>> No.1168839

>>1168420
>>1168436

That controller DID give me hand cramps if I used it to play for, like, several hours in a row. I can forever associate Winback and Banjo Kazooie with a certain muscle pain in my palm.

As for the thread, I use a PSOne controller, which has miraculously still held up from the day the system came out. And I have a pretty nice adapter my buddy brought me as a gift from Japan, never noticed any lag with the input.

>> No.1168842

>>1160695
>it's not bad at all
Yeah. Yeah it fucking is.

>> No.1168845

>>1168839
Well, back then, I was like 7, so my hands were smaller.

>> No.1170769

I use an x360